RizomUV - UV Mapping Doesn't Have to Suck!

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[@ForcePF]

I don't hate UV unwrapping as much as I hate subscription software. I'm happy to buy software that I use, but I hate the idea of renting it.

[@ghostradiodelete]

agreed. Reminds me of Adobe. Screw subscription software. I'll wait til someone makes a free version, until then, even $15 a month is not for me.

[@DavidSalamanca]

THIS.

[@seanarooni]

its $150. you get a year of updates but you can continue to use it after that.

[@BitFireStudio]

FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE SAID IT. I HATE the idea of software as a service. I hate software subscriptions. I think we need to stop letting companies get away with basically only giving us permission to use their software.

[@cynth4941]

​@@kvisualsartI mean, it's not cheap, but I don't think it's an unreasonable amount, it's on par with other similar commercial 3D software. Like I've seen some software asking for $2000 for perpetual, that's more what unreasonable looks like imo. Companies don't price stuff for "anyone", they price it for freelancers earning money with the software commissions You can always just pirate it too, like I'm doing right now haha

[@Psrj-ad]

My teacher at school was raving abou rizom when we were going through UV unwrapping. And i can definetly say that the algorithms used in Rizom do feel magical at times compared to blenders unwrapping and even more so compared to Maya's

[@jensenraylight8011]

lol, just use UVLayout, UV Unwrap is a solved problem, can't understand why people still fighting about UV Unwrapping being Suck, can't relate at all the one problem that i never had any problem with even back then in dinosaur year 2015, even after 10 years people still suck at this

[@RizomUV]

Nice video dude! although at 4:56, you'll notice that some of your islands don't have a checkerboard, that's because they're not actually unwrapped. You didn't make any cuts either by hand, or by using the automatic seam tool. So essentially those islands are 3D shapes being packed. At least that's what it looks like.

[@disruptive_innovator]

Ah good, there is a perpetual license of 149.90 euros or the rent to own the perpetual license option. I didn't see that before. I can't stand subscription models for tools. Glad they have this.

[@RizomUV]

We can't stand subscription only models either, if you buy it, you own it.

[@justanothernobody7142]

35 or 15 Euros a month for UV unwrapping , nope!

[@SunixDev]

same here ...

[@igorthelight]

150 Euros and it's yours forever! ;-)

[@davidandrews2822]

Do you know how much bacon🐷 & eggs 🐔 you can buy with 35 Euros? 🥚🥓

[@GerardoValerio]

I actually didn’t know how to UV in blender. This was an unexpected learning experience that I appreciate immensely. I use 3D coat to UV but now I see this and I need it!

[@TheNjordy]

Blender is ok-ish for UV work. There are a few addons (paid, but not too expensive) what do an excellent work helping with uvs

[@fuarrkk]

I have had RizomUV for years and I had to end up purchasing the old uvLayout to do things faster, with less errors.

[@TheSoulmarine]

I'm using it for years with c4d bridge, great tool

[@Cheshie]

Honestly just buying the indie version outright for 150 is a totally fair price if it's something you spend a lot of time doing.

[@Ray3D]

This is definitely one of those areas that AI should be used for in Art, but isn't cuz corpos suck.

[@MrAw3sum]

this and retopologizing. I literally don't want to try 3d because I tried making a silly sculpt once and was happy, and then saw what you had to do to make a useable poseable 3d model and gave up.

[@poetryflynn3712]

AI is for investors mostly. Investors don't understand UV unwrapping.

[@timothy_synth]

And you would be a better Corpo?

[@Ray3D]

@@MrAw3sum Retopo is also massive pain that solely exists as a result of tech limitations.

[@joa1401]

@@2.Plus.2.Equals.5what they’re saying is they believe corporations aren’t focusing ai development on tools which are actually useful in real productions, like retopology. instead, the corporations are concentrating on making attention-grabbing apps that wow laypeople and shareholders with novelty, without actually giving much consideration to the problems they’re supposed to solve or how they’d fit into a real workflow. stuff that looks whiz bang in ads and is fun to play around with on your phone. stuff that will make you look clever when you show it to your boss. but not actual, boring, concretely practical everyday stuff with clear use cases. and honestly, i’m inclined to agree with this person. proponents of the current ai-art craze have alternately claimed ‘artificial intelligence’ can augment the skills of artists, or replace them entirely. meanwhile they’ve shown a surprising lack of curiosity about the actual needs of artists, the skills they must learn, the problems they regularly encounter, or the processes and workflows they’ve developed over decades (and centuries) to address these problems. if they want to help artists make art better, they could ask them what would be helpful. in most cases the answer probably won’t be a ‘make art now’ button. one that you have to coax into cooperating via text prompts because of how random its output is. and if their goal, instead, is to make artists obsolete, then they’re going to need to learn what actually goes into making art. ‘i’m going to replace you and leave you unemployed, as soon as i can be bothered to figure out what exactly it is you do at your job’ is kind of a weird way to threaten someone.

[@GabrielPaivaHarwat]

You forgot to mention that RizomUV Real Space version works with real life size textellation, any game developer would give an arm to be able to have all the game textures in world space with UVs (Without projecting). That would make all your wood materials fit perfectly all your different wood meshes with no UV scaling, That is very unique.

[@Potatinized]

sounds like this method wont work with UDIM workflow, will it? Also if I understand you properly, this feature isn't unique. Maya and 3ds max definitely had this since forever. So I'm sure other softwares have it too.

[@Jeizar]

I like Uvs unwrapping, I find the one you showed made by one clic on your tool absolutely unsufficient as it, but still very impressive as a starting point. A great tool i used is Headus Uv Layout. very old and no longer updated, but very powerfull and single payment permanent license

[@MR3DDev]

No way!!! This is fantastic 😮

[@fadepanther6224]

No love of being tied to pay for yet another subscription software. Less so when the task it does is just something I don't like doing, not something it can do but I can't. It looks like a WAY faster way to UV Unwrap a model, but it also is another program to learn, and you get dinged for every month you don't use it. That and, with the things with adobee, I'm staying away from any company who is doing licenses just to use their program. Thank you a ton for showing off not only how the program works, how good it is, but also the downside you knew others would not like. That does take a level of "honor" that I don't get to see that much these days.

[@RizomUV]

Here we go again... It's not subscription software for Indies. It's either, perpetual = 149.9 euros to buy outright, with a years worth of updates, and you can use it until the end of time, you own it. Or, Rent-to-own = 14,90 euros a month, for 10 months, at which time it converts into a perpetual license. Aka, you own it, forever.

[@fadepanther6224]

​@@RizomUV While that is fair to note, (The KZbin Video said as much), My worry stems from how easily companies, indie or not, have shown to change their license agreements. Sorry if I come off as saying it is an subscription for everyone. That wasn't the intent but that is what it sounded like. My apologies for that. But what keeps the company behind the License from changing the agreement of what can be used under that License? (Adobe, Unity, WotC have all burned my trust in legal things as they all have tried to do something very nasty. Adobe actually would have gotten away with it if they didn't push people to agree to the terms of service.) So, while perpetual license means I own the license forever, it doesn't sound like I own the program. I'm no lawyer but that isn't a reason for me to "just trust me bro" for anything. More so for that chunk of change. And only a year's upgrade time. Which does hint that for further upgrades I'd need to pay more. I get your trying to sell the product, but I have been burned, and scammed, one too many times to just nod and agree. (MIND YOU! I'm not saying this is a scam at all. Far from it as it looks like a fantastic program)

[@RizomUV]

​@@fadepanther6224 I get the concern, especially with everything that's been going on at the moment with other companies, and what they're doing. But, with that said, we are not them. In fact, I was looking on in amazement at a certain company (not naming names), thinking "Why on earth would they do this? did they think 'how can we kill our business overnight?'". So, let me lay out where we are, in regards to all the stuff you've seen over the last few months... 1. If you buy our software as an Indie user, you own it, and you own it forever. You get updates for 12 months, after which, you can either... • use the last version of RizomUV available before your license expired, until the end of time. • Or, you can choose to extend your license at any time, to get access to updated versions of RizomUV. • Simply put, we are not believers in the philosophy of "You'll own nothing, and be happy" 2. Our software doesn't spy on you. No telemetry is sent by our software anywhere, there is no network traffic from RizomUV at all. Hell! Our software doesn't even contain the code necessary to do that. We have no interest in this whatsoever. 3. Our terms of use aren't mental. Using our software, does not grant us a license to use or publicly display your work. As stated above, we don't even have access to your work, and quite frankly we don't want it. Maybe I should make a PSA Video on our KZbin channel about this 🤔 It might come across as "shots fired", but at least everyone will know where they stand with us, and for the lolz obviously 😅😅

[@ArksideGames]

The price is not a big deal at all, the amount of time and headache it saves is INSANE.

[@JermaineMorgan]

That cube made uv mapping seem so easy…

[@wailfulcrab]

Because it usually is on hard surface objects, the seams just go on hard edges. The problem arises when the object has curved shapes and its absolute nightmare on organic sculpts.

[@ahettinger525]

You did not sacrifice the default cube!? You have angered the blender gods! EDIT: Whew, That was a close call

[@cintron3d]

Rent to own is a nice concept here.

[@igorthelight]

150 Euros and it's yours forever! ;-)

[@victims5820]

Thank you very much for the video, I'm finding out so many interesting softwares since I discovered it.

[@SianaGearz]

4:30 "Boom. About as good as i could ever create myself" Yeah no that's not at all an unwrap that i would have gone for, it's clearly too busy and too islandy, and i don't even care that much about texture distortion, does anyone care? You just have to hit the ballpark, your texture painting tools can deal with the disparity in texel density, and a little bit of sharpness loss on valleys won't be noticeable either, or if there is, well if you're targeting PC, console, you can afford a tiny bit of anisotropic sampling, not too much, just a little. Islandy unwraps aren't great for rendering pipeline either, since the vertex is split and cannot be reused. 95% of technical game art and why we endlessly fiddle with UVs and seams and topology flow and whatnot is not about goodness, it's about INTENT. This thing has little to no intent.

[@erionmema1]

Im on the camp of "UV Unwarping is ZEN" kind of people, Retopology too. it feels relaxing and I'd like to think I can do an amazing job so Ill keep doing it manually for characters.

[@thomashovgaard3134]

Been doing 3d since 3d studio dos. Its ridiculous that you can send people to the moon but has yet to automate UV mapping

[@igorthelight]

AI will help with that ;-)

[@marsmotion]

i went for coat mostly because i got a whole sculpting uv painting package aloing with the invest. rizome looks cool, glad it works on linux, sure its amazing.

[@josephbrandenburg4373]

I like 3D Coat! I wonder how it compares to Rizom. I definitely think it has good UV tools.

[@HiddenAsbestos]

It's a shame Disney PTEX didn't really take off. I know it is used in high-end production, but otherwise it kind of seemed to fizzle out?

[@josephbrandenburg4373]

3D Coat can do ptex... But I have never used it haha UDIMs don't really have any flaws that I need ptex to solve.

[@WealthyHomeless]

I don't hate it as much as i hate retopology.

[@diggerfdf]

Yo Mike! Just for the curiosity. I don't know the names in English. But let's say that you need clothes. Nowadays we have basically 3 parts process. Dudes making the fabric, dudes piling up the fabric on a huge table, fit the patterns to make the cut to send to dudes and ladies that will sow all things together. OK. The second part is exactly like UV Mapping. My brother was complaining, getting used to the process and I laughed a lot, because is Exactly the same thing.

[@Le5sterleCheMiDevi]

They're called "Flatt Patterns", and that's exactly the same technique, but done in reverse.

[@Torbulous]

I didn't like UV unwrapping, but after taking on a "Ark System Works" approach to my models, I went from hating UV unwrapping to tolerating it. So it's not like I like it but I guess I like seeing the end result of it.

[@sanketvaria9734]

I just use UV packmaster 3, Textools and texeldensity addon. boom, done. enough for me. tbh, I kind of enjoy the process. It's like a video game. If I can optimize UV enough then I can get more quality for texturing for less resolution.

[@tokotokotoko3]

From my testing: this setup creates much better results than Rizom. Even the packing in the video above is visibly bad. It's weird that people pay for this.

[@Elwaves2925]

The only thing less zen to me than UV mapping are nodes. I've heard of this software a lot but assumed it was just like all the others. Cheers for highlighting it Mike.

[@HE360]

I'm glad that there are game engines like Godot that don't require UV maps. I use Microsoft 3D builder to build and texture my 3D objects and just load them in. In Godot, they come out the way I made them and I haven't had to worry about UV maps for a SUPER LONG time!

[@spectralcanvasimages]

While I'm not thrilled about how the license is handled, I'll definitely take RizomUV's licensing options over how most software is purely subscription based! I think the perpetual license up to a certain income point is fair, not the greatest but fair.

[@RizomUV]

You have the option of Rent-to-own too. It's either, perpetual = 149.9 euros to buy outright, with a years worth of updates, and you can use it until the end of time, you own it. Or, Rent-to-own = 14,90 euros a month, for 10 months, at which time it converts into a perpetual license. Aka, you own it, forever

[@spectralcanvasimages]

​@@RizomUV True, that's what I'm gathering from what your website says. Like I said, I'm not thrilled by the 100,000 Euro income limit but it's better than what most companies offer. That doesn't allow allot of wiggle room for a relatively successful indie game. What happens to someone's license if they meet or pass that threshold after fully paying for the perpetual license?

[@RizomUV]

@@spectralcanvasimages - Good question! I'll find out and report back!

[@spectralcanvasimages]

@@RizomUV Sweet! I'd appreciate that!

[@jefflhama]

People here don't read? The subscription is not a subscription for indie version, it is a monthly payment for 12 months and it's your1s or you pay one time and it's your's.

[@shark3D]

I'm one of those folks that considers it "zen" but even so if I'm on a job, and I have to do a bunch of objects quickly, they're getting as close to automatic as I can do it, there's a little step I sometimes do after where I"ll scale the autounwrap up a bit, and try to re-pack with the slightly larger mapping to get better texel efficiency but again it's all about time and turn around in my job (previsualization)

[@lpnp9477]

The trifecta of tedious: uvs, retopo and skinning. A quadfecta if you hate rigging too, but I don't mind it personally.

[@patnor7354]

This does look awesome

[@davidandrews2822]

Yes, awesome, but bacon 🐷& eggs 🥚🥚on my plate 🍽look a heck of a lot MORE awesome !

[@JC-jz6rx]

This just reminded me on one of the reasons why indies do 2D. I’m a coder with no patience. UV mapping seems like living hell

[@JaXuun]

Why rizom uv is powerful, cinema 4d unwrapping has the nicest and easiest workflow

[@pedroguidatv]

Have you ever tried Ultimate Unwrap 3D?

[@AleksandarPopovic]

I don't have lowe also and I use some addon to help me, but some people lowe and make the purest science...nice video I love that kind of videos like I'm trying this...

[@dougwarner59]

I hate UV Unwrapping so this would be something I would be interested in. I also hate retopology, but QuadRemesher does such a good job that I just use it.

[@NeZversSounds]

KZbin Channel aVersionOfReality is working on remeshing and UV unwrapping with Blender's GeoNodes.

[@jesusmgw]

Best Blender UV unwrapping tutorial on the internet. Very on point.

[@LordCritish]

Hmm another customer-milking subscription, no thanks! Why can’t companies offer their software like Topaz? Purchase newest version with one year update support, after that offer paid upgrade. But nah, they do the greedy “let’s hope customers forget they have subscribed and pay forever“ scam.

[@atoaster2070]

There is a perpetual license option. It does seem pretty expensive though.

[@josephbrandenburg4373]

They only leech on the "pro" tier, which is scummy, but not as scummy as it could be

[@justanothernobody7142]

@@atoaster2070 Perpetual licenses are just as much a con these days, it's effectively just a cheaper option for a years sub only you get to keep it instead of renting. In the past perpetual licenses usually meant you bought the software and got updates until version X or X amount of years worth. Now it's a year and all updates stop, often even bug fixes.

[@RizomUV]

Nope. It's not subscription software for Indies. It's either, perpetual = 149.9 euros to buy outright, with a years worth of updates, and you can use it until the end of time, you own it. Or, Rent-to-own = 14,90 euros a month, for 10 months, at which time it converts into a perpetual license. Aka, you own it, forever

[@ChillieGaming]

​@@RizomUV😢I feel sad when people trash talk about you

[@robthegnat9697]

Does it import back into blender smoothly?

[@davidandrews2822]

We don't know, but these bacon 🐷🥓🥓& eggs 🥚🥚🥚🥚are importing straight into me and my wife's mouth real smoothly this morning.

[@thesteammachine1282]

The only software that comes to my mind for its ease of use for UVs is Headus UVlayout . I believe it was one of the first ones out there that were known as '' pelting '' or something like that ? Basically is cloth simulation to cut and stretch uvs. Its still probably the fastest thing . As much as I like the idea of auto uvs, no software knows which part of a object needs to be big and how to cut it so that you can end with a bigger piece instead of 3 or more pieces . Manually is still the way to go. The only way for auto uvs to take first place is , if we all started using high res textures without caring of how much space they take on a asset . Now, a AI that can detect shapes and actually makes the correct cuts is something to worry about .Fingers crossed no one makes it XD.

[@khena6784]

why would an Ai unwraping be a bad thing?

[@thesteammachine1282]

@@khena6784 I dont know if you have noticed, but people (very slowly) are starting to loose their jobs thanks to such things. And many others are threatened by it . I loud like to blame it on ''Some doors you just don't open'' but in the end of the day, is corporate greed . Once the new toys are completed, the questions are going to change . Even here on YT. Many AI accounts that come and leave random comments and learn from it .

[@MrERJ1992]

@@khena6784 I mean, I can sorta see how an A.I. unwrapping software can be relied on, if not HEAVILY so, by a lot of people. There are also people who just that lazy when it comes to UV unwrapping.

[@SianaGearz]

@@khena6784 Because technical art is to a small extent about goodness and objective factors, and to a large extent about INTENT. Intent is inherently human, not something a machine may possess. You train a machine learning system, you give it a loss function, and it will create a net, effectively a function, that approximates the minimum of the loss function, so effectively a maximum of a quasi inverse "objective" quality metric. But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter nearly as much as what you want to actually DO with the model later. When someone says, model should be like this, you need to do this, you need to do quads, you need to do flow, you need to set seams thusly, these rules are made to be broken. By intent. They aren't as much rules as general guidelines unless your intent says you need to do it otherwise. You can't write a function that accurately guesses what you will want to do in the future, that's the problem. The time expense is when you at first don't know what your intent is and need to go back and inject intent back into your work. Otherwise if we're speaking UV unwrapping yo let LSCM rip throw a random seam along a loop and it's done, 12 seconds flat, like it's not like we don't have UV automation even in basic software. We have a lot of other automations as well, we have quad flow automation too, we have any kind of automation you can think of... it's just that lacking intent, they are always very limited in usefulness.

[@TheBest-sd2qf]

I tried UV unwrap in blender, and it was just totally impossible with anything else than a plane lol, this might be the answer!

[@zurrutikGames]

why didnt they make a plugin instead of a standalone app?

[@SianaGearz]

1. A plugin is for one software. Unless it's a plugin just calling a standalone app. You use Blender, someone else uses Softimage|XSI, to be a little overdramatic. How many plugins do you think are viable? 2. If it was a Blender plugin, it would have to be GPL licensed, since every plugin must import Blender, and would thus be yours to keep; even yours to share, if you dare. They can't make you pay monthly. They can't wring you dry to the very limit of your existence.

[@coloneljcd6041]

I love UV-ing its like little puzzles

[@phizc]

2:55 bad die texture. The opposite faces should add up to 7. Here it's 1+5, 2+3, and 4+6. Smh.

[@kickskii]

They redid the ui recently to make it more simpler I think it's a good update but I've heard long term users not like it so much

[@lex_darlog_fun]

Welcome to the world of professional modeling, where Rizom is an industry standard, and has been for a good decade. Before it, there was Headus UVLayout. But teaching others to just use auto-unwrap is actually a bad advice. Most of the time, you *WANT* UVs to be distorted, but to be distorted in a very specific way. E.g., the trunk should be unwrapped as close to a perfect rectangle as possible, respecting TOPOLOGY, not a relative polygon size. You'll know why as soon as you'll get familiar with in-engine texture filtering and compression. Thankfully, Rizom allows you to do MUCH more than just a single-click unwrap.

[@scottcastle9119]

Hate UV wrapping, this is my kind of software

[@ArksideGames]

FUCKIGN FINALLY!!! Why and how was this not a thing till now? Artists like myself you absolutely pay for this to save time doing stupid works.

[@alekjwrgnwekfgn]

Bro, if people here (your audience) don't know what UV mapping is.... they are in the wrong place, your not teaching anyone in this video what UV mapping is. Don't pander to an audience that ain't there- or pander to your actual audience and give us a timestamp to skip the filler/fluff.

[@OnyDeus]

I'm really confused about the hate over the pricing model (at least if you stay indie). Once it's perpetual and if your happy with the version, you don't need to pay anything else. Would people rather have only the $150 only option?

[@RizomUV]

Thank you! I really appreciate that. The comments seem to be full of people that are utterly confused about our pricing. The subscription model only applies to companies that earn over €100,000 euros a year. For indies you buy it outright and own it forever.

[@TheSliderW]

I enjoyed uv unwrapping a decade ago until models became complex enough to get me into material painting instead.

[@TorQueMoD]

I can't wait until games support P-Tex. I also hate UVs.

[@DarrylCross]

Thank you for reminding me of P-tex. I was trying to think of that alternative to UVs but was coming up blank. Yes, it would be nice if you could just use that for painting models for games. Or at the very least, if some software could translate from P-tex to UVs (and vice-versa) so you could at least use it in the workflow.

[@Ortagonation]

The problem with UV for me is not how to unwarp it. It is how to make the texture seamless...

[@OriginRow]

Like this one but it's pricing suc** Can we have 3D Coat overview

[@dougwarner59]

If you think that pricing suck, 3D Coat cost about 400 dollars.

[@RizomUV]

Really? It's not subscription software for Indies. It's either, perpetual = 149.9 euros to buy outright, with a years worth of updates, and you can use it until the end of time, you own it. Or, Rent-to-own = 14,90 euros a month, for 10 months, at which time it converts into a perpetual license. Aka, you own it, forever

[@dougwarner59]

@@RizomUV I assume he/she knows that if he/she watched the video. Personally, I think the price is fair for doing something that is difficult and tedious that I hate doing.

[@RizomUV]

@@dougwarner59 - Thank you, we think the indie pricing is fair for something you actually own.

[@RappinAcoustic]

Automatic UVing is only good for props. If you do the groundwork and do proper UV's you can save a ton of headaches down the pipeline.

[@TechButler]

Just do yourself a favor and get 3D Coat. Cheaper long-term, it's yours and you can do a lot more with it.

[@muhammadjamal347]

take a pair of scissors and go NEEEOOWNN, NEEEOOWNN😂 I LOVE U MAN

[@nowherebrain]

I like that you coverd this, but I have been unwrapping in blender for so long I just have a knack for it at this point..but I am always looking for new and fun stuff though...this just isn't it. LIKED.

[@gamefromscratch]

Yeah like I said, some people get it and some don't. You get it... I despise it and love this tool as a result. :)

[@raymk]

It's subscription based, but at least you can save time doing the UV wrapping yourself.

[@RizomUV]

It's not subscription software for Indies. It's either, perpetual = 149.9 euros to buy outright, with a years worth of updates, and you can use it until the end of time, you own it. Or, Rent-to-own = 14,90 euros a month, for 10 months, at which time it converts into a perpetual license. Aka, you own it, forever

[@Chareidos]

Could it be that this "Dice"-Texture is wrong!? The opposite sites must sum up to 7 but on this image they do not match up that way! XD Sorry for me being that guy, but my brain screams at this sight! ;)

[@DarrylCross]

Yeah. I suppose a person could still work with the texture and just shuffle each individual face into the right spot on the UV grid, but that seems more of a pain than just getting the texture right in the first place.

[@Potatinized]

simpler models that can be done within 2 weeks probably worth the price. Otherwise you'd be using it only twice for that price. but then again, those simpler models aren't that hard to unwrap. Maya's UV tools are good enough to deal with it within an hour or so. Seems like they're targeting junior modelers.

[@MadsterV]

I should get this before Adobe buys the company, makes it perpetual subscription and raises the price while bundling with stuff I don't want or need

[@chiragdhiman7231]

1:49 yup !!

[@YourFavoriteEnemy]

Tedious for sure, sadly a rent for a UV tool it's not worth it. I rather face my inner demons and do it myself.

[@RizomUV]

It's not subscription software for Indies. It's either, perpetual = 149.9 euros to buy outright, with a years worth of updates, and you can use it until the end of time, you own it. Or, Rent-to-own = 14,90 euros a month, for 10 months, at which time it converts into a perpetual license. Aka, you own it, forever

[@Clawthorne]

It's not "14,90 euro a month". It's "Until their shareholders decide they want line go up more". I thought we all decided after the "Adobe Incident" that subscription software was a no-no because they will *ALWAYS* screw you over in the end. It doesn't matter how great the software is if you're going to have to relearn Blender UV mapping again in a few years because Rizom got bought out or changed CEO. 😐

[@RizomUV]

1. Wrong. It's not subscription software for Indies. It's either, perpetual = 149.9 euros to buy outright, with a years worth of updates, and you can use it until the end of time, you own it. Or, Rent-to-own = 14,90 euros a month, for 10 months, at which time it converts into a perpetual license. Aka, you own it, forever. 2. Shareholders? 😅 We're a private company. we're not on the stock market. Try going to our websites store page, and actually reading it maybe? 🤷‍♂

[@Clawthorne]

@@RizomUV Cool, then maybe take some of that sass and invest it in your website. You got a news section. Use it. Clarify that you're different from Adobe, and how you're not going to become Adobe, nor let yourself get bought out by Adobe (or some other equally greedy company). Put your money where your mouth is. Unless of course what you said here is meaningless sass by some PR employee fishing for upvotes, and not in any way a promise or commitment to not becoming the next Substance Painter. 😉 Because we've had that already. And everyone including me is tired of it. *Words on social media mean absolute squat, unless it's backed by clear and official commitment.*

[@RizomUV]

None of this relates to your initial comment, which was totally incorrect. All I did was give you the information you were obviously missing. Information that has been on our website for years 🤷‍♂

[@StriderWolf]

subscription based? well nevermind then. its always too good to be true.

[@RizomUV]

It's not subscription software for Indies. It's either, perpetual = 149.9 euros to buy outright, with a years worth of updates, and you can use it until the end of time, you own it. Or, Rent-to-own = 14,90 euros a month, for 10 months, at which time it converts into a perpetual license. Aka, you own it, forever

[@bonnymich]

nice a new useful program to crack :-)

[@magnusrexus]

Headus UV is the same as Rizom

[@erazor825]

i was ready to buy the program for 150-200 euros but then the subscription nation attacked. unwrapping can be a pain some time with complex objects but i will happy spend the extra hours to unwrap manually that pay for a subscription

[@MrERJ1992]

You and me both.

[@RizomUV]

It's not subscription for Indies. It's either, perpetual = 149.9 euros to buy outright, with a years worth of updates, and you can use it until the end of time, you own it. Or, Rent-to-own = 14,90 euros a month, for 10 months, at which time it converts into a perpetual license. Aka, you own it, forever

[@lehisluguer9300]

this is a cool tool.. but i think its not really needed tbh.. i preffer to keep things simple and blender UV's are already great, and has all the tools I need..

[@szamber3d]

This auto unwrap from RizomUV isn't magic :D It could be far better so I dont know. Im doing my UVs in Blender with UVPackmaster, UV Squares and Texel Density Checker

[@trueh]

I find UV Unwrapping a relaxing job compared to skinning. I hate skinning.

[@Omnivoid22]

Another subscription based software. F no. Im good

[@RizomUV]

🙄Nope It's not subscription for Indies. It's either, perpetual = 149.9 euros to buy outright, with a years worth of updates, and you can use it until the end of time, you own it. Or, Rent-to-own = 14,90 euros a month, for 10 months, at which time it converts into a perpetual license. Aka, you own it, forever

[@Omnivoid22]

@@RizomUV oh wow. Now you have my attention

[@eymardfreire9223]

Retopology, UV Mapping, Weight painting....

[@Stefan-br2cf]

Pls make timestamps for ppl that know whats uvs are and Just want to watch the review 😘

[@nathanmiguel76]

1:50 lmao 😂😂😂

[@fablewalls]

"Rent to own" isn't a bad model. Personally, I have no problem with a developer crafting a tool and I pay for it - I wouldn't expect to walk into an Art shop and walk out with free (open source) artist tools unless I was happy with a prison sentence. I know some people despise the idea of paying for software but someone has to give up their time and skills to create a tool I might want to use.

[@josephbrandenburg4373]

What people despise isn't the pay but the license. I don't think software licenses are a necessary evil to allow devs to get paid... I think they're a necessary evil because they're established and because the big tech companies have bought a lot of laws to make sure it always will be. But anyways the reason arguments happen is because both sides are right. You should pay for the software if you can and you should have software freedom with any software you have.

[@fablewalls]

@@josephbrandenburg4373 I agree on being paid for your efforts but you'll know as well as I do that there are many who feel that software should be free.

[@RizomUV]

@@josephbrandenburg4373 - You seem to be confused? You own the software. It's not subscription for Indies. It's either, perpetual = 149.9 euros to buy outright, with a years worth of updates, and you can use it until the end of time, you own it. Or, Rent-to-own = 14,90 euros a month, for 10 months, at which time it converts into a perpetual license. Aka, you own it, forever

[@kebrus]

For everyone that is bound say AI should do UVs I have a bone to pick. You clearly don't understand how UVs work and what do they imply in realtime rendering, PTex solved UVs years ago, it simply eliminates UVs completely and yet, you don't see PTex being even mentioned for games like ever, there are good reasons for it, and those same reasons also how you should build your mesh UVs, using automatic solutions like this or blender or Maya or any other software might be okay for quick prototyping or for very small projects where quality and performance are not really relevant. Adding AI to this problem won't solve much because the problem is about choice, both artistically and technically, unless we somehow figure out how to tell the AI the context of what we want then it will never give a result that you can accept without needing to do changes.

[@TheAncientLich]

too expensive

[@Orionhart]

0% chance I pay for a subscription software sorry! Too much to track already each month to add things like that.

[@RizomUV]

And another one... It's not subscription for Indies. It's either, perpetual = 149.9 euros to buy outright, with a years worth of updates, and you can use it until the end of time, you own it. Or, Rent-to-own = 14,90 euros a month, for 10 months, at which time it converts into a perpetual license. Aka, you own it, forever

[@Orionhart]

@@RizomUV okay, good to know, thanks 😊

[@RizomUV]

@@Orionhart - No probs 🙂

[@MrScottyToo]

First uv

[@NorthstriderGaming]

Paid product? Nope. I'm not subscribing to software as indie.

[@RizomUV]

What? as an indie you don't. It's not subscription for Indies. It's either, perpetual = 149.9 euros to buy outright, with a years worth of updates, and you can use it until the end of time, you own it. Or, Rent-to-own = 14,90 euros a month, for 10 months, at which time it converts into a perpetual license. Aka, you own it, forever

[@Matthew_Fog]

"something something something subscription based-" good bye

[@RizomUV]

"something something you're totally wrong" 😅 It's not subscription for Indies. It's either, perpetual = 149.9 euros to buy outright, with a years worth of updates, and you can use it until the end of time, you own it. Or, Rent-to-own = 14,90 euros a month, for 10 months, at which time it converts into a perpetual license. Aka, you own it, forever

[@Matthew_Fog]

@@RizomUV Oh ok! Thanks for the info! Sorry for sounding rude

[@RizomUV]

@@Matthew_Fog - No problem dude! Just glad I could give you the right info.

[@coinopanimator]

I dont mind rent to own. Thats a good option.

[@davidandrews2822]

I don't mind bacon🥓 🐷🥓& eggs 🥚🥚🥚🥚on me and my wife's plate... that's a much better option...yes?...no?

[@NemesisTWarlock]

uuuuugh. yet another piece of otherwise great software marred by horrible subscription pricing. even the indie "perpetual license" only gives you a year of updates.

[@RizomUV]

"Even the indie "perpetual license" only gives you a year of updates" - True, but you own it, and can use it until the heat death of the universe.

[@AugmentedJin-ho8qt]

lol. nope.

[@hirkdeknirk1]

I have nothing against rent-to-own, but it's too expensive.

[@igorthelight]

150 Euros and it's yours forever! ;-)

[@anth5189]

They can shove it. Will not use "subscription" based software. It is a scam. Always has been. If everybody boycotted subscriptions they would stop doing it. Wake up.

[@RizomUV]

"Ah s**t, here we go again" It's not subscription for Indies. It's either, perpetual = 149.9 euros to buy outright, with a years worth of updates, and you can use it until the end of time, you own it. Or, Rent-to-own = 14,90 euros a month, for 10 months, at which time it converts into a perpetual license. Aka, you own it, forever

[@davidandrews2822]

Here ! Here! I second that motion! Why pay for "subscription' when you can use that money to buy bacon 🐷🥓🥓🥓& eggs🥚🥚🍳for you and your sexy wife. Buy the subscription and you'll end up starvin like marvin ! Marvin spent his money on the subscription, now he and his wife are starving every month. (and he still never uses the software because he's always hungry and losseing weight ) Marvin's wife filed for a divorce last friday night and took the kids to live with her mother in Chicago. So you're right anth5189, it's a scam, its evil, it's a cult. Marvin drank the kool aid !🍷 (RUN ANTH RUN ! )