Commodore Amiga TF1260 060 CPU Accelerator + 128MB + EIDE (For the A1200) - TerribleFire

[@GadgetUK164]

See this video for the latest firmware on the TF1260 (running LC060 at 94Mhz!!!) - kzbin.info/www/bejne/mILKYWWLpdiaasU Also - my guess of £250 might be a bit high. The figure in the annotation there was approx $300 to $350. So for UK currency, maybe between £180 and £200 ish? A lot of money, but in terms of Amiga prices - that's darn cheap to get up and running with an 060. I also worked out a number of thing related to ScummVM 1.5.0 that help with its performance - I have it running a LOT better now.

[@AmigaSwiss]

How you where Able to update Firmware, as there is no offizial way to do it

[@MrWaalkman]

£250? Still far less than I gave for my Blizzard 1260. Is the board for sale? I didn't if it was on the exxoshost site. If so, I might build one. I have a number of '060s looking for a purpose...

[@digitalpanther]

any idea where or when we will be able to get our hands on these in the USA?

[@AmigaSwiss]

@@digitalpanther Order ist polite From Chucky or alenppc , don’t know about shipping Go US

[@carlosm.orozcocardenas800]

@@digitalpanther .- You can order from AlenPPC. You can find him in the Commodore-Amiga Facebook Group. He ships to all Americas (not just US) and Australia too. He’s got immediate availability of the accelerator cards as of now. Chucky Hertell builds and distributes these cards for European audiences, and SuperDupa for UK. Hope it helps.

[@ridiculous_gaming]

I am sincerely sorry to hear about your health issues and hope things improve. Also your insane soldering skills vs mine is like comparing a crawling toddler trying to beat Bolt in a race. Some of the IC's you added I thought had to be machined; fantastic skills.

[@terosaarela4555]

Watched this the second time as I was fortunate enough to be able to buy a TF1260. Have to check out the follow-up video too.

[@75slaine]

Great stuff Chris, I’d really been looking forward to this video.

[@sulrich70]

Sorry about your health, look after yourself. I really like your videos, thank you (from Canberra Australia)

[@cullmaster7361]

Nice vid Gadget 👍🏻 I’m still using the retro cards from Phase 5 and DCE. Such as the blizzard 1260 and 603e plus cards with PPC. I’m under the impression MMUlib by THor also replaces the need for Blizkick from what I read? Personally I’m waiting on the Warp1260 cards as these have more features like RTG, Network and USB built in as well as a Heatsink and fan combo when you crank up the MHZ. As others have said a Good PSU is a must for the faster cards 👍🏻

[@Channel-Zx]

Excellent job Gadget looking forward to seeing the TF4060 soon!

[@keithmcgerr3056]

Great video hopefully you feel better soon &, so happy a Mr SL has added another TF to list. Those LED's look a right pain in the ground plane, on your way to enlightenment. 😉

[@DragonNova]

Nice to see some novacoder games getting a good workout :)

[@paulb4uk]

Superb work putting it all together a great bit of kit i could do with one to for my 2nd a1200.

[@GadgetUK164]

Thanks 👍

[@f1lupo]

beauty of a stable 060 board !

[@AdamSommer70]

Great video, thanks for posting!

[@andreafluffkitten]

Lovely card these, supaduper built mine and I'm really pleased with it. I've a Freescale LC on it which can't go beyond 63mhz but that iirc is firmware related, still happy though.

[@rwestvang]

A tip: Use at least three times more flux and just hold the chip down with some tweesers while you slide the soldertip with enough solder left to right a few times. The solder will sit much better and won't bridge. With too little flux, you'll burn it off before it can do it's job properly.

[@SimonSays-Techtalk]

Very nice videos. Keep em comming. Do you have, by any chance, a decent bomfile? The one if found/got with the blank pcb is really crappy.

[@GadgetUK164]

I just have the public one sorry =/

[@SimonSays-Techtalk]

@@GadgetUK164 No problem. The public one is somewhat unclear to me. There seems to be a mixup in the caps in row 2 I think. And the memory is becoming harder to get these days. Like many components :-(

[@JohnSweevo]

I like the Gallic inscriptions on the board :)

[@jrherita]

Get better soon!

[@georgelea4297]

Thanks for another awesome video Chris 👍

[@GadgetUK164]

Thanks 👍

[@douro20]

Did the TerribleFire team make one with a Coldfire chip?

[@GadgetUK164]

😂

[@douro20]

@@GadgetUK164 Well, I really wasn't joking.

[@TheSeanBean]

Gadget I did not hear you mention it but WhichAmiga will read the CPU internal ID. Apart from Rev I think it reports factory speed

[@MsMadLemon]

Wow, talk about coincidence, I just posted my video on the TF1260 minutes before you posted this lol.

[@GadgetUK164]

Honestly, I had NO IDEA you had released your video! It was a shock when someone mentioned in the premiere chat towards the end of the video! I really enjoyed your video - totally different look at things from what i did, and anyone reading this should check out the link in the pinned comment and watch it and sub =D And again sincere congrats on your marriage - fantastic news, bad news for the rest of us male tech geeks of course ;)

[@MsMadLemon]

@@GadgetUK164 Lol yeah it's a bit crazy isnt it... But one thing thats confusing me here though? why are some of these comments down below from 3 weeks ago? when it clearly says you posted it only a couple of hours ago? lol i'm confused

[@TerribleFire]

@@MsMadLemon This video was out on Patreon earlier i think.

[@MsMadLemon]

@@TerribleFire Aah of course, that makes sense.

[@GadgetUK164]

@@TerribleFire Thanks for creating this board Stephen! Love it!!!!

[@cevoner]

Hi I have a Compact Flash card and no boot on the TF1260 interface. It boots on the 1200 IDE interface. Where is pin 1 on the TF1260 board's IDE interface? Is it to the left or right with 1200 facing front? You have the red stripe on the right. It lights up for a second and then there is a, black screen and the CF card light goes out. If I reboot a purple screen appears. Thanks.

[@GadgetUK164]

Off the top of my head I cannot remember where pin 1 is - I am sure I showed it in the video. What I would suggest is posting on the Exxos forum - there's a dedicated TerribleFire section!

[@se7enity648]

I know how you feel when your health refuses to let you do the things you want to do. As a MS sufferer I sometimes get days or even weeks when you your body says no. Soldering small LEDs and wires become very difficult. Stay safe and never let your health get you down. This heat in the UK does not help.

[@johandenhertog6878]

Is the black Revision 1D a special edition. Have the green TF1260 Revision 1 with the 68060 Rev 6 CPU on it.

[@GadgetUK164]

Yes, it was a limited run!

[@johandenhertog6878]

That’s a beautiful TF1260. Like the moving red lights on it. My was very expensive because of the Rev 6 CPU on it.

[@frankowalker4662]

Nice addition to the A1200. I'm going to see what Maddi thinks of it, now. :) Edit: BTW, What version of Sys info are you using ? Mine is the basic version with no speed comparisons.

[@lukebowers536]

Hi there, ime watching this a few years later, is there a simple option where i can buy this 1260 in kit form to make without all the faffery of forums & messaging & 99 annoying things ? I would really like to make one of these, i actually have a Motorola 060 chip ive had sat here for 6 years ready to go in it but sadly i cant get the kit or even a pre-built board.

[@GadgetUK164]

I don't think there is for the TF1260 yet - just recommended builders.

[@lukebowers536]

@@GadgetUK164 ive only see a few green board versions on ebay every now & then, not the one you have & the ones i have seen have been very expensive.

[@coolos6890]

and the TF360 for the amiga CD32 with 1260 that accelerator card can be good too

[@gdonner]

Great video review--thank you! BTW, do you know if the TF4060 is still in the works? If so, I would be very interested in buying one (maybe two).

[@GadgetUK164]

Thanks! Yes, the TF4060 is still in the works - I will do a video on the proto soon!

[@RebornGalaxy]

how did you connect the AMIGA to the monitor, scan doubbler?

[@JGO-DB-Z]

Dear Sir, sorry for my stupid question but where we really could buy it? Thank you

[@GadgetUK164]

You can message supaduper, alenppc or Chucky about purchasing one on the Exxos forum:- www.exxoshost.co.uk/forum/index.php You can probably also find those guys on Amibay or EAB.

[@JGO-DB-Z]

@@GadgetUK164 Thank you so much! :D but alenppc is an italian boy perhaps?

[@TheSeanBean]

The RAM CPLD gets the hottest in my experience. So with the CF card on top there is not going to be much air flow. I'm wondering if it is overheating when you push the overclock up? My fan blows over RAM CPLD first.

[@xav500011]

Where can I buy 3M thermal two sided sticky tape stuff?

[@GadgetUK164]

There was a great seller on eBay that seems to have stopped selling it =/ For the last stuff I just ordered I got some other adhesive tape from China (eBay) - no idea if its any good yet.

[@AndrewBlakeOxford]

What type of fan are you using, sorry if you mentioned it?

[@GadgetUK164]

I went with a 12v DC 40mm x 40mm fan.

[@brostenen]

I would really love an 030 with tons of ram in my 1200. It is still stock config (not upgraded at all)

[@ridiculous_gaming]

Since you can grab a 50mhz 030 chip for $40 that is really great for compatibility while a full blown 060 is literally $600 today and LC models without the Math coprocessor have issues. Besides there are no real Amiga games that need more than an 030 anyway. Quake can be run fine via a 15 year old PC laptop, and I don't run my Amiga for Quake, but original Amiga titles.

[@brostenen]

@@ridiculous_gaming The issue with Amiga, is the price of accelerators. If you can find an accelerator that delivers only CPU and Ram, then you need to source used ones from back then. And they are up around some 476 to 634 US dollars here in Europe. Plus shipping. And they usually only come with no Ram or just 8mb. I just dont need what the modern ones offer. Like extra ports and maprom. I only want 030 and 64 to 128mb Ram and nothing more. Basically, there are nothing on the market, and if something comes on the market, then it will be sold out within 1 day and will never get sold again. What we need, is a cheap basic CPU and Ram accelerator. A bit like the TF1260, just without any IDE port or clockport or maprom. And that is simply not avaliable. It is fine that we can buy cheap CPU's, but without any card to stick it in, then it does not matter at all.

[@brostenen]

@@drphilxr It is not compatible and never will be acording to stephen him self. And you will have to buy a buffee in order to get a TF-1200. The A1200 buffee card, are ordered by the buffee team or something.

[@craiggilchrist4223]

I would like to make a smooth sliding entry said the Bishop to the Barmaid.

[@GadgetUK164]

LOL

[@gdonner]

Quick question, if I may: do you recommend putting an IDE terminator on the 1200's native IDE port since it's no longer needed? I would think it might speed up boot times?

[@GadgetUK164]

You could try that, it may work just the same as it does on the A4000, but it might not - depends how Gayle works with the IDE there on the 1200. Personally I just boot from the onboard IDE and add the EIDE on the TF1260 as an additional drive.

[@danielson9579]

Trying to getting to 75mhz could be a power problem

[@GadgetUK164]

Nah, power is fine! Beefy PSU, voltage doesnt drop and actually I've been monitoring it whilst in use and seldom the 5v rail drops below 5.08v.

[@Rv-Tech]

Hi, Where can I order the PCB ? And where is the parts List ? 😁

[@GadgetUK164]

As mentioned in the video, its a closed source project at the moment. Stephen may open source this later in the year, once a number of these have sold. At that point you would be able to order a PCB and the components to build your own.

[@discoHR]

Nice. I was waiting a couple of years for TF1260, started waiting when it was just a rumour. Then everything went to hell and I ended up buying Apollo 1260. I'm glad I did, otherwise I still wouldn't have an 1260. It's weird you're getting only 1.6 and 1.8 MB/s on both IDE and EIDE. On my A1200 I can't get below 2 MB/s (max A1200 IDE speed) on Apollo 1260 and ACA1233. Could be your CF cards and/or adapters play a role here. I'm using Kingspec PATA SSDs with PFS3 in my Amigas. Looking forward to see how fast TF1260 is with PIO4. FastATA Mk7 for my A4000 is on the way. I wonder how fast it will be with 060 100 MHz. 10+ MB/s would be nice but I have doubts it will be that fast, even with PIO4.

[@GadgetUK164]

The EIDE has shot up with the latest update! 5MB/s But I've only ever had around 1.6MB/s on the onboard IDE. It could be because those drives are using the standard filesystem and default block size.

[@discoHR]

FastATA arrived. I'm getting only 6,853,437 bytes/s on A4000 with CS Mk2 and 060 rev6 at 100 MHz. Bummer.

[@GadgetUK164]

@@discoHR That's not bad tbh!!! Getting around 5.3MB/s now on the EIDE interface of the card. I suspect it would be faster with better CF card / SD adapter.

[@discoHR]

Maxed it out at 7.3 MB/s with PIO5. Ordered some SATA adapters directly from Elbox, will see how it handles SATA SSDs but I doubt they will be faster. 5.3 MB/s is great for A1200!

[@timballam3675]

OMG who put the processor in the static generator?

[@GadgetUK164]

Came from China like that!

[@RalfZille]

1:03:09 Red LEDs of Knight Rider "K.I.T.T." 😉

[@GadgetUK164]

Haha - yes! Makes me want to watch Knight Rider again!

[@razorx2024]

i'd recommend trying a knife tip for this kind of work

[@tarstarkusz]

Wolfenstein runs fine on a 286-12 with even the lowest end VGA card. Why it needs an 060 to run on an Amiga is a mystery to me.

[@GadgetUK164]

It doesn't, it will run on an 020 probably!

[@jrherita]

It also runs on a standard Atari STe with 68000 @ 8 MHz.

[@valenrn8657]

@Neb6 A500's Dread (cut-down Doom clone) used the Bilter hardware to speed up the C2P process.

[@danielson9579]

I overclocked the 040/25 to 40mhz on the 68k side of my old ppc card and it made quite a difference a 040 at 40mhz runs quicker than you think 🙂

[@GadgetUK164]

Thanks, yes - Andy T mentioned that same point to me! I am sure it does run very well at higher clock speeds. Also when there's local RAM it shifts too.

[@JoseSandoval-jm5sw]

But will it run Crysis on max settings??? 🥸

[@GadgetUK164]

🤣

[@tarstarkusz]

The best way to play payback is on a GP2X

[@Andrew-x7q8c]

Do you know what, I love the Amiga but they didn’t half make things bloody complicated! Nothing is ever simple to get working.

[@GadgetUK164]

No Second Prize!

[@danielson9579]

A 060 without an fpu is like a dog that can't go woof 😒

[@TerribleFire]

Well its cheaper than an 030 and goes 3 times the speed.. So maybe a sprinting mute dog?

[@valenrn8657]

060 with FPU is like fast very 486SX. 486SX is equivalent to 68LC040. Apple Quadra 605 was sold with 68LC040 and an entry price of $1000 in October 1993, it was ready for MacOS's Doom official port.

[@adamlips1711]

@daniel son I disagree!!! I have a LC in my TF1260 and it flys - only thing i use that needs an FPU is quake and for that I have my Vampire machines!

[@brostenen]

Hope it is not cancer..... Fingers crossed.

[@soviet9922]

Don't get why someone could make an accelerator open source and then start to complain about someone "cloning" it. Is not that the purpose of opensource ?. In place of winning about it, he should have done it closed source from the start ?.

[@GadgetUK164]

It wasn't fully open source at that point! However, Stephen has now open sourced the TF1230 and TF1260...

[@johnwiesen4440]

The price of 68060 CPUs are a too high. The best I have got for my A1200 is a 68030 with a 68882.

[@tarstarkusz]

That is all you really need. Nobody is doing actual work on Amigas today and even if they were, they'd be using 200mhz PPC chips like back in the 90s. The best way to play Doom is on a PC. It's not an Amiga game. 98% of the best Amiga games will play on a A500! This is just an expensive toy. Which is fine if you like playing around with expensive stuff.

[@GadgetUK164]

Nah, an LC 060 is £40. That's not breaking the bank! But an 030 is like £7 or something, so yes there is a big difference!

[@tarstarkusz]

@@GadgetUK164 It's not just the chip. There is usually an expensive board involved too. Didn't you say the chip you wanted was like 350 quid?

[@TerribleFire]

@@tarstarkusz The LC chips are 3 times the speed of an 030 and actually cheaper than the 030 chip itself. The TF1260 without CPU is approx the same price of an 030 board.

[@valenrn8657]

@@GadgetUK164 It's about $40 USD when I bought my 68LC060 Rev 4. I later bought 68060 Rev 1 for $200 USD.