Game Theory: Luigi's SECRET Identity (Super Paper Mario)

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Mario is mental, Peach is a dictator, Toad is a brainwashed monster, and Bowser is a struggling dad. That leaves sweet and lovable Luigi on the chopping block. But seriously, what could POSSIBLY be wrong with Luigi? Well,
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[@cawtious0377]

Villain: Come to the dark side, we have *Appreciation* Luigi: * Becomes a bad guy *

[@lunabeekhuizen8858]

Gotta give it to them, appreciation works better than cookies.

[@knowledgemoore9871]

Love gacha life

[@Tombstone-ri2ts]

This is the worst comment I've ever read

[@cawtious0377]

@@Tombstone-ri2ts Gee, thanks.

[@r1nc0re37]

Poor Luigi he just needs love

[@abigailbaird8913]

Its not like you can blame the guy. Look at how everyone's treated him. Outshined, overlooked. Lugi has a lot of self control to keep a that in.

[@abigailbaird8913]

Luigi*

[@brandonkong4299]

Explain Diddy Kong then he's been shunned from the Mushroom Kingdom

[@cameronkelley4669]

Well he apparently gets Peach in the end.

[@alexanderchon9058]

#LoveTheGreenDynamite

[@vargus6669]

oh hell yeah. I'm surprised he hasn't killed everyone yet.

[@AppleSaurus01]

I kinda feel bad for Luigi. He’s been bossed around for his entire life by everyone else and is always in the background of his brother. He has to bottle up how he felt for years because he felt like nobody was there for him, which is kind of scary to think about. Mr. L was never evil, he was just depressed and neglected.

[@yadielgaleano4407]

Wow some dark just like my waist

[@angielowe2569]

Whoa now someone knows how much emotional connections I have with these fictional characters

[@Mrangrybird-vg1iy]

@@angielowe2569 also, that was paper Luigi, very different

[@joselynneroberts]

Yeah

[@ballshuichi5900]

ya but at least he has a daughter named rosalina but its just a theory a game theory

[@kharnthebetrayer8251]

A fun thing with Luigi. He's called a coward. But he reacts with the same level of fear, to everything. Just a general level of 'oh no, thats scary'

[@chewy4722]

he’s a sociopath like mario and only knows how to mimic one level of fear

[@kitkat25195]

Irl: but hey, that’s just a theory

[@mikehannigan6143]

@@kitkat25195 A GAME THEORY!

[@meghanavallururaju7650]

@@mikehannigan6143 AAAAAAAAAAAAAND Cut

[@honeycitrus4770]

he was never a coward, just someone with common sense

[@jupitariandisaster4023]

Mr. L/Luigi: jealous of Mario’s jumping ability. Also Luigi: can, in most games, jump higher than Mario.

[@danthebunnie_origins1146]

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[@-.starfilled_galaxy.-]

Luigi in Luigi’s mansion (I’m referring to the third one cuz that’s the only one I’ve played): Uh- Mario in Luigi’s mansion: *juMP UP IN THE AIiIiIrRr!!! coME ON DON’T BE SCAaAaAaRrEDDD!!!!!*

[@jupitariandisaster4023]

@@-.starfilled_galaxy.- I did say in MOST games

[@Typ122]

Mario just has the better PR agency.

[@petegordon1648]

Lol

[@GameTheory]

Luigi is still my favorite :)

[@waduigi6626]

me too

[@taitalks2072]

so when we gonna get a yoshi theory?

[@shio2493]

He's the best out of all mario characters

[@TheLordDhaos]

That was amazing! Never thought of Super Paper Mario this way. I'll have some fonder memories of the game now that I've seen his true side..

[@erikmalcom5070]

Well it's official, all my favorite Mario characters suck now. Next your going to tell me yoshi is a pedophile

[@shenronsuper]

If Lugigi actually does feel like this it show how good he is. He choses not to act on these emotions because he knows they're wrong and suppresses them instead.

[@junyanwang4705]

yeah!.

[@arctic_lilly]

Lugigi

[@weirdwillowtree4087]

@@arctic_lilly Translation: Read it

[@desireer6915]

So true!

[@ShrimySeabug]

I would argue that Mr.L isn't the truest form of Luigi, but an exploration of what he represses. A lot of professionals use different forms of "hypnosis" to explore feelings we don't want to have/won't let ourselves know we have.

[@rainn205]

WAIT! Nastasia uses "hypnoses" to make peach say "i do" in her wedding to bowser. if Nastasia's powers don't actually do anything then that means peach agreed to marry bowser! *mind blown*

[@gerardoareyesm]

stockolm syndrome again ...

[@BerryMilkWay]

Wow

[@iimoonytoony7879]

Stockholm syndrome at it’s finest.

[@callmeanon307]

Marios verson of beauty and the beast

[@average_nut_job311]

OMG, this actually kinda explains MatPats other video explaining how this is all just some story. something "staged". Because perhaps Peach actually has feelings for bowser. just not when they are staging their "huge story" so yes. EVERYONES MIND, BLOWN!!!

[@jodyhannaford8636]

Can we really blame luigi for being evil everyone disrespects him and is always mean to him so we can't blame him

[@Los_HermanitosCruz]

True

[@snakinatrix4435]

It's possible this is just Luigi being suggested to lashing out and temporarily thinking it's a good idea. We don't see Luigi offscreen. It's possible he was also manipulated into lashing out

[@Silver-gm7oo]

True

[@rainbowunicorn4935]

Super Mario: *Luigi just saved Mario* Mario: *shuts door* Luigi: AM I A JOKE TO YOU!!! Mario and Peach: Ummmmmm...Yes?

[@yourfriendlyneighborhood3991]

I mean, there’s a difference between justified behavior and... just being evil.

[@corey-ross]

MatPat said, "You'd think we could just leave the Mario Franchise alone!" When he literally made like 30 episodes on FNAF's lore alone.

[@manolgeorgiev9664]

54 episodes of FNAF now. Looking forward to number 100.

[@corey-ross]

@@manolgeorgiev9664 Damn you're right.

[@Gacha_gays]

Haven't there been like 200?

[@AK_804]

well...@@manolgeorgiev9664

[@DazzlingNishi]

Okay but Luigi just gained the courage to truly speak his thoughts, but that doesn't mean he's actually evil or mean behind his soft side! People can have thoughts they don't want to have but still kind of agree with, and thus keep them hidden because they don't want to hurt the people they know!

[@riddl3m3thisb4tm4n]

Wait, so if that's how hypnosis works... then Shaggy was never the scared and frightened being he pretended to be. He was able to show his godlike strength under hypnosis because he was given the courage to do so.

[@amelia4384]

Matt placebo

[@a-foe1516]

Shaggy wants to know your location

[@klabiaga3684]

I remember that episode

[@hyperbiscuit2284]

Basically, he just has an extremely overactive fear response, so when the hypnosis eliminates his inhibitions and fears, he's super brave. Granted, he's not any braver than anyone else under the influence of hypnosis, but he seems a lot braver because of how overly scared he is normally.

[@loganshaw9198]

@@hyperbiscuit2284 well if you could remover the limiters, governor's, and restraints of the mind it would give the same effect if not more so then the hypnosis on shaggy.

[@the.fairyonearth]

Luigi was my favourite. Seeing Mr. L only makes me like him more.

[@octogaming3815]

Once you know the worst of someone you can develop a better relationship. This goes for fictional characters as well

[@blueanimal7300]

Same here 😍

[@arunes1995]

*Mr. Lonly tho*

[@memowl3663]

His like my dad •Taller but younger •Less known •AND AWESOME

[@hollietheblanketail6570]

*Y A S S*

[@Funtime_Kacey]

So what I'm hearing is that Luigi is a tormented soul who always wanted to express himself, but didn't want to be mean so Mr. L just made that kind barrier desolve. That hypnotism probably was therapeutic to him oof

[@stead1100]

In LM dark moon when he said "I...did it?" God I cried

[@Typ122]

i cri evrytiem

[@cornedbread3669]

I mean Luigi was tossed like shat by Mario, Ditched by Peach, and Left alone by people he admired. It takes guts to hold that up.

[@Los_HermanitosCruz]

Yup

[@luigiwithguns3588]

I had a hard life

[@glitchtrap9112]

@@luigiwithguns3588 now you have guns

[@BerryMilkWay]

Lugi has had a tuff life I feel bad for him

[@luigigooigi8980]

And his girlfriend daisy cheated on him with Mario

[@sonicmeerkat]

Luigi's secret identity? If you say Ness I will flip a table.

[@dumpy-truck]

Ness

[@kriegsmarinekonigstiger4038]

Nezz

[@ivoryvt]

Lucas.

[@Kyrisol]

It's Mr L

[@lukasbostick]

+MrKenesukun you ruined it

[@auraverse6656]

Does that mean it wasn’t against peaches morals to say “I do” to bowser? 🤣

[@unprankable666]

Well, on a base level, it means she truly prefers bowser to Mario, and is probably sympathetic to his position as a single parent just trying to get a complete family for the koopalings. The koopalings are Bowser's adopted children, and as you saw in the beginning, MatPat has already done an episode on that. So, yes. Peach, on a basic subconscious, or even conscious level, cares about Bowser more than she cares about Mario.

[@janicedsilva16]

@@unprankable666 ooooooooh. That’s interesting.........

[@yadielgaleano4407]

Go on simping Mario u arent getting any of it

[@-.starfilled_galaxy.-]

@@yadielgaleano4407 **Thinks of the Mario is Mental episodes** I don’t think he cares-

[@crankpatate3303]

For everyone thinking Luigi is evil after this video, I have a question: What is better? To be born good or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? Seems like Luigi is a loyal friend and brother, despite the evil thoughts dwelling inside of him. I think this revelation makes Luigi even more of a good guy, than he already was.

[@cocobubbles7251]

Is it weird this makes me actually like Luigi more as a character cause now to me he seems extremely polite cause he keeps his feelings to himself to not hurt anyone...that's so polite honestly

[@lowdefazura3950]

Paper Mario is a spin-off anyway

[@drumlindrums7913]

me too

[@lilodcruz9606]

i agree with you

[@DragonKnightJin]

Luigi is so polite, and doesn't want to not hurt anyone.. Is he Canadian instead of Italian? I kid, I kid. But it'd be pretty funny if he was Mario's adopted brother.

[@rocko682]

to me it make him cooler and more loveable

[@tessa7468]

''yea joey you milk that cow, you milk it good and hard'' -matpat 2016

[@tessa7468]

12:08

[@tostie3110]

Slap that under a porno, aand you're done!

[@gaminggamer563]

hahaha

[@jscommando]

Matpat cheating on his girlfriend confirmed.

[@sorryitsmytourettes6968]

+JSCommando wife

[@kitedwards2085]

"his feelings for peach".....so he IS rosealinas father-?

[@zanethecatboy1561]

This only made me like Luigi more. Also almost all of Your Mario theory videos slowly made Luigi my favorite character.

[@miraculousmoonsanddragons]

Feelings for Peach? Guess that proves that he's Rosalina's dad.

[@yuurichito1439]

STOP... STOPPPP RUINING MY CHILDHOOD

[@sophieross6923]

This is too weird. I'm calling the FBI.

[@RadiantSkiddMarx]

Oof, you have a point. Looks like matpat skimmed over some evidence.

[@grelly_chan8401]

I always shipped Luigi and Peach so much so my brother would fight me about it XD

[@briancastone8741]

Peach isn't a he...

[@naba4635]

Luigi=Game Theory Mario=Film Theory

[@user-crane]

Wario = Culture shock

[@user-crane]

Blue Toad = The Science

[@datpugluvr6056]

Waluigi=My Senpai

[@PinkMelatonin]

Hotel=trivago

[@user-ge9zz9qe8g]

Nah, FT is as cool as GT

[@Gaz66d]

The Luigi “death stare” was evidence in plain sight, like, you know when Luigi wins at that one sports game but Mario comes and steps on his shoes? Then queue the awkward pause and Luigi just sits there scratching his face... Like, you are in the center stage, all eyes on you. This your moment! And your brother is straight up scuffing’ your kicks. You know that it’s like, street rules? You’d get shiv’d in the alley... but here in a packed stadium, you’re getting off light son. And all he can do is just smile and play it dumb, but you know he’s thirsty for some sweet cold revenge yo.

[@aka.crystal56]

The clip when Joey graceffa was hypnotized can be watched over and over again and it won’t get old

[@Nothavinit00]

He's always being bullied, and most think of him as a coward or only second best. In his diary, it shows his envious thoughts and in SSBB, his FS "Negative Zone" is all of his depression, anger, and envy formed into one attack. Mr. L is when he finally snapped.

[@justafan9206]

Oh yeah...

[@vibingwiththewind2889]

'Is there anyone left?' WALUUUUIGI

[@rynebell5362]

Haha

[@ddanenel]

Plus yoshi

[@VinzPDL]

I'm coming for you n*****.

[@user-vm8yb4ev6b]

WAH

[@OldBox]

ITSA ME!WA HA HEEEEEEE!

[@xdrghmkl]

I like it when a good character is shown to have a dark side, it shows that there's always more to people than what you see or think you know.

[@maevearnold6598]

I swear I learn more from MatPat than my entire school year in this one video.

[@floppycat9819]

“Do we have anyone left?” Yes, Toadette and her bad management skills

[@jasonbell2008]

Did it!

[@frankieforeman8295]

Lol yep

[@KT-rp9tx]

Nabbit and stealing all the power ups.

[@jackplay6446]

And slow rewords

[@FreuqKiller666]

roasted

[@S1ege]

Is there a theory about Yoshi yet?

[@Eario5]

Nope :D

[@Frog101_Real]

im waiting...

[@spookysableye]

Nope, but don't worry. Everybody gets a turn!

[@AR-kf4yw]

+Roman Proctor but it wasnt specifically labelling yoshi as something so no

[@Frog101_Real]

I want him next

[@aggonzalezdc]

We are defined by the things we don't do, as much as the things we do. You can't say the real Luigi is him with no inhibitions, how he resists those impulses is part of what makes him who he is, and it makes him strong.

[@oxigeno3234]

4:15 I can't belive someone has ever said something along the lines of "Luigi is secretly..." unironically

[@thatonebitchydoll2260]

Billie Ellish: I’m the bad gu- Luigi: *am I a joke to you?*

[@yalikejazz8850]

Lol I

[@natedoyle9171]

lmao

[@imgay2362]

Bille Ellish:yes idiot

[@hollietheblanketail6570]

Billie Eilish: *Duh* Mario:RUUUUUUUDDEEEEEEE

[@faridanagiub5934]

Nice one😂😂😂 Luigi =legend

[@vanessawalker6666]

Me: ooo a video about Mario MatPat: starts talking about torture in North Korea and brainwashing

[@pixelcat5725]

Aw this just makes me want to hug him. Poor guy.

[@alpha0478]

Luigi: (under appreciated) Me: why is this so relatable? 😢

[@leociresi4292]

Luigi and Orangeman should join Forces to bounty hunt Back Rooms monsters!

[@-ant-4633]

Luigi: *saves the universe from a demon* Mario: stops a go kart , party loving fire turtle Mario: I’m a clearly better

[@hatcellucard599]

When

[@clapped-cheeks]

@@hatcellucard599 i think the luigi mansion series

[@joeda900]

Also Mario: Literally fights Bowser in outer space to prevent him from conquering the universe

[@Dr.Callaham]

In super Mario galaxy, yes

[@callmeanon307]

@@joeda900 luigi did it too tho

[@nununotfound]

But I thought Mr. L died in Death Note....

[@pok3monm4st3rjade3]

XD

[@Skinnybeefy]

spoileeeer :')

[@Sergeantmajormario]

Mario will take a Mushroom....and....EAT IT!!!!!

[@nununotfound]

+Skinnybeefy Lol I should've thought about that

[@davidflores909]

He never had the opportunity to be Mr. :(

[@leonardocouto3109]

I just think Luigi had it all in him. He had all those feelings bottled inside out of jealousy and lack of self-respect. I mean, don't we all have a little of Mr. L? Jealousy of our peers who seem to be doing better? Insufficient self-respect to accept our growing pace? Sometimes, even anger issues that can lead us to do terrible things? Don't all of these things not manifest due to inhibition, be it conscious or not? Maybe some of us, if hipnotized in our worse moments, when we crave the worst things we could wish for, could do much worse than even Mr. L.

[@alliecrown2125]

Matpat: the big bad of this game is Count Bleck Dimentio: Im about to ruin this man’s whole carrier. Spoilers?

[@chaosreigns._com]

Yes thank you. I have never played the game before 🥲

[@wariot707]

@@chaosreigns._com your profile says otherwise.

[@chaosreigns._com]

@@wariot707 honestly by now I have seen so much on super paper Mario that I know the story of the game by noe

[@chaosreigns._com]

Now*

[@curllum]

Why is he jealous of his jumping skills When he can jump higher Edit: I feel like I exist for once lol

[@aeryxis956]

but mario can wall jump

[@Profligateslayer]

Novexium [GD] bruh Luigi can wall jump too.

[@sonin3579]

I think he's talking about Mario's jumps precision, like, Luigi can jump higher but it's pretty hard to control his jumps cause he's always walking on ice mode

[@christabelleramirez2025]

Um....

[@octogaming3815]

Maybe it is harder for Luigi. Luigi does this less than Mario so he is not as used to this. And Mario could be hiding some muscle under that fat not so much Luigi who is skinny and we can see all of his muscle not much.

[@duskkstone7308]

so what you're saying is someone needs to give luigi a hug and a blanket and let him vent out his frustrations

[@melodirosen9433]

Basically

[@DelphinSquared]

Yep. It's the basic plot of getting outshadowed by someone else. Luigi is someone with a vengeance, and a really strong one towards the people around him.

[@ChauNyan]

Or the Mario characters are really good actors. The whole franchise is a play after all. Just look at paper Mario, you see a bunch of Mario enemy sitting down in row of chairs to watch Mario fight someone. This happen every time he enters a battle too.

[@duskkstone7308]

ChauNyan i will hug him reguardless

[@marvelousnerd8717]

Benjamin Allison no I wouldn't do that he may shoot me

[@angeldaviega6339]

Matpat: destroys my life "but that's just a theory" Me: OH THAT'S SO COMFORTING.

[@justafan9206]

I unironically am comforted by that. Haha...

[@Firegroupfugl]

Interesting theory idea. One problem though. Unlike the KZbinrs in the video who said that they felt fully there while being hypnotised Luigi is confused when Mario finds him in the Underwhere. He doesn't know how he got there and says the last thing he remember is being surrounded by Bleck's minions. He figured that was how he got there. (We know of course that he was "killed" by Dimentio in Chapter 6).

[@kylenguyen7371]

So, what MatPat is telling me is that Luigi has a lot of repressed frustrations and anger, but the only time we get a glimpse at the full scope of these feelings is while he's under hypnosis?

[@morrasod1858]

Yup

[@NightClawprower]

Kyle, Kyle, Kyle... Never underestimate the subconscious mind of a person.

[@nerdsforever4852]

my guess is that while he dose love his friends he still feels like he dose not get respect he deserves. he wants people to respect him mr L is Lugi is without his fear and love its his base urges

[@atlas7736]

MIEND BLOON

[@kylenguyen7371]

Morrasod I guess that would still make Luigi the most normal member of the entire cast, then.

[@NxTTxT]

"He wears green. Game Theory's color is also green." MatPat is Game Theory. Game Theory is green. Luigi is also green. MatPat is Luigi. #confirmed

[@probablyjustsnails]

Woahhhh!!1!

[@imhakks]

You're paranoid Matpat is amazing!!!

[@theun1cornlord714]

illuminati confirmed

[@SabuuBH]

+Memo Dubon illuminati is also green...

[@h_1578]

+EXP Sheepy I hope you're joking

[@casdj906]

"I'm actually planning on doing my own theory collection someday. Let's see, Bendy's has a split personality, Alice is still the fallen angel trying to keep her mask on, and Joey's the real antagonist. Is there anyone left?" Looks at Boris hiding under a case table. " Well hello there!"

[@Nube-Gamer]

I like how most of the comment section actually justifies Mr. L's existence.

[@derickfisher7366]

Luigi has always been my favorite. I really want this to be true. He deserves to knock mario down a peg.

[@pleasedonotthecat6976]

no dummy idiot

[@warhubnia164]

Me too

[@jakeplays542]

ISABELLA ABALOS o h, o h

[@richardoh2824]

Same Luigi has only a few games based on him while most of the rest of the franchise revolves around Mario and keeps Luigi in his shadow. And if you flip Luigis hat upside down it says #1

[@GlitchingRobin]

Or ya know like 10 pegs Bro

[@Austar7]

So, what you're saying around 12:00 is that Mr Krupp the mean principal WANTED to be Captain Underpants in the titular book series?

[@brandonbernard4157]

0-0

[@DannyB1111]

Hahaha

[@IzzuZiq]

Ms. Ribbles?

[@liamillionss]

**MIND BLOWN** My childhood has both been expanded and destroyed simultaneously.

[@derekkaplan3420]

You really think some children's book author did as much hypnosis research as one of the world's leading game companies? That was just a mistake in the series.

[@terrifictortoise5602]

I can not describe the amount of nostalgia in going back to a video with the old intro

[@lucarioaura4943]

Mr. L (to Luigi): I am a shadow of your true inner self *persona 4 INTENSIFIES*

[@FanOfAnimation]

MatPat, you forgot about the most important character in the Mario Universe, Waluigi.

[@slpyari]

WAH

[@KKYTChannel]

Indeed, its Waluigi Time!

[@EwenVRC]

+Jayden Robinson *waluigi

[@charlesfort6602]

+Waluigi numer one!

[@goldmanguypersondudeperson9183]

WA HA HEEEE

[@BigOofer1]

Remembers dream team (Inside Luigi's mind) GO BRO! GOTTA SAVE BRO! BRO NEEDA HELP! HE'S SO COOL!

[@jevillplays4060]

(SUPER PAPER MARIO) pls stop hitting on my fav :(

[@JiBo6969]

that's means nothing as in paper jam you can see that the paper world and normal world aren't the same so the paper one is like this but the real one isn't

[@broken_clay5013]

The nostalgia is real. I still have my old DS with Dark moon, dream team, animal crossing new leaf...

[@somerandomboi7045]

@OctoFlower YTare you a only child ?

[@robotrob3862]

Good point

[@JudasMahorn]

By your own logic, Luigi is just acting as how he thinks hypnosis would be. I think

[@Womoisreal]

1:43 Luigi Has some pretty deep wishes

[@frogprincekt6754]

wait... Nastasia also hypnotized Peach into marrying bowser in the start of the game... Does that mean that she really does secretly love him? GASP

[@jameschan8152]

AvianInkKit I think it was more "knocking her out and putting her there"

[@frogprincekt6754]

James Chan But she did say 'I do' under the effects of hypnotism, when she resisted at the start

[@jameschan8152]

AvianInkKit that part was completely forced. Natasia used something a bit stronger then hypnosis, it was literal force.

[@frogprincekt6754]

James Chan I suppose it is easier to physically force somebody to say something than to become an evil super villain. Fair points.

[@NEETKitten]

Nope. Nastasia doesn't hypnotize people; she brainwashes them. Very different, and it makes this whole theory come apart at the seams.

[@jaswinkochhar3129]

Am I the only one who likes luigi more than Mario

[@imatshirt3008]

Nope.

[@jaswinkochhar3129]

+hanna smith ha I knew it

[@bcd8208]

Most definitely not! ;)

[@misterproject8]

I think everyone prefers Luigi

[@MeI-vg5kb]

no way!

[@aarongodwin81]

I think Luigi is still a great guy it just means he’s holding back on his anger to be the good guy Luigi you deserve more

[@nintendoswitchfan4953]

To get this straight, luigi is the reincarnation of count blecks great grandfather (count bleck is a villian in super paper mario who tries to destroy the world). When luigi is hypnotised he goes back to his previous life. It says in the game "was reincarnated to a man in green" and dimentio says dimentio is the ultimate source to the chaos heart

[@watervssodies]

You've done theroies of almost all the Mario characters.... What time is it now.... Waluigi Time

[@juulio3966]

yes

[@lag8930]

What time is is now? It's high noon.

[@thatlonelygiraffeinc.6989]

Why not Wario?

[@strangething7379]

The time is currently 3:47 pm on the east coast of the United States

[@hamzahkhan4067]

turn down for waaaaaa

[@benschach108]

Mr L should definitely be a Super Smash Bros Luigi alternate costume

[@dkpsyhog]

Ben Schach we have dark link after all, so makes sense.

[@thispurplebeanYT]

He's in PM

[@kazuichisouda2026]

Mr. L is his Final Smash (in Brawl.)

[@fearharambe3321]

He is in the Smash Bros Brawl Melee

[@MundongLeyo]

Just thought of that

[@stitch3429]

I like how at the end the music makes it sound that Luigi was better as Mr. L than just himself

[@dawsong8093]

While Luigi is not going against his morals that doesn't necessarily make him evil, he has been keeping his inner Mr.L inside much like Papyrus. Also they are almost parallel.

[@salurorottiers9305]

you made me love luigi even more

[@salurorottiers9305]

and you still have yoshi and kamek and lakitu

[@Jhanssikastro]

lol

[@200puppy7]

I was gonna comment basically the same thing!

[@natevantassell9349]

Sam Rottiers Couldn't have said it my self!

[@200puppy7]

Nate VanTassell Are you unable to comment those words? Or maybe you meant to say "Couldn't have said it better myself"? Don't get mad, just kidding around :)

[@gormlessCreator]

GUYS, THIS THEORY IS BACKED UP BY ANOTHER GAME! In Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time, for the DS, the brothers eventually come across an area known as Star Hill. They reach a point where a talking Star Gate won't allow them through because Luigi is HIDING DARK SECRETS.

[@sixth_shinx6016]

But he was lying; it was just a test for the brothers.

[@XtremeGamesW2013]

In another game from the same series, Dream Team, we go into the deepest parts of Luigi's mind and see NONE of this! I definitely think there was magic involved.

[@gormlessCreator]

Jaydom Studios Actually that's a different Luigi. It's complicated but here it is: In Bowser's Inside Story you can find a secret boss where you fight the Shroobs (from Partners in Time). There the brothers mention to Starlow that they fought the Shroobs when they were babies. Meaning that they aren't the same brothers as the ones where Luigi had "dark secrets". And since in Dream Team the brothers already knew Starlow at the start of the game that means that you play as the babies (from Partners in Time) in Dream Team and not the "Older Mario & Luigi" from Partners in Time. A mouthful, yes, but debunked.

[@gormlessCreator]

Jaydom Studios So basically, the Mario & Luigi from Superstar Saga & Partners in Time are different from the Mario & Luigi from Bowser's Inside Story, Dream Team, and Paper Jam.

[@sixth_shinx6016]

MudKevin No... there's no reason why the older Mario and Luigi in Partners in Time wouldn't have remembered those events from when they were babies later or something.

[@supercyrus9975]

Well the game specifically says that her powers are extremely strong, so it probably has a much stronger effect like I’d say amplifying your emotions of hatred and such.

[@edvinwester8064]

5:36 sounds like school to me…

[@xiaoling00]

Nah jit trippin

[@IsabruhMoment]

Hmm...he's done Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, and Toad...time to pop open that green-and-white egg...

[@Bananasnyx]

sshhhh! don't give him any more ideas

[@scottbakanowsky3256]

Really!?!? Giving MatPat more ideas to ruin the Mario series?!?!

[@mlpmoonlightflower9608]

GOOD IDEA AHAHAHHA

[@toxictiger533]

+Scott Bakanowsky ikr i dont like it that it that much but i like it

[@scottbakanowsky3256]

+roman jackson I don't understand.

[@bra_matth]

Educational brain washing *exists* School *ight imma head out*

[@sudeshchauhan8819]

Dude.... Good joke!

[@hollietheblanketail6570]

Dude.... Thats what school is!

[@sudeshchauhan8819]

@@hollietheblanketail6570 omg i agree

[@hollietheblanketail6570]

@@sudeshchauhan8819 ...Y A S S

[@sudeshchauhan8819]

@@hollietheblanketail6570 i am stuck at ma house bec of corona and slowly dying of bordeom

[@rickydiscord7671]

"I want you to beat up your brother" "why would I ever do that? :(" "always behind him, he steals your girlfriend away and never let you be in the spotlight." "...yeah...you are right. but he is my brother." "did your brother give you any respect?" "...maybe..." "has he ever shown that he loves or care about you?" "..." "that's what I thought. rise Luigi, rise and show the world how you really feel." "yeah...YEAH! *his dark side awakens*"

[@gabehobby3951]

You know the game Mario and Luigi: Paper Jam? Yeah, sorry Mat. This is paper Luigi, not normal Luigi. The paper mario world is separate to the normal mario world

[@junpei5226]

@Sidney J. Duffy And sorry to break it to you but if you payed attention to Super Paper Mario youd know this theory isn't right

[@junpei5226]

@Sidney J. Duffy You mean how the games hinted at Luigi being brainwashed and even showing other people brainwashed against their own will? Don't try to be a smart aleck if you can't even pay attention to such a simple detail.

[@junpei5226]

@Sidney J. Duffy And What's the point of replying to mine if my reply was talking about the theory?

[@junpei5226]

@Sidney J. Duffy So it's ok for you to reply but not me? That's pretty hypocritical no matter what reason. You knew exactly what I was talking about and the OG comment the person made was to specifically debunk this theory.

[@gabehobby3951]

I’m just gonna grab some popcorn real quickly

[@jacobbondurant7186]

well... Luigi may HAVE a bad SIDE to him... but you can't really blame him! his self-esteem is quite low (shown by his life-sized mental image of himself in Mario and Luigi: Dream Team), he was traumatized as a baby (according to ANOTHER 1 of MatPat's theroies), his allies always expect him to obediently do as told (and he DOES!), AND he's ALWAYS overshadowed by his HEROIC, FEARLESS, FAMOUS BIG brother Mario "HOORAY! MARIO SAVED THE DAY! Oh, hey Luigi..." He 's always seen as the sidekick, the side guy, the tag-a-long, the scared-y cat... the iconic... Player 2... Heck! Just LOOK at his death stare in Mario Kart 8! I mean, it is CLEARLY shown that Luigi loves his brother, will do anything for the betterment of good, is always patriotic and trustworthy towards his duty as a hero and ghost buster (no matter how,scared, terrified, mortified, and cowardly he is due to his infantile traumatization), finishes the job he started, AND will happily follow the orders of those he trusts... he may not be the most self-confident individual, taking little scraps of pride and praise as they come and go BECAUSE everyone sees him as the lesser of 2 brothers, but he's still an honest, careful, and kind soul! But... He doesn't want to be Player 2 anymore...

[@jacobbondurant7186]

Oh, also... I LOVE Super Paper Mario! It MIGHT be my favorite game of all time! Just wish that it had a boss arena or sumthin'... oh well. Still an awesome anime-esque game.

[@darkhayy]

Jacob Bondurant you deserve to work for matpat. or at least edit his scripts

[@sasharacket2907]

Exactly! If anything, Luigi is more heroic than Mario for having to deal with all the crap he receives daily!

[@fandomguy8025]

This theory explains alot! It explains Mr. L's behavior, like his Narcissism. "Just one of Count Bleck's more promising Minions!" He's finally free to be proud of who he is and isn't afraid to show it. Like a compressed spring. After being put down by his brother all the time, with the help of Hypnosis he's free to become an explosion of self pride. "Hey, Mrjumpsallthetime! Now we'll see who's the better Jumper!" Those who are oppressed when they fight to free themselves from that pressure always encourage pride in themselves afterwards.

[@kamal6550]

It can be brain washing and why the koopo lings are working for bleak and what about Mario and Luigi dream team

[@mattharris7674]

I'm colorblind, so I thought game theory's color was yellow 😅

[@lonotalonota5779]

Is what seems to be green to us, yellow to you?

[@jacobmckee434]

lol me too

[@tacotate137]

Wow

[@alexhubert4729]

So did you think luigi was yellow to?

[@chalkman5466]

How silly - everyone knows that it's red

[@razer6476]

He's always been one of my favorites. He is always overlooked, much like I am.

[@stevespaghettirobotics1333]

In my opinion this video just makes me realize how strong willed Luigi is to hold back his true self against everyone. Even though Mario trying to steal princess peach from Luigi he still stays the good guy and this is why Luigi is the strongest and my favorite character.

[@ravenneck1035]

What if Luigi has a multiple personality disorder and this ‘hypnosis’ just brought out a Luigi with no moral codes, sick of Mario’s abuse, unearthing his love for the fairest princess in the land, and giving a good old kick in the gut to MARIO. Also, what if Luigi himself had no morals because he had been told what to think his entire life.

[@lextatertotsfromhell7673]

Wait, Luigi was a clone of MARIO half-life 3 confirmed

[@oldsbone]

thats a good idea

[@the_jingo]

Joseph catZ kid get outta here no hl3 for you

[@lazykoalabros6254]

Yeah maybe his Like Mike from total drama?

[@ryandente1133]

I guess both of those are possible (and also good theory :D)

[@scarxnnivs]

Just now I remembered the hug that Mario gave him in Luigi's Mansion 3-

[@Squib-kb2tn]

And suddenly I don't agree with 90% of the comment section.

[@-.starfilled_galaxy.-]

I don’t understand???

[@whiteface513abandonedchann8]

Hey, Mario's gotta make sure his brother thinks he cares every now and again, you know?

[@anyydidi]

and now i stopped agreeing with the video and comments uwu

[@sanguinedelight6464]

and in Dream Team........

[@krismoon3901]

Now I wanna see Waluigi convince Luigi to give into his darker side and team up with him and Wario... Now that'd make for an interesting game

[@KaneKatlas]

Mr L isn’t necessarily just Luigi’s true form, it is all those bundled up feelings he’s had all his life piled up

[@Delemaroth]

I really want Nintendo to confirm or deny these theorys...

[@tostie3110]

This is clearly just a poorly thought-out hypnosis cliché if you ask me.

[@cobaltcabana]

*theories

[@seandobbins2231]

They would never do that.

[@gostlyrics3605]

bud, he researches the theories and spend a whole day to arrange this. Nintendo is one HELL of a Dark COMPANY. They Put many secrets, DARK SECRETS. mmmkay

[@cjjoynerlaw]

+BpNjGaming I agree he would never do anything for a few subscribers viewings

[@jaspereisele]

Maybe Luigi hasn't been hiding Mr L all along. Maybe Mr L is the embodiment of all this hatred against Mario that's in the back of his mind. TL;DR Luigi is not Mr.L, but the hatred of Luigi is Mr.L

[@octogaming3815]

No. I don’t think so. Luigi is the younger brother of Mario. Younger brothers want to be like their oldest brother. Luigi tries so hard but never gets the chance. He keeps away those feelings because he loves and wants to love his brother. Luigi is a nice person and doesn’t want to hate anyone he would rather love them. I mean. Does Luigi ever get angry at anyone at all really?

[@ryderforpresident]

Not sure why you needed a TL;DR there…

[@bettyunicorn6132]

That makes sence

[@sirrbryan]

@@octogaming3815 well, Mr. L could just be the jealousy part of Luigi. Luigi tries so hard to get some respect and recognition, but mario absorbs it all. Notice how in games where mario receives compliments and recognition, hes so used to it he doesnt show much emotion anymore. However, luigi when he receives just a HINT of recognition, he makes a big deal out of it because he never gets any in the first place. I understand what you mean by the brothers love each other, which they do. Mario would choose Luigi over treasure or a castle any day, but that doesnt mean Luigi is happy. Can we blame him for becoming Mr. L? Over the years his sanity probably drained and he changed his moral code. Luigi is jealous of Mario's jumping abilities, even though he jumps HIGHER than Mario. Which means, Luigi has been put off as such a let-down, that he wasnt aware of what hes capable of doing nor gave himself credit for anything, until he awoke his mind and became Mr. L. In the state of Mr. L, he finally had his chance to shine and he uses that chance in a strategic way. Heck, he was so great that he became the final boss of the game! Obviously, the player knows what Luigi is capable of so when they see luigi, scared out of his shorts, they frown upon him. But, hes scared of danger because he doesnt know that hes able to get the job done because everyone just sees him as a let-down. Luigis life is very sad, this is why hes my favorite mario character.

[@corneliu8827]

so basically... Dr Jerkyll and Mr Hyde?

[@fIorapetals]

Oh my goodness I absolutely adored this. Super Paper Mario is one of my all-time favourite games and Luigi is one of my all-time favourite characters! I've always thought there was more to his psyche too, I personally headcanon him with anxiety but this theory just adds so much more to work with.

[@demi_dummy_hs5376]

IM GLAD HES REALLY MR L, Ive been playing Paper Mario ever since I was little and Mr L was litterly my favorite character

[@grelly_chan8401]

Love Luigi he's been my favorite character since I was a kid Mr. L just makes him a badass

[@luigigooigi8980]

Grelly_Chan yes

[@Beezbuggz_Offical]

My parents miss heard me at Gamestop when i said I wanted Super Mario Maker and bought me Paper Mario and i was not happy but now they got it right so you can have my Paper Mario game if i find a way to mail it to you

[@luigigooigi8980]

undertale fangirl85 wdym

[@Beezbuggz_Offical]

@@luigigooigi8980 what does that mean

[@imzipperoni]

@@Beezbuggz_Offical he asked what do you mean

[@shadowasii4492]

12:00 i perfer doctor who's explanation of hypnosis: "you can hypnotize someone to walk like a chicken or sing like Elvis, [but] you can't hypnotize them to death. Survival instinct's too strong."

[@loganshaw9198]

Because the first two are possible more so if they want to show off. And the last they would not do unless already suicidal.

[@seanmaddex4104]

I have watched through all of game theory several times but I don’t remember ever seeing this one before. This is a great episode

[@ellienugent3120]

13:22 THAT'S WHY IT'S SO SCARY. WITH CHARACTERS WHO ARE GOOD LIKE THIS GOING EVIL...YIKES. THAT'S HOW BAD THIS REALLY IS.

[@anthonyfox585]

Luigi has always been my favorite character

[@Light_3209]

Anton Fuchs same.

[@decro7392]

Anton Fuchs he is also my favorite character

[@panickypatchwork8863]

Yep. AND NOW HE’S FRICKEN DEAD

[@infernothehedgehog-rl6iz]

mines DK and Diddy kong just look at the smash ultimate thing for king dedede and king k rool

[@gabrielfung77]

Same

[@pixelparasite829]

Can you really blame the guy!? I mean, all his life he's been living in his brother's shadow, and he's never once complained or shown any signs of jealousy! In fact, he thinks the world of Mario! All he's ever wanted is to be like him, to earn his approval, but he's only ever had his dreams crushed! He's been ignored, disrespected, and unappreciated by everyone he knows, including his brother, whom he idolizes and loves! To Mario, he's just a big joke. Merely a source of comic relief on some of his adventures. This is the brother whom he loves without question!!! Whom he has risked his life for multiple times and has he ever gotten even so much as a thank you!? NO!!! It takes some SERIOUS mental control to keep all of that in for as long as he has, and as far as I'm concerned, the guy has the right to be upset!!! He has the right to be jealous!!! Heck, he has the right to have a pure, burning hatred for Mario!!! (😤😥 I need to chill. Can you tell that I'm upset? 😂)

[@gerardoareyesm]

maybe u are identify with some isssues in common with luigi´s

[@luigigooigi8980]

gerardoareyesm I a dissigree

[@seanmindybarry6800]

I truly agree with this. We can see that his wish is to “be a great plumber like is brother” . Again, all he’s ever been treated like is near to *GARBAGE.* It’s absolutely not okay. It makes a lot of sense that he just allows himself to snap. Like you said, he does have all rights to have that bitter hatred for Mario. *ALL. THE. RIGHTS.*

[@auliamate]

NGL, but I think Luigi needs a therapist, because bottling all those feelings up is *never* a good idea, as it'll lead to an explosion, a *BIG* one.

[@siva3576]

when luigi rescued mario in luigi's mansion 3 they hug i think?

[@diydragon8764]

NGL this just makes me love Luigi even more. It shows that he isn't content to just stay in Mario's shadow, and that, with time and effort, could actually begin to make choices for himself instead of being "Player 2" his entire life

[@Bagimations]

Mr L and Dimentio are my favourite game characters period.

[@thugnastybigumz484]

has anyone ever wondered if nintendo watches this and is just like I didn't think about that but sure go ahead matpat read in between the lines

[@raygagnon4809]

ThugNastyBiGumz i didn't

[@haliaaa]

yes lmao

[@hrishikeshnarayanan9382]

ThugNastyBiGumz lol

[@YMangaka]

I hope they dont.. cause they would either die from laughter watching all this ridiculous overthought-assumed-as-facts this channel calls "theories", or either be scandalised by these same insulting assumptions, to the point they'ld probably ask this channel to get remov-.... waait. Does anyone has Nintendo's big boss number, plz ?

[@marissamckinney6250]

YMangaka umm ok you do realize this is just a THEORY and none of the THEORIES are pointed correct until they had confirmed it...obviously you really don't like MatPat so, you should just go because the world already has people who bring them down for no reason at all. This is for entertainment and to try and get watchers going on their own theories as you read in the comments. So as I like to say Get out of the kitchen if you can't handle the heat.

[@anyalana3048]

I honestly don't blame Luigi, after everything MARIO has done I'd do the same thing

[@sphere7633]

Same

[@chimpmoment130]

I TOTALLY agree!! :D

[@NaruSasuiscool]

Yeah, even the best of people have their limits and frustrations

[@daniellemasarweh3527]

AnnaE same he's still my favorite

[@catcake_cakecat]

I absolutely love the background music Random comment, but I do really love it.

[@hexagonalchaos]

Also, let's not forget, Luigi helped a random internet person bake a Mother's Day cake in a dream. Luigi is just a great guy. (my source for this is those videos where people add narration to tumblr)