Future Ship Programs of the Royal Danish Navy

Interview with Rear Admiral Torben Mikkelsen, Head of the Navy Program Office, Defence Command Denmark, during the DALO Industry Days 2023.
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RADM Mikkelsen comments:
- The new Danish patrol vessels program
- Cooperation with NATO partners in the Baltic
- Other upcoming ship programs
- Impact of the current security environment on the Danish Navy programs
- Cooperation with non Danish industry for the programs
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[@bits2646]

I like the forward way of thinking of Danish navy, impressive strenght of navy already for such a small nation

[@captivatethem]

The first vessel looks like the new Canadian Offshore Arctic Patrol Ship, but with more teeth and a possible ASW role. Fascinating modular mission bay concepts.

[@nobodyjustme7481]

Norwegian patrol ship also. That's a modern hull design for patrol vessels operates in the icy waters.

[@captivatethem]

@@nobodyjustme7481 you're absolutely right, the Canadian ship was a modified Norwegian design. Regarding their future Baltic needs, the Danes would look good with the FREM if they could build it locally. Korean offerings are also very interesting.

[@nobodyjustme7481]

​@@captivatethemFREMM is the best western frigate, no doubt about that. That's why US navy and Indonesian navy ordered FREMM. But Korean, um.. their current submarines is disappointing, their current LHD Dokdo class also disappointing, they still struggling with corruption inside their government. So I'm not really sure about their future frigates or corvettes. I would only recommend from Japanese. Like Mogami class frigate. Zero defect, advance tech, but literally half price than FREMM. Not to mention they have zero defect on their Izumo Class destroyer. Japanese now is a mad max country after US allows them to expand their military power. They even able to built 5th gen fighter jet, and now they are developing 6th gen fighter jet with the US.

[@eanerickson8915]

Minus the drunks and homosexuals.

[@henrikerdland578]

​@@captivatethemWhy should Denmark go with the FREMM class, when Denmark already operates the Iver Huitfeldt class. FREMM and Iver Huitfeldt are very similar.

[@michaelmulligan0]

Ireland really needs to work with Denmark

[@kimkristensen2816]

The new multirole corvette is replacing the Diana class (launched 2006-2007). 6 ships are planed but only 5 billion dkk is in the total budget for now. 7.5 billion is more realistic. 4 Thetis class arctic corvettes (launched 1989-1991) are long overdue for replacement, but this may be pushed another 10 years. Likely it will be with a more capable replacement in a fregat size such as the 4 Finnish Pohjanmaa class which cost about 10 billion total. 2 Absalon class ASW fregates (launched 2004) will likely be about the same size as now, but with updated weapon/sensor technology and therefore much more expensive. 3 Iver Heuitfeld class airdefence fregats (launched 2010) is equiped with a 32 cell VLS. Expect the same or more in its replacement and perhabs to carry even superzonic missiles. 32 smaller vessels of marinehjemmeværnet (launched 1992/2003-2011) are also to be replaced perhabs with Baltic Workboats patrol class type vessels. That would total about 1 billion dkk. Supposely there is 40 billion dkk in the budget for the listed vessels. There seems to be a political will to reintroduce submarines in the Danish navy again. 3 type 212CD or A-26 would cost upwards 21 billion dkk with likely launch in 2036-2038.

[@henrikchristensen8458]

Perhaps we should look at Damen Shipyards, the got a lot of good designs, and many proven designs, and they like to produce in other countries.

[@jankeesvanderwal8546]

Agree fully, perfect type of ship for their knowledge and experience.

[@stedymyheart217]

Mabuhay from the Philippines... 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭 #1

[@chandrachurniyogi8394]

it's time for the compromised Scandinavian navies to come together join forces & function as one . . . in ancient times Viking raiders always teamed up with other Viking raiders & fought together against the enemy . . .

[@Yuki_Ika7]

Their Air Forces are already doing this, and when Sweden joins NATO their Navies will in a way become one alliance

[@BS-vm5bt]

Better with a EU army since there is is the resources of a superpower there. It is just pointless waste of money otherwise.

[@jesperlykkeberg7438]

The Royal Danish Navy has nine ocean going frigates. The Swedes have none. It will be a while before the Swedes can cruise with the big boys.

[@heuhen]

Ehhh we are doing that already....

[@bjorn2625]

@@jesperlykkeberg7438 Our Swedish brothers and sisters have had a very different mission for the last 50 years. They've traditionally not joined NATO/US-led operations out in the wider world, but have focused on defending their homeland and possibly completely on their own. Their navy has been perfectly adapted to their task. One could ask if the Danish navy has managed the same, given the scramble to build more boats for the Baltic. That said, I utterly agree that the Scandinavian region should integrate their armed forces, now that all are (or will be) in NATO ... in the same way we are seeing France, Germany and the Benelux region does.

[@brisser68]

i love the danish ships we allready have. plz keep them many years. even if we got new ships the old can still funktion some were in the arctic and baltic regions.. :-)

[@AugmentedGravity]

Fantastic interview.

[@andreasbruckner8109]

Are these ships and also other ships of Danish Royal Navy out of non-magnetic steel? Others are for minehunting operations for example..

[@ioanbota9397]

I like it they are powerful

[@waynesworldofsci-tech]

Ah, the enemy admiral in the Island Liquor Bottle War.

[@IsraelMilitaryChannel]

Impressive ships

[@EricPham-gr8pg]

I had techniques to protect ship , building and personal from artillery or missile or airplane or even uav

[@cuba3433]

Good Job U K 🇬🇧 👍 !!. I love you ❤ !. Rusia no god ??.. jajaja..

[@honfmeilingfleet957]

another new ship that could be added in Modern Warships

[@jim.pearsall]

👏🏻👍🏻🇩🇰

[@kwinter2541]

#Canada #Denmark #Scandinavia #Terra

[@Ade-mu4zn]

🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩👌👍💪🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩 1000D

[@redblueyankee8343]

Chimpanzee flag😂

[@SWOBIZ]

The US Navy has some littoral combat ships they could sell you...

[@heinedenmark]

From what I about ship design.. This seems to be a quite slow vessel. And that doesn't make much sense, if it's supposed to intercept other military vessels 🤷‍♂️

[@heuhen]

It's not designed for that role at all....

[@heinedenmark]

@@heuhen Well . that's what we need 🤷 Anders Puck Nielsen believe we should have stealth corvettes like Sweden. And several others in the Navy have criticized this design.

[@MrBandholm]

@@heinedenmark These ships are for SAR (search and rescue), policing the national waters, as well as helping with a number of other secondary roles in the maritime enviroment. They are not warships in the classic sense (as of the current design specifications). These ships are in the line of the older cutters. Slow ships that does important jobs in the civilian aspect of the navy. What Anders has talked about, is the re-introduction of a small warship, the Swedish corvettes are simple examples, but these will fulfill an entirely different role. It is not an "one or the other" concept, but an actual addition to the navy. I know this, because I have been involved with Anders, writing about the needs for one of his projects on the defence academy.

[@heinedenmark]

@@MrBandholm So.. what are the weapons for?

[@MrBandholm]

@@heinedenmark police duty. And second line work, in case of war. These are perhaps better understod, if you call them "coast guard ships"

[@rodneypantony3551]

There was an ex KGB artificial intelligence officer working for BlackBerry, 2008, and then Maluuba. Both apparently fired him. Could NOT do what he said he could. Query a pattern of Putin's artificial intelligence people overstating their capabilities. Ask John Chen for the guy's name and have a chat.

[@bjarkehansen4911]

TARD

[@giod6266]

To build a ship takes 10 years and more in the West, bureaucracy and so on.. But in China, it takes like a year to build a ship!

[@agffans5725]

As we all know by personal experience, then Chinese products lack in quality and easily breaks down, exactly due to cutting corners and the lack time and effort spend.

[@giod6266]

@@agffans5725 Not anymore, it was as you say before yes. And not when it comes to military production. AND, there are a lot of sources saying that Chinese military ships are of same qualityl as US and in some cases better! It is because US has stopped mass production/building ships for years ago! US navy is old, very old, I mean most of the ships US have are old. Yes, some ships are upgraded in some cases and new carriers like Gerald Ford are build, but it is still in testing phase it so advanced. Military experts agree on that today's Chinese navy has both quality and quantity.

[@agffans5725]

@@giod6266 .. Wrong.. I personally stay clear of anything Chinese, because it's crap to be honest and I can afford not to buy it, so this is the perception of China in all of Western Europe, also regarding their military.

[@heuhen]

It doesn't take 10 years to build, but the work and designing before building a ship take time, the ship it self take around 1-2 years to build and up to 1 year of testing.

[@ThePRCommander]

I dont like the design.

[@fightforaglobalfirstamendm5617]

No VLS, no guns. It’s not a warship.

[@heinedenmark]

From what I can see, it has a 127mm MK4 cannon and two 35mm Millennium guns 🤷‍♂️

[@fightforaglobalfirstamendm5617]

@@heinedenmark 127mm is good, US and Italian glide and guided round are coming on line so that is good but I don’t understand why just one turret and just a single gun in the turret. You don’t need any more than 4 guns in two twin turrets, one extreme forward and one extreme aft. With just one turret and single gun, the ship is not able to defend itself from air attack and swarm attacks by missile boats and loitering munitions. This is not a warship. The Chinese coast guard and fishing fleets have more weapons systems aboard than these ships will. They’re herbivores.

[@heinedenmark]

@@fightforaglobalfirstamendm5617 The Millennium Guns are CIWS that fire advanced 35mm AHEAD ammunition. Look it up.

[@harveyblanquisco6738]

​@@heinedenmark its a Oto Melara 76mm Super Rapid

[@heinedenmark]

​@@harveyblanquisco6738You might be right. Makes more sense in a defensive role, which is what these are for.

[@PlasmodiumV]

They are ruining marine life with those toxic wind turbines.

[@henrikerdland578]

toxic?!

[@davidprins5504]

next pipeline they blow up will be a better job then the last time