Game Theory: Was Ninja Worth It? (The Ninja Mixer Deal)

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There was a BIG shake up in the streaming world with Ninja leaving Twitch for Mixer. Mixer has invested a lot in Ninja to really jumpstart their platform. What I want to figure out is whether or not this was a good investment. Now, I'm not shading Ninja. I want to figure out if investing in one big creator is a smart move or not. Today Theorists, we are breaking down the Ninja / Mixer / Twitch situation!
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[@kheaousdestra]

I really do enjoy these kinds of videos 😊. As someone who has been trying to become a presence online these kinds of videos really help.

[@JustZeOne]

What a positive comment.

[@lead_tv]

cool, but you dont have any videos on your channel

[@prodbyvohr]

i like these type of videos but can you cut that video length? But 20 (or near 20) Minutes every video?? What happened to thos 10 minute videos? those were the litt days.

[@Neno-jn4sk]

Kheaous Destra congrats

[@pikapika123]

SWAG EDGAR because the KZbin algorithm favors longer videos

[@0noy]

"Yes, you with the face" *Im gonna start using that whenever i don't know someone's name*

[@cimxta3491]

It's a reference from somewhere but I can't remember what it is and it's annoying

[@mrrooaar1264]

Mmmmmmmmmmm yossssshh

[@kordru]

Yup

[@kengaminbro]

Errðr Fa!lz 😂😂😂

[@theproton5837]

Errðr Fa!lz it’s not original

[@beckharper6959]

“Uh yes. You with the face.” Matpat 2019

[@realcia4429]

Beck Harper That's not matpat, that's ninja. Clearly.

[@LoverOfStuff]

*Quote of the Year*

[@Caxuscosmo]

Your so right! Now that we got that out of the way I have a quick question, do you own any dogs?

[@dorshaldoes5055]

*am i joke to you?*

[@ashkechup7524]

Its a rare occurrence nowadays

[@BlocksaverMax]

I like how Amazon (the owner of twitch) sponsored a video about twitch vs mixer...

[@somamakesyouhappy703]

Yeah it's super weird and unbiased that game theory think it was a bad idea...

[@kidstoyscarstoys6662]

Mat pat sucks

[@lucak707]

It’s not about Twitch vs Mixer, it’s about Ninja + Mixer and if the deal was smart. Twitch is only mentioned when speaking about how unstable other platforms can be.

[@christyshih6781]

@@kidstoyscarstoys6662 like you

[@julianiskool1255]

Lanie K. No the video isn’t just about ninja and mixer it’s about the downfall of twitch

[@iamkonner4813]

It’s funny because Mixer is now dead

[@fredettaboutit]

MOIST CRITICAL IS THROBBING

[@Ethan_Winters_]

@@astrocat1143 what? He got away with 10 million.

[@spades1234]

I miss mixer

[@Adam_S51]

@@spades1234 I don't

[@reallyyfunny0o048]

@@Adam_S51 i think that was sarcasm 😂

[@revolutionary_thoy]

i love how in the opening skit when all the characters laugh they're just bobbing up and down and steph just falls over from laughing

[@owedoe3407]

It's a COCONUT

[@solace2387]

@@owedoe3407 or is it?

[@someonewithabrain0]

Of course ninja gets a theory. Because ninja is a conspiracy himself.

[@moik4037]

LORD FOREHEAD

[@user-eh2kf3rz3y]

His big brain profile picture makes it even better

[@angeloireland576]

With that hair ninja has I'm suprized someone has kot said he escaped from area 51

[@mbo6896]

Well after mixer closed and he got 30 million dollars for less than a year yes I think it was worth it

[@quellodiprima1725]

he has been lucky

[@acerbd8784]

But after going back to twitch, his views have dropped drastically

[@veretxnerd983]

The bigger question is does anyone notice that KZbin is doing the thing that matpat said on this video. Like how timthetatman and tons of twitch streamers are going to youtube?

[@drzero7]

And news now, MIXER IS DEAD, bought by facebook. Yup, Matpat predicted this LUL.

[@wtprkek1847]

I hope Facebook doesn’t shut oculus down too

[@mamallama1020]

@@wtprkek1847 jesus christ you jinxed us

[@Crumbledink]

I watched MatPat's soul leave his body when he dabbed

[@ksm1le]

I watched my own soul leave my body when he dabbed

[@galaxydoes8034]

I watched someone else's soulleave their body when MatPat dabbed, and I stabbed them

[@gamerdrache6076]

@@galaxydoes8034 why u stab peolle

[@finalmonke2376]

Twitch: Did you do it? Ninja: Yes Twitch: What did it cost? Ninja : Nothing

[@R-JYYY]

Xavier Lau Funny *Laugh*

[@Unique007]

*꒒ ০ ⌵ ୧ ♡ intensified so much **#cringe*

[@Cathololo]

@@R-JYYY do you english my guy

[@R-JYYY]

C H I L L I B O W L I speak alphabet

[@CuppaTeaExe]

Here after Ninja got another $10M and going back to twitch after Mixer is getting shutdown

[@hgani87]

It was actually $30M 🥴

[@pollall2793]

This video aged like fine wine.

[@JoshQwerty]

Ikr considering ninja just made the greatest money heist on social media history

[@cameronjadewallace]

I understood that reference

[@whitiewhitie4631]

CrazzyCat Girl you simply have not unlocked the culture

[@thejuliusnow9754]

CrazzyCat Girl mixer’s gonne, the plataform is over and its gonna shift to Facebook live

[@thejuliusnow9754]

CrazzyCat Girl i mean, you didnt get why he said the video aged well, so i told you why ajsjajs

[@SBTheDemon]

Pat: *dabs* Me: It’s official. He’s evolving into an up to the time dad.

[@mylesknowles8814]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[@oatmeallxix9798]

*Pain Intensifies

[@akira-sm6mo]

Brady Da memer your profile pic made it so much better

[@umbreongaming8001]

Aaaaaaaaaagggggggghhhhhhhhh

[@normalsage1141]

MatPat: Ninja is the *MOST* popular gamer in the world. Pewdiepie: *Am I a joke to you?*

[@jacek4423]

Pewdiepie is meme lord

[@justmazen3168]

*100 million 9 year old screaching intensifies*

[@awildxcel]

He said one of the most famous

[@nyanscout3413]

Crilchan I wasn’t aware fortnite was a person

[@deznutes6689]

@@michealmclaughlin7781 you're gay

[@NecroticSpeedYT]

Ninja just pulled of the greatest legal heist of 2020.

[@alexandera6020]

Fr! 😂

[@angusdangus9828]

Shut up Boi why did you copy this comment from the ninja moving to mixer video

[@angusdangus9828]

I not trying to be that guy that hates on your comment I just wanna see something orignal

[@TheF0xskibidbopmmdada]

@@angusdangus9828 I wonder if two people could have the same idea at the same time

[@angusdangus9828]

@@TheF0xskibidbopmmdada hmm I wonder

[@kusino1224]

*Mat dabs* Me violently coughing: wHo TuRnEd OfF tHe AiR???

[@laundrybasketgamers]

That was Samurai, the new streamer that was signed to Blender

[@kanataslover]

Jesus

[@darkanddolly16]

@@laundrybasketgamers underrated comment

[@laundrybasketgamers]

Bakari Curry lmao I don’t even remember writing that hahaha

[@ithinkknot3564]

I remember when ninja first switched to mixer where everyone was talking about how he would be irrelevant in a few months and how it was the worst decision he ever made. I always knew that Ninja knew what he was doing, but MatPat shows just how smart Ninja actually was in this decision.

[@therealcactoos9457]

I Think Knot Oh, and don’t mention the fact that Twitch is sponsoring borderline twitch p0rnstars on Ninja’s former channel.

[@toast3940]

I completely agree with you, but I think it's more so Ninja's team and lawyers that got the deal for him

[@bigbangvince1903]

So Basically, it's a mixer Pewdiepie?

[@boxfox4879]

I hate you for calling Ninja smart

[@Lambda_Ovine]

Or rather, his team of managers and analysts. That dude is like an athlete. He plays good and that's it.

[@Orbitz2x]

Ninja: Change of Plans im going to Livestream on the Discovery Channel

[@extremegamer559]

Actually he tweeted he's switching to Nickelodeon

[@yellowbananago]

Actually, he told me personally that he's going to The history channel

[@ashwood1385]

Orbitz ツ I’ll start live streaming on the discovery channel if you know what I mean

[@shaokhan2845]

Yellow bananago History Channel at night is sketchy

[@konigweeb3072]

Nahh he said his going to pornhub now

[@thatsroughbuddy1407]

Matpat: *In the middle of grilling twitch for being unstable* me: *Gets a twitch ad*

[@emz1561]

I wanna know how much money technoblade makes......it sounds random but on youtube it seems like ALOT of people donate

[@Docbell60]

"Here's a load of free advise, hecc you don't even need to pay me" -Matt Patt 2019

[@phillipkubilius1564]

well u clearly need it on spelling. there is a thing called spellcheck. look it up.

[@shizukousapostle1stapostle710]

@@phillipkubilius1564 You need advice on how punctuations work?

[@arandomfireant4132]

Mat Pat*

[@maayanzilber2711]

Amazon: Oh did Ninja really leave Twitch? Matpat: Uploads a video about Ninja's move to Mixer being a bad decision Amazon: SPONSOR!!!!!!!!!

[@icegod4849]

I didn't realize that XD

[@danielpedraza6455]

Paid

[@PaladinGamingOfficial]

All very convenient

[@CreativeMindsAudio]

😂 omg i thought the same thing!

[@Roobar_Plays]

Obviously Audible,which is an Amazon company, sponsored him to trash on Mixer/Ninja...

[@arctixhype4505]

W h a t i f..... MatPat was paid by Amazon to say mixer made the wrong move here, Audible is by Amazon, Twitch is by Amazon. Remember thats just a theory a Game-ing Platform Theory

[@lordkanti8260]

👏👏👏👏

[@comicjustplays2065]

this needs more likes tbh /\

[@spaciousdoubledawg]

Big brain

[@smugfrog1041]

MIND BLOWN

[@phara3683]

@@lordkanti8260 Big brain

[@zacharymohammadi]

Ninja: * is most popular gamer * Pewds: * Laughs in 100 million subs, getting married, and Minecraft *

[@Dupylo]

Ninja is the most popular Competitive gamer*

[@diveinstructordaniel1095]

The world forgot about Thor aakerlund 😞

[@LXW-Arts]

Pewdiepie isnt a youtuber anymore every since 2012. He is more like a celebrity like a sell out celebrity who is the mascot for youtube.

[@stratant.8722]

@@LXW-Arts 😂😂😂PewDiePie the mascot of youtube? How stupid you are! KZbin doesn't care for PewDiePie, youtube cares just for T-Series so they can make money from the indians.

[@LXW-Arts]

@@stratant.8722 Pewdiepie and sssniperwolf pretty much at this point mascot for KZbin.

[@xosin7840]

I like how he sponsored audible in the start of the episode and said it like a joke so people would check the desc to see if it was legit.pretty smart

[@elizabethlawson7637]

Matpat, you should do a theory on how many balloons it actually takes to lift the house in up. ❤️Love ya

[@TheHermmmm]

The Mythbusters did an episode on that I think :)

[@willowhills9242]

Three to four weather balloons depending on the height, weight, and overall size of the house.

[@chardawg5911]

On Film Theory of course

[@dereklewis4321]

@@willowhills9242 Ya but how many regular balloons? Like the movie.

[@ZArocket]

That was an assignment in my science class, over 53 mill

[@thaias9654]

This is the first I've heard of Mixer, so yea, videos like this _are_ media exposure.

[@hetecks1385]

.... Do you have a Xbox? That's why.

[@aidymar3]

me 2

[@doriondouglas6176]

Yeah I only know of it cause of xbox then I switched to pc gaming a few years ago and just last heard of it like 2 weeks ago when my friends friend was streaming and ninja switched over

[@JP-wm1cc]

You are probably a PC gamer only thats why you havent heard of Mixer...its actually very good and offers good rewards to gamers.

[@adinatorngren3860]

Aww man it was 420

[@desmondkenway4952]

Sprint commercial, for the 50 billionth time: “the wait is finally over” Me: “are you going to let me skip your ad finally?”

[@SlySean44]

Matt: Microsoft lost a lot of money! Bill gates: Do I look poor to you?

[@ashielilystar6134]

@SlySean44 I know right I mean bill gates practically put the bill in billionaire

[@imakebadvideos]

Nope you still have Minecraft

[@revanthsallangula9437]

Audible's sponsoring this guy to cover why mixer had done a bad job. Audible- owned by Amazon Twitch- owned by Amazon I smell something fishy

[@Kydrou]

No. You probably heard it.

[@justsomeguywithahandlebarm2456]

Uuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh fbi open up

[@thinkedge11]

I don't think so. People will check out Mixer after this video just out of curiosity. And some might stay and watch some stream, so if at all this is more promotion for mixer.

[@JZlee100]

BUT HEY THATS JUST A THEORYY!!!

[@karmakinsmen1808]

@@Kydrou ....My goddess, that was good.

[@ASquared544]

Here’s an idea: Make a Theory about how someone would go about retiring from KZbin, because as far as I know, I don’t think anyone who does KZbin as a job has successfully retired from KZbin. People have quit KZbin, yes, but they have never jumped from KZbin straight to retirement. I get that KZbin is still a comparatively young website, so no one would have a chance to do this, but I think it would be an interesting topic to discuss.

[@Sanncheztv]

Maybe because KZbin is only about 15 years old ? And retiring usually start after someones 50, and essentially talking nobody have worked on youtube for 15 years and retirement usually takes 25 or more years

[@mmallowwxp]

I'd just be like YEET BYE.

[@D4rkThuNderplays]

Most youtubers invest while they are on KZbin, investments like condos and stuff like that so when they retire from KZbin they still have a source of income

[@NikolasPerez99]

You forgot about Marzia

[@nicholasaraujo3318]

Hmm what about leafy is here?

[@ab-zb8wr]

Everyone else: Twitch Mixer KZbin My country: Facebook gaming

[@echoalexander72]

That exists?

[@waffles9771]

maybe ur in the Philippines because there, the gaming celebs always streams there

[@WydeZ]

What

[@WydeZ]

I didn't know that existed lol

[@Gaming-2005]

Ah yes,facebook gaming is the most famous platform in South East Asia and thanks for mentioning it.

[@medabottpro9124]

Who else is here after the Mixer deal went south? I mean who knew. Apparently MatPat did

[@s4ndr3x98]

Therapist : ninja matpat doesnt exist he cant hurt you Ninja matpat:

[@chris-zb5zw]

natpat

[@snakedealer1341]

@@chris-zb5zw i hate this so much

[@greattitan371]

Minja

[@ashinthehouse1710]

I fear no man.. But that thing *Pat Dabbing in a terrible Ninja cosplay* It scares me

[@realcia4429]

j gnatpat

[@hiiamelecktro4985]

I wonder if Matpat needs to thinks about how to make a cringe intro, or if it comes naturally Edit: Welp my most liked comment ever is now one where I call one of my favorite youtubers a natural cringe. Love you Matpat, can’t wait for part 2

[@TrainmasterGT]

Hi i am Elecktro , if he’s anything like me, it comes naturally.

[@WinterFlare]

I hope it comes naturally 😂

[@brassy9425]

It would come natural. My friends say my sense of humor sucks mostly because it's dead memes. *dab*

[@user-gw4lt8tr5w]

If that happens 500.000 likes and 9999999999999999999999999 dislikes

[@strollas]

it's not cringy at all though

[@shawnlyons9474]

Can we get a follow up now that Mixer is closing?

[@BabishForIdiots]

I heard Ninja is on Grindr now

[@user-lb4ql8sh5p]

Yep. Ninja got the biggest W. He got free 30M and now going back to twitch lol

[@unamusedwaffle]

It’s 🅴🅿🅸🅲 how Matpat is arguing that the Mixer deal is bad, and Amazon owns both audible and Twitch

[@poultryjester2135]

Dark Evix Hol up

[@SymbioteMullet]

That may be why he's making the fridge full of cash stand out so much and make ominous noises... His integrity is calling for help beneath the weight of a contract!

[@schlattdid9861]

Symbiote Mullet so if a company offered you a huge sum to leave your platform you wouldn’t?

[@angelmendez-rivera351]

Samurai ‘ Ditto.

[@henrybarber288]

He’s not saying mixer is bad just that they made a bad decision. (Also remember that he said using twitch is a bad idea for a streamer because it’s unstable)

[@TheLibermania]

"DAB to you too, Sir." *Dab* I need to remember that for my co-worker.

[@cereskerrigan]

I can feel my braincells wilting and popping every time anyone mentions that damned meme.

[@TheLibermania]

@@cereskerrigan and why?

[@rowanmorgan9400]

Epicly dabs

[@donaldchandler2520]

@@cereskerrigan He referenced Ugandan Knuckles also-- he shall fall before us, for he posted cringe. He will lose subscriber. Or not

[@jgguest9396]

When is matt gonna finish his petscop series?

[@koexu]

so who's here after ninja took the biggest W?

[@WhatIMakeIsRandom]

At least we can say it’s a fact instead of a theory now.

[@sekiko7183]

At least Mixer doesn't support throwing cats.

[@cookie1906]

Sekiko Gaming yeah or banning for no reason

[@sekiko7183]

@@cookie1906 Throws Cat: Accidently Drops Pet Catfish: *B A N*

[@ItzRDz]

Or promoting porn

[@chimp1561]

Oh ya mixer isn't full of white Knight fucks

[@zerotwoisbest1946]

but do they support microwaving cats

[@kylesbrokenspine3343]

Love how the intros get cringier and cringier every video but we all keep watching them instead of skipping because they are still awesome.

[@MeMelon]

I think he just acknowledges it and keeps going lol. Love them still

[@pluralkumquat]

In what world is $50,000 a month not enough money to live on? I barely make 30k a year and I'm super comfortable.

[@trololologram4987]

Taxes, if you have a lot of assets, you have to make a lot of money to be able to pay for the taxes $100,000 a year is needed to maintain $10,000,000 of assets.

[@piguyalamode164]

Well that would be true naively, but remember this is an average. And because KZbin/twitch/mixer is very volatile it is more like 50k this year, literally 0 next year, and 76k the year after that

[@drizzyrauvryar6992]

In a world where you spend $50,000 on your haircut every month. Ninja cant survive without it.

[@mattischastan7967]

Mat doesn't say "enough money to live", he talks about "stability". If Ninja goes down the toilet next year due to fall of audience, here goes his "revenue / month". And then hope he made enough before, and live cheap enough from then on, to survive his whole life. Your wealth is about "HOW MUCH" you make X "HOW LONG". Suppress one, and you're down.

[@someonedraws4208]

Yeah but u most likey provide for yourself and live in an apartment, a person with a family to maintain and a mirage on a car and a house, 30k is not enough

[@nathanbcrazy931]

Well, we saw how this worked out

[@bob321i6]

Hmmmm Matpat is saying that this deal was a bad idea BUT he is also being sponsered by audible who is owned by amazon who owns twitch... Edit: I'm not saying hes biased I just felt like I should point out that to the naked eye it might seem a little fishy which I probably should have mentioned before hand

[@violetlavi2207]

Bob321i I don’t think he’s biased, since he talked about this on GTeaLive and had similar sentiments (before the sponsorship), but you’re right, it’s a strange coincidence

[@awesomeguy9513]

May has been biased and clouded/stretches the truth times in his past. Also amazon is a power house so amazon giving matpat a “push” to make ninja choice look bad is possible

[@violetlavi2207]

@@awesomeguy9513 but my point is that he expressed similar views in the GTeaLive a week or so ago, before this sponsorship existed. So it isn't a bias thing

[@currenrajan6250]

MatPat and Steph had already said that they thought it was a bad decision for Mixer on a recent GTeaLive livestream from a couple of weeks ago.

[@cxrlos817]

Lmao basically both matpat and ninja sold out

[@ShiningMew]

Matpat as much as I love your videos I swear if I end up with a bunch of Ninja and Fortnite content in my recommend your making a minion rush theory.

[@samgarcia4624]

Lol

[@louissykes2406]

*you’re

[@snaptrak3680]

This comment gets better the more you read it..

[@wan4885]

Not to be one of THOSE people, but you're not your. Your is possessive. Okay now i go annoy other peoples comments and correct them if i can.

[@priceless5334]

Minion rush does not have enough to do with it to make a theory

[@spicykiller7779]

Well 9 months later and its safe to say it was worth it. Man pulled a heist right dere

[@koexu]

lmao

[@horsehorsehorsehorse8500]

"Yes! You with the face!" Dont we all have faces? Except that guy with a suit *Points at Slender Man*

[@hawk_ish2265]

He probably wasnt worth it, but Ninja saw 10 million dollars, it makes him dumb to not accept.

[@YAMMAS]

Wasn't it 100 million? Edit: Ok cool I was right for once

[@rolen1684]

@@YAMMAS yeah

[@rolen1684]

It was 100 million

[@sharkbait_jamz2693]

StupidMarioBros no it wasn’t, Ninja said it wasnt

[@balcanis5394]

@@sharkbait_jamz2693 he is STUPID mario bros what do you expect

[@gabeostberg8105]

Me: *Sees yellow in game theory logo* Brain: THEORY MODE ACTIVATE!!

[@z-beeblebrox]

It's been there for the past several episodes, yeah

[@pizzatime8917]

@@z-beeblebrox but why, why would you wanna do that?

[@BiggisFoot]

He just is trying to recreate Simon says.

[@galaxydoes8034]

MUSIC THEORY INTENSIFIES

[@gustavowadaslopes2479]

And today he revealed the blue: Platform Theory (or consultant theory)

[@gioootalks4850]

What a prediction

[@CARMENRodriguez-ch7sd]

Ninja: laughs in getting 30M$

[@CallMeVidd]

Matpat: "ninja's the most popular content creator *PewDiePie wants to know your location*

[@harleenhufflepuff340]

*on Twitch

[@end6637]

Do I smell an r/woooosh

[@forgetfulicekin222]

R/whoosh to myself to cool myself off

[@diousthomas8878]

@@DarkPyroZero Any proof or are you just a hater who is sad that people don't love you and the fact that he makes tons of money. People like you are the reason we stray further from good-hearted.

[@mac_n_cheesie]

Dious Thomas wat

[@GamemonYT]

Can’t wait for part 2 MatPat! I love your videos on things like Economics. (Not joking, I like looking into the human thought process)

[@taznixx1126]

very cool

[@brisky3252]

Ok

[@snowstorm0242VODS]

Ur famous!

[@Spalky]

Oof

[@Spalky]

CFG idoit

[@MAWRS-_-]

who is here when ninja made 30 million from leaving mixer

[@gabeharrison7683]

I hope he revamps this video now that mixer shut down... 🤔

[@nelferthelegend6995]

I've never heard of mixer until this video so we already know where this is going

[@cassidyasmr797]

Same. And regarding ninja I've only ever heard bad things about him

[@mirai9242]

@@cassidyasmr797 lol

[@AirNeat]

He only recently signed with them so seems like it's going well. Not really gonna directly affect anyone besides Ninja fanbase, but maybe over time it will have made a significant impact

[@pinkclouds1292]

@@cassidyasmr797 I never even heard of Ninja until I saw this video

[@peehawk2518]

are you living under a rock some people have never heard of pewdiepie but that doesn’t mean he channel is gonna die

[@theoinnes1266]

A video sponsored by audible, made by amazon, is about how mixer shouldn't have bought ninja off twitch, an amazon company. *Seems legit*

[@ZealotKnight]

I respect and enjoy game theory but he has a point^

[@omarelbeblawi4970]

Ok but let’s be honest, this game theory was coming either way. I doubt they were influenced much by where the money comes. Also Matpat and Steph already voiced their opinions on Tea Series (GTlive) and it boils down to basically the same thing

[@calotah]

I dont think this video had any conflict of intrest.

[@danielpedraza6455]

Paid

[@rowanfernsler9725]

Yeah, pretty normal

[@astra4598]

MatPat is a goddamn prophet Mixer is shutting down

[@avsterbone]

I think this is the first time a theory has actually been seen through.

[@yenxo_]

Started the video with roasting ninja Thats what i call a pro gamer move.

[@kv-2450]

Alnu GT *Modern problems require modern solutions*

[@suddentitan1016]

THE FRICK YOU SAY TO ME YOU LITTLE SHIZ?

[@Jonny_bo1]

That is a true pro gamer move

[@BrandonGiesing]

A couple points: 1. You didn't take into account that Ninja used to be a big competitive Halo player before Fortnite. Who owns Halo and is currently developing the next huge game in the franchise? Microsoft. They clearly have something to gain from their "star" streamer being good at and able to promote their biggest gaming franchise. 2. Video is sponsored by an Amazon company, probably not the best move as it's a conflict of interest, especially with you ending that the deal is bad makes it look like Amazon paid you to say Mixer is bad. Even if not true, you should definitely address this as it makes the channel look untrustworthy. Edit: Just want to address some of the points below: 1. "Who cares if he used to play Halo, he doesn't anymore" Ninja has stated before that he lost a lot of viewers and money when he didn't stream at all or streamed anything other than Fortnite. Microsoft could've very easily said something like "We will give you a stable paycheck so you can play anything you want as long as you agree to be the "spokesperson" for our franchise since we know you like Halo and stream on our platform". Obviously we don't know the full details so Halo might not be involved but it's definitely a possible point to consider in favor of the deal possibly being good for Microsoft. Heck literally right now as I edit this, Ninja is streaming Minecraft instead of Fortnite, another Microsoft owned game. 2. "It's Audible, not Twitch so it's not a conflict" It definitely is, Amazon owns both and is the one who makes decisions for both, having anything Amazon owned sponsoring this is a clear conflict even if they didn't affect the final opinion. It would be the same also if a Microsoft owned property instead sponsored the video (Xbox, Windows, Azure, etc.) even if the outcome was still "Mixer made a not good deal", of course it would be dumb if they would sponsor a video like that but it would still be a conflict just being in the video even if the outcome is negative for the sponsor. 3. I'm just posting my thoughts on this, everyone doesn't have to agree with each other but there's no need for insulting others like is happening below. We can discuss differences of opinion without insulting people with fancy words.

[@encryptedflame8532]

This comment is too underated

[@juleswagner6250]

FACTS

[@awesomerango]

He never said Mixer was bad, just that it may not have been the right move to make.

[@annduren]

commenting so matt that matt sees this comment

[@richardr.3654]

@@DocumentGaming halo mcc is #2 on the wishlist on steam, only behind cyberpunk. think again fool

[@baldfield6965]

Well this ended well 😬

[@tobi1234100]

Well, this video aged well... :)

[@ayaalturas1173]

"Yes, you with the face" this is actually what i do when i forget someones name........lol

[@kyhoney]

Aya Alturas I’m going to start using it lol

[@jaylafield415]

Same

[@ayaalturas1173]

epic XD

[@yeehawpartner1922]

Whether you copied this comment or thought of it yourself, don’t repost the same comment, it just looks like you’re trying to get likes

[@gpproject1548]

@@yeehawpartner1922 did some one say like beggera

[@isaaczavala4916]

"Dabs to you too, sir" *dabs with pride

[@LlamaGem]

I’ve been with this channel for years, and I’ve seen many different intros, and I really like it

[@kallininu1236]

LlamaGem that really says something about the things you like in life

[@just_some_dude019]

11:06 Twitch and Mixer: *Nuclear War* KZbin, all the way at the top: ...how cute.

[@freemindstuff6016]

peasants being noisy again

[@ghostlyflamingo07]

Ok fine.

[@galaxydoes8034]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHikdHp8fqdqmdE MatPat's new Undertale Theme?

[@stan4234]

Oh let KZbin have it's fun, it's time will come soon enough

[@WindowsEater]

Article 13: “Did someone call me?”

[@MAK-Man]

No. Ninja is not worth it. But hey that's a theory, *A GAME THEORY*

[@icarusa.4757]

And cut

[@amnora]

Is it a theory thou Or a fact

[@pequenolobo3195]

Amnora Twili oooo the suspense

[@owenlo2676]

That's not a theory

[@MAK-Man]

@@amnora fact

[@ballex9581]

Been here since the Chrono Trigger's Time Travel video, and your vids will still never get old

[@CaptainLass]

It may just be me, but can I say that I noticed the editing on this episode was really good! Keep up the good work!

[@colorsrrealduh]

MatPat ninja: “I’d stream on a nutra-bullet if they paid me hahaha” What about on a samsung smart fridge?

[@ESP3DINA]

What about a calculator?

[@kryph1]

What about a Nokia 500?

[@josephmama8836]

i'm ngl i heard that when i read that

[@ramlethalvalentinedestroye1784]

Nothing about this video was funny you simple-minded fool

[@shinisaber]

Always spell it syke

[@datdoggerboi]

I actually didn't know Mixer existed until now.

[@tiffanysmith3783]

Kubalson same

[@MrRenegadeshinobi]

Neither did I

[@nikopitinii7003]

Not even watching the video. He got the biggest victory royal of all time

[@zinoma]

It's clear you didn't watch it. The question is whether it was worth it to MIXER. The answer is no. It was a good deal on ninja's part but not on mixers.

[@bluebeanieee]

Audible: *is owned by amazon who also owns twitch* MatPat: “I’m gonna do what’s called a ‘pro gamer move’”

[@vikingursigurdsson]

Day 4 of asking game theory to explain ark's story.

[@toxint]

Víkingur Sigurðsson I’ll spam this as well.

[@skyrajpal3923]

Víkingur Sigurðsson keep trying

[@ladybloomer4053]

Just keep asking

[@seniorpanda2312]

Brother please this is a great idea

[@arv_is]

day 4 or video 4?

[@kidbackwards5258]

“Ninja is the most famous gamer” Pewdiepie: say sike right now

[@davidhenry4789]

@Babycupquake33 it's actually sike

[@radslime307]

Ink

[@drifter6870]

I SAID RIGHT NOW!

[@bepisbann982]

ultra tajin kid doesn’t matter? He’s still the gamer most non gamer ppl would recognize asshole

[@ThisGuyDrives]

ultra tajin kid and yet here you are watching a video about him and commenting about him. So pathetic.

[@DenSoua]

Dang. Everytime when Matpat gets that low creepy music on, it always gives me the chills but I love it 😄

[@Videogamechad]

I think that was the smoothest ad in a KZbin video I ever seen not intrusive on the video what so ever

[@PsyKwol]

Did anyone else see the despair in his face when he dabbed?

[@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz]

i LOLed and now everyone in my house is looking at me weird XD

[@garycoleman115]

Yeah part of his soul cracked away as Hes left there speechless with one tear coming down his eye as he is left there paralyzed for what he had just done

[@clamluvr]

MatPat: Nobody knew what Mixer was until Ninja Xbox Players: am i a joke to you? Edit: thx for the likes guys

[@aadavan4570]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@IWannaCry123]

I know right? I have been streaming on mixer with 2 followers ( flex) for a long time and I’m surprised that no one knew about it

[@guz9163]

@@aadavan4570 yo angelo🗿

[@D0g1234]

Bane_Aegis lmao yea

[@vegaextra7929]

Don't forget about the Paladins players that have to watch the streams on mixer to get mixer points

[@Frazier16]

Well this aged well now didn't it?

[@drream2252]

the intro was actually pretty good, like the way you led up to the actual theory video, lol

[@sugarguns7279]

"I'd stream on a nutra-bullet if they paid me enough" - matpat 2019

[@sugarguns7279]

@@bronsonb2223 yes , how do you think i flipping got here ,i aint adopted xD

[@bronsonb2223]

lola faithxoxo Ok I didn't think you would respond lmao but That's good because I came out the same way

[@blitty7822]

me too

[@sayonara288]

@@bronsonb2223 youtube is 13yrs and up ,heres the door

[@bronsonb2223]

Sayonara ohhhhhh yeahhhhhhh

[@sony9161]

We NEED a video about the KZbin algorithm where the AI took down robot fighting videos.

[@ChiefYoshi]

NoChillChicken ikr. Like how tf is that animal cruelty

[@hi6575]

Big brain

[@Blazemoth]

So that's why I can't find any samurai robot fights anymore.

[@Hammertime_1235]

yeah really (not trying to act smart)

[@platinumlcg8983]

That legit was the coolest intro on the game theory channel as if ever!!!

[@pentecostalgarlicbread]

Rewatching old theories and everytime I see food theory yellow I add a food theory to my queue lol

[@SAVVYAZE]

This actually helped me understand KZbin twitch and other platforms like this thanks mattphatt

[@otumei]

phatt

[@kei8620]

*_*phatt*_*

[@Dilawar-Khan]

mattfat

[@Kuumin]

MattPhattAss

[@AirNeat]

"FREE ADVICE... heck you don't even need to pay me for it"

[@violetlavi2207]

Air-N I noticed that too XD why would you ever need to pay for free advice?

[@LumeanTV]

@@violetlavi2207 advice shipping

[@violetlavi2207]

@@LumeanTV ah that's true

[@scythusentertainment2531]

I learn so much from these. I feel like I'm taking a gaming channel class. Which is a series i'd watch btw.

[@sreysstreams6630]

Awesome video as always keep it up!

[@abia5752]

"if you ask a person who the most famous gamer is they'll probably say ninja" me: pewdiepie

[@hadleylauren5969]

PanicAtTheShibe exactly what I said haha also love your name

[@sunthorn4782]

That was me too

[@theonebman7581]

Honestly I had never even heard about this Ninja guy before lmao

[@HunterX05]

Markiplier

[@thedead073]

Sure, cause Pewdiepie is a gamer

[@taneli5026]

Also a huge problem with twitch is it being picky who they enforce ToS on. Good example is Alinity cat throwing a month back.

[@paulthompson8793]

Think the same thing doesn't happen on ANY other platform? I can think of plenty of youtubers that have done some pretty horrible stuff and didn't get punished because they pull in the views. Money is everything to the corporations.

[@psychochief5090]

@@paulthompson8793 Literally no one said only twitch has that problem. Just because it's a common mistake, doesnt mean we should excuse it.

[@nendymion]

@@paulthompson8793 I would agree with that. For youtube that's considered the norm though especially with it's constantly shifting policies so noone ever really knows what the actual rules are at any given time and big youtubers to get punished every now and then. Just look at PewDiePie and Logan. Twitch on the other hand hasn't changed their ruleset at random like youtube does. KZbin isn't always as blatant about their protection of their bigger stars while Twitch has been more brazen about it recently where two entirely different people can break the same rule and only one of them gets punished for it and that's what's pissing people off, Twitch has made it quite public that they regard their high end streamers as being better than everyone else and will bend the rules for them and not even give them a temporary ban. For instance in Alinity's case all people wanted was to at least see her get suspended for her actions and that didn't even happen and she's not even the worst of them. There are streamers on the site that produce near pornagraphic material that don't see punishment on a site that permabans you for that exact thing even if by mistake.

[@paulthompson8793]

@@psychochief5090 Think you need to read the op again chief, clearly trying to paint this as a twitch only problem when it isn't. Also literally was never trying to excuse the problem, again please read before u make a fool of yourself.

[@chrissyoons]

Twitch is just sexist

[@moryakov4165]

I’d never heard of ninja before last month I just have a mental block to fortnite

[@Akira-Aerins]

read that as diorite

[@Derpy_G]

Gotta love the KZbin recommendations. Mixer dying? Here is the person who predicted it!

[@sreekar2151]

Ninja: Change of Plans im going to Livestream on PornHub

[@kalebbandy1148]

😂😂😂

[@tropicthunder919]

“Gimmie that Slurp juice

[@hughbukowski4810]

I just gave you your 69th like. Your Welcome.

[@africheeseyoutube]

_insert ninja twerking_

[@peanut6081]

Wow 😂

[@toastypunda5648]

I love that you site your sources at the bottom of the description. Just like high school.

[@encryptedjc1772]

Wdym just like high school? If not it would be plagiarism...

[@moorland6735]

Cite

[@happycamperds9917]

It’s not MLA8. 20 points off.

[@lupiniv5440]

*love

[@yerischerries3010]

Not MIA citing. F

[@PurpleArrow_o7]

Matpat has to be one of the only KZbinrs to actively discuss his Revenue.

[@kingcubing793]

“Shifting safety regulations” That was a secret call out to KZbin lol