Game Scoop! 606: Discussing IGN's Game of the Year Nominees

[@warmonger005]

Last of us part 2 is by far the most impactful game I have ever played...it's okay if the gamescoop crew did not like the narrative because it can be divisive but I thought it was one of the most impactful stories I have ever experienced in a video game. What's astounding is no body really talks about the gameplay because the moment to moment gameplay was amazing And Daemon with all due respect you shouldn't have spoiled the game in that way for people who did not play the game...it's far more complex than what you said

[@boardvision11]

100% agree with you on multiple fronts. It was an incredible experience. And yes it was totally lame to trivialize the story in the way it was done on this episode. It deservedly won Best Narrative at the Game Awards. Love Scoop but this was disappointing.

[@xMUHANNADx94]

The game play mechanics was exactly the same as the first game.

[@warmonger005]

@@xMUHANNADx94 Well they used the first game's blueprint for sure but the sequel is way more refined and complete...part 1 is one of my favorite games ever but it did have some lacking ( compared to the sequel) when it came to gameplay...trust me I played the part 1 again after finishing part 2 and you could see the difference straight away

[@mindful_nerd4676]

@@warmonger005 agreed I just started playing through part 1 again and the gameplay is so much slower and but works perfectly. Kinda awesome to get 3 different play style characters in that word with Joel, Ellie and Abby

[@murphykitty44]

it’s complete communist trash.

[@SonicBroham]

I guess the overwhelming repetitiveness I felt in Ghost of Tsushima marred what was otherwise a pretty solid experience for me, whereas the plot choices and gameplay improvements in TLOU2 blew me away in a way that didn't resonate with the Scoop crew. Glad to hear a range of opinions! Thanks for an excellent year, Omega Cops.

[@mindful_nerd4676]

I’m in your boat sir. I adore TLOU2. The pacing and varied play style/ environments couldn’t have been more perfect in my opinion. Gosh the big woods or the parking garage with the flares! Also I adored Ghost and thought it too was another brilliant game for a decent while and then just kinda... I dunno I boot it up run around but then shut it off but don’t get absorbed.

[@PeterAtkinson]

I adored both! Probably my 2nd and 3rd favourite PS4 games, number 1 is still God of War. Just played it again and has now moved to become my 3rd favourite game of all time.

[@carlosperez7646]

I was so turned off by how reductive, specifically Daemon was being about the story in TLOUP2. You can literally break down any story like this, add some eye rolls, cut away any nuance, dismiss multiple layers, and you can make it all look and sound bad. The first game can be reduced to just man and girl don’t get along, she has cure, they get along later, Man saves girl at the end. It’s just so reductive. And also almost every story nowadays has a clear cut hero and villian in it. We get dozens of them a year. This idea that you can’t possibly engage with a story that doesn’t have any heroes, probably deserves the biggest eye roll. But whatever, It’s fine, people have their opinions.

[@PeterAtkinson]

@@carlosperez7646 I completely agree Carlos! I don’t mind if Daemon doesn’t like it but like you mentioned, saying nothing happened story wise is just not true. All the problems people have with The Last of Us 2 is because they didn’t like the direction the game went in. It’s much more bleak than the first game and there’s no one to root for. That’s what I loved about the game, the juxtaposition between Ellie and Abby’s storylines. The gameplay is arguably the most tense I have ever felt in a video game to date!

[@boochtron]

TLOU 2 = bad

[@PeterAtkinson]

It’s funny how much people still dislike the story in Last of Us 2, I thought it was incredibly memorable. I do agree there isn’t as defined a story as the first game, but the character moments and story beats have stuck with me just as much as the first one did.

[@SLHodge]

I'm not going to disagree with your opinion, because that's what it is, but to me the only reason the story felt memorable was because it was amazingly acted. It was great actors in a beautiful setting acting out a bad script.

[@gamescoop]

That's a good way to put it.

[@nicmad1784]

It’s been quite a while since we had the full Scoop Crew back together, and it just feels awesome. #Assemble

[@PeterAtkinson]

Not wrong, it’s amazing how well they all work together with absolutely no competition. 👍

[@Kmaitland89]

I couldn't disagree with you guys more on the last of us 2. It hit me so hard and I loved it.

[@PeterAtkinson]

Me too, I absolutely loved it. I’ll probably never play it again because it is such an emotional slog and insanely tense. But I still think most of that game will stick with me forever. Spoilers.... my top 3 moments were the museum sequence, shoot out with Tommy on the bridge and crossing the sky bridge with Abby was so intense.

[@Kmaitland89]

@@PeterAtkinson those are almost exactlyy top scenes as well! The shootout with Tommy is so fucking well done and same with the skybridge with Abby. What a fucking game.

[@jericojsays]

MUCH AGREED. To say that nothing happens narratively in TLOU2 is just flat out wrong, whether you take that subjectively or not. The same arc that Ellie and Abby both go on is dynamic, and for their journies to run parallel to each other humanizes them and validates their respective lives and all that incorporates it (homes, loved ones, etc). Does this storytelling take away agency from the player and make them uncomfortable? Yes, which is where I'll admit my bias towards storytelling as opposed to full agency in videogames (that's a movie, not a videogame, I know). But to say that Ellie and Abby end the game where they started is a complete disregard to their respective (grueling and agonizing) development arcs. One of my favorite realizations is how Ellie mentioned her fear of ending up alone in the first TLOU and where she ends up at the end of TLOU2.

[@Settledown77]

I agree with Damon about TLOU 2. It is such a bleak boring trudge that goes on for too long being forced to do stuff you do not want to do, but are forced too; then stopping doing things you want to do. As Damon said, TLOU 2 is a HUGE disservice to the first game. I feel like the first game is a palette cleanser after the careless slog of the second game. I now have become no longer a naughty dog fan and it’s a huge stain on the first game.

[@Kmaitland89]

@@Settledown77 I just disagree with you completely. I don't think it's a disservice at all. I think it completely enhances it. I think the second game is such a masterpiece. I think the second game is story telling at its finest.

[@Donavadam]

"It's probably the best Sonic game!" lolol Daemon's look is amazing!!!

[@blakehenderson8828]

Daemon dropping truth bombs the week before Christmas.

[@dudemistah94]

Did he actually get heat after that dunkey video?

[@RobbyGood1]

TLOU2 is undoubtedly my game of the year. 😊👌

[@karlalexandregarcia7062]

This is probably the most unbiased take I’ve heard about TLOU2. Beyond the “oh I just didn’t like how the narrative went”, it’s how the narrative was told also. You were meant to feel things you couldn’t because of the game’s structure. Really good take! Still is a technical feat. Looking back at it now, wow, this game can pass of as PS5 even.

[@thefearmakerlive]

My disagreement with Sam, Daemon and Justin on TLOU 2, is yes, you can make something where the characters aren't always likable, because if you want to talk about realistic storytelling, people aren't always likable. And why would you only want to play stories about people making decisions you agree with? 1st that isn't the case, because we've all played games where we don't necessarily agree with every decision of the protagonist, even if we just think it's a dumb decision, 2nd, wouldn't that limit what games could narratively do, as the participation is about engagement, not just always wish fulfillment. And yes, Ellie did make bad decisions, but in the moment, to deal with her pain and trauma, those were the right decisions for her. And if you didn't notice, everyone who Ellie or Abby kill in the game attacks them or is looking to attack them , but 2 people, Joel and Nora, and we see the effects both of those situations have on them. Then you're totally missing the mirroring of the two stories as it's one person diving deeper into her trauma until she consciously makes a decision to stop and another person who thought a particular resolution would free her of her pain, but found out it didn't, and we see how she actually begins to heal. The game is never about revenge, it's about people dealing with trauma, and how decisions, both good and bad, have repercussions. (SPOILERS)In fact, to counter Daemon's point, Abby is never on a hunt to kill Ellie, when Abby and Ellie meet in that Theater, Abby doesn't know who's responsible for the death of her friends besides Tommy. A lot of the game is about Ellie's obsession with Abby, but it's also about Ellie's survivor's guilt, her complicated relationship with Joel, & maybe the fact that she's reckless because she wants to die. Abby leaves Ellie alive twice, as Abby has a traditional heroes journey arc after the 1st time you meet her. And Ellie at the end makes a conscious decision to not be a monster, to try and forgive, which were the last words she shared with someone she loved. I know Zelda may not have such layered storytelling like this, but to act like the characters don't progress throughout the story or that nothing happens, when you have getting to Seattle, exploring and finding out about the WLF vs Scars war, the Dina and Jesse situation, the reveal of the last few years of the relationship between Ellie and Joel, Finding Owen, Yara and Lev, The Rat King, escaping the island, and so much more, is kind of disingenuous, and not true. Maybe too serious and dower for the entertainment that you all like, and hey, like what you like as this is all subjective. But let's not act like the depiction of trauma and violence, and addiction and love in this game, beyond the experimental, for big budget games, narrative structure, isn't impressive. And by the end, how can you not like both protagonists, who are both on a path to healing and being better versions of themselves.

[@jamesmiley6146]

Spot on.

[@bradcuster]

I can appreciate your take on TLOU2, but I disagree. Just look at the state of our world this year. We’re in a pandemic that probably could have been contained months ago if people weren’t so selfish to think that they still needed to have gatherings and such. So, I think the game really captures the state of humanity currently even if that is sad to think about.

[@warshack634]

Last of us 2 game of the year hands down

[@hbkrvd3166]

Ghost of Tsushima is definitely my Game of the Year. Best open world game of this year. Sorry Cyberpunk 2077!

[@sergiolopez3422]

While I enjoy the other guests GS has had these last few episodes...I am so HAPPY to see the crew back together. Thanks for making my friday morning :)

[@mickael486]

I feel worse for all the hard working developers at CD Projekt Red.

[@_natedunn]

This. Including of all the reports of crunch from the top. 😕

[@TheFlash-rh2el]

This podcast should be about evaluating IGN’s review policy. The game will go down in history as a 9/10 on the consoles the game truly ran on

[@TheKindredblades]

I just noticed that Tina as the INSIDE collector in her background. So cool.

[@ChrisWTube]

I really like Last Of Us 2 and it’s main narrative and characters but I got alot more out of it’s world, mechanics and how good it looks. One small thing I really didn’t like was how listen mode upgrades are forced into skill trees, as I played without listen mode I felt like I was wasting upgrades just to get to the next skill (listen mode should’ve had it’s own upgrade path). I hope there is a 60fps PS5 patch in development, i’m kinda surprised there wasn’t one for the PS5’s launch.

[@GeeEmm81]

Cyberpunk is amazing! I feel for PS4 and Xbox One users and am very disappointed with how CD Projekt Red handled those launches. But playing on my Series X, yeah I’m blown away by how good this game is. I genuinely can’t wait to do another playthrough with a different V when the next gen update drops. Oh and the 1st person view was a stroke of genius!

[@TheKindredblades]

I'm about 25 hours in on Cyberpunk and I absolutly love it. Although the backlash for the ps4-xbox one version is deserve, it is trully a fantastic game. I sincerelly hope everyone that want to enjoy the game as the chance to do so soon because it is worth it.

[@shanewilt1]

I'm genuinely confused. You guys rave about Cyberpunk but the guys on the Giant Bomb podcast rip it to shreds (and not just the bugs). You guys are generally more positive than them about most topics but I dont know what to think

[@barrywmusic]

I think its good to hear differing opinions though, ultimately a game is going to mean something different to each person. And even more so with Cyberpunk, because the experience differs depending on the platform you play on (and I'm speaking as someone who has played it on Series X, Xbox one X and Stadia). This is way oversimplifying the game, but if it helps I'd say it kinda feels like a futuristic Fallout in a lot of ways.

[@shanewilt1]

@@barrywmusic for sure and ill give it a try when the next gen version is released. It's just weird to hear such differing opinions. But I tend to trust IGNs more for the most part

[@tokamaktheory5108]

Reducing the plot of TLOU2 to its story structure and then complaining about is something Ive seen everywhere all year. Do people not know the difference between story and plot?

[@tokamaktheory5108]

I mean you can do the same thing with the TLOU. Man goes to deliver cure to Fireflies, then changes his mind. The End.

[@shanewilt1]

Game of the year for me is a toss up between The Last of Us 2 and Ghost of Tsushima. Both are very impressive and my favorite games since Breath of the Wild

[@pclarkson85]

So surprised to hear such stealth issues, I’m 40 hours in and I’ve been playing a hack/stealth build the whole way.

[@nickjames4661]

Part of the lore of Assasin's Creed is that Far Cry is a videogame inside the Assassin's Creed universe. You can find copies of it lying around when you are outside of the animus wondering through the offices.

[@astropop1001]

Making my Friday a little better and a little less productive. Thanks game scoop

[@luciddre4m]

This podcast does not ever need to discuss stories in games. You guys never seem to like any of them lol. Spare us. Stick to what you're good at.

[@X82BIGBLUE82X]

Stories in games are just about always awful. Just because you like the game, doesn’t mean you have to pretend to like it’s shitty story.

[@wyliesalimeno9602]

Went to Spotify and was bummed no Gamescoop was uploaded. For the hell of it checked youtube and here it is. Nice.

[@mickael486]

If it wasn't on You Tube with video, I wouldn't listen.

[@Ichsukatanuka]

Rad intro and another good episode, scoop!

[@ce4779]

50:00 "Fire up Microsoft Flight simulator, get going then set it to auto-pilot. Then pull out your switch to catch up in animal crossing" hahaha 🤣 I loved this. It hit me on several levels. Its hilarious but deep down I wish I could effectively experience more than one game or thing at a time. you have officially convinced me to pull the trigger on getting Hades and I might get the Mario Bundle before its gone in March. Game Scoop with this group is the best...I mean "ONLY" Game podcast 😁

[@bradcuster]

Nice to see all four of you together again so to speak. Since next week is Christmas , maybe Daemon will break out the instruments and sing the intro next week. We need more of his musical talents on here. Oh and Ricardo needs to bring us some Christmas cheer.

[@USMCbrantley]

SCOOP SUNDAY Everyone Happy Holidays Great show great show once again. Thanks for all the work that goes in to the show during times like these. It helps so thanks again.

[@GamesCoffeeCollecting]

I did basically the same thing that Tina did. I really enjoyed AC:NH this year, but put it down a few months ago and now am apprehensive to pick it back up again

[@vitodeturo5620]

Best show around!!

[@TrevTink15]

:) really needed this today. Thanks for always shining light on our Friday’s! Omega cops best police force !

[@michaelpolston5240]

My tastes in 2020 aligned really closely with a lot of people's, Ghost of Tsushima was great, TLOU2 was great, Hades was great, Animal Crossing was great...but then we get to Cyberpunk and people are praising he story and characters and voice acting and how fun the game is in spite of being a mess. I really don't understand what people see in it because all controversy aside, I think the game is average at best and nowhere near 3/4 amazing, as Justin said. Sometimes I feel like maybe I'm playing a completely different game from the one that people are praising.

[@linusfootballtips2838]

i thought the TLOU2 was good, not great.

[@remymartin15]

Why didn’t you guys talked about the annoying puzzle that were the locked doors. Having to find all the different ways they designed to get into those buildings was frustrating as hell. Also in Valhalla the story isn’t about being an assassin. Eivor has some issues with the Assassins and their goal and questions everything.

[@n3vascared501]

Thank you for the critique of last of us 2 and the comments about modern television having no one to root for. I agree 100%.

[@ivanmcgann1989]

Probably would put Miles Morales behind Demon Souls and Astro's playroom just on the PS5. Yakuza 7 was also a noticeable omission. Cyberpunk ahead of so many other games this year is a slap in the face tbh. You guys gave it a 9 so you tied your own hands I guess 😕

[@PeterAtkinson]

I agree about Miles Morales, it was super fun but I didn’t enjoy it as much as the first. Even the first I thought was a little overrated, I think because they absolutely nailed web swinging that people love it so much. Astro’s Playroom is my pick on the PS5 so far, legitimately as good as any 3D Mario, except for the length of course. Haven’t played Demon’s Souls yet but plan to.

[@d818581dd]

How is the sentiment LOU2 that everyone is awful? Abby forms a close bond with Lev that lasts right through to the end of the game. Ellie had the chance to live "happily ever after" with Dina, but chose not to.

[@Michael_Ian_Blackface]

How is Ori & The Will of the Wisps not even in the conversation for GOTY? Maybe there was only room for 1 Indie amongst the giant AAA games and Hades took the spot, but that feels wrong.

[@mickael486]

Tina's back! 🥳

[@Project-Aries]

Gamescoop Parady: "Oh yeah Animal crossing is great, it's like on Cyberpunk when..." "I loved Ghost of Tsushima, Cyberpunk also has much Samurai influence.." "TLOU2 was incredible despite fans being divided it is no doubt a great game, you know on Cyberpunk when Johnny Silverhand..." It pretty much goes on like this the entirety of the episode. Not complaining, it's just funny, like that one time in Cyberpunk when...🤣 Merry Christmas Gamescoop

[@laurenwoodhouse2344]

For TLOU2, once Abby did what she did (no spoilers) I simply could’ve never seen her side, or EVER liked her - but I think that’s just my impressive ability to hold a grudge :)

[@nicopicorico]

TLOU2 hands down best game of the generation. Absolute masterpiece.

[@ChrisWTube]

35:33 My opinions on what was said here. There are a few games in the AC series that should have been their own thing. Black Flag is great, but would’ve been better if it had nothing to do with AC and I hope Skull & Bones turns out to be more than just ship gameplay. I also feel that Odyssey and Valhalla shouldn’t have been AC games or be less like a fantasy RPG to be an AC game, they need to commit one way or the other. I’d love to see AC return to being like 1,Brotherhood or Syndicate.

[@nvc.]

Death Stranding is a million times better than cyberpunk, it was complete and bug free out of the gate... Its just that some people enjoyed playing it, some people didnt.. Nothing to do with bugs, bad gameplay or crashing...

[@omega_sauce]

Played about 12 hours of AC Valhalla, pre-ordered so started on release day - haven't seen a single bug. Guess I was lucky.

[@SkeeLoGreene]

Games of the Year: Hades The Last of Us 2

[@dreadplaysstill2158]

I'm glad they're talking positively about cyberpunk, all this negativity is painful but don't get me wrong I 100% understand the outrage but for the people who can play it im happy they can because wow cyberpunk is unreal.

[@mickael486]

I can't believe Sony is giving out refunds. Does the game disappear from your hard drive after or is it locked 🔒 from playing on your account? Or is it just a free game at that point?

[@barrywmusic]

Its def not a free game if you get refunded, pretty sure it gets removed from your hard drive

[@X82BIGBLUE82X]

Playing Cyberpunk on Series x and not having many issues since the latest patch... games amazing!

[@cocteaumusic]

I didn’t have the same impression from Cyberpunk. I didn’t like the skill trees, I didn’t like the loot system, the story was much less engaging than I thought, etc. The world building definitely is the highlight for me but even still there are so many distractions with bugs and duplicate npcs that it marred an otherwise beautiful design. There’s just too much janky mechanics and distractions that it really wasn’t enjoyable.

[@Scar04c]

What happened to 20-20 Questions?

[@johnnyathey3824]

There are STOOGES songs in Cyberpunk?! Alright, I might actually have to check it out.

[@bradcuster]

I’m glad you guys are enjoying Cyberpunk, but as a guy still on my PS4 Pro, I’m glad Sony pulled it and don’t think a game should get the praise it is when it launched how it did and can’t be enjoyed by 2 of the markets it was advertised to be available on. Witcher 3 is in my top 5 games of all time so I’m just disappointed by this title and not sure I’ll even ever play it at this point.

[@jacobpro_]

I’m not the only one that thinks Tina is super pretty, right?

[@PeterAtkinson]

Not wrong!

[@YKM]

That opening music is NASTY. 🤘🏻

[@ReapsVsTheWorld1]

Tina!

[@PeterAtkinson]

Love me some Amini! 👍

[@nvc.]

Ghost of Tsushima is incredible. Its the best of this year, and one of the best of the generation.

[@alextownley9388]

HA. It’s a great game, but that’s grossly hyperbolic.

[@johnny05100]

Would love to see this crew play back 4 blood!

[@Mocha_the_Corgi]

oh man that 20 questions made me laugh

[@grayfox00700]

Awesome, Tina sounded like a Transformer for a bit!

[@viktormustapic]

Tina went full cyberpunk with the audio at the beginning.

[@kodestroyer9957]

Demon's Souls?

[@aaronjones6798]

Final Fantasy 7 remake got an 8 from IGN, DOOM Eternal got a 9 from IGN, FF7R is considered for GOTY, DOOM Eternal is not. Pretty sure making you think Ellie is a horrible person is the intention in LoU2 - I definitely thought that playing as Abby.

[@joshjohnson4092]

I love this crew

[@shavedraven]

The directional wind in Ghost of Tsushima to me is the same as a dotted line on a mini map. Relentless gusts of cartoonish wind are actually more obtrusive I find.

[@ambrosiajam8008]

Sonic Spinball IS the best sonic game. In fact, it’s one of the only good ones!!!

[@barrywmusic]

I think pretty much all GOTY nominations have got issues in form or another, and I've played all of them (except Hades, which tbf I've not heard one person have a bad thing to say about it). I'm loving Cyberpunk (on the Series X), and I enjoyed GoT and TLOU2, but Miles Morales... darn that game is good

[@brites4]

i never go guns blazing, you can use hacks to kill or stop enemies. I feel like a hacker god.

[@SkeeLoGreene]

I'm loving the hacking too, but I can't seem to find any new Quickhacks in the world. I'm stuck w/ the same ones

[@brites4]

@@SkeeLoGreene i got 5 legendaries just doing quests. Don't know if they dropped from enemies or boxes they were just there.

[@Donavadam]

Love Game Scoop!

[@HardcoreGamer101508]

Like Daemon, I couldn't care less about Animal Crossing, Pokémon Go, and all those other social aimless games. My favorite game of the year is Hades although I'm loving Cyberpunk 2077 so far and Ori and the Will of the Wisps was a lot of fun too.

[@crowthebest]

Hey Daemon don't think we forgot about 2020 questions from 2 weeks ago, what happened?

[@LJlax20]

The best sonic game 😂😂

[@PeterAtkinson]

Hilarious moment. Game Scoop is arguably my favourite hour of entertainment each week.

[@trekbsg]

Brightens my day every time I get to see Tina's smiling face.😊

[@tranwc]

Saying cyberjunk 2020 is great on PC is like saying a bmw z4 is awesome... if you have one. What’s the pie chart look like of ps5/xbox series x vs ps4(and ps4 pro) and xbox one (all varieties). Add the 💩s buying up “current gen” systems then reselling them at outrageous prices?! I just bought a switch lite last night and I love it. F-cdpr. I’m glad their stock value fell through the basement. They took customers money and have them a poop sandwich with glass and rat poison.

[@tranwc]

CD Projekt Red's stock price has plummeted by 22 percent, as Cyberpunk 2077's underwhelming launch and quality issues continue to harm the Polish developer's reputation. During that period, the decline has resulted in a grim milestone: a loss of nearly $1.8 billion. To make matters worse, this dramatic drop occurred in a single day, no doubt alerting CD Projekt Red that the worst may yet be in store as Cyberpunk 2077 continues to struggle. 🤣🤣🤣

[@RH1812]

My game of the year is Sekiro cos I played it to re-death this year

[@natashacavata2415]

I'm a filthy animal that likes sonic o/ heya, thanks for the merry christmas ! (lol)

[@face76]

Sorry but it’s more then 1/4 broken. CP2077 is 3/4 broken. Everything they said has happened in other games. Getting on roofs, finding different entrances in to bars or locations has been there. Assassins Creed isn’t about stealth. It’s like thinking all Templars are riding horses, with the Red Cross, looking for the grail, and etc. Also Origins, Odyssey, Valhalla are prequels. The whole Assassin part started in Origns, Odyssey was about the Isu, Valhalla leads into the first AC. People take Assassins Creed a little to literally. The AC are about letting us be free, while theTemplars believe in control.

[@mickael486]

Feeling guilty about NOT playing a game?? I wish. @22:10

[@mjhout]

Thanks for not just bashing cyberpunk like everyone else is right now; so many parrots

[@apimb1396]

Deep Rock Galactic an Undermine

[@Dude-gq9qc]

Game of the year is Ghost of Tsushima.

[@jamesmiley6146]

Wow a comment section full of people praising TLOU2. I'm genuinely surprised.

[@mickael486]

@37:28 YES! EXACTLY, Sam & Daemon, Tina, and Justin!! THIS was the problem with The Last of Us part II. Not because of Joel.

[@MichaelStrathmore]

The Last of Us Part II is, hands down, one of the best games ever made in my opinion. It is a masterpiece in almost every way. I appreciate the different points of view here, but rarely have I been so stunned with such poor assessments from a panel. It is a disservice to the game that it cannot be better represented on this episode from a panel that includes someone who actually shares the opinion that it is a pinnacle of storytelling. I mean, Damon... bless your heart, but "nothing happens in the story"? Would you levy the same the criticism for The Mandalorian, the plot of which literally is a Mandalorian needs to take a creature to a Jedi? When movies inevitably fade into less and less relevant vehicles for storytelling, and is ultimately replaced by video games in terms of storytelling quality, it will be because games like TLOUP2 paved the way for the medium to evolve into something more important than it has traditionally been.

[@McdonaldeS1986]

GOTY is last of us 2 for me! Unpopular opinion but people are crazy, ghost of tsushima is runner up so fuckin good aswell and cyberpunk is a joke, even pc players praising the game angers me because they litterly stole money from consumers! Fuck em

[@canuckcityvan6043]

Dameon came to tell the truth on Cyber punk

[@JonnyRoboto]

Video games woooo

[@CompilerTube]

SCOOP!

[@ianANDtheLEYlines]

Lol yes! #notmyJoannaDark

[@johnansell5401]

If you think TLOU was better than ghost of Tsushima you need to take your head for a wobble

[@kishansharma5119]

It is tho

[@johnansell5401]

@@kishansharma5119 depends if you like samurai swords or having a little cry about your feelings

[@kishansharma5119]

@@johnansell5401 well i respect your opinion but tlou is better to me

[@otogigamer]

She went full serial killer in last of us 2

[@SonicBroham]

I think they just hit people differently. Ghost had such a beautiful world and I enjoyed it (the duels especially), but I couldn't believe how draining the lack of variety in mission structure was. "Defeat the mongols" was driven into my head so often it felt like I was playing a very pretty 360 era game. I cannot think of a less interesting protagonist than Jin Sakai, either. They are both good games that I think personal preference influenced a lot. I can't bring myself to finish every quest line in ghost and I want an update so I can play TLOU2 a fourth time.

[@boardvision11]

🍔🍟🥤🤡💄😷

[@superbadisfunny]

Id like to play TLOU2 but without the cut scenes. Gameplay is king but story is worthless.

[@d818581dd]

And what happens in LOU1 then? its a glorified companion mission, with both Joel and Ellie living. After all you go through in part 1, there is no vaccine created and Ellie lives. So basically nothing happens there too. When u simplify the story to that degree, yeah it sounds bad, but that's not entirely fair. You guys sound like the internet trolls hating the game for silly reasons ("agenda puShInG!!1). That's disappointing. You absolutely can dislike the game all you want, but selectively using that critique, when it can just as easily be applied to the first game, and heck, so many other great games out there, makes me just want to unsubscribe from this channel.

[@stephenwilliams781]

I can understand why children love animal crossing, but adults? It’s so boring.

[@mk-qm3qk]

Finally a main stream gaming podcast admitting last of us twos storyline was utter garbage