Game of Thrones 5x9 REACTION and REVIEW | FIRST TIME Watching!! | 'The Dance of Dragons'

[@SpartanandPudgey]

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[@Jon.A.Scholt]

Pudgey could totally be a Martell.

[@shockwave1126]

For Stannis it is more than the throne. It’s saving humanity from White Walkers. He believes to be The One and hence, the sacrifice. I’m not saying I agree, merely pointing out his perspective. I’m thinking this is inspired by Greek Mythology.

[@TheWindcrow]

Greyscale is like Poison Ivey. You have to directly touch the puss or infected part to get it. If it has puss on something and it touches you, you're done. If you touch it directly you're done.

[@kmcd3020]

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[@SpartanandPudgey]

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[@ziva9266]

And keep in mind, House of the Dragon wasn’t around at the time of this season’s airing, so this for everyone was the first time we saw someone actually ride a dragon. Still gives me goosebumps, so epic

[@piotrnowak8725]

First time in TV, perhaps. At the time, there was Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2, Eragon and the Witch-king of Angmar in the Lord of the Rings.

[@ziva9266]

@@piotrnowak8725 yes, I meant within the GoT universe

[@d3l3tes00n]

Barebacking it lol

[@jcompton8507]

@@piotrnowak8725 Again...it's a movie, not TV...but does Bastian riding Falkor in the Neverending Story count?

[@themourningstar338]

@@piotrnowak8725 There aren't any dragons in LOTR. The things that the ring wraiths and the Witch King ride are just some unnamed type of evil winged beasts, more in line with a Pterosaur that's domesticated enough to ride. In Tolkien's universe the dragons are made up of actual traditional types of dragons, they're super intelligent and calculating, they can speak, they can hypnotize people, they do whatever the F they want, some (like Smaug) horde treasure etc. and they do not appear in LOTR.

[@ziva9266]

To go from the absolute tragedy that is Shireen’s death to the ecstatic triumph of Dany finally becoming a dragon rider is such an emotional rollercoaster

[@levilevi9621]

Odd pacing choice indeed.

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

One Reactor was showing his young daughter all the GoT shows on You Tube and when it came to this episode, he switched the scenes! He made her watch the Shireen burning at the end. So ruthless! lol

[@iris-xo]

literally idk why they would do that lol

[@TheOriginalRaxin]

Seeing them do the Mannis like that is when I could tell the guys running the show wanted to just hurry up and get to the end, story be damned.

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

@@TheOriginalRaxin For sure.

[@beclou9832]

Meryn Trant was the one who killed Syrio which is why he's on Arya's list

[@uinen9029]

Yes. And Joffrey ordered him to hit Sansa in the Throne-room and on the fortress wall. 👿He enjoyed, Tyrion also noted that. I haven't forgotten that.😥

[@xixXxxXxix]

Although I don't actually think he killed Syrio. We never seen Syrio's death, something pretty much unheard of on GoT, and then suddenly a few episodes later another man from Braavos who talks and philosiphises the same as Syrio comes in to Arya's life -> Jaqen H'ghar.

[@Timmayytoo]

@@xixXxxXxix No

[@xixXxxXxix]

@@Timmayytoo you lack any imagination or critical thinking my friend lol

[@jaybe9627]

@@xixXxxXxix If that’s true it’d be one of George’s longest tight lipped mysteries of like 30 years, which I think is pretty unlikely. He has a blabbermouth for a lot of his favorite plot lines.

[@branthall1787]

Shireen's sacrifice is one of the most well acted scenes in the entire show. That final scream is absolutely blood curdling.

[@harsh_1910]

Lol I completely misunderstood what you said at first, thinking that you thought shireen willingly sacrificed herself

[@ziva9266]

Especially that last scream that slowly fades away… Still hurts my soul

[@branthall1787]

@@ziva9266 it's the way her voice cracks that completes it. It's so believable as a scream of both pure, intense pain and outright fear.

[@johnnyd1790]

1. Deserved scream of the year award or something. Nobody can top that. 2. When Danny took off on that dragon, I think that look in Tyrion eyes betrayed more than just admiration and awe; looking back this might be the moment he starts loving her. I actually think the rest of the show is better knowing this from the get go, from right now.

[@jesses5463]

@@harsh_1910 It's a sacrifice that Stannis had to make. He's had it tougher than any father in TV history. Poor guy.

[@Darth_Nycta_13]

Poor Shireen Baratheon, She deserved SO much more.

[@exgardevior]

She hasn’t done anything to deserve anything more… it is what it is

[@solongdentahlplaan7975]

I'da been like, " On second thought, let's not go to Winterfell. Tis a silly place."

[@dallesamllhals9161]

@@solongdentahlplaan7975 I would just "RUN AWAY"

[@bakthihapuarachchi3447]

​@@solongdentahlplaan7975 that would have been death too. If Stannis retreated again, most of his soldiers would disperse and flee, and Stannis and his family would have been caught by the Boltons

[@myrddhix8183]

@@exgardeviorshe didn’t deserve to die like that, that’s for sure😂

[@juliant]

The Shireen actress did so well. Those screams haunt my life.

[@andreim.5324]

Remember what Bronn said to Merryn Trant at the end of season 2: "You're a grub, in fancy armor, who's better at beating little girls than fighting men.". He knew exactly the kind of gross pervert Trant is and called him on it, right in his face.

[@hokagedlo6133]

Well everyone knew that about trant tbh.

[@diziswizski]

Bronn was talking about Sansa. Don’t give David Benioff and D. B. Weiss too much credit

[@vinibeatz9100]

In this situation I think Bronn was talking about Sansa... after this sicko beats her by Joffrey orders

[@andreim.5324]

@@diziswizski Bronn was talking about Sansa but also about what Trant loves to do in general. The Sansa beating was what the public knew and saw back then, but here we see that Trant was doing this in his spare time too. No one commanded him to be in that brothel. Bronn was commander of the city watch. As such he rounded all the known thieves. Do you really think Bronn knew nothing about Trant's exploits in his free time? It has nothing to do with benioff and weiss's writing.

[@kalecrystal4054]

yeah its no wonder he was so loyal to Joffrey and why the Hound was extra protective around Sansa during the time he was in that triad of personal gaurdsmen

[@keanancupido]

Shireen was the sweetest and most innocent person in Westeros. Her death was a pain for me too😢

[@ccchhhrrriiisss100]

The mother should have offered herself in Shireen's place. Instead, she just let her daughter be marched to the stake to be burned. I really like the book version of Stannis. However, this heartless act erased any appreciation of his character.

[@ccchhhrrriiisss100]

@@williamshelton4318 - True. But, a good mother would have offered up herself. I just have an intense dislike for this mother.

[@jesses5463]

@@ccchhhrrriiisss100 What are you even talking about? That doesn't even make sense. The mother doesn't have King's blood. She was born into House Florent which is a bannerman of House Tyrell.

[@ccchhhrrriiisss100]

@@jesses5463 - I never said otherwise. I'm just saying that a GOOD mother would have been willing to offer her life for her child. I'm not saying that Stannis or the Red Woman would have accepted such an exchange.

[@jesses5463]

@@ccchhhrrriiisss100 Hopefully they wouldn't give any airtime to that though. It's only an hour show.

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[@neilgriffiths6427]

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[@fernandof.2225]

people doing spoilers will get the same death as Shireen

[@LadySophiaVelaryon]

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[@LadySophiaVelaryon]

Someone posted a spoiler from season 6. 😠

[@RazorbackX99]

Mad props to the actor of Shireen... those screams froze my blood the first time I heard them.

[@araceli2827]

I've heard that the scream was real because she felt the fire aproaching to her and thought she would burn for real 😢

[@ecotonoirrelevante246]

Actually, they really killed the actress for dramatic effect. The screams were real. @@araceli2827

[@chrisb.2178]

The burning of Shireen was and still is the hardest to watch scene in the whole GoT series for me. I was absolutly devestated when I saw this the first time and Stannis became my most hated character. And even after rewatching the show several times I find it almost impossible to bear. Hearing her screams still makes me cry. But you have to admit that Kerry Ingram did a fantastic job in this scene. What a heartbreaking performance by such an young actress.

[@BhBc8f8]

I mean he did "see" or was manipulated into seeing his victory "in the flames". How do you doubt something that's right in front of you. He believes it is his sacred duty and divine right to become King of Westeros. In his mind he is sacrificing a few to save many, which is what society always tells us to do. In hindsight, if Sheeren’s death actually led to his victory and saved the North from Ramsey then we will all be saying “That sucks but at least it was worth it.” but now it’s “Stannis sucks and killed his daughter for nothing”. It's just tragic all around.

[@jackalope_hunter]

Why was stannis your most hated character after this? Should have been the directors. It's just a totally unbelievable scene for any of these characters except for the mom (she sucks) and the directors (they suck, mostly). This is where the show starts to be so ridiculous and go downhill. (BotB was good tho)

[@BhBc8f8]

@@jackalope_hunter What do you mean, if you read the books you should know that Shireen is 100% getting sacrificed. GRRM has given us many hints to predict that, we just don't know how or when it's going to happen. Obviously there is no way Melisandre will go ahead without Stannis or Seyles's consent since in the books they are both at the wall together. There are also hints that Stannis will be sacrificed as well but that's just a theory.

[@akramlakamora5517]

@@BhBc8f8 Stannis is many leagues away from Melisandre without any way to connect with her. Shireen will get sacrificed, but not under Stannis' commands. Stannis even said it in the preview chapters of TWOW.

[@TheTororist]

@@BhBc8f8 you dont know whats going to happen, she's still alive, no matter your predictions. could be a misdirect, like grrm is known for.

[@jarsky]

"The Dance of Dragons" Sir Davos refers ti for Shareen to tell him when he returns, is the story of the House of the Dragon and the events to come in that show 👌

[@xixXxxXxix]

makes it more poignant that Dany rides a Dragon for the first time in this episode after that mention.

[@tealsquare]

"We are pumped" Full of tears 😂

[@bugsby4663]

That burning was based on the Greek legend of Iphigenia who was the daughter of king Agamemnon. She was sacrificed so his army could go on to Troy.

[@d3l3tes00n]

What happened?

[@Silver_Owl]

@@williamshelton4318 I've always been 100 percent on Clytemnestra's side over that. Agamemnon deserved everything he got. I didn't agree with killing poor Cassandra though.

[@brandoman79]

@@d3l3tes00n After she is sacrificed the Geek Army is able to go to Troy and fight (win) The Trojan War. After the Greek's victory Agamemnon sails back and his wife who was angry at him for sacrificing their daughter hatches a revenge plot, she plots this all while he is away, and when he gets back he takes a bath in one of those giant geek/roman style baths and as he is bathing she comes in and throws a net over him and leaps in the bath and stabs him to death.

[@Silver_Owl]

@@williamshelton4318 I'll agree with you on the whole stole the throne thing, but I still don't regret Agamemnon died. A man who can kill one kid can kill another.

[@ks1227]

There’s a version of this plot in the Bible too, at the end of Judges 11. But no one ever talks about it.

[@AzukaLockheart]

I remember back when this episode aired, everyone posted a pictures of Stannis on the coming Fathers Day 😂

[@Silver_Owl]

I hereby nominate him for the Worst TV Dad Ever Award. 😁

[@cas4040]

😂 I forgot all about that!

[@whatisreddin7367]

I hate it 😂 George Martin made one of the best characters of all time and the show writers turned him into a t-shirt meme

[@jesses5463]

He wasn't a bad dad. He just put the Lord of Light first, which he should do as a true believer.

[@monkeyman1350]

@@jesses5463 weak ass take lol. He didn’t believe at all he was just desperate for the crown

[@evilsponge6911]

I still get chills listening to the chorus swell as Dany rides her dragon for the first time. I can almost imagine all her ancestors looking on as the last scion of Old Valaryia finally fulfills her destiny.

[@damienhanrahan1162]

I was surprised to see them be confused by Selyse changing her mind, it wasn't redemption by any means but it showed that a mother's love could break through all the brainwashing in that moment

[@MrTabs64]

Shireen's death was the worst for me in GOT. Even though you don't see her burn to death........her screams I will never forget.

[@darynkatano]

Kerry Ingram's acting was so great

[@exgardevior]

That was my favorite death…

[@Praetoras]

@@exgardevior You need help

[@WilsonRows]

@@williamshelton4318 Sansa's wedding night was a hard watch. Ik a lot of people that had to skip that scene.

[@jesses5463]

@@Praetoras You need help for your religious discrimination.

[@tonismith3707]

The reason Jorah's not spreading greyscale is that nobody is touching it. They would have to touch the exact spot that it's located, and on bare skin to spread it.

[@KingApeiron]

I can feel Stannis' love for Shireen radiating... off of the bonfire he put her on.

[@sachinmurali8614]

Guys somewhere along the line you need to rewatch the HOD scene where Viserys Targaryen passes on the Targaryen prophecy to Rhaenyra. AEGON'S DREAM

[@kalecrystal4054]

yes!!!!!

[@dannypatrick9361]

I still remember the actress the day after this episode aired posting a pic on twitter of her standing behind a BBQ on fire with the caption "oh no! Not again!"

[@steveswafen2528]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Gaius__]

lol, I have never seen that, or heard of it. That's hilarious.

[@nickcarlson2708]

Stannis has damned himself in the eyes of gods and man.

[@krushingkobra]

“Surely not Game Of Thrones, surely this one is too far” Oh my sweet summer child…. Did you no heed Ramsay’s warning? “If you think this has a happy ending, you haven’t been paying attention.”

[@TheKonkaman]

Ive always loved that quote 😂

[@IAmJustR]

Really the total sum of the show😂

[@TomsTube]

This was the first time we ever saw ANYONE, let alone Dany FLY a dragon!!! Especially since Drogon was soooo small at the beginning, so it was EPIC for all fans at the time! Plus, props to Dany for riding Drogon bareback too… No saddles involved! 😱🤩😵

[@queenxx1690]

she does that in books but she has whip

[@minty6891]

I'll never forget the first time my family and I watched the Shireen scene. I had never seen my dad cry before that and I look over at him, shocked at what I was seeing on screen and expected him to just have a blank face. He was red-faced and bawling his eyes out lol

[@Gaius__]

I can understand that. This is hard for a dad to watch. Most dads would jump in front of an onrushing freight train for their little girls.

[@ms_scribbles]

It always baffled me how people could watch that scene and still think Stanis was "the Mannis". A man so addicted to power that he would burn his own daughter alive for it, and then lie to himself that he had no choice because it was his "destiny". And yes, book nerds, I know he claimed in the books not to want power, but he still did every disgusting thing he could to get it. He was lying. To himself and everyone around him.

[@ianvera4299]

Those books nerds need to realize that GRRM told the writers that Stannis will be deciding to burn his child in the books.

[@olhabaliasina]

Shireen, you will not be forgotten... 😢

[@kinda_cold_in_the_closet]

Spartan: I'm choked up pretty bad :( Pudgey: YOU'RE CHOKED UP??? I'M DYING

[@Rajarshi_X]

The thing about Stannis is that he doesn't technically 'want' the throne. He thinks its his DUTY to sit on it. Duty is everything to him. As f'ed up as it is he showed the strongest will to go through with that decision. In his mind he chose his duty towards the realm over his own daughter. This is why GRRM is such a great writer.

[@Silver_Owl]

Agreed. He's wrong though - he doesn't have the right to kill Shireen, duty or not. But yes, that's how he sees it.

[@rakdar1714]

@@Silver_Owl which is why she doesn’t get sacrificed in the books and definitely won’t be sacrificed due to bad weather

[@Rajarshi_X]

@@Silver_Owl of course from a bird's eye view when you watch these events you can say he doesn't have the right to do this do that lol. He has the right to do everything he thinks he's the king. Rights, equality democracy etc etc are foreign concepts to this story. You can't fully enjoy it if you're looking at it from modern perspective. Like i cried watching this not because someone's rights were violated but because that's sweet little baby got burnt to death that's horrible. I appreciate the writing quality.

[@Rajarshi_X]

@@rakdar1714 the person's comments don't make any sense, what rights ?? you think George wouldn't write this because it's too horrible? this scene has his fingerprints all over it. This will happen in the books. George constantly takes his characters and puts them through the toughest moments.

[@Silver_Owl]

@@rakdar1714 We'll have to wait and see re the books.

[@OccamAsylum]

That ending scene is one of my favorite in the show. The music always gives me chills. Favorite in the season soundtrack.

[@SpartanandPudgey]

Soundtracks are amazing

[@Jon.A.Scholt]

Hardhome, the greatest sequence in the show is followed up by the most heartbreaking.

[@ailene_e]

Shireen was too pure to this world. This broke my heart. Stannis was dead to me after this.

[@MaishaOnTop]

Well he litteraly died right after this and I was definitely not mad at it

[@scottisitt]

Drogon's entrance, exit, and everything that happened in between was…well, 🔥. Love that scene.

[@bobdonda]

always puts a smile on my face to see one of your reactions show up in my subscriptions!

[@kappa_06]

About the Baratheons brothers: Castelblack's blacksmith, Donal Noye, before being on night watch, was the blacksmith of Acalmie, the castel of the Baratheons. He knew very well the 3 Baratheons brothers, Robert, Stannis and Renly, during their childhood. And he once said to Jon Snow: - Robert is like true steel: Sharp and effective in battle, but he rusts if left hanging on the wall. - Renly is like copper, bright and shiny, pretty to loook at, but too malleable to use as a weapon, not worth all that much at the end of the day - Stannis is pure iron. Hard, and strong, yes, but brittle, the way iron gets. He'll break before he bends.... So is Stannis Stannis's story was here inspired by Agammemon's story from the Troy war. In the Greek mythology, Agamemnon had to sacrifice his daughter, Iphigénie to appease the wrath of Arthemis and provide favorable winds for the Greeks to sail through the Aegean Sea. In this ep, same story, Stannis is Agammemnon, and Rhollor is Artemis.

[@1siddynickhead]

So well put! Thank you for this perspective in a comment section overrun with complaints about how this turn of events doesn't make sense😂

[@bobafett9348]

@@1siddynickhead because it does not. Show writers betrayed source material

[@ianvera4299]

@@bobafett9348 Yes it does make sense. The show writers were told by GRRM himself that Stannis will burn Shireen, look it up.

[@bobafett9348]

@@ianvera4299 I call bullshit on that take. The interview you mention, the D&D stay cryptic as fuck. They merely say "George told us" they never say that Stannis will be the one to do it ? Why ? Perhaps because they cant. Book Stannis left Shireen at Castle Black and is hundreds of miles away. Book Stannis refuses to burn prisoners. Book Stannis if he dies as he does in the show will literally be unable to burn Shireen. But if he burns Shireen ? That means he beats the Boltons. In either way the showwriters betrayed the source material and their lies have caught up with them.

[@ianvera4299]

@@bobafett9348 You can bullshit all you want its the truth. Go read James Hibberd, Fire Cannot Kill A dragon, where GRRM tells D&D that Stannis will burn his child, Bran will be king, and Hold the door. Cope

[@kalecrystal4054]

I love Pudgey quickly summing up the situation with Arya. So Astute Also... Pudgey your insights about Mel (the Red Woman) Did Spartan get teary too at the Dany secene? A little choked up there too with the music swell? I love how Spartan pointed out the parallels between Jon and Dany. "The young up and coming leaders of their time. " I love you shipping them Spartan And yes you are accurate about the first time seeing Dany ride for those of us not seeing HOTD first... It was amazing because no one knew she could ride it. It was the BEST.

[@bereasonable8018]

The piece of music when Dany flies away on Drogon’s back is Dany’s theme. You will also later recognize which theme is Jon’s and Sansa’s etc.

[@kalecrystal4054]

Yeah and its such an interesting way that the composer tied Dany and Rhaenyra's themes together. He kind of remixed it - incorporating elements of this into Rhae's.

[@bereasonable8018]

@@kalecrystal4054 💯 I can’t remember if they ever made it clear if Dany’s theme is actually a Targaryen theme as opposed to specifically for Dany.

[@mymaynee5963]

nah its the dragon theme, it was olayed in hotd as well, and the sansa and jon one is stark theme

[@Starkiller2725]

The music that we hear while she rides Drogon, was the first theme we hear in HotD as well. It made me so tearful when i heard it again in the spinoff.

[@onsideobsession5412]

Shireen's death was the first time I cried watching this show Somehow I survived the Red wedding, Ned's death and so much more but Shireen's death was too much for me 😢

[@kellifranklin9872]

Same for me. I was too shocked to do anything during the red wedding. Shireen being burned made me cry and I had to force myself to remember it was just a show before I could go to sleep that night.

[@uinen9029]

@@kellifranklin9872 me too😥. I was shocked and and i said to myself : it's just a show, it is just a show, it's just a show...

[@WilsonRows]

Yeah, I totally understand that feeling. Sometimes the anger takes over the sadness.

[@dontaehinton7241]

I’ve watched this series in its entirety several times. This is the only episode that brings me to tears EVERY TIME!

[@remoballesteros448]

I'm not supposed to, but seeing Pudgey cry made me do so

[@fernandof.2225]

Pudgey, the size of your eyes when you get exited are incredible. Excellent reactions.

[@bereasonable8018]

Something that always bothered me about the events in Mereen is that there were supposed to be thousands of Unsullied that followed Dany but there weren’t that many here in the fighting pits where Dany is sitting. They should have had her surrounded and sheilded from the backside of where she sat

[@bill.godwin-austen]

Those were the ones assigned to her personal guard. The others were most likely patrolling the city or resting for their turn on duty.

[@bereasonable8018]

@@bill.godwin-austen I keep picturing the scene when she liberated them from the slave masters and there were at least 3,000. She should have had a larger personal guard around her given how Greyworm was attacked and Ser Barristan was killed. She knew the people were hostile and violent

[@bill.godwin-austen]

@@bereasonable8018 I believe that it was an army of 8000 unsullied that she acquired. I don't know exactly how many were in the fighting pit as her personal guard but just from appearance it was probably 100+. In retrospect, more would have definitely been better. They clearly didn't anticipate that level of open assault.

[@bereasonable8018]

@@bill.godwin-austen thank you for these details. I couldn’t remember it all. Given that these Sons of Harpy have attacked Unsullied and killed people, it was idiotic that Tyrion or Daario didn’t suggest a larger Queen’s guard force around Dany until they got rid of the SoH. With an army of 8,000 unsullied, even if 3k were patrolling the city and 3k were resting, that leaves 2k available. She should have had at least 1k at the fighting pit, not 100-200

[@suddenimpulse030]

Mereen is an absolutely massive city. Most of them would be elsewhere. They didn't expect a huge mass of them to show up and attack there.

[@Gilmaru]

For me Shireen's burning scene was the most difficult scene to watch in the entire series. Not the Red Wedding, not Ned's death, but the screams of a child being burned. It was just too much for me. This was probably the reason I didn't enjoy season 5 as much as I could have.

[@juliant]

As a man, I could never understand Stannis's actions in this episode. No ambition would be worth my child.

[@jellalfernandes1309]

It was not ambition. He thought he had to do it to be that guy who was promised

[@chrisb.2178]

And don't forget, he already killed his brother

[@juliant]

@jellal fernandes no, he thought he was the rightful ruler after Roberts death and being told about Cersei, Jamie and her children. The Azora Hai prophecy was just the icing on the ambition cake.

[@DrewDragoon]

This is the tragic nature of his character, he is duty bound to the highest degree. He thinks he's being selfless here by giving up the person he loves most so that he can fulfill his duty to the realm

[@Silver_Owl]

@@DrewDragoonAgreed, and yet he fails to appreciate that she's not his to give up.

[@Alegend13]

music is the soul of film, without a good score the film is nothing.

[@gulshanbisht]

Shireen's death is the 3rd tragedy out of 5 that made me fall in love with this show.

[@AmericaFirst-1]

Shireen hit that note like she was falling from a cliff. Brutal scene that in hindsight I'm not convinced it added much. More of a shock effect rather than a serious plot point.

[@kellifranklin9872]

I’ve often thought that as well. The more I rewatch this series the more I’m convinced there was no real reason for that.

[@DrewDragoon]

Heavy spoilers for the end of season 5 and season 6 ahead. Shireen's sacrifice to the red God is heavily implied to be accountable for why Jon is brought back to life later on. You can rest easy knowing it meant something at least.

[@kellifranklin9872]

@@DrewDragoon You’re absolutely right. I don’t think about that. That makes perfect sense in this universe. Thank you for posting that. I feel a little better now! Lol

[@AmericaFirst-1]

@@DrewDragoon They are on 6x5 so don't worry about spoilers up to then. But My issue with what you said is what happens with Beric Dondarrion doesnt match that theory for me. The way the show made it feel for me is that they (Jon & Baric) have a purpose to fulfill and why they were brought back. Of all the Red Priest and Brotherhood we see only 1 of them ever sacrifices people at the stake. Could have been just bad judgement on M's part.

[@ianvera4299]

@@kellifranklin9872 "Only death can pay for life" Shireen died so that Jon could live

[@nickjonas3704]

I love genuine reaction like this where the reactors actually cry 😭💖🙏

[@KennethSavage-nn2vv]

This episode is the one with so many call backs to HOTD…,One of my favorite GOT episodes. Good review and reaction

[@kinda_cold_in_the_closet]

God, I HATED when Shireen had to die, but I'm also glad we got to see the potential of the young actress. Her screams of terror are Oscar worthy

[@rin68nyr90]

“I can feel the love radiating for his daughter…” 😂😂😂😢😭😭😭 Don’t feel bad…I still cry every time I see that scene

[@Brian-mb8sx]

One of my few complaints about this season is Ellaria constantly talking like Oberyn was wrongfully murdered by the Lannisters. Someone needs to remind her that Oberyn VOLUNTEERED to take part in a trial by combat.

[@araceli2827]

That is why I hated Ellaria and the (only 3) Sand Snakes

[@_justinblizzle]

Doran did remind her of that in their first scene together- she just didn't give af.

[@happysqWid]

Very realistic dialogs. If a parent has a son die during the sons military deployment, do they just have to just deal with it, because the son volunteered? Losing a loved one is losing a loved one, and seeking vengeance is profoundly reasonable. Illogical, maybe, but understandable.

[@ParadoxGod]

Been loving the GOT and Avatar reactions from yall >.

[@stonedmountainunicorn9532]

Pudgey 4 min in the vid: "I can feel Stannis' love for Shireen you know" Me: "Mh she's gonna feel something alright"

[@boston_kiva]

I love finding new GoT reaction channels, great job you two! And also, we all have a crush on Pudgey 😍

[@Mic-Mak]

18:13 Ellaria definitely changed. In the books she is the exact opposite. She doesn't want revenge at all. She wants peace. It's Oberyn's daughers, the ones he didn't have with Ellaria that want revenge.

[@RayD70]

That, the character assassination of Stannis, Sansa's marriage to Ramsey, and the exclusion of a certain "raised" character altogether is where the show's writing started veering way off course to the books. And why many consider this season the beginning of the end in quality. To be fair, there are many, many great moments, scenes and even episodes coming. But it all feels off overall. The Stannis one rubs most of all. I don't doubt that just may be Shireen's fate. But it won't be by him. She isn't even with him at this point in the story. Stannis wouldn't even agree to burn innocent men in similar circumstances. And he was very loyal to and loved his daughter. The last order we see of him so far in the books is that if he dies, "you will put my daughter, Shireen, on the throne, or die in the attempt." No way he ever agrees to that. He has many faults. This isn't one.

[@jairaj05]

I was so waiting badly for you guys to react to this episode! For a true dany fan this episode was so exciting and epic and huge for dany!!! You guys are so good! Thanks for dropping it today! I needed it badly!

[@olegshevchenko5869]

I really don't like the fighting pits scene. Not simply because it's a major departure from the books, but because it really shows how the show leaves the true way of the Westeros universe behind and becomes this high-budget fairy tale of good versus evil, of magical dragon deus ex machina, of cheap "EPIC" effect that wears off after the first watch as it does not provide any food for your brain. In the books the Sons of the Harpy never attack the fighting pits, it's the blood and the sheer violence of the fighting pits that attracts Drogon. Dany can't stand the violence of the fighting pits and politicially chained position she's in and in comes Drogon, killing and burning hundreds of people alive (including Dany, but she remains unscathed), Dany watches him and she realized that being the mother of dragons is what she is, not the mhysa of slaves and trying to politically outmaneuver the guerilla warfare of the Sons of the Harpy. Which is a lot less black and white than what they have in the show.

[@Hero_Of_Old]

Everyone wants a story of good vs evil no matter what you say, we're all subconciously rooting for Dany and Jon because they are the moral beacons of good. EvEryThIngS GrEy only lasts for so long.

[@olegshevchenko5869]

@@Hero_Of_Old Well, no matter what YOU say, people are different, some find the good vs bad compelling, others find the fine-grained grayness compelling, and still others don't see those two as mutually exclusive. Above all, please don't talk for everyone using words and phrases like "everyone want this", "we're all rooting". People are different. P.S.: funny to see a "grey things are only interesting for so long" rhetoric from Gandlaf the freaking Grey lol xD

[@TopNotchStoner]

It's funny how you guys are shocked to find out that Stannis isn't actually a good person, even after he had his own brother assassinated.

[@zachphillips7997]

Lmao shocked that you think D and D even know what a character is like This is just their bastardized version of the story

[@khaalmalki4039]

Stannis was grey but he would never burn his daughter alive. This just D and D being stupid and wanting shock value from fans. This is just another character assassination.

[@izzyjoshuadavis]

​@@khaalmalki4039 I want to say I saw somewhere that GRRM confirmed that this will happen in his books at one point.

[@zachphillips7997]

@Josh yes by her mother and The red woman Stannis is not even near her and is on the verge of victory against the boltons/freys

[@aaronia8092]

Stannis values duty above family, above the wellbeing of those he loves, etc. He has seen visions in the fire, he is convinced Melisandre is truthful, so he feels obligated to do his duty as Azor Ahai. I'ts also for his men, in his eyes if he doesn't comply with the Lord of Fire's wishes he believes his men will die and it's his responsibility to assure their victory, above his love for his daughter. It's really horrible, his own men despise him for this action, but the show is exploring what a man of that character would do in an extreme situation.

[@Serryy]

Yeah, when people say that D&D didn't understand Stannis as s character, then that scene is ultimate proof.

[@c-mac9902]

This is the only episode where I will fast forward the show or anyone reacting to it. I still have that scream in my head and I can’t get rid of it Years later.

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

That is why the OG Game of Thrones series was so great because there were many stories happening from every parts of that World. House of the Dragon was cool in the way they successfully portrayed this one family and their plight. (and many ways that was the strenght of the show). But GoT you feel the weight of a big great World. It's so much fun.

[@svncerity]

Pudgey saying she could feel Stannis’ love for his daughter 😢 sweet summer child

[@natecloe8535]

From the first time I saw it. I was heartbroken for my favorite character. Davos........a HUGE part of why hes my favorite is specifically his interactions with Princess Shireen. My favorite scene AND the one that put Davos on top for me. Is when Shireen sneaks in to see him in the dungeon and talks him into learning to read. When she dives into her very first lesson about the letters A. E. and G sounding like "egg". Davos just sits there with that loving smile and its clear he already loves her very much. And GOT hit the soundtrack emotional music cue PERFECTLY right there as he watches her. "It makes my .....eh..eh...eyes rain."- Ben Stiller

[@ToySoldierBR]

poor shreen... sr davos loved her more than her parents.. stanis pusshed him away cause he knows he would never agreed with this..

[@gustavobruno1517]

it's so good to see your happiness watching GOT, just imagine if you had watched it back when they released an episode a week

[@Julini89]

to me this episode is even more heartbreaking than the red wedding, simply because Shireen is a completely innocent little kid who has done nothing wrong. her crying out to her parents tears my heart to pieces. There is no excuse for condeeming a kid to burning at the stake.

[@Julini89]

@@williamshelton4318 excatly that poor literally survived the plague to be burnt at the stake it is so horrible, and GoT make feel so real everytime i watch it :D

[@jesses5463]

I'm not 100% convinced that she's completely innocent under the watchful eyes of the Lord of Light.

[@Julini89]

@@jesses5463 that is true there is probably some similarities to between the lord of light and Christianity’s inherited sin. I don’t put much stock in religious teachings though.

[@GeneralGrievousCIS]

If Melisandre is right (won't spoil either way) her excuse would be valid tbh. She believes Stannis is Azor Ahai, the chosen saviour of the world from the others (the White Walkers). He needs to win to live, and he needs to live for the world to be saved. That can only happen with the help of the Lord of Light. To get that help she needs to sacrifice King's Blood. There's only one option available to her in that regard and it's the kid. Sacrifice one child to save the world from the undead? Worth it. Only problem would be if her prophecy was interpreted wrong...

[@Julini89]

@@GeneralGrievousCIS I see your point. Seen from that point of view you are correct I just don’t share it.

[@bmmmaleka]

Poor Sheerin, Stanis from hero to zero

[@JD-bp4hq]

"You pulled the Joker out." You two are the best!

[@abigailmallett9985]

I love Drogon so much. One of my fave bits from the book and show. Its so good in the book too. Means so much because previous dragonriders used spells and enchantments etc to 'control' dragon Dany didnt have any of that. Just used her connection with them

[@rastallano]

*Davos saying goodbye to Shireen* Spartan: "Oh man we all know what goodbyes mean in Game of Thrones.. surely not Game of Thrones, surely this one's too far.." Game of Thrones: 😗🔥

[@tannerthelo-firemix2608]

i joined you guys last summer with the house of the dragon premiere, and i love seeing the way that you guys seeing that show first shapes your experience with game of thrones! the dragon riding scene must’ve been extra-special when you’ve already seen the targs at the height of their power doing this left and right

[@daenerysstormborn]

34:35 it was indeed an ICONIC moment and it continues to be so 🤌🏻 ~ at that moment a Targaryen rode a dragon again for the first time in over one and a half centuries... We all were in tears, happy tears! ♥️♥️♥️

[@MasterOfTheElements]

I maintain that Aemond claiming Vhagar was waay cooler than Dany riding Drogon for the first time.

[@thisisscorpio6024]

An absolutely horrifying scene.

[@react2reactions246]

I’m a big fan of you guys. I think you’re great. My only criticism is that, instead of reacting to things that happen, you try to predict things in advance- and you’re good at it lol. I don’t even know if that’s something controllable, but it makes it a little less fun imo.

[@niaastankova6567]

There are a lot of nasty and hateful characters in the series, but Stannis tops them all. Thanks to this chapter we understand that greatness is earned. It doesn't matter that Stannis is a good warrior, he will always live in the shadow of his brothers. Robert is remembered as a great warrior who made history, Renly was humble and kind, generating admiration with just his presence, while Stannis is just a greedy and infamous poor man impossible to respect.

[@BramVanhooydonck]

Shireen's burning is such a good portrayal of extremism. People who were convinced so much they'd do anything and encourage those around them to do the same, only to get a wake-up-call when it's too late, and be forced by those around them. Its a very common thing in history to be deluded upto the point of no return, especially when it comes to war.

[@izzyjoshuadavis]

I should not be smiling this hard at every bad thing that happens in these reaction videos that have you both upset but I can't help it. 😂😂😂 RIP Shireen.

[@alexgimenezr]

You are totally right guys! Watching Danny fly over drogon after 5 seasons for the First time back in the day were a big thing! Interesting You getting excited about It since youre used to flying targaryens by house of the dragon! Love both of You

[@KSDVLmom]

My fav quote "You have a good heart Jon Snow. It'll get US ALL killed"

[@corgiluver9718]

Now you know why Stannis will never be on the love or like list for those of us that have watched the show. IMO the hardest scene to watch in all of GOT. And the pit scene with Dany first rides a dragon was one of the most stirring passages from the book. It is stirring in the show also but somewhat more muted because I still had not recovered from Shireen's death.

[@Mikael_Puusaari]

GoT always surprises u, Shireens mother was the one in the end that was humane and came to her senses when Stannis lost it, power corrupts I love that about GoT, there are many such similarities with real life where u never really know a person until their person is put to the ultimate test and their true nature is revealed Loved it that Tyrion was present when Daenerys took her first flight on Drogon, he must've thought it happens all the time 🙂

[@ProdAGee]

23:50 - ALMOST to the degree of madness? He just watched his daughter burn alive. I'd say madness is an understatement.

[@Loked420]

I went to a GoT themed quiz night the week after this episode aired, and there were several teams with hilariously tasteless names referencing Shireen's death. Still proud of the name we came up with though, "White Walker, Texas Ranger".

[@17cjavy]

That ending is just goosebumps every time

[@irelandspacifist6156]

There are a lot of parallels between Stannis and Shakespeare's MacBeth

[@BoredOnlineBoardOffline]

This episode represents the hardest U-Turn I’ve ever taken on a character (Stanis). I’ve never been so firmly in favor of a character (in any television or movie) and then in a matter of seconds become so firmly opposed as I did following the events here. On a separate note, gray scale is HIGHLY infectious IF you touch the gray scale itself. Something like 99% chance you catch it if you touch it.

[@DrewDragoon]

That's because it was bad writing. Stannis would never have done this to his daughter in the books. It's actual character assassination and a real shame

[@TheInvoker78]

So...Stannis good father. To be fair, Shireen would have died even if they didn't kill her with fire. Stannis would have lost the battle and everyone would die, or you think Ramsay would have spare Shireen only because she's a child?

[@Silver_Owl]

Shireen could have been got away - she could have left with Davos. Stannis is responsible for Shireen's death.

[@Jon.A.Scholt]

Do they remember it was Meryn Trant who killed Syrio?

[@rayous5480]

I just now realized how much inspiration the end scene got from Star wars Episode 2 Attack of the Clones with the geonosian arena, just edit in lightsabers and its a mini version of the movie :P

[@cynicnd]

I was always very neutral on Stannis. Until this episode.

[@1siddynickhead]

I'm blown away by how INTUITIVE And spot on Pudgey has been throughout the show 🎉🎉 hats off to you girl!! You're a discerning reactor! No disrespect to Spartan 😂 but Pudgey picks up on EVERYTHING

[@marcosrodrigues2499]

Props to Shireen's actress. Her screamings were a lot convincing and heartbreaking. Definitely one of the nastiest death in the show

[@exploringgames948]

All caught up now! This episode was a roller coaster but I gotta say I appreciate Pudgey and her emotions throughout the reactions, it's a good contrast between the two of you. This show was so good it was sad to see it end, but I'm glad you guys are enjoying the series so much and I'm looking forward to more reactions! Once you guys are done with this series, maybe you can check out The Expanse (I've seen it over a dozen times and probably the best scifi show out there) maybe The 100 after that?

[@NathTMcC]

Stanis didn’t have his honour for the whole series imo. You can’t just blame Malisandre for burning people, he has been enabling her the entire time.

[@kbaylor123]

What an intersection perspective having seen HotD before seeing the scene of Dany riding the dragon for the first time!