Games Workshop is DELETING Warhammer

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@DiscourseMinis
@DiscourseMinis 2 ай бұрын
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@RighteousInquisition
@RighteousInquisition 2 ай бұрын
How to complain about the advertisement of the 3D printers of course it's far more complicated than a spoon and just clicking and dropping files. Setting the damn spindle plastics into the hopper for example. Making sure that the system update works properly because they often have fun when they come with programs. Plastic shrinkage and some of the files that people post are more often than not incomplete or lousy in details so you need to make your own Improvement and learn about structural Integrity once the models are printed.
@Openedheartsurgeon
@Openedheartsurgeon 2 ай бұрын
I'm In belfast and have a helms deep to go to war with...
@charlesslaton5924
@charlesslaton5924 2 ай бұрын
I don't feel bad 3d printing things that GW doesn't actually sell anymore.
@GH-nk1eu
@GH-nk1eu 2 ай бұрын
I don't feel bad pirating anything when a company takes every chance to Nickel and Dime it's base, whilst also posting record profits. FAFO.
@incredibleflameboy
@incredibleflameboy 2 ай бұрын
I cannot reiterate how important people scanning and saving 3d files of minis are. We think of lost media as being just video and audio files but anything can be lost. We've got the technology to save these things now and the only person whining about it is James workshop. I'll buy a mini that I want, no problem GW that's fine but when I try to buy it and what's that? It's now 25% more expensive because I planned to get it when I first started building the army and it's an expensive mini? Well I can't afford those infantry I wanted. Oh wait, you don't sell that anymore because you, I guess don't want to? Well there's no point in me buying that big expensive mini now unless of course someone has saved that mini as a digital file that I can recreate myself. It's worth pointing out that back in the day kitbashing was seen as the correct way to build an army but now the mini has to be exactly what they sell so there isn't even scope to make new units from different kits which is extremely on topic for this video, my 4th guard army was made almost entirely from infantry squads because it looked cool to have everyone wearing the same uniform with upgrades on individuals who were higher up. They can't have it both ways, they either have to make things available or accept that people will find a way themselves. Supply and demand works both ways.
@Redtecho
@Redtecho 2 ай бұрын
I don't feel bad for 3D printing things.
@yagsipcc287
@yagsipcc287 2 ай бұрын
I never did mostly use other peoples models anyway
@markbedwell3100
@markbedwell3100 2 ай бұрын
My printers go bruh bruh. I don't feel bad at all, screw gw.
@efrenchavez0
@efrenchavez0 2 ай бұрын
i despise the new website
@NightfallTH
@NightfallTH 2 ай бұрын
You don't need lots of business experience to recognize in-house garbage as such. Multi million dollar company, Ladies and Gentlemen.
@johnwotek3816
@johnwotek3816 2 ай бұрын
That website fucking sucks... not intuitive, hard to find anything, to mush flasshy bullshit... what the fuck were they thinking?
@maxbrandt6
@maxbrandt6 2 ай бұрын
It is absolute garbage!
@MegaGothrocker
@MegaGothrocker 2 ай бұрын
Same, its fucking awful
@lohikaarmeherra-1753
@lohikaarmeherra-1753 2 ай бұрын
Every time they update the website is worse for it.
@bassistcz
@bassistcz 2 ай бұрын
I think I've gotten "release fatigue" from GW's pace, I used to get really excited seeing new releases coming out, but now it's just another week. I suppose the good news is it's cured me of my FOMO impulse to want to buy GW models.
@christopheraaron1255
@christopheraaron1255 2 ай бұрын
I remember when it was once a month. Good times.
@timothyharnedy4495
@timothyharnedy4495 2 ай бұрын
I've accepted that there are more miniatures in the world that I would like to paint then I will have time to paint before I die. So, if GW stop selling some of those models before I get them it's no big deal to me. There are plenty more models on my list.
@tine1012
@tine1012 2 ай бұрын
Yeah GW is going to run into the same issue as Wizards of the coast is having. If you start pushing too much product people dont care anymore. In MTG everytime a new set is released the next one is already announced. And outside of a few Mega whales people stop caring.
@CatroiOz
@CatroiOz 2 ай бұрын
Bro play anything that isn't Space Marines and you won't get release fatigue 😂
@timothyharnedy4495
@timothyharnedy4495 2 ай бұрын
@@CatroiOz - I have an Ork army. I'd like to do a Dark Eldar army. And an Eldar army. And an Imperial Guard army. And an army of Blood Angels in Horus Heresy. And Solar Auxilia in Legions Imperialis. And I have Empire and Beasts of Chaos armies for TOW, and am working on a Chaos Warriors army. And want to do Goblins and Dwarfs and maybe High Elves... It might be easier to list what I'm not interested in: Nurgle and Skaven. Yeah, that list is a lot shorter.
@lieutenantartus
@lieutenantartus 2 ай бұрын
This is why I have little problem with recasting. Recasting models that are out of production and price gouged on eBay harms nobody, GW would not have made the sale since they removed the models, some guy makes £100 or so, and I get some classic nostalgic models
@Psunabudes
@Psunabudes 2 ай бұрын
Never bought recast minis, hows the quality? Is it hit or miss depending on the seller? If so, how good are the good recast miniatures?
@ThucNguyen-rc7bj
@ThucNguyen-rc7bj 2 ай бұрын
@@Psunabudes really hit or miss, but if you have experiences in building model, its not that hard to fix warp part or flash.
@delphinazizumbo8674
@delphinazizumbo8674 2 ай бұрын
@@ThucNguyen-rc7bj what happens when you play with a nerd who only plays with official sculpts?
@ThucNguyen-rc7bj
@ThucNguyen-rc7bj 2 ай бұрын
@@delphinazizumbo8674 tbf my local game store is kinda chill if you just play for the fun and non-competitive match, if you actually in the tournament than that a different thing.
@petercanning3326
@petercanning3326 2 ай бұрын
It gets even more disturbing when you order a recast miniature and the one that turns up seems to be better quality then the original lol
@tharkwarrior
@tharkwarrior 2 ай бұрын
"When a model gets long in the tooth, GW like to retire it and replace it with a newer more expensive one." Unless it's Eldar. 90% of the Space Elves are over 20 years old. Oh, and she's right Bambu Labs A1 is an amazingly easy to use printer.
@ScooterinAB
@ScooterinAB 2 ай бұрын
What are Eldar? Nobody plays that fictitious non-space marine army.
@maxkircher4671
@maxkircher4671 2 ай бұрын
You say that like it's a bad thing. I WISH more of the ranges for my 40k armies were still the same model sculpts from over 20 years ago. If it weren't for them discontinuing the Guardian box set I'd be seriously considering starting an Eldar army these days.
@sargonixofur1234
@sargonixofur1234 2 ай бұрын
Eldar are a long lived race and reluctant to change. Their range refresh rate is lore accurate.
@RighteousInquisition
@RighteousInquisition 2 ай бұрын
More like baby teeth
@chandlermorris1
@chandlermorris1 2 ай бұрын
I had a GW employee try to tell me that Eldar have been getting tons of new stuff. I stared blankly
@HolyknightVader999
@HolyknightVader999 2 ай бұрын
"If it's not Space Marines, it's not essential." -GW
@sw-gs
@sw-gs 2 ай бұрын
If it's not Ultramarines, it's not essential." - GW 2024
@SymbioteMullet
@SymbioteMullet 2 ай бұрын
"If it's not a special edition lieutenant, it's not essential"
@TGC1775
@TGC1775 2 ай бұрын
“If it’s not a blueberry then it’s tasteless” - GW 12ed
@Ayahuasca98
@Ayahuasca98 2 ай бұрын
Specifically, the primaris
@Copium5000
@Copium5000 2 ай бұрын
Gabriel Seth was right. And then they merc’d his arse too
@Totallynotatrollaccount
@Totallynotatrollaccount 2 ай бұрын
Step One- Save up for 3D Printer and some resin. Step Two- Pirate the entirety of GWs catalog (which is far easier to do than you might think and free for the most part) Step Three- print dream army for you and your friends Step Four- enjoy the hobby without the need of a soulless billion dollar corporate machine.
@stillwatersrundeep001
@stillwatersrundeep001 2 ай бұрын
Where do you think the designs for those models you're happily pirating comes from, and who paid the people who made the designs? You're no better than a common shoplifter gloating about the the stuff they pinched from the people who paid for them.
@Totallynotatrollaccount
@Totallynotatrollaccount 2 ай бұрын
@@stillwatersrundeep001 lol
@blw4089
@blw4089 2 ай бұрын
​@@stillwatersrundeep001lmao. 😂😂
@downhillchaos3012
@downhillchaos3012 2 ай бұрын
@@stillwatersrundeep001 Imagine defending a company that hates and actively works against you and what you like.
@Ryan-cz9wv
@Ryan-cz9wv 2 ай бұрын
@@stillwatersrundeep001 Grow a spine this company doesn't care about the consumer anymore.
@elGordo1888
@elGordo1888 2 ай бұрын
The pace of GW releases is so ridiculous it's pointless even engaging with them now. Completely agree about the Bambu A1, it's absolutely ace!
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 2 ай бұрын
You know you don't have to buy ALL the releases, right? ^^' In 2024, I've bought three new miniatures released this year, two of which were promotionnal (anniversary of the shop of my town and the White Dwarf). THe last one was the new Jet Pack Canonness in the Battle Force. They release a ton of models, because they know they have different players for each army, so to have everyone get a new thing that interest them, you need a ton of different releases ^^
@Lessons_from_the_front
@Lessons_from_the_front 2 ай бұрын
"... a year, two years ..." 🤣The figures currently on my painting desk are from the 4th edition Fantasy Battle box set, which I bought when it came out, and ... I had to check ... 32 years ago.
@xsveron1287
@xsveron1287 2 ай бұрын
slow and steady wins the race
@Aenarion28
@Aenarion28 2 ай бұрын
My collections are comprised of 4th through 8th edition miniatures. You're not the only one
@Tipsythomas
@Tipsythomas 2 ай бұрын
Same here budy 😅
@RighteousInquisition
@RighteousInquisition 2 ай бұрын
My death watch models are staring at me from the pile of
@BryanLeeDavidson
@BryanLeeDavidson 2 ай бұрын
I love these commercials for One Page Rules!
@daerovius7535
@daerovius7535 2 ай бұрын
One Page RUles : the wargame for people with One Brain Cell
@brotheralaric7177
@brotheralaric7177 2 ай бұрын
@@daerovius7535 or people who refuse to buy overpriced stuff that should be free or less costly, but continue to defend GW , they will glade to continue to pump your money .
@blw4089
@blw4089 2 ай бұрын
​@@daerovius7535Bullshit
@chahirotsunaki3792
@chahirotsunaki3792 2 ай бұрын
I just wish they would announce who is getting retired or re-released. Like it would even make sense for them because people would either buy up remaining stock or start getting hype for the new thing. But I'm not a multi million dollar corporation, so what do i know?
@Nick-cs4oc
@Nick-cs4oc 2 ай бұрын
Stare not into the void ‘n all that
@ghostwolf4354
@ghostwolf4354 2 ай бұрын
This is one advantage of playing historical games; it's not like they can cancel out Sherman tanks...
@Charles-m3w
@Charles-m3w 2 ай бұрын
Flames of war is dope
@KevinoftheCosmos
@KevinoftheCosmos 2 ай бұрын
(for halloween costumes) When the videogame companies got too big for their britches, I dawned a tricorne hat and a peg leg (never got the hook hand or the parrot). Now that GW is being more GW than GW is even capable of realizing...well, now I'm the "YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD A CAR." thief in the DVDs anti-piracy intro. But I do print cars. And spider tanks, and motorcycles, and flappy airplanes, and even topheavy hulking robot coffins. I can print LITERALLY ANYTHING AND I DO AND I WILL. I wouln't ever say that there are an abundance of proxy STLs that are freely available via electrical "Telegraph" enthusiast hobby clubs. That's right. You can even print books from wireless morse code signals now!!
@RighteousInquisition
@RighteousInquisition 2 ай бұрын
Even for a worthy cause severing your own ligaments is kind of horrific and over-committed. Don't succumb to any more body dysmorphia.
@VerbenaComfrey
@VerbenaComfrey 2 ай бұрын
​@@RighteousInquisitionTHE FLESH IS WEAK.
@paintedweasels
@paintedweasels Ай бұрын
GW is going to turn all printers into STCs, and you'll need to purchase their one-time use STC plastic blueprint chip, which will melt and reform into your model once inserted into their new machine 🤣
@SunChaserXVII
@SunChaserXVII 2 ай бұрын
I was going to say "they're not going to delete the old LRBT" but they might just... replace it with the Dorn I guess? We could end up with a complete separation of tanks between 30k and 40k.
@tomstradetable6940
@tomstradetable6940 2 ай бұрын
Probably replaced with the horus heresy russ kit
@B1-997
@B1-997 2 ай бұрын
@@tomstradetable6940 and the new leman russ tank will be 30 bucks more expensive for roughly the same amount of plastic.
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 2 ай бұрын
Why would they delete it if it still sells well? It would be much more profitable to just create a new sculpture ^^
@mjr8888
@mjr8888 2 ай бұрын
I hope they don't replace the LRBT's. I really love them and they're so cool as models.
@azarththekobold
@azarththekobold 2 ай бұрын
I think I remember hearing a rumor that this is the goal of GW, to separate 30k and 40k as much as possible because they generally don't like miniatures being able to be cross-system compatible. They want you to buy more miniatures and they want each system to be visually distinct. It's why the 30k Mechanicus have no rules for 40k
@christopheraaron1255
@christopheraaron1255 2 ай бұрын
0:45 try playing Dark Eldar.
@azarththekobold
@azarththekobold 2 ай бұрын
Oof ow, please, I know dark eldar love pain but damn, my poor dark elder have had enough
@Isythos
@Isythos 2 ай бұрын
I mean the aeldari stuff is because they are tossing out all the resin prints, which alot of us are happy about.
@f0x4nn3
@f0x4nn3 2 ай бұрын
I only hope they bring the nighwing back in plastic
@JaggedPaintchip
@JaggedPaintchip 2 ай бұрын
I agree but disagree. I hate the old crappy resin and resin in general but I am sad about the forgeworld stuff going away. I love the look of all three of those sets. They haven’t made most forgeworld stuff plastic. Now if they did that I have no problem with it but they won’t.
@Worldindecline690
@Worldindecline690 2 ай бұрын
@@f0x4nn3 I hope they don't discontinue the hornet or lynx...
@danepatterson8107
@danepatterson8107 2 ай бұрын
I quit playing GW games and buying their products when they killed off the old world, and I have never, ever regretted that decision or missed warhammer in any form.
@gamer7138
@gamer7138 2 ай бұрын
I mean, old world sucked ass and didnt sell it was on life support so good riddance.
@johnwotek3816
@johnwotek3816 2 ай бұрын
@@gamer7138 Fantasy was fine, but it was barely supported. Player could go on full decade without anything new for their armies.
@gamer7138
@gamer7138 2 ай бұрын
@@johnwotek3816 Yea that is straight up being delusional about it doing fine, it didnt attract new players so was guaranteed to kick it. good riddance and now AOS exists which is way better.
@brycemcewen6146
@brycemcewen6146 Ай бұрын
​@@gamer7138lol delusional take there mate 😅😅😅😅
@brycemcewen6146
@brycemcewen6146 Ай бұрын
​@@gamer7138AOS shit the bed so hard there still cleaning it up
@sayloth
@sayloth 2 ай бұрын
They have a license they need to follow the rules on through whom owns the LOTR ip. United Arts is to blame not GW. This has zero to do with balancing. It's mind blowing to me that you can read their quarterly reports about all of this but everyone gets their b.s. info from youtube.
@NemesisRavebane
@NemesisRavebane 2 ай бұрын
Big Scandal! Company that sells products refreshes old products with updated techniques and better scaling (for a higher price), discontinues old products because they're outdated and not aligning with the current scale of the refreshes. Like I get they're being greedy, I really wish they'd adopt a "easy to access" mindset for the game so that people will bulk buy their products more often, considering armies require a LOT of miniatures. But on the flip side, they're also acknowledging that unlike the rules and whatnot, it's harder to maintain a consistent refresh of buying products since the miniatures can last through 5 editions. Legit it's like asking Apple to still sell the original iPhone when things have updated so much that we're now on the iPhone 10 and complaining that the phone has gotten more expensive (even though it's gotten way better tech than the original).
@NemesisRavebane
@NemesisRavebane 2 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be negative here, I legitimately just feel like a company trying to condense their production to fit a certain standard is often just how things go. The current plastic injection moulding is just cheaper and easier than doing resin or pewter, and keeping the latter around racks up more costs than simply moving everything to the current plastic. I would like to see the removed models return in a new form and it seems like they've been doing so this far, and I would like to see the price reduced so more people can enjoy the hobby.
@Dtyn8
@Dtyn8 2 ай бұрын
I don't so much mind them retiring old product, but it would be good to get a heads up for consumers. You mentioned Apple; they don't sell the original iPhone, no, but they do say when support is ending for a product. Ideally GW should do the same, especially if they want to update rules systems and army lists so frequently.
@toma.1670
@toma.1670 2 ай бұрын
I avoid the treadmill by playing "One Page Rules".
@winksley1981
@winksley1981 2 ай бұрын
Yeah like wise
@Avedominousnox
@Avedominousnox 2 ай бұрын
Something that really bugs me is that with no communication whatsoever they increased the new night lords kill team from 62 usd which is a base price for 10 csm and made it 70 usd and then again they raised the price to 75 usd
@sergeiyamagoro431
@sergeiyamagoro431 2 ай бұрын
This is why I spent the last couple years buying the units I wanted even though I'm slow to finish them. You can't trust them to be in stock when you're ready to paint them.
@lostbutfreesoul
@lostbutfreesoul 2 ай бұрын
This happened before, and will happen again. One Page Rules will ensure you can keep your Models in Play!
@springheeledjackofthegurdi2117
@springheeledjackofthegurdi2117 2 ай бұрын
the "just play an old edition" argument always annoyed me as its not very viable for a lot of people as most gathering places for wargaming and roleplaying takes place in hobby shops and most of these aren't indie anymore and rely on the current editions to keep a bottom line, so will dissuade people from playing them or not give them a table. It can be very hard to get groups going especially if your in an area without a big scene or has people that are too married to playing what's current, additionally, there can be a cut off for resources as not all older games have good teaching tools and play aids and there not always in obvious or securce places. Some due to content can be banned from establishments and that can be over rather minor stuff that the venue holder either finds objectionable (str -4 anyone?) or based on a myth about it, I once had a D&D setting book rejected for use at my college club because the staff supervisor looked it up and a journo said it was racist (never stated why in the article he used btw). This isn't even getting into printed models which some places ban which can be a life preserve for older systems.
@ryuutohazame3349
@ryuutohazame3349 2 ай бұрын
GW REALLY wants to lose the war against 3D printers
@brien656
@brien656 2 ай бұрын
It's the never ending GW way of doing things,. they've just gotten faster at doing it.
@ashtannarbaugh8494
@ashtannarbaugh8494 2 ай бұрын
Welcome to being behind on the times. Guard and Aeldari codexes are coming out first of next year. So just like every faction that has come out, ranges of models have been purged along with re-released or new models.
@JMcMillen
@JMcMillen 2 ай бұрын
But do you really think they will be adding the Hornet, Wraithseer, Warp Hunter, etc... to the new Aeldari codes? I certainly hope so, especially as the latter two would just be a single upgrade sprue to an existing kit and the Hornet is just plain cool.
@ScooterinAB
@ScooterinAB 2 ай бұрын
And 11th edition is supposedly coming out at the end of next year, which is another problem all together.
@ashtannarbaugh8494
@ashtannarbaugh8494 2 ай бұрын
I just want to point out I wasn't trying to be negative. I'm an old sarcastic ass. And I listen to Discorse on the regular. But... 10th has already been dubbed the edition of loss, and I had assumed she would have been up to date of this. Everything she is going through has been going on since the launch of the edition. Every faction has gone through this. And in my unfortunate case, Necrons and Nids got to do it twice.
@gabeperras3711
@gabeperras3711 2 ай бұрын
Don't stress out about models being removed from the store. They'd be out of stock anyway
@Nick-cs4oc
@Nick-cs4oc 2 ай бұрын
“You want the codex, data cards, half the characters or that one cool, somehow not completely outrageously overpriced unit? mb, can I interest you in this collection of units and characters you already have?”
@zombiehampster1397
@zombiehampster1397 2 ай бұрын
I guess its appropriate that they are applying Stalin's political tactics in making things disappear... That Minas Mogul castle you printed out is pretty sweet.
@stevenmcgrath5114
@stevenmcgrath5114 2 ай бұрын
I have been 3d printing fir years, nothing like being able to 'print' what you want when you want it. This is a real threat to GW they seem to ignore at their peril.
@ScooterinAB
@ScooterinAB 2 ай бұрын
It's not a threat, but they are foolish to ignore it.
@mjr8888
@mjr8888 2 ай бұрын
I'm so pissed they removed Iron-Hand Straken, because he was the only decent melee guard model we had. Yet there are plenty of other factions that are the shooting type that still have a decent model or two that can do melee stuff
@DiscourseMinis
@DiscourseMinis 2 ай бұрын
The model is a banger too!
@subaidedwarder286
@subaidedwarder286 2 ай бұрын
Ive been crying all night since you posted this video. I just dont know what to do. Could this be the end of warhammer? Please post another video soon, so i know what to do. You are the most trusted source on youtube.
@charliedavis3931
@charliedavis3931 2 ай бұрын
Wait, you have a 3D printer and you still buy from GW. If I had space for one of those...GW would never see another scent of my money, maybe I'd buy their paints. Also proxies for the win. I use my WE in my Blood angels list all the time cause F*ck buying more intercessors.
@Nick-cs4oc
@Nick-cs4oc 2 ай бұрын
I’m quite happy with how many options I have for Necrons. I can actually use a transcendent C’tan in this lifetime
@Starexe97
@Starexe97 2 ай бұрын
You got Bambu as your sponsor??? That is so cool! I just literally bought the P1S.
@johntaylor8469
@johntaylor8469 2 ай бұрын
As a new person brought in by the fantastic lore and universe of warhammer, I was incredibly disappointed by the state of the miniature side of it. Pricing, FOMO, rule changes, everything they do is anti consumer and I think I’ll just stick with the novels lol
@nadinabbott3991
@nadinabbott3991 2 ай бұрын
I recommend one page rules. You got minis? Bring them in. You want to use the latest? Sure. You got a bunch of oh I don’t know, Star Wars models…bring them on the table. You want one of their armies, go for it.
@badbishop1049
@badbishop1049 2 ай бұрын
I noticed years ago that tournament rules began to become the norm for house rules and its stupid. Back in 3rd edition when i started playing, proxy models were hardly ever a big deal unless you were trying to proxy a Forgeworld model like a titan or something. During the scatter dice era it was pretty common to use a d3 instead of a d6 because of how wild the inaccuracy of blast template weapons were and that often resulted in round after round of hitting absolutely nothing or hitting only your own models. Casual players seem to be a lot more uptight about rules these days. I say play with rules that make the game most fun.
@nadinabbott3991
@nadinabbott3991 2 ай бұрын
@@badbishop1049 exactly. Also OPR has that fourth edition flavor we all love. I hav3 not played at a game store in a long time. We have a game room. That’s a whole different kettle of fish. But chiefly, there is no crazy treadmill to OPR, or FOMO
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 2 ай бұрын
You're comparing the Leman Russ, the most selled tank of the Guard (because yeah, the important thing is sales), to Devastator and Tactic, that have been replaced by new Primaris models, and to obscure datasheets that no one bought anyway. Yeah, the Leman Russ will be replaced one day, probably. But it won't be completely erased, that's just absurd. There's still Rhinos and Land Raiders on the store, and I'm pretty sure there's more Leman Russ sold than Land Raiders XD
@ScooterinAB
@ScooterinAB 2 ай бұрын
The Leman Russ, the most sold tank, compared to the tactical squad, the most sold unit in the game's entire history.
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 2 ай бұрын
@@ScooterinAB The tactical squad is not the most sold when it will be retired, as it was replaced with intercessors XD
@ScooterinAB
@ScooterinAB 2 ай бұрын
@@krankarvolund7771 A unit that sold for something like 5 editions held up pretty well.
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 2 ай бұрын
@@ScooterinAB They don't care if it sold well for five editions what matters is if it's selling well now.
@ScooterinAB
@ScooterinAB 2 ай бұрын
@@krankarvolund7771 You need to learn what words mean.
@GentlemenMonkey
@GentlemenMonkey 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely 100% unrelated to the topic.... . . . 3D printers are pretty useful sometimes.
@shadowlord5310
@shadowlord5310 2 ай бұрын
Play any One Page Rules?
@5oh_Lelo
@5oh_Lelo 2 ай бұрын
So... are they expected to continue manufacturing every mini ever produced, PLUS update those same models to keep it fresh, PLUS keep the prices the same between new and old sculpts? I'm sure that will generate plenty of revenue to fund other projects like Space Marine 2, Total War: Warhammer, and other forms of media that ultimately push new players to the hobby making it easier for everyone to find new groups to play with... Not to mention how difficult it would be to balance the game if every single data sheet ever imagined was still being used.
@vanzetti1927
@vanzetti1927 2 ай бұрын
Yes. 😎
@mattmiller7700
@mattmiller7700 2 ай бұрын
This. Jesus Christ the whining about not being able to buy something after it's been on the store for at least 5+ f***ing years is so stupid.
@jamiep9991
@jamiep9991 2 ай бұрын
Remember when they at least gave us the illusion of putting old models on "rotation"? I do and now they just hope that people dont notice.
@stevenmcgrath5114
@stevenmcgrath5114 2 ай бұрын
I am a Steel Legion man myself, if any Imperial Guard faction needs a refresh, it is the Steel Lgion .
@marvinnunez7083
@marvinnunez7083 2 ай бұрын
Got off the treadmill in the middle of this year. Gave away most of my armies, tossed all the others that were in boxes and half painted. And not just GW, Corvus Belli, and most of the rest. The amount of space I now have in my garage and house is pretty insane. All the sprues, boxes and bits are all gone. I personally feel waaaay better.
@alpheuswoodley8435
@alpheuswoodley8435 2 ай бұрын
I was going to see if WW3 had started, but then I saw you dropped a new video!
@Gudbjarten
@Gudbjarten 2 ай бұрын
Holy shit...new video title. I never thought I would live to see the day 😂😂😂 Love your videos on both channels by the way...even though I do miss the skits
@optiondezzo1513
@optiondezzo1513 2 ай бұрын
ig stuff are being removed because they are releasing new codex soon. they kinda hinted at it at a roadmap a few months ago.
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, they do that at every new release ^^
@euanthompson
@euanthompson 2 ай бұрын
What worried me is that they have already said that kill teams will now last only 3 years and then will be removed from "rotation". They aren't planning on putting that on the box or anything so that you can know when that will be, so it is going to suck for anyone buying in late that doesn't know it. But I also worry that they might try this with the larger games if it works. Every edition an entire army refresh would be nightmarishly expensive for everyone. The only thing I think that would stop that is the sheer size of the ranges, but to some extent we do already see this with refreshes/removals every edition.
@poffertjeseten
@poffertjeseten 2 ай бұрын
Why did you remove the vid the first time?
@DiscourseMinis
@DiscourseMinis 2 ай бұрын
Error with the audio! Fixed now :)
@sheepman6291
@sheepman6291 2 ай бұрын
As a plastic injection molding business owner, I can tell you Injection molds have a lifetime. They can be used only so many times before they have to be repaired or replaced. It also takes a great deal of time to install the injection mold and fine tune the machine to the mold. Injection molds are heavy and take special equipment to have them installed. To machine the highly detailed injection molds GW produces a special CNC mill with a high-speed RPM spindle is required. It can take 2-3 weeks of machining time to carve the excellent mold cavities GW creates. They also don't teach the kind of micro milling in school. I know. This is not including the drawing time on Z-brush. To be honest it makes complete sense for GW to change things up and charge more money. Although I would rather, they still produce the old stuff. Politically I agree with this video.
@yagsipcc287
@yagsipcc287 2 ай бұрын
All about replacing everything with lame Prime Boiz. They should of just released Prime Boiz as a new armour and scale instead of messing with everything so much.
@ScooterinAB
@ScooterinAB 2 ай бұрын
I agree. It could have been 2 or 3 new marks of power armour and some new units. Instead, they double the size of the range needlessly and stripped everything down. With the exception of Phobos models, Primaris Marines are almost all very dull. Chapters mean nothing, everyone looks the same (complete with monopose models), and models lack any decoration that Marines are know for. Every unit is armed the same to the point of entire units existing because their bolter has different stats. It's such a slap in the face to all the people that propped up the company with their Space Marine armies.
@slackeratlarge575
@slackeratlarge575 2 ай бұрын
Sounds like refreshes and price increases coming soon
@VerbenaComfrey
@VerbenaComfrey 2 ай бұрын
I have just been interested in getting started in Warhammer, and everything Ive seen is red flags about even bothering. I love the lore of Warhammer, but will probably end up actually playing One Page Rules with Warhammer flavoring.
@lockandbone6784
@lockandbone6784 2 ай бұрын
I recommend that especially if you don't have any friends that actually play 40k and have 2k point armies
@VerbenaComfrey
@VerbenaComfrey 2 ай бұрын
@@lockandbone6784 Yeah, not yet. I'm kind of wading into wargaming on my own. I have some minis to paint (Idoneth Deepkin and Adepta Sororitas), and am looking at the financial outlay to just get rules and it seems crazy. I'm coming from the land of TRRPGs, where new editions come out every *decade*, maybe.
@lockandbone6784
@lockandbone6784 2 ай бұрын
@@VerbenaComfrey actually same except for the models, I'm painting Ultramarine's, world eaters, tyranids and tau. But same background played 5e for ages, loved the hobby aspect of it and slowly got into Warhammer. I have tons of the shit now but nobody to play with😂
@TableTopTransformer
@TableTopTransformer 2 ай бұрын
What models did you try to get
@inf3243
@inf3243 2 ай бұрын
I honestly can't keep up with GW anymore so have kinda just tapped out. Rules keep changing, points keep changing, and by the time I've got a force together and actually feel like playing a game, a new edition is always just around the corner.
@azarththekobold
@azarththekobold 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I'm with you there. This used to be my favorite hobby and favorite game to play. I have loads of fond memories playing with my ex friends all the way back in 2011 and going down to the local shop to pick up something fun to build and paint. Nowadays it kinda just feels like unless you're playing and hobbying every single day you can't get any solid ground in this thing. Every week something changes and it's too much to follow, especially because they have the gall to charge exorbitant prices for their rules which become obsolete hours later. It's no longer fun
@nadinabbott3991
@nadinabbott3991 2 ай бұрын
We played a game of OPR yesterday. I used my really old I guard…they are OLD. I mean, Valhalla’s, mordían old…we had fun…who needs new minis?
@conmadben
@conmadben 2 ай бұрын
I am using a 10 man melta squad of Valhallans great minies.
@nadinabbott3991
@nadinabbott3991 2 ай бұрын
@ they are. Indeed. We have some of the real old krieg minis too. They have character.
@OverboardDM
@OverboardDM 2 ай бұрын
First ad i watched fully. Bambu labs is a awesome company. Great machines. 👍
@paulprecour3636
@paulprecour3636 2 ай бұрын
Why GW never supported a 'locked box' 3D Printer back in 2014 (!) is beyond me. Digital inventory, print on demand, control what files can actually be recognized by the printer, sell infinite amounts of older and newer models as well as bits and sprues. Terrible neglect and short-sightedness on GW's part.
@Supreme-Mentalman
@Supreme-Mentalman 2 ай бұрын
3D print everything. Everything????? EVERYTHING!!!!!!
@Hypnotic-tist
@Hypnotic-tist 2 ай бұрын
I have the A1 mini - the Bambu stuff is incredible.
@UochRS
@UochRS 2 ай бұрын
im just getting started with the hobby and i wanted to get the classic dr- what do you mean they don't make the boxnaught anymore? what do you mean the librarian dreadnought is in legends?
@cammo1397
@cammo1397 2 ай бұрын
Where did you find the space for a 3D printer...!?
@dumbguy1
@dumbguy1 2 ай бұрын
It's also extremely frustrating and sad, when something gets discontinued, but I can't even find it on the secondary market.
@checkers7730
@checkers7730 2 ай бұрын
As a Horus Heresy player I've noticed DA MkIII shoulder pads went out of stock and now they are gone. Can't even find them through search. Hoping they are pulling them to replace with a plastic kit. Without any mention in the roadmap of elsewhere it is a bit concerning to see.
@bobbodagreen8404
@bobbodagreen8404 2 ай бұрын
GW has been telling us they are retiring metal and resin models for a while now. How is this suddenly news?
@equos5060
@equos5060 2 ай бұрын
GW needs to churn out figures. DM needa to churn new shitty clickbait vids. Simple.
@Stuteba
@Stuteba 2 ай бұрын
I do not worry about Leman Russ and Basilisk profil. Model, yeah. But i'm feeling that the Solar Auxilia was a sneaky update of thoses modeles anyway.
@georgeaitken2719
@georgeaitken2719 2 ай бұрын
I still have all my old cadian shock troops range snipers sanctioned pyskers lieutenants even the starter box it was a considerable range and now part of the the great pile of shame compared with the Astra miltiariam range they have definitely shrunk your choices
@mattheww6250
@mattheww6250 2 ай бұрын
So many models are unavailable on the website as an Australian, but they're still there for me if I go to the UK version of the store.
@badrabbit9703
@badrabbit9703 2 ай бұрын
My answer to 0:56. They're getting rid of forge world, flyers, and artillery from every faction because they hate fun and flavor.
@alicepbg2042
@alicepbg2042 2 ай бұрын
considering the amount of 3d printers around... why don't they sell the schematics or whatever it's called of older models?
@pkkriz8610
@pkkriz8610 2 ай бұрын
GW deleting models isn't usually so bad, but when they pull a lot out at once it's usually a sign of redesigning the army, which is usually when you'll have models you can't use anymore. I still have metal IG storm troopers that became Kasrkin... But those are gone too.
@FeatsDaily
@FeatsDaily 2 ай бұрын
I dunno… looking at the two armies that are getting updated next seems a bit silly. The units getting replaced are the ones that are leaving the store. Forgeworld is its own problem, and tbh, I’m kinda glad those units aren’t being continued. That was an even bigger monetary hurdle to jump through that I kinda hated.
@Riverboat374
@Riverboat374 2 ай бұрын
Warboss Fitz prints, paints, and records a batrep with a new OPR army every week. Free your mind.
@ogfail1867
@ogfail1867 2 ай бұрын
There is a set on Ebay 19.99 +5 USD ends in 2 days, zero bids so far.
@d.o.g573
@d.o.g573 2 ай бұрын
I can assure you that the plastic is NOT EDIBLE - I tried it after being high as a kite
@JPGotrokkits
@JPGotrokkits 2 ай бұрын
You're completely wrong, it pairs very nicely with Monument Hobbies ProAcryl paint.
@wraithneon
@wraithneon 2 ай бұрын
GW went from being a game workshop years ago. Back in the good old days they sold a huge variety of different products, and later you could still build a decent army affordably. Nowadays it just seems like 'modify existing product slightly and jack the price up'. They are literally pricing themselves out of the market. No-one wants to spend hundreds of pounds for half an army.
@nerdytom6881
@nerdytom6881 2 ай бұрын
Anyone get a timestamp for when she gets to the point. I will return soon, thank you.
@ReplicatorFifth
@ReplicatorFifth 2 ай бұрын
If I was a Warhammer player I’d play Imperial Guard. Takes guts to face the monsters the Space Marines eat for breakfast.
@shawnkroll3950
@shawnkroll3950 2 ай бұрын
I grew up on metal / pewter miniatures (and I get why pewter isn't used) and find it funny how plastic was more expensive and now you are pointing this out just really makes me sad.
@Millaninja06
@Millaninja06 2 ай бұрын
There's also been the new EU/UK rules on Resin and Plastic, hence why a lot of resin products are being removed, and how GW packaging no longer have shrink wrap on it.
@DaGoook
@DaGoook 2 ай бұрын
Once I saw Iron Hand Straken was taken off the website I picked up a recast one and finally played with him today leading a glorious squad of 20 Catachans....and his head was popped turn 2 by a Vindicare due to my carelessness. 10/10 would buy and paint again regardless.
@MorbidMind123
@MorbidMind123 2 ай бұрын
The Maleceptor has been out of stock for like three years now...
@B1-997
@B1-997 2 ай бұрын
GW: but dont you dare go buy a recast or 3d print version of it!
@inquisitorvuln
@inquisitorvuln 2 ай бұрын
Oh damn. I didn't even realize this. Wow. Ugh. GW is losing it.
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 2 ай бұрын
Where do you buy it? In France, it's available to buy ^^
@MorbidMind123
@MorbidMind123 2 ай бұрын
@@krankarvolund7771 US and I imagine Canada probably has the same issue
@B1-997
@B1-997 2 ай бұрын
@@krankarvolund7771 one time i have tried to buy GW kits from the EU, they didnt allow shipping outside the EU as part of some agreement between GW and third party stores.
@Harrower13
@Harrower13 2 ай бұрын
Sold my entire collection about a month ago and switched to Battletech. Haven't felt the slightest pang of regret. No more drip feed splat books, no more overpriced models, no more poorly conceived and completely unbalanced rules. Just products I'm actually interested in for reasonable prices, and a company that isn't constantly being shitty to its customers to please shareholders.
@RFischer
@RFischer 2 ай бұрын
This is kinda funny as I just went to look for the Regimental Attache set myself this week. It means you won't be seeing that unit in the new Codex.
@nialltealeaf275
@nialltealeaf275 2 ай бұрын
I'm glad I jumped into the nearest Dropship and fled to Van Zandt. No more Imperium, just Spheroids and Clanners. The box set I got for 40K, Dark Vengeance, is no longer valid unless I play with 8th/9th ed Codexes or Rules.
@masakari
@masakari 2 ай бұрын
GW squatted my twelve thousand points of pro-painted Tomb Kings when they introduced Age of Sigmar. Got rid of every bit of my WHFB stuff and I'll NEVER go back - not insignificant, since I had eight armies. There are less lousy companies out there and GW need to learn a painful lesson.
@ianshaliczer
@ianshaliczer 2 ай бұрын
When you couple this with GW’s “if it’s not in the box, it’s not the the rulebook” approach to writing codices these past several years… Disappeared models means these units will quite literally be erased from the game.
@sleepyspartan1367
@sleepyspartan1367 2 ай бұрын
Sounds like 40k proxies are going to become more common and sold in stores. Like that one (not) kreig 3d printer file that was going around for awhile
@seanvanderstruys5196
@seanvanderstruys5196 2 ай бұрын
Major kill has some awesome proxy models in his shop . If you don't want to buy gw models.
@jfrancis232
@jfrancis232 2 ай бұрын
I need to find that file
@oblivionfan345Tony
@oblivionfan345Tony 2 ай бұрын
Valor Korps models are better than anything GW has ever made
@yagsipcc287
@yagsipcc287 2 ай бұрын
There are thousands of companies and people making high quality models. I support several of them. Also you mean the Valor Korps by The Makers Cult?
@sleepyspartan1367
@sleepyspartan1367 2 ай бұрын
@@yagsipcc287 I don't remember who exactly but I know they weren't valor korps or I haven't seen them among the valor korps minis. I specifically remember one future on them and that was they leaned more into classic German WW1 uniform with spike on the helmet and there were ads on KZbin for
@roguecarrick816
@roguecarrick816 2 ай бұрын
ideally if i was running a successful tabletop game company that for whatever reason had to run gws cyclic model, i think id get ahold of a recaster or 4, trade deal; you guys quite trying to clone our new releases and we'll send you the official files for the older ones we're clearing inventory of. links to the legends sheet for the unit , and a notice on our site that these units have been discontinued but are available here. (and knee cap my pricing department, we're selling a hobby game not a survival staple. a model kit shouldnt cost as much or more than a meal for a family of 4)
@Nick-cs4oc
@Nick-cs4oc 2 ай бұрын
Models don’t bother me nearly as much as codexes, tired of having to buy back in after taking a break. I just want to catch up on my robo-psychos
@stoneifisaunt
@stoneifisaunt 2 ай бұрын
They probably still have the plans to make all these old models just its going to one of those preorders where they now have them for a limited time and even more expensive just like the old battle for macragge box and also have less then what the old box had
@SuperWorldeater
@SuperWorldeater 2 ай бұрын
I wondered who was buying astra militarum...
@siac888
@siac888 2 ай бұрын
WH Noob here. The 40k theme seemed very interesting for me, and i was very close to start a guard army. After this i.. i think its better to just not invest in things i may can barely use. Especially the guard, where a reguoar army can cost 700€ or more!
@solidkreate5007
@solidkreate5007 2 ай бұрын
They don't even give you the paint recipe anymore. GW 2021 website was peak.
@josephyoung2593
@josephyoung2593 2 ай бұрын
There's probably something to be made of the fact that the only part of this video that wasn't essentially true thirty years ago is the sponsor read for 3D printing which renders the core complaint of the presentation basically irrelevant.
@JunoZXV
@JunoZXV 2 ай бұрын
Silly idea: Find a proxy to print on your A1 with a 0.2 mm nozzle? I know "The Makers Cult" on CG trader has a deathcore proxy.
@citadel5835
@citadel5835 2 ай бұрын
i missed out on the regimental advisors too it sucks .all the cool metal models for guard are gone.just rattlings left now
@benjimlem1284
@benjimlem1284 2 ай бұрын
What Jay from RLM said fits GW approach here - "Don't think about it, just consume product and get excited for new product."
@riptors9777
@riptors9777 2 ай бұрын
They really want to take FOMO to the next level dont they? "You better buy these main line models quick before we delete these MAIN LINE MODELS from our catalogue! Also we only produce a very limited number that you will have to fight over with scalpers..."
@johnwotek3816
@johnwotek3816 2 ай бұрын
looking for Elysian drop troop on the internet has made me come accross various recaster of old GW model going back to the old days of OG Rogue Trader. It gave me a certain appreciation of what existed before. The range of the guard before was simply phenomenal. You had everything. It's a shame I got this late in the hobby and that GW burned me out from buying their product.
@ScooterinAB
@ScooterinAB 2 ай бұрын
Rogue Trader, you say? Link or it didn't happen :p
@GreenSwordsman1
@GreenSwordsman1 2 ай бұрын
So im betting theres a piece missing here. Theyve been trying to remove the resin minis that they sell in favor of just plastic
@murder.simulator
@murder.simulator 2 ай бұрын
The post Age of Technology has begun, where things we used to take for granted are long gone and the means to make more are forgotten except by those few who kept the old ways and who possess the fabled STC known as 3D printing
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