Are there any games that you feel are worse than you remember?
@Shendowx3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much any game that had some weird controls for a first-person shooter type of game. I'm talking about is right now there's a standard to what controls should be in the first-person shooter and going back and plain old games that do the complete opposite just feels wrong.
@Azuris1903 жыл бұрын
They are as worse as i remember haha As Sonic as you mentioned, it is just not as good as other Plattformers or following Sonic Titles (CD and even 3D Blast) I also disliked many of the early 3D Games, clunky, slow and ugly, just not as fun as a polished 2D TItle.
@Marthastewart209.3 жыл бұрын
Gex! On PS1, poor controls and camera angles. Also, Rumble Racing on PS2, the graphics make my eyes bleed
@Marthastewart209.3 жыл бұрын
@@Shendowx Try to play any FPS and certain third person shooters on the PSP is such a pain. No right analogue stick, but it clearly needs one
@Shendowx3 жыл бұрын
@@Marthastewart209. I haven't and never again lol.
@cheatsheet33253 жыл бұрын
The obsolete Republican and Democratic parties were replaced by the Dude and Ninja parties.
@GameSack3 жыл бұрын
That would rule.
@linuxlover_84363 жыл бұрын
@@GameSack and at least we'd know where they really stood instead of pretending
@krisfrederick50013 жыл бұрын
Bad Dudes
@linuxlover_84363 жыл бұрын
@@krisfrederick5001 yep, they have to be if they're gonna take on ninjas led by a Dragon Ninja :)
@shivasthong49243 жыл бұрын
I'm voting Ninja party.
@RirseDeBlood3 жыл бұрын
I am surprise you didn't mention a part of Crash Bandicoot that really aged: The save system. You had to get three tokens in a stage to enter the bonus stage and had to speak to your girlfriend to save on your memory card.
@Turbobuttes3 жыл бұрын
To be fair the tokens weren't all that difficult to miss, you just had to break every box you came across.
@brettbaratheon97763 жыл бұрын
I love this channel.
@benmalsky98343 жыл бұрын
At least it was improved in the sequels and in N. Sane Trilogy
@Andres33AU3 жыл бұрын
I remember first playing it without a memory card, and had to write down the passwords, lol.
@brettbaratheon97763 жыл бұрын
@@Andres33AU facts.
@Holammer3 жыл бұрын
I hope people playing the games in the future understand the historical context, how some of them like Double Dragon was a genre defining title of its time. Inspiring games like Golden Axe to develop the concept further.
@dewback883 жыл бұрын
Yes double dragon really helped to move the beat em up games forward. There were few before it but it’s popularity at the time inspired many other great games such as golden axe, final fight, teenage mutant ninja turtles and others.
@GangstaSpanksta3 жыл бұрын
Double Dragon still is a fun game to play today. It needs a proper CRT to look right because of the extremely low res. It was the first game I could 1CC at the Arcades. Not a game for two players, because the people who were skilled at the game would usually kill off a second player if they tried to join. The short game time is actually perfect for the arcade, giving someone else a chance to play and the other player to move on to the next game.
@turrican4d5993 жыл бұрын
@Pro Tengu Yep, like Operation Barbarossa. ;)))
@sparetot3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Calling it a good attempt back in the days, suggests it was a failure. Poor choice of words.
@bland98763 жыл бұрын
Some games are only good in a historical context but they're not really worth playing otherwise I think new super Mario Bros 1 isn't the best new super Mario Bros game however if you look at it knowing it's the first game in the series then it becomes better to play through personally I'd recommend U then Wii then 1 (ds) then 2 (3ds) from best to worst and I played 2 second (wii first) so i was not burned out on the series when I got to it.
@LobsterPuncher3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to be that guy, but the ninjas in Bad Dudes are neither democrat not republican. They are supporters of Omicron Persei 8.
@Walczyk3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU
@sanyr803 жыл бұрын
So you're saying they're {political party I don't like}. Got it!
@TravestyJunction3 жыл бұрын
The game would still be good if they were Republicans.
@Justin_W3 жыл бұрын
I think this revisit to the game was definitely done through a modern lens where everything seems to be hyper-partisan. Back when I played the game originally, I really liked it, but never thought of the enemies as either Republican or Democrat. Ha ha!
@swirlingabyss3 жыл бұрын
Don't tell them about my Poppler addiction.
@johnbonhamsinger3 жыл бұрын
So glad you've mentioned Double Dragon. Decent game at the time, but I feel like I'm going mental when I see people say it's aged better than Streets of Rage 2. Also, side note, Tony Harnell who sang It Doesn't Matter on Sonic Adventure used to be my vocal coach!
@Elkott3 жыл бұрын
Complains about how slow Sonic was on the Mega Drive while over in the UK we had 50hz Sonic, now that is slow
@Elkott3 жыл бұрын
@Benjamin Owuye Jagun so do I, the 60hz version sounds weird to me
@spoonhanz3 жыл бұрын
Master system sonic was better anyway.
@Elkott3 жыл бұрын
@Benjamin Owuye Jagun I still have my original copy, still has the poster folded up inside the case and everything
@wraithcadmus3 жыл бұрын
The other funny thing, they didn't change the input for the demos, so you'd watch sonic slowly walk into a wall, then die to a robo-crab.
@supabass40033 жыл бұрын
Sonic dying while jumping in water at 50hz... nightmares.
@kubev3 жыл бұрын
I still enjoy the original Sonic the Hedgehog for Sega Genesis. I understand that Sonic was marketed as fast, but I ultimately just prefer the original Sonic the Hedgehog game for its flow and how every set of levels feels different from the previous one (until closer to the end, anyway). I've never really cared as much for the other Sonic games, though.
@eskanda34343 жыл бұрын
Same I love the deliberate nature of Sonic 1. It would lack variety if every level was designed exactly the same
@dcashley3033 жыл бұрын
I still think 2 is the pinnacle but just because 1 is slower doesn't mean it's bad. The music alone is enough to get me playing it again and again. Still holds up.
@moonbeam_base3 жыл бұрын
I still love Sonic 1 as much as I did in '91 - it's got the best music and artstyle. Gameplay is slow at times, but even then it's a good platformer. I'm also nostalgic for it.
@elbitxo59453 жыл бұрын
my favourite Sonic just behind Mania and 3 Complete. For many people is too slow and doesn't have that Sonic vibe besides the fist stages, but for me it has better platforming than most other releases and much better level and game design than CD, for example, a game designed to be fast, but then you have to memorice where the teleporters are to be sure you go to the past first, and backtrack in case you accidentally go to the future instead (really annoying).
@HeathenDance3 жыл бұрын
The Labyrinth Zone is just too sadistic. And then, on the final level, they throw another water section again. WHY?!!! But it's still my favourite 16 bit Sonic game. Although, it's far from being on my top 10 plaformers, to be honest.
@RetroClash953 жыл бұрын
Sonic 1 is a fantastic game. The thing is people are usually hung up on the "speed" of the game and the marketing associated with it. Going fast the entire game would be boring as sin and everyone would complain. Going fast in good 2D Sonic games is the player's reward for lite level memorization and making it through precise platforming. Sonic is unfortunately a series that is weighed down by people's skewed perception of what they're "supposed to be." If Sonic 1 had zero "speed" marketing and fell under the cracks it'd absolutely be held in extremely high regard by collectors for being a solid platformer.
@jbfarley3 жыл бұрын
No, it wouldn't
@garaschneider48083 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I blame the "marketing" and the modern boost games for memeing Sonic being all about GOTTA GO FAST and nothing else. The speed isn't the point, it's the reward for the platforming and navigation of the levels where the enemies, layouts, and the physics are your obstacles.
@gluserty3 жыл бұрын
@@garaschneider4808 I felt at first that if I wasn't going fast in a Sonic game, I was playing it the wrong way. I adjusted though and realized the games didn't always have to be played fast.
@SuperHns3 жыл бұрын
Preach. they forget that the physics used to control sonic is what makes sonic a sonic game.
@SpoonyBard883 жыл бұрын
The level design is incredibly bad and it punishes you for trying to speedrun it until you memorize everything. Game sucks, dude.
@jmac79ers3 жыл бұрын
Alot of 16 bit games have aged extremely well, especially the music
@XxxXxx-br7eq Жыл бұрын
They are pretty much timeless because those types of games didn't need powerful machines to be enjoyable. It's games that try to push the envelope that kind of aged poorly
@shiftfire4511 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the 16 bit era was when 2D games started to really *get* what worked and what didn't, and weren't as constrained by the limits of the hardware. Of course, then 3D came in and devs had to learn how to make games in a whole new dimension, so we kinda regressed for awhile there.
@petesmart1983 Жыл бұрын
Cause 16bit games had great controls and 2d graphics don't age unlike 3d grapgics did
@Nai2553 жыл бұрын
The original NES Metroid is hard to go back to, but I loved the sense of exploration back in the day and appreciate the foundation it laid for what remains one of my favorite series today
@TheJacklikesvideos Жыл бұрын
i still stand by the fact that drawing your own map of an alien planet is infinitely more fun than pressing the select button.
@darkman48113 жыл бұрын
I have to say, that was a pretty good impression of HAL-9000 at the end there. Almost sounded like the original voice.
@mrbransformer41843 жыл бұрын
Spoilers!!
@bdwilcox3 жыл бұрын
I agree but it would be hard to get the original actor (Doug Rain) since he dead.
@bra1nc417d3 жыл бұрын
Yea, he definitely gave it that eerie AI feeling.
@Silvergun_Raven3 жыл бұрын
Hey, we have the same picture! Hello, friend!
@darkman48113 жыл бұрын
@@Silvergun_Raven Well, hello there to you too. Always happy to meet a fellow fan of Chrono Trigger. 🙂
@Jesse__H3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I got to experience what it felt like to play many of these games when they were at their best. It's like that old story of the audience reaction to the short film "Train Pulling into a Station" in 1895. I was born at just the right time that I got to be "shocked by the train," so to speak.
@jangobango28473 жыл бұрын
Great analogy lol
@ZinhoMegaman3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think the same way.
@tigerfestivals51373 жыл бұрын
Yeah while there are many old games that are still fun to play there are also many that were novel or innovative at the time but uninteresting or a chore to play now
@cloudtx3 жыл бұрын
Good analogy although I think some enjoyment can still be had if you go into older games with an open mind.
@cloudtx3 жыл бұрын
I'd also like to add that some games really age like wine so to speak. My favorite game of all time is an RPG from the 90's and I only got to play it around 2010-2011. You can get to experience things like that with old games, it all comes down to your taste and the game itself.
@picadk3 жыл бұрын
Two words: WALK button. I haven't seen it used once in the Tomb Raider segment, and it's a gamechanger.
@GTXDash3 жыл бұрын
I was about to say that. I don't have nearly as much trouble picking up items and flipping switches to the extent seen in this video.
@ZinhoMegaman3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the walk button is a must have for anyone playing Tomb Raider seriously and correctly.
@MyBrothersKeeper1013 жыл бұрын
One of the mechanics that made the game what it was for sure
@Crazy_Gamer_OG3 жыл бұрын
Or just play Tomb Raider Anniversary instead. Much better game.
@ZinhoMegaman3 жыл бұрын
@@Crazy_Gamer_OG It is but you must understand that there will be always those who like the original, some even more then the Remake which is absolutely normal. I like both, I play the original on my Xbox and Anniversary on PC.
@LockeTheCole3 жыл бұрын
I've always hated that perception about Sonic. It's not just Joe either and he's right in that the ads are to blame for it. Sonic 1 was a great platformer (Still is IMO). The problem is the ads promised SPEED SPEED SPEED and it's all people cared about because of it. I personally love Sonic 1 FOR it's platforming. 2 and 3/Knux are great games, but they removed a lot of the platforming and it really made them games mostly about just keep running and anticipating/memorizing what was coming up next.
@Zabbath23 жыл бұрын
Sega Lord X also bashed Sonic 1 a lot on his review. I know that Sonic 1 isn't the SPEED based game that was advertised, but it's one of the finest Sega Genesis platformers and a huge classic on this console library. Sonic 2 was great too, and this time more focused on speed. But my favorite is Sonic 3/Knuckles: they had a very good mix of platforming and speed. Short answer: All 3 main Sonic games are good. And both Joe and Sega Lord X bashed way too much Sonic 1 IMO.
@Sakf5043 жыл бұрын
I think Sonic 3 had a fine mix of speed and platforming on most levels, and most of them are really fun to play. Sonic 2 on the other hand is just boring, it has a couple of really good zones, but most of the others are either just holding right and jumping ocasionally or very tedious platforming (much more so than Sonic 1's slowest zones), also, sky chase zone is pure boredom.
@HeathenDance3 жыл бұрын
@Channel Zero There is a long distance between speed and snail-motion. And Sonic 1 has too many snail-motion levels and sections. In lots of occasions you actually have to literally WAIT, before being able to move on. That's simply boring.
@HeathenDance3 жыл бұрын
@Channel Zero I finished the game, but those sections are awful. Sure, I play platformers.
@OaklandJWB3 жыл бұрын
Nah. Marketing has nothing to with it. Its just a very mediocre-playing game with fun character designs and nice graphics. Sonic 2 was a MUCH better game.
@woorusty3 жыл бұрын
Interesting that you prefer the first level of Sonic because it fast, I’ve always dismissed Sonic as boring as I felt it was just “push right and press jump lots”. It was only recently that I gave it a chance and played through it .......and I now love it!I feel the later levels require more skill which I think it better.
@ITNoetic3 жыл бұрын
2:30 I'll push back, even if you don't care. I loved exploring the jungle hub area. It was kind of interesting, and expanded as you unlocked more abilities.
@kajpitynski54713 жыл бұрын
Tomb Raider definitely feels outdated but some of those actions shown in the video aren’t that hard if you correctly use the controls 😄
@Squidward_Tikiland3 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say, he need to get gud!
@markurbanowicz66193 жыл бұрын
I can say the same with crash bandicoot. I agree that those games didn't age well. But you can still make some flawless playthroughs. Crash 2+3 are games that started to shine
@dcashley3033 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you really have to think of the original Tomb Raider games as working on a grid, step back a square, run and hold jump... boom, done! Plus, walking and strafing are your friends.
@DeviantDragonFurry3 жыл бұрын
@@dcashley303 yeah I remember that. You could count tiles on the floor to time jumps.
@HeatingUpDuke3 жыл бұрын
Came here for this, not saying controls are the greatest but man this is some serious noob gameplay
@dirkb97883 жыл бұрын
I loved playing tomb raider at night. The absence of music made it realy cool when i was alone in the dark.
@algunoscuenticos Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@oxwah3 жыл бұрын
Better than I remember? Shadow Dancer on the Genesis. It's practically flawless, especially for an earlier game on the system.
@FinalBaton3 жыл бұрын
Word!
@DeathlessDevil3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, as much as I adore Revenge of Shinobi…Shadow Dancer is so damn tight and polished. Fine wine.
@Kryptonien Жыл бұрын
0:26 "I know this may ruffle some of your feathers and upset some of you - to that I say, I don't care!" Hahahahahahaha
@Kryptonien Жыл бұрын
This is awesome.
@Kryptonien Жыл бұрын
Just subscribed, a rarity for me. Really enjoy your videos. Thanks Joe! :)
@SenseiBonaf3 жыл бұрын
"Nobody ever fired this game up to experience that sweet Sonic Adventure hubworld". Well, I guess my name is nobody then ;)
@ryeb3 жыл бұрын
woah, my name is nobody too! nice to meet you.
@geovane193 жыл бұрын
same, the music is really comfy
@JustAnotherGamerUS3 жыл бұрын
That makes me nobody four.
@PatrickIngham213 жыл бұрын
i loved the hubworld, was disappointed with its removal in SA2
@Claidheambmor3 жыл бұрын
We must be distant family, my name is nobody too!
@fatenabu13 жыл бұрын
A reverse of this would be awesome as well. Games that are better than we remember
@Blueflag043 жыл бұрын
Gate Of Thunder
@gamingwhilebroken23553 жыл бұрын
It would be as that’s much rarer, or at least from what I’ve noticed
@jasoneverett3 жыл бұрын
"there was a chip shortage, anyone remember that?" uhhhhh yeah, and we're still remembering it today
@skins4thewin3 жыл бұрын
While I definitely agree that the first Sonic has aged rather poorly, I definitely have to disagree with your general lack of interest in the 2D Sonic games in general. I was a HUGE fan of the Genesis games back in the day & played the living HELL out of them! No, I don't have quite the hype for them these days but I still enjoy them immensely. The first Sonic was always my least favorite though, I'll give ya that.
@benevans75643 жыл бұрын
I still play sonic 2 about once a year and enjoy it.
@skins4thewin3 жыл бұрын
@@benevans7564 Am actually playing Sonic 2 for the Master System as we speak. Fantastic game, often trashed by those who think it's too hard. Being hard is not at all a good reason to say a game is bad. Sonic 2 for the SMS/GG is in no way a bad game. It is challenging, but I very much like it that way. The controls, graphics & music are all great.
@wettuga27623 жыл бұрын
I played the PC version of Tomb Raider in software mode back in the day, just tried it a few weeks ago with an old 3Dfx card and although the graphics were "great", it took a while to get used to the tank controls again, but eventually it becomes second nature. OK, third nature, but still quite playable and enjoyable even for such an old game, specially with the "upgraded" graphics.
@rars0n3 жыл бұрын
I played the PC version back in the day, accelerated by an Nvidia Riva 128, and have played both the Playstation and Saturn versions quite a bit over the years. IMO, the graphics were never the problem, even though the PC version looked a lot cleaner. The problem on any version was the controls, specifically jumping and grabbing ledges, and aligning the character for things like switches. Tank controls aren't terrible, but they're not nearly as well-suited to a game like this, especially if you're used to decades of standardized control schemes and you try to go back and play it without any practice. They made sense at the time, and the games ARE playable if you take the time to re-learn them, but it can be pretty frustrating at times, when you have a series of careful jumps to make and you keep missing one of them. I agree though, even the Saturn version is both playable and enjoyable. It's a very barren game (including the lack of music), but to me that just adds to the atmosphere, and makes it feel like you're actually, you know, raiding tombs.
@wettuga27623 жыл бұрын
@@rars0n Yep that's exactly the intended feeling, all alone without any background music. I played it all the way to the end. The PC version was better because it allowed to save at any point and redo the difficult jumps if needed, unlike the PSX version.
@rars0n3 жыл бұрын
@@wettuga2762 Yeah, I agree. The game does an incredible job of putting you into that setting. I love the echo of the sound effects and the otherwise quiet nature of the game. Then something comes out and starts attacking you and you have to scramble to kill it before it kills you. All of that would be ruined with music in the background. And honestly, I'd much rather have no music in most games than licensed songs playing in the background (one of the first things I do in most EA games today is disable the music).
@rars0n3 жыл бұрын
@Channel Zero There is no "walk button," Joe is simply having the same problems everyone have after playing nearly 3 decades of more modern games and then going back to this one without any practice of the controls. Because why would Joe spend any amount of time re-learning the controls just to get 2 minutes of gameplay footage for a video?
@victorbranco79283 жыл бұрын
Tomb Raider 1 great atmosphere and great visuals, the gameplay however It sucks, aged poorly, unplayable now.
@clutchkman3 жыл бұрын
Renting Bayou Billy back when it came out let me know not to buy it. So disappointed. I’d still love a Double Dragon arcade port that fixes the frame rate and adds moves and levels.
@nickberthiaume33283 жыл бұрын
Try the GBA version.
@clutchkman3 жыл бұрын
@@nickberthiaume3328 Yes, it’s really good. There’s just something about the arcade though.
@EDFCentral3 жыл бұрын
Got BB for Christmas and it was hard as nails, but I'd try and try for years never beating it. I think I made it to the bourbon street level once.
@shaggyd94313 жыл бұрын
Everytime time Joe sayz "thank u fo watchin Gamesack" @ thee end i always say thank u fo makin gamesack......Fo yearz now 😂
@jfzero5 ай бұрын
Are you still doing it?
@Andrea-di2ew3 жыл бұрын
I love sonic adventure and crash 1. Sometimes games became archaic, but the important thing is having fun and those games are fun to play
@LeeONardo3 жыл бұрын
For Tomb Raider you just need to walk. Hold R1 and you will not fall, walk to the edge. Push back to make Lara hop backwards, you are now the perfect distance to run up and jump to the platform you need. It's really simple.
@ZinhoMegaman3 жыл бұрын
Man the graphics of Sonic Adventure 1 never gets old, it always pleases my eyes!
@ZinhoMegaman3 жыл бұрын
@matt alan Different people, different tastes. For me it is just like when I got It for my Dreamcast i January 2000, beautiful in every way possible.
@benmalsky98343 жыл бұрын
Imagine how amazing they would look in HD! Just look at how awesome they made Perfect Chaos looked in Generations as a starting point.
@ZinhoMegaman3 жыл бұрын
@@benmalsky9834 There is the stage too, Speed Highway, it's a glimpse of what could be on the 7th Gen. Sadly we never got a Generations 2, which if I'm not mistaken was the desire of the fans at the time.
@ZinhoMegaman3 жыл бұрын
@matt alan It's your problem dude, not mine If you think this way. And why are you bothering trying to change my opinion? Do you think the world turns around you?
@KasumiRINA26 күн бұрын
I would argue it was the first next gen platformer. Seeing and playing it on Dreamcast after stuck with PS1 and earlier stuff was like nothing else! Helps that Sonic kept the speed and controlled well when most games moving over to next gen felt sluggish and unresponsive, killing off a bunch of franchises (Syphon Filter, Dino Crisis, almost Tomb Raider with AoD) that were big in previous generation. Sonic mostly skipped one, right? Just updated ports and old school style CD games for 32-bit era.
@EddieJorgeDrummer3 жыл бұрын
This channel is strange in that it clearly is the greatest general gaming channel on KZbin but its subscriber count doesn't reflect that. Thanks for all that you do Joe. Cheers from Toronto
@samhain813 жыл бұрын
Lol it's nowhere near the greatest general gaming channel on KZbin. It's one dude with opinions .. Like everyone else.
@EddieJorgeDrummer3 жыл бұрын
Name a better one 🤷♂️
@nashismox33 жыл бұрын
Well, millions upon hundreds of millions love GTA games, even though these games are just "well made" casual garbage. So don't be surprised if Gamesack doesn't get the subs it deserves.
@EddieJorgeDrummer3 жыл бұрын
@@nashismox3 Hard not to be in my case. I like the bitesized snips of games with just the right amount of info. I also appreciate the extra dive into sound channels and little extra tidbits here and there. Hundreds of millions like Celine Dion; dont make it right tho. :D
@AlyxxTheRat3 жыл бұрын
Regarding Tomb Raider, I think the controls is just something you have to adapt to. For me I have no issue playing the older TR games but I've played them to death so to me the controls are second nature.
@64-Bit-Gamer3 жыл бұрын
I also think Tomb Raider shouldn't be on this list. Once you get over the visuals and controls, games like this are just as immersive today as they were on release. Of course it helps if you played and liked it back in the '90s.
@AlyxxTheRat3 жыл бұрын
@@64-Bit-Gamer Definitely. I think people who didn't grow up with Tomb Raider will always have a hard time adapting to the controls. I just think it is unfair to judge the game by comparing it to other games. The classic Tomb Raider games hold up pretty well in my humble opinion.
@ricsnakes3 жыл бұрын
@@AlyxxTheRat i think the old TR games have more replay value and challenge than the new ones, i still love them.
@sjake83083 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I never liked Tomb Raider, but the thing Joe neglected to mention is that the original PSX controllers didn't have an analogue stick (analogue controllers weren't a thing until the N64 was released), so the tank controls were necessary at the time games such as Tomb Raider and Resident Evil were released.
@AlyxxTheRat3 жыл бұрын
@@ricsnakes I think the new ones are good too to be honest. But they are very different games compared to the classics.
@startedtech3 жыл бұрын
13:00 chip shortage? Something like that could never happen again right?
@heavysystemsinc.3 жыл бұрын
It was a pretty interesting event at the time. I recommend hitting up a google search to get some groundwork to hit up archive.org's magazine and newspapers to get a sense of the computer markets, as the US was entirely tryi ng to make the shortage out to be Japan's Prime Minister enforcing unofficial sanctions on the US technology market in a very xenophobic way. The cause was a lot less sinister, though...I mean, if that was the case, then there would have been plenty of chips available in Japan but nope....they had issues too, but they made them and so obviously, they're first in line to get whatever was available.
@meetoo5943 жыл бұрын
@@heavysystemsinc. Wasnt that due to an earthquake putting a chip factory out of action for a bit or was that another incident?
@TServo20493 жыл бұрын
I remember believing the myth (propagated by I think some retrospective article in EGM, or maybe an early NES fan site - I was only born in 1987) that the chip shortage story was made up by Nintendo to artificially increase demand for their games. I think I eventually discovered (possibly from a Gaming Historian video?) that this line originally came from the head of Tengen, who said plenty of anti-Nintendo stuff at the time of the shortage (totally not surprising that he would, since it coincided with their feud with Nintendo and venture into unlicensed publishing).
@heavysystemsinc.3 жыл бұрын
@@meetoo594 I don't recall specifically but it was sold in the US that Japan was 'sanctioning' the US cause they hated us or whatever...
@ostiariusalpha3 жыл бұрын
@@meetoo594 There was no earthquake, demand just outstripped supply. Simple as that.
@InspirationHouseNetwork Жыл бұрын
"It's interesting trying to analyze something from the past, when the excitement of a game is solely based off of newness and graphics and analyzing it through modern game abilities. 🤔 I've gone back and played many games, and they're just as enjoyable. I guess perspective really dictates observation. 🤷🏽♂️" (-James)
@MA-go7ee3 жыл бұрын
You hated everthing good and unique about Tomb Raider. The restrained, haunting soundscape, the deliberate controls that require thought before one moves or jumps (the heart of the traversal gameplay), the forboding palette etc And worse you prefer the absolutely generic, Uncharted clone remakes.
@JawkneeJay3 жыл бұрын
Thank You. I hate when people say the first Tomb Raider games have bad controls. They are very logical and allow the player to make very precise jumps and movements when You take the time to master them. I always found the first Tomb Raider far more interesting to play than Mario 64?was at the time.
@cloudtx3 жыл бұрын
Eh, while I don't think the original TR is bad, I loved the 2013 reboot. Moreover, I've played some of the Uncharted games and I'd take the TR reboot over those any day.
@NinjaRunningWild3 жыл бұрын
*Sonic was always more about exploration than speed. People just got caught up on the marketing for it because many people are dumb.*
@Zeburaman20053 жыл бұрын
It is rather fascinating how lots of people hating on Genesis Sonic games seem to also lack the ability to enjoy and marvel at what is actually in the games despite expectations.
@slopesgameroom3 жыл бұрын
Wait... Did I just see Sonic on the thumbnail!!!
@AcornElectron3 жыл бұрын
Up early today DJ Slopes? 🕹😂
@GODCONVOYPRIME3 жыл бұрын
We're smoking the same strain duuuuude I saw him too heheheheh!
@goldrush803 жыл бұрын
@@GODCONVOYPRIME now we just need a larry bundy post...
@GameApologist3 жыл бұрын
Audibly sighed when I saw, but watched anyway because Game Sack is rad. I GUESS.
@Blueflag043 жыл бұрын
yes
@bombjack19843 жыл бұрын
The arcade version of Bad Dudes still holds up.
@doktorbeton39763 жыл бұрын
yeah bald dudes rulez
@capcomfan823 жыл бұрын
Not really man it’s better though
@asadavis95323 жыл бұрын
I love the most Data East games I've played. I know they aren't the best but I have always really enjoyed them
@CAPCOM7843 жыл бұрын
@@asadavis9532 Loved Captain America and the Avengers in the arcades.
@asadavis95323 жыл бұрын
@@CAPCOM784 somehow I haven't heard of that. Thanks for sharing I'll def check it out tonight.
@Eden_M0rgan2 жыл бұрын
17:25 THAT WAS SO SUDDEN IT ALMOST SCARED THE LIFE OUT OF ME. HOLY
@jeremyfredenburg38273 жыл бұрын
I have played everyone of these games while they were new I'm 41 literally only spot I disagree is the original crash bandicoot I don't think 90's marketing was as potent as you recall atkeast not anywhere near us but good list sir 👍
@rars0n3 жыл бұрын
You don't think 90's marketing was that potent? What about the Genesis? Blast processing? Genesis does what Nintendon't? I think you have forgotten how ubiquitous the Crash ads were, and how Sony's marketing was at its absolute best during that time. Remember how early Playstation ads had cheat codes hidden in them? Sony had already gained a chunk of the market by targeting older gamers when they started using the Crash ads to not only position him as the console's mascot, but also send the message that they were challenging Nintendo directly with this particular game. And they were doing it by taunting Nintendo on TV. Even as a non-Playstation owner I wanted to play that game. Those ads were super effective.
@FallicIdol3 жыл бұрын
I played the remake on switch, having never played the original. I enjoyed that version, despite the first one being pretty hard at spots
@rars0n3 жыл бұрын
@@herecomesthescience Your mom was living under a rock. And that's just your opinion. Mario 64 is a far better game IMO.
@rig853 жыл бұрын
Crash Bandicoot has flaws, but it’s the single game in this video where I’d argue may not belong on the list. (I know, it’s Joe’s list.) It provides a great challenge to complete. Way harder than comparable games of the time (like Mario 64).
@rars0n3 жыл бұрын
@@herecomesthescience I never said that anyone was being brainwashed. I simply said that the commercials were ubiquitous and effective. Case in point, I didn't even have cable back then (all of our TV was over the air, so we had about 5 channels to watch) and I still saw a lot of them. Sony spent a lot of money to advertise that game and the ads worked. There's no doubt about that. My statement that your mom was living under a rock was hyperbole. I lived in a rural area with no cable and still saw lots of those ads. If your mom really didn't see those ads back then, perhaps she really was in a rather remote location where those ads weren't being shown. Or maybe she just doesn't remember them because she wasn't interested in gaming? I can tell you right now that most of my family members probably don't remember them either, because they weren't into gaming like I was. The point is that obviously you weren't there, and your one piece of anecdotal evidence doesn't disprove all of the others, like mine and Joe's considering we were actually alive and actively gaming at the time.
@PikaStu6663 жыл бұрын
I have a serious soft spot for Tomb Raider, particularly the Saturn version. In the UK, we got it 6 weeks before PlayStation owners. What a time to have been a Saturn owner!
@joe--cool3 жыл бұрын
I had the 3Dfx PC version. I still think it holds up. If you never played anything with tank controls I am pretty sure you'll hate it though...
@ThomTomful3 жыл бұрын
@@joe--cool yeah, I replayed the Saturn version a couple of years ago. All the way through, because it was fun.
@cooppp2 жыл бұрын
Joe's criticism of the lack of sound is a strength for me. It makes you more immersed and you really feel like you're in a desolate abandoned tomb
@PikaStu6662 жыл бұрын
@@cooppp I absolutely agree with you, such an atmospheric game thanks to the little musical “reveals” when something is about to happen, and silence the rest of the time. When the music kicks in just before the T-Rex, you know something is gonna happen, but holy crap you don’t expect that!!!
@hyperborean3 жыл бұрын
The amount of effort and the professionalism of these videos is unparalleled on KZbin. Hats off to you sir, your work is brilliant!
@WHATISUTUBE3 жыл бұрын
Crash being "just ok" is actually a monumental achievement. It was an early 3D platformer. I cant name any that still hold up besides mario and crash
@PaperBanjo64 Жыл бұрын
Banjo Kazooie, Spyro the Dragon
@TheJacklikesvideos Жыл бұрын
@@PaperBanjo64 collectathons moreso than platformers.
@KasumiRINA26 күн бұрын
@@PaperBanjo64 both of these games came out in 1998, same year as Crash 3, which aged like fine wine. It's first Crash from 1996 (same year as Bubsy 3D and Mario 64) that was awkward to play, had choppy animation, same-looking levels, no moves except jump and spin, and bad save system. It's a GOOD game just obviously dated even next to Crash 2.
@PaperBanjo6426 күн бұрын
@@KasumiRINA yeah Crash 2 and 3 were more refined for sure
@cireza_ Жыл бұрын
I am going to respectfully disagree about Robo Aleste. The game is amazing and has many memorable moments. When you are flying above the armies in stage 2, with the soundtrack, it is awesome. And there are many other instances, with the rain, at night with the lighting etc... Soundtrack is also very good. Also the first Tomb Raider game has aged technically or in terms of controls, but it was a much more interesting in terms of level-design without all the stupid bloat, pick-ups, NPCs and whatever. Great levels with secrets. And Lara wasn't constantly talking to herself.
@NesrocksGamingVideos3 жыл бұрын
Technical info: the black screen flashes in Double Dribble are the NES' fault, you can't update that much background graphics from one frame to the other, so the screen must be turned off and then on again 2 frames later.
@kevintappminville1953 жыл бұрын
Crash Bandicoot haven't aged a minute!
@Jordan3DS3 жыл бұрын
The level design and controls sure have, though!
@kevintappminville1953 жыл бұрын
@@Jordan3DS Not a minute.
@ultrairrelevantnobody18623 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but Crash 1 is a fundamentally rubbish game. I used to swear by it being good, but the the bland and monotonous design and bad camera made for a thoroughly unenjoyable experience. Crash did eventually become good by the time Warped came out, but that high quality was unfortunately short lived.
@kevintappminville1953 жыл бұрын
@@ultrairrelevantnobody1862 get gud...
@ultrairrelevantnobody18623 жыл бұрын
@@kevintappminville195 Not going to work, bud. Not helped by Super Magnetic Neo being both harder and better designed than Crash 1 & 2.
@bobbyfagan77603 жыл бұрын
I played the original sonic last month, I still love it
@dcashley3033 жыл бұрын
C'mon now, Mark Mothersbaugh's Crash Bandicoot soundtrack is still amazing... oh well!
@45045953 жыл бұрын
Wait... he did the soundtrack?!? I had no idea
@dcashley3033 жыл бұрын
@@4504595 Yep, him, Josh Mancell and Mark's company Mutato Muzika. They did all the Crash games, Sims, Jak & Daxter etc.
@JSchaffer2143 жыл бұрын
I forgot Mothersbaugh did that soundtrack. That explains why I've never really cared for it at all.
@dcashley3033 жыл бұрын
@@JSchaffer214 Haha! Just to get a yardstick, what is a soundtrack you do care for!?
@Jordan3DS3 жыл бұрын
I personally can't think of a single memorable song in the whole trilogy
@Kinglink3 жыл бұрын
My buddy: "Joe's a Sega fan boy, no way he's putting Sonic on blast." Me: "Sonic's in the thumbnail, don't tease me Joe." Thanks Joe for putting my buddy in his place. Then you call out Sonic 1... thank you Joe. I always feel like I'm going to be called out for saying those games haven't aged well., but I'm glad a confirmed Sega fan is saying it.
@solarflare90783 жыл бұрын
I understand what you mean. Yeah, I'm glad Joe isn't afraid to share his opinions on these things
@SharifSourour3 жыл бұрын
I actually had the opposite reaction firing up Sonic Adventure on my DC again recently. Always remembering the janky controls and camera I was actually blown away forgetting about all the variety and content. Since I went in remembering its flaws but forgetting its depth I actually had way more fun than I expected! Being patient is super rewarding! For example the Casino level is a ton of fun, especially if you like Sonic Pinball madness and nods to NiGHTS Into Dreams which was great!!
@CarbonRollerCaco2 жыл бұрын
Even so, you still kind of have to put up with the stilted cutscenes and the inconsistent-though-not-unbearable early game & Knuckles voice acting, especially since the DC version has no cutscene skipping. The story itself is good, though; a great followup to the Genesis games. And it's told in neat ways outside the cutscenes as well.
@SharifSourour2 жыл бұрын
@@CarbonRollerCaco yeah of note is I got the Japanese version DC and game this time, making it a slightly different experience to what I had back in the day, so that must have helped my impression too!
@CarbonRollerCaco2 жыл бұрын
@@SharifSourour So? You can turn on Japanese voices and text in the Western release, too. Heck, that version got released in Japan as Sonic Adventure International.
@SharifSourour2 жыл бұрын
@@CarbonRollerCaco yes I don't think that's the standard one we got out her win Canada
@ChibiMotoki3 жыл бұрын
I thought Sonic 3d Blast was the first time the homing attack was in a game... I remember it being a shield ability, yellow if I am not mistaken?
@Turbulation13 жыл бұрын
Yea technically it was, but only a shield ability and it only worked against badniks.
@AngryCalvin3 жыл бұрын
Sonic Adventure might be my favorite 3D platformer ever. I enjoy playing it today. Has nothing to do with nostalgia either since I never had a Dreamcast or any other console since the 80's. Picked it up on Steam a few years ago and absolutely love it.
@AngryCalvin3 жыл бұрын
Still love NES Double Dragon to this day also.
@CarbonRollerCaco2 жыл бұрын
@@AngryCalvin Well, he was laying into every version of Double Dragon EXCEPT the NES version, so you're no dissenter there.
@solarflare90782 жыл бұрын
Don't let anyone say it's bad because it's the Steam version. These Sonic fans are so disconnected when it comes to what *they* like vs what others like. I still don't like Sonic in any capacity, but these gatekeepers are only part of the reason why. It's finally refreshing to hear an actual opinion for once.
@CarbonRollerCaco2 жыл бұрын
@@solarflare9078 Even the original DC version has issues. Still good, but you might as well get the PC version so you can go insane with mods. Graphically, modelling and texturing are largely matters of taste, but for the love of Chaos, PLEASE get the lighting and transparency fixes. The big bugfix mod is a must, too. Now if only there were something to make those damned cutscenes flow better and give Tails back the Weasel Ball effect on his spins…
@chemergency2 жыл бұрын
The Dreamcast version has aged reasonably well, the ports are all pretty bad though.
@RobertSeeJen3 жыл бұрын
Ecco the Dolphin: Tides of Time is a game I feel has aged poorly.
@HeathenDance3 жыл бұрын
@Jabroni Destroyer Not true at all.
@Monacomaverick3 жыл бұрын
Tides of Time can be tedious when collecting the globes, but the game is pretty awesome overall.
@RobertSeeJen3 жыл бұрын
@Jabroni Destroyer I disagree heavily. Does nostalgia exist? 100% Can it make you love a poorly aged, or bad game? Absolutely. But I don't think I have the mental capacity to fool myself into saying something is good now, because I liked it then. I LOVE Ecco Tides of Time. But! I know it's aged poorly. Hence my original comment. And I can't see myself calling it a great game, or even a good game. So... You're just wrong. On the opposite side of the coin however, I still go back and play Sonic 3 and Knuckles in it's entirety at least once a year because I get the random urge to. And I still think it's a great game. It has a few quirks. But overall, I'd say it's held up. I played a translated version Final Fantasy 3 on NES in the year 2013, and it's my favorite Final Fantasy game on NES, and one of my favorite games on that system in general. I finally played Tetris on Game Boy for the first time at least two decades after it's initial release, and it's still a good time. I had never played A Link to the Past until at least 2005, and it's my favorite Zelda game. I had never played Final Fantasy 3 (6) on SNES until 2005, and that's my favorite Final Fantasy game. I could keep going. But I'll just say this. You're wrong in your statement that games from the 8 and 16 bit era have only "held up" in people's eyes because they are blinded by nostalgia. As well as you saying that all games from the 8 and 16 bit era have aged poorly. Because I never played a top down adventure game like LoZ on my Genesis growing up. I didn't get into block falling puzzle games until I played a garbage version of Tetris on my old cell phone in 2004ish. And Turn Based JRPG's wouldn't click with me (other than Pokemon) until Final Fantasy 1 & 2 on the GBA. So you can't even say that the play styles are what I'm nostalgic for. While I can list a thing from every game I listed that I'm not fond of. That doesn't make it bad. And funnily enough, I know that for two of those games, the parts I dislike, are favorites for others. No game is perfect. But just because a game has flaws, doesn't mean it's a bad game. If that era isn't your thing, that's understandable. But saying that not a single game from that era has aged well, and that nostalgia is what makes people play these games today is incorrect. TL;DR: You're just wrong. Some games hold up better than others. But claiming nostalgia is the only force perpetuating the idea that 8, and 16 bit era games have held up is incorrect. BONUS! Here are the flaws I find in the games listed above, yet I still love them. FF3 (nes): Crystal Tower Tetris GB 89: The stiffer controls FF3(6) SNES: The world of ruin LttP: The dark world Sonic 3 and Knuckles: The abundance of spikes in Knuckles's paths. Ecco the Dolphin: Tides of Time: The controls, and the password system.
@RobertSeeJen3 жыл бұрын
@@Monacomaverick I agree somewhat. I still love that game. And I still play it today. But I still feel it's aged poorly.
@-GoldenThiefBugCard3 жыл бұрын
Loved it when I was younger. I mostly appreciate if for its music and art more these days.
@b0gster3 жыл бұрын
I never like Double Dragon, not even back then. The controls are idiotic. The first really good beat em up in my opinion was Final Fight, it set the standards that all other good games of its genre followed.
@aaronmarko3 жыл бұрын
NO, JOE. NOT SONIC ADVENTURE. YOU'RE GOING TO ANGER THE ENTIRE SONIC FANBASE
@solarflare90783 жыл бұрын
He already has and it's glorious to see how much of them jumped in to defend the game.
@IronBuddha803 жыл бұрын
16:54 Speaking of Karnov, that's a game that should be on this list
@FallicIdol3 жыл бұрын
Karnov has charm
@popcornchokes843 жыл бұрын
Na dag. 9 levels of awesome ness
@solarflare90783 жыл бұрын
At least Karnov got a good port on the NES and was even better on arcades
@dazzio1873 жыл бұрын
"speaking of sonic, sonic genesis..." Inner fanboy intensifies
@Carsonj133 жыл бұрын
You mean because he called Sonic 1 FOR the Genesis Sonic Genesis?
@dazzio1873 жыл бұрын
@@Carsonj13 I mean because that game is still fun to play to this day! It's aged great in my opinion
@Carsonj133 жыл бұрын
@@dazzio187 Well, to each his own, but Sonic Genesis was an atrocious port that wasn't any good to begin with. I can absolutely see why someone would be mad over that.
@highscores85933 жыл бұрын
I played and beat tomb raider 1-3 again in the last few months and had a blast. The first Tomb Raider is still amazing
@chriswheatley31463 жыл бұрын
P.O.W. Arcade I just got done playing it again on the SNK 40th anniversary collection on Steam. Back in the day, it seemed like a fun brawler in the arcade with great sounds every time you knocked out the enemy. Trying it now, it exibits all the worst flaws of arcade quarter crunchers: collision detection off always favoring the enemy, enemies that can move twice as fast as you, enemies that will stay right on top of you to where they can hit you but cant hit them back, enemies that can dodge/block but you can't, and enemies that will hit you upon getting up over and over. Essentially, the game eventually boils down to putting in a quarter, get killed, have a short period of invincibility with your new life to attack assuming they dont dodge/block it, get wiped out when that goes away after a few seconds, repeat until out of lives, insert a quarter, repeat. Frustrating and completely unenjoyable.
@Robahue3 жыл бұрын
Dammit, it is soo true. At least Prehistoric Isle in 1930 was still as good as I remembered!
@GlaucioRSem3 жыл бұрын
8 years watching Game Sack! Luv it so much!🙌👏
@philberto783 жыл бұрын
Tomb Raider is one of those games that we remember fondly because we had a lot more patience back in the day.
@Robahue3 жыл бұрын
Yep. I think that's the key. Having enough patience, amost all these games, then good now not so good games, they become good again!
@KasumiRINA26 күн бұрын
Nah, Tomb Raider is loved because games are just so good, remasters kept exact same gameplay and were a hit, optionally control switch and backporting some TR2 stuff to 1 sure, but even with tank controls it's still great.
@cerberus1443 жыл бұрын
This one hurts to say, but for the sake of the truth... GOLDENEYE
@El_Guapo743 жыл бұрын
I only knew this games from multiplayer but I agree
@EwaY833 жыл бұрын
just replayed the campaign on 00 agent and it was awesome.
@DukeDudeston3 жыл бұрын
100% a lot of people loved it back in the day and with good reason. But today it's just not as good. Personally I never played it "back in the day" but played it round a friend's a few years ago and even they admitted it hasn't aged well.
@battleshits3 жыл бұрын
I remember playing the original Sonic a while ago and I was like, "This isn't as good as I remember it." Sonic 2 however is somehow better than I remember it. I believe that's what Joe means. Also, I played Sonic 2 WAAAAAY more than Sonic 1. People have sentimental attachments to things and sometimes they don't realize how much, even at a subconscious level, that influences their opinions.
@CarbonRollerCaco2 жыл бұрын
Right. If something's shockingly new, the early feelings can imprint on you like a mother bird and be overblown in your mind when thinking about ANY aspect of said thing. Also, things can be judged differently depending on what one can imagine and values. Sonic Adventure 2 is a VERY controversial game in no small part due to those two phenomena considering how much it changed things for Sonic and how many of those that experienced it in its day were new to the franchise because of the circumstances of its release.
@archbrix3 жыл бұрын
Spot-on video. When I first saw MUSHA appear I was like, "Wait, What!?" But then I realized that you were actually a fan of that game instead and not insane, lol. Agree with all of these picks.
@danielpagan28483 жыл бұрын
I played the first 3 Sonic games from start to finish recently and I vehemently disagree. They still look and sound terrific, play great, and are a ton of fun. The Adventure games on the other hand...
@martynodonnell84673 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s obviously an opinion based show. Each to their own, there’s a few games I don’t agree with here either. I think Sonic started to go due hill with Sonic and Knuckles, the levels just weren’t as engaging to me as the earlier Sonic games. They continued down hill from there especially with the following Sonic 3D blast. I don’t think Sonic transfers well to 3D gaming. The first Genesis game I ever played was Sonic 1. So many fond memories. It’s a game that definitely holds up. I still go back and play it from time to time. More so than the later 2D sonic games.
@brendankennedy50763 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree about Knuckles being the downfall. Some levels were cheap and clunky however. Sonic 3d wasn’t bad either. Sonic 1 just has a funky vibe in the music and level design, things were original. Knuckles levels weren’t as iconic but the game was epic overall.
@GundamWarrior13 жыл бұрын
The majority of the 32/64 bit era doesn't hold up. It's game like Mischief Makers, Doom 64 and Symphony of the Night that have stood the test of time where most critics demonized them back in the 90's. There are reasons we have getting the likes of the Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy , Spyro Reignited Trilogy, the Resident Evil remakes and HD/portable versions with updated features.
@gaylordfocker79903 жыл бұрын
You must be a teenager who doesn't know anything about games. There are hundreds of games from that era that holds up just fine.
@cromoescobar3 жыл бұрын
Mario64, wwf no mercy, wave race, OTT, Tony hawk 1&2, fzero x, iss98, starfox64. To name a few that hold up.
@GundamWarrior13 жыл бұрын
@@gaylordfocker7990 Notice I said majority. Apparently you are not old enough to read. Sorry if you are blinded by your 90's nostalgia. As a NES & SNES person, sorry that generation holds up so much better to the PS1/N64/Saturn era.
@GundamWarrior13 жыл бұрын
@@cromoescobar Again Tony Hawk got remade (1 & 2) and to be honest I would play 3 or 4 over the PS1/N64 originals. Star Fox 64 was given a better treatment on the 3DS remake. Then there is comparing games F-Zero X vs. F-Zero GX? No comparison. Even when the Mario 3-D All Stars Collection came out, people wanted improvements to Mario 64 (much like the HD improvements Rare did with Banjo in Rare Replay). And again much like I said my comment MAJORITY. Sorry if you are blinded by your 90's nostalgia.
@asilver503 жыл бұрын
Joe says "honestly" a lot. Does that mean he's lying the rest of the time?
@kekeke89883 жыл бұрын
It means he's being brutally honest with you and gives zero fucks about your feelings. Fine by me.
@mastershake58173 жыл бұрын
It most certainly does
@SuperHns3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think so yes,
@mattjindrak3 жыл бұрын
@@kekeke8988 he's so brave with his opinions on gaming 😍😍😍😍
@SelfmadeIsland3 жыл бұрын
For me Street Skater on the PlayStation is really hard to get back to nowadays. Great memories with this game but some memories should always be, well.. just memories.
@gcforreal3 жыл бұрын
Tony hawk pro skater, ruined any other PS1 skating games that predates it ...man I thought thrasher skate and destroy , and top skater was good ..until I played thps...
@Apav3 жыл бұрын
As someone who was born in 97, and didnt start playing games until 2001, I remember going back to all these games people would say were the "best games ever" and always being confused as to why I wasnt haveing fun. I tried so hard to enjoy the first Crash but never had the patients to get past the first Island, even when I was in High School; same thing with Tomb Raider and 2D Sonic. I'm glad I'm not crazy. I think growing up with the PS2 and PS3 spoiled my enjoyment for a lot of old games. Although as a teenager I got a Genesis and og PlayStation, and fell in love with Rayman 2 and Gunstar Heroes!
@SonicMrSumo3 жыл бұрын
Well done for resisting the temptation to mention BLASTPROCESSING in the Sonic segment ;-)
@mxggo90463 жыл бұрын
Its so funny that you mention the original Sonic the Hedgehog...I just watch an indie Sonic the Hedgehog on the NES game..and i was very impressed. To me, its a testament to the art direction ang game play of the original Sonic game. I have a difficult time understanding why it is difficult to accept that, Sonic is Sega's answer to the original Super Mario Bros. I feel if you put yourself in that mindset, you may understand what the developers were aiming for. It is a game of speed, yes, but in reality, the goal is to explore, not just sprint to the end. Very much like in the Mario titles of the day. To get 100 coins/rings for an extra life. To keep them until the end and then to the bonus stage. To find as many hidden items as possible, while avoiding running out of time. Trying to avoid getting hit or falling into a chasm. Enjoying the beauty of each level/zone. The one main difference being that Sonic has you use momentum in a better way. The controls are not slippery. The controller of the day, was perfect. And just using one button was as well. Trying to think how to get from one point to another, while asking yourself, "what am i missing, or what am I doing wrong?" Why can't I get past this or that?" Sorry Gamesack, but Sonic the Hedgehog was and is a great title. Maybe...well, arguably, the best Sonic game overall.
@jbfarley3 жыл бұрын
Massive stretch
@mxggo90463 жыл бұрын
@@jbfarley I still remember the feeling of falling off the 3rd cliff at the beginning of Green Hill zone act 3. Finding the 3 hidden computer monitors after breaking through the brick wall in Marble zone, Hitting down on my controller to make sonic gain momentum as he hurls down one side of a wall, and then watch him roll soo fast up the oppesite side of the wall in spring yard zone. Kind of like a skater on a steep half pipe. Gaining as much momentum as I could. I'd sit there and not get tired of watching it. I could go on about the fear I felt in Laberynth zone, or the uniqueness of starlight zone. Even the music was overall very enjoyable. The difficulty not overwhelming like in other games...includinng other sonic titles. They made really great game.
@NathanTZ3 жыл бұрын
Whole heartedly agree with you on Double Dragon.
@akhandtripathipyz98883 жыл бұрын
Even though some sonic games were not good but sonic always try new things and I always respected sonic
@cheatsheet33253 жыл бұрын
Never respected that hedgehog. He's got an attitude.
@akhandtripathipyz98883 жыл бұрын
@@cheatsheet3325 I mean the games
@Bransfiiiield3 жыл бұрын
Crash wasn't the biggest selling game on PS1 at alllll. Maybe just in the States?
@terminallygray Жыл бұрын
The game that isn't as good as I remember has got to be Final Fantasy 7. There, I said it !!! I just don't have that kind of spare time anymore to dedicate for an entire playthrough. It's spread out over 2 disks and has that bleh, blocky low poly count that hindered the Playstation with 3D games. AND good luck trying to figure out some of those combos with the different mixtures of materia without some kind of guide (not gonna even go into getting a golden Chocobo). It's good to play in spurts but not an entire playthrough. The other thing... I have to defend Tomb Raider for a minute. The games graphics suck (of course they do compared to today's stuff) It was developed in 1996. Using DOS as an OS and really primitive 3D hardware (if you were lucky enough to have a dedicated 3D card in your PC at the time). Most people played it with an ordinary Playstation 8-button controller (no analogue sticks). It has "tank controls" - pretty much every 3D game used them. It was years before that part of action gaming changed to it's current layout & controls. I can understand that someone that's used to more sophisticated equipment and different gaming styles would pick up Tomb Raider 1 and say "How primitive". In 1996 it was a whole different story. BTW - they must have done something right because the Tomb Raider franchise is still going after this much time passed since the original game and it sequels.
@freddiejohnson61373 жыл бұрын
Most early games on the playstation could fall into this as many early games that used polygons have ages really poorly and the same can go for many games from that era.
@rars0n3 жыл бұрын
I disagree. Most Playstation games, even early ones, ran at good frame rates and polygon clipping/texture distortion issues are pretty minor, in the sense that they don't impact the actual gameplay. The bigger problem with early 32-bit games is lack of standardized controls for things like first-person and third-person games (no analog sticks usually meant poor camera angles and poor controls). Joe's example of Tomb Raider is spot on in this sense. I loved Tomb Raider, but playing it on the Saturn these days is extremely frustrating, not because of the graphics but the sluggish, difficult controls. Likewise, Mario 64's graphics aren't anything to write home about, but the game is still excellent, even if it does suffer somewhat from camera issues. I'd even argue the same thing about some 3DO games.
@leehaslam75353 жыл бұрын
I thought that, saying that anyone playing a game from the 80s today wont like it as much as people back then did is pretty obvious.
@rars0n3 жыл бұрын
@@leehaslam7535 That's not the point of the video. The point of the video is games that we played back back in the day that aren't as good as we remember them being. It's right in the title.
@leehaslam75353 жыл бұрын
@@rars0n you could say that about pretty much every game ever
@rars0n3 жыл бұрын
@@leehaslam7535 Not really. There are plenty of games that have held up well. Mario Kart for the SNES, for example, is every bit as fun as it was originally.
@Soynereh3 жыл бұрын
Crash1, still love it.
@dc65763 жыл бұрын
Yeah Crash was a great game and STILL IS. You are so off on this one. Huge thumbs down for getting this one so wrong...music is amazing as well as level design. Also Adventures of Bayou Billy was never a good game.
@Andrea-di2ew3 жыл бұрын
Still my favourite actually
@xm18083 жыл бұрын
@@dc6576 Lot of this can still be attributed to nostalgia. I grew up with trash games like Zool and Bubsy and when I see people complain about them I still think they're pretty good. I didnt grow up with the PS1 and I played the crash collection on PC. The first one really didnt hold up at all, where Spyro is still a blast, Crash aged poorely.
@mopeybloke3 жыл бұрын
@@xm1808 You can attribute anything to nostalgia, but that doesn't make it so. Experiencing the game later doesn't make your opinion any better either.
@Crazy_Gamer_OG3 жыл бұрын
I played the remaster & hated it. No nostalgia since I didn't have a ps1 growing up.
@benmalsky98343 жыл бұрын
I love Crash Bandicoot no matter what you say here!
@kenrickkahn2 жыл бұрын
Crash needs to be in Smash Bros.
@ih77292 жыл бұрын
Not everyone can have good taste, it's likely not entirely your fault.
@benmalsky98342 жыл бұрын
@@ih7729 Are you saying that being a Crash Bandicoot fan is not good taste???
@inztrumentallyill1673 Жыл бұрын
Plus the music is great !
@casualcadaver3 жыл бұрын
Sonic Adventure is still fun even 22 years later. I don't know why people rip on it.
@Dex99SS3 жыл бұрын
That explanation of TR1 movement was hilariously spot on! lololol
@CommodoreFan643 жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head with Double Dragon, it was fun for a few minutes in the arcade because the concept to many was new, but man going back to play it now NO THANK YOU!!!
@Harp00nX3 жыл бұрын
you have to get the rose tinted nostalgic glasses out when you play it lol the slowdown is unreal but the memories of that game and the music still rocks!
@CommodoreFan643 жыл бұрын
@@Harp00nX I'll give you the music is still really cool, but man it's so hard to go back to that sluggish game play. If I'm going to play any version Double Dragon, it's gonna be the NES port, which is what the arcade game should have been in the first place with better graphics.
@Harp00nX3 жыл бұрын
@@CommodoreFan64 Some games just get a free pass at times....I went to NERG a few years ago (gaming con) and two guys in their 40's had killed the end boss and were fighting to the death for the girl having a goog laugh about it..... now that is what i call memories from my childhood :D
@cirojr823 жыл бұрын
I can't agree more about Double Dragon. However, I do think Sonic 1 still is a great game, even with the "lack" of speeding levels.
@Pikaso19863 жыл бұрын
Sure about Crash being the best selling ps1 game? I always thought Gran Turismo was. Anyway, great episode as always. Quite a few early 3D games on there, which does not surprise me. A lot of 3D games from the mid 90ies didn't age very well. We were just fascinated back then by the technology in general. I would like to see an episode of early 3D games that still hold up today. That could be interesting. 😁
@MrVexedviper3 жыл бұрын
Yes Gran Turismo was no 1 with FF7 at 2, I think Crash 2 is somewhere in the top 10.
@ElVlogdeBob3 жыл бұрын
I agree that Crash 1 hasn't aged well but I disagree that we all liked it because of marketing. The game was very fun and exciting at the time. It still had its share of criticisms (like the saving system and the unfair difficulty) which were addressed in the sequel.
@kingboobs203 жыл бұрын
Saying someone only liked something because they were fooled by marketing is pretty damn condescending honestly. And before anyone calls me a butthurt fanboy I'm not even a Crash Bandicoot fan, I played a demo for the first game like... 25 years ago lol.
@ElVlogdeBob3 жыл бұрын
@@kingboobs20 Yup. It's implying that those gamers were stupid or something.
@superpaul793 жыл бұрын
You know what game gets better with age? Cyborg Hunter on the Sega Master System.
@urmie3 жыл бұрын
About to go to bed, one more refresh. Boom! Joe comes thru again! 👍🏻🔥
@bra1nc417d3 жыл бұрын
Been there lol.
@MrZarewna3 жыл бұрын
I am extremely hurt by what you said about Crash, BUT I'm going to let that slide :D I do not feel the way you do at all. I'm the exact opposite.
@akhandtripathipyz98883 жыл бұрын
Crash bandicoot is still good It still looks good controls good and has great levels
@mopeybloke3 жыл бұрын
I agree. The game aged. I am terrible at it though.
@mattorama3 жыл бұрын
The platforming segments in the first three Sonic games break up the "going fast" segments, which are, if we're honest, holding the right arrow and periodically jumping whilest taking in the BLAST PROCESSING.
@3dmarth3 жыл бұрын
Great video, but criticizing Sonic Adventure is like beating a dead horse at this point... People have been saying it's "worse than you remember" for 18 years now- that is, ever since the DX version came out. The game was loved and praised for maybe 4-5 years, and has been infamous ever since then. Personally, I love the game, but found the Dreamcast version a bit frustrating to play. Between the weird analogue stick, low frame rate, and lack of camera options, it just feels so janky, even compared to the GameCube version. The GCN one just feels a lot tighter, imo. Also, it lets you skip the redundant cutscenes, so that's a plus.
@solarflare90783 жыл бұрын
"criticizing Sonic Adventure is like beating a dead horse at this point..." They say that, but these people won't let anyone criticize Sonic Adventure without taking your head and telling you "the 2010s Sonic games are WORSE".
@3dmarth3 жыл бұрын
@@solarflare9078 Which people? Those who bash SA, or those who defend it? Colours, Generations, and Mania were praised to no end, at least in the 2010s themselves. I personally think the boostathon games are a little overrated (and not the best way to adapt Sonic into 3D), but they're still a lot of fun- and I think many Sonic Adventure fans would agree.
@solarflare90783 жыл бұрын
@@3dmarth The latter. And SA fans wouldn't really agree they're fun. None of what I've seen liked those games
@3dmarth3 жыл бұрын
@@solarflare9078 Maybe I'm just in the minority, then. I don't know. The people you've been talking to sound like a bunch of grumps. You sure you're not getting them mixed up with classic Sonic purists? ;)
@zero-theaveragegamer11593 жыл бұрын
Thank YOU for creating Game Sack!
@evan29023 жыл бұрын
*starts with Sonic Adventure* Phew boy...you're not wrong but you'll definitely be ruffling some feathers.
@cameron62623 жыл бұрын
I'm a sonic fan, people can have any opinions they want no matter how horribly wrong they are 😉
@hellogoodbye49063 жыл бұрын
Then goes onto slate OG sonic, saying Mario is better. Defo not a vid for sonic fans.
@SlothOfSpeed3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure. Sonic Adventure was one of the first games released for the Dreamcast. It was enjoyed partly for the graphics at the time so its obviously not relatively as good now. Then the game just wasn't that great. The reviews for the DX version on the Gamecube point out some of the many flaws. However, he did ruffle some feathers lumping Sonic Adventure 2 in with the first game. Well, my feathers were ruffled at least. Sonic Adventure 2 Battle (GC version) has a 73 metacritic score with an 85 user score. Sonic is tricky to bring into the 3D world. Sonic Team at least made a memorable 3D game with Sonic Adventure 2. It's remembered for being loved and hated. I really enjoyed searching for master emerald fragments with Knuckles and Rouge. Some people really hated those parts. I would argue Sonic Adventure 2 was a high point for the series because it was at least itself. While some hated it, at least some people loved it. In my own opinion, Sonic went downhill from there with Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog.
@evan29023 жыл бұрын
@@cameron6262 Twitter would have a stroke over that take
@evan29023 жыл бұрын
@Benjamin Owuye Jagun I agree. People act like that's the only thing they made. Personally, I love Ristar and Vectorman just as much as Sonic. *shrug*
@cubeflinger3 жыл бұрын
Still love sonic 1. Maybe it is nostalgia but it still plays well, slow or not.
@mattnova183 жыл бұрын
Yeah I still prefer 1 over 2 and 3.
@lordeilluminati3 жыл бұрын
I dont like 3 as much people like. I like the idea of connected stages, but the color palette is too striking for my liking
@elbitxo59453 жыл бұрын
I don't have nostalgia for any Sonic game, and still think the first game is one of the very best releases.
@lizardjr.78263 жыл бұрын
The line about "half the country wants you dead based on who is president" is the funniest thing I've ever heard you say.Well done.
@theblubus3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I felt the same way about ALL of the titles you shared! I remember being bored with them back then. A lot of these games' issues were fortunately fixed in their sequels which I play much more often. "A lot" but not all could be fixed or even had a sequel worth mentioning.
@TheBeird3 жыл бұрын
Fear Effect on the PS1. I still had fun going back to it but it was a bit of a bugger to play. I say that its worth revisiting old games the same way as revisiting old films, to appreciate what was accomplished at the time with what they had. In fact, it's worth playing old games if you want to experience a different vibe, which I'd put up there with gameplay on equal footing any day
@slib46463 жыл бұрын
thankfully, gamesack is never worse than I remeber
@radeonxtx3 жыл бұрын
For me I don't think the N64 has aged well, most games are clunky and rough looking and not as good as I fondly remember them.
@Oldskool4Life3 жыл бұрын
True, but i wasn't a huge fan when it was released either. I bought and played it a lot, but most games where okay but not great
@kekeke89883 жыл бұрын
The Saturn has aged even worse. 95% of the library consists of arcade ports that you're just better off emulating the original arcade version of.
@b0gster3 жыл бұрын
Terrible controls and platforming aside, I still prefer the old Tomb Raider games: they were much more atmospheric, and Lara's character was much cooler. I felt like a real archeologist/explorer while playing them. The new ones are just generic action garbage, not memorable at all, and Lara's has been transformed into a quite unlikable character.