The fact that Matpat's character in the FNAF movie was specifically called Ness because of this video shows that Scott is still the ultimate troll
@wolny_9 Жыл бұрын
came here becouse of Matpat's character in the FNAF movie
@themoocow7718 Жыл бұрын
Yep. Scott truly is a master troll.
@aymorthebird Жыл бұрын
@SoapEater. Same I revisited this video just because of that
@artdomain4877 Жыл бұрын
literally this video is coming up again because of it
@JerJoWe Жыл бұрын
OMG thats so funny i didnt notice that in the movie hahahahah
@qawsqawslol39973 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in an alternate universe Sans: " today we are going to be covering how mat Pat is Scott cawthon"
@driplord18913 жыл бұрын
Underratedddd
@atlas19243 жыл бұрын
no correlation at all.../s
@kelseyblack54853 жыл бұрын
Makes sense lol
@pointypointypointy-pin3 жыл бұрын
@@atlas1924 Have they ever been seen connected?
@Mcfly_rev3 жыл бұрын
😂
@JevilFromDeltarune Жыл бұрын
Not even scott wanted matpat to forget about this video
@bonelabguy1 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@JevilFromDeltarune11 ай бұрын
@@poleve5409 He didn't, Scott choose it for him. Have you watched the film theory video?
@Nittle6942010 ай бұрын
@@JevilFromDeltarunehe probably didnt
@sparkknightella9 ай бұрын
now we know scott REALLY didn’t want mat to forget this video 💀💀 his tweet made me giggle
@ChimeraLotietheBunny9 ай бұрын
Agreed
@comicsansgaster10 ай бұрын
this is the first game theory I’ve ever watched. thank you so much matpat, for everything you’ve done for all of us.
@remcrimson27509 ай бұрын
pfp checks out. Memes aside this was also the first game theory I watched and oh boy was it a glorious one.
@ToastinButter9 ай бұрын
I came 2 years after this video was posted but I was in love with this channel. This was my favorite theory. Man I will miss matpat. May the legend live in our hearts.
@renolapplays80149 ай бұрын
Same
@LuckyThirtyEight9 ай бұрын
back when i was a kid, this video was the first game theory i watched, and it was the one that got me into undertale lol
@Mechagoji029 ай бұрын
You chose this one?
@shadowtd9982 Жыл бұрын
Remember guys: this is why mat is named ness in the fnaf movie
@Killer_toaster Жыл бұрын
Broooo I was about to say that gg
@NasDiablo Жыл бұрын
I actually think it's cause earthbound is his favorite game oat
@Viocuralets11 ай бұрын
@@NasDiabloscott told him on set that it was because of this video
@astralboythearoace9 ай бұрын
Sparky is also a Don't care name for Ness's dog
@PorqueVoceEstaMeMarcando8 ай бұрын
IS THAT FRIKING 0-5-0 NINJA MONKE?😭😭😭😭
@catnaut9035 Жыл бұрын
Ness is not Sans. He grew up to be a waiter at spark's a local diner
@Rubentemira11 ай бұрын
What?
@KazumaEnjoyer11 ай бұрын
@@Rubentemirathere is a person in the fnaf movie named ness played by a person you may already know
@venomfan202011 ай бұрын
Ness the waiter was named after Ness the Sans
@catnaut903511 ай бұрын
@@venomfan2020 ik
@greendiamond2014_dragon11 ай бұрын
Yeah
@2sakiss7 жыл бұрын
I love how many people are coming back to support the video after seeing the Gaster one
@psyche75957 жыл бұрын
ikr
@benjivenator7 жыл бұрын
those morons
@godofgamers38847 жыл бұрын
Mogwei 22 yea
@yatogamithecate7537 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Weinzapfel the troll is quite amusing
@ProfessorChaos567 жыл бұрын
Me to
@Northgical10 ай бұрын
Reminder that Toby Fox just draw an art of Sans and Papyrus with Ness costume on Twitter in response to his retirement, I can’t believe we actually lived long enough to witness this happening, it’s beautiful
@calvinmackey-z9z2 ай бұрын
WHAT
@Wrnon2020228 күн бұрын
I know this is way past when he sell his account or gave it away. I forgot, but mine would be cursive.
@lucyprime39238 жыл бұрын
If it's widely accepted that Sans' machine there is a time machine and it's broken.. Does that make it a *Bad time* machine?
@jadnf8 жыл бұрын
OMG YES
@blussyfan6918 жыл бұрын
waw
@otovent48578 жыл бұрын
Omg xD
@lintsec76298 жыл бұрын
+Vanessa Giddeon * Gonna have a Sad Time using the Bad Time machine to go to Bed TIme.
@klaura67998 жыл бұрын
You win the game of life my friend
@eclipseruin826510 ай бұрын
Now that matpat has announced retirement and mentioned this video. I'm watching it again for pure nostalgia's sake
@Green_Kirby9 ай бұрын
Same here ✋
@Breadbaguette2469 ай бұрын
Me aswell
@knights4eva9819 ай бұрын
SAME
@Osmolskae9 ай бұрын
Me too
@johay8998 ай бұрын
Same
@Cadesworth3 жыл бұрын
imagine how much worse the Sans boss fight would have been if he could use pk fire
@DigiStarBlade3 жыл бұрын
TRUE
@alejandromedrano63663 жыл бұрын
Just DI out or block, bait for it and counterattack
@drascia3 жыл бұрын
Plot twist his opening attack is actually Rockin Omega
@Brendanwa3 жыл бұрын
oh god. this is funnier cause my smash main is ness
@SheetsAndStuff3 жыл бұрын
god damn it you made me laugh and I hate it. Take my like you monster.
@conallhunt727110 ай бұрын
Sans is Ness is MatPat
@oscarmarek77468 ай бұрын
is Scott Cawthon
@joeyravioli8 ай бұрын
is The Phone Guy
@marabethobrien61577 ай бұрын
is the man who hit the 2 towers on September 11 2001
@BadicYT6 ай бұрын
is the austrain painter
@Digital_is_silly4 ай бұрын
is sans again
@artgt11525 жыл бұрын
Now, sans is TWO times in Smash
@robertrodriguez89025 жыл бұрын
Just like the Zelda timeline in smash, it's now sans vs ness
@angusjohnb70145 жыл бұрын
Evo 2020 finals: joker from persona 5 and sans undertale duke it out to megalovania
@anatomicallyincorrect11675 жыл бұрын
no
@tereza95265 жыл бұрын
Oooooh🎵🎶
@inknick20525 жыл бұрын
Yeah sans vs him self ness
@kaidoust41453 жыл бұрын
I kind of feel bad for matpat here. He was obviously very excited about this theory, and put a lot of effort into it. When he saw all the refrences to earthbound, it activated his "theorist senses", even though what he was seeing weren't clues, but just earthbound refrences. This theory was made back when little was known about the game, so I think he didn't have that much of the counterevidence we have today.
@ExperienceExplosion3 жыл бұрын
I think one major thing against it is that this theory is based off of the Earthbound Halloween hack something that Toby had already disagreed with upon Undertale's release. This is due to thing in it like slurs and general edginess. Now this I'm not sure of but when Mat went on the defensive, he said himself he didn't believe this theory but like I said, I remember it, but I could be wrong. Honestly though the biggest problem was taking on the Undertale fan base at the games release, they were of... dubious quality I'll say.
@rainbowdrinks3 жыл бұрын
Well, it is MatPat we are talking about, most of the time in his theories he's just overthinking too much
@hyperblaziken65723 жыл бұрын
Matpat already said before that most of his theories he doesn't actually think they are correct, he just looks for enough material to make a theory that's entertaining
@ayanokawanegucci72303 жыл бұрын
@@hyperblaziken6572 people are not smart enough to know that a theory is not supposed to be a real story...
@Dante02d123 жыл бұрын
@@ayanokawanegucci7230 By definition, a theory is supposed to be coherent, possible. If I state that Pikachu could be a Chipmunk, then add that it has fur like them and walks on both feet but also on all fours like them, that's not a theory, that's just a dumb correlation debunked by basic facts (i.e Pikachu is described as a _mouse_ monster). That's the problem with MatPat. He's known for theories, but he spreads the idea that a theory is just a bunch of dumb guesses regardless of the truth. A theory is an attempt at finding the truth, otherwise it's not a theory. Now I don't know about the backlash he got for this specific video, maybe it was violent, but that certainly won't make me defend his theories when those are dumb.
@ninjaniknik61365 жыл бұрын
Sans is in Smash now, and his official screenshot was in the Earthbound map. Hmm...
@alejandromedrano63665 жыл бұрын
dhalsim can learn 1 or 2 things about stretching from you
@rassilontdavros30045 жыл бұрын
Sakurai probably did that as a joke.
@tauschen5075 жыл бұрын
HMMMMMMMMMMM
@just_aweird05 жыл бұрын
my brainnnnn
@Missingno_Miner5 жыл бұрын
Matpat gets all his smash related theories right
@Mr.Manbat10 ай бұрын
So long matpat, you will always be up there with the greatest. You made most of my childhood and it’s bittersweet to see you go but I’m pretty sure we all wish you the best in life
@boldblues3 жыл бұрын
Even five years later I still can’t believe this was the episode that caused so much commotion.
@unoreverseman89243 жыл бұрын
Nice job stealing a comment mate.
@boldblues3 жыл бұрын
@@unoreverseman8924 Nothin' new under the sun, buddy.
@princeoftides593 жыл бұрын
@*smirks* who tf called the comment police?
@undertaleuwu13333 жыл бұрын
Yesh
@rainbowspongebob3 жыл бұрын
@@Wally_Bally hey it’s still stolen
@johtojedi53283 жыл бұрын
I get the feeling Toby put the Papyrus thing in as a reference and just waited until someone noticed it. He is a Mother fan, after all.
@williammerwin18503 жыл бұрын
True. Something that I actually noticed about some of Papyrus's early designs in the Undertale artbook is that all of his designs for Papyrus that featured the Starman Logo also had him doing a variant of the Starman pose.
@speedy_oda3 жыл бұрын
He is actually skelator
@clairieberries3 жыл бұрын
in a game FULL of lore i dont think it could have just been "a funny"
@aimlessequation53903 жыл бұрын
There are A TON of Mother references in Undertale that weren't mentioned in this video, and many of the tracks in the game are also callbacks to some of the songs in particularly Earthbound (Mother 2). Toby Fox has also worked on several Mother spinoffs, especially in the music department, besides the Halloween Hack one mentioned in this video. I noticed the reference right when I first saw Papyrus' battle design, which was a cool feature, until I saw his stance. That threw me for a loop. What interesting games linked together, if only subtly.
@dylananksorous80273 жыл бұрын
Lol
@bogers88392 жыл бұрын
For a theory that caused so much controversy, this is actually one of my favourite theories matpat has ever done and he makes a lot of cool potential links too
@gooseplays16952 жыл бұрын
yes\
@ConnerTheEsquire2 жыл бұрын
Yeah- I’m new to this theory and video- what happened? What controversy did it cause…?
@calebfarmer1762 жыл бұрын
same!
@ConnerTheEsquire2 жыл бұрын
@@calebfarmer176 I actually looked it up and now I get it. Basically: every game has a fandom, whether it be one of peace or one of hostility. When MatPat made this theory, he… was introduced to the latter. Needless to say, it was a big, bitter surprise that takes a moment to shake off. Then it happened again. 2 blows… But he kept his held up high, and now here we are today.
@calebfarmer1762 жыл бұрын
@@ConnerTheEsquire Yea
@MrMeme-nf7gg8 ай бұрын
Memories. Thats all that needs to be said
@UkieKooki8 жыл бұрын
Papyrus: Hmmm good theory but that doesn't explain why he won't pick up his sock! *sans is rolling around* Papyrus: PICK IT UP, SANS!!!!
@isthatajojoreference8 жыл бұрын
sans: alright
@mmori6738 жыл бұрын
*mutters* the great Papyrus should not have to put up with this Sans
@deadflareheadshot66378 жыл бұрын
sans: no papy: DO IT SANS!!! sans: no *papyrus' head explodes in anger* sans: no
@iiamatsuii8 жыл бұрын
+Snoop Dawg XD
@c.ccarlhead57448 жыл бұрын
+UkieKooki God dammit sans.
@Jay-fl5yr3 жыл бұрын
Say what you want, I really enjoyed this theory years back.
@leefacetv8453 жыл бұрын
its a legitimate theory, dont know why it got so much hate
@Chillerll3 жыл бұрын
Femboys are better than "real" girls. What? You said I can say what I want...
@Jay-fl5yr3 жыл бұрын
That’s just, like, your opinion, man.
@kezneo3 жыл бұрын
@@Chillerll bro who asked
@Chillerll3 жыл бұрын
@@kezneo ur mom asked
@help5065 жыл бұрын
wait, so sans really IS in smash? edit: i come back one year later and it appears i predicted the future. godspeed, snes underman.
@Agent-or8kw5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Agent-or8kw5 жыл бұрын
But without his op bone powers
@pokefanday86665 жыл бұрын
Key word "was".....hits deep
@odomkids82225 жыл бұрын
Before he became sans
@prest015 жыл бұрын
yea i guess so
@ZYANTheGamerPickett2 күн бұрын
Matpat: hey should I be worried about something here? Future matpat: yes, yes you should
@lilsumo25115 жыл бұрын
9:57 Me: Me? I ain't scared of no man, but that, (Sans as a "human") *_it scares me._*
@lilsumo25115 жыл бұрын
I know, that... creation, its just **shiver** *_weird_*
@input_text3435 жыл бұрын
Seeing that made me shudder
@gnarly.bulblax5 жыл бұрын
Poo is Goku
@excitingprince96035 жыл бұрын
has anyone realized that this comment was a reference to "Meet the Pyro" by Valve? or Im just crazy
@zulephizus12125 жыл бұрын
Ness is in Smash. Sans is in Smash. You done did it Matpat, you called it. You absolute madman.
@Tomani025 жыл бұрын
"They called me a madman"
@zalandercalander5 жыл бұрын
*CACKLES*
@Wavelyyy5 жыл бұрын
Zuleph Izus *sigh* yup
@Wavelyyy5 жыл бұрын
Tomani wait... mat pat is cursed with knowledge THEORY: *MAT PAT IS THANOS*
@minxyayala5 жыл бұрын
Matpat didn't call it, HE MADE IT
@nathee37197 жыл бұрын
Guys this is called a theory, not fact. Don't hate.
@benjivenator7 жыл бұрын
How about respectful disliking? Is that okay?
@watakashi6697 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Weinzapfel But what's even the point in disliking? What's the point? It's a theory not a fact. If you don't like the theory that he worked very hard on then that's your problem.
@benjivenator7 жыл бұрын
To show that one dislikes the theory, maybe? Isn't that the point of disliking?
@JWorkAnimations7 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Weinzapfel to be fair, in youtube disliking is considered the same as hating
@boltmix72947 жыл бұрын
The theory was proven wrong,but it was still a good video.
@wyatthenson883510 ай бұрын
Thank you for being an amazing content creator for the childhoods of many, we will truly miss you Matthew Patrick.
@17zero5 жыл бұрын
"if you haven't played it, pause the video and come back after you finished it" 3 years later, here I am
@strawberrynikolas5 жыл бұрын
IT TOOK ME THREE YEARS TO FINALLY GET TO IT AHAHA,,
@lowpokemonmaster051 no, of course I didn't spend three years actively playing it lol I had other games to play, and little time available to do it
@Mr_Peem5 жыл бұрын
Peter M doesn’t matter cause this their sucks and has been debunked alot
@CoolBroccoli10 ай бұрын
man this is just depressing now, we may never have another matpat, he was truely THE GOAT. we'll never forget you matpat
@Green_Kirby9 ай бұрын
He will always be remembered by the Internet
@antonymaidan3 жыл бұрын
matpat would be represented by impact if he had a font
@IcecreamMcGuy3 жыл бұрын
But it wouldn’t be that big
@ZachX8883 жыл бұрын
MEME THEORY CONFIRMED
@thehcchannel93753 жыл бұрын
@@IcecreamMcGuy no it whoud be scott the woz
@IcecreamMcGuy3 жыл бұрын
@@thehcchannel9375 huh?
@ilovemyfans82083 жыл бұрын
Sans's font
@Endborn10 ай бұрын
Ive never seen this infamous theory until now. Goodbye matpat...
@ImZhald10 ай бұрын
Same
@MegrelMamba10 ай бұрын
Me too.
@jamesvictorbarrera683610 ай бұрын
Sem gudbay mat 😢
@shreyasmadan71925 жыл бұрын
9:57 I fear no man, but that thing *Sans with a human face* It scares me
@Gruff.5 жыл бұрын
°_°
@874dan45 жыл бұрын
Ha
@tristenfontaine74505 жыл бұрын
#relaitible
@imnotnova89535 жыл бұрын
#Relatable
@tammytubbs77195 жыл бұрын
It scares us all
@sqrt2295 Жыл бұрын
After rewatching this video after 7 years I realize how many of the clues for Sans being Ness now are better recontextualized as Sans being from the Deltarune universe.
@epicspooder Жыл бұрын
Came back after the Ness easter egg in the fnaf movie, was totally thinking the same thing. Especially because deltarune was planned first (I think?)
@notme823210 ай бұрын
@@epicspooderUndertale was literally a proof of concept for Deltarune, which is based on an ending revealed to Toby in a fever dream.
@foxowar39533 жыл бұрын
* you decide to re-watch some older videos * * it says it was posted 5 years ago * * you suddenly feel much older *
@ronanhorton73323 жыл бұрын
Tbh I thought it came out longer ago so I feel like less time passed lol
@starwhale30703 жыл бұрын
I remember when this first came out, I was about to start high school. I’m now a first year college
@FriskDrinksBrisk3 жыл бұрын
*you're filled with AGE.
@breadbybread3 жыл бұрын
yeah
@declanziolkowski3 жыл бұрын
*you decide to cry in a corner*
@maxleavitt819910 ай бұрын
This video is the sole reason I got into Undertale, thank you MarPat
@ezdoesit73033 жыл бұрын
5 years ago, everything changed.
@alexanderthegreat9133 жыл бұрын
When the Hater Nation attacked
@Anonymous-le8xe3 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderthegreat913 have you seen any "haters" though?
@idksomerandomguyontheinter28753 жыл бұрын
@@Anonymous-le8xe I have
@leahryan65573 жыл бұрын
YAY MY MIND IS BROKEN
@lornadrapezasagun36213 жыл бұрын
What changed
@AndreB235 жыл бұрын
"Is this Ness?" "No, this is Patrick."
@charlieharrington95555 жыл бұрын
Andre B maybe it’s the way he’s dressed
@bombtastic29525 жыл бұрын
@@charlieharrington9555 maybe its the
@bloodmuzzle5 жыл бұрын
Actually Patrick IS Ness. The voice of Sans is Patrick. Sans = Ness.
@robinspook-58735 жыл бұрын
@@bombtastic2952 maybe it's
@diacosiapentacontahex5 жыл бұрын
maybe its maybe may ay ay ayayayayayay
@sundownerstrudel2 жыл бұрын
The fact that there is an official Earthbound book that has Undertale characters in it means this theory actually has slightly more evidence and that’s terrifying.
@biaxolotl51712 жыл бұрын
There was a WHAT
@leostootired2 жыл бұрын
Sorry what? Please give a source
@sundownerstrudel2 жыл бұрын
@@leostootired Hold on lemme get it
@biaxolotl51712 жыл бұрын
@@sundownerstrudel yes?
@sundownerstrudel2 жыл бұрын
@@biaxolotl5171 Huh I thought I posted the link. Basically it’s a page in the Pollyanna Mother book.
@Zaxlfang9 ай бұрын
I would be "Comic Sans MS" but every 16th letter would be "Shadows into light" and every 57th number would be "Arial" for literally no reason.
@LetHimCookProductions2 ай бұрын
True
@superamigo9873 жыл бұрын
Everything changed when the "sans is ness" theory attacked.........
@martianimperialcouncil91943 жыл бұрын
Oh don't worry, the Undertale Fandom was considered toxic even BEFORE they used this theory as a battering ram.
@paleosan9173 жыл бұрын
@@martianimperialcouncil9194 it was toxic as hell from 2015 to 2017-2018 but as of now the undertale hype has died down and the fandom s a shell of its former self
@martianimperialcouncil91943 жыл бұрын
@@paleosan917 I will say, Those were terrible times.
@paleosan9173 жыл бұрын
@@martianimperialcouncil9194 yes
@omaranguiano41683 жыл бұрын
I agreed show me them scarred me good thing I dream about nothing
@eronabcj16937 жыл бұрын
Jesus christ its not that bad of a theory, i think this is a bad case of overly triggered fandom
@TheRisenDeadClan7 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what happened. Matt says in the new video that he doesn't actually believe that these theories are cannon, they're just meant to get people to think in new, creative ways. The toxicity of the undertale community is so bad to the point that they refuse to have open minds about anything. To them, undertale is the video game incarnation of god himself.
@benjivenator7 жыл бұрын
Please explain how this theory makes people think in a new creative way.
@kohaneazusawa7 жыл бұрын
Eron ABCJ thank you!
@ThatGamingKid457 жыл бұрын
PREACH!!
@benjivenator7 жыл бұрын
Sorry, since you're so enlightened, could you explain it to me? When I watch this video, I'm not seeing anything new or creative, just hastily-rushed nonsense.
@triscuit44918 жыл бұрын
Actually, Toby Fox just liked Earthbound, so he added stuff from it.
@triscuit44918 жыл бұрын
He eve said Papyrus' design was based off of Starman.
@mgalds14278 жыл бұрын
+RainbowDerp well, it was based of starman but sans says that papyrus's suit was from a COSTUME CONTEST i guess mat overlooked that one, heh
@triscuit44918 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I'm not trying to be mean, I love Matt's theories, but this one sucks.
@mgalds14278 жыл бұрын
RainbowDerp true that i preffer thinking of sans as my good ol' buddy pal clock (get it? because he says you're gonna have a bad time) ok, i'm going home now
@triscuit44918 жыл бұрын
but... but.... you ARE sans.
@13-sophie-139 ай бұрын
The fact that he's retiring made me revisit one of my favorite childhood vids, why am I crying
@shockwaveyou38194 жыл бұрын
*That’s why Sans bleeds when you finally hit him!* Me: Are you sure that’s not ketchup?
@casbobbb93044 жыл бұрын
It really is the exact same color
@travisithink1054 жыл бұрын
Like
@bonganthonyiruma18604 жыл бұрын
He did drinker KETCHUP when I hangout with him at grillby's
@bonganthonyiruma18604 жыл бұрын
Sorry my auto-correct ruined it
@rozitasulaiman29234 жыл бұрын
@@bonganthonyiruma1860 just edit it.
@orangeman90815 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe that they added a 3rd Earthbound rep into smash
@alejandromedrano63665 жыл бұрын
can't believe you have done that
@MentaAzul5 жыл бұрын
lmao
@etienne87585 жыл бұрын
Lucas isn’t from Earthbound
@flippant_foe5 жыл бұрын
@@etienne8758 yes he is dumbass he is from Earthbound 2
@Missingno_Miner5 жыл бұрын
Three links, two nesses
@grey_wolf7185 жыл бұрын
Matpat: undertale is a game best experienced blind Me : tries to watch a whole gameplay with closed eyes
@alexgria5 жыл бұрын
matapat
@a_man_with_a_plan5 жыл бұрын
@Karissa Turcotte *lol
@skullkurr57245 жыл бұрын
tried doing that too. fell asleep before the toriel boss fight
@smartstuf10265 жыл бұрын
Julia Dayus Thats not dark
@smartstuf10265 жыл бұрын
Funny
@vulk41899 ай бұрын
Hearing the guy that told me Sans was Ness when I was 10 years old is retiring is something
@GodLRCN7 жыл бұрын
The Undertale community is worse then the sonic community
@Hdusiekwbshsjs7 жыл бұрын
It's Trzy That's a stretch
@GodLRCN7 жыл бұрын
Sentient Salamander no not at all, the undertale community is TOXIC, the sonic community is just filled with kids.
@Hdusiekwbshsjs7 жыл бұрын
It's Trzy Yeah but the sonic community has been alive way longer
@shy58997 жыл бұрын
Sentient Salamander not everyone is bad in thr communities. It's just that the crazy and toxic people in the communities stick out compared to the normal people
@mattmillsmpm7 жыл бұрын
It's Trzy okay WOAH
@loulou-sd1ug7 жыл бұрын
To everyone who hated on this I just want to point out what Mat said "That's just a theory, a game theory."
@benjivenator7 жыл бұрын
Yes, but isn't that just the equivalent of saying "It's just a prank, bro!" when you do something horrendous to someone else? It doesn't excuse what you just did, and nor does Matpat's little mantra excuse this terrible theory.
@Hdusiekwbshsjs7 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Weinzapfel What? How come him providing some evidence and talking about a theory is the same as doing something horrible. You act like he just committed murder and is trying to make up an excuse, your logic is flawed.
@benjivenator7 жыл бұрын
What I'm trying to say is that tacking something onto the end doesn't excuse what you did beforehand. Just as people don't care whether it was "just a prank", people can still hate flawed logic even if it's "just a theory".
@Hdusiekwbshsjs7 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Weinzapfel But what did he do before hand? We are talking about theory here? Not blowing up America.
@Shadow4wolf7 жыл бұрын
What the hell is a theory going to do, physically? Nothing! Mentally? Make someone think! Now, how about a prank? Physically? could hurt a hella lot. Mentally? It could ruin your trust, it could make someone depressed, etc. So if you think that saying "but hey, that's just a theory. A game theory!" is anything like "it's just a prank", then you need to rethink yourself, kid.
@domackelj29384 жыл бұрын
1:12 "Should I be worried?" oh boy he was so unready for what was to come
@Fall3nZ4ch Жыл бұрын
He definitely was.
@Badeggontheyoutoob Жыл бұрын
He would not be able to fathom what has become of fnaf
@nickmilano251611 ай бұрын
Yope
@gsrandomvidz8 ай бұрын
after 8 years, i finally decided to watch this theory, and lemme tell you: it did not disappoint
@gigalad3129 Жыл бұрын
i cant believe this video was referenced in million dollar budget movie
@sohumchatterjee94 жыл бұрын
This is one of those projects that will forever haunt poor Matpat for life.
@jordanjohnson94464 жыл бұрын
Guess Which other one scares haunts him
@alandalusinquisition21664 жыл бұрын
@@jordanjohnson9446 which?
@louay52724 жыл бұрын
@@alandalusinquisition2166 Probably Mario is mental/Mario is a communist
@alandalusinquisition21664 жыл бұрын
@@louay5272 oh yeah that
@Rocket_Matrix964 жыл бұрын
And that's a good thing
@normieaboo38664 жыл бұрын
“I don’t think I’ve gotten this many requests for a game... other than fnaf... fnaf 2... oh yeah and fnaf 3. Should I be worried about something here?” *Oh poor Matt. If only you knew.*
@pineapplepanda84444 жыл бұрын
?
@danabarnhill34654 жыл бұрын
RIP matpat
@roseauragaming4 жыл бұрын
*MatPat huddled in corner wispering* why are there so many books coming out
@Navernous4 жыл бұрын
Hey, My name is matt
@seadagutic7584 жыл бұрын
If only you knew
@sansundertale-g5jАй бұрын
as a sans, i can confirm i am a ness.
@SuperNaturalBoden2 жыл бұрын
I'm not afraid to admit, this theory is one of the many reasons how I got into EarthBound in the first place. Thank you Mat Pat.
@checkm8rr2 жыл бұрын
this theory is just how i know about earthbound, but i dont have a nintendo
@SuperNaturalBoden2 жыл бұрын
@@checkm8rr Same bro, same
@Pinkio Жыл бұрын
even though i know Ness since like 2011 my Sonic Robo Blast 2 friends memeing with "Ness is Sans" on is what made me get interested in Undertale on 2018 and later Earthbound on 2019 lmao
@sleepydogi Жыл бұрын
I wanna tell you something....I don't have a Nintendo....I downloaded a mobile version of Mother 2 lolkekdude
@SuperNaturalBoden Жыл бұрын
@@Pinkio Nice
@pixelparasite8294 жыл бұрын
My only question is, if Sans was Ness, and Ness was the one in the photo album, how would you recognize him as Sans The Skeleton?
@sylviaponce70764 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@RG-ew1zz4 жыл бұрын
Bone structure
@RG-ew1zz4 жыл бұрын
Also “looks familiar”
@maskedperson18704 жыл бұрын
The machine he said though is not true
@maskedperson18704 жыл бұрын
I meant that thats not the right machine inside the secret lab
@cheems27394 жыл бұрын
“Sans and Papyrus just showed up and asserted themselves” So they T-posed
@chris-mf6sv4 жыл бұрын
Blesi MC or found the biggest guy on the lot and beat him up
@T0mbuc3et4 жыл бұрын
Revived meme time!!
@errormessage40434 жыл бұрын
T pose assert dominance
@dingdinggaming92544 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of holes like the part where the player recognizes sans with three people it doesn’t make sense
@Crimzon1844 жыл бұрын
Lemme guess, your In band
@ghostfromgotham26612 ай бұрын
shoutout to whoever yelled "HEY IT'S NESS FROM EARTHBOUND" at me while i was in sans cosplay at a convention a few weeks ago, that slayed
@Treesicle8 жыл бұрын
lol
@salixbaby8 жыл бұрын
lol
@ibabgalakhov25388 жыл бұрын
Why?
@gabrielbrassard89858 жыл бұрын
lol
@GhostEcho8 жыл бұрын
Treesicle!
@MasterZeus948 жыл бұрын
+Treesicle Hey there, Tree.
@hydrotwister16145 жыл бұрын
Sans: what's this *flashes comic* Papyrus:that's a comic sans *realises joke*
@oingusboingus56625 жыл бұрын
hydrotwister161 noice
@benjaminc9245 жыл бұрын
Lol
@ayaalturas11735 жыл бұрын
lol
@ayaalturas11735 жыл бұрын
ness - e + a = nass = sans
@rebeccarose16795 жыл бұрын
@@ayaalturas1173 😮
@theveremianshow21017 жыл бұрын
Why did this video recive so many dislikes?
@manolgeorgiev96647 жыл бұрын
Adwagon 22 cus there are many haters
@redoctane02177 жыл бұрын
Adwagon 22 haters gonna hate
@AimarPrabhaswaraDZ7 жыл бұрын
Adwagon 22 the undertale community is TOXIC. i iwas in the community for a little while, but when i tried to open my mind about undertale, the community be like hell naw, you aint talking bout useless things. i hate toxic community
@Zippy1717 жыл бұрын
Yea i dont get it. I still think the theory and video are great.
@enternewname49317 жыл бұрын
its pretty much the fnaf community except worse
@octan56022 ай бұрын
This is peak theorycrafting. I never saw this coming, but it makes so much sense now.
@nooneimportant79837 жыл бұрын
Frisk : AHA! I FINALLY FIGURED OUT YOUR TRUE IDENTITY SANS, OR SHOULD I SAY... NESS?! Sans :Kid... Frisk :The badge, the book every thing finally makes since!!! Sans : FRISK! I'm.. Uh.. This is hard to explain but........ Frisk : ? Sans : I'm just a big EarthBound fan. Frisk : ...
@kerfuffletruffle13837 жыл бұрын
The Winter Dreemurr who is sans? why does sans have all that earthbound related stuff in his lab? why does papyrus have the star man symbol on his outfit and stand in a similar position? They're huge earthbound fans. mystery solved.
@thelunarfroggie7 жыл бұрын
The Winter Dreemurr OMFG IVE SEEN THAT ANIMATION!!
@tonybarde25727 жыл бұрын
Sans: Frisk, I am actually Claus, Lucas's twin brother resurrected from the dead.
@kasiedeas85287 жыл бұрын
papyrus:WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
@danzelledonato5227 жыл бұрын
The Winter Dreemurr his not that kid you believe him I know Sans is Steven
@grimblob73053 жыл бұрын
To think this was 5 years ago aswell, time flies.
@MinatotheGreenLantern3 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@gigachad14863 жыл бұрын
time is like a river...it moves
@grimblob73053 жыл бұрын
@@gigachad1486 i know but that river moves fast Like REALLY fast
@inky_mesa3 жыл бұрын
Sans his gasterblasters in ddd fight:TRY ME BISH
@Ttegegg3 жыл бұрын
@@inky_mesa sheeeete. We gotta go time travel
@Lillianz20124 жыл бұрын
One character that stuck out: SANS Papyrus: *sad nyeh noises*
@@SteveScriggins7539 it's a sad version of bone trousle
@MyJoselopes4 жыл бұрын
More like upsettii noises
@anochabanchee89934 жыл бұрын
Papyrus: Nyah hah hah, don;t worry about me human!
@Gorillamonkeevr21 күн бұрын
Y'all forgot one thing, in the pacifist run sans will inform you of papyrus special attack being the blue bones, he says to refer them to "stop signs" there's no stop signs in undertale proving he has once been to the surface
@-biggs-56965 жыл бұрын
Remember back when this wasn't a meme? Yeah, me neither.
@smartstuf10265 жыл бұрын
Big_Boom362 It’s like this is the only thing people actually associate with Earthbound. Its sad.
@lamestudiosinc4184 жыл бұрын
@John Waters Lol yeah Earthbound has a huge fanbase and is universally praised by critics.
@thebytro58984 жыл бұрын
Get this comment one more like
@lamestudiosinc4184 жыл бұрын
I was the 666th like. This is an honor.
@thebytro58984 жыл бұрын
@@lamestudiosinc418 You have done well
@angrydorito32523 жыл бұрын
“There was fnaf 1 2 and 3, should i be worried about something?” If only he knew
@TheOneWhoKnocc3 жыл бұрын
FNaF 4, World, SL, FFPS, UCN, VR, AR, FiS2, Fury’s Rage, and a total of 24 books
@thecoolpotato52083 жыл бұрын
@@TheOneWhoKnocc cant forget the movie and security breach
@TheOneWhoKnocc3 жыл бұрын
@@thecoolpotato5208 and the fact that we all thought fnaf 57 was a joke but really scott is going to make like 78 of these games
@OrionsCat3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOneWhoKnocc Scott seems like he's milking the franchise dry lol Yet somehow he makes more stories from it
@linusdickens47673 жыл бұрын
What's FiS2?
@soulz_x81854 жыл бұрын
Sans: Hey Pap Whats This *holds Up Comic* Papyrus: Ah! That A Comic Sans Papyrus:... Papyrus: *triggered*
@domthebomb9244 жыл бұрын
King Asgore you’ve absorbed the 6 souls and that gave you the power to make this good joke
@bradleymorriss97824 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Swoopas4 жыл бұрын
Epic! Sans yeah he did
@Makitru4 жыл бұрын
Epic! Sans But didn’t the dub steal it from what they were reading?
@YfagetP4 жыл бұрын
UwU
@Belbasaur39 ай бұрын
Thank you Matpat, for the greatest childhood anyone could ask for.
@toxicity_14455 жыл бұрын
2016 matpat: no game has ever been more requests well except for fnaf and fnaf2 and fnaf3 wait should I be worried me in 2019: hahahahaha you have no idea
@wimpywater5 жыл бұрын
So true
@helenpaterson79125 жыл бұрын
So true
@blitzkreigomegaadventures44215 жыл бұрын
me in 2020: the fall of matpat's video's has just begun =) 2014 matpat: so maybe the ghost's of the children in the robots arn't actully ghost's but demons... but hey thats a theory A GAME THEORY me: and i forgot matpats very old video's were the cringey ones =)
@kingxerxes09695 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@gacha_ashy5025 жыл бұрын
Toxicity Gaming yep yep
@FranXiT5 жыл бұрын
This was the start of the end... The undying meme.
@dillontran51065 жыл бұрын
Franx ITA tgay
@FranXiT5 жыл бұрын
@@dillontran5106 finally someone that doesn't tell me to kill myself... Thank you.
@FranXiT5 жыл бұрын
@sky runner that's hard to believe if we count the cancer ALSO as power, but it's very true indeed
@TreyTheWilliam5 жыл бұрын
More like the Undyne meme.
@CuackTheDucks5 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahahaha, HAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
@teh_error644 жыл бұрын
Sans is Patrick because his voice was a clip was from Patrick saying “maybe it’s the way you’re dressed”
@thebigdoggy-y2k4 жыл бұрын
Omg that so smart lel
@makaylaedits75034 жыл бұрын
Hmmm I’ll ask Spongebob
@rubub84554 жыл бұрын
:000
@R3DPharaoh4 жыл бұрын
what- Really? i thought that was just a joke. That's pretty cool doe
@venomvc4 жыл бұрын
BUT HEY! THAT'S JUST A THEORY- A GAME THEORY!
@neb_4209 ай бұрын
Watching this after the news.. Honestly it feels right to go full circle.
@endme63225 жыл бұрын
Here’s a mini theory: Sans might also be named after the Sanzu river, which in the (I forget religion) is thought to be where people get judged based by their every action after death
@talonspin5 жыл бұрын
Sanzu is Japanese for sans
@deadacc63385 жыл бұрын
*cough* diettheory *cough*
@majoraswrath83165 жыл бұрын
Sans is named after the font "Comic Sans," just as Papyrus is named after the font "Papyrus," both being the fonts their dialogue is written in, respectively.
@sarahhunter85155 жыл бұрын
😮
@suckmyass9775 жыл бұрын
no its just from a font
@lynbouthillier58197 жыл бұрын
Who rewatched this because of matpat latest theory
@Anuri0077 жыл бұрын
Yeap
@malachigross67997 жыл бұрын
Lyn Bouthillier Yes!
@thirstyninja56827 жыл бұрын
Lyn Bouthillier definitely me
@samconnolly9837 жыл бұрын
Yep
@ProfessorChaos567 жыл бұрын
Yep
@ouka66868 жыл бұрын
Good job making Toby Fox feel bad about himself.
@acceptnosubstitutions43538 жыл бұрын
+Clockwork Otters This video was pretty cringy to watch, Now imagine being Toby.
@ouka66868 жыл бұрын
I feel like Toby doesn't want to imagine being Toby.
@RavenMoodle8 жыл бұрын
+Clockwork Otters he pointed out the similarities in the games, and now we will never hear the end of how "UNDERTALE is just a rip off of earthbound" not sayin' anything agains Matt, but yeah
@horsebox51388 жыл бұрын
I don't get what you mean?
@shaianna.12228 жыл бұрын
+ManButt Weedington Toby tweeted something about liking fan hypothesis but not liking it when people mention the earthbound hack.
@illegalbonez29 күн бұрын
"and- and fnaf 3, should I be worried about something here?" yes, yes mathew, you should be very worried
@scoshi65927 жыл бұрын
WHY AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS THIS THEORY MAKES SO MUCH SENSE
@benjivenator7 жыл бұрын
because it doesn't?
@alexnguyen89137 жыл бұрын
+Benjamin Weinzapfel Are you just jumping on to different comment threads to talk about how bad this theory is? It's supposed to be a fun video
@sirwahthemonke7 жыл бұрын
1. Bone matter 2. and that in the supposed picture that you reconises sans in could not be the picture that he said
@theredandblackneogamer51607 жыл бұрын
Yuri Brainoxious your not the one one and your profile picture is from konosuba
@ThrillingDuck7 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the video and the theory a lot but there were some definite liberties taken, like how would Frisk recognize Sans as Ness in the picture? Also Ness's warp ability involves him running like a human Dolorian or Epoch to build up speed for the jump in Earthbound, so he only uses it to travel long distances and he certainly can't "blink" around the way Sans does. I also think that Papyrus is a little too invested in the culture of the Underground to be a rogue Starman - even one with a goofy, friendly disposition. If anything it's more likely that Sans/Ness had a Starman uniform with him when he arrived in the Underground and Papyrus simply took a liking to it.
@milkandcookies7204 жыл бұрын
"undertale is best played blind" undertale fans: so here's how you should play the game...
@quentintime38874 жыл бұрын
Hi
@dillon81244 жыл бұрын
@@quentintime3887 hi
@PokeMario-pk4ot4 жыл бұрын
@@dillon8124 hi
@gummygum87244 жыл бұрын
@Zahrah hi
@tact1caapp1334 жыл бұрын
@@gummygum8724 hi
@rcmini10005 жыл бұрын
Oh great, ness was added into smash twice now
@pepi5605 жыл бұрын
So was link
@Purple_Sloth5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he was added 3 times. Sans earthbound Sans mother 3 Sans undertale
@mimikyufates5765 жыл бұрын
Nope two different universes there not the same
@Purple_Sloth5 жыл бұрын
Mimikyufates lol, wrong. We all know that shrek is cannon to the earthbound timeline. Because shrek is cannon in the game grumps Game grumps is cannon in shovel knight (cameo) Shovel knight is cannon to smash (assist trophy) Smash is cannon to earthbound (ness/lucas/spirits/etc.) Thus, even shrek is cannon. And sans is cannon to smash (dlc) Smash is cannon to earthbound (as stated earlier) Sans is cannon to earthbound. Screw you, I’m right.
@tads87235 жыл бұрын
Ah great
@8NGgamer9 ай бұрын
1:06 yes Matpat, it’s probably a thing you should watch out for
@arandomguy88_793 жыл бұрын
Therapist: Sans with skin isn’t real, he can’t hurt you! *Sans with skin*: 9:57
@BeeZeeTen3 жыл бұрын
✡︎ ☹︎✌︎☠︎✞︎
@Ikaro_Vincente3 жыл бұрын
ꀷ꒻ꂦꀤ꒻ꍏ꒻ ꀷꀤꏂ ꀷꀤꏂ ꀷꀤꏂ ꀷꀤꏂ
@deinodinosuchus3 жыл бұрын
@@BeeZeeTen hey that’s wingdings font! :O no idea what it says tho lol
@bethanyaguilard10883 жыл бұрын
im distureb bad
@wannabreakfromtheads41003 жыл бұрын
@@BeeZeeTen wtf is this I'm to lazy to translate
@metroidotherm6170 Жыл бұрын
I cannot congratulate you enough for this Mat, the theory itself may be absolute nonsense but seeing you in the FNAF movie with Ness’s name was absolutely incredible.
@MrWhatdafuBOOM11 ай бұрын
Disagree, I don't believe it myself but he did make some fair connections.
@MassiveMushroom10 ай бұрын
@@MrWhatdafuBOOMthey weren’t talking about the theory. They said themselves it was nonsense like bro, did you even read the comment
@themustardman21910 ай бұрын
@@MassiveMushroomwhat? They literally said "the theory itself may be absolute nonsense", and the other person replied "disagree, he did make some fair connections". That is LITERALLY what they were talking about
@jeffo77999 ай бұрын
@@MassiveMushroommoron
@kobenmonster43828 ай бұрын
@axolotlking9772 did you?
@elex45854 жыл бұрын
quarantine:* exist* all of the fandoms i was in: WeLl HeLlO oLd FrIeNd DoNt FoRgEt AbOuT uS
@iamrohantaank4 жыл бұрын
Why does matpat hate this theory?
@melindalewis11304 жыл бұрын
I enjoy replaying Pokemon Red, a game made for a completely different generation from me lol
@josieno33434 жыл бұрын
lol true
@inksansandtheaucrew35064 жыл бұрын
@@iamrohantaank He doesn’t hate this theory, he actually tries to defend it. People like me hate it because it has the flimsiest logic I’ve ever seen and makes no sense.
@sonicthegamer30974 жыл бұрын
Stop using the word lol
@hammerix855810 ай бұрын
thank you matt
@realvkurp59663 жыл бұрын
They say, you can still hear undertale fans scream to this day
@slurryshade41033 жыл бұрын
Ikr bruh
@MinatotheGreenLantern3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@coolnineteenfourthreethreesix3 жыл бұрын
Trust me the earthbound fans were screaming harder
@MinatotheGreenLantern3 жыл бұрын
@@coolnineteenfourthreethreesix nah
@ted90303 жыл бұрын
Earthbound fans are worse (im a fan of both games)
@th1sdud30nf1r34 жыл бұрын
Dr Andounuts: *killed 4 kids The man behind the slaughter song intensifies
@melitoocampo52654 жыл бұрын
Just a couple more...
@Fnaffan7774 жыл бұрын
Yeeeees
@emerald_a_op44004 жыл бұрын
Willam: chuckles with superiority
@wheatflavoredicecream68634 жыл бұрын
I love how people just call it "the man behind the slaughter song"
@iliodora254 жыл бұрын
@@wheatflavoredicecream6863 SINCE YOU'VE BEEN GONE.-
@tropicson8 жыл бұрын
just gonna point out that when sans "bleeds" it's actually ketchup. toby confirmed this.
@michelvillanueva19388 жыл бұрын
Where can I find the conforming
@bigdog89288 жыл бұрын
"the conforming"
@michelvillanueva19388 жыл бұрын
+Some Cringy Guy ;-;
@alivar67088 жыл бұрын
+eli rivers explain the "ketchup" coming out of his mouth
@FaticusDolphinius8 жыл бұрын
+G.A. M.E remeber that sans regularly chugs ketchup bottles.....
@AlexColdfoot-j4x10 ай бұрын
Proud to say this was the first matpat video I ever watched
@GeorgieStory4 жыл бұрын
The real theory: Sans voice actor is Patrick
@teo-kk7zk4 жыл бұрын
yes this is actually a good theory!
@ETGRoblox4 жыл бұрын
It’s not a theory, it’s a fact!
@azzam_azhrilv30884 жыл бұрын
@@ETGRoblox voice look same
@lannymcpherson87494 жыл бұрын
@@ETGRoblox Patrick is really sans remember that spongebob episode spongebobs breath when patrick was on the bench he talked to him and then you heard a little bit of sans dialogue without patrick sans would have never existed undertale would but there would of been a diffrent character and thats it
@justinwoods31574 жыл бұрын
I HAVE A GOOD ONE UNDYNE IS PART HUMAN AND HAS HER OWN POWERFUL DETERMINATION
@FaxTheFaxMachine3 жыл бұрын
Sans is 100% ness. Guys, Sakurai literally posted a picture of ness with sans sneaking behind him
@jacobs33273 жыл бұрын
There is 0.0001% chance that sans might not be ness
@SuperParkerBro273 жыл бұрын
Idk maybe it’s the way your dressed
@hq2doorx3343 жыл бұрын
No sans use to live on the surface that's why he wants to go back. That's my think
@hq2doorx3343 жыл бұрын
@@jacobs3327 actually no, it's 50 50. Because sans and the monsters lived on the surface and many papyrus was born underground, being sans's brother. Thats what I think
@rostislav75133 жыл бұрын
@@jacobs3327 so its 99% he's ness?
@musiclistening83915 жыл бұрын
Matpat helped get Sans into smash But that's just a theory
@hosephhernandez68265 жыл бұрын
Wait no way a a GAME THEORY?????!!!!!!!!
@4d-sucuklu5 жыл бұрын
A GAME THEORY
@twiphe43755 жыл бұрын
@@4d-sucuklu THANKS FOR WATCHING
@nelajurlin94355 жыл бұрын
AGAIN
@thischannelisnothereanymor71235 жыл бұрын
A GAME THEORY
@aldraga9 ай бұрын
Sans is Ness is Matpat! (Goodbye Matpat)
@justinwulff-caesar84615 жыл бұрын
I think I might know why sans is ness Maybe it's the way he's dressed
@holhorse5255 жыл бұрын
Justin Wulff-Caesar rhymes
@pikko36645 жыл бұрын
:0
@Dom-kp6ur5 жыл бұрын
Dude you posted cringe your going to lose subscribers
@StillJustAJ5 жыл бұрын
Justin Wulff-Caesar nani
@disgusted71875 жыл бұрын
This one made me chuckle.
@spookire84962 жыл бұрын
Ahh, this brings back memories. I remember really liking this theory when it came out! I didn’t think it was true, but I did enjoy watching it. Sad it got the hate that it did.
@oniichandame482 жыл бұрын
Sorry can you brief me on why it got so much hate?
@carlitolol14352 жыл бұрын
@@oniichandame48 undertale fandom in 2015
@oliverknowles8472 жыл бұрын
@@oniichandame48 cus its a bad theory
@snsnshhhs6632 жыл бұрын
@@carlitolol1435 *2016
@snsnshhhs6632 жыл бұрын
@@oliverknowles847 That’s your opinion
@ishaanjani85386 жыл бұрын
I saw my teacher wearing your merch XD
@redstoneholiday81906 жыл бұрын
U must have the coolest teacher the things my teacher wears is stuff like "teachers rock" XD
@Tarynndactyll6 жыл бұрын
Your teacher is amazing
@miuiruma5356 жыл бұрын
Your teacher is wonderful
@maxamusm35626 жыл бұрын
Are you sirios?
@vishalmangla24806 жыл бұрын
Same!!!
@Butterdog2dios9 ай бұрын
Glad Matt finally realized that sans and PAPYRUS are both Ness.