This "mistake" was PLANNED

[@LTRX_]

seeing her without the headpiece was so weird but maybe it was just because we've never seen that as often as with it on.

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

yeah it's like seeing someone who always wears, say, a chain with a cross around their neck (or some such other item of jewelry that one might wear 24/7 apart from bathing or maybe sleeping) without that item of jewelry. They're gonna look a bit... naked isn't the right word, but yeah. 😅

[@Pinkielover]

Wasn't weird at all ,, it was expected

[@funtastic1297]

Not wierd about it happening but it looked wierd

[@Quirderph]

I admit, I kinda forget that her akul teeth headdress from The Clone Wars isn't actually part of her. (And they were likely included in her design in the first place *because* she would look less weird that way.)

[@thimovijfschaft3271]

It made me feel uncomfortable

[@ZrodyApo]

She crossed her arms plenty of times when she was young and I tend to believe it's something she picked up from Anakin (although unintentionally) because he was often doing it when talking to her

[@jackhodgson]

Agreed. The arms crossed thing has been an Ahsoka posture from the very beginning.

[@DRABPT]

She picked it up from Anakin, who picked it up from Kenobi, who picked it up from Qui-Gon Jinn

[@ZrodyApo]

@@DRABPT it's like poetry, they rhyme

[@cyka7705]

@@DRABPT like anakin said. She's his legacy

[@cosmicgrub360]

@@DRABPTdid he pick it up from dooku?

[@legothoron1]

Faloni knows how to write Ahsoka, like in the beginning he intentionally wrote Ahsoka to be a bit annoying but stripped all that away over the course of the first few seasons of the Clone Wars, this is no different

[@hellfish2309]

Ha no… Dave wrote her one way, took the backlash, then pivoted; now make no mistake - he had seasons upon seasons of cable tv episodes to not only put such a character through interesting arcs but recontextualize the child introduced to the audience Asserting Dave knew his plans for Ahsoka from like day 1 of the tv show is like arguing George knew Luke and Leia would be siblings #incest

[@OracleBF2]

​@@hellfish2309FR

[@MahiMahi-yu5jo]

​@@hellfish2309 it's called character development. Crucial for story telling and planned from the beginning. There was no pivot from backlash, this was planned.

[@hellfish2309]

@@MahiMahi-yu5joactually no you’re mistaken, it wasn’t and what’s more, good character development doesn’t have to be planned and buttoned up right at conception; yeah there are plenty of poor characterizations who are just vague concepts when the story starts, but plenty of good ones too, which would include Ahsoka No but you’re right - incest in Luke’s character development was planned from the jump😉😉

[@darthjesus7079]

No, out of those 2, only Ahsoka's character development was planned. @@hellfish2309

[@JonathanFManiaci]

The 'problem' lies in the comparison with Ahsoka from Rebels, at that time she is also more mature but there she had that spirit of wisdom and tranquility without the bitterness and seriousness that Rosario has portrayed at times. Despite everything, they are just details and I love the series

[@ThisIsWhereTheFunBegins8588]

Exactly what I was thinking of

[@lukeari9890]

That was before she knew Anakin was Vader, keep in mind.

[@comedicidiot]

Well, most of the Ahsoka we see in Rebels is an Ahsoka who doesn't know that Anakin is Darth Vader. After that, it's fairly obvious through her interactions with Vader and others that something changed within her. The knowledge that her master was now a Sith Lord broke her on some level, and that's how we end up with how Ahsoka is now. What we see in the Ahsoka series is Ahsoka finally coming to terms with that knowledge, finally finishing that fight on Malachor. She moves on, and she becomes happier for it.

[@PB-sk9jn]

Of course, she found out that Vader was Anikin at the END of her stay in Rebels.

[@enzoamore8971]

​@@PB-sk9jnEXACTLY. She was never shown again after Ezra told her to come find him, left away to realize Ezra saved her from Vader. That Vader was her master, and soon she may end up like Vader. Stuck on Malchor for who knows how long reflecting with these thoughts.

[@bphater31]

Not surprised at all. She grows up. She's a adult. People change after many years.

[@thegamedevcave]

i was shocked at how w=much ahsoka suddenly felt like... ahsoka again. I was in camp "she feels a bit off" but damn was this a brilliant (and brave) way to characterize her!

[@thatboiheffy7817]

The losing of the headpiece was her finally cutting ties with her past.

[@gamingandedits5311]

Crossing her arms is her signature move, she has done it since she was a padawan

[@toddblankenship7164]

Thank you I also noticed this and biggest example is when she out side knocking on the window and tells that droid to get in there, go! and he tells her to get inside and she just smiles

[@comedicidiot]

Oh wow, a well written show is well written? It's almost like people are pulling complaints out of their asses while the show isn't even fully out yet

[@ChouRaiyuki]

Wait did people forget that this is post final season Clone Wars and post Rebels where she nearly went down dying to Vader? Like yeah it's not Ashoka from most of Clone Wars; there's years and stories between the two

[@Guns258]

The only problem I have is that in the show she's not using reverse grip.

[@boshwa20]

I dont think people realize how often people in general cross their arms. Standing and talking can be very boring, and ive crossed my arms a lot during conversations.

[@lauziyi5728]

Why is everyone complaining about her crossing arms?

[@thimovijfschaft3271]

Bruh what is up with people criticizing portrayals of characters because they don't understand how emotions, traumas and someone's past can affect people. Like I can kinda understand the criticism of Luke in the sequels. But then there were people critical of Kenobi and now Ahsoka. Like do these people have perfect lives? Or do they simply like Star Wars to be a pure form of escapism and not be comfronted with themselves eventhough these stories also kinda delve into how to cope with these troubles?

[@stefdelev]

Probably the latter lol

[@GIOKunchulia]

that "god damn" was personal

[@Pinkielover]

Anakin Is now the Mortis father He can even change forms at will, He is the balance between the light and the dark , He was 100% in control And had to teach her what she needed to know... She finally got it

[@user-sk4nt5bm5r]

Your comment is a bit weird. It seems not to be about the video?

[@ironmammoth7]

@@user-sk4nt5bm5r In Clone Wars the animated series, which is canon, Anakin, Obi-Wan and Ahsoka find these almost all-powerful force beings who live in a force realm called Mortis. The Father (balanced), the Son (dark side), and the Daughter (light side) are the three beings and son wants to destroy the father and the daughter so he can steal the Jedi ship and escape the realm. In the episode Ahsoka is killed and the daughter who is mortally wounded uses her remaining force power to revive Ahsoka and cleanse the dark side from her. Many believe that Ahsoka is now the daughter as the daughter had a connection with a bird Morai and now Ahsoka has that bond. The father grief stricken then kills himself and when the son responds in disbelief Anakin kills the son. So, they are now all dead.... or are they? I think that OP was noting how far Ahsoka has slipped from the light (torturing prisoners) and for her to be the "daughter" that is a correction that only the "father" could make. I didn't make that leap while watching this as I just felt it was Anakin's force ghost and all he was in life. The good, the bad, and ugly. Ahsoka needed to see that and realize the war really changed Anakin and not her leaving him. Also, she needed see what would happen to her if she continued down this path. Also, she needed to get her confidence back after getting beaten by Baylan. No better way than knowing that you can best Anakin/Vader. So, to me the whole episode was awesome, as is the series. So far, my favorite of the Star Wars TV shows without question.

[@KuDastardly]

I just assumed Ahsoka merely wised up with age.

[@StarryScribbles]

They really had us in the first half ngl

[@leannamation]

I completely understand what people were complaining about, but people really need to start trusting the writers man. Everything is happening for a reason, so dont complain about stuff when the show's just started

[@JamesTheTurnbull]

I think the arm cross thing is just thing she picked up from Anakin since he did it in the Clone Wars like all the damn time.

[@lillith3159]

Happy crossing arms sound

[@daemianmatthews2062]

Everyone cross their arms in the clone wars It was the only other innovation cell that they had.

[@drd444]

Lol people out here thinking they know better than Filoni. Its laughable.

[@Eric6761]

Let's not also forget this is also after she faced Vader, you know, the guy who helped kill all the Jedi, basically Ahsoka's big brother and someone she trusted dearly, someone she put her faith on and worst, she was about to get killed had not been Ezra saving her, she faced Vader and he was fully intending to kill her with 0 remorse, that would definitely screw you

[@officialtree5245]

Slyvester stallone v2

[@claudius3359]

Idk...that wasn't my issue.Tbh,it's expected that she would act more stoic when she grew up.But her interactions are kinda weird at the beginning.The way she stares at people,how she talks,feels a bit awkward. I wonder if this was intentional too...maybe to show that for sometime she doesn't have any interaction with other sentient species?

[@NL-X]

you forgot about Rebels, where she also appears and is also after the Jedi genocide, and she is not stoic in there. So it's still inconsistent to the character. Glad that she's back to her real self

[@amitzohar42]

The battle with Vader in Twilight of the Apprentice would've affected her as well.

[@stefdelev]

The biggest thing that affects her mentally is finding out Anakin is Vader. That doesn't happen until much later in the show, and she wouldn't have been able to really sit and dwell on it until after the rebellion/war - that's when she became much more stoic

[@JackFlicks]

Not an inconsistency as in Rebels she didn't find out until later on that her master became Vader.

[@Raii_Chu]

(Edit: The identity of Vader is revealed to her in Rebels) She holds a lot of blame of Anakin becoming Vader because she left the Jedi temple and Anakin. Anakin becoming Vader resulted in thousands of Jedi and innocent dead which in Ahsoka's mind would be partially herself to blame. That is some heavy feelings to haul around for a decade.

[@swcsomeonewhocares8707]

I honestly don’t mind Almost everything about the Ashoka show! It’s amazing and sent chills down my spine at certain parts BUT!! This is a big but… I reeeeally hope there was a logical reason for that lightsaber in Sabine’s guts… we have seen Qui-Gon liquify an airlock door by just stabbing it aaaand I doubt a “Sith” would lower any settings if that was considered.

[@itsasquid]

I literally said it from the fucking beginning. Episode 5 was fantastic! God, I love it.

[@neb985]

There is a certain type of Star Wars fan who never seem to learn. Filoni characters need to cook.

[@omarabu-baker9363]

Am I the only one who got the Gandalf the White reference...

[@tmandoesgamesv2.018]

She’s just wearing white bandages, it doesn’t mean she is the white from rebels

[@jediknightsamuel]

The clothing looks like the dress from rebels down to a lot of details. It definetely is the same cloak

[@kjerins]

The White means like Gandalf the White

[@casey339]

Star Trek: Completely disregards continuity and rewrites classic characters to be COMPLETELY different. Star Trek fans: This is fine. Star Wars: Makes awesome live action Ahsoka series penned by the Creator of Ahsoka herself. Star Wars fans: (in a whiney tone) SHE CROSSES HER ARMS TOO MUCH! 😭 Lol

[@Ki_Adi_Mundi]

Star Trek fans had just as much vitriol for the destruction of their franchise as Star Wars fans had over the sequels, not really sure where you're getting the "this is fine" narrative from, unless its mainstream journalists 😂

[@ACtheLegend]

Where's all this Ahsoka the White coming from? What's next, Hera the brown and orange?

[@stefdelev]

Lord of the Rings reference

[@abigaildandeneau2369]

To be honest im not us to life action Ashoka yet as well as the rest of the ghost crew.

[@jendaar]

I thought it's was cool how filoni was playing the long game. However, she didn't seem so stoic in rebels. Which begs the question: "what made her that way since rebels?" "Will we get something to fill us in?" "Was it something when she was training Sabine?"

[@ironmammoth7]

While she isn't stoic in Rebels that is true, however after facing Vader and making the realization that he is her former master she does become more aloof. Much more serious in later seasons. Honestly, I feel that she is more comfortable training Sabine because she can never have the power that true Jedi wields. At that time, she blamed herself for Vader, and I betting she was afraid that if she trained say Grogu he would become another Vader. At least with Sabine, she can help her to be a better warrior, but she will never become more powerful than Ahsoka. That fear was tainting her.

[@Felwinter999]

While I’m enjoying the story I do feel she just doesn’t feel the same as the ahsoka from rebels

[@Joker-cl7vu]

If little soka🥕. Oh sorry, that was tales of the Jedi. Of course I mean big soka 🥕 is happy I am happy, ☺️

[@therichbarbecue340]

Simple as she grew up

[@oOSure_ShotOo]

TOOOO MUCH WOOO WOOOOO for me

[@Jose-dh1xz]

I have fun with some aspects of the Ahsoka show but her transition from Gray to white has failed. People are acting like shes suicidal during the first have of the show. But now that she smiles (she also did that in the first have) big difference. LMAO.

[@victorwallec2534]

the ending was funnier than the show ... thats how bad it had gotten ... wow

[@OneTwoMark]

Ashoka is the most boring part of her own show, but the rest is still interesting to see. Baylon is the best part.

[@David-lq8cx]

This show doesn’t even come close to Andor, desperately has to rely on fan service (only so much they can milk Vader and anakin)

[@fliplife67]

so they’re improving a generic Jedi.

[@stefdelev]

Sounds like you didn't watch Clone Wars lol

[@fliplife67]

@@stefdelev I didn’t.

[@dinesendk]

I'm already tired of people calling her Ashoka the White. We all know, it should be Ashoka the Crossarmed.... Anyways.. If she is the White like Gandalf, Luke and Kenobi should be pure Light of Wisdom by now, right?

[@Quirderph]

I mean, both Luke and Kenobi *have* worn white already, so why not?

[@dinesendk]

@@Quirderph I was joking around too you know? - I don't remember people calling them "the White" or Anakin the Black for not wearing the white Padawan outfit. It's all good, just interesting.

[@enzoamore8971]

I think Ahsoka the White is also supposed to represent the Daughter, which is the lightside

[@Wolfe351]

its really funny people calling her Ahsoka "the white" she just changed clothes cause her grey gear got soaked!! Who doesn't have diff coloured clothes in their wardrobe!! LOL

[@LordRammasus]

Cope.

[@AmoralPhat40oz]

Cope video is a cope video is a cope video. Is the show entertaining? Yes is it good? No

[@hellfish2309]

Intention ≠ execution; Dave didn’t offer Rosario any internal conflict to Ahsoka’s portrayal in the (4) episodes to have her confront in the 5th - he bleached and muted the characterization, which is coincidentally very easy to write 🤔 1st episode: Ahsoka is chasing Thrawn for no good reason, but ok; has the map but instead if destroying it to deny whoever is trying rescue Thrawn, asks Sabine to decipher… ok… both characters know the other has goals that don’t match the other’s, but don’t have an argument about it? Hire a drama writer, a dialogue coach, or a troupe of theater geeks and stop wasting screentime: Han already frozen in carbonite had more drama than the pages Dave gave Rosario

[@stefdelev]

Ahsoka already has a shitload of internal conflict before the show even starts lol what are you talking about Also she and Sabine both want to rescue Ezra, it's not opposite goals

[@hellfish2309]

@@stefdelev please read more carefully before clapping back; you and I know she’s entering the show with truckloads of internal conflict, but her portrayal and writing for (4) episodes are entirely bleached of said conflict… sure you can do that before the catharsis in the 5th episode, but either way it’s a waste of screentime and a convenient way for Dave to just not write any dialogue to her pathos .. yeah that’s what I’m talking about and yeah they while not “opposite” goals, the fact that their goals don’t match AND each knows the other’s goal isn’t the same is obvious discussion that both need well before they leave Lothal

[@stefdelev]

@@hellfish2309 Gotchu, totally fair points!