Gaming Is About To Look Very Different

With a recent console leak from Microsoft and a push for more handhelds it looks like the environment for game distribution is continuing to change rapidly.
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[@krazycharlie]

The problem with an all-digital future isn't the disappearance of physical media itself. It's the uncertainty of having everything digital disappear at the most ridiculous whims of companies and their licensing agreements or revoking your "entitlement" to whatever digital content you have at any time they see fit, whether you get it legally or not. This is the exact reason why physical media is so important, so is preservation and to a certain extent, piracy too.

[@alexprach]

That's very minor, the much bigger problem is when games are all streamed since you cannot pirate video without game logic, at that stage it's not even owning a game, it's just like playing games at an arcade and just renting time on a game server, where your internet connection speeds will explain how well the picture and sound is rendered. No one will own games and like it especially now that the logic all happens on the server and so making it much harder to hack and cheat in multiplayer games. It will be almost impossible for preservation without hacking the server farms hosting the games to retrieve the game content.

[@krazycharlie]

@@alexprach Oh yeah, totally. It's definitively every single videogame company wet dream. No thank you, I don't want any part on that.

[@Deliveredmean42]

As of late, the only physical media that makes sense for the long run are large physical storages with enough redundancy. Since Disks, roms, cartridges, flash storage will and can degrade over a long period of time. So in the end, the best viable way to preserve games is to back them up and emulate the systems.

[@keeganmcfarland7507]

​@@Deliveredmean42That's horrifying!🥶 Is there any way we could prevent disks, ROMS, cartridges, and flash storage from degrading? Also, DRM can go suck a dick or cock!

[@hatchetman3662]

@@alexprach Bingo. This is exactly what I'm worried about. This is where I draw the line.

[@JMAX79]

I have a friend that can’t afford games and I love being able to loan games to him that I really enjoyed. I also have friends we all trade games with. I’ll definitely miss that part of the experience.

[@kina8575]

That is a shame to lose that

[@Mycarisloose]

So dramatic…boo hoo your friend can’t PLAY a game, sounds like to me he needs to prioritize getting a career or even just a job bagging groceries. Drama queens everywhere

[@johndoe-dj3iy]

@@Mycarisloose only drama here is your comment

[@eromir247]

you loan games to your poor friend? for money?

[@JMAX79]

@@Mycarisloose haha calm down there Willy. You might consider taking some internet breaks from time to time. My apologies for offending you for saying I enjoy giving, and seeing my friends enjoy gaming.

[@ChaoticHoly]

I have enough of a backlog to last me to my death. I'm good with bowing out of gaming.

[@nworder4life]

Same, I have like over 80 physical games I can play on my switch alone. That's not counting all my 3ds games or all the 200+ digital games I have between my PS5 and Switch.

[@RedMage8BT]

the funny thing is the people who will be like "you say that now but what about that one compelling game that comes out, huh?" Like I'm already buying fewer and fewer new games every year, it's only a matter of time before I basically "bow out" that way

[@daronofennell3474]

Agreed! I don't need a console that is practically a pc that only plays digital games.... seems so pointless

[@sly2792004]

Blu ray is trending up with younger people oddly. As they want true 4K or fact that these companies just randomly remove movies and shows.

[@ThePepperkingXY]

I'm broke. I get my games from the library. No physical media equals no more gaming for me if we get to that. Bye bye videogames at that point.

[@chakkra69]

But... if you're broke then why don't you use either PS Plus or Gamepass?

[@ThePepperkingXY]

@@chakkra69 umm... because they are not free, that's why.

[@chakkra69]

@@ThePepperkingXY Have you ever really stopped to do the math?

[@Cinetiste]

It is a good option ! 🙂 I have wondered sometimes if they would accept given games, because I appreciate the idea of this service. About you, by the way, on which console do you are able to play... ?

[@roseforyoubabe]

we also need a law that protects the consumer digital game purchases from being taken away..

[@ObiWanShinobi67]

Yes. Automatic refunds or store credit.

[@hatchetman3662]

YES

[@krazyd0nut404]

100%

[@kina8575]

Absolutely and there should be refunds as well

[@MouseCIick]

they are on it. give them 10 years.

[@cesarefable6400]

If their gonna push this all digital I wanna see prices drop there’s no physical copy no manufacturer costs no cover no case why am I paying the same price

[@D3sdinova]

AAA games tend to be even more expensive digitally. Indies tend to be more expensive physically.

[@pmgf911]

Steam games are just as expensive

[@skyecloud968]

Sadly the price will not drop. it is all about them Greed that they can't bloody take with them in the afterlife or when they die. Like wtf is wrong with them? To much greed will end up killing the market or your families.

[@InsomniaticVampire]

Prices won't drop. It takes more money and more time. Even if they could fix their creative processes, they charge you for what they believe it's with to you.

[@charliefen]

@@pmgf911 Steam has sales so frequently it is almost ridiculous, so a bit redundant there

[@ssj3fox]

PC went all digital first because retailers did not want to sell PC games anymore. Part of the rise of Steam was because it was easier to get a PC game on Steam than it was on store shelves. That was back when PC gaming was "dying" and going digital helped save it.

[@suroguner]

PC was a rare case where Digital was necessary to save gaming. though I would recommend GOG over Steam just because of ownership issues, and you can still find games compatible with windows 7 there that you can actually play on windows 7. basically, GOG won't force you to upgrade your OS if you don't want to.

[@chrissolace]

Exactly. Whereas console games going all digital seem to just be following a trend (and/of) cost saving.

[@christianaddorable1977]

Nah, PC went digital because they need to mitigate piracy, pirated copies are free LMFAO. Ooh and almost everyone is not buying a full price game on PC LMFAO unless it's a banging game.

[@RocketRenton]

Those lovely Big Boxes though, all lined up along the shelf, they were legendary.

[@mharrisona]

PC games were also cheaper digitally quite often.....I wont be buying digital console games as they have shown their hand by taking our stuff away (by removing store fronts) and also not support legacy games from older consoles. Big fat NOPE from me

[@bungleprosy]

My backlog is far and above big enough for me to just skip out on an “all digital future”. I’m specifically in their 20s demographic they shoot for with games purchases, and I’m all good just waiting it out until people get annoyed with it and discs come back if they ever leave. Everyone was saying DVD was where physical films were going to die, but my 4k blu rays look far better than digital services provide and don’t take up any space on my drives. It’s just not something humans tend to want to give up.

[@sandman8920]

Forget this digital crap and play retro games till the industry listens.

[@Blasko86]

Way ahead of you 👍

[@terrafair3248]

Digital games only and dei is the future of gaming that i wont be a part of

[@shawnwilcowski]

Too many bots that buy dice rolls and buy Pokemon, no true thoughts in their heads just spend spend spend

[@Kalculon]

Lol no one's cares if any of us take our ball and go home / don't play... this isn't a boycott that will work... most of us already don't care about digital ownership, and just want to play fun games.

[@Xavier__]

@@terrafair3248stfu with that DEI shit. Just say you don’t like black people.

[@Alexvander10]

One thing that would allow me to accept 100% digital with all games/consoles is to allow the consumer to freely "copy" the digital files and back them up myself. Don't think this will ever happen for several obvious reasons.

[@sonoftheredfox]

That's why I try to buy more these days from GOG.

[@Hamood113]

Or if you could play that copy on any platform. Won’t happen though

[@nerdzone]

That model exists. There are quite a few shops like that - most notably GOG and itch. Some publishers release their games like that as well, my favourites are Aldorlea. However, seeing that most big companies explicitly don't publish their games there for that reason, has to tell you what the publishers want to be the future of game distribution.

[@ianvanwyk3707]

My only issue with digital distribution is the lack of consumer protection. The digital license that is being sold to the consumer must be recognized as an item that is owned by the consumer, because you are selling it to me, not renting it. The seller still retains ownership of the base product which I understand, but the fact that they have the right to remove the licence that I BOUGHT from my library does not sit right with me.

[@mikeuk666]

And when has 'Microsoft' removed game purchases 🤔

[@tidjane2001]

I agree

[@mitchjames9350]

@@mikeuk666 I dunno but I do know some PS5 owners had there whole digital license deleted off Sonys servers and also I know a guy who got his account banned for they usual COD lobby banter and can’t play or download his games from the PSN store.

[@magfam9980]

Sony just got right to make the physical media fir Disney, so they are not going digital

[@doyle8711]

I think the difference between PC and console is the amount of control. I can buy a game legally on steam, copy it to another drive, download an altered exe and that game is mine for life, no need to log in online, I can mod and changed it as much as I want. On console you are at the mercy of Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo who can remove all your games if they choose to. Heck even if Microsoft started messing with Windows we have Linux to fall back on.

[@therealjaystone2344]

PC is open platform vs console is closed platform

[@undercoverduck]

For real though this push towards digital-only is making PC gaming ever more appealing. The whole point of consoles is ease of use, but issues like licensing expiration and DRM are effectively erasing that benefit.

[@solkalibri1376]

Hey! Are you the one modding those sexy Claire Red field and sexy Jill Valentine RE games?

[@TonyJenn]

​as as drm and licensing sucks. They have little affect on a console's ease of use.

[@briandanforth2234]

@@undercoverduck I expect PC gaming to benefit from the full digitization of software for the reasons you mentioned and more. That's exactly where I'm finding myself in this...I'll enjoy a massive backlog and physical collection or I'll invest in a gaming PC but what I won't do is follow around Sony and Microsoft. Sad that it's come to this but these companies need to respect the customers that have buttered their bread for generations or many of us will just ditch them.

[@pepperonin1914]

As consoles get rid of disc drives I wonder if having an SD card slot on most of them would allow game devs to release "physical edition" SD/micro SDs with their games on them as production costs keep going down and write speeds get better. Imagine getting something like Elden Ring on an SD card for your PC/Steam Deck and other console versions if they had SD cards.

[@workplaydiewpd5652]

I dont see Nintendo leaving physical any time soon

[@MinillaOfficial]

This is why I still collect for current Nintendo but I dropped out of PS and Xbox this gen

[@Adamtendo_player_1]

This ladies and gentlemen is one of the big reasons why I’m sticking with Nintendo because they’re not gonna get rid of physical media like Sony and Microsoft. I love that Nintendo doesn’t do what Microsoft and Sony does and it kind of makes them stand out.

[@johndoe-dj3iy]

just not many good non kiddy games for nintendo that run the game at worthwhile settings

[@purrpocalypse]

@@johndoe-dj3iyNintendo first party games are the best in the industry so it doesn't really matter.

[@Adamtendo_player_1]

@@johndoe-dj3iy Nintendo being for kids is an outdated notion since games like Bayonetta 3 is on Switch. It’s Sony that censors their games not Nintendo 😂😂😂

[@MegaManNeo]

I want cartridges or discs with playable games on my consoles. At this rate I could just as well stick only with my SteamDeck and play everything on there.

[@utfigyii5987]

Steamdeck at least being a PC allows you to play disc backups with emulators, drm free games, allows for other storefronts, or other ways to get games and software on it.

[@Adamtendo_player_1]

Sticking with Nintendo go forward even if they go digital because they still do the fundamentals better than both Sony and Microsoft and put gameplay first as well as their games been fun and accessible for all skill levels.

[@evilmandrake]

I'll say it until I don't have to- the day everything is all-digital is the day I stop buying new games. Not like I don't already have a backlog to last the rest of my life or anything.

[@j.w.yarbrough9190]

they are going to need more than 2tb of storage because the large game sizes

[@mikeuk666]

Rent. Complete. Move on

[@domymbd]

Imagine thinking games are still running directly from the disc

[@hatchetman3662]

@@mikeuk666 No.

[@Daigon95]

Reason Nvidia (and others) are looking into that issue. Nvidia's current attempt is the RTX I/O tech where it's using GPU's to accelerate decompression and load times; Meaning they will compress game file sizes down even more without any of the usual cons like longer load times, slower asset loading, etc.

[@duncanself5111]

I doubt it because they'll want to sell that overpriced proprietary storage of theirs

[@Blasko86]

No need for this console if you already have a series x, save your money everyone

[@thatguynobodywants3716]

True that

[@mikeuk666]

Well duh....

[@Blasko86]

@@mikeuk666 well, I'm sure you're aware of the habits the modern consumer has, they buy things without questioning or researching it simply because it's "new and fresh". People need to be reminded of that from time to time.

[@GameSlayer41781]

Lighllp Pp​@@Blasko86

[@mrwannabe00]

Sell your console and get a pc

[@lewisgrant7622]

I always look at an all digital future as a negative because look at Wii shop channel Wii u e shop 3ds e shop PSP PSN store What do all these have in common they’ve all been shut down. And the 360 store is literally 4 months away from being shut down. Not to mention 1000s of games from those stores being lost forever or being delisted.

[@ardiandes112]

Yes but it’s evolving into unique accounts through different generations of consoles, even Nintendo confirmed it will do it with its switch library, and all digital means less plastic, less production pollution, less transportation pollution etc. not everything is bad we can always download and save ours SDDs

[@ladymctavish3299]

Then jailbreak a console and play those games.

[@kennypowers1945]

That’s two examples of Sony and Nintendo being absolutely shit lol. In Xbox I’m still playing stuff I got digitally over 14 years ago. Even after the 360 shop I’ll be able to do that, Sony and Nintendo fucked up big time

[@traplover6357]

​@@ladymctavish3299jailbreaking an hardware console that's not in production for several years to a decade is not serious advice for preserving older games.

[@TheVHSReviver]

It's not a digital issue. It's a DRM issue. If hardware and software were DRM free you could create your own physical media

[@joe_schmoe_420]

Everyone's talking all digital future but storage just isn't there for gaming It's expensive for a 2tb nvme drive and that holds like 8 games Deleting and redownloading is a quick way to destroy a drive Paying $3 for a 512gb storage device to phhsically hold the game permanently seems like a smarter idea to me

[@Enzed_]

Who sells 512 GB drives for $3?

[@TheElementalHeroTheShadowL.D.W]

@spawn wave .the problem with digital is it crashes, it gets corrupted and many other things, you have companies removing your digital library or trying not to let you claim the game or anything you own digital whenever they want. We seen it with the crunchyroll, the discovery and many other companies causing theses problems and people and the younger generations have been realizing this more and more and trying to go to physical media. Physical media is still need just in case something goes wrong with the digital in general. Physical media is a backup to counter against anything the digital media.

[@G360LIVE]

The real issue isn't digital vs physical. The real issue is DRM vs DRM-free. If you buy digital games from GOG, because those games are DRM-free, you can download the offline installers, back them up as much as you want, and you can install and play those games while offline. Physical will only last so long because physical media will eventually rot, so digital and making multiple backups is the way to preserve games. So, if you really want to preserve games, then you should buy DRM-free games.

[@DeadPhoenix86DP]

@@G360LIVE Blu-ray's can last up to 100 years. Disc rot is only an issue if you live in a very unhealthy environment.

[@TheElementalHeroTheShadowL.D.W]

@@G360LIVE ​​⁠ but the thing is physical media is still needed though cause there are so many problems with digital that I’ve seen along with many others . I think physical media is still. needed.

[@TonyJenn]

You know they can block physical games to as well.

[@GM-Shenmue]

@@DeadPhoenix86DP yeah but not cd's pretty much all my sega saturn discs suffer from disc rot, i have 2 xbox 360 games that have no scratches are like new and when i put it on the console it acts like there's no disc inside.

[@SweetBabylnc]

Details matter, goin in water and having wet clothes matters to me, foot prints in snow, bullets damage, the ps3 had alot of this and we went backwards

[@teiadam134]

Srsly, that's how we got that lame ass avatar pandora game, all these sweats obsessed with graphics that do nothing for gameplay when all those resources wouldve been better used for sandbox immersion that actually gets the player involved and immersed. Lame as shit

[@nemesis91101]

Cod waw ps3 original no updates... perfect example. Bouncing bettys inflicted real world damage and so did shot guns. You'd see rib cage

[@ignacio6454]

Brother I was playing Killzone 2 yesterday and I was shooting at stuff, everything could be shot at, destroyed and the physics were amazing. Now most games look amazing but there is very little of that attention to detail!! Game were LOVE.

[@iunholy]

thank you for doing this all these years!

[@NiGHTS1980]

I never played Alan Wake 2. If the game ain't on a shelf, I ain't playing.

[@eded9157]

No point on a console without physical format. At that point just pirate everything on a pc, corps can no be trust with digital purchases.

[@mikeuk666]

When has 'Microsoft' ever removed any games from people's library.....🤔

[@ahmedhasan4966]

​​@@mikeuk666The xbox 360 store is gonna shut down in 4 months.

[@PolishTamales]

Never rule out a corporation’s goal to make their shareholders happy. Don’t be surprised if Microsoft follows Sony’s initiatives when there was only low impact pushback from consumers. Most PSN users weren’t affected, let alone care for other peers. Expect baby steps from the industry, rather than a sudden PR disaster.

[@DeadPhoenix86DP]

@@mikeuk666 Account ban would be one of them.

[@mikeuk666]

​@@DeadPhoenix86DPthen don't get banned 😂 and I am sure there is a customer services for a mistake

[@123456svp]

I don’t think physical disc is an issue.. Researchers from China just discovered how to do a 200tb dvd-like disc not so long ago so we could see this in a couple of year in console or other stuff..

[@ObiWanShinobi67]

They have one that can store 1 million gigabits and can be mass manufactured like dvds.

[@I_SuperHiro_I]

I want companies to develop, then FINISH a game. Then I want them to put the entire thing on a physical piece of media that goes into the console. Thats all I want.

[@sureberferber9101]

If an Xbox could also "Boot into Windows Mode" and pull double duty as a full PC, Xbox Series X becomes the best value in gaming and computing overnight.

[@mikeuk666]

That's what the next version is being quoted at to compete with PS6. They want steam and epic games on it along with gamepass

[@Gamerlife-be9ox]

I’m a physical guy and it sucks that it probably will be gone in the next 10 yrs.

[@jl.4563]

Same, that's probably when I'll stop gaming

[@kungfuchamps]

Can't believe I'm saying it but I will probably stop gaming as well.

[@user-mx8sb9zp4i]

Don't worry, physical copies will be existing still for people that want to trash their money and have full shelves of useless stuff.

[@DS9TREK]

​@user-mx8sb9zp4i if only...

[@Gamerlife-be9ox]

I won’t stop gaming I’ll just have to deal with it and buy digitally but it will suck ass if they start decommissioning games or wanting more money to redownload a game you already owed. We will have to see what happens.

[@SNAZZYBLUECOAT86]

The problem with digital is u lose your account in anyway without being able to get it back u lose everything u paid for so going all digital could cause parents to waste hard earned $$$

[@TheVHSReviver]

It's not a digital issue. It's a DRM issue. If hardware and software were DRM free you could create your own physical media.

[@therealjaystone2344]

It’s a sever issue

[@AE-us5nc]

My sister's Xbox account got hacked and she lost access to her entire library of games! Digital purchases on consoles scare me because of this very reason. Spend thousands of dollars on a console and a library of games only to loose it all to some hacker 😢.

[@user-mx8sb9zp4i]

Imagine spending money on something and being so pathetic that you are not able to use a good password and a second step verification method.

[@hatchetman3662]

@@user-mx8sb9zp4i Imagine being a sorry excuse for a human and degrading other humans who were victimized. You don't even need to imagine.

[@krazyd0nut404]

@@hatchetman3662 Naww dudes just an assho..

[@user-mx8sb9zp4i]

@@hatchetman3662 imagine being so useless that you get titled by a random person on internet. Cry me a river, creatura.

[@j.deleos1412]

Someone can also break into your home and steal all your physical copies and game systems.

[@lofl6968]

Digital in itself is a good thing, but what's being mistreated is ownership. I don't particularly mind, but just in case things go south, I got enough offline backlog. Until then, let's see how things develop from here.

[@mario-wana]

Yea, much like AI, it's not yet regulated very well. It's still too much grey area.

[@depafeo]

I'm already having issues with the all digital future with my Series S. I don't want to spend MSRP on digital games. I keep seeing games on my wish list consistently sell for less as physical media. Once I can't shop sales at Target, Amazon, or Gamestop, these game companies are going to jack up their online prices and there won't be anywhere else to go.

[@costa2766]

I’ve got ps4, ps5 Xbox one , Nintendo switch and GameCube so when it’s all digital I’ll be saying damn got a backlog to play

[@crono_8398]

Id be willing to pay a premium for a physical copy. Im sure a company like LRG could step in and do physical editions made to order.

[@AnarickTheDevil]

Fuck LGR. People need to stop buying from that trash ass company.

[@mhh3]

Maybe we see a succesor to blu ray with the next gen consoles.

[@DeadPhoenix86DP]

I don't see that happen. They will just get rid of the disc drive, and that's the end of it.

[@ObiWanShinobi67]

China has created a disc that can hold 1 million gigabits and is capable of mass manufacturing similar to dvds. I doubt the gaming industry will use it though.

[@josetomascamposrobledano4618]

At their own risk. Cloud gaming isn’t the way.

[@ElComanche]

I had such a huge backlog. I don’t need any more games for the rest of my life. So I’ll be fine. And I’ll save a ton of money. And then I’ll make a bunch selling my collection as I play them :)

[@TonyJenn]

Sure

[@JustSomeGuy63]

Give it 5 to 10 years you will be screaming at them online

[@ElComanche]

@@JustSomeGuy63 screaming at who?

[@ElComanche]

@@TonyJenn sure what?

[@williammangus5526]

Yeah man I’m good as well🤘🏾

[@davidframe1613]

Only way I go all digital is PC consoles are made to have physical copies if they don't they're not needed.

[@mikeuk666]

PC has been digital only for a long time now

[@therealjaystone2344]

Just pirate

[@davidframe1613]

@@mikeuk666 that's what I'm saying if consoles don't have physical disc there's no point in having one just moved to pc

[@smgofdvld]

If I do buy new consoles moving forward I’ll just wait for them to be jailbroken I like supporting games but if I can’t get a disk or cart I’m waiting for a big sale .

[@maximini4923]

Yeah and the new generation is also more concerned with environnement stuff so it's a perfect excuses for the companies to just give up on the physical media. Too bad for me, I like my boxes.

[@simpleandhypnotic]

I recently got into PC Gaming but I still prefer Physical and wish that I could get every game Physically. I have almost One hundred Physical Switch games and for those who complain about space, the boxes don't take that much room when shelved right and the cartridges, I have a case that can hold over one hundred games and it fits in one hand.

[@crono_8398]

This xbox is what shouldve come out next to the series x 4 years ago.

[@draz1000]

My backlog spans multiple generations. Along with games coming out, I'm good for years to come.

[@jasonensley887]

Don't be surprised if we actually go back to disc's. A new disk has been created that would allow you to store a petabyte on it so if that takes off that could be the future of physical disc gaming. Could you imagine a petabyte being on a single disc that would be almost every game ever created on one disk.

[@utfigyii5987]

Don't let activision know, they will find a way to completely fill it up somehow

[@tombystander]

Physical till i die

[@kingsleyjackson8287]

Fax

[@zeekay9941]

These companies act like the 32gb carts from Nintendo are going to bankrupt them. No, it's just going to cut into their profits a bit, which would be justifiable if they put those profits back into the business such as salary bonuses for employees, update equipment, improve working conditions, etc. They don't, so I don't care about their profits. It's just corporate greed.

[@utfigyii5987]

Maybe if the games were good, they would also sell even more, making more money.

[@I2ocker89]

Digital runs into issues with music licensing also. MGS 3 Snake Eater got hit with a licensing issue causing it to be taken off the PS and XBOX stores. Physical can’t be taken away. Also, if they don’t have to pay for the physical card of disc, then digital games should be cheaper then physical to reflect that.

[@mothdemon]

There are several games that I have bought a second time because the first copy was on Steam, and I wanted a physical copy on the Switch.

[@RichardHannay]

I want a clamshell portable console again like the DS/3DS 🫠

[@Gravy1255]

Me too. Also screw it give me 2 screens while you are at it.i enjoy the DS style of seeing your inventory/map 24/7 in games.

[@dangermouseuk78]

Yeah it's mostly dinosaur gamers like me who care a lot about physical media, even then I pretty much buy mostly digital. The world will be all digital and much like today you have a cool hipster who buys vinyl records. You have the retro buyer it will become a niche market I have been around for a good while now and have had things I wasn't too keen on made everyday due to the influx of newer generations into the market. Progress doesn't stand still good or bad it will come like it or not.

[@Luke_ster]

Smart man! Love the content. Made me think about it all.

[@douglasrobitaille7122]

Physical collecting should only be done on the x-box 360 / playstation 3 gen and back, to avoid digital issues.( with the exception of collectors editions!)

[@therealeugenius]

Dude, this shouldn't even be an issue. Just because games can get more graphically advanced doesn't mean they should. We reached the peak of desired graphics like last gen; why the hell do games have to look hyper-realistic? Do you guys wanna play games, or fkn simulators?

[@DS9TREK]

Why not both?

[@Max-uv8le]

Video games should look and play like video games. It's gone too far now with realistic graphics and sims. Nintendo is the only games company that knows how to make video games.

[@therealeugenius]

@@DS9TREK I agree actually, in the sense that I'm all for abundance, if it can find the right balance.

[@RGT85]

The Vita is coming back?

[@RetroGamer-kg2hf]

With the cost of sad storage falling and broadband service still not where it needs to be in all areas, could we see games shipping on 256gb ssd drives / cartridges and running directly from therm? No downloads necessary.

[@jierenzheng7670]

I love physical games because I can get them second hand and resell them, even trading with friends too.

[@Colorado-Coyote]

The disc drive is the new audio jack, it will be gone soon.

[@Mike__P]

If a game doesn't come out physically, I won't play it. I just wait for Limited Run to release a physical copy for $34.99. As physical media goes away from the major publishers, there will be smaller ones popping up, making physical versions available.

[@Boss_Fight_Wiki_muki_twitch]

Remember the way PC games were packaged back in the 90s? In those 12"x8"x2" boxes? Brings those back packaged with a full color manual, cloth map, badges, pins, all those cool extras and sell it for $100 as the Premium Collectors Edition; that's one way physical copies can survive for 2-3 more gen. Or just download the standard version for $50-70.

[@lexvan9187]

I definitely do believe handheld next gen will be the TROJAN HORSE for all digital. Got to just call it what it is

[@sleepytoastasmr1683]

I'm glad we're getting more handhelds, i love the idea of being able to play my games in another room/floor without moving my xbox. I don't wanna wake my partner up in the morning moving my xbox cause I wanna play dragons dogma. Or bringing a handheld to somewhere I couldn't bring a console, it'd need a big screen and a nice scren though

[@lindah6954]

The battery life needs to improve on some of these handhelds. Gaming laptops is about 2 hours max unplugged.

[@IaconDawnshire]

I just want that supposed leaked new controller

[@RockstarMazy]

as do I, my friend

[@LadyMaria128]

Bring on the portable gaming sphere

[@zadi10gaming16]

If they stop producing physical games, I'll stop buying, and only focus on my physical backlog catalogue

[@nick8243]

There's no sales tax on digitally downloaded games in many states, including California and Florida.

[@therealjaystone2344]

No taxes on digital games ever

[@TheQuantumMechanic]

Just you wait. There was a time when there was no sales tax for an out-of-state online purchase.

[@Colorado-Coyote]

To be fair games did used to be over $100

[@commando21]

What a disappointment

[@BasicSneedEducation]

Digital is another word for rental.

[@Puppet_masterUK]

My backing of physical media was really around the resale/trade-in value offering a discount on my next game. However, in the UK, the GAME store (our Game Stop) stopped trade-ins all together in February so I'm more open to a digital future now tbh. I literally have to put my used games on Ebay now which is a pain

[@scottparker6051]

Dont blame me my switch is full non physical games

[@321123felix]

I listened to this video while playing Stardew Valley. Seems like I don't need ANY fancy graphics at all.

[@RockstarMazy]

stardew valley is dope. lost countless hours on it.

[@Dewayne219]

I don't care about physical media, I care about actually owning the things I purchase. Selling a digital game as a "license" has no value other than a company showing low morals. Who has ever really bought a full priced digital game twice on the same system? I don't see their endgame

[@awsomeboy360]

How do you say you care about owning things and yet don't care about physical media? For consoles which are close platforms, unlike PCs, physical media is a absolutely necessary.

[@Gimpo925]

My pc case doesnt even have the slots for a disc drive.

[@gangwu4541]

They can pull those huge pretty CG cinematic contents out of the actual game and put those on line for download as optional content but actual game on a physical media form. All the space are most,y used to store those CG animations anyway.

[@jtshett81]

You say Nintendo raising the price of a physical game like PlayStation won’t charge you the same for a digital game? I thought digital games were supposed to lower the cost for the consumer, yet prices are going up.

[@callak_9974]

They are technically more expensive now, at least for the AAA titles but if you account for inflation, it isn't. However because of physical releases still, box stores don't want it to be cheaper online since they are also trying to sell the inventory they've ordered. Also like mentioned in the video, games are taking longer and longer to make, not to mention bigger and bigger teams. They've gone overboard for graphics so that increases the costs tremendously for little overall return.

[@samuellayton3539]

I made a decision recently to only buy physical games going forward. I even decided to take my PS5 offline, with the Switch to follow. When I get my Series X, that will be offline too. Once physical media end for all platforms, that will be it for me. Considering the wealth of games that have been released in the past 50 years, I’ll have more than enough to keep me busy.

[@boltronics]

Keep blu-ray with multi-layer options. Have the TV-connected console link to the handheld such that the handheld can download and play whatever disc is in the console. Easy.

[@ksemanr]

they don't need to raise prices for the consumers, they need to cut overhead, reduce executive salaries, and reduce the stupid scope on these games

[@mazzvidz]

You will own nothing and be happy!!! - World Economic Forum

[@FallicIdol]

@1215_Percent Biden supports this plan. He even used 'Build Back Better' as a slogan until he was called out.

[@mikeuk666]

Love renting dirt cheap it's the future

[@therealjaystone2344]

@@egrytznr8893you mean the Jesuits?

[@lemonlime8949]

My god the hippies in this thread

[@hatchetman3662]

I'm done with buying consoles if they're not gonna support physical media. Pretty much done with gaming outside of PC anyway. The main selling point of consoles for me was the fact that they accept physical media. And I will never... I repeat... NEVER be comfortable in just streaming games. I will completely drop gaming, my favorite leisure activity, if streaming becomes the only way to play games in the future. If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing.

[@RubyRose23328]

Ok

[@NuiYabuko]

If you're owning without buying, piracy is stealing.

[@wantsome-zs5sq]

I've been preparing for the digital future by buying all the physical games that interest me. I have a back log of 1100 games that I'll start to dig into. I can't wait to play Chrono Trigger and Castlevania symphony of the night for the first time. I have so many great games that I missed out on from my youth.

[@ItsMyLittleTony]

I think the market will split. Most new games will end up being digital delivery only and I suspect we will see more boutique labels doing special editions of games

[@priorwitness]

if the all digital future works much like how Steam and GOG work on PC everything will be just fine. The problem I think is every company who is in the console space has found a way to screw it up one way or another. So there is certainly going to be a lack of trust with Xbox, Sony and Nintendo until we can get digital libraries that act like their PC counterparts.

[@SeeinHyrule]

If Xbox makes a handheld it's not going to accept physical media

[@zimmy4868]

Wow, you’re really going out on a limb there..

[@RubyRose23328]

Okay. And?

[@guerroshelly4828]

Next playstation handheld will be all digital and most likely be able to play your ps4 and ps5 digital game libary

[@vermiform]

You mean I won't be able to put my disc in it? How could they?

[@NFreddplayz]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@YokiBrewster]

As someone whose whole switch library is digital I worry that later on they will close the shop… but my whole PC library is digital too and I have no worries.

[@sa3270]

I saw something recently about a larger capacity blu-ray might be possible.

[@azazeln]

Well, I'm out. Bye!

[@mikeuk666]

Bye 😂

[@mtguitar5150]

We should have 10tb drives as a standard by now what happened to tech advancements?

[@doyle8711]

Why give you ten when they can give you one and charge you for more when you run out of space. The tech is there they just aren't giving it to you.

[@razgrizgaming]

I remember I said the all digital future was bad once on a stream, lost many people. Guess this is what people want and I dont but we cant stop it.

[@Big_Dai]

Environment impact is a thing. We need less physical garbage.. Also, immediately receiving a game you want to play, as well as making them available everywhere (sometimes without import tax) is a godsend to some. And finally, the more digital, the easier it all is to pirate and copy. People should not be worried about "this" future. They should dread the day ALL games are online only.

[@VGLounge]

Online games are easier to pirate and copy... until the *Live Service(tm)* becomes the final form of digital games.

[@XBX1MASTER]

I WANT ONE!!!!!!!

[@makasete30]

With your name, that’s no surprise.

[@pennywisethedancingclown7139]

​@makasete30 right lmao. It's literally just a redbox to rent games at home. Until they remove them from servers like the hundreds of games you can't even play anymore unless you habe a disc.

[@XBX1MASTER]

@@pennywisethedancingclown7139 you guys act like Nintendo won't and doesn't do the same stuff. Nintendo is literally the worst when it comes to game preservation.

[@pennywisethedancingclown7139]

@XBX1MASTER Absolutely! Nintendo is the main culprit on this. I'm one of the few here on this channel that doesn't even own a Switch. Zero desire after playing Witcher 3 on one lol. The hardware is complete shit. Ain't paying $60 for games on such limited hardware.

[@RubyRose23328]

@@pennywisethedancingclown7139 Name 20 games Xbox have taken from peoples libraries.

[@theshadowdirector]

My big question is what does backwards compatibility look like? You can't cram an architecturally similar series S or base PS5 into a handheld without difficulty whether it comes to battery, bulk or both. You can go the PC handheld approach but that still comes with those same issues or you can go with a brand new ARM based architecture and sacrifice universal BC.

[@JoseTorres-hm8uh]

One question what is the game name you are showing at 9:22 if is no to much to ask , thanks in advance

[@balaam_7087]

I have less than no interest in handhelds. Why would I want to sit hunched over a tiny screen with cramped controls when I have a glorious 77” 4K 120hz OLED with VRR, and an ultra wide monitor for pc gaming with double that refresh rate?

[@dariengoheen747]

Can't bring that to the bathroom

[@SeppoJoki73]

Well... You are the 0.05%...

[@Donald_Allan]

You don't play games anyway. After all you did say on the comments thread for one of Mystic's videos that you wanted to delete games from your playstation trophies that you barely had any trophies for 🤣

[@josiahsuarez]

Get out of here with that all digital trash!!1 ❤

[@kingsleyjackson8287]

They can’t go all digital in every countries because of internet