Game Theory: Dear Nintendo, I FIXED Your Timeline! (Zelda)

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I've been theorizing about Zelda for a LONG time! Since the beginning of Game Theory, I've tried to figure out all the ins and outs; all the ifs and maybes. Today we return to the Zelda timeline because I have finally SOLVED it! I have found the MISSING Link in this whole mess of a timeline that makes everything work! Strap in Theorists, this may be our biggest breakthrough yet!
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Writers: Matthew Patrick and Alan Baker
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[@TimePavement]

MatPat: "Ruining your childhood since 2011" Me: "You are my childhood."

[@Jlipper]

Love him or hate him, he is spitting straight facts.

[@UnsightlyComplightly]

SAME even though I didn't know him at the time, apparently my six year old self didn't know what KZbin was

[@johnyliltoe]

Oh god, I feel old...

[@samuelsanders4078]

@@Water_Me_Loan_64_YT don't. just don't.

[@hamzakhurram6028]

❤️❤️

[@shaqjuice420]

Link: I've finally killed Ganon once and for all. Ganon: Yes you did. Link: what Ganon: what

[@vinn8710]

lol

[@angryrat7423]

Hehe

[@kronker1749]

lol

[@sergevictoryyt]

Me: what

[@shaqjuice420]

@@shameemkawsar2162 see now if I had said something like this is my original comment I would see why your comment was necessary but people copy and paste all the time lol, does it even really matter? "Stole" lol I stole words

[@theleviathan3902]

Fools, everybody knows that LoZ monopoly is the pin that holds it all together

[@LegendPoor]

Fool actually its zelda uno

[@nothingtoseehere5829]

You are both fools! The official LoZ board game is the glue keeping the timelines together.

[@Jackbarrany]

All of you, Fools! It’s the 2002 Zelda Burger king toy that makes sense of everything!

[@ratgaming5562]

You’re all fools! It’s Brian David Gilbert

[@funnyvalentine5638]

How foolish of all you to belive that a random zelda sticker from a dodgey website is the true thing sticking this timeline together!

[@teukukeanu3078]

Matpat: “on the happier side of the timeline, we have Majora's mask and twilight princess” Me: ah, yes. The two most wholesome games in LoZ: MM and TP

[@Rizal_R_]

😂

[@lifeofpoppie7267]

Ahh yes

[@lifeofpoppie7267]

That's rich

[@alpha00z26]

the moon crashing isn't wholesome? i mast have accidently read antonyms instead of defenition

[@NovaMaster375]

Well, MM does contain the best, most wholesome marriage scene...

[@casualverse]

Nintendo: "Very good Matpat but you're missing one key piece of evidence." Matpat: "And that is...?" Nintendo: "No."

[@shadowlujiaxrenewed]

Lol that's what I was thinking

[@jooniethebest3709]

Exactly

[@tytbmbutterboi6664]

Us: Can we get better SSBU online? Nintendo:

[@polodoesthings395]

What I was thinking as well because most of this could just be coincidence

[@hellointernet2276]

BDG: LEGEND OF ZELDA MONOPOLY

[@TheHuskyK9]

Nintendo: "Hyrule Warriors is not canon" MatPat: "Yes but actually no."

[@ShadwSonic]

Or more accurately, "But thou must!". Ironically, that assertion actually makes me seriously consider getting it, whereas before the different playstyle had me giving it a pass. Canon coaxes coin, I suppose.

[@dwigttaylor3544]

Nintendo: here are the ONLY games that you’re allowed to make a timeline with Matpat: but are they?

[@hakzource8660]

You got the meme wrong, nice

[@adriannaranjo4397]

*No, but actually yes

[@averageskeletonremover2415]

I am the rarest human, for I have played that game AND own a wii u

[@clplayz6344]

This fits so well with TOTK. The secret stone ganon steals in TOTK is shown in here during TP.

[@SugarSpice07]

If the timeline changes based on the player's imagination, then my imagination says that Matpat's timeline is the correct one.

[@MaggieCandy999]

I seconded it! ✋🏻

[@jakariashafin1695]

I third it.

[@danielled8665]

That has some horrifying implications for Link and Gannon, given what some fans have created in the fanfiction category.

[@morthurarrgan]

The KZbin channel Zelda Lore made a Zelda Timeline and that’s my new head canon

[@jakariashafin1695]

@@morthurarrgan interesting I'll probably check it out later.

[@TodosLocosOfficial]

How MatPat converged the timelines: Hyrule Warriors How Brian David Gilbert converged the timelines: LEGEND OF ZELDA MONOPOLY!

[@TheFranciscoFm]

You, my friend, are a man of culture

[@charlottesharp9485]

Matpat: Downfall Timeline BDG: basketball

[@zackarieneifert7014]

We don't need the the books to figure out the timeline. Brian David Gilbert did it for us

[@dandanlec1996]

I just watche the video, there was monopoly

[@devcrom3]

Link either IS god or can KILL god and I DON'T CARE IF THERE'S A DIFFERENCE!

[@HetIsLennertWeer]

MatPat: I fixed the Zelda timeline! Me: Waiting for a new Zelda game to come out so he can start all over again.

[@a_cowwithlegs]

Also me: BOTW 2

[@redwidow1358]

He's already screwed up since Breath of the Wild is at the end, with all three timelines converging onto it, implying that a Breath of the Wild happens in every possible scenario. I'm gonna enjoy watching the next several Zelda theories.

[@chrisschoenthaler5184]

daffy duck How exactly did he “screw up”? This entire video was an explanation of HOW Breath of the Wild could possibly be the culmination of three separate timelines.

[@UltimateKyuubiFox]

daffy duck Your comment does nothing to disprove MatPat’s assertions. You’ve simple stated something he agrees with and then pretended it wasn’t expressly part of his conclusion.

[@tmmaster6904]

@@redwidow1358 You sound like the critics reviewing the new Godzilla movie, you said nothing of value and are completely wrong

[@heliummaster6628]

he should really come back to this theory, since age of calamity was released.

[@emeralddragon2980]

I don't think it really changes too much from this theory. Yes, AoC makes two new timelines, but they're still after Hyrule Warriors Classic, which is what unite the three original timelines back into one.

[@ilikefood4482]

Maybe he’ll make a new one after Tears of the Kingdom comes out in may

[@cronkus]

@@ilikefood4482 doubt it. Nintendo has been on a war path and with the wellness of a wife, child, and whole company to look after, something tells me it’s not worth the strikes. But who knows, he might. But tears is also being theorized to be the last in the cycle. The 2 theories are the cycle is gonna be reset and everything returns to the sky or the cycle will be broken and Ganondorf fights his calamity self along side link and Zelda. I’m expecting the former, hoping for the latter.

[@ramonandrajo6348]

@@emeralddragon2980 True.

[@Insert_Bland_Name_Here]

Link's Awakening taking place after the Oracle games makes a lot more sense than placing it before. In the finale of a linked game in the Oracle games, Link sets out to sea. Link's awakening starts out with Link being out at sea, sailing into a storm and getting shipwrecked. They just tie together perfectly this way.

[@Thor-Orion]

This is the only thing that makes sense

[@dranz8125]

It should also be noted that in the original Japanese manual, its stated in Link's Awakening, that Link was returning from his journey of adventure in foreign nations. Like, it came out first, but they set it up perfectly to take place after the oracle games.

[@corpsekid5951]

Matpat: I fixed the timeline!!! *Brian David Gilbert would like to know your location*

[@SJohann]

We need that Game Theory/Polygon crossover.

[@falpsdsqglthnsac]

LoZ Monopoly should be canon.

[@Joyce-xi1di]

Wheres the basketball timeline??

[@aeinzalot]

MatPat: I fixed the Zelda timeline! Me: *Hey I’ve seen this one before! It’s a classic!*

[@kyubeyz_7062]

Congrats you’re getting likes by the second

[@JD-iv9ol]

Yeah BDG is the best

[@TheKpa11]

*raises hand* Multiverse

[@dragonsuper6195]

Hey but what about Mat suffering for FNAF

[@juholempiainen3767]

@@kyubeyz_7062 what do you mean you've seen it it's brand new

[@lordmalachi6]

Hoping we get an update to this with Tears of the Kingdom out and involving its shenanigans.

[@felipefroehnerteixeira4777]

Man i hope you arent to upset

[@Froggycolouring]

Well that’s basically just right after botw, since it was gonna be a dlc for it originally and all the characters even remember link from botw, unless they release another game

[@Totomy2011]

@@Froggycolouringno but the backstory of totk screws everything up

[@RetroSetJoe]

I know it's been like... 2.5 years from when this came out BUT... The Zora in the downfall timeline are two separate species: River Zora and Ocean Zora. I want to say it's explained in one of the Oracle games... Love what you do Matt!

[@dablindscooter1973]

it is explained in oracle of ages i was abt to comment this

[@Phatnaru0002]

The thing is though, Breath of the Wild also canonically features Majora's Mask and the Fierce Deity's Mask, with the power inside them gone. At least so far as we know, this has only ever happened in the child timeline.

[@maestro0798]

I can almost imagine people at Nintendo going: Hah, didn't think of that... Lets go with that one :')

[@silenal2885]

Nintendo: **releases a new book because of the timeline**

[@urgae9125]

You know Nintendo will. It’s too easy

[@amuzarill423]

It's a cool theory but hyrule warriors arent canon.

[@ninjamage5215]

Amuzarill Matpat is making the case for Nintendo to make it canon to solve the timeline.... based on the evidence. You missed the point

[@TheMazrem]

@@amuzarill423 If Link Get's a ChooChoo is cannon, I'm going to say Link and Cia's Excellent Adventure is cannon.

[@liammcnicholas918]

Nintendo: Hyrule Warriors is a spin-off MatPat: Well yes, but actually no

[@todddempsey1277]

That's Matpat.

[@Sebas-bs8uk]

UNO REVERSE CARD!

[@SkyShadows-ik5vu]

Yes, just yes

[@video_watcher9252]

it is a spinoff regardless of this theory. Spinoffs an be canon.

[@MrShellbuster]

@@video_watcher9252 considering it littertily is about a time keeper and merges the time lines at various points of their respective games story... like oot was after the hero of time.

[@synthwolfe8906]

Just wanted to mention that the zora are physically far more varied in both color and shape in BOTW than any other single game. As such, it's possible that particular feature could be a hold over from when they were monsters and enemies of hylians.

[@dafilmqueen556]

Not to mention, in Breath Of The Wild, King Dorephan seems to be non hostile towards Link, but his advisor Muzu (whom I've heard gamer Andrew from The Andrew Collette Show jokingly call Stingray face. I love that guy, a married gamer who happens to be a father and an editor with a sense of humor? A KZbin gamer after my own heart 😂❤) clearly has disdain towards Link as well as untrusting of most Hylians, only relenting to trust Link after Prince Sidon proves that Link's Zora armor was made by Princess Mipha specifically for Link (whom she had an unrequited crush on, poor girl). If that doesn't give an indication that the timeline is mashed up, I don't know what does..

[@horaceshear2294]

I think you're right on point . This video blew my freaking mind

[@Miisee]

Kinda wish BOTW had a human form of Ganon.....wait.... *remembers BOTW 2 reveal* NEVERMIND.

[@voltrainer]

It also quite literally fits into the theory

[@magictriangle6878]

Yeah, the crown and long hair checks out.

[@obi-wank-enobi]

Matpat: IVE SOLVED THE TIMELINE!! Nintendo: He knows too much hit the shuffle button again

[@insertusernamehere8324]

TRU DAT!!!!

[@alucozadebottle4423]

I'm about to make you angry Read more

[@obi-wank-enobi]

@@alucozadebottle4423 how dare you post such trickery on my comment I have been trying to press the read more button for the past 5 minutes

[@s3dsd840]

Playboy Piccolo same 😂

[@obi-wank-enobi]

Dammit who liked the video unlike it this instant!

[@JMFSpike]

When Nintendo revealed a couple of decades ago that there was a timeline, I think what they meant was that there was "somewhat" of a timeline. Basically, some games are direct sequels and fit together well. Where the "somewhat" comes in is that some games are unrelated to any other game, and in that case Nintendo tries to force a connection. They do that by saying the game takes place many generations after some other game they choose to force a connection to, and also by making up events that supposedly happened in-between the 2 games that there is no game for. I believe the above is also what Nintendo has been trying to tell us over the last few years or so, only they're clearly not being as straightforward about it as I was. You said it yourself in the video, that this "we want fans to come up with their own interpretations" thing is being said because they themselves don't really know. They did their best to try and piece it all together in a way that makes sense, but they know it's very imperfect because their main concern has never been the timeline. Sometimes they just want to make a Zelda game, and they probably feel that trying too hard to make it connect to other games restricts them in what they can do creatively.

[@imagomonkei]

Now that AoC is out, this theory grows even stronger. Specifically, the final unlock of the game is the tunic set from HW. That settles it in my mind. I hope the DLC brings back Linkle.

[@Edelsteinsammler]

Matpat: ah yes the first timeline, the downfall timeline BDG: SO OVER HERE IN BASKETBALL...

[@greenhn1948]

Schwachsinn IYKYK

[@-dennis3755]

BDG MVP

[@faye1957]

Matpat: “I solved the entire Zelda timeline with Hyrule Warriors.” Bdg: “Hold my Skyrim Book Report.”

[@syndere6755]

*Gets crushed by enormous book*

[@BathsHeartbreaker]

was hoping id see a bdg comment, thank you

[@faye1957]

goochambers no problemo my dude

[@TheChaoticAsexual]

It’s Zelda monopoly

[@scotmelton2053]

*SKYRIM BOOK REPORRRRT*

[@joshuamorton3487]

There is actually a lot more evidence that Hyrule was once a great sea in BotW then just rock salt. There are giant skeletons of once ocean dwelling leviathans all over the place.

[@DrDolan2000]

But how do we know they're from the ocean? There was also a leviathan of the skies: Levias Maybe these same leviathans are the same creatures as him. But when they died, they fell to the surface

[@bunsenn5064]

Here’s my theory. Nintendo makes references to every timeline of Zelda in the Breath of the Wild game for a reason. Supposedly, the whole timeline takes place over 10,000 years ago, in an era Breath of the Wild calls the “Era of Myth”. It could be said that the reason all these timelines are present is because Breath of the Wild is so far ahead in the future that the earlier entries in the timeline all occur in the Era of Myth, so far in the past that Breath of the Wild practically becomes its own new story. It’s actually something that parallels reality. In the real world, civilizations like the Sumerians and the Mayans who existed thousands of years ago are still left in mystery. To this day, we still haven’t deciphered these civilizations and eras of time. Breath of the Wild may have been designed to be a story where the original legends of Zelda are so old that they’ve been practically forgotten by Hyrule, and a new story of the hero begins, slowly uncovering the mysteries of past civilizations like the Zonai and the ancient tribes. A different approach to an age-old story.

[@MerkhVision]

But that’s not a theory, that’s just exactly what BOTW already says… lol

[@ramonandrajo6348]

No, not really.

[@nalinea18]

MatPat: ”Thirsty time-sorceress.” Me: ”Dang it, Ultimecia, not again! Stop re-incarnating yourself!”

[@honeychroma]

I laughed really hard at this, Final Fantasy VIII was gREaT

[@TheShardsFamily]

I bet you could make plenty of theories with her cause... time travel is a frak

[@RealSkoolmaster]

Well, this comment is better than the entire video and it was a good one this time. Kudos to you

[@batmanator101]

Nintendo: “Everyone can use their imagination to enjoy this story” MatPat: “I have the RIGHT timeline and you’re all gonna listen!!!”

[@DrDolan2000]

He's right, I will listen. It's relaxing

[@reddokun]

JUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUST ANOTHER THEORY! Not but forreal, let's not take Mat's interpretations as /fact/. Let him have his fun, it's certainly entertaining.

[@AJSSPACEPLACE]

Neko blitz I remember the day MatPat put a gun to my head and yelled “BELIEVE MY THEORIES!”

[@ramonandrajo6348]

@@reddokun The Nintendrone is salty. XD

[@boxpin8967]

I like the theory that it has been so long that all of the events in the timelines became an inevitability, and so Breath of the Wild happens in every timeline. It’s possible that Breath of the Wild takes place millions of years after the other games. It is purely speculative tho, so I wouldn’t be surprised if this was easily debunked.

[@cheesygubbins5322]

i think the zelda games are just different generations of link, not that the previous link is the father of the next link but a future generation of a green clad blonde haired silent hero.

[@ramonandrajo6348]

Nice try, Nintendrone. XD

[@timothyvovakII]

"And weve been working on group projects ever since" And now your part of your biggest project is coming to a close😭

[@SuperLaluigi]

nintendo: It isnt canon. game theorists: well no but actually yes.

[@lilstar4158]

game theory: it wasn't, but we made it :)

[@greatpeople3574]

Nintendo: Hyrule warriors isn't cannon GT: R U SURE BOUT DAT

[@bradywanlin7426]

It’s not canon, it’s *Ganon*

[@EggWhisper]

@@bradywanlin7426 LOL Perfectly spicy memes!

[@akilw.3360]

You: Epic of Stew is Mat and Steph first collab Me, an intellectual: Epic of Stew is Oliver's older brother

[@varunnadgir4513]

Lol

[@rayeittastay2458]

*X-Files music plays*

[@jonsmissingrib9742]

Simply, yes

[@angrychicken7097]

*What if we used 100% of the brain?*

[@angrychicken7097]

@@EmeraldMage7188 Mat and Steph's son

[@Maddyy320]

Can’t wait to see how tears of the kingdom changes things when it releases. Also it’s funny how they reunited the timelines for ganon to win in the prologue to BOTW and then release age of calamity just to create an alternate timeline where they win before link has to be put in the shrine of resurrection.

[@littlep33p]

MatPat then: “Breath of the Wild 2: The Breath Just Got Wilder” Nintendo: Well, yes, but actually no.

[@skylenexo6541]

Matpat: *Ignores Four Swords Adventures* Also Matpat after a few months/years: *THIS IS HOW FOUR SWORDS ADVENTURES SOLVES THE TIMELINE!*

[@JohnzoGaming]

Wouldn't be opposed to this.

[@Wolfrich666]

i think 4 swords fits better in the downfall timeline

[@ninorandazzo844]

it used to be 420 but i liked i ruin everything

[@WingedVlog444]

I think four swords is after warriors.

[@unfortunatewitnessX]

Oh, I can't wait for this theory to become a video!

[@personalRCH]

*One Decade Later.* Nintendoes: "Breath of the Wild 2 is actually a prequel."

[@localcrazyrussian4511]

Since when was Nintendo jk Rowling?

[@seishonagon8468]

@@localcrazyrussian4511 lol

[@Lahombre]

Don’t. You. Dare!

[@joonwhang185]

Vivaldithe2nd Reptiles and Amphibians Language!

[@JulesTheSleepyDemon]

The disappointing thing is that it could actually be possible. For all we know, that trailer took place before they discovered everything, before any of the memories in BotW, even. I hope it's not, though.

[@cobaltprime9467]

This still works with totk. The depths appear to be the remnants of the Great Sea. Judging by some of the plants.

[@High-Voltage17]

With the Divine Beast reference from Midna and how the various Champions had been tasked to pilot (and/or train in) one, it reminds me of the dungeon Link can complete within the Shrine of Resurrection as part of the Champion's Ballad. I was extremely disappointed that the architecture was not in resemblance of a wolf! Such a missed opportunity!

[@rowanbyrne6133]

Looks like Matpat’s not a scholar in Time break studies. He forgot about legend of Zelda monopoly.

[@thecolorpurple6401]

Ayyyyyy. (;

[@thefakebanette3483]

Well there is only one person with that title

[@brixnotbricks]

The Hero Of Board Games

[@ThumbsTup]

@@brixnotbricks hero of chance?

[@brixnotbricks]

@@ThumbsTup lol

[@allusiondreams09]

Matt: "Dear Nintendo, I-" Austin: *"HI! IT'S ME! AUSTIN!"*

[@dblg1984]

Allison Miller HEY IT’S ME! GOKU!

[@allusiondreams09]

@@dblg1984 PHTHHTHHTHTHTHT

[@bombomos]

Plz no

[@small_richard_6991]

@@dblg1984 r/wooosh

[@austina133]

You called

[@Dank-Knight_Gaming]

After playing Tears of the Kingdom, I notice Ganondorf’s design looks like a slightly older version of Hyrule Warriors’ Ganondorf. Pretty interesting.

[@NicoleMay316]

As a massive fan of Hyrule Warriors and someone who thinks it absolutely fits in the timeline, this is perfect.

[@earthisadonut7213]

MatPat: I SOLVED THE TIMELINE, NINTENDO! Nintendo: uhhhh…yeah that's...umm...that's what we were going for

[@dancalf]

I really have my hopes up that they will make this change oficial, but yes, they'll probably make a disclaimer that they didn't got the idea from MatPat. Something like "Our creative team came by this idea themselves".

[@ricardohoang8452]

Also Nintendo: Oh you just said #CancelZelda ? Well we will just copyright your video then!

[@Skypatroller_BenCD]

I make this 3 weeks or 1 month before him

[@mookielagaras9195]

BenjaminCD t as fait une vidéo de deux minutes où tu fais que lister des jeux, ya aucune explication à propos des connexions entre eux ou comment ça marche tout ensemble mdrrr

[@Skypatroller_BenCD]

@@mookielagaras9195 cette vidéos c'est la timeline avec Link cartoon l'autre j'ai fait une théorie sur Linkel ou j'avais expliqué ça

[@PGhostCZ]

Game dev: "This is not canon" MatPat: "THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING"

[@mightyoneproductions2232]

So True. MatPat does connect the dots quite nicely. It fits in perfectly, thereby combining the three timelines.

[@thedragonballgod9472]

MightyOne Productions but he didn’t include four swords so the theory is debunked

[@BiohazardScott]

Nintendo: "There's no timeline, all games are stories apart" Also Nintendo_ "Here's your timeline, now buy! So you make me richer."

[@mightyoneproductions2232]

@The Dragon Ball God Uh, how is it debunked if Four Swords Adventure is apart of the child timeline? He didn't need to cover Four Swords, because it was doing it's own thing, and just made it so that there were four Links.

[@thedragonballgod9472]

MightyOne Productions hold I’m watching the video again to find what he said about four swords

[@ebirdo5547]

2019 MatPat: "the Zelda timeline is one of the longest topics I've ever covered" The FNAF timeline: "am i a joke to you?"

[@keirontt4848]

0:44 *Well excuUuuUuuUuUuuUuUuuUuuUse me princess*

[@adude270]

>Does a zelda timeline theory that works and could be agreed upon everyone to be canon >Doesn`t include Zelda Monopoly >Understandable Rejection

[@joshwoofter4789]

Almost as blasphemous as Sonic games

[@jorgehernandez5730]

It lacks a time break

[@tatltails3923]

I guess MatPat doesn't understand Basic Storytelling

[@windingmonster3838]

I simply love you for this comment thread.

[@archdukemonte2530]

I also reject this theory due to MatPat's failure to include Lonk in the timeline.

[@youngkhan3938]

"Weve been working on group projects ever since" Like creating a child lol congrats matpat

[@zyaicob]

The most important group project of all time.

[@Cron04]

So wholesome.

[@theparalyzedarmy3836]

That part was cringy af

[@sawgobrrr7284]

love your name

[@beridot2615]

you tried atleast.

[@gingerbreadguy6764]

This theory actually makes sense and fits nearly perfectly into the timline... I can totally see this being canon at some point in future. Phenomenal theory Mat! you've done well, kid.

[@avee5771]

Absolutely wild totk came out last week and 3 years ago we had hot Ganon memes

[@sammuelsilva7058]

The Game Theorists: (this video) Nintendo:My god he’s always two steps ahead

[@stormcrowlegendary3512]

Downfall Link: But I had a blue tunic too!

[@bmhedgehog2]

@@stormcrowlegendary3512 but Downfall Link that required an item to make it blue. BotW tunic is default and doesn't require an item for it.

[@wilfridolopezthecrazymistery]

bmhedgehog2 JMV wkkkpkmpmmuuo u

[@GameTheory]

Who wants a Game Theory/Unraveled CROSSOVER!?!

[@Conrad45]

Hmm... *Perhaps*

[@rmdcade1717]

HOLY BUTTS YES

[@shmungul]

Yes, and only yes

[@radioactiveseaotter]

By the like range, not a lot

[@thisisadumbname7650]

What about tree sickle?

[@petarmarjanovic4607]

*This damn storyline is more tangled up than my earphone cables after putting them in my pocket*

[@michaelplantarich3375]

Considering they said Warriors is non-cannon, I wonder if Tears of the Kingdom will be the game that unites them all? I think I've heard it's supposed to be pre-breathe, so it would potentially fit there. Curious to see when it comes out next month! Love rewatching these old videos. Less to see "how wrong you were" as a lot of comments do, but really to see how the games and channel have grown. It's great to see, and I'm happy to be along for the ride!

[@user-cf3yc6dk8b]

TITLE: Dear Nintendo, ME: Oh so this is Austin's MATPAT: Welcome to Game Theory ME: Oh.

[@Tezrak0]

The thumbnail looked like one of Austin's too.

[@rew1677]

@@Tezrak0 i pulled a sneeky on ya

[@10subscriberswithnovideos30]

False prophet Austin Letters are blue and matpats are green so yeah you stupehd

[@juice2307]

Not gonna lie, I was a bit disappointed when it wasn't Austin.

[@SupermarioglitchyVISIX]

You can tell by the thumbnails game theory is green and I believe austins is blue.

[@rocstac]

nintendo: Hyrule Warriors isnt canon MatPat: BUT what about this, and this, and this, and this, and ... nintendo: ... (quietly) quick write that down.

[@larstallinger6795]

Honestly wouldn't surprise me. While HW does fit the timeline pretty well I still don't quite like this idea. I would prefer a fleshed out game where a Link has to travel between the timelines and officially recombine them. Kind of like an oracle of ages/seasons-like game but with timelines. Each timeline would have its own map with similarities and differences compared to the rest and eventually you get to merge them all into one complete map. In HW the timelines get merged but if my memory serves me right, the timelines were split up again in the end. That would mean the other timelines still exist....but the child timeline now has influences from other timelines affecting it. I had the WiiU version of HW so it's been a while since I played it but I don't think my memory is that much off. I do find the argument compelling though and I am also quite impressed by how so far the comments have been extremely positive to this idea. I'm used to people rushing to the comments to trash the theory. Well done, by everyone.

[@alexp6667]

@@larstallinger6795 this aint the Hollow Knight vid, to which, i thought to be true... until i truly thought about it for a sec

[@Nanashi20]

@@alexp6667 you really didnt need to think too hard about the hollow knight game if you played it to be honest, it was such a dumb, and horribly bad theory.

[@alexp6667]

@@Nanashi20 I have already beaten the game once, doing it again in Steel Soul, and finishing it in Godmaster mode. I had trouble following the story, so i had trouble denying the theory, but then it hit me. If we are the king, then why are we siblings to Horneta and the Hollow Knight, wouldnt they know what their fathers presence was like? If we are the king, how could we have united the voidheart? It cannot be from simple things such as "Oh, he has been reincarnated as a sibling" no, the Voidheart allows you to command the void beings, beings completely oppossed to the power of the king. If we were the king, the task would be impossible, if we were a child of the king, we have the ability of sacrificing one part of our body for that union, the "Light" part.

[@eldmusic]

rocstac or that one scene from spongebob Nintendo: Hyrule Warriors isn’t cannon! Matpat: HMMM! HMMMM!!! HHHHHHHMMMMMMM!!!!!

[@decaytale]

I always considered botw to be at the end of whatever timeliness you want it to be. Like, what split do you think is Canon? Okay. Cool. You like the games in a particular timeliness? Nice. Well congrats, this game falls at the end of it. You are continuing whatever timeline you loved the most. Like all of them? Interpret what you like. All that matters is that this continues it all

[@tori54595]

Yeah, I think that's what Nintendo was going for mostly. Just a way to continue a timeline (any of the timelines) and to keep the game moving forward instead of having different games for different timelines

[@superpigcat5954]

I love this franchise and you just made my childhood better!!

[@mooselove]

Actually... it’s Zelda Monopoly that connects them all.

[@xKittyKat]

*the timebreak*

[@johnsmith-bv8ku]

Sonic's in the time break baby

[@christophervandehey2614]

The timelines fused together to create botw and then split again into the "new downfall timeline" for botw and a victorious timeline for age of calamity.

[@mariustan9275]

That actually makes sense

[@derrickdaniels3955]

Yes so the timeliness come together and make the Calamity timeline. From there we get BOTW and thanks to Terrako another timeline is created which is Age of Calamity.

[@micahbirdlover8152]

@@mariustan9275 new flim theory idea 💡wild Kratts are criminals 🤭😃

[@Terraa.]

wouldn't botw 2 be a victorious timeline and age of calamity be the downfall one?

[@kenty597]

@@Terraa. age of calamity they defeated and i think killed calamity ganon as he awoke In breath of the wild ganon woke up and took over and the champions lost causing link to be sealed away for 100 years wile zelda held gannon from completly destroying the place

[@Re-legendary]

More suitable hero of Multi warriors

[@miralavenzia]

you could have also connected the fact that the more dark and spirit/particle-based form of Ganon that is shown at the beginning of the game at the tapestry and again as being released from Hyrule castle before he turns into a boar is HIGHLY reminiscent of some of Ganondorf's attacks in Hyrule warriors where he seems to summon a similar spirit like an apparition that attacks in a monster-esque darkness particle form which is basically what Ganon is before Zelda loses power and he regains a more physical appearance. I always found it weird that he seemed to be able to create this beast out of nowhere, but in BOTW that seems to be the same form, you see him take before being released from his imprisonment.

[@miralavenzia]

on a side note to this comment, I also wanted to say that I miss the Kokiri children, like I know the Koroks are the technically evolved form from the great sea but it is still sad all the same

[@literallyredacted1934]

BDG predicted Hyrule warriors' importance. We called him a madman, but he was speaking the truth and saying the sooth

[@packardgoose400]

"We rejected His message. We hated Him because He told us the truth."

[@justkon1789]

Who’s BDG

[@packardgoose400]

@@justkon1789 Brian David Gilbert. He works for Polygon and we're referencing his Unraveled series.

[@literallyredacted1934]

@@justkon1789 the dude from the Polygon series Unravelled. It's really funny.

[@Merrygate_]

He is a visionary come to enlighten us all

[@JACK.Wenzie]

Me: Which timeline is BoTW in? Matpat: Yes.

[@pastorTracy911]

Thiccman100 and Nintendo:

[@WiisonicHedgehogGamer]

BotW is likely the end of all timelines. It is inevitable. Every timeline end with BOTW.

[@kayarayvn2483]

@@WiisonicHedgehogGamer Except that that's not how divergent timelines generally work. Divergent timelines rarely, if ever re-converge into a singular timeline. It would take an incredible level of coincidence and time for three radically different timelines to converge into a single one that makes any semblance of sense with some kind of time travel shenanigans.

[@gracemcgregor3316]

@@kayarayvn2483 it would need a... *T I M E B R E A K*

[@emirald555]

I like how once totk come out you can get outfits to most of the games

[@boxythepiplup9515]

In Botw dlc it is shown that that the champions tunic was hand-crafted by Zelda btw for new viewers.

[@BigShpongled]

I think Brian David Gilbert solved this timeline officially, because Monopoly is the most important piece of lore

[@statusbrowser3443]

Yeah

[@treypalmore9864]

T I M E B R E A K

[@mayoclips5377]

Its sonic babay

[@FAZBEARENTCEO]

WE GOT ADULT, CHILD AND *BASKETBALL!!*

[@ewwpoorpeople5684]

He truly is the hero of time... Breaks

[@Yekulten]

ocarina of time: "Oops, I ripped reality into three parts." Hyrule Warriors: "Let me fix that for you."

[@peterlaursen5722]

Hyrule Warriors: i Will show you the power of Flex tape

[@jacobsmith7094]

if only Nintendo made hyrule warriors canon

[@I_like_pi_]

@@peterlaursen5722 To show you the power of flex tape, I sawed this timeline in half!

[@nonoctoro4933]

Two parts* Aktually OOT never took place in the "Downfall" Timeline.

[@camsterasmar975]

Nonoctoro When Link dies in OOT the downfall timeline begins.

[@bigmyke2008]

Botw 2 “The Breath got Wilder” is admittedly a much cooler title than Tears of the Kingdom. I’m sure Matt will be busy with another timeline in the next month

[@squirrelspown]

I felt the blue tunic was definitely referring to wind waker costume after you beat the game

[@tzisorey]

"Timeline may change depending on new discoveries" read as "There's still a time-travelling Link out there somewhere who's fudging stuff up"

[@Azure70]

Well, excuuuuuuse me.

[@rushingwater2.0]

Azure Phoenix we don’t talk about that...

[@the1hero182]

Azure Phoenix the TV timeline (plus CDI)

[@BUTTERSKY11]

@@the1hero182 the tv timeline is a hole in the Universe that gets bigger every time link says well EXCUSE ME PRINCESS

[@rossperk]

Great Scott!

[@JessicaTheEm]

We NEED a new timeline theory for tears of the kingdom

[@slidersides]

And you NEED to explain your pfp cuz wth is that?!

[@strangestcraze7743]

MatPat: *says Nintendo should know its timeline they created* Nintendo: *says Hyrule Warriors isn't canon to the timeline* MatPat: *proceeds to include it in said timeline*

[@jacobsmith7094]

well nintendo probably never thought about a connection to the timeline they just figured that the game was so different that they shouldn't even include it. But maybe if someone at nintendo sees this the game will (hopefully) become a part of the timeline

[@randomduck8679]

Jacob Smith aren’t there multiple links in that game

[@polodoesthings395]

@@jacobsmith7094 CDI

[@senjugold6977]

Matpat: fixes timeline Nintendo: write that down WRITE THAT DOWN.

[@joshualayton1905]

Senju Gold WRITE THAT DOWN OR YOUR FIRED

[@AtMr8MinutesIsReal]

*SCRIBBLES TIC-TAC-TOE*

[@pyroblade888]

Lol

[@popopopolo]

Charles french

[@Tandwar]

Matpat: Fixes Timeline Nintendo: Dam we gotta change it again

[@BenjaminWirtz]

My theory since BotW was that the timelines were combined and that would have solved it. Using Hyrule Warriors as the catalyst does make sense. Perhaps Super Smash Bros. could play in it too, since not only does it involve multiple Zelda Timelines, but the entire Nintendo multiverse.

[@damiengamez1909]

Mat is gonna flip when he sees what totk did to the timeline

[@8ByteBrian]

*You forgot the Nintendo: Legend of Zelda Board Game* *rumbling* *Timeline collapses*

[@marojohn4926]

Imagine thinking the board game holds the timeline together. We all know the breakfast cereal was the most important

[@lumosnite5935]

Y’all never heard that Brain David Gilbert saved the Zelda timeline with Monopoly and it shows

[@connermorg]

What About The DLC's and Amibo's? Lol

[@loxicarus695]

You thought the Board game and Breakfast cereal was important. Well let me tell you the Legend of Zelda Trash can truely holds the timeline together.

[@jojo58]

They forgot cadence of hyrule too

[@wdecently7150]

Hero of Time, Hero of Skies, Hero of Light, Hero of Multiversity, And with the new Cadence of Hyrule... *HERO OF* *_FUNK_*

[@mattstanford9673]

Hero of Rhyme, as deemed by the almighty Egoraptor.

[@wdecently7150]

@@mattstanford9673 ah, how could I forget

[@tariffictypist7372]

Wot about the hero of Trains

[@syndere6755]

You know, Hero of Time, Twilight, Sky, Light, Trains, Spirits, Hyrule, New Soup Hyrule, Wild- wait, Trains?

[@stevenskinner998]

KZbin: Show Less? Me: YES PLEASE

[@vekkul]

Actually makes perfect sense and Age of Calamity doesn't interrupt this theory at all, you just put it after Hyrule Warriors and 100 years before BotW in the Reunited Timeline. Bravo.

[@familyyeap7719]

I've played hyrule warriors before, and I've always questioned it's logic, but I never thought it connected to any of the other games

[@parafoxl7619]

But where are the spinoffs, the time break. HELL, WHERE IS THE ZELDA MONOPOLY?! How can you tie everything together without the Zelda Monopoly?!?!?!

[@BigMommaGart]

Don't forget about Zelda Clue.

[@Solarblossom2238]

That's Unraveled in a nutshell.

[@oliverjohnson0148]

I get that refrents

[@mongolifepawn842]

Zelda monopoly is clearly in the capitalism timeline

[@azlufa7607]

*sigh* agreed. Can’t believe matpat would over look critical details like those games.

[@reallyreal2007]

MatPat: I fixed the Zelda timeline! Nintendo: wAiT tHaTs ilEaGaL

[@kate_gam3zalot105]

Underrated comment XD

[@runedoom]

Yeah! We all know B.D.G did it first.

[@Mr_Mimestamp]

Nintendo: doesn’t completely have a solid timeline MatPat: wait that’s illegal

[@xbrosx321]

Hyrule Warriors is 2015 secret wars for Zelda. Got it. Great video.

[@captianbacon]

This theory has aged like a fine wine...

[@gumedrop5214]

Nintendo: Use your imagination to create Zelda's timeline ^.^ MatPat: *exist* Nintendo: ... did we make a mistake?

[@user-vn5jt2gh1z]

Matpat: YES

[@theworldplaysoverheaven9605]

PoProstu Weronika You have made the gravest of mistakes. You created a Monster.

[@unusualsheep]

Always count the noncannon games as cannon

[@kaijurider5153]

Yes you did nintendo

[@wessltov]

Nintendo: Use your imagination to create Zelda's timeline ^.^ Rule34: *exists* Nintendo: ...did we make a mistake?

[@rainyskye8323]

"So how do you do that sort of thing without an endgame level of time-heist?" Me, an intellectual: Zelda monopoly

[@owenbridgers]

yep

[@dylonandrew1]

I actually laughed out loud at this. I appreciates it.

[@aaronbarrett6464]

You put it all in the time break

[@kellyjelly2539]

Aah a fellow keeper of the picture

[@no1mayorofsimpleton]

The basketball timeline is the one true timeline.

[@animangaclandora]

MatPat must be pretty Proud of Himself since the newest Hyrule Warriors game Age of Calamity has proven this theory right. Age of Calamity is a Prequel to Breath of the Wild and Nintendo has gone on record saying that its Cannon. In Age of Calamity, if you 100% complete the game you will unlock the Tunic from the first Hyrule Warriors game. In the description for the Tunic, it tells us that the tunic was Quote: "Once worn by an ancient hero who fought in a war against the calamity". Age of Calamity is CANNON and is out right TELLING us that Hyrule Warriors is Cannon as well.

[@ultimate9056]

I suggest you watch this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/baCXmY2flLZjmc0 If you don't trust the link search: Did matpat fix the zelda timeline NintendoBlackCrisis

[@mysecretyoutubeguy6181]

1:56 Lol. Heed our words or we will TRIFORCE. Humour.

[@chloeevans6510]

Nintendo: *sees this video* Nintendo: Let’s make Hyrule Warriors canon now

[@Shrooblord]

Please do!

[@voltrainer]

I mean it really shoulda been. Then the "theories" of a dragonbreak would just be hyrule warriors XD

[@Palliser99]

MatPat: I fixed the Zelda timeline PeanutButterGamer Wants To Know Your Location

[@internednegatip]

oof XD

[@OvertimeFS]

@@internednegatip OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[@epicdessert457]

ooooooooof

[@catlance]

oof

[@spectrumtube7525]

HE'S COMING!

[@Hamlettte]

8:00 after 3 years and the release of ToTK, it's likely that those Zora are just those who branched away from the regular Zora tree. With Yona's introduction, we find out that there are other Zora's domains at far away places, so those hostile Zora's may just be from a different tribe

[@AdrianAye]

yo would love to see a new LoZ theory. Had to scroll back to find this one trying to make sense of the new BoTW/ToFK's placement. found it weird that were now following Blue link instead of Green Link

[@Robert-rw5lm]

so basically Ocarina of time acts like the divergence of the timelines and Hyrule Warriors is the convergence

[@auramaster2068]

I dislike convergence theory since its impossible you cant have all timelines combine sonce all contradict each other, the inevitable theory being that timelines are seperate but have same outcome makes more sense to me.

[@traptanium1594]

@@auramaster2068 it is possible

[@CryWolf0651]

@@auramaster2068 you're thinking logically and scientifically, but anything is possible with magic so...

[@dizzyx7]

Auramaster 206yt In the end, it’s not all that necessary for the timelines to merge perfectly in this scenario, even without playing HW and just watching the visuals presented in MatPat’s video, you can see how this happened, entire locations got magically phased in an out of the entire landscape, and somethings just plain got replaced or destroyed... but I suppose that all got fixed anyway.

[@RivkahSong]

@@auramaster2068 But then that still wouldn't make sense. How would all three end the same way, separately, when you have one race appearing twice in two different forms (the Zorah and Rito), or how you see the Twilight mirror shards and can get Midna's helmet but the existence of the Rito and Koroks mean the world flooded and so Twilight Princess couldn't' have happened at the same time. It only all makes sense if the timeline is somehow brought back together, somehow. And with a high fantasy series with actual goddesses that exist and affect the world I'm not sure trying to apply scientific logic to it is gonna work. This is the same universe where a sentient moon nearly destroyed the planet, and even though it was literally only feet from hitting the ground the planet suffered no negative impact from the gravitational forces pulling at each other, at all.

[@allenburt1475]

Matpat: Hyrule warriors is the most important piece of cannon BDG: Hyrule Warriors?!? You made me care about HYRULE WARRIORS! Truly the greatest minds of our generation

[@iAmARIFFiskandar]

Who is bdg?

[@menicman7044]

@@iAmARIFFiskandar He does music and stuff on his main channel, but now he focuses on His series on Polygon, 'Unraveled', His first video on Unraveled was him fixing the Zelda Timeline.

[@L16htW4rr10r]

@@iAmARIFFiskandar Look up Unraveled in Polygon! All of it is very amazing!

[@abledadood2842]

Canon

[@eldin6491]

What the hell even is hyrule warriors

[@DJFlare84]

Wait... if the Zoras have "regressed" by the era of "A link to the past", how are there friendly Zoras in Oracle of Ages? They explicitly tell you that they are a different species from the green ones that fight us, calling them "River Zoras" as opposed to Ocean or Sea Zoras...

[@paradoxgaming3181]

11:30 IS THAT AQUA FROM KONOSUBA?!

[@prettyepicduck3641]

Zelda: I have the most complicated timeline! Kingdom of Hearts: Hold my Mickey Mouse

[@leahcaballero20]

It should be, "Hold my keyblade."

[@Nosidda]

I mean even Kingdom Hearts, as confusing as it is, has a definitive timeline that's one straight shot from start to finish. Zelda, on the other hand, is all over the place.

[@theeastwind3772]

fnaf: hold my exotic butter

[@ikemfg2223]

And Nier is Like: "Oh you naive little mini-Game Timelines"

[@zanderoneil3405]

Fortnite: hold my slurp juice in a couple of years

[@pixelwanderer1962]

Matpat: "The child timeline includes Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess." *Cries in Four Swords Adventures*

[@nonoctoro4933]

FSA deserves love !

[@clemente3966]

Matpat : "The adult timeline includes WindWaker and Spirit Tracks" *Cries in Phantom Hourglass*

[@pixelwanderer1962]

@@nonoctoro4933 It really is an underrated game. Although, it definitely is an outlire when you compare it to the other games in the child timeline.

[@pixelwanderer1962]

@@clemente3966 Heh yeah, guess he was only pointing out two games in each timeline. But hey, at least The Hero of Trains got some spotlight there 😂

[@nonoctoro4933]

@@pixelwanderer1962 It was supposed to be a prequel to ALTTP, but Miyamotto disliked that the story was overcomplicated and asked for it to be redone.