Sonic Forces FIXED! (in comics, anyway) | Sonic Speed Reading

[@skizzlers2756]

I wish Sega would let Sonic be more expressive. Imo Sonic's personality is what makes him so much better than Mario, and I think they should build off of that instead of toning it down.

[@SludgePuppy.]

We just need a 3d sonic game that has a good story and gameplay that helps sonic back into the spotlight and they should let other characters and sonic have personality like take blaze for example they dont even talk about that character anymore and the character was good so was silver there is so much more potential that they don't use

[@funnysonicman]

Definitely guys. I was watching Sonic Unleashed cutscenes the other day and it was crazy how much Sonic seemed to be going through after Amy didn’t recognize him. I know it may not sound like much but it really is, especially compared to the modern Sonic from the most recent main game, Forces😑

[@skizzlers2756]

@@funnysonicman exactly! In that cutscene in Unleashed I felt bad for Sonic! I wanted to hug him and tell him everything would be alright and it made me want to complete the game even more! When characters emote we feel for them. In Forces they built up all this tension saying Eggman's conquered everything, there's a war going on, Sonic's been imprisoned and TORTURED for MONTHS for god's sakes, and then when you find him he's as bright and as sunny as ever. All that tension fell flat on it's face because if our hero isn't the least bit concerned, why should we be?

[@Iam-cz1ot]

Agreed The funny part is in Mania when you look up as any character they have a different expression Sonic’s is him looking curious What ever happened to that

[@alphabeta2100]

@@funnysonicman Agreed. Even though Unleashed has character changes or inconsistencies (tbf not all stories are perfect), at least it wasn't to the same range/magnitude as a game like Forces

[@Sonic171K]

Ngl, I kinda like this version of Amy. It makes some sense. She was serious in Forces too.

[@Iam-cz1ot]

I find it weird how they made Tails a crybaby, but they made Amy grow as a character

[@EggFighterXB-]

@@Iam-cz1ot It was an overreaction from Lost World Tails

[@Iam-cz1ot]

I really hope they start to make Tails grow again in the next game It’s probably not gonna happen unfortunately

[@EggFighterXB-]

@@Iam-cz1ot They will overreact from Forces and bring back Lost World Tails

[@rappingbeaniedog347]

if they keep this up, Amy might even be better than Sally. Sally is unfortunately dead forever. If Amy can be quirky and cute while having leadership roles she's trying to grow into while toning down her worst traits, she'll be pretty awesome and finally a character I can enjoy. Too bad most of that personality seems to be from the comics and not the game, where she feels like she has very little personality.

[@kaseycombs6968]

My favorite part of the IDW run right now is Flynn’s portrayal of Silver. As a Silver fan, I love what he’s doing with Silver and how he works knowledge of the future into the plot. Silver’s also just an adorable dork throughout the entire run, which I love, too.

[@xnortheast1106]

Nah

[@tanyaharmon6739]

@@xnortheast1106 nah

[@handlename88]

@@tanyaharmon6739 nah

[@tanyaharmon6739]

@@handlename88 nah

[@deeznuts1568]

@@tanyaharmon6739 nah

[@edgelord8337]

How sonic forces portrayed tails was basically a mess. He acts as if he can do nothing to help and says sonic help me if I'm sure Tails beat chaos 2 and has helped best eggmans empire Out of Angel island. Now he's back to relying on sonic as if he hasn't beaten things stronger than that fake chaos. These guys did a way better job with forces than sega. Doesn't help the fact that these guys worked on the notoriously violent happy tree friends.

[@FIRSTEBITOS]

hello edge lord! how you fell the way shadow was portraied in the comics? do you like or u think it shadow have come back to pre 06 status as "edge over anything"

[@zooooooooom]

THEY MADE HAPPY TREE FRIENDS?!

[@Mr.06_]

@@zooooooooom no the writers of the games did.

[@zooooooooom]

@@Mr.06_ Yeah, that's what I meant

[@G5onicDmi]

@@zooooooooom yes

[@TheDragonJesse]

100% agree. I'm glad you addressed the Sally Vs Amy debate. The two handle leadership completely differently.

[@bella_daze3092]

Bro I didn’t know it was a thing until now lmao lol

[@mediamuncher6982]

"sOnIc hElP mE" - Tails 2017 Also I'm glad that tails in the Idw comics he has a personality in comics because he is like sonic adventure 1-2,heros,sonic 2,3,tails adventure thank you sonic writers your doing great.

[@rainpooper7088]

Honestly, they should have just replaced Tails’ voice actor with Luigi screaming *”Hyyyyiiiiiaaaaeeeelp!”*

[@superepictoadbros6898]

@@rainpooper7088 Sonic, wherever you are. *HEEELLLLLLPPPP*

[@masterbison8957]

"Sooooooonic! Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp! Help me, Sonic!"

[@mediamuncher6982]

@@masterbison8957 lol

[@masterbison8957]

Oh, and it's "sOnIc... pleeeeeeeeeeeez..." now. Not that Tails is the only character who has regressed, mind you. Eggman:"Metal Sonic, kill for daddy!" Oh, so you're his "daddy" and he's your little bitch? Cause the first story arc gave me the impression that they'd actually let him be something more than Eggman's mindless puppet for once. And i was never fond of how they've been portraying Knuckles and Shadow from the very beginning.

[@Square1nes]

Wasn't tails being his own hero part of his theme in adventure "Gotta be strong wanna be like him"

[@VincentEternal]

MR.NuclearBlade 07 well I’m guessing the writers for sonic forces didn’t remember that.

[@DarkShadic9632]

Also, he defeats a giant spider at the end of his story and is like, “Wow, I’m mister cool strong man!”

[@Mysticgamer]

And his theme in SA2.

[@onijester56]

Yes and no. Yes in that this WAS his character arc in Adventure, and how his gameplay operated in Adventure 2. The anti-precision platforming of Heroes was also semi-critical in this portrayal, because Tails' flight was the thing that made his character archetype distinct within the Speed/Flight/Power core of the game. But, well, after Heroes the games went pretty head-strong into Sonic as the focus. I wouldn't be above betting the entirety of my "Corona Stimulus Check" that Sonic Unleashed wouldn't have been as controversial if the Were-hog stages were instead treated as "Knuckles stages". Sonic Colors gave Sonic special temporary abilities, when you know full-well that other characters are known for doing those types of things...but fuck that, right? Fuck anyone who's not Sonic, because Sonic is Sonic!

[@Mysticgamer]

@@onijester56 Very true, I really hate that Sonic Team makes all these friends for sonic, then don't do anything with them. If they refined the characters gameplay and gave characters important things to do the games could be even better.

[@theta9273]

I feel like Sonic Team should really take notes on how Ian handles the Sonic cast, both with the IDW comics and the Archie comics that came before it.

[@Mysticgamer]

I feel sonic team should pay Ian or any of the IDW writers for a script to their next game. I'd buy a squel to forces if Ian handled the writing.

[@thevenom2731]

@@Mysticgamer the gameplay would also have to be good tho.

[@mrchoochooguy4045]

This aged perfectly

[@Duplo_N]

Thank God he is going to write the next game

[@nomadspeed]

​This aged so perfectly

[@mcmistle9892]

For me personally, my love for the IDW comics ultimately boils down to the near excellent characterization for the characters, as Sonic Forces did such a poor job at portraying almost every character in the game. Sonic is cool and cocky, but knows when the situation needs to be taken seriously. Tails doesn’t feel like a sidekick and feels more like a partner to Sonic and crew. IDW even managed to make me start liking Silver, a character who I wasn’t even all that fond of to begin with. Everyone feels like a competent hero in their own right that makes up a Resistance, rather than just a back up team for Sonic while he handles the main boss.

[@alejandrolozano4919]

I remember that sonic adventure 2 when Eggman going to send sonic to space to blow up sonic tell tails to stand up when he fall. He take he place

[@magicalpencil]

I don't trust Amy, she is the only one who wears clothes

[@GameApologist]

I never trust ANYONE who wears clothes.

[@ninjawafflezz5356]

I always knew Charmy was a little traitor all along

[@siraxolot4262]

No wonder Sonic and Blaze fight in Rush!

[@deyvantwo5426]

Clothes are overrated

[@xnortheast1106]

Deyvan Salez no

[@striderzvezda7420]

I personally do not understand where this "Amy is a Sally clone" argument comes from other than a misplaced sentiment of frustration from SatAM/Archie fans... and I say misplaced, because Sega nor Sonic Team are at fault since Amy was always meant to be the lead female character, while Sally is more the product of a spinoff cartoon and hardly the important part of the franchise many people say she is, especially considering that the only reason she and the FF's were kept around was because of the Archie staff rather than a direct instruction from Sega. Other than both being leaders in their respective universes, that's pretty much where the similarities end. Sally is a leader because she comes from a royal family and therefore is a figure of authority whom others have to follow. In contrast, Amy's leadership come from her personality and charisma, with others following her lead because they choose to. I also disagree with the idea that Amy's leadership is something new brought up out of nowhere. In Sonic Heroes, we see her lead her own team on a rescue mission. This was essentially the next logical step in her character development because previously in SA1, we see Amy grown into a heroine by herself and helping a helpless bird. In Heroes, she now helps characters who much like her, had no experience and guides them throughout their adventure, always keeping their morale, believing in them and never letting them give up whenever they felt scared or their hope faltered. And it's not only in Heroes, but also the comics and cartoons were Amy displays sparks of being a natural born hero... Even in the second issue of Archies' Sonic Megadrive, after Sonic decides to go solo, we see how Knuckles makes an attempt to lead that does not result well for poor Tails, while Amy succeeds because she encourages team work and has a way to bring people together. Another argument I've seen is the issue of her being too young and no mature enough... And while that is certainly true, personally I don't think that maturity matters because being a leader is a question of attitude, not maturity. An example of this is John Connor in Terminator 2, who despite being around the same age as Amy, also displays leadership qualities despite his age and even flaws (since he is a delinquent kid), being one of the more important scenes the one where Sarah tries to smash the CPU of the good Terminator, which John stops her from doing and makes Sarah realize that she is holding him back from becoming the leader humanity will need when she refuses to trust his judgement. Of course, Amy can't do everything on her own, and it's here were her rriends and the other characters come into play. In the IDW comic, we even see some like Blaze who offers advise and input on her plans, like when they went to liberate Angel Island. IMO, Amy is not a Sally clone nor a fill-in. She is her own character and earned the role on nothing but her very own merit. To say otherwise is to brush off all the development invested in Amy, which is in line with one of the key traits of her persobality: having a strong desire to help others. Her only reason to take on the role is not because of personal recognition, fame or duty... It's the people in need. This is why she politely refused Sonic's invitation to join his adventures in IDW#2 and why she formed the Restoration to help people rebuild their world after Knuckles literally quit out of boredom and without even bothering to tell her.

[@mistushipper]

YES. THANK U. UR ABSOLUTELY RIGHT AND IM MORE THAN HAPPY WITH THIS ESSAY. AMAZING BROSKI!!

[@MelancholiaLapelada]

THANK YOU! Somebody have to say it

[@johntingler4649]

So true

[@hdnimbus073]

Well put. 😁👍

[@starscrambled]

Honestly, the IDW comics do a pretty good job at portraying these characters, even with the limits Sega puts on them (like shadow...who’s probably the most eeghh character unfortunately :[ ) like .i genuinely felt hurt when a handful of the characters became zombots in this arc, my gosh.

[@Jamfrog35]

Agreed... both on how Ian handles it and how Shadow was portrayed. Shadow to me is in similar case to batman in the sonic series than a simple vegeta character. They are both heroes in their own right but does things their way. they both have a terrible past that bring them to what they are today, and despite being the big loner, he has a family of his own after losing his first one [Rouge and Omega]. In truth, if they kept the inhibitor rings idea, if they focus on that core idea for both the comics and games instead of making him a rival, I would like Shadow more. [In truth, I feel like that's what Ian was aiming for with his first introduction in the IDW series, but I guessed SEGA wanted a different approach]. Who knows, maybe SEGA will allow it, but we will have to wait and see.

[@broom2839]

Friendship ended with Cybershell. Now Game Apologist is my best friend.

[@not7170]

Cybershell ain’t coming back

[@tariqdotpng546]

sadly

[@DedeHedge]

@@aortaplatinum Packed his bags and Went

[@TheRealHedgehogSonic]

Agreed. Game Apologist is: 1. More consistent 2. Keeps promises and doesn't steal 3 (This one's important). Doesn't misuse the word "autistic"

[@mechajay3358]

@@not7170 Never say Never

[@funnysonicman]

I wish the characterization was this good in the games, it would be so fun Instead of “It’s been gEnErAtIoNs since I’ve seen you buddy buddy!” Thanks anyway Ian Flynn👏

[@MDWolfe-ks5fu]

I think, for knuckles, the word you’re looking for is “motivation.” Knuckles entire motivation is protecting the master Emerald.

[@chocov1233]

I'd say it's his apart of his family, culture, and ancestry. His bloodline is intrinsically tied to the Master Emerald and Angel Island to the point where he can physically feel if they are disturbed. If it wasn't for Knuckles' isolation on Angel Island then he wouldn't be as gullible, overly serious, or even probably as good of a treasure hunter. I Knuckles could put a leash on Angel Island and bring it with him, he would.

[@MDWolfe-ks5fu]

Chocov 123 Those too.

[@chocov1233]

@@MDWolfe-ks5fu Yours was also good. 👍

[@ScapeVEVO]

I really like that now that Amy’s grown and matured past “girl with crush” she actually has a lot more chemistry with Sonic and plays off him well, it’s cute, and it’s fun

[@boring_yt8324]

I kind of wish that the writing team from the comics and Sonic team can just come together and make a game from the comics. Or at least have the future games be based off the comic series.

[@paperluigi6132]

That and include fans who truly feel how the characters/lore should be written.

[@chocov1233]

@@paperluigi6132 Fans have too many contradicting opinions. Sega/Sonic Team should only bring on proffesionals and people who have proven themselves capable of participating in a team project and sacrificing their ability to have their ideas implemented from time to time.

[@MegaSonic94]

Not even the blessings of Ian Flynn's "make characters good" can fix Shadow, I hate what Shadow has become, I miss the "I will protect earth and my team" in SA2 and 06 and not "friends are weak" or "I don't need anyone" in Boom and TSR

[@GameApologist]

To be frank, I sorta rolled my eyes with Shadow and kept going forward. That said, it DOES need to be addressed, and I hope they handle this a little better going forward. Certainly wont be the last time we see Shadow.

[@striderzvezda7420]

I don't think the way Shadow was portrayed was Flynn's fault. Ever since Sonic Boom, Sega has been pushing the idea that Shadow is esentially Vegeta and will seek any opportunity to antagonize Sonic... Logic and character development be dammned.

[@MegaSonic94]

Strider Zvezda yeah, Sega has been writing Shadow like this since Sonic Boom

[@jdudehl6079]

I feel like after 06, they made Shadow’s character way too much like Vegeta..Sure, Shadow may not be a very cheery fella but he doesn’t need to become a Vegeta clone lol. I like how they portrayed him in 06. He felt like a dark hero that didn’t waste time and got to the point, but he didn’t do it alone.

[@lynxfresh5214]

Just another stupid retcon, remember when Shadow swore to always honour Maria's last wish to protect the earth? However thanks to Sega forcing the two worlds concept into canon, the "Earth" is consider the human world while Sonic and Co come from a different world in a different dimension (despite the lore of the adventure games as well as unleashed saying otherwise). So either Shadow broke his oath to Maria OR Sega have erased Shadow's character development in the adventure era? (either option is stupid considering SA2, Heroes and Shadow's own game all took place in IDWs continuity). And notice we've got planet Wisp and the Earth yet neither Sonic nor Blaze's world's are given names?

[@segastars9802]

I can't help but laugh and smile with joy as I read the comments on this video. The personalities of Sonic, Tails, Amy and Knuckles is all based off the Adventure games, an era of Sonic, SEGA wishes to ignore for inspiration for some reason. Ian Flynn is definitely one of the best writers for the Sonic comics.

[@lynxfresh5214]

Thats because Sega would actually have to admit this to the adventure era and it's fans; "You couldn't live with your own mistakes, where did that bring you?, back to me!".

[@sonicsaiyan07]

As opposed to Sally specifically, I always felt Amy was just having her Sonic Boom personality bleed into the main continuity. Regardless of how that series faired, Amy was certainly portrayed as a leader type there so seeing it in the comics doesn't seem too out of left field.

[@rainpooper7088]

sonicsaiyan07 Boom Amy was also criticized for being too much like Sally, especially in the Boom Archie comics where she’s the team leader for no reason and acts like a bitchier version of Sally with literally none of that cute and mildly goofy charm and desire to help people because it’s the right thing to do that Amy’s character used to be all about. IDW does keep that part of her character intact though, so it’s fine by me.

[@Sovic91]

Oh, I can't wait to watch this. Sadly I have homework to do, but mark my words, I WILL return.

[@ZoZo-fh6tq]

Good luck soldier

[@Sovic91]

I'm baack. Excellent video as always.

[@TheRiolan]

Loved the points addressed in this vid. You pretty much nailed everything on the head. The way characters were handled and portrayed in Forces makes me wonder how Ian Flynn would handle a certain reality-bending Jackal and I cannot be anymore excited for it.

[@chocov1233]

I'm 90% sure that Sonic Team won't let anyone other than themselves touch Infinite with a ten foot pole after Forces release.

[@thekagawalife2081]

Riolan I... believe he wrote the prequel comic “Rise of Infinite”? Not much was able to be done since it was a short, but I’d like to see more of how Ian would handle Infinite.

[@DankMadness12]

​@@thekagawalife2081since Infinite isn't allowed to be used in the comics, that ain't gonna happen.

[@jinkaleb7414]

Tails be getting that Super Gohan treatment. If you know what I’m Saiyan.

[@not7170]

yOu sPeLt sAyiNg WrOnG!!111!!

[@alphadeathdust]

More speed reading means more of me hearing Nicks nice voice rambling on about a bunch of fast animals and jewelry. Keep up the great work man!

[@dragondelsur5156]

I gotta say that i love how the comics give the characters some justice after years of being misstreated, especially for Tails, Knuckles and Amy.

[@tripplejaz]

“Leaked out of her” Yikes. 😂 Whatever, fine, Nick, I’m buying all of them.

[@TimmyTheTinman]

That's what she said

[@tiredsadboi8278]

God, it's incredible how well you know this series. It's respectable, your the kid in the class who everybody asks for lore and you give them everything and more. God damn it's nice to know someone cares about all of Sonic and not just classic, cartoon, or modern Sonic, but Sonic The Hedgehog in general.

[@KArchine]

Already watched this on patron. Still came here to boost your numbers. Keep at it guy!

[@TheFinalFailSafe]

I really like how these characters were handled in the comics. In my opinion it’s how the three should be written form now on.

[@smoogieboogie1694]

My stance on the Sally/Amy issue of the comics doesn’t have anything to do with who Sonic should date. I couldn’t care less about Sonic’s love life honestly. What my main issue came down to was that for the longest time I felt Amy was basically written as a Sally clone which I felt did a disservice to her character. The things I’ve always found charming about her character are the goofier things about her like her crush on Sonic or massive temper (neither elevated to the ridiculous levels of some games though) and I felt that the comics stripped that away from her in trying to fill the hole Sally left behind and it messed up what I liked about Amy so much. Granted, on re-reading I did notice some of her old personality like her entire debut issue and certain moments like wondering where Shadow went on Angel Island or getting excited at Sonic carrying her. But I overall came for the realization that, while she was taking on a Sally role, her personality shift was to that of Sonic Boom Amy rather than maintaining what the games and older cartoons had done. And again, I’ve never liked that shift because I feel it erases the more erratic aspects of her personality. I do like how she’s written in the comic and she has a lot of great moments, but sometimes I feel her character and arcs are restricted by her position as leader of the resistance. Sally isn’t even my favorite Freedom Fighter by the way, it’s Rotor. And no one has really “replaced” him in IDW yet as an older friend of Tails who is just as much of a genius as him. Also, fun fact to bring up for this debate: I’m pretty sure some manuals for Sonic CD referred to Amy as Sally Acorn. So that’s pretty funny with this new context.

[@chocov1233]

I agree, for the most part. I don't know about the Boom part though because Amy definitely kept her temper in that incarnation, she was even a complete jerk sometimes. Also I do believe that Amy was toned down because of how much hate she has gotten for being herself over the years. She was probably given the commander role because know other popular characters could fill that role besides Tails, Blaze, Silver, Rouge, or Vector and none of them could sustain a leadership role for that long because the live somewhere completely different, are too inexperienced, or have other people they have to look after. Also I heard some people getting mad because they thought Tangle was going to be Sally (reminds me of the whole people thinking that Sticks the Badger was actually Marine the Raccoon).

[@chocov1233]

@@SuperBlueGamer9000 I like her canon/mainline personality more, especially when she acted more mature during the 1998-2009 era. I still think that Cindy Robinson is a very talented voice actress and I think she has a good Amy voice in stuff like Lego Dimensions, I just like Jennifer Douillard and Lisa Ortiz's voices/voice directors much more. I understand where you're coming from though.

[@smoogieboogie1694]

Super Blue Gamer 9000 they basically did. That’s my problem. I miss the more goofy Amy who had the crush but still did what was right.

[@YouluC]

They referred to Amy as Sally Acorn in the CD manual because it was a poor attempt at trying to promote the TV show at the time.

[@dragondelsur5156]

@@YouluC Or a case of bad name adaptation.

[@sirrealgaming6913]

All i'm saying is that tails went full fightclub and they should have leaned into it

[@GameApologist]

If Tails reunited with the group and it turned out classic Sonic was fake the whole time? Forces would be in my top 5 games of all time.

[@chocov1233]

@@GameApologist What if he was never there and the rest of them went along with it for his sake since they had more pressing matters to worry about?

[@tabifiedler6944]

Game Apologist I LOVE this idea! I wish Forces would have done something like this, but SEGA never would have allowed it :(

[@travisherndon94]

I agree with you on Knuckles being a fighter, I don't see him as this big leader of a resistance force. If you want Knuckles to lead a team have him lead the chaotix like in the previous comics. You could have it that they're this "hit them hard and hit them fast", you call us to do the suicide mission or need the extra muscle type team sort of like The Wreckers from the Transformers franchise.

[@GameApologist]

Man that would have been an awesome interpretation

[@chocov1233]

Knuckles should've took Silver and Espio's place as the face of the resistance and the main heroes inspiring the animal people. The leader should have been Amy (she's good at persuading people and she has been a team leader multiple times), Tails (he is a genius with a lot of motivation to stop the Eggman Empire), Silver (he has survived living in an apocalypse and has an unshakable drive to see a world of peace), Rouge (technically the leader of Team Dark and is extremely cunning and a great tactition who probably has military training), or Vector (is an experience leader and someone who has a strong preference that respects attention).

[@travisherndon94]

@@GameApologist Yeah and if they wanted they could add Mighty and Ray back and have them be apart of Knuckle's Chaotix team like in the comics.

[@diddlypoop]

@@chocov1233 Problem is Espio is probably more fit for a face of the resistance/leader role. The guy's a literal fuckin' ninja. Knuckles is just some hermit who guards a shiny gem on a floating island.

[@chocov1233]

@@diddlypoop Who has a presence of authority, was technically the og leader of the Chaotix, and can destroy parts of buildings and whole boulders with one punch.

[@mechajay3358]

These are the kind of writers we need on the Sonic games. They actually know how to tell are cohesive story. And honestly I like how Amy had been doing as leader, though I really wished they brought Sally in to the main series.

[@BingBangPoe]

The Sonic Forces comics were probably the only Sonic comic series I've enjoyed, ever. The original Archie comics series was a convoluted mess with various moments of questionable art. I liked your analysis on Sonic not being able to show emotions other than his "raddy attitude". Sonic is a -passive- flat protagonist, like Goku. He doesn't really change, other characters around him change because of his actions, and that is ok. Amy is probably my favorite character in this Sonic Forces comics. She is quirky, she is independent and not obsessed with Sonic. They actually gave her a personality. I honestly don't understand why readers have issues with that, when it improves her character by 200%. Edit: thanks Jamal Hartley for correcting me on the nomenclature.

[@jamalhartley5863]

I think you mean he's a flat character. Passive would indicate that Sonic only acts when threats affect him personally. He's very much an active character. Seeing as Goku kinda sort almost killed a bunch of universes with the tournament power I'd say he's pretty active too. Ichigo from Bleach is a perfect example of a passive character/protagonist.

[@BingBangPoe]

@@jamalhartley5863 yes, thank you! I meant flat protagonist, my mistake. But what I meant is that Sonic and Goku are protagonists with "flat character arcs". Unlike other types of characters, such as those with "positive character arcs", which revolves around "the lie the character believes" (like Shadow and Vegeta), the flat character arc is based on "the truth the character believes". Both Sonic and Goku are easygoing characters that essentially are the same in terms of personality and don't go through massive changes; Sonic is defined by his free spirit and love for speed, while Goku is defined by trying to always become a better fighter and meet stronger opponents. They overcome their challenges by following those beliefs, and they don't change, but characters around them do: both Shadow and Vegeta eventually become allies to Sonic and Goku, respectively, after their interactions with said characters. They go through their character arcs and change their beliefs after meeting the protagonists. Thank you for your input on Ichigo, that was a good point.

[@darkychao]

as a person who's only aware of the characters through the games I thought that Amy would have been a better choice as leader of the Resistance from the start.

[@Mikey64]

Yeah I was kinda disappointed when Shadow got **SPOILERS FOR RECENT ARC**. He’s always been egotistical but that was just pure stupidity.

[@somethingfunny2199]

It really shows how little Sega/Sonic Team get their characters now and it’s a shame because Ian’s original version of that scene was miles better than what we got

[@Iam-cz1ot]

*I ‘ M T H E C O O L E S T*

[@magnificentdumbass7700]

Spoil me

[@chocov1233]

He thought he was immune because one of his abilities is being immune to all diseases because he is the ultimate lifeform and he was created to be a biological super alien government weapon hedgehog and as a way to research a cure for the illness that Maria Robotnik had.

[@Mikey64]

Chocov 123 That stuff about Maria’s disease isn’t canon anymore (I don’t even think it ever was). Even still, Shadow was clearly being engulfed by the metal virus and he didn’t even try to start running it off like Sonic. I know he was surrounded by tons of Zombots but he can freaking fly with his shoes. He should’ve been able to see that the virus was overtaking him and should’ve begun doing what Sonic had been doing for awhile now.

[@tailsdude9069]

5:54 “He needs to be his own hero” SEGA said this for the millionth time now, NOW JUST KEEP THAT FREAKING NARRATIVE.

[@mangaprime478]

On Friday, February 21, 2020, Sonic Team uploaded a video called “The Brief History of Sonic the Hedgehog 101” on Sonic Channel, their official website. In the latter part of that video, Sonic Team stated that Amy Rose is “an independent hedgehog with a strong sense of justice.” Sonic Team confirmed that Amy’s character growth and maturity, as clearly seen in the IDW Sonic comic series, are 100% canon. Therefore, Amy is not a carbon-copy or Mary-Sue of Sally Acorn as so many Archie Sonic and SatAM die-hards want to falsely accuse Amy to be all because they’re upset that Sally Acorn isn’t in IDW Sonic as the leader or as the lead female protagonist which Amy always was in the main Sonic universe. The head of Sonic Team, Takashi Iizuka himself stated that IDW Sonic is the canon continuation of Sonic Forces and Sonic Team, unlike with Archie Sonic, supports IDW Sonic, especially since SEGA has more control and influence over the Sonic comics this time around. Also, Sally and the Freedom Fighters aren’t canon to any of the Sonic video games produced by Sonic Team and SEGA of Japan. No offense but Sally and the Freedom Fighters are irrelevant to the canon video games and IDW Sonic won’t reference anything from Archie Sonic or from SatAM as SEGA wants the new Sonic comics to stay true to the canon modern Sonic video games. Also, Sonic Spinball and Sonic Mean Bean Machine aren’t canon, they were just non-canon spin-offs and Ian Flynn himself in a Bumblekast stated that those two games don’t count as canon. SEGA of Japan don’t want the Freedom Fighters because they don’t fit with their vision of Sonic and SatAM doesn’t advertise Sonic Team’s game characters or video games.

[@ManiacX1999]

Obviously their Canon doesn't mean much when it comes to movies at least...

[@lordkooner]

The comic is Great! But I had a little problem, Why is shadow edgy? This is his 'shadow the hedgehog' game personality, his original (SA2) personality is the best and he isn't edgy there.

[@trizilitz3201]

Debut Shadow was the best Shadow. I hate it that SEGA applies the "edgy" character to Shadow, instead of the heroic, humble, loyal, and sassy Shadow

[@lordkooner]

@@trizilitz3201 Even the comic says it out loud and called shadow an "anti-hero" and I am disappointed, don't get me wrong, this comic is awesome, but them getting shadow's personality wrong bothered me a lot.

[@chocov1233]

He's not edgy per say, but he is definitely a cool dark counterpart type character.

[@chocov1233]

@@trizilitz3201 Hey, he wasn't that bad in Heroes, 06, Black Knight, or even some parts of Shadow the Hedgehog. Also besides some voice lines and that one scene with pre-mask Infinite, he wasn't to bad in Forces. Everyone is conflating Dark/Neutral Shadow from his game and Boom Shadow with game Shadow, he hasn't been the same since 2003 but that doesn't mean that he's horrible.

[@chocov1233]

@@lordkooner He is an anti-hero, he is friends with a "former" thief/criminal and a blood-thirsty killing machine robot. Not to mention he goes on spec-op missions for a government agency, where he might have to presumably kill or injure people. Also he straight up was going to let everyone die on the planet and no good deeds are going to stop that from always being something held against him.

[@alphonseurshon405]

15:29 "Unlike Sonic, I don't chuckle."

[@dragondelsur5156]

Now that line makes sense.

[@sonic5993]

The Shadow episode is going to be interesting isn't it.

[@GameApologist]

Oh yes.

[@iggyminious]

Indeed it was.

[@ScrapsandSlaps]

I’m interested on your opinion on Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood. Yeah the gameplay, music, graphics, etc aren’t great. But the story in that game is probably the cleanest attempt to join the game story and archie’s story together. With that backlash that came from that game I was surprised when SEGA said that Forces was taking inspiration from the comics. Anyways, I’d love to see a video of you discussing your opinion of Chronicles’ story.

[@quasar4780]

Same. I loved Shade as a character and I think the Nocturnus clan had a great potential, but because of Penders's lawsuits we'll prebably never see them again. Fuck Penders.

[@Wayneisboss]

You know, there's a part of me that would really like to see a new Sonic game that take the visuals in a new direction and tries to capture a sort of cell shaded approach that looks something along the lines of the comics. Not sure if anyone else had felt this way but I've felt like a part of my inability to connect with the charactrrs in recent Sonic games comes as much from the stagnant and kind of uninteresting art direction as much as the writing. I almost feel like the character designs are almost trapped inside the models they're stuck in and I'd love to see it taken in a slightly different direction

[@GameApologist]

It's a major critique and one a lot of folks are justified in vocalizing. The series needs an injection of style

[@Wayneisboss]

@@GameApologist Either way. I'm interested to see what they've got up their sleeves next. If they can nail that gameplay and style down we're good but I'm still really hoping for the day they decide to really run wild with the story and do something new and exciting for the characters! They would probably do well to take some notes from Flynn but I know that's not generally how business runs

[@GameApologist]

I feel like, as diverse as fans needs and wants may be, everyone has a morbid curiosity/genuine hope when it comes to each new release. They are always SO close to nailing things.

[@quasar4780]

So something like the first Sonic riders' cutscene ?

[@rainpooper7088]

Wayneisboss Yeah, the current models look pretty bland to be honest. Even Rise of Lyric had better character animation than Forces and Colors.

[@mediamuncher6982]

I love this new Amy and I don't think she stole Sally'a personality.

[@kevinfowler8119]

Hey man. Don’t fret on the video or how you edit it. Everything you say is awesome and makes super sense. So just roll with man. Your voice is like some master craft golden spitfire . So it works. Keep up the good work brotha!

[@TurboPikachu]

I really hope to see Whisper and Tangle become a part of future games, as well as to see Blaze return. It'd also help if the current voice cast from Colors onwards is being replaced anyways. Ultimately though, the flanderization and misunderstanding of Tails and Knuckles in the games, especially in Forces, has gotten me to a boiling point with the franchise and I don't see myself bothering with future titles if Sega/Sonic Team doesn't get their writing together soon

[@lynxfresh5214]

Same, it all started with them getting screwed out of their super forms in Heroes and it all slowly went downhill from there... Funny how Sega scrapped the Hyper forms for being "too DBZ" yet have made it so that only the male hedgehogs can go super with the chaos emeralds in the "modern" era (similar to how only saiyans can go "super") and insist on writing Shadow as a bootleg diet-Vegeta, the hypocrisy is hilarious!

[@patrickramseyart]

My first thought when making a custom character in Sonic Forces was trying to recreate one of the Freedom Fighters. It was always my dream to see Sally in a game. Like you said, they're important characters, but even as an optimist I know that won't ever (officially) happen. RIP Sally and crew. You deserve better.

[@zaktheinquisitor5769]

I still really wish they hadn't scrapped the Freedom Fighters, I'm arguably more attached to them than the cast from the games.

[@gundambassexe31]

Sonic forces was a mixed bag imo but the comics I haven't read in a couple years

[@wolfspidervers1150]

shadow: "a personality, what's that? why would you need a personality when you have Ë̶̢̛͎͈̺͚̟̳̗̹̣̝́̄̀̓͊̈̀͋͝͝͠D̶̢͕͔̫̝̺̗̟̬̳̪̟͉̙̏͐̔̊̋̈́̊̀͗̑̈́̒͘͝G̸̢̛̬̖̼̖̈̋͒̐Ḛ̸̡̖̳̫͛̂̐̅̋̾̎̇̂̆̚͜͝͝! "

[@skizzlers2756]

I love the IDW comics! The only thing I don't like about them is Shadow's portrayal and the fact that Infinite is nowhere to be found. I hate how Sega micro-manages the comics 😒

[@chocov1233]

It's a double-edged sword, even though it sucks from time to time, if Sega didn't impose any control over the comics then some writers could make this series go over the deep end like Archie did sometimes, and that isn't good for anyone's image.

[@skizzlers2756]

@@chocov1233 yeah, considering the whole Penders fiasco I can understand that they would want more control over the comics.

[@mannycampos6885]

The what was shadow og protryal in the first place

[@ThaDuDeMaN1]

I met Ian Flynn at a convention, he had no lineup and asked for no money for an autograph... i bought the first collection (issues 1-4)and immediately loved what he did with Tails.... the next day i personally tanked him for doing right by my favorite character, bought a couple more issues and have been showing sonic fans who honestly.... were like me completely unaware of its existence.... if the first time i heard of the comic was by seeing a booth with Ian Flynn himself selling the thing.... anyway i hope your video gives the comic much needed attention

[@kovidarthehedgehog4066]

Forces! Tails: Sonic,help me!!!! IDW!Tails: I’d rather help myself out.

[@DarkKnux09]

1:02 I almost thought you were gonna say "because Ian does...what Sega Don't" lol

[@ethanthepro3686]

I've known about this forever and it drives me crazy that I haven't heard anyone talk about it. In the Sonic Forces prequel comic "Looming Shadow" one page has 2 pictures of Sally Acorn, one next to Knuckles and another by herself. Those are canon so some version of Sally exists in the main canon.

[@superhedgehog6447]

Is there a link to it? Just curious

[@ethanthepro3686]

@@superhedgehog6447 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mF6UcnShhb-bgrs If you go to 1:05 in this video you'll see her. Considering this context this means that at least Knuckles and Rouge know her

[@dragondelsur5156]

It was just a homage.

[@ethanthepro3686]

Yeah, they'll probably never show her in the games or anything but it's cool to think that she is out there somewhere, like Mighty and Ray for instance

[@donovanthefrog138]

I may have a catchphrase for the start of the video. Something like "welcome to speed reading, where we turn words into *(insert word here)*

[@GameApologist]

"BIRDS" Perfect!

[@gregtom3272]

that was a very good video , how ever , there was a interesting article about sonic , which explain a lot about sonic fandom probably way more than any one think , it has a lot to say about classic era and modern era gamebabble.wordpress.com/2010/02/22/sonic-and-the-worst-fandom-ever/ this article has some sort of a bad title which is " sonic and worst fandom ever " but regardless of it , this article would give a good idea about sonic fandom

[@typoking]

So basically, Flynn took the character out of character to fix Forces...I thought there were rules against changing established canon..Strange, isn't it?

[@bluewind4329]

Thou I was very upset with the earlier position of some characters in Forces and this comic a while back but I've come to expect what's going on with it and like some of the narrative overtime. That's for addressing your thoughts while staying positive to the previous continuity of the comics and it's characters(Archie) but you have a nack for that kind of thing and I thank you.

[@unabatedbasher]

I read the IDW comics without knowing much about the games or the Archie comics, so it was very interesting to see your take on it. Im exited to see more of this!

[@orealz]

6:36 yeeeahh I'm pretty sure Rouge is the real "leader" of team dark.

[@rainpooper7088]

I agree with what you said on Knuckles, but what kind of bugs me about him that I don’t think anyone has addressed so far is that someone at IDW really seems to like drawing dumb faces on him, regardless of whether they fit the situation or not, the biggest culprit being that scene where he catches the Master Emerald. It’s such an important moment for him in this story and that stupid face just takes me right out of it. That would be like if in SA2, Shadow realized what Maria really wanted and they made him do that infamous face from the Archie comics that edge lord uses as his profile picture. That’s not even funny, it’s just really random. He’s also the only character they do this with, unlike in Mania Adventures where the odd faces are part of the style. Thing is, as you said, the writing on him is fine: He is supposed to be the guy who takes everything seriously even if it’s ridiculous, so why can’t he seem to go a single issue without making some ridiculous out of place facial expression? Is there a mandate about Knuckles having to at least look stupid once per issue? Is it some kind of inside joke I’m not getting?

[@GameApologist]

Honestly it doesnt bug me. I can see how it irks you, but i think its precious. As long as he isnt a complete moron i am fine with him.

[@rainpooper7088]

Game Apologist Yeah, the writing on him is the best it’s been in years, so I take what I can get. It’s just such an odd artistic choice to do it for just this one character where it doesn’t even match the personality. I’ve actually been thinking about writing to the staff just to find out what’s up with that.

[@The_AuraMaster]

I just realized something about Sonic Forces that makes Classic Sonic and possibly even the Rookie obsolete. They had all of Team Chaotix that can blow up robots by simply singing right off the bat, and shortly after all of Team Dark who can stop time, and Team Sonic after they rescue Sonic and Tails comes back. They didn't need Classic Sonic or Rookie when they had basically the entire cast of Sonic Heroes and more. Just add the Chaos Emeralds back and Infinite and the rest of the robots and illusions are powerless. And even if we assume Team Blast moves wouldn't work, Espio is a Ninja with actual lethal weapons, and Silver can use telekinisis to hold people in place. Eggman's side was essentially dead right at the beginning of the game.

[@SetoShadowVT]

I do remember, correct me if I'm wrong. In the Archie Comics, didn't Amy at one point even if it was very brief have a commander like role? I know she was trained by the best in the comics but I can't remember if Amy lead an Army before. I know Amy in the Archie comics became mature but eh starting to repeat myself lol

[@TheBuckweat33]

Sally Acorn is dead. That’s my headcanon. Dr. Jillian Ivo “Eggman” Robo-Robotnik’s Super Genesis wave (of the Archie Comics) actually worked and annihilated that universe once and for all. In its place, is the IDW universe, and although Sonic survives, the Freedom Fighters and Kingdom of Acorn, perhaps all of Mobius, is gone…

[@tylerwilson1024]

I want touch on my thoughts regarding the other characters, since this video and my comment on the last video you posted already says exactly how I feel about how much better Sonic, Knuckles, and Tails are portrayed within IDW comics. As for Amy, as much as I found Sally Acorn to be an amazing and badness character, I don't really agree with the thought that Amy is stealing her role so to speak, despite the obvious comparisons. I would argue that even in the Archie comics where both characters are present Amy acted similarly to how she does in the IDW comics. No, she wasn't necessarily the leader of the Freedom Fighters, but there are multiple times she'll jump in and take charge of a situation either providing backup to Sonic, Blaze, Knuckles, and even Sally herself. For example, in Sonic universe she travels with Knuckles to look for the pieces of the master emerald and was actually the more level headed out of the two, her stepping in to handle.......the emperor of the east......whatever his name was to save Monkey khan (think i spelled it right), and times she put away her own selfish desires to stay in a place or do a job that she needed to for the betterment of others. Long text aside, the traits Amy shows in the IDW comics aren't anything new and she has shown them before, just now she's in a leadership role so it's more noticeable i guess.

[@supercamborg4218]

2:50 Honestly I think it’s best when Sonic isn’t dating someone, I just don’t think his character does as well in a relationship in general. Plus you don’t have to be in a relationship to be humanized, there are a lot of people who just aren’t interested in relationships

[@deweydrop3421]

1:20 Amy's thighs look thicker than usual.... Maybe that's just me......... Don't judge me, I'm just a Sonic fan, we all think about stuff like that at some point. Don't pretend like you're not the same.

[@jdudehl6079]

Dewey Drop lmao they do look a little *thicc*

[@Gang3rs]

cant judge you at all, i always had a thing for legs and have a small thing for Amy as well so....yeah

[@deweydrop3421]

@@Gang3rs At least you're honest.

[@PokayP2]

Sega should Get Flynn to work on the game writing team since Sega has forgotten how to write tails.

[@blaa6]

It's almost like SEGA needs to put people like Ian, Tyson Hesse and Aaron Webber to head the Sonic series. Amy, Tails and Knuckles are great here. Sonic too.

[@thaneros]

Aaron Webber? Hell no. He's poisonous to the franchise.

[@dragondelsur5156]

@@thaneros Aaron Webben is not always "haha, Sonic 06", "haha, Uganda Knuckles" or "haha, BaldiMcNoseHair", no, he understands what's happening with Sonic and that the direction Forces took and other 2010s games were terrible. He reacted to Forces' story and saw many plot holes and inconsistencies within it but again, it's not like he wants the series to be all memes, he just manages the social media and he didn't expected how the franchise would be affected by this.

[@tariqdotpng546]

I’m so happy someone is bringing light to the comics. Not enough people talk about how they work with what Sonic Forces did and somehow makes it all work. They even made the Zeti bearable more recently and somehow made them essential and their inclusion make sense

[@chiakinanami3006]

Sonic IDW is the best comic I’ve ever read!🤩❤️❤️❤️

[@matti.8465]

Eh, I honestly feel like you make Forces a bigger embarassment than it actually is. The problem is that in a game you're not going to get much character stuff from those that aren't playable. The Sonic cast are side characters in the Rookie's story and they act as such. But I'm happy that this book explores the character stuff the game couldn't, I just don't think they betrayed the personalities of any character, they just weren't the focus so we didn't get a lot of them.

[@kenpoarniceguy1]

For all those that have issues with the whole Amy replacing Sally, remember that Sally was always proud whenever Amy showed massive improvement. SEGA needs to work better on characterization. That's what makes Archie more superior. Making characters more relatable.

[@johanroyce6324]

The way I saw Amy in the archie comics was her growth in to becoming the next generation of freedom fighters. She went from a fan of the freedom fighters to a member herself.

[@gingerbob14]

Another great vid Nick. Personally, i really like IDW's takes on each character. However, i do extremely agree that forces hinders the characters, especially in Amy's case. They have seemed to 'fix' Knuckles for lack of better term and Tails' issues were treated in the background so that was never too garing so hpefully, after this arc, it'll try and loose the whole resistence stuff. That's what i think it needs really. Quick side note, I love rough and tumble but they're no Bean and Bark. They do reference the hooligans in that issue but i doubt they'd bring them in due to the unfortunate whole classic - modern split by sega. I can't wait to hear your take on the shadow thing just for the fact that i think i will have an opposing view on it so i wanna hear the other side of the argument. Really enjoying speed readings, glad you're finally got it up and running. Extremely eager for the next one.

[@damotoneko1500]

Respect to someone who goes out of their way to reattach broken pieces of glass and not missing a grain. I have not read any of the comics but that doesnt matter for me to speak well about someone who cleans up someone else's mess :D

[@markv6724]

Tails in Sonic force:AAAHH SONIC HELP ME?!? tails in fleetaway:my best friend hate me. Tails in archie:fuck you sonic Tails in IDW:oh boi time to be science bro and overpower Now what jojo tails?

[@lewizardmecha7803]

Tumble: You lookin' to scrap? Rough: Then get ready to crumble! Tumble: Brace yourselves for... Rough & Tumble: (posing) ROUGH & TUMBLE! Sonic: Oh no. (holding back laughter) I wasn't prepared for this. Knuckles: Careful Sonic. They're highly coordinated. Sonic: Knuckles... You're the salt of the earth!

[@jouheikisaragi6075]

The funny thing is, Knuckles has a point.

[@corruptedteka]

OH I love this. I definitely want more of that ! Keep it up, you're doing great ^^

[@OrenRamoManuel]

Somehow I get the impression that Amy makes a great community leader rather than a Resistance leader.

[@SharkXOmega]

When it comes to Amy's outfit, I strongly think they need to adapt her Sonic Boom outfit. It's much better suited for combat. Honestly, Sonic Boom Amy I think was one of the best changes to come from that show.

[@dragondelsur5156]

You have to wait until they reboot the series for that, which i guess they won't do it anytime soon.

[@tabifiedler6944]

I LOVE Knuckles’s portrayal in Forces. Everyone else? Not so much. I love IDW and I’m so glad that they’re fixing these problems.

[@dr.shakib9961]

What I like to think about Sonic and him being strictly prohibited of crying is that he himself knows that that's pointless, nothing will be solved by doing so, he just has to keep going for the sake of the others, because if he starts crying that's just as if he suddenly stopped running.

[@M3rtyville]

I think Knuckles was the leader in Forces because American Sonic Game for the 32X made it look like Knuckles is the leader of the Chaotix by naming it Knuckles Chaotix. I found out recently that is not the actual name.

[@hirned]

I always hear people complain that sega got way too may sonic characters and I always thought that was a dumb thing to say because I'm a massive whipser, tangle, blaze and silver guy and I'm glad they got added but now that I'm starting to get into the comics I'm starting to understand what they mean I never knew about Sally and the freedom fighters etc and now that people are complaining about Amy stealing Sally's role it's starting to make sense to me and it's not like they can say that the Archie universe never happened because it got alot of fans backing it but I personally believe from here on out they should focus on one story and time line so they don't confuse everyone because honestly I'm just going to pretend the Archie thing never happened and only read idw

[@Freashplayer]

I should really get into these comics, they sound great.

[@Ryderboycolor9]

Wait wait Tails is Written well thats amazing

[@MisInformationLord]

They could easily erase forces from the time line and make the IDW an actual game with sonic as the main of course shadow and silver as selectable or unlockable characters and the rest can have their own side mission but it would be cool if it was open world kinda like unleashed and less classic sonic because in forces he sucks

[@dawritersroom01]

As much as I love the IDW series, especially their Battle for Angel Island story arc with Neo Metal Sonic, I do kind of wish they would have addressed Infinite, who was supposedly the main villain. Sonic references fighting Metal Sonic's 'phantom' when he meets Neo, and he mentions being stuck in a cell for 6 months, but the rest of the story seems to act like Infinite was never involved with any of it, despite the fact that Infinite was the reason for both of those things. There could be the potential for an interesting story to tell with Infinite after Forces, or at least do some 'Tangle & Whisper'-styled side story with Team Dark and Infinite, since they seem to have a very established connection.

[@dragondelsur5156]

I think that after how terrible Infinite turned out, Sega will just bury him and pretend he never existed.

[@jennifernelson7413]

I love this series and I want to say that you are awesome!

[@eilennazo]

They need to make games based off of the comics. That would be awesome.

[@togathin7009]

15:21 It’s just like the song said. “UNLIKE SONIC I DON’T CHUCKLE!”

[@numberjacksoctonauts7138]

I wish they allowed Sonic to be more expressive. I mean, come on. He was tortured for six months on the death egg while everyone else thought he was dead! He should have cried at that or be in a lot of pain at the very least.

[@geniuskhan2520]

The way I see it, Sally is gone but not forgotten, and Amy is the next best bet at filling in the role as leader in a way that didn't even remind me of Sally

[@Sjono]

You see everyone but Sonic Team doing justice to Tails’ character. It’s clear they done just care

[@1colonelsanders]

I don't even really consider myself a fan of sonic but here I am, somehow absorbed by these videos

[@dpolaristar4634]

tbh Amy being a leader seemed like a natural evolution of her development in the games, she was the leader of Team Rose and she's always had a material/inspirational aspect to her character.

[@chocov1233]

Although the team aren't perfect and I've heard many slanderous accusations and legitimate facts brought up about them, the writing and artists at IDW (specifically the Sonic stuff, the TMNT and Transformers comics are also really good) have done a fantastic job with the comics so far and I believe that it would be a good idea for Sonic Team to bring some of them on for artwork and writing on the next Sonic game. They could definitely make a great story for the game and I would really like to see more than one Sonic game written by the Happy Tree Friends writers. If it would be too much work then they shouln't do it because it would take resources and attention away from what's truly important, the gameplay.

[@dragondelsur5156]

Can i say a fun fact? One of the main writers for the games actually worked in Happy Tree Friends.

[@chocov1233]

@@dragondelsur5156 I already knew that (if you're talking about the game writers from 2010 - 2019), but thinks for telling, I like fun facts too. :^)

[@Sonickeyblade00]

Ooooh. Shadow in the IDW comics is a mixed bag? I can't wait for that video.

[@Adir-Yosef]

knuckles then: i WILL protect my island and the master emerald. knuckles now: DID THIS MORON SPIT ON MY ISLAND!?

[@GFCOLCQuote]

I hope they let Sonic act more... well human. A Sat AM cartoon superhero is nice and all- Hell, the last time he was even one of those he was pretty emotional. Weakness doesnt make someone weak, because a man without fear cannot show courage. Having a character be a super hero means nothing if they can't lose and they know it. They arent even a hero anymore, they're just a force. A force that progresses the plot. They arent relatable, and because of that rooting for them becomes more difficult. And I want to root for my blurry blue bud.