GAME SINS | Everything Wrong With Watch Dogs: Legion

[@gonnegottkehaskamp1667]

The biggest sin of this game for me is that the recruits can be the most normal Person, but as soon as they are DedSec, they have NO PROBLEM AT ALL with becoming the most hardcore criminals, beating up people, stealing cars and outright KILLING in the regular. I would have liked some mechanic where some characters refuse to commit some felonies. So that you can only do Hardcore stuff with hitmen, spies or thugs.

[@victorwagner2423]

What is This, some kind of War Of Mine?

[@emarythomp]

Right? Like some are well off in life with a decent job and shit then they ask you to do a small favor for them and all of a sudden they become killing machines LMAO like ok man throw your life away because I helped you get over your ex

[@agrey832]

Glad *someone* gets it!!

[@ZombfectedGaming349]

Lol it’s the typical Player Possessing someone into what the player wants them to do.

[@fenrisvermundr2516]

The game would've benefited from being able to create your own character instead. And then recruiting characters through side missions, or let us make extra characters maybe even let us establish relationships. Because if every single person is like this then they deserve the system they have.

[@emarythomp]

What I don’t get is why it’s so hype that you can play as anyone?? Like cool I can play as that car salesman down the street or a grandma walking to her next bingo session. I just don’t see a point. I never had an issue with playing one character

[@agrey832]

Just a new gimmick to try out I suppose 🤔

[@simondayward9168]

Yeah, what​ @agrey832 said. I, too, miss the character-development plot of a single protagonist

[@Lonewolf360gaming]

At first it sounded cool but in execution it's nothing all that special

[@fenrisvermundr2516]

The point they tried to make was this was supposed to be the people rising up. It failed. The game would've actually been better if they just let us make our own character, or a few.

[@mattishidayeo]

@@fenrisvermundr2516 IMO The concept would have been executed much better if it employed a Mass Effect like party system, but that would be hard to implement properly considering the stealth components of the game.

[@jameswest6232]

Ironically, I think Watch Dogs could be a great game if it worked a bit more like AC1. Specifically, setting up the mission, learning about your target, and securing an escape route. Throw in some fun, real world hacker tricks like social engineering and RFID implants and you could make a solid cyber-punk heist game.

[@daneray9594]

That sounds really interesting.

[@annadidathingy2832]

That made me think about Deathloop for some reason.

[@sayxxdx]

That's initially what I expected this series to direct itself to. Instead, it's a repeat formula with very little interesting story. Honestly, at least the first Watch Dogs was more serious in tone. The second game's story is so boring I legitimately can't remember what it was about. I just remember bad car mechanics and hipster vibes.

[@emarythomp]

@@sayxxdx wait I actually can’t either LMAO all I can remember is the first few cutscenes, the car driving scene, and that’s it... I don’t even remember the antagonist of the story LMAO

[@jameswest6232]

@@emarythomp I think he was that really weird hipster Silicon-Valley CEO. At least this game had better antagonists in Skye Larsen and Malik...now if only they actually mattered

[@cardoso1313]

I don’t usually see this videos before playing the game and finishing the story but this one I really don’t care so I just gonna watch it

[@jimmygunzo1904]

I stopped caring about this game when it kept crashing after and hour of play all the time and it got worse the further into the game I got and now it’s unplayable with 4 missions left

[@gabrielarchambault8034]

@@jimmygunzo1904 your pc must be shit then cause it hasnt crashed once on my ps4 ;)

[@TheRealEl_Bozo]

@@gabrielarchambault8034 specifically the pc version is crashing a lot meaning the port is not good. It’s widespread issue on pc and isn’t fixed by getting a better pc.

[@agrey832]

Same here

[@marcinf6324]

Same :D

[@Cash_Mambo]

I’m surprised someone was able to play through all of legion given the constant crashing

[@cannibalbunnygirl]

I've only had 1 crash on ps4. Must be lucky

[@frankietowers1130]

The crashes should have warranted +10 or +20 sins

[@TheGLORY13]

@@cannibalbunnygirl Mine crashed 4 times and it would randomly start to just drop frames to the point of freezing (only game doing it for me) Even ubisofts very own AC Valhalla is working just fine with no issues

[@mikehock1753]

My game crashes every 15 min on the dot

[@rarestpepe3815]

@@cannibalbunnygirl You call that luck?

[@1337ijs]

One thing that continues to bother me about Watch Dogs: the very first game seemed to be setting up a through-line future-of-the-series plot hook over the course of the entire game with Blume and ctOS. How they were using the system to secretly monitor everyone's private lives, and were planning to do SOMETHING clearly nefarious and sci-fi-dystopic with all the behavioral information they were covertly gathering. It SEEMED to be setting up that plot, but nothing happened with an actually clever and timely sequel hook even after two more games. Hell, learning how much of our lives and opinions can be influenced by search engine and advertising algorithms after our own actual collective behavioral data has been harvested and sold to the highest bidders in the last few years, returning to that abandoned plot hook would've been even more timely than a weird psuedo-brexit-sorta-criticism.

[@X_Blake]

7:58 pretty bold considering Tencent owns 5% of their company.

[@MaidenWithEyesOfBlue384]

but a brave and correct statement!

[@GlennDavey]

I just used this game as a London tourist simulator, to visit all the places I saw when I was there 12 years ago, and really enjoyed it from that perspective. But probably wouldn't have liked it so much without that.

[@Lazurath101]

Ubisoft should just make place reenactment simulators at this point, it’s all they seem to be good for

[@heartless604]

London looks nothing like what this game shows, which is AMAZING! Since ubisoft usually get it dead right!

[@GlennDavey]

@@heartless604 that’s not true at all, some places I compared with my actual photos from there and it looked very close. The tower bridge, the imperial war museum, certain streets around Camden i could squint and it was spot on.

[@sodium7127]

​@@heartless604 I disagree, London is only thing Legion got right

[@CsubAzUrmedve]

The only reason I was even remotely interested in this game was the fact that you can kick ass with a granny. That's so stupid it's good.

[@simondayward9168]

A pity the elderly are so slow in-game.

[@jordangarcia465]

@@simondayward9168 I mean, that's kinda how the elderly work after all

[@Sorain1]

Prototype did a better job at that IMO.

[@toddstone230]

@@Sorain1 we need another sequel to that game

[@Sorain1]

@@toddstone230 I couldn't accept what they did with the plot in the 'second one'. Don't take me through a character arc like that and throw it away to spit on my face about it. That's not fun. That said, another game in the line would be nice to have, but then so would a spiritual sequel to Hulk Ultimate Destruction.

[@poutine8741]

the main sin is that they killed not James Bond at the start of the game Edit: I think he could be a protagonist just on the fact that we play as him and he has a voice

[@cremilar]

The horrendous voice acting is the worst thing about it. Fake British accents galore. Awful.

[@wjbushjr]

THEY WERE FAKED!?!?

[@IllMatic97]

I doubt those are fake

[@M4tth2w]

exactly my thought

[@twinodoom]

Now wait just a second, that's not accurate. Not all of them were British accents.

[@courtzfrancis8104]

London is one of the most multicultural countries in the world, and they've just used stereotype East end accents. Not just that but the slang and language is so cringe sometimes 😬

[@MrAdamFC]

Here's a very British sin. Clan Kelly's slaves are apparently living off the dole (welfare payment ) And yet they go unnoticed by the Government and the general public. Has ubisoft ever been to England ? The dole is relentless if this game was accurate Clan Kelly would spend half the time ringing up the job centre and trying to explain why their slaves cant take part in a call centre course next Tuesday and why they'll have to reschedule their appointment despite getting more letters than Santa Claus pushed through the door on a weekly basis.

[@teslashark]

Must be an insult about Ireland

[@dumbsow9420]

An extremely petty one for me is the fact too is that in England we call it lift not elevator but in the game it's always called elevator

[@MrAdamFC]

@@dumbsow9420 ha you're right. Also if I'm being very petty. I like how in a game set in England there's no Geordies or anyone northern. I guess in the watch dogs universe the rest of the country just died ( that's to my knowledge I don't know if they patched it with more accents later on down the line)

[@ПётрКвилкин]

Ah, Ubisoft games. Half-political and half-assed, as usual.

[@torre1451]

this game suffers from the same sickness assassins' creed, metal gear and dead rising suffer(ed) from; their original creators and writers were canned for some reason and the guys that replaced them(typical of writers ) desperate to make someone else's IP their own by adding their 'unique' take/ point of view fucked it up so bad to the point no one knew what they were looking at anymore. Its like hiring a house sitter to simply house sit while your'e away only to return and find them having repainted, moved your furniture around, knocked some walls down e.t.c

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

Ah, at least I could play as a Socalist Furry. Worth playing in my opinion.

[@ADTillion]

@@anthonyharris5282 Better yet, pay them nothing.

[@cybercery5271]

They rush too much they should actually spend some more time perfecting a game Under all the things that most people hate These are great games with amazing potential

[@Texelion]

They still claim their games are NOT political.

[@blackcitadel9]

The SIRS Home Office liaison wasn't a lesbian in my playthrough, she was straight. Either she's the opposite of whatever gender you first approach her as or it's random.

[@Scifiguy177]

Same. Mine was straight and the operative I approached her as was female. But could still be random.

[@allopic3764]

It's funny that my SIRS officer was lesbian but when i deep-profiled her it said that she had a boyfriend lmao

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

@@allopic3764, that’s because Ubisoft seems to think that bisexual and pansexual don’t exist, and they think that people are either gay, straight, or lesbian.

[@allopic3764]

@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr i think they just didn’t think about it and the profiler randomised it that’s all, still, that was weird to see

[@allopic3764]

@Incapacitated Londoner ctos should know it tho, it has cameras everywhere

[@goodguycam4878]

I wish there were "expeditions" of sorts where you can choose 4 of your operatives for the mission and switch between them

[@--jefree--]

The dumb thing ubisoft overlooked in this game is the fact that if you find a really good character you juts keep playing as them, making the play as anyone redundant. Was really let down by WDL, it also ran like shit.

[@zakanyimen]

It isnot overlooked. It is the inherit flaw of recruit games.There is no point handle them after a handful of usefull recruits that you can powerlevel.

[@mandrovasab4335]

This is what I’ve tried telling people who seem to praise this games recruit system. It becomes completely redundant once you find a recruit you actually like since you have no reason to play any other recruits the only 3 recruits you need are a hacker, hitman/spy or a construction worker. Once you have those 3 I guarantee you don’t need any other recruits because the game isn’t that difficult either.

[@zakanyimen]

@@mandrovasab4335 Also ubisoft is very careful about making every mission possible with every character but that runs in to the same issue. If every chacter is capable of doing it why even bother choosing (not counting cheese tactics)

[@EduardoTorelly]

it isnt as black and white, there are characters who are better at the backstage like medics who can heal faster your woulded characters whey they are badly woulded or advocates who can free imprisioned characters from jail. of course, you can just recruit a ton of good characters and get the upgrades that manipulate the drones that the game starts to trow at you in the later game.

[@GlennDavey]

You get to choose your own main character and customize them. This isn't a bad thing

[@drakron]

I going to say, I liked the first Watch Dogs but Ubisoft apparently thought it was the tone that was wrong with the game despite being pretty much the best part of the game and changed it completely for the second and this one looks half political and the other half half-assed.

[@cannibalbunnygirl]

This one isn't as gritty as 1 but nowhere as pandering as 2

[@Anonymous-xt8zu]

@@cannibalbunnygirl so it's in the middle?

[@cannibalbunnygirl]

@@Anonymous-xt8zu thats the short answer. This game will show people that in Britain, we don't mind a paragraph when a sentence would've done

[@reallyhimongod]

The story for 2 was uninteresting, however, mechanics wise, fantastic game! Parkour, gun play, combat, driving, exploration all shit on Legions

[@Donbros]

I enjoyed first one the most second was kinda ok

[@yer_pall_memes4799]

Love how they made the Albion boss human, really enjoyed it when he hopped out of the tank and died to a single easily placed head shot

[@AstarionWifey]

What I miss is being able to see the NPCs text messages or listen in on their calls like in WD2 T_T that alone gave the NPCs more personalities

[@jordangarcia465]

God, literally every voice actor was insufferable. The Mary Kelly trafficker lady was the most cringeworthy performance ever. What kinda accent even was that??

[@M4tth2w]

Someone in Ubisoft watched some older episodes of Eastenders lol

[@ViviCaligo]

The second I knew it was set in London I was put off the game, not every brit is all 'Oi luv shuv it up ya gaf.'.

[@sebastianriz4703]

For whatever reason it made me think of Cars 2 where Mator fucks his way up into becoming a british spy and everyome has an English accent.

[@zoomagcookies6604]

the big issue is that they recorded the same lines with ~20 actors, then they used ai to modulate the voices and make more combinations. honestly the fact that the characters, their appearances, and their voices are all computer generated doesn't sit right with me. there's no compelling well-developed personalities like wd2 (and even wd1 to a lesser extent)

[@eliasharris9349]

Am I the only one who noticed that saying "DeadSec's" Sounds a little too much like "DeadSex"?

[@olzhas1one755]

They did joke about it in Watch_Dogs 2

[@imthemetalguy1]

Which is fitting because this game is like having sex with a corpse. You're gonna feel bad about it

[@ninjartist36]

Necrophilia intensifies

[@TheHufflepuffSaint]

I always thought DedSec would be an acronym for something. Clearly not as WD2 and WDL have shown that it's clearly DedSec. At least the real life inspiration Hacker Collective use a better name with "Anonymous."

[@simondayward9168]

@@TheHufflepuffSaint It stands for "Dead Security". Not that anyone asked.

[@farmerwithshotgun1293]

I swear ubisoft has game journalists on their payroll

[@KornyeEast]

As writers

[@galacticreggie]

What does that mean? Is there an issue or meme I'm not aware of?

[@0v_x0]

@@galacticreggie the fact that mainstream gaming press tends to praise them even after a decade of making basically the same games over and over and poorly prioritizing their devolvement. With a lot of terrible writing, errors and bugs and going in a direction of arbitrary completionism to fluff out "open worlds" with increasingly less actual player agency, so they can hamfist their bad writing. Like far cry 5 can't even be beaten, both endings are a loss. It's just another map full of bases to claim and silly collectables and side quests that are just excuses for minigames, occasionally interrupted by an immutable, heavy handed story the player has zero effect on whatsoever. I couldn't bring myself to finish it. Far cry 3 was fun cuz it felt new, even though I hated the plot. The cringeful "edgy" stories just got worse and more forced for basically exactly the same game mechanics, which are no longer near enough foundation for the whole shambles of a franchise to stand on. Or the sad anticlimax of the watch dogs property as seen here. TL;DR they kinda suck (also fuck Origin DRM), yet are hailed in the press as on the forefront of gaming innovation even though they haven't really innovated in like ten years. That's my take anyway.

[@muffin2147]

@@0v_x0 Farcry: Best ending is always the secret one at the very beginning.

[@velvetsky3451]

27:14 the dedsec operative in the first game says “we will be the watchdogs” on the news broadcast during the credits scene. or when they talk to aiden in “sometimes you still lose”. pretty sure it’s the former.

[@00naruhina]

As a listener of Zero Punctuation for over a decade, I can really tell which lines Yahtzee was involved in. The cadence in unmistakable.

[@kenbee1957]

Also the lack of punctuation?

[@Warfolomei]

I am just so tired playing for the rebels, can't we have a couple proper Empire stories T,T Good review as always. Gotta leave the choice for others though, because Miles and Valhalla are something I am actually interested in playing.

[@pineapplethief4418]

valhalla is grindy (worst in the entire series in this regard) slugfest with shitty outdated combat and copy-paste quests. Sorry.

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

@Incapacitated Londoner Yeah true. Beyond 40K players, who WANTS to play as authoriatarian bad guys?

[@teo2157]

@@jakespacepiratee3740rather play as them rather than "rebels" who manage to act more like terrorists than the people they are fighting

[@pyner0s496]

The only active decision you get to make had NO EFFECT on game... AND SHE DIES EITHER WAY...🤦🏿‍♂️

[@firuzmajid4780]

Killing Skye, or turning her into a washing machine AI None of these options matter

[@kway5169]

Yea it’s not supposed to matter

[@pyner0s496]

@@kway5169 if I had 1 major decision event that could matter enough to add reply value... (alt ending, secret character, hidden extension of gameplay) I would deff make sure it mattered. Too many variables for it not to.

[@wjbushjr]

The fact that this game doesn’t have aiden and the dlc comes later is boring

[@J__T]

Yeah, I really hated the first game's plot and Aiden's relationship with his family, but I really liked Aiden. I know he's essentially a Batman or Roschach rip off, but I still think he's really cool.

[@Isoye]

@@J__T The first game has the best story

[@J__T]

@@Isoye Only because the other two barely have a story.

[@Isoye]

@@J__T That is why I’m not getting wdl because they don’t even care about the story anymore

[@J__T]

@@Isoye Yeah, I get that. Mostly getting it just for the DLC characters and (since Datigan said) some nostalgic gameplay.

[@NMHTelevision]

Wasn’t expecting this so fast.

[@nanananaxhhd4330]

i was expecting a video about little hope before this

[@SGeeeDubb]

I wasn't surprised haha he came out with the TLOU2 vid super quick as well.

[@simondayward9168]

@@nanananaxhhd4330 Soon

[@twinodoom]

From what I've seen of the readable info in Sabine's evil lair, her motivations were similar to one of the Dave's from Watchdogs Bad Blood. She stands for the radical foundation of the older Dedsec, and wants to destroy the CTOS as a whole instead of using it. She had her allies killed because they didn't follow it's original principles of dismantling the system instead of just fighting against it. They certainly could of done a better job integrating that into the her actual dialogue instead of leaving her with vague lines that don't touch upon her motivation. Better yet, they could have given us a choice to decide if we want to help her or work against her. Makes more sense than choosing to let Skye Larsen live.

[@vermilliontoaster3063]

Dartigan, my man. I’ve binged nearly entire channel. Thank you and you’re hilarious!

[@simondayward9168]

Dart says you're welcome.

[@anthonyortiz3142]

Mary Kelly has the makings of a Far Cry villain.

[@jameswest6232]

That's kinda what I thought. All the other villains, even Cass, at least feel like they have a place in the story or world (which is odd since 2 of them are red-hearings). Mary Kelly is just the typical villain psycho that just makes you wonder why literally anyone would work for her when she's clearly deranged with ZERO charisma

[@inserisciunnome]

@@jameswest6232 if She has 0 charisma, She can't be like a far Cry villain. Those games RELY on the villain. The bad guy Is literally the First person the players sees in the trailers, not the protagonist.

[@cdgonepotatoes4219]

I feel like it's going to be a lot of typing at the wind but I wanted to get my piece of mind spelt out on a possible way Ubi could've made the Legion thing work: MAIN CHARACTERS - They're there and they're playable, but playing as one is like setting a campfire in a fireworks factory due to the strict security systems around the city and heat being almost impossible to shake off once you get it unless you run off in a shelter, so for the most part you're coerced into recruiting people who are able to walk around freely. In some parts of the story you will be forced to play them in order to have a character progression, mostly to act on a personal matter or inner circle business RESTRICTIONS MAKE BETTER CHARACTERS - Each operative is made more human by applying more or less restrictions on what they're willing to do for the cause, the easiest recruits to find generally have the most restrictions being unable of committing certain crimes and exposing themselves too much while the rarest are completely unrestricted in the actions they can do but other particularities are imposed onto them that restrict you from free roaming too long with them TIME IS IMPORTANT - Time is a mechanic now and one of those particularities I mentioned, some operatives will be unavailable for use at certain times of the day to at least imitate the fact people tend not to throw their lives away the moment they're boarded by some activist. The clock will run slower to allow you more time with a single operative and if you start a mission time limitations aren't counted but the potential introduction of time sensitive quests or time of day-based events will still make sure to make time relevant RECRUITMENT - To find a possible recruit in an area you either move up and down until you find a possible applicant or, well, activate a tower and you're periodically updated on new recruits. When you activate the recruitment process you're indicated to approach the person and give them a call, after the introductions you can decide to either control the character trough the recruitment process (randomized depending by their job occupation and skills) or auto-resolve and if they succeed they're good for use after 3 days to simulate Dedsec passing them trough their field guide WHAT TO KEEP - Some special recruits won't be put in a trial but rather Dedsec already knows their abilities (former MI6, expert hackers or militants), this has you accomplish favors for them like what's already in the game, similar in size to one of the favors you do for Raymond in the first SPECIAL RECRUITS - As mentioned above, these rare characters all have a significant story behind them and so are also held with greater regards in the number of voice lines they have and they're addressed by. Some may have a history with the Government and Albion which translates into you receiving side objectives when doing a mission to fullfill some of their interests SPICE THINGS UP - Like how you can invade the privacy of random civilians and hear their calls/read their messages, your operatives as you use them may happen to receive calls or messages partly to give them a soul and to also try and keep you entertained during low times (or high times, imagine being called by your wife in the middle of a chase and hearing your character try to find an excuse to discuss them later or maybe their phone rings in the middle of stealth) MERCS AND FIXERS - If you can't complete a mission with the operatives you have recruited and don't have the patience to find one but you do have a lot of money, you can hire a number of named fixers to complete some content. They have their own equipment, are paid by the hour and starting a mission with them also carries an added cost, completing a mission has them call it a day forcing you to swap away from them, and swapping from them will put you on a cooldown from calling them again MISSION FAILURES AND GETTING CAUGHT - Outside of crucial story missions, the game doesn't reload to a previous save in the case of failure but rather they will be apprehended and you will lose them permanently unless you have another operative that's able to, say, bust them out of the hospital from Albion surveillance or one of your other ops just so happens to be in proximity for them to intervene. If a fixer gets apprehended there's a 50-50 chance for them to be unavailable to call again until you complete the main story line, after that they will simply go on a very long cooldown and temporarily increase their employment price - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Something will also have to be done to give a reason for things to remain the same in the post-game, the idea of the war between Albion and Dedsec being unending with multiple randomized events still popping up is one, you don't want to risk having people 100% the game and then have nothing to do before they're even able to get halfway trough making their legion. There's also to point out the game is a train wreck in multiple areas, being unaccomplished in its main gimmick is only a small sin in all this and overall the game would've still been disappointing even with all these touches. The villains aren't in any way realistic, the stakes are so artificial the game feels like a saturday morning cartoon rather than a disturbingly realistic dystopia like the one represented in Watch Dogs 1 and 2, the logic behind it all is deeply flawed and you would need to delete a lot of the things which were said in the earlier titles for many things to make sense and they would still struggle a lot in doing so. Improving the "Legion" system would have at the very least made the game interesting due to this main gimmick but that's not the case.

[@Chikadulce10]

CDgonePotatoes Honestly, a way better concept that what was actually given to us!

[@matthewgonzalez2727]

Loved all of this; well said!

[@josuepviana]

Oh boy this is going to be good.

[@josuepviana]

Seeing how its a private security force using a terrorist threat/attack to rise and take control of a city (could have been the UK) really gave me COD Advanced Warfare flashbacks... sadly this game doesnt have a charismactic villain like Spacey.

[@landismithCOJ]

REAL GOOD

[@thennafish]

sin removal 43-42 was honestly the best summary of the game. There is so much wrong with it and so much wasted potential, and it is made so much worse by the revelation half way through that they could have made something really cool if they didn't stash the interesting stuff away into 1.5 missions

[@raimiallpowerful2020]

I played it with Aiden (who I love because he's pretty much punisher and I love punisher) and wrench (who's wrench) mainly Aiden because he had awesome abilities and to me the story made sense with him. The moment with Sabine where he kills her fits with Aiden. Doing this take back the city thing. It's stupid that a car salesman or janitor could be the one to do that badass shit.

[@azariathenerd6408]

I played it with Aiden too because he's my favourite and the phone trick he did at the end of Watch Dogs Legion to kill Sabine was a cool flashback to the ending of Watch Dogs one. I also edited Aiden to make him look younger like Watch Dogs one hahaha XD

[@capthavic]

3:20 And even the job classes/tech don't really matter much because there's usually cargo drone or spider bot summoning spot nearby. Picking the right character for a job was basically pointless as they all played essentially the same. And let's not even get started on how dumb it is that Dedsec recruits any random schmuck off the streete, all of whom need barely any coaxing and completley trustworthy not to rat them out instead.

[@Skonris]

Funny you mention an old man being given the SIRS phone, as I had my grandma character do that mission. When the phone was placed on the table she immediately said "I've already moved past flip phones you cheeky bastard!" Also, they name dropped the title of the game in the last mission of the first game.

[@jafarrylan4283]

ubisoft in nutshell : one step forward 10 to the back

[@skynet0912]

Albions drone plan you spy on them to figure out, is literally the plot of Captain America Winter Soldier!

[@antjuandreecton4441]

This game still has the groups come after you with guns if you don’t have one in a restricted area and the drones are even worse

[@Gruntvc]

So, if you don't buy the game, minus one million sins? Go for double and don't buy Assassin's Creed Valhalla either.

[@omarnewman691]

yea the ending suck and kinda piss you off

[@sayxxdx]

Valhalla isn't too bad. I expected it to be like Origins, but it's actually fun.

[@omarnewman691]

@@sayxxdx yea it fun until the end which piss me off

[@sayxxdx]

@@omarnewman691 OH story wise? I don't expect much from ubisoft at this point. It's always the same formula.

[@OversoulGaming]

Assassin's Creed Valhalla is actually a huge improvement over Odyssey. It doesn't have an overwhelming map with a bunch of useless padding and it balances the best elements of old and new Assassin's Creed games. Dartigan probably won't give it credit for that though. Ever since Kingdom Hearts he's just been overly cynical to every game he's played. I miss when this used to be more satirical like CinemaSins, now it's mostly just bitching for the sake of bitching

[@tairyu2574]

Can’t wait to get this game with a 75% sale

[@kyothewraith1255]

Yup. That's the only way to justify buying a Ubisoft game honestly.

[@someguy8805]

That'll happen in like 3 months lmao

[@ccxgamerlynx]

They only way I’ll get this game is if it’s free on psn

[@ccxgamerlynx]

They only way I’ll get this game is if it’s free on psn

[@DestroyerApollyon]

Dedsec said “we will be your watchdogs” at the climax of the first game, so one of your sins at least is void Edit: typo

[@jordangarcia465]

Well if he didn't remember it the moment must've not been that memorable - just like the Watch_Dogs series in general.

[@stormichow5325]

@@jordangarcia465 It was still an incorrect sin either way. The OP had a fair criticism of the video.

[@topdown13]

Thank you, I'm glad someone finally else pointed out that despite it's flaws Watch_Dogs 1 was a good starting point to what could have been a good or even great franchise but was hit with the Unity treatment and instead of building on what they had they ditched it and 180 the whole thing. Hopefully on day Ubisoft sell the ip so a developer company who actually cares and can put effort and love into it will make watch dogs what it could be.

[@LordNexusTheFir]

You forgot among the crashes the audio desync that bleeds into other games if u dont restart your system. Only happens with Legion & for a bit Valhalla.

[@Hellion2082]

Here‘s my problem with these Gaming Sins videos. Quite a lot of the reasons are valid, especially the story holes (for example, Malik leading DedSec along while actively suspecting them to be Zaro Day). But some others seem like nit-picking elements that could be explained with a little imagination. For example, Sabine going along with Malik‘s story about suspecting rogue SIRS agents or Emma Child to be affiliated with Zero Day. Logically, she wouldn‘t try to do anything to stop a red herring that was convenient for her. It keeps DedSec occupied on someone else, while she could be working on something else in the background.

[@shr1mpsush1]

Man, I never thought I'd see Selfcest come up in a Dartigan video.

[@sirragno1923]

What is Selfcest?

[@shr1mpsush1]

@@sirragno1923 Essentially, it's sleeping with yourself, but VERY literal. Honestly.

[@sirragno1923]

@@shr1mpsush1 That's... Disgusting.

[@shr1mpsush1]

@@sirragno1923 Yeah, it's kinda interesting what kinda things people are into.

[@sirragno1923]

@@shr1mpsush1 Crazy times man. Crazy times.

[@TheCoolbox1]

They reused the plot of the slave auction from the first game. Lucky Quinn-Mary Kelly. Both elderly crime lords Chicago South Club-Clan Kelly. Both almost run the entire city the game takes place in. Both abduct people and erase their public records from the CTOS system. Both auctions get taken down in about 3 or so missions and aren’t mentioned again despite being quite gruesome and important.

[@ninjartist36]

"The only thing that worked was selecting to uninstall the game"

[@landismithCOJ]

Ubisoft games result in great Dartigan videos.

[@mugoftoothpaste1507]

I personally think the game would've been better if Dalton was the main character he was pretty interesting

[@Hellion2082]

Here‘s my problem with these Gaming Sins videos. Quite a lot of the reasons are valid, especially the story holes (for example, Malik leading DedSec along while actively suspecting them to be Zero Day). But some others seem like nit-picking elements that could be explained with a little imagination. For example, Sabine going along with Malik‘s story about suspecting rogue SIRS agents or Emma Child to be affiliated with Zero Day. Logically, she wouldn‘t try to do anything to stop a red herring that was convenient for her. It keeps DedSec occupied with someone else, while she could be working on her own agenda in the background.

[@v0rtexbeater]

4:13 *ding* Dartigan says "algorithmically" but the subtitles say "arithmetically"

[@simondayward9168]

He was in a bit of a rush to get this vid out. Forgive him.

[@bando1519]

They finna do this game like assassins’ creed

[@FuseiRogu]

I think WatchDogs could get away with the line of site by saying the phones they use are limited in their range, so they have to be closer to what they have to hack. Also, they could have a system where you have access to a computer that allows you to have access to the entire city, but you need to access it with your phone so you can unlock it for computer access.

[@Salty_Bass]

5:46 all the citizens of London in Watch Dogs Legion have government mandated optics installed that is the little micro chip on the side of all the characters heads. They mention it multiple times in the game.

[@colmoe]

8:12 You're going to lose social credit points for saying this. That aside, THANK YOU. Thank you for being someone who'll call these companies out for being "brave" with their attempted political rhetoric while also being nigh offensive to those they may or may not think they're "bravely" taking a stance for. God help us if they donated money to those causes (whoops, I guess they wouldn't be able to sell their games there anymore!). That'd require, oh what's this, a spine. They did this in Watch Dogs 2 aswell, taking DedSec from something related to actual terrorists to an all-inclusive college campus social group. (Personally I think a evil organization that is inclusive, ala the Galactic Empire in SW w/Rae Sloane, is more compelling)

[@SlyDante]

You're not wrong to call out Ubisoft's hypocrisy (especially given what's been revealed this year), but there's just one problem: The game doesn't actually use social credit systems in its plot, at all. I have no idea where Dartigan got that from. And neither is the "European Processing Centre" a metaphor for China's treatment of the Uighur Muslims, but rather an anvilicious take on the Brexit-induced treatment of Europeans & immigrants, & the general xenophobia of people wanting them out of Britain (and it's both extremely blatant & half-assed, given this commentary never factors into the main plot at all, see Not Tonight instead for a better game that handles this scenario). I mentioned this elsewhere, but alas, it's Dartigan committing the same sin as the game: Putting the blame on someone else instead of actually addressing the issue.

[@pyner0s496]

No respect lost... great comment!

[@jmp_jayperproductions]

Another sin: if Malik wanted to take down ded sec, and he infiltrated them to do it, why not inform Albion who’s in ded sec, and pass on other Intel that would make it impossible for ded sec to continue to operate

[@DJC3PO]

Forcing the player to make a choice that literally doesn't matter, without at the very least trying to make it profound (looking at you Bioshock), deserves more than 1 sin.

[@giguyjoe]

7:27 Years later and this aspect of the game's story is the one that probably aged the worst. Anyone non-caucasian who comes into the UK illegally gets free money, a free place to stay, and near full diplomatic immunity. Hell if you want proof of this, go look at the Dublin riots, the reason people got that angry in the first place, and then the Irish government's response to it.

[@ln5321]

Are these real British voice actors? The accents all sound like me doing a bad fake British accent, but I'm not British and can't say for sure that these are fake accents.

[@davide3pop]

6:48 so you're saying the crashes were a regular thing for other players I thought it was just mine

[@joesjoeys]

12:45 Love your vids but youre mixing up hacking with phishing. Hacking is literally about 'hacking' apart protective code and protocols to gain entry into otherwise secure computer systems. (Its more searching millions of lines of code for weaknesses) Phishing is sending out hundreds of emails and hoping to 'catch' some dummy who opens and believes the email to be accurate and falls for 'the bait'.

[@simondayward9168]

I've always wondered why people thought hacking would be cool to add to stories, when it's so boring IRL

[@sigurdcz6241]

17:53 The czech city is called Ostrava, not Ostrave. Is it so hard for Ubisoft to write that name correctly if they made effort to put it in the game?

[@imperialone8526]

I mean it looks like a normal day in England

[@lawrenceporter6301]

You neglected to mention the fact that quite a few of the "non-lethal" takedowns are in fact VERY lethal

[@Skul1ManEXE]

Non-lethal takedown. Proceeds to snap a dude's neck.

[@nathanliu5261]

I'm just put off by the Southern and caricature cockney accents alone.

[@totalcreativegaming6681]

I suppose also when it comes to the final mission where you race through London while the city around you goes to sh*t, is that how come Zero Day/ Sabine didn’t get Bagley to hack the “protagonist’s” car to run it off the road? She had multiple chances to kill off the “main protagonist” and complete her goal of a “Hard Reset” but decided to let you be able to have full control of a vehicle, that could easily be digitally hijacked, to get to Blume Tower and confront her? Plot Armour I suppose

[@ianp1986]

The woman you have to seduce wasn’t a lesbian in my playthrough. I tried with a woman first and she turned me down and it said I should try with a man

[@Hiddden808s]

Also it doesn’t make sense to attend the team meetings just to drive back to the area you were just in

[@imthemetalguy1]

I stopped playing anything ubisoft after assassin's creed 3. I'm glad I saved myself hundreds of dollars with not buying their games

[@matthieuleperlier251]

You're not missing out on much

[@imthemetalguy1]

@@matthieuleperlier251 that's what I heard. It's a shame because I was really looking forward for valhalla. From what I heard I think it's best for the elite edition or whatever to go on sale

[@OuterHeavenMicah]

27:14 incorrect, in the first game at the end right before Aiden causes the mass blackout DedSec contacts him asking him to give them 30 seconds inside CTOS so that they will be the “Watch Dogs”

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

The proper sequel of this game is where the Drones and spider-robots used by these edgy gang-hacker Terrorists gain sentience and organize their own mini-uprising against their Human enslavers, foiling the Humans plans at staging their Human Uprising.

[@zombiecodmedia]

My sole interest in this game is to drive around london and go "hey i know that place"

[@samueldarman1457]

You can tell with pinpoint precision where someone outside the grey, toothpaste-bland flavour writers triple A games are fond of using has collaborated when the goddamn AI has the best dialogue in the game(That someone would be Yathzee).

[@TomMerson]

Man, that parkour in the background at 14:32

[@kalashnikovdevil]

Ah yes, Terrorist Simulator 2020. "We'll show them we aren't terrorists, by being terrorists." But seriously, even by CCP standards, these villains are beyond comedically over the top, or just pathetically flop. Throw in some of the worst English accents I've ever heard of, and you have a perfectly meeeh Ubisoft game.

[@miabunny12.7]

dedsec name drops watch dogs in the first game right before the final hack

[@Snakebyte42]

Why does Ubisoft think they're trying to make Adult Art With Meaning an yet make everyone look and act so cartoonishly? Also, Valhalla next.

[@Texelion]

AC Odyssey : you can recruit any NPC for your crew AFTER assaulting them. Legion : you can recruit any NPC in your crew UNLESS you've assaulted them. See, it's not the same, they've evolved.

[@Nerdiness1985]

Ah Ubisoft, the gift just keeps on taking.

[@Graeystone]

Just like EA and Sony.

[@simondayward9168]

@@Graeystone Yeah, what about Sony?

[@sebastianriz4703]

@@Graeystone Ehhh sure EA is horrible but they are on a whole different level as Ubisoft...Sony though? Whats the bait there bud?

[@trailblazerlazerrazerd9027]

That bit about the National Guard immediately made The Division come to mind lol

[@leon_1782]

The part in Skye‘s house was totally copied from the Witcher 3 Hearts of Stone.

[@simondayward9168]

Spoilers [just kidding. I personally prefer Blood & Wine}

[@someguy8805]

@@simondayward9168 well blood and wine is better, as there is waaaay more content. But hearts of stone has such a great story

[@simondayward9168]

@@someguy8805 ​ @[fat star gazer fish] True. Play HoS before the Main Story. You learn some cool, new things about Cirilla

[@GlennDavey]

9:00 Did you miss the part where this is a future dystopian London with closed Brexit borders and locking up immigrants, and everyone is "implanted with microchips" called "Optics", hence the augmented reality, and being able to electrocute someone remotely which is one of the core mechanics? Mary Kelley didn't do anything different to what the player can do all through the game, only hers was not non-lethal. Things you don't understand aren't necessarily sins.

[@ItMeT0ken]

Ok so Legion is officialy off the list. I'll eventually get it when it's worth 20 bucks.

[@ar_reactions612]

That’s the most anyone should spend on Ubisoft these days

[@LittleBigBwner]

A thing wrong with Watch Dogs Legion - the stupid poorly done ads that sound and look like a mobile game ads and it wasn't till recently I even realized they were Watch Dog ads

[@eltonabove8398]

18:39 I believe the Liaison changes sexuality each playthrough because during mine she was Only attracted to the male Operative I sent after getting rejected as a female character

[@atas2561]

It does

[@DIP_BUH1207]

4:48 okay so there is a small detail of effrct that happens if you kill people. Some people you kill will have relatives and you can come across them, if you do they will shout murderer and will either push you or downright fight you.

[@firuzmajid4780]

This game is just a big "we live in a society" meme

[@Unsung_Earth]

WD1 we can bike jump car jump bomb jump do helicopter glitch etc etc etc. In legion we can't even drive a vehicle correctly ??

[@KaoticReach1999]

Watch Dogs 2 was the best in the series with watch dogs 1 having the best story Legion...you can play as a grandma..

[@LuvzToLol21]

As stupid as this game was, I admit I did have a lot of fun with it

[@SGeeeDubb]

This is the most on point critique I've ever seen from Dartigan. Also, I watched his research gameplay on Twitch and was surprised to hear his voice in real time haha

[@simondayward9168]

Very dulcet & soothing, huh?

[@ThePanther99]

Game deserves at least 50 sins for naming the northern character ‘nowt’.

[@asv520]

18:57 now that confirms that this is indeed a game by ubisoft....

[@TITANia69420]

Things i've found after playing this game: 1. Don't do recruitment missions. Just use the deep profiler and do the smaller tasks there. 2. A gun is the best melee weapon. Not batons, not bats. With a gun in your hand you could immediately execute someone after a bitch slap (or immediately if you're a hitman.) 3. Albion Elite Enforcer is the best stealth operative. They already got a special AR cloak, and you can stack it with the normal AR cloak. 4. If you wanna steal a car from someone, kindly insult the driver and wait for them to get out of their vehicle. Then politely steal their vehicle without having them hate Dedsec.

[@blususpect]

Ubisoft never fails to disappoint…

[@Wildcat2017]

Series name drops itself in every game-"And roll credits" sin+1 Series holds off several games before name dropping itself-"If you take this long to name drop, it isn't worth the name drop." Character has perfect opportunity to name drop game- "And here would have been the perfect time to roll credits."

[@devdev11999]

voice acting horrible. visuals good. gameplay ok. content next to none after the missions. 4/10

[@erutanevoli]

you can add 1 point for marketing

[@devdev11999]

@@erutanevoli true they did very well with that.

[@animebro14]

The "we are watch dogs" line almost had me dead

[@JaysasterGaming]

Optics is why Bagley knows, it records everything you see, and optics is how AR tech is able to been seen.

[@sodium7127]

Also how AR Cloak works