The Best Video Game Prequels - Game Scoop! 483

[@EagleEye6486]

Time Stamps 00:05 Start 00:16 Episode Overview 00:24 Listener Feedback - The Best Video Game Prequels 14:38 Nintendo Switch Online Service 24:55 Listener Feedback - Video Game Preservation 35:33 Listener Feedback - Quick Time Events 41:28 Listener Feedback - Game Scoops First Games Online 44:51 Listener Feedback - Game Scoop Pitches Their Perfect Game 50:20 May 1999 EGM 58:35 Video Game 20 Questions 1:10:26 Outro

[@dheezknutz]

EagleEye for the win!

[@dieseIboy]

You da man cool guy!

[@bashful_michael]

This was an awesome show! Casey really fits well with you guys. I agree with Justin's take on Nintendo's Online Service, it is very underwhelming. You would think after all this time they would lay out a clear plan and actually sell you on the service. It's disappointing to see them still struggle when it comes to online and hopefully they reveal soon how you will be able to buy their classic games on Switch.

[@matthewsan78]

Over an hour of Scoops!!

[@jeffnewcomb4427]

Cloud saves are not free for Playstation. You need PS Plus.

[@ghasfarost]

It seems that whatever Nintendo Online service has to be directly the same as other companies even when people dont think they compete between them.

[@shinycaseyd]

I completely forgot to mention this - cloud saves cost money, yes, but you can back up saves on a thumb drive on PS4. You can’t do this with the Switch. To back up saves at all you HAVE to pay for the service.

[@shinycaseyd]

If there was a free alternative to back up saves / access your account, I’d be totally happy with the $20 a year subscription. Right now, if you lose your Switch, your account is gone too... and all the games you bought with it. Which sucks. Hoping they’ll at least offer account recovery for free even without the subscription.

[@shayz3015]

Casey, I enjoy your presence on this podcast. You provide great input and have an awesome personality. Where's the petition I can sign to get you seen more on IGN? (I realize this has nothing to do with this thread but just wanted to share. Keep up the fantastic work!)

[@shinycaseyd]

Hey Shay! Thanks so much, I really appreciate it! :D Just keep liking the things I appear in and leaving comments like this! You can follow me on Twitter @ShinyCaseyD to keep up with the stuff I do ~

[@cdtpearson]

Daemon! Casey needs to be the permanent 4th seat. Her demeanor and unique gamer preferences compliment well with the everyone else's tastes (retro, mobile and arcade games). This episode didn't have the random and overly loud "special" guest from a different podcast. This episode had Casey and she was a great fit as always

[@DaBakk88]

Bioshock Infinite is a good prequel. It takes place in 1912 and bioshock 1 and 2 takes place in the 1960's.

[@fabienzaca]

So they are connected cause I played them all but I'm not sure

[@EvSolo]

fabienzaca yes the end explains the lighthouses and the DLC goes back to Rapture

[@shinycaseyd]

Completely forgot about that one!! I really liked that game.

[@fabienzaca]

ohhhh I still need to play DLC thanks

[@sthxdnn1]

***Spoilers*** Maybe I’m just wrong, but I wouldn’t consider it a prequel because it is an alternate timeline; it’s not really a prequel just because the year is before. The continuity of them are not the same.

[@ecnerwal1234]

Justin, my daughter is 9 and loves the original Ghostbusters and has loved since she was like 6, so I think you shouldn't have any problem getting your daughter into it. Another one of her favorites is Coneheads... Maybe she just like Dan Aykroyd.

[@DJStarbust]

"They bleeped it out just like we will." - Deamon Hatfield lmao

[@KalamityKode]

Justin is the only Cop that consistently makes me laugh. That lean-in to the mic to admit your offense to Sonichood.. hilarious.

[@ecnerwal1234]

Me and friend played Duke Nukem 3D all the time. We used a dial up modem to connect to his cousin's computer who also had it and we would play for hours. This would've been like in 96/97.

[@7thsaga662]

The Grand Theft Auto series are in fact tied together, Justin.

[@EvSolo]

Another QTE game was Road Avenger on Sega CD. I remember really enjoying it, not sure if it holds up

[@erickorduno3569]

I think the best explanation for Mario’s Universe is in Super Mario Galaxy. In it, Rosalina explains that things die and become stardust, then there are new beginnings from that stardust. Furthering a cycle, as Casey suggested. So every Mario game ( maybe even including the sports ones and kart) may be apart of the same timeline, but they’re apart of a universe that resets and creates a brand new scenario. Some that include throwing blue shells at Rose Gold Peach, others where the setting takes place in a theater where the clouds have been lowered on a harness, and some that include possessing (or “cap-turing” whatever) objects and animals.

[@jdonvance]

First Online game? I thought about Planetside (1) and The Matrix Online, but I'm pretty sure Magic: Online was my first. On that first week, (just like online games today), the servers kept crashing, so I ended up typing in the random string of numbers and letters they issued me for my initial password so many times, it got burned into my brain. Now I use it for certain websites as a near-unbreakable password.

[@charliemilroy6497]

Paying respects is not a quick time event, it's a context sensitive button press

[@TheAndrewbyte]

My perfect game....turn based strategy game featuring He-Man and The Masters of The Universe. You play as He-Man, but the real draw is building your team over the course of the game with all the crazy characters and their special abilities.

[@gamescoop]

Would play!

[@acesb24]

Um... Did everyone clearly hear "Sega is f***ed!" With no bleep

[@9shot]

it is a little funny Daemon mentions that they bleeped it when it didn't happen

[@kevinator4]

My ideal game: I want an Alien: Isolation-style Jurassic Park game, where you're a JP worker left on the island right after the events of the first movie (but done well and not completely disappointingly like the Telltale game). The ultimate goal obviously being to survive and to get the hell off the island for good! By being in the style of Alien: Isolation, I mean first person hyper realism where you are hopelessly out matched and virtually unarmed. Maybe you can find the security shed and a rack of SPAS-12s at some point and have a little payback fun, but really it's free-roam on Isla Nublar with all of the worst dino nightmares from JP roaming freely. The whole island would be open world, and T-Rex, Dilophosaurus, the remaining Velociraptors (we'll pretend there are more they didn't show in the movie) herds of herbivores, and other new dino threats are all persistently roaming the island. You can hear T-Rex approaching like in the movies, see the water rippling, see the trees shaking and birds flying away and know that you need to run and hide, or stand perfectly still to avoid its vision-based movement. There could be some forced set pieces, but a lot of it is up to the player to encounter the dinosaurs as they explore. You COULD boot up the game and walk right into the kitchen of the visitors' center and see if that raptor escaped the freezer room, or you could go in a completely different direction and never see that at all. A Jurassic Park game with the level of detail and care taken to preserve the aesthetic that Alien: Isolation had, and that isn't a run and gun Turok with the JP brand slapped on it. One that is instead terrifying but also gives the sense of awe and adventure the original Jurassic Park gave us :)

[@zacharyzito4464]

Sounds good to me too

[@jdonvance]

The torture scene in Metal Gear Solid is not nonsense. It's intended to torture the PLAYER. Hideo is nothing if not meta.

[@charliemilroy6497]

Yakuza 0 is one of the best prequels ever, and kicked off the Yakuza revival in the West

[@minimaldrobe8263]

I never played them before this gen, but I played Zero last year and have started playing Kiwami. I think Zero works so well because now I feel like I understand the significance of pretty much all the major characters (in contrast the Star Wars prequels, while hilarious for memes, were just confusing). There's a moment early on where one of the characters (Shinji I think) says about Kiryu: "there's no point. He never changes his mind", which made me laugh so much given the whole plot of Zero. It also works well because it doesn't take itself seriously in the slightest, which is necessary when you have such a ridiculously big story. Gamers getting mad about "canon" (not even the correct use of the term) is one of my pet hates.

[@brightboy18]

Guess I'll finally give this series a try. I heard it's a good game to play if you like the Shenmue games and of course I mean that loosely not a one to one copy

[@charliemilroy6497]

minimaldrobe.com I only started on this gen too, although I almost convinced myself to get a PS3 for Yakuza 3. I started with 6, which is a bit of a strange way to do it. It's clear how far the games have come over the years. 0 is really well put together and is awesome especially as it lets you play as Majima. Kiwami is decent, but some of the sub stories are pretty bad and hardly had any effort put into them, or were just the first try. Yakuza has become my favourite franchise ever, and I love the balance of melodrama and humour. I can't wait to hear more about shin Yakuza

[@HardcoreGamer101508]

I feel like the story gets a little too formulaic at times. There’s always a shoved-in fight at the end of every sequence.

[@charliemilroy6497]

Movie Muscle fighting is the main mechanic of the game. In the main story it's never really grating. It's nice when games remember that they are videogames and don't neglect giving some gameplay to just be realistic. The sub stories often feel like a fight is just shoe horned in, but it makes me laugh how ridiculous it is. Yakuza is definitely a bit of an acquired taste, but I love it.

[@Codemarla]

Final Fantasy 8 is my favourite FF game. I'd love a HD remake of that.

[@dheezknutz]

I had an idea for a game. Actually, it would just be a mode in GTA V online. 1 person is the terminator, or the computer is the terminator. Just trying to keep away, eventually be able to destroy the terminator. maybe it's just survive long enough, whatever. Could be interesting.

[@RichardHannay]

Justin hits the nail in the head with videogame preservation...

[@leviwyatt09]

It seems like there's a trend in video games to make a game, have a sequel in the next game, and then do a prequel for the third game.

[@anthonythacker3178]

So is Ezlo from the Minish Cap related to Cappy from Super Mario Odyssey

[@killamilla702]

14:06 Sam said " Yea Me too" quick lol

[@SturmbladeZ97]

SCOOOOP! Great episode/podcast this week

[@Jim_Thomas_Draper]

GTA Vice City and San Andreas TOTALLY count as prequels to GTA III! Characters cross over between all 3 games. Although I don't have the sales figures to hand, I presume they both sold better than GTA III. GTA IV was essentially a reboot (comic book style), and IV and V are loosely connected to one another, but were released in chronological order so they don't count.

[@shejmus]

Somebody let Justin know that a mmo style, lobby based, co-op tower defense game already sorta exists: Fortnite's "Save the World" mode.

[@doublel_theyorkshireman4041]

metal gear solid 3, a great prequel.

[@harrycrabbe327]

When you show up to camp goose early and there are no comments

[@EvSolo]

Harry Crabbe I always try to avoid the comments before 20 questions so it doesn't get spoiled lol

[@TheRealDevtek]

There is an online tower defence game with multiple classes that you might want to check out called Sanctum + it's sequel.

[@ZachyStugotz]

That EGM issue was awesome. RIP Factor 5

[@MasterCleife]

How did it take so long to get to Metal Gear Solid 3?

[@Darkjediiii]

Sam, the Game from Ender's Game would be brilliant. I remember reading that book for the first time at 14 and wishing a game like that existed. There's such a sense of wonder with that segment of the book

[@LeviXIII]

Sam, that Street Fighter death cry for God of War had me laughing so hard. Scoop joke of the week lol.

[@mikeb6410]

Delta Force Land Warrior and Tom Clancy's Rogue Spear was my first online experience ... .. I was about 11 years old. Then... Final Fantasy 11 a few years later... in which I played for about 5 years..every day.. made high school hell to finish lol.

[@AndreSantos-xy6kc]

can you guys give me the scoop on were to play shadow of the beast II on PC, I played it on the Amiga back in the days... I'm thinking Psygosis!

[@Blood_Rapture]

I freakin love the songs that play after the audio podcast each week theres gotta be a way to put them in here.

[@gamescoop]

I'd love to, but KZbin would flag the video for licensing issues.

[@Blood_Rapture]

Are those songs by Damon because it sounds like his voice and he mentioned he has a band at some point

[@Blood_Rapture]

nevermind i found it yeah daemon hatfield music.. so sick.

[@killamilla702]

14:06 Sam said " Me Too " Quick lol I don't blame him

[@Real_Sgt_Tom]

I picked up a copy of King's Field from a yard sale just a few months ago because I realized it was a From Software game from the PS2 era...nice!

[@TheAndinator92]

What song plays at 41:20 ?

[@7thsaga662]

Sam, the arcade version of Donkey Kong DOES exist but it's a hidden game in DK64. The Factory level is there.

[@danielrogers1985]

Cant believe they didn't get the twenty questions it was so easy.

[@joshcb]

"They bleep it out, just like we did."

[@Brett452]

Great take on Nintendo. Really disappointed to hear about the lack of VC, or whatever they are deciding to brand it as now. You guys hit the nail on the head in that, their first year goodwill is done. They need to start cleaning up the eShop, make the UI cleaner, etc.

[@tomasxfranco]

Daemon how does it feel to work with Bayonetta?

[@gosthunter39]

That GOD Bolder quick time even got to me too, On both play through.

[@Poppedcollar]

Xenosaga is sort of a prequel to Xenogears...just not legally speaking due to Squaresoft owning the rights for Gears.

[@_Polyfez]

My first online game is RuneScape on dial up at a friend's house.

[@effincasuals8877]

Prey on 360 was my first online game i played ALOT of,but my first online game was counter strike on pc

[@VGJunky]

Dang that's the first time I absolutely knew what game it was based on the questions asked and then panel couldn't get it. The Sony published in Japan only was a massive hint

[@MightyRyan1337]

Also the misadventures of tron bonne is a prequel to Mega Man Legends :)

[@marctut]

The NES Classic doesn't fix what I want most, which is Zelda 1, Zelda 2, and SMB3 on my portable system that I currently carry. I have bought those games on every Nintendo system and I want to buy them again on Switch!

[@wardromon]

I just started the video, but wanted to say hearing somone say they enjoyed Drakengard 3 just warms my heart for some reason.

[@surfin392]

For me, if I know quick time events are gonna happen I'm happy and will play along, but If it comes out of no where I NO LIKEY....For a minute. Shenmue was my first foray into QTEs. For half of the game I constantly F-ed up the button prompts. Side note. I purposefully don't hit the QTE on the modern Tomb raider games to see the time spent on creating Lara's deaths.

[@Arandyfatdude]

I was waiting for the virtual console to come to Switch before buying the console. Don't think I'll bother now. You don't go to Nintendo for cutting edge graphics etc. You go for their good library of games. Why would you eliminate that library or at least hold it back?

[@SotNist]

I like QTE's in the original God of War games, or recently, Knack 2. I don't like them when they're just no-warning, short-window game over sneak attacks, and it does require some cohesion and taste to work. One cool thing about Knack 2 is that all the buttons you press initiate scripted actions which parallel the same button->action type during actual gameplay. I like that because it combines the design principles of "the player should be doing the cool things" but still makes it seem intuitive, and gameplay oriented.

[@Xarmulous]

Who the hell is Mario's mother? And who did she sleep with to give birth to Luigi, Wario, and Waluigi?

[@minimaldrobe8263]

Donkey Kong. That's right, from Donkey Kong onwards, the Mario series is about the Oedipus complex (shout out to Sophocles, a Scoop Gem!)

[@ThoniusB]

Wario is not their brother!!!! And Waluigi is not even related to Waluigi. They are just weirdoes

[@gamescoop]

"And Waluigi is not even related to Waluigi."

[@ThoniusB]

Game Scoop! WHOOPS!! Wario and Waluigi are not related. I'm a great editor. Sam should hire me.

[@SusuperHands]

Over Horizon is so fun! I love how you get to shoot both left and right. The music is amazing, but unfortunately goes quite once you start shooting.

[@ecnerwal1234]

No love for Borderlands the Pre-Sequal?

[@mijic207]

The worst quick time event from Resident Evil 4 would have to be when you are being chased the boulders. The amount of times I got crushed by then frustrating!

[@chrishahn2937]

55:18 missed a meow! Haha Daemon was so confident it would be edited Edit: lmao and 10 seconds later

[@BullyHunter-sj3hm]

I thought KOTOR was a prequel to SW:TOR in that game universe of star wars (separate from official Canon Movies)?

[@Awesome_Force]

I think my first online game was Shadow Ops or something like that on the original xbox.

[@Evenmoresteven]

The price of Nintendo's online service isn't the problem. Honestly I think all of this virtual console stuff could have been alleviated if they just announced that more than NES games would be coming to their Netflix style online service. I would be willing to pay more than $20 a year if I knew that the classic games service would include SNES and N64 games. NES games alone just don't bring that much excitement.

[@Pedro_The_Neco]

You didn't bleep it! XD It was weird seeing Damon saying the F word I don't know why. :P

[@Aloyhero]

Life is Strange Before the Storm was the last prequel i played,graphically it looked better and to finally see who Rachel Amber was. who was mentioned but was never seen in the original game.

[@TheCurrykiev]

First online game.....probably Kingpin on pc. A brilliant FPS for a 16yo. Anyone else remember it? Ultima Online/unreal tournament were the games I LOVED though.

[@effincasuals8877]

I myself have always loved QTE,seemed to just keep u involved in the game

[@BiggTonyStyle]

I remember needing to have my dad rent lethal enforcers for me on genesis because I was too young to be able to rent the light gun

[@EvSolo]

BiggTonyStyle My older brother always made me use the pink gun, he never let me use the blue one

[@GoldeneyeDoubleO7]

SCOOP going up! On a Wednesday, got the crew talking games on a Wednesday

[@VGJunky]

Best video game prequels? Metal Gear Solid 3?

[@effincasuals8877]

Someone forgot the bleeps😂😂🤣

[@ruthlesssavagehatred6428]

Put this podcast on Spotify please :)

[@acquinn86]

My first online game was in late 1998 with Starcraft: Brood War. I got hooked in August 1999 with Counter-Strike. My first online console experience was Quake 3 Arena on Dreamcast using the Broadband Adapter! I remember PC gamers hacking into our servers and destroying us with their mouse & keyboard lol.

[@john24206]

They are getting rid of the brand of virtual console so that they can instead have different classic selections for each retro field. I.E classic 64 classic GameCube and so on. Obviously this is speculation but I feel that we will be able to buy plenty of classics just not under one virtual console brand, therefore solving the issue of having to give copies of games ppl have paid for on virtual console recently

[@cptclown2110]

The question about your earliest online game, Sam seemed soooooo bummed he didn't have an earlier online gaming experience than halo 3 lol it's ok Sam, your still the God of gaming knowledge

[@RichardHannay]

Street Fighter Alpha is a prequel to Street Fighter 1 and 2...

[@7thsaga662]

Richard Hannay I know its called "Alpha" and "zero" and that should be obvious but I really think Alpha is after 1 but yes, definitely before 2. But much like Zelda lore, we shouldn't care

[@brightboy18]

I hate that the company "From Software" is more known for Dark Souls now because all I want from them is a current gen Armored Core game and I don't think it will happen due to how popular the Dark Souls are. :(

[@MikailLo]

Maybe the Mario games are just retellings of the exact same adventure where Mario goes to save Princess Peach. And it's different Lakitus chronicling different parts of the adventure.

[@Angrygrumps]

is Justin ok at 6:03-6:08??

[@RoddZ4]

That's like Christmas on the 24th.. awesome!!

[@calebkirby9109]

Panzer Dragoon Zwei. Great Prequel

[@LaZy.B.]

origins or a zero "0" sooooo dragon age origins is what exactly a prequel of it self ???

[@Jannradio]

Demon's Souls is totally part of the "Souls" series! God damnit Daemon, I love that game man.

[@VGJunky]

I guess. I don't personally consider "Souls" to be a named series in the same way that Metal Gear Solid or Zelda are, even though Demon's Souls is clearly the same game. In my mind I still split them between Demon's Souls, Dark Souls 1-3, and Bloodborne so I completely understand him saying "I think so"

[@Iamcorrupt91]

Damon: Rumor "Sega is completely fucked." Justin: Woooaah Sam: They used the F word? Damon: Well, well they bleeped it out just like we did.

[@YoshMaster]

Lufia 2 Rise of the Sinistral is an absolute prequel and was a lot more successful than the first!

[@thefattmish]

A real gem, scoop crew mateys.

[@YaguPL]

First mp expierience was Diablo. Summer of 97 , after polish release. My brother, our friends and me playing the shit out of it.

[@CAN-UK]

Krauser, Resident Evil 4

[@kuribo04]

About the not worth going back since there's so much stuff coming out I prefer going for the best, the probability that everything new is among the best is low, I prefer going for the best of each time But at the end it obviously depends on what you wanna spend your time on

[@Not_Liquid]

Andromeda technically takes place after the trilogy. Wayyyyyyy after the trilogy.

[@tommyleelynn]

Justin is wrong. Nintendo isn’t the only company that charges for cloud saves. Sony does too.

[@magicphoenixkike]

Soul Reaver is kind of a prequel to Legacy of Kain isn't it?

[@EvSolo]

Jose Enrique Rojas Hernandez No because Kain is already a vampire in Soul Reaver. In the original game you start as a regular human. Man do I wish that game got remastered (the original, not the boring block puzzle simulation sequel.)

[@shinycaseyd]

SOUL REAVER WAS SO COOL. I would love if that series got revived.

[@magicphoenixkike]

Me too. The mechanics and the lore were something quite different at the time.

[@joejoe3011]

Dang, I'd never heard of Over Horizon. I need to check that out

[@petrecismigiu2813]

Love you Daemon! Best crew member of ign. I like you the maximum limit without being gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I'm just not. Anyway :)) ! And Gamescoop rocks!!

[@RichardHannay]

KISSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!

[@aranikaeding6261]

Seinfeld reference XD

[@aaronjones6798]

I think of the 8 player co-op from Resistance 2 and now that the servers were shut down it's gone forever - I hope it gets preserved in some way. Why would anyone watch the original Star Wars films from 77-83, they're old and their effects are quite dated. I remember playing Quake via dial-up, I would dial a friends house and we'd play - probably the first game I played online.

[@vitaspieler469]

Yakuza 0, baby!

[@sam805236]

35:20 Damn Justin, you just blew my freakin mind! Now I feel sooo old (I'm 39) lol!