Game Theory: Kirby...Dream Land's Biggest THREAT! pt 1

[@GameTheory]

A few thoughts... Kirby as a child: In Dream Land 1, it's established via the manual that he's "a little boy." Sure. I get that. But it doesn't change the fact that he's still a threat to Dream Land. For him to be SO powerful and SO naive is a dangerous combination. Notice in the script I never call him evil. I don't think he has ill-intent. Just because I say he's a villain doesn't mean that he's evil or has bad intentions. I mean it as he's a THREAT. That said, I've changed the title to avoid confusion. Regarding Dyna Blade: Him helping the children after the scene I showed doesn't change the point -- he beat up someone BEFORE learning the whole story, like I tried to make clear in the script. Seeing that scene, he beats up the mom, THEN sees the kids, gives the screen a "cha-ching" gesture and steals them away, feeds them and teaches them to fly...stuff the MOTHER should be doing but can't because she was injured. I get it: Dyna "forgives" him in Revenge of Meta Knight...the same way Landia does in Return to Dream Land, but I see that more as plot convenience because Kirby is the "good guy," or them realizing they have to fight the "true" evil. But think about Kirby;s ACTIONS...if someone just came up to you and started beating you up for no apparent cause, would YOU forgive the person? See them as a hero? Probably not. And don't forget that EVERYONE he fights along the way is in NO WAY connected to the battle between him and Dyna...they're innocents caught in the middle. Kirby's Avalanche: In both Epic Yarn and the original Kirby's Dream Land manual (those are the ones I can think of offhand, but there might be more), Kirby actually speaks English...or something that translates to English, so I think comments throwing these lines out as invalid might be premature. Yes, the game is non-canon, which I acknowledge, but the idea that Kirby ONLY speaks "poyo" isn't necessarily true...or it can be assumed that ALL of Avalanche's lines are translated poyo. And yes, I know Avalanche is a version of puyo puyo...it was a joke. Obviously it's not a Candy Crush mod since, if nothing else, Candy Crush came DECADES later. Kirby as a God of Destruction: That's in part 2 :) I think that's all the major concerns I'm seeing in the comments. Like I said, I don't think he's intentionally villainous. He's a neutral agent of chaos who gets pointed in a direction and just GOES. But when you look at his actions in the games I call out, a lot of times he's doing more harm than good. Does he do good? Absolutely. But he's still a threat.

[@uberboat4512]

Woah. I'm so early that MatPat posted this comment 9 seconds ago. Look at Mat. An actual believable theory where Mat actually proves points well

[@internetperson3436]

You have liked your own comment your argument is invalid

[@uberboat4512]

@@internetperson3436 probably so more people see it so they see his response to the points that those people are gonna comment on

[@christopherfannin8845]

Here's the thing you forgot to tell everyone that Kirby is actually still a baby literally just a baby he does not know any better so when he say he's a chaotic neutral year just need to rephrase it that he's a baby and he still doesn't know any better so he Acts on nature

[@wab5733]

If this were true, then explain the plot from amazing mirror

[@ravioli2201]

Mat pat: kirby is an ameoba Also mat pat: kirby is A gOD OF DESTRUCTION

[@leslieburchett6255]

He said that Kirby is a rencarnation.

[@sagehanson190]

of a god of destruction dipshit

[@cyan.6399]

@@sagehanson190 a chaotic neutral one, though.

[@Nuclearburrit0]

Thus ameoba's are gods of destruction. Problem?

[@jaschabull2365]

Kirby is pretty clearly an Eldritch Abomination.

[@Jova_38]

Videogame protagonist: *exists Game Theory: A C T U A L L Y

[@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec]

Jova38 Nah more like evil.

[@gregorscott7691]

JoJo profile picture

[@spenckiller629]

Za warudo

[@edmardisla8492]

@@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec Protagonist =/= Good

[@user-vi7hx9zl1f]

Is that a JOJO reference

[@Duckinwatr]

I’d love to see a Kirby villain that offers him like... a small piece of candy or something in exchange for taking over the universe for them That’s a flawless master plan

[@MoriShep]

give him one candy a day and booya you win sir ...Unless some towns foke makes cake...easy fixs outlaw cake !~ no wait that would make the pink monster mad ....this plan needs more work

[@AWESOMEEVERYDAY101]

the heros can bribe him back with CAKE

[@etehan2580]

Outstanding move

[@gato_feliz605]

A nightmerish creature wants to know your location

[@NoName-rv9ur]

HoodieDork literally the only reason marx helps you in star allies

[@masonhhoffman]

"That part is a whole separate discussion for next week" It's been 2 years

[@Scary_Mar0]

He canceled it for being wrong

[@christian6037]

Being wrong? You mean the theory was garbage or that it was too mature ?

[@gabcard2767]

@@christian6037 The first one.

[@tatertot5777]

Yea he did a video on how Kirby floats instead

[@simplesimon4561]

This video explains it kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqaxe62JqaeYoqM&ab_channel=TheGameTheorists

[@cd31000]

Rewatching this I realize that Kirby is just the person who doesn't have time to watch cutscenes and skips them.

[@kabob0077]

Oh... Yeah that makes sense...

[@harrybuilder5670]

Doesn't mean he doesn't try fix it, as this video proves. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoWvgKOnnc6osMU&ab_channel=Meteorz

[@Pumpkinbyte]

Unless if its like food i guess

[@ARCHERonaBIKE]

No care for plot? He sounds like Doomguy from Doom2016. "Exposition and plot? Get that outta my face, I need to slaughter the legions of hell"!

[@spikemanfangirl]

kirby is arin hanson?

[@RetroBeetle]

Is anyone gonna mention that, according to the anime, Kirby is a _negative-200-year-old Star Warrior?_ That would easily explain his "act first" behavior.

[@bigj0e__]

Exactly he's just a baby >:(

[@hoodlumscraggy1801]

RetroBeetle in the Kirby anime its stated that Kirby woke up early before he was supposed to

[@hollow1279]

and again, the anime isn’t canon

[@outlawgamer5905]

@@hollow1279 Isn't Kirby/Meta Knight still a Star Warrior in the games?

[@hollow1279]

OutLawGamer It is never mentioned outside the anime

[@ThePureSynergist]

Kirby: Poyo! Also Kirby: I’ve killed 14 gods and counting.

[@ultraheroes2383]

Wait he killed 14 god?

[@marko6204]

@@ultraheroes2383 he also shaters a planet in half with one punch

[@ultraheroes2383]

Mark Mission yeah I know that

[@squeaktheswan2007]

@@marko6204 That's because all bald anime characters are overpowered, and Kirby doesn't have any hair.

[@kylemichelraza3893]

Guko: am i a joke to you

[@hajimescat7745]

To be fair though, Kirby is like 3 years old In Kirby right back at ya (even though the show itself isn’t canon), it looks into part of Kirby’s backstory. Metaknight talks about how Kirby and him are both warriors, but during the flashback when metaknight is like “yeah I got sent to planet pop star just like you”, he also mentions how Kirby is a little bit weaker than him at the moment because he is a child.

[@dinodare1605]

Cake: **Disappears** Kirby: ”Peace was never an option!”

[@Hapymation]

Poyo! Hey, I'm da kirb

[@PopRobb]

@@Hapymation you know questions exist????

[@Hapymation]

@@PopRobb Poyo poyo??

[@PopRobb]

@@Hapymation you seem to destroy things without asking ANY questions. I played your games

[@Hapymation]

@@PopRobb Poyo poyo? 🥺

[@SolarBeam04]

Kirby: u got cakke? Dedede: yea Kirby: you shall perish mortal

[@Chaos89P]

I think it's more like: Kirby: u got cakke? Dedede: yea Kirby: can I have some? Dedede: no Kirby: you shall perish mortal

[@TryHardGamerYT]

Lol... Kirby: *sleeps Dinah Blade (or what ever its called): wooshes by *apple drops on kirby Dinah Blade: Sorry about that, I was getting food for my kids Kirby: THEY WILL ALL DIE

[@popper7633]

Legendary Gaming 553 it is dyna blade

[@clownymoosebean]

@@Redstone246 YOU DARE BRING LIGHT INTO MY LAIR?

[@trueblue1893]

Chaos89P no. Kirby doesn’t ask

[@joho4430]

You did not treat waddle dee with respect. Forgive me child, for what i must waddle doo. *Pulls out gun*

[@aloevera3317]

=) *inhales gun*

[@uberboat4512]

*Gun Kirby*

[@waderomonosky6706]

You might be pleased to see the latest main line Kirby games.

[@lasercraft32]

11:36 "THESE ARE HEROIC CHARACTERS." He says, based off of the one game with the most questionable plot in the series, about a king who stole all the food from the entire kingdom leaving them to starve, and a masked knight who literally used a battleship to try and invade dreamland at one point to FORCE dreamland to work harder...

[@diamondmemer9754]

It's funny in the things kirby eats in the introduction we find Scarfy, the ONLY enemy kirby can't inhale

[@Chou-shi]

Gordos and Mumbies be like : ( ；∀；)

[@diamondmemer9754]

@@Chou-shi ok sorry But they are the characters who become stronger when kirby tries to inhale it Assuming their real form

[@Chou-shi]

@@diamondmemer9754 don't worry I was only joking ^^

[@diamondmemer9754]

@@Chou-shi and I was making the joke scientifically correct because I'm a D

[@whoops3404]

"Scientifically"

[@Jacob-nu9vk]

Duh he doesn't have brains. We already determined he was a single cell. (Remember the nubblies?)

[@KurisuKagato]

But since when did Amoebas have eyes or a mouth??

[@sunnyak4089]

game theory running out of ideas

[@jeromealday614]

@@KurisuKagato an advance amoeba?

[@guywhoateallthepizza1031]

@@jeromealday614 That's not an Amoeba if it's that advanced

[@Joemam024]

Wait wouldn’t he have a nucleus then? That’s kind of like a brain

[@Haminations]

What about that one time Kirby literally saved everyone from Galeem in Smash Bros?

[@williambrito4253]

He was threatened to be killed so he acted to save himself, but just so happening to save people on the way

[@og.K7]

yeet yeet your opinion's not neat

[@TipTheFlip]

Haminations did not expect to see you here

[@ashvinlive245]

I wasnt expected haminations to come here

[@MrMia12dance]

Omg you a good KZbinr heres a story it's my version of kirby hope you like it! Me as kirby: oh no phone rode is missing now I need to get it back and my internet! That guy who bulled me as long dedede: NO Story: he yeeted it out window Kirby: NO I GOT IT Story: she placed it in the tower of wifi Then monster appears Monster: lol you made me here fight me GET READY FOR PART TWO

[@IvanMaster7]

Regarding Kirby’s Adventure, breaking the Star Rod causes the people of Dream Land to stop having good dreams and with Nightmare sealed in the fountain they would be having nightmares every single night. Kirby assaulted King Dedede’s forces to help the people since the King didn’t explain himself.

[@twerdeffan1080]

13:11 Did... Did MatPat just call Puyo Puyo a glorified Candy Crush mod?!

[@Slimecade]

I...

[@fmsdraws5496]

*Puyo Puyo Music stops* Thats just... MatPat, what the hell?

[@Yujinni0]

Matpat looses the right to any puyopuyo theorys forever

[@drow_Lilith9940]

it called a joke

[@JoJo-wn7ze]

Alex Ander Respect for Game Theory: 0%

[@barryskelhorn695]

2019:We will have a part 2 2020:me still waiting for part 2 2319:Still waiting

[@TheGrimFormOfLuck]

True i saw part one and literally just went to find it but sadly did not find it :(

[@razee3038]

@@TheGrimFormOfLuck I hear its because of fan backlash

[@Goaty_1]

Hapy the star warrior his theories don’t make others hate a game, it just makes us more aware or at least makes us think about it more, same with FNAF and Mario theories

[@ralphsalvador157]

Same

[@rickbardalesproductions1202]

the part 2 is the how does kirby fly

[@Littleton3513]

I have a cat named Kirby he’s cute on the outside And cute on the inside

[@TaoScribble]

Lies! No cat is cute on the inside!

[@Littleton3513]

TaoScribble lol 😂

[@Darkflametailz]

not going to lie XD I thought you were going to make a Captain Marvel 'Goose' joke lol

[@unwiser]

Oh I thought he was just a slab of hairy meat

[@Littleton3513]

Darkflametailz that scene is disgusting

[@JoanMendoza]

It looks like you guys got some blow-back from this, but I would love to see how "Kirby and the Forgotten Land" expands or changes this analysis.

[@aaronwright485]

Nothing changes

[@Znae629]

I mean, it’s not like kirby fights anyone who isn’t a mind controlled foe, and once they aren’t mind controlled, he only fights them for the sake of practicing and entertaining the waddle dees.

[@kirbyofthestarsfan]

Kirby doesn't do anything that worsens the situation in FL, so nothing changes

[@TheBaldrickk]

14:20 I've Checked scans of the original Mario instructions. It says when you break the bricks, you're freeing them from it.

[@SgabelloBello]

Death is freedom when you've been transformed by a curse into a brick lol

[@tutel2732]

Death is freedom

[@anonymousgoblin792]

No One's Important. Your looking too far into it lmao.

[@Perdix64]

TheBaldrickk he’s actually baby interesting eh?

[@ladydi8643]

@@Perdix64 don't forget that I'm a baby too

[@potatodog7910]

They stole his cake what do you expect he wouldn’t murder everyone in his way

[@tobytaylor5960]

The one and only Potato Dog John Wick 3: Stolen cake.

[@potatodog7910]

Toby Taylor lol

[@drweeb69_dr.pestilence65]

i never killed

[@nechocat1234]

Yeah because kirby kills them, it's not like bandana waddle dee exists and has been beaten by kirby before

[@caffeineaddict5328]

Shrek is evil and sanic

[@halbarroyzanty2931]

I'd say kirby is more like a very young toddler with the absolute power

[@authenticautistic2151]

It's canon that he is a literal baby.

[@DH-ns8ku]

That's what makes him so dangerous though. How many toddlers do you know that will do something unless they're forced too or there is something in it for them?

[@shiverbim4920]

Same like Zeno

[@GyromiteN64]

He not a baby I have prof

[@nancoppedge4019]

Mushroom Kingdom: We have 2 super-powerful plumbers. Minecraft: We have blocky superhuman. Inkwell Isle: We have the Devil. Dream Land: We have Kirby. Others: Oh, shoot.

[@pirilon78]

Matpat: KIRBY IS AN EVIL GOD OF HYPER DEATH kirby fans: yeah we know

[@newtrysans64]

I see a undertale référence You Go to heaven

[@keelanbarron928]

Good for them, i don't.

[@pirilon78]

@@keelanbarron928 ok

[@justafan9206]

True.

[@DevilBlanky]

this is my reaction lol (im kirby fan)

[@fakenoobgame]

What a madlad, uploading a video about Kirby on MAR10 day

[@Jumpman16]

Ikr

[@istoppedusingthisaccountsi408]

TheNoobGaming Lol

[@shawnanewlove2046]

I get it mar10=mario

[@wildstarfish3786]

@@shawnanewlove2046 you do do know capital i, lowercase L and the number 1 don't actually look like each other right

[@DrCartof]

@@shawnanewlove2046 very smart

[@swmybeloved]

Kirby fights for a strawberry shortcake. Me:Can relate

[@TaoScribble]

Swap shortcake for parfait and I can relate as well.

[@suricacato]

@@TaoScribble Game Theory more like game robery am I cright boys ?

[@inoueokaito]

i don't blame kirby i could just commit massacre if someone stole my cake

[@gavros9636]

I'd fight for a quiche but I just can't handle the responsibility.

[@nashiruu9027]

Comic Sans Erza*

[@LutherWilken32]

kirby: I'm just addicted to food kirby in game theory's eyes: 39 buried, 0 found...

[@JS-pq2tc]

This time, on "All the video game characters you played are evil"; Kirby

[@insertusernamehere8324]

Ye.

[@Hapymation]

POYO 😒

[@mkicon]

Dude just called Puyo Puyo a glorified candy crush... And we wonder why sega won't localize any Puyo titles to the West.

[@jwhite5008]

They tried in the past, it was not very effective...

[@thomased22legoyodagaming]

yeah wtf puyo puyo is great!

[@antimatter3084]

Every time someone calls Puyo Puyo a glorified candy crush, my faith in humanity drops.

[@tmvfan]

yeah didn't it come out before cc?

[@mkicon]

@@tmvfan yes, but also they're almost nothing alike

[@frnan8547]

Acording to Kirby canon, Kirby is basically a good void Edit: swapped dark matter with void, I realized my mistake, I’m sorry(although they are both kinda similar)

[@3GearsTurning]

That's not true or confirmed. The only character we got for a good dark matter is Gooey. Also you forget that Meta-Knight is the same species as Kirby

[@emperorender8201]

@@3GearsTurning Yeah, but there's an overwhelming amount of evidence that supports this idea.

[@lacuevadexavier]

Not a good dark matter, but a good Void

[@ProtoMekka]

@Nero Dark Matter is a race in kirby that is basically the result of negative energy from void, void is the origin of everything in the kirby universe

[@hollow1279]

3GearsTurning believe me, the last game give us a shitload of evidence to theorize he is a good Void (but yes, he can’t be dark matter cause dark matter is bad Void)

[@ProfessorPrel]

Matt, he is 8 years old. And his species is immortal, but reaching maturity when they are 250 years old. So in human years, he is less than 4. He is not a threat, he is just lacking a parental figure to teach him how to behave like a hero. He is the incarnetion of goodness. He just hasnt realised what goodness truly is yet

[@euaneduria7637]

bruh did you actually watch the video before commenting or not? i actually want to know

[@ProfessorPrel]

@@euaneduria7637 What excactly is the problem here?

[@oggaraggairoaawfauhaiu31_UN]

​@@euaneduria7637dude, did you even read the comment before replying here?

[@ZINCr_aka_Q]

That doesnt change that he is still capable of, and has committed, mass destruction.

[@imbuffysummers]

Mattpatt: Part 2 coming next week! _...meanwhile 2 weeks and 3 new videos later..._

[@ValnorSith]

A long while back, Pat stated he was aware we hate multi-part theory videos. This is why. Plenty of times he never bothers completing the theory and just leaves it hanging to jump to the next topic that catches his attention. I understand that with a successful monetized channel, you need to keep up with what is currently trending like the supposed bane of his existence, FNAF. But still, either commit to finishing a multi-part theory or don't bother doing multi-parters in the first place.

[@Sunlight_754]

Can already tell you ahead of time he’s going to talk about the already established theory about Kirby being a reincarnation of Void Termina after collecting purely good energy. At least that’s my assumption judging from what he says part 2 will be like

[@valustaaurc5222]

ValnorSith or that he needs to rephrase has theory because his theory got debunked by some guy in the comment section and a guy named Meteorz.

[@MT_Rift]

MORE FNAF LUL

[@lewatoaofair2522]

And he posted another Kirby theory! .......And it just asks how he flies.

[@John-rc3gt]

Me: Are any game protagonists actually good? Game theory: "Well yes but actually no."

[@Dragonime]

has he forgotten about undertale, pacifist route btw idk lol

[@VixXstazosJOB]

The Are... but no one is perfect. Not cause chars aren't perfect does that mean they're ultimately Evil

[@John-rc3gt]

@@VixXstazosJOB No they aren't all necessarily evil but they aren't necessarily good either. Some are more like a chaotic neutral.

[@spinnyboination7830]

Yes there is His name is Shuichi Saihara

[@SteveOnlin]

the only good one is the book worm worm thing

[@CanadianDan854]

Kirby is a Kirby. _end of discussion._

[@itsbunnz5295]

nO hES a AmiBA

[@eletof2299]

Yea

[@justdadoc9443]

@sebastian true owo

[@BrassFeline]

Yep

[@cough7576]

Well said

[@Studimus]

kirby: is the embodiment of pure positivity. also kirby: hi i do eat very yes mhm want human arm?

[@therealquade]

>glorified candy crush mod How DARE you insult puyo with that trash

[@NikkiJakey]

Yeah! Tell em!

[@remixtheidiot5771]

therealquade there was absolutely no taste in that joke as a fellow puyo popper myself.

[@tovi3280]

Puyo? Or POYOOOOOOOO

[@DRangerRed]

Anybody:*drops apple on kirby.Kirby:your free trial to mercy has ended

[@kittykaidoodles796]

Newton: *Gets hit by an apple* Oh, gravity is what pulls us downwards Kirby: *Gets hit by an apple* Gravity is what pulls all who stand before me into my endless maw.

[@trueblue1893]

Well to be fair, and this is the reason that I avoided asking for a Kirby game theory in he first place, Kirby is just a child. His actions honestly make sense. Kirby has the traits of a child too. He doesn’t really know what to do unless someone points him in the right direction. Good (like family would) or bad (like manipulative “friends” or strangers). That also explains why he has a one track mind. He only cares about what is important to HIM, and not others. Kirby, like a child, was acting based on incentive, like a kid getting good grades only to get the newest video game, not really thinking of his future. But he is still a hero, and he does try to do what’s right most of the time. Kirby is definitely good, but he is still learning. He just so happens to have a lot of wild power that most people are able to exploit for their own purposes.

[@CTFox69]

true

[@EdwinLopez-bw5du]

Agree

[@thomanator1000]

Couldn't word it better myself.

[@Aciarr]

i agree

[@SilverKirby789]

Yes

[@benjaminsable587]

The way you describing Kirby is more similar to SSVG5’s Kirby than Nintendo’s Kirby.

[@Eli-akad]

Well to be honest, Kirby is still considered a hero based on the fact that he does save the day. Nobody says a hero has to have everyone’s best interest at heart, however it is a good quality to have. The portion where u mention Kirby being concerned about his strawberry cake for example. There isn’t anything wrong with that, especially if in the end he still saves the day. His motives weren’t inherently evil or villainous so that’s a terrible example. Also the 4 times Kirby was misguided by the true main enemy wasn’t a good piece of evidence on ur end. Each scenario was different, so the fact that he was tricked those 4 times can’t be held against him in that sense. Maybe if it was the same exact plot being repeated then yeah I can see that logic. He merely is inadvertently aiding the enemy as they try to manipulate him. One last thing, ur taking player choice into account for this theory. Outside of boss battles, in most Kirby games u can choose to either kill or ignore most enemies in game. It’s all up to the player and how they choose to play in that moment.

[@ryanscott1680]

Well, to be honest, there are thousands of waddle dees that'll never make it home to their childeren. That's kirby's doing

[@ーテイル]

Stop with the "do not take into account what the player does" because that would literally go against the premise of the game. You can not absorb the power of an enemy without killing it. So you can not argue that killing or not is the player's decision when the main mechanic is to do it.- This is stupid...-

[@nikushimiumbra5464]

I agree.. i honestly think matpat is just doing anything he can in clickbaity way to make people think hes evil. Im pissed he mentioned the ending to dyna blade but not the part where kirby bonds with the chicks and teaches them how to fly and how to grow up. Like. Just because it wasnt convenient for him he just left it out. Most people that watch this probably arent as familiar with kirby and he is ACTIVELY misinforming people.

[@lancelindlelee7256]

A hero who isn't heroic. Looking at you Endeavor

[@Eli-akad]

Tarkanamastecito See that’s not the point, the point is that u can literally just ignore the enemy smart guy, I stated it plain an simple. U don’t have to worry about killing and enemy by absorbing them if u flat out don’t inhale them. It’s not hard to do in any Kirby level, so instead of tryna call me stupid, think critically.

[@mickeyboy6808]

Game Character: *Exists* Game Theory: Wait, That Illegal

[@blekiscooler]

Gayme*

[@athenaraptor5638]

Game

[@bobloblaw1021]

Game theory is like the police of video games huh

[@estherchoi5640]

In the anime series metaknight says that kirby was made by nightmare but kirby refused to be evil

[@3GearsTurning]

Anime is non-cannon to Kirby games. Also Meta-Knight is the same species as kirby

[@HunterAZR]

To be fair, either he is a reincarnation of a god of destruction or a creation of nightmares, both are equally scarry

[@TheMegaxPlus]

That could explain a lot, but it's not cannon

[@yusmillion]

for the canon games kirby is most likely a reincarnation of destruction. But for the non-canon anime kirby is a monster created from nightmare.

[@robertwillie9184]

Even though he's killed millions.

[@The_Shimp]

I’m pretty sure there were enough things to talk about to make a part 2, especially if you made it one of those videos that puts all the lore into a story near the end.

[@vampirex3607]

I swear he made a part two but maybe I’m just being Mandela effected right now

[@The_Shimp]

@@vampirex3607 he couldn’t find enough evidence for a part two so he made a different Kirby theory iirc

[@howtotorials244]

Kirby: *gets interrupted from his nap Kirby: *oh boy, here I go killing again!*

[@kykystars]

" *I understood that reference* "

[@derpyblu1651]

@@kykystars me too

[@pendantperuke9440]

Sonic for hire.

[@someone9018]

YES

[@AstrinsSpaceship]

*flashbacks to Super smash Bros brawl's version of gourmet race*

[@Mr_Mimestamp]

**flashbacks to Super Smash Bros Ultimate’s version of gourmet race**

[@zareffarhaan6106]

Oh my god.... it was telling us that all along.

[@ssquicyramenz]

Kirby isn't actually a baby-- He is a fetus

[@HTPCYMC]

So _this_ is what happened after World of Light...

[@gamingyoshifanatic4082]

*EVERY SOUL CONTAINS A WHISPER OF LIGHT*

[@cough7576]

Yep

[@cuedepie4376]

As a Kirby fan, I DECLINE this theory, as Kirby always gets the job done beating up eldritch gods, and even in Avalanche, he was just delivering ROAST AFTER ROAST.

[@GRosa-xw3rg]

The reason kirby is impulsive is because he’s canonically a kid, he’s also made from the same material as zero which is the main reoccurring energy antagonist, another instance of the same type of energy being good is gooey in dream land two, a sentient being apart from the pack that is zero.

[@Cicine59]

He is not made by the same material as zero, zero is made by dark matter which is pure negativity, totally not Kirby

[@SubtitleXD]

@@Cicine59 according to the lore, kirby is made of dark matter (from his connection to void who is made of dark matter) the difference between dark matter/void and kirby is that one was born with pure negativity and the other was born with pure positivity

[@veraslepoj2774]

"Kirby woke up before he could fully mature as a star warrior" ... He's a baby

[@Hiustwui]

@Non-Ugandan Knuckles Kirby is Boubou (dbz) of Hal Laboratories.

[@KingCobra2287-r1j]

Vera Slepoj he was awoken 200 years earlier (if we are going to use the anime as an example, even though it isn’t canon) than normal. He can’t speak, but can think a little bit. He has not matured fully during his training sleep as Octo-Khan (however you spell his name in Japanese) caused the Starship to go towards Planet Popstar and crash land in Dream Land. Like Meta Knight explained to Tiff in episode 3 of the anime. Kirby is the youngest, yet most powerful Star Warrior in the Galaxy Army as he can inhale his opponents and spit them out as stars or copy their abilities. Also like Meta Knight said, he is the “newest generation” of Star Warriors

[@KingCobra2287-r1j]

Non-Ugandan Knuckles yes I know the anime isn’t canon, but Kirby was created by Nightmare as an accident

[@cb2327]

He is a child, he is a baby in the anime not in the games

[@megarotom1590]

not canon, the anime isn't canon

[@WilliamAbelXIII]

Video Game Protagonist: *exists* MatPat: Interesting theory. Let's test it! *Adam Ruins Everything theme plays*

[@dimentio9833]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoWvgKOnnc6osMU

[@generalgrievous2202]

Tis tis tis twill come eventually young child

[@glitzicurities9075]

Darksyde4227 I absolutely adore Adam Ruins Everything!

[@leticiaalejandroperez6638]

@@dimentio9833. Oh, a video that doesn't disprove anything.

[@CorviKid999]

A theory that kirby IS a hero is found in Triple Deluxe, where Kirby goes out of his way to save King Dedede, not caring about cake, but instead about a friend. Planet Robobot has Kirby consuming evil mechanization, as he feels that it's HIS JOB to save the world. No ulterior motives here.

[@liamorpheus-diana]

Yeah but Kirby is a literal baby, so he doesn’t know any better. Also he could just be too trusting.

[@lolface_9363]

Liam Orpheus-Diana he’s a baby in the canon of the show

[@emperorender8201]

@@lolface_9363 But the show itself isn't canon

[@retridoti2506]

@@emperorender8201 while that is true, that does not mean that every aspect of the show isn't cannon, like kirby's age

[@MrMogi-zg2ud]

Emperor Ender , ya know what is? Kirby’s adventure manual, it calls Kirby a kid basically.

[@00ironskull]

Kirby is literally older then most of us

[@rainbowcat003]

*is Mario day* MatPat: *makes Kirby themed video* Me: ok, that makes sense.

[@jadata3496]

Rainbowcat003 :3 Lol. Also, not tryna be a grammar nazi, but I’m pretty sure it’s Mar10 day for March 10.

[@ivoryvt]

If you change 10 to roman numerals, the Mar10 day becomes MarX day.

[@synergeticsaiyan]

Wow same

[@matthewwilliams8267]

MARX DAY

[@turtlepie8346]

?

[@Moe__Jama]

The star and moon: *are fighting* Kirby: Strong force of evil: *is released* Kirby: Kirby's cake: *goes missing* Kirby: alright, imma bout to head out

[@Azeriiall]

Omar Elgamal Kirby: Ima bout to kill everyone for my cake!

[@Moe__Jama]

@Edwin Jimenez Aceves of corpse.

[@jonathanfunvideos3090]

*I'm about

[@agentj2012]

jonathan fun videos please don’t do this

[@xo3924]

Omar Elgamal that’s not his character

[@jaketaller8567]

Now that Matpat is retired, I really hope that Tom actually continues this theory someday. If not for the fans, I guarantee you he’ll do it for one of the series’ most fascinating topics, *THE LOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE!* Seriously, as a Kirby fan myself, I can tell you that the lore of this franchise goes really deep. From the mysterious beings known as the Ancients to the magical artifacts that they created like the Master Crown and Galactic Nova. Heck, the whole “Kirby is a god of destruction” thing is outright confirmed in Star Allies, when it’s stated that Void, the main villain of the game, is related to both Kirby and Dark Matter.

[@isauldron4337]

Lore is simple Dark matter Ancients shenanigans and freenemied

[@deadpool8344]

14:48 But here comes T series.

[@carlosjovel85]

Bitch lasagna

[@nayrrehcseir5827]

loll

[@rpergy6106]

"Kirby is an unstoppable god with no mercy" And that, kids, is why we play Kirby in Smash

[@LadyOnikara]

I prefer Meta Knight. He has cute wings and a spiffy sword.

[@Not_Eggs]

Kirby has no nerfs. Sakurai loves them too much. (In Japan kirbys gender isn’t confirmed)

[@happysatanproduction8854]

i dont really like to use kirby in smash because i dont use light characters. but whenever i use kirby, i obliterate

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

@@Not_Eggs but then again, everywhere else he’s male

[@sls12III]

Sakurai himself was so scared of his own creation that he decided to nerf Kirby to extreme lows.

[@bait1021]

1. Kirby did not directly cause every problem, Star Allies immediately comes to mind to support this. 2. After Kirby realized Dynablade was a mother, Kirby helped feed and raise her children (which you failed to mention/show). 3. The problems that Kirby DID cause occurred only because Kirby was manipulated by an evil character, Kirby originally intended to solve a different problem that had occurred ( Sun and Moon fighting, everyone being unable to dream, etc.), only to have the real villain swoop in and make things worse, which was able to happen not because Kirby didn't care to ask questions, but because 4. Kirby is canonically an INFANT, (which you also failed to mention/show) meaning he is physically incapable of distinguishing right from wrong, typically follows his instinct, and tends to prioritize food. Also, in Squeak Squad, Kirby probably assumed Dedede stole his cake because he knows Dedede has stolen food in the past. Anything I'm forgetting, comment section?

[@yoshikirby101]

Gabe Buehler In Kirby’s squeak squad, Daroach opens up the chest not Kirby. There is a lot of information from other Kirby games that Matpat leaves out

[@the6ofdiamonds]

Kirby 64: The crystal shards. Kirby gets sucked into the whole mess cause a crystal bops him on the head during what he thinks is a meteor shower. If you don't 100% the game, big bad possesses your fairy buddy's parent(?), if you do 100% the shards, the crystal expels the big bad as O2 (02?)... and basically without a second thought Kirby flys off to destroy Dark Star and the big bad. Sounds like an absolute *villain*, doesn't he. How dare he charge blindly into almost certain death for other people like that.

[@NyaRocks]

THANK YOU!

[@DanafoxyVixen]

"Kirby is canonically an INFANT" then he should be on a leach like a good puppy till he knows better

[@150belowzero]

Yeah, I find this theory really weak. One of the few that left me going "Really, Matt? Really? Come on now" and that is rare for me. There is just way too much reaching lol.

[@happykermit7221]

anyone else still looking for that part 2

[@happykermit7221]

@Sugalon com ah ok ty

[@Techytrash]

WHAT ABOUT ALLIES!??? HE IS JUST BEFRIENDING CUTE CHARACTERS!!

[@GameTheory]

Just wait for pt 2...

[@NotLawrence]

@@GameTheory hello

[@eclipsex1]

@@GameTheory Diabolical

[@saifeee871]

Ok Matpat

[@MysticTK]

His idea: "kirby is using his godly powers to enslave innocent people to make them fight for his cause"

[@fjr4406]

Kirby: literally a hungry mindless pink blob that does what it wants. No other description

[@Deman_Dema]

In short, a dumber and more selfish version of Majin Buu.

[@mjcgwmjcgw1522]

FrostFlame 74 More like Me hungry Me likey plants Me eatey plants Meanie boi hutededed me Me eatey him too Ooo look this boi give me food he good boi

[@Joltz9]

its only a 200 year old premature child, i think

[@Endeboi]

FrostFlame 74 but it’s cute so it’s all good

[@pikasol3641]

@@Joltz9 that's from the anime, right?

[@pipikyyy625]

He protecc He atacc But most importantly *u shall not touch his snacc*

[@WhosManIsThis]

And he S U C C

[@Johnaii_Steck]

He protecc He attacc But most importantly *He will swallow you like a snacc*

[@Tulip_bip]

u are his snacc

[@darthbiz2095]

TO KIRB, ALL IS FOOD

[@jakesamuel5197]

cuz its a good rhyme

[@robertrosas5007]

Part two!! Been waiting for 5 years!!

[@maxdunn4756]

I like the idea behind this theory, but there’s something I want to point out. Third person omniscient narrators literally said that he had a heroic heart, or something like that, in mass attack. Kirby probably is a reincarnation of zero/dark matter/void termina, but definetly not an evil one like them. More like gooey, most likely. I feel like it’s more of Kirby isn’t a very smart being since he’s a baby/child, so he makes mistakes, but will do everything possible to make up for this. So I would say Kirby is more of a chaotic good. Kirby has a pure heart, but mentally he doesn’t know how to tell who they can trust.

[@noel_21]

Mate Kirby burns creatures to death and looks at them as they suffer and die with a blank look on his face. He is a total psychopath!

[@razee3038]

@@noel_21 wait aren't you the one you controls kirby and I never seen kirby do that in the cutscenes so aren't you the one who is a psychopath

[@starflame3092]

I was thinking that throughout this entire video, I have heard someone say that Kirby is just a Toddler/Baby and will most likely jump to conclusions, until 200 years later when he is old enough to think and has true potential

[@starflame3092]

@@razee3038 Oh SHI-

[@starflame3092]

@@noel_21 Kirby is just a baby, until he is 200 years old

[@maddiecarney7577]

*Oh no! Dedede stole my strawberry shortcake! Gotta go destroy everyone* _kirby knowledge_

[@blockeontheleafeon]

Galeem and Dharkon are Destroying the World? Better Kill Everyone Before them so that I Can be the TRUE Villain of Smash!!!

[@MathMasterism]

Dedede: *does anything* Kirby: "Welp, time to burn down the kingdom again."

[@tricky2910]

m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJ2Zp6SGirKSfKc

[@PlasmaPea04]

alright i know it may seem like kirby jumps to conclusion and by that he is evil but think about it. Last time this guy stole all of the food in the kingdom and your cake has just been stolen. Dont forget kirby is still a baby. maybe you can see why he thought it was dedede

[@killercross9929]

He's just a baby

[@Lucky_Star778]

2:46 Beerus: who are you? Kirby:Poyo(im you but hungrier)

[@beetayeeta1353]

Acurate

[@Kittycat246.]

According to the actual lore of Kirby he was created by void after it encountered a large amount of positive energy/vibes. And Zero (a recurring enemy in the early games) was created by void after it encountered a large amount of negative energy/vibes

[@nightmare2750]

Mario is sociopath, link is dead, Kirby is a good of destruction. Next olimar is an evil dictator.

[@yt_MLM3]

@NICHOLAS WHITE I AGREE

[@scot913]

Not all links

[@fantasticmadness13]

NICHOLAS WHITE DAMN I WAS GONNA SAY THAT.

[@scot913]

Just oot

[@paperhatinc5641]

Now that's just a fact

[@Juggleboy]

Kirby truly is the definition of *chaotic neutral*

[@Kaleii08]

@Waldzwölfe idiotic puffball neutral

[@taytonium1908]

@LA CATRINA Juggleboy never said Kirby was a monster. That just wouldn’t make sense.

[@Vulpens]

I mean if people watched the show they would know kirby isnt technically from popstar

[@Vulpens]

Or what his original use was

[@taytonium1908]

Actually, the Kirby anime isn’t canon to the games.

[@TheCJBrine]

Kirby is naive, nearly completely pure, and doesn’t seem to fully understand the difference between good and evil; despite this, while it seems he may descend from the Dark Matter species, he chooses to be on the side of good when he finally realizes what’s going on.

[@goggles2698]

Dont forget he's also a child

[@TheCJBrine]

goggles that too :p

[@Metalguy40]

Pretty much my thoughts so far while watching this theory. I’ll wait for part 2 till full judgement, but so far it’s ok in some parts

[@swadlooner2385]

@@goggles2698 Well, that isn't entirely true since the anime isn't canon (if that was what you meant), but I would agree with CJ Brine. However, it hasn't be confirmed at least. I do want to mention that the U.S. did describe their Kirby as barbaric...

[@goggles2698]

@@swadlooner2385 ok seems legit

[@mistermadness677]

Hasn’t anyone found out that Kirby is only dreaming in every game because he’s stuck in an eternal sleep? The signs are obvious if you’ve seen the movie, and the name of the place he’s in.

[@aaronwright485]

What movie. Also Dreamland got its name from the dream fountain

[@saucechan9339]

Kirby is a god of destruction stuck in a frickin single celled baby. This makes total sense.

[@Aereto]

Well, the universe is full of powerful creatures, so...

[@bryanneblett3122]

*cough* MARX

[@bobdotexe]

TFW someone calls call puyo a Candy crush a "gloried candy crush mod" Puyo puyo: 1991 Candy Crush: 2012

[@miguelvalle898]

Wow I never thought of that... Well time to tell the world that there life is a lie

[@cantreed6214]

not to mention there's no setting up your board in cc. theres no tactics to how you prepare your chains in cc either (unless theres some godly candy crush meta I'm unaware of, in which case I'd love to hear it). nor any vs mode, fever mode, OR swordsman getting decapitated in any of the candy crush games. it's only face level.. =×=

[@sombrashibe]

That joke flew over your head...

[@rockman7perez]

@Tanner McCarty stop spamming that crappy video

[@DiamondBerry84]

TWF you completely miss the joke

[@maoistlily1432]

First Mario is a sociopath, then Peach as a ruler of parasitic mushroom, now Kirby is evil... Next you'll tell me that Rosalina wants to destroy the universe... (no, but really cool episode) :)

[@sanswithagun7368]

dont give matpat new ideas

[@lowlydoesstuff]

Then toad is a evil mushroom that ends reality

[@ToxicDom-ph9xo]

That would make sense

[@ToxicPea]

To be frank, Matpat is right about Kirby being an incarnated god of destruction. However, Matpat purposely left out the fact that Kirby had developed a conscience that has made itself visible in Kirby's motives in Triple Deluxe and Robobot, most likely thanks to his past adventures.

[@angeldude101]

She doesn't _want_ to, she just does it when she needs to.

[@skddlls759]

What do you mean " HE chooses to kill everyone"? you can leave all the creatures alone. Its up to the player not Kirby! He only kills the bosses that block his path not allowing him to proceed.

[@gypsyrose7168]

Yeah Kirby is just a vessel for the player to possess like Kris from deltarune

[@erissonsantos1629]

but hey what about the other games : amazing mirror: he sees that something is not right in the mirror world and goes investigate it. canvas curse: kirby sees the threat that drawcia is and he (or it or ... whatever) doesn't have any personal reasons to save the day. kirby mass attack: once again, he dont have any personal reasons, it is quite clear what the situation is like. triple deluxe: ooookkk, initially he thought the dream stalk(forgive me if i'm wrong with these words) was work of dedede, but he imediatly see that it was not not the king's fault and actually, kirby goes rescuing him after taranza kidnapped him. planet robobot: it's clear that something wasn't right on popstar, so kirby went to solve the problem. star allies: he notices something strange in dedede's castle and go invetigate it, and eventually, going after the jamba hearts. and the fact he is easily manipulated by the villains and being really stubborn is because he's a child minded being... but this dont' make him a person who just think on himself, he can act like this sometimes like in squeak squad, but, as i said, he's really a child, and actually, he's very friendly in peace times, with a lot of friends he made trough the series. PS: this may not make sense, but if something hurts you it's because it is dangerous or it's your enemy, get what i mean? but either way good job with this video and channel, love your work.

[@teahhh9813]

Kirby fandom: OUT OF THIS HOUSE, *OUT OF THIS HOUSE*

[@avokirby9149]

help me Exactly

[@KJ-on6eg]

Agreed

[@HoneyBee40402]

Lol

[@rogankane6901]

So true

[@nuibaba280]

C E A S E

[@cyan.6399]

4:01 Would like to note that Kirby literally smacked Dedede in the face with a holy weapon to get him off.

[@Lillybonnet22]

The real equivalent would be a jesus bitch slap

[@catnat6571]

Would also like to note that Dedede had just finished fighting Kirby in a fight to the death.

[@funmaniacman462]

Hey MatPat! I would LOOOOOOOVE to see a video where you establish who exactly boos, ghosts, king boo, and specifically Helen Gravely was before they died and turned into Ghosts. Thanks.

[@Joemame]

Hey GT, I have a theory/question. How does Planet Popstar remain in its shape without it collapsing into a sphere, and if it is small enough to be irregular in shape, how does it keep its atmosphere? Could you possibly make a theory about this?

[@imbob99999]

Science

[@vivianabecerra576]

their smol

[@kirbyofthestarsfan]

My theory: It's a blue spherical planet (as shown in DL2/RTDL/Robobot), but covered in a huge cloud of stardust that gives it its Star shape, while the inside remains a blue spherical planet. And it's better to take any times anything lands on the planet like a flat surface, it's just artists having fun.

[@eggsauce1934]

I think it is because of the rings around the planet move in such a way and at such a speed that the g force or whatever that the planet is continuously held in its shape.

[@zanzibar0greebly]

its called game logic.

[@Chris_Pickaxe]

MatPat: It's over, *Kirby* I have the high ground. Kirby: You underestimate my power!

[@GreenyNeko]

Kirby: Poyo!

[@coolcarlgaming2005]

It’s over! I have the moral high ground!

[@Xigzagamer]

*Kirby inhales* *MatPat no longer has the high ground* *Kirby transforms* "but that's just a theory a game theory!"

[@mrFox45150]

kirby: *SUCC*

[@EldritchDoodler4828]

“Reincarnated God Of Destruction” *Kirby, Destroyer from the 17th Universe.* (Hopefully someone gets this DBS reference)

[@chat2807]

lol

[@ghostofdoom1941]

Love it haha

[@stevewilson6135]

Ha

[@nuclear9929]

I get it. lol

[@IXland.]

Looooooooveeeee iiiiiittttt

[@lasercraft32]

7:28 Dedede has LITERALLY done this before. Its not that big of a stretch for Kirby to assume he'd do it again.

[@NoName_Raiden]

Smash ultimate even points out that kirby is "The pink demon" in one of the stages lol

[@thecavitymann2587]

Is that reference to man on the internet?

[@mr.cup6yearsago211]

Cavity Man it is not, as Smash Ultimate was released before MoTI released their Marx song.

[@thecavitymann2587]

✌️

[@shrikey9192]

Scribbs yeah in the punch out stage

[@starflame3092]

Lmao

[@jameskarg3240]

To Kirbys deffence He literally a baby. Canonically, he wasent supppsed to wake up for another thousand years as a fully formwd Star Warrior. Meta Knight its sort of what Kirby would be, fully matured and grown. He seems mindless, sort of because he almost is, the same as most infabts. They dont ask, they just...do.

[@martianmadwoman]

can we even call the show canon

[@koolkidgamr6260]

The show isn't canon m8, auto debunk

[@moon4236]

I think thats just in the anime. If I remember correctly, in the games (the manual of the first I think) he is described as a young boy and in some games he talks. So not and adult but not a baby either.

[@pigglesgoomshby7249]

Moon 42 Still tho kids dont know much either

[@cookiebot2342]

Not saying anything about you as a person, but you are literally attempting to justify mass murder. I know its fictional, but still...

[@maxshramuk661]

*Note: The bottom has Star Allies spoilers* I do understand the point of this theory and I don't disagree. However, there are a few things: You misunderstand Adventure's plot. Yes, the removal of the star rod prevented Nightmare from appearing, but the removal of the Star Rod also caused dreams to disappear. Thus, Kirby saw this as a problem and fixed it. A breakdown in communication caused the plot to develop in the way it did; as far as Kirby was concerned, he was bringing dreams back to Dream Land. For Milky Way Wishes, what else are you going to do if your planet was threatened like that? Someone had a plan that Kirby decided to follow. Now truth be told, everyone should stop using the ancients to solve their problem, but he still did it to solve the problem. For Dyna Blade, he fought Dyna Blade to stop the damage she was causing Dream Land. With impulsiveness, I'm surprised you're using Epic Yarn considering how Yin Yarn's invasion was only just rumors at that point (even King Dedede didn't realize until after it was too late, which you don't bring up), and when he got sucked into the yarn world, he immediately tried to fix the problems present. If you wanted to use a spinoff for this purpose, Kirby and the Rainbow Curse would have been a better choice, as it's implied his motivation was more of an apple. That entire part ignores Triple Deluxe, which he rescues King Dedede for no reason other than they're friends; Dream Land, which Kirby brings the food back because it's the right thing to do; Spring Breeze, which is the same as Dream Land; Planet Robobot, which Kirby is late to only because he was sleeping and he didn't realize that Haltmann's works was invading until after they already did; Kirby 64, which Ribbon convinces Kirby to save her planet; the ending of Heroes in Another Dimension, in which he willingly purifies all the antagonists for no reason other than he's a nice guy; and the main story for Star Allies, which (if I recall) also features Dedede stealing food (although this time it's because he's under Void Termina's influence) Also, with Return to Dream Land, King Dedede, Meta Knight, and Bandana Waddle Dee are shown to help out Magolor just as willingly. You really can't use that as a point against him and later talk about how King Dede and Meta Knight are both comparatively mature if they all did the same action. Also, while you're right for the most part with Squeak Squad, Daroach was the one who planned on and eventually did let Dark Nebula out. Kirby didn't have much to do with unsealing him. That said, Kirby is more "chaotic good" than "chaotic neutral" like suggested. It's true that he does cause quite a bit of chaos/destruction and resorts to violence first, but given his understanding of each situation, he was in the right. If this theory is going where I think it is, then Kirby's not a reincarnation of Void Termina but more of an alternate version of him, just exposed to the energy of positive emotions (vs. Dark Matter's negative emotions). As such, by definition, even though he's naive and does resort to violence first, he's a good character. If only a bit chaotic (which makes sense considering void termina)

[@thomased22legoyodagaming]

yeah dudes as soon as another youtuber makes a theory (srry i forgot witch one did the positive termina theory ) he just adds super clickbate crap and splits it into 2 parts to make 2 times the revenue what happened to MP he used to be so good with original theory's and much less clickbate

[@-toxicforyou-4771]

Matpat. You DON'T understand. Kirby is naive, a child. Which mean that's he's not THAT intelligent. He's just being manipulated.

[@ethanrobertson8847]

0:55 Scarfies can't be inhaled therefore your theory is incorrect.

[@jacknewton921]

Who told you to speak

[@littletyrunt4345]

Actually he has a point Unless you bring in the super Nova berry

[@barthol9776]

Stealing my comment before i even wrote it

[@churupinha3510]

12:24 Also no one knows if he was actually smilling at that scene, incorrect theory.

[@valentine19]

All in favor of agreeing with this comment say "I" I'll start. "I."

[@ShursGarden]

Some rebuttals 1. Kirby's an infant, of course he wouldn't ask questions. His perception of the world is very black and white. 2. Magalor wasn't really a villain. He was corrupted by the power of the Master Crown. You know this from his appearances in Dream Collection and that one free game they released as an expansion of the side mode from Robobot. 3. If you look on Magalor's screen when he's saying "Hey, go become Dragonborn," it's showing a very clear reason why he should fight. Landia shot down the Starcutter. Magalor's lying does not mean Kirby's the villain. 4. Dedede has stolen ALL the food in Dream Land 5. The Halberd is a war machine.

[@scroogemcfyuck8110]

And Kirby doesn't eat the posessed people in Dream Land 3, he can't eat bosses and all he does to them is exorcise them.

[@hollow1279]

Shurikens Miner Fist, it’s only stated that he is an infant in the anime, which is not canon. And of course Magolor was evil, he stated in the EX mode of Kirby Return to Dreamland that the Master Crown Can allow you to conquer the universe (but yes, you’re right about the crown corrupting him).

[@DD-ur4nw]

A game theorie

[@ShursGarden]

@@hollow1279 Honestly, I treat the Anime as Schrodinger's Canon. If it fits in the games, it's canon. If not, it's not. However, the Anime also shaped the series as we know it. The title logo of most of the games is based off of the Anime's logo. And most things about Kirby are brought over as well. One of the most major things being his infantile mannerisms. He can't really talk (with only a few examples after the Anime's airing, since Avalanche isn't really canon, considering it's really just Puyo Puyo), only making basic sounds.

[@ICHGArmy]

Also: mentioning that he is a child, kirby doesn't have a clear understanding of what death is, or murder for that matter. He may be a force of destruction, but he doesnt really understand what ue's doing.

[@hellofreeze3772]

*Mentions how Kirby fell for Magolor, Marx, Dark Nebula and Nightmare's tricks* *Fails to mention how in Kirby 64 if Kirby didn't automatically trust Ribbon and then pull together the crystal shards, Zero two would have destroyed the universe* There fixed it

[@jacobsegura5478]

I also do believe Kirby is a baby. So I don't think he's supposed to be terribly smart.

[@danielleharland8492]

He's in the grey zone in my eyes.

[@eiplays2768]

Kirby is three years of age as well so he wouldn't know

[@uberboat4512]

He didn't say evil. Just that he's a threat and destructive

[@tailsprower8118]

Jacob Segura he’s either a baby or an uneducated child

[@kingdededeeznuts9384]

1:21 Happens ever Tuesday by this point 3:51 That dair Kirby never listens 11:38 I am heroic

[@lady_nuggetz]

Video Game Protagonist: Game Theory: S A T A N

[@albeitstrange1712]

Man

[@miguelquintero1538]

@@albeitstrange1712 oh yeah yeah

[@M1RACLEWEAVER]

Useless side character: Matpat: NESS!

[@LadyRobin03]

Protagonist does NOT equal good. They can also be evil in some cases.

[@metaknight115]

@@LadyRobin03 kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZS7oYRrjLiKfsk

[@duders307]

everyone is pointing out matpat's mistakes about kirby lore, so i'm gonna point out something: chaotic nuetral, is NOT EVIL. edit: i was just pointing out that nuetral is not evil. i mean, animals are nuetral, and some of them are can be dangerous, do we consider them evil? no, we know they're not smart enough to be evil, they're just.. well, animals. kirby's the same way, except in his case, he atleast is TRYING to be good. heck, i consider him chaotic-good just 'cause he's trying to be good, he's just... not a very good judge of character. sidenote: woah. 255 likes?? wow.. first time i've ever gotten that many... thanks folks! :D

[@ZizZap4]

Eric Thompson like it’s not implied by that clickbait title and thumbnail, or how the description basically says he’s only in it for himself?

[@rob98000]

@@ZizZap4 chaotic neutral can be a villain, plus it means you don't align with either side, only yourself.

[@runningoncylinders3829]

Evil can be good depending on your cognition of ethics and a cost-benefit analysis of how it'll impact those close to you. Am I a more of a "Chaotic Neutral" or a "Lawful Neutral" if I proudly proclaimed morality to be subjective? (Or am I simply evil? Food for thought... Yum food!)

[@catnat6571]

@@rob98000 However it has been shown many times that Kirby has done many things for others. His whole goal is to protect the people of Planet Popstar. Even if he does...wrong things, he only does them because he is manipulated due to his sheer naivety and kind nature. Neutral Evil should only be in it for themselves, but Kirby is clearly not in it for himself.

[@rosebrigade]

I can get behind Chaotic Neutral. but a toddler can be considered chaotic neutral since it does pretty much the same things kirby does..in character sense.

[@pct87]

You’re ignoring a very important factor tho, strawberry cake is delicious.

[@Takt.mp4]

Finally a reasonable commemt

[@razee3038]

Yes

[@colinflower964]

E

[@Mike_Dubo]

This comment approved by Ezra Scarlet.

[@StevenKR]

In the Kirby movie, I think they say something similar - that Kirby was actually made by E.N.E.M.Y but crashed onto dreamland. Meta Knight thought he was going to grow up to become a star warrior so he helps train him. In the movie Kirby has to choose to defeat Nightmare and the organization, or abandon his friends for his selfish impulses.

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

NME didn't make kirby, they made meta knight.

[@patchy2758]

It’s canon that the Halberd’s crew escaped when the ship was going down, Captain Vul mentioned it more than once during the dialog... And it was Daroach who released Dark Nebula, not Kirby.

[@FervorGaming]

But the the knowledge of Kirby it's not. The narrator says it to the players the all Kirby see is a ship full of people dying sir.

[@lenarmangum7127]

Grim Reactions What?!!!...

[@kirbythevoidslayer2570]

hi!

[@ProtoCJ]

but hey that’s just a theory a Kirby theory

[@kirbythevoidslayer2570]

GamingSins Boy

[@DaNintendude]

*Kirby's Adventure.* He didn't know he was unleashing the evil, but Meta Knight supposedly did and supported it. Dedede may have tried to save everyone, but destroying Nightmare and going back to having pleasant dreams needed to happen. Kirby may have unleashed him, but he needed to to bring back the dreams to dreamland. *Kirby's Return to Dreamland* There was no way for Kirby, nor his friends to know what was happening. Although it was a huge mistake, the end result was making a new friend in Magalor, as well as destroying the Master Crown for good. *Kirby Super Star* Destorying Nova isn't necessarily a bad thing. We've seen from both Super Star and Robobot that clockwork stars have no morals. They are willing to help the bad guy. Star Dream specifically misinterprets Haltmann's wishes and tries to destroy the universe. *Squeak Squad* Squeak Squad's story was honestly pretty bad. Everyone was uncharacteristic of themselves. Especially Meta Knight, who went from barely knowing Kirby in Adventure, yet training him to fight Nightmare, to trying to hide Dark Nebula with no explanation. He doesn't explain that it's an evil power that must be stopped, or prevented from escaping, he just swipes the chest and runs away. Let's chalk this up as a bad day for everyone. also, not to mention that Kirby himself didn't open the chest, the Squeak Squad did. Meaning if Kirby didn't get involved, Dark Nebula would've escaped anyways, and Kirby would have to jump into action without the experience of the adventure that he went through in the actual story. The argument that Kirby has to be forced to do anything is flawed. Dedede isn't forcing Kirby to help, he is aiding Kirby's fight back. Kirby was shocked, but Dedede calmed down enough to snap him back into it. In Meta Knight's Revenge, Kirby destroys the halberd, but... everyone escapes. The only harm done is the Halberd is gone. Meta Knight's plan failed, but in the end, he probably saw how Dreamland isn't as lazy as he thought they were. It was almost like a test to see if they were willing to fight for their freedom. The credits of Revenge of Meta Knight is very different from the rest of the Super Star sub-games. Instead of credits, we get a showcase of all of the helpers that can help Kirby on his quest. Kirby didn't do this alone, he used the help of his friends to save the day. Proving to Meta Knight that he was wrong, and that Dreamland is not helpless. Kirby's Avalanche is likely not canon. it's just a skin of puyo puyo with throwaway dialogue. as far as we know, none of the normal enemies in Dreamland 3 were possessed. They probably weren't. they were actively attacking Kirby. Sure one of the biggest flaws with any of this is that Kirby is willing ot attack helpless Waddle Dees who aren't even attacking, but that's the player's choice, and when it is forced, it's usually for humor. I doubt Kirby would actually go on a killing spree. Dyna Blade is at fault for ravaging Dream Land. Kirby is also at fault for fighting back. But as we see in the end, if Dyna Blade would've just asked for help, Kirby would've been happy to help. I'm sure part 2 will be better, as it will delve into a subject that doesn't have much information yet in canon lore... Void Termina. I think Mat Pat is stretching far too much, but it'll be interesting to see how he feels about Void.

[@tomodell382]

Da Nintendude who is going to reed this tho

[@gaminglakitu]

You beat my same opinion to the point

[@kayekirkland6942]

You have no idea how relieving it is to look in a Game Theory's comments and seeing someone who knows about the game lay out exactly what gave you an aneurysm while watching. Kudos to you, ya madman.

[@puppymoe]

AGNWHVkqgmwjavwm thank you for making this comment I was getting a little irritated with Matpats explanations since he didn’t go in full depth

[@tastethepainbow]

Nice write up. Sadly, Matpat does what he always does and demonize every protagonist for the sake of clicks while overlooking key details.

[@Your_Kaimana]

Matpat : Its just a theory! Everyone: *Takes It Seriously*

[@lowthomas7787]

Yep

[@lyletheunamusedgryphon1445]

That's not how theories work

[@henrysrandomcontentx4002]

Zoop Poop nice name

[@Your_Kaimana]

Got it from my ancestors and my great great gamma

[@woah629]

Lyle the unamused Gryphon that’s the joke.