Gaming on a 10-year-old BEAST of a PC

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Iceberg Tech

Iceberg Tech

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Building & testing a £2000 gaming PC from 2013 to see how it performed in gaming over the last decade.
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The £220 PC I bought from CEX last year was a time capsule of what a better-than-average gaming PC looked like in 2012. In this video, I've upgraded the CEX machine to a more premium 2013 spec, using a 6-core i7 and a pair of R9 290X 4GB graphics cards in Crossfire, to see whether paying an extra £1000 and waiting an extra year would have paid off in the long run.
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00:00 The 2013 CEX Machine 10 Years Later
00:43 V1.0 - 2012 Spec (i7-3820, GTX 670)
01:54 V2.0 - The Original 4K PC (GTX 690)
03:52 V3.0 - 2013 Upgrades (i7-4930K, 2x R9 290X)
09:28 Pricing - 2013 & 2022
10:00 The Benchmarks: 2011 - 2017
16:59 The Benchmarks: 2020 - present
20:28 Conclusion
A D S
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@IcebergTech
@IcebergTech Жыл бұрын
Some notes & errata: In true KZbinr fashion, I made a bit of a mess of the pricing. I confused myself somewhat, the original CEX Machine cost £220 but the screencap showed it as £230. The total *real* cost of the build was £492 ($586), or about £400 ($476) after deducting the old components. I also ended up cutting out a section where I explained about software and drivers, but I think it's worth mentioning. The PC is running on Windows 10, which is what CEX had installed on the system (after making some changes to the build the licensing watermark appeared, as I'm sure many of you are very annoyed by). Windows 8.1 would have been the "period-accurate" OS of choice, and of course Windows 7 was what most people would have installed in reality, but rather than change OS mid-video to accommodate later titles I figured I'd stick with the OS that was already installed For drivers, I'm using the 22.6.1 Legacy set AMD released as a security update last year. I considered using period-correct drivers, but I ended up giving myself only 5 days to make the video and a solid 40% of that was taken up with downloading games! I'm considering doing a "Fine Wine Benchmarking" video at some point in the future, testing out old vs. new drivers, maybe with a single R9 290X to eliminate Crossfire as a variable. Not sure when that's coming as I only just had the idea, but it will probably be in the next couple of months if at all.
@Rex-tt1vk
@Rex-tt1vk Жыл бұрын
Fine Wine testing is a cool idea, also looking forward into future videos with xeons on a proper X79 board
@tqrules01
@tqrules01 Жыл бұрын
Maybe my old M4000 with my GTX 660 cooler on it?
@koreannom
@koreannom Жыл бұрын
A FINAL FORM GPU?!?!?! Maybe a GTX 980ti (or non ti)
@theoneman6581
@theoneman6581 Жыл бұрын
A question ist the RX 5700 is still good its Like a rtx 3060 whit No RT Cores in my contry it cost 180 bucks
@deagt3388
@deagt3388 Жыл бұрын
Without the old man, there is no punch!;-)
@anthonyk
@anthonyk Жыл бұрын
Mmmmm yes Cex
@teamwts4375
@teamwts4375 Жыл бұрын
Tasty 😋
@teamwts4375
@teamwts4375 Жыл бұрын
Pc
@mike5260
@mike5260 Жыл бұрын
Cex machine
@gaminglab4017
@gaminglab4017 Жыл бұрын
😂 😂
@therealstupidwaffle
@therealstupidwaffle Жыл бұрын
i love Cex!
@AlphaMachina
@AlphaMachina Жыл бұрын
I had the HAF-X, 2700K, 16GB RAM, 2 x MSI Twin Frozr R6970X GPU's, with 2 x 300GB WD Raptor X 10,000 RPM HDD's for my OS. It was a monster system in 2011.
@kaksidaksi3455
@kaksidaksi3455 Жыл бұрын
i had a i5 2500k and a hd6950 and 12gb of ram
@AlphaMachina
@AlphaMachina Жыл бұрын
Oh, and my PSU was a Silverstone 1000W. I still use that power supply to this day in my NAS.
@AlphaMachina
@AlphaMachina Жыл бұрын
@@kaksidaksi3455 Nice. Good taste. I have to be honest, I bought the MSI Twin Frozr's because they looked amazing. Solid aluminum shroud with a big beefy heatsink. Those GPU's were monsters for their time. I still have one of them and it still works, though I have it on display on my shelf along with my R9 Fury, R9 390x2 and ASUS Strix 1080 Ti. Sold the other R6970X a long time ago.
@kaksidaksi3455
@kaksidaksi3455 Жыл бұрын
@@AlphaMachina Yeah i had a asus blower hd 6950 but it was so loud at 100%. It was louder than my vacuum. Our neighbours asked why was i vacuuming at 1am
@AlphaMachina
@AlphaMachina Жыл бұрын
@@kaksidaksi3455 That's hilarious. I never did understand blower style GPU's. That kind of design should be kept to server racks where it doesn't matter if fans are tiny and loud. Edit: now that I think about it, I think blower style GPU's were better for SLI/crossfire? It pumped the heat out of the system, instead of the cards sitting there cooking one another. Could be wrong.
@UNr34
@UNr34 Жыл бұрын
The 290x might be the best value card ever released. Still relevant today!
@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg
@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg Жыл бұрын
Truly one heck of a plane
@jayb2705
@jayb2705 Жыл бұрын
They called it the "Titan killer" back then because it gave you Titan level performance at a much lower price. And with some 290's you could flash a 290x bios and unlock the extra performance.
@MEGABUMSTENCH
@MEGABUMSTENCH Жыл бұрын
used to have one. really wasnt that great.
@skivvywaver
@skivvywaver 11 күн бұрын
I ran one for 7 years. It had 4 gigabytes of ram when most other cards had 2-3 gigs. It was still getting driver updates when I took it out of action in 2020. I still have that video card for no apparent reason. I just don't want to throw it away. I wish I knew someone that could use it.
@mrm90000
@mrm90000 Жыл бұрын
For a hypothetical upgrade scenario, I'd either go with a 1080ti, or 2080, as both would have been logical upgrades right around the 5 year mark of the PCs life. Let's say in the theoretical timeline, you chose a used 1080ti right around launch of the 20 series for a bargain. Or you went all out and shelled out the 700 for the 2080. Or another possible, if you wanted to stick with AMD, let's say you waited another year and went with the Rx 5700xt. And since that card was half the price of a 2080 when it launched, let's say you didn't pay attention to the shift away from multi GPU support and splurged for 2 5700 XTs in crossfire lol.
@AwSomeNESSS
@AwSomeNESSS Жыл бұрын
Could see a user upgrading to the Maxwell Titan or 980 Ti due to the decline of crossfire/sli, which I believe Iceberg has on hand?
@c-valueenigma4977
@c-valueenigma4977 Жыл бұрын
if you go up to the 1080ti, the budget king at that time was the rx 480 and 580 esp beloved by skyrim modders because they both have an 8gb vram version.
@CrocoDylianVT
@CrocoDylianVT Жыл бұрын
The problem is the RX 5700 XT using PCIe 4.0, you'll lose like 15% of performance
@mrm90000
@mrm90000 Жыл бұрын
@@CrocoDylianVT the 5700 XT also benefits from having use of the full 16 PCIe lanes. And in 2019, we were nowhere near fully saturating PCIe 3x16... Even now, you can run a 4090 on a PCIe 3.0 motherboard and not lose performance (less than 10fps difference between pcie3 and 4, most of the time the difference is in the territory of margin of error), provided your CPU can keep up with it lol.
@Nachokinz
@Nachokinz Жыл бұрын
I can see a 4930k running a 1080ti well as long as there is also a ram upgrade; preferably 32gb to maintain frametime consistency so Windows is less incentivized to use memory compression and the swap file on the ssd. Would also help to have another ssd to store games on instead of a traditional hard drive.
@Fernando-Rodriguez
@Fernando-Rodriguez Жыл бұрын
one of very few yt channels whose videos I watch through because of the presentation bravo!
@Rex-tt1vk
@Rex-tt1vk Жыл бұрын
it's not about how well it aged it's about how cool it was on more serious note: Crossfire and SLI were peaks of 2006-2014 era pc hardware, and it's sad to see them fade away in all but professional solutions. 2xRX480 giving you more performance than 1080ti for half a price was it's last hurray in gaming market imo
@lilpain1997
@lilpain1997 Жыл бұрын
Iirc crossfire 480s didn't even beat a 1080 Fe in most cases, barely beat a 1070. Let alone a 1080ti.
@DewottC
@DewottC Жыл бұрын
Video at 16:25 Might want to consider making a steam cache server for very fast local download speeds, after you've downloaded the game at least once to the cache. It basically downloads the game to a server (aka the steam cache) from steam as soon as you click download on the steam desktop app. Once the game has been downloaded once by a computer on your local network, if another computer wants to download that same game, it will download it from the local server(Steam cache) INSTEAD of downloading it from steam directly. So instead of your download speed being determined by Steam, it can be as fast as your local network/hardware allow. So you could even download games at 10gbs per second if you had the router/cables to back it up(Provided you've downloaded the game from steam at least once). It can be a bit of a pain to set up but I would recommend looking at a couple of videos talking about it, I think Linus did a video on it once or twice...
@gamingreflections6476
@gamingreflections6476 Жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoyed a little bit of "you" time over the holiday period , you deserved it!. Given how well the crossfire worked in some games at 1080p I hoped for some 1440p results but I understand you have time constraints. Quality content as always 👍 Vega 56/64 would be my choice as a logical upgrade without spending silly money
@hrayz
@hrayz Жыл бұрын
My real timeline was similar. *In 2014 I got the R9-290, upgrading through trades to the R9-290X (was a blower, but a 3rd party Accelero fixed that.) Was still using my FX-8350 machine at the time, but March 2017 gave me that 8c/16t Ryzen 1700X. *Later in 2017 my R9-290X died and was replaced with an RX-580-8GB with very similar performance but twice the VRAM (that helped longevity!) And March 2018 saw me match it and go Crossfire. Many games could be run Crossfire with a little tuning, Vulkan and DX12 have "multi-gpu" which can work too (try harder people, it works a lot of the time.) *That Crossfire setup lasted me until October 2019 when I got a Vega64 off a friend. Exact performance of the Crossfire RX-580s, but no Crossfire weirdness to deal with. **(For a theoretical upgrade of the times, the Vega64 or GTX-1080 were the favourites of the time. AMD Fans could get the Vega64 with under-volting to do quite well, Nvidia was easier and worked out of the box.)**
@redtesta
@redtesta Жыл бұрын
Great video! Time machine, took me back. I have so many cases over the last 20 years. Sitting next to me , i used previously, Haf X but those initial components all sounded familiar. Very cool.
@Honkinwaffle
@Honkinwaffle Жыл бұрын
Have you thought about setting up a local steam cache server to help with benchmarking different games? First setup would take a long time but once you've setup a decent local library you can cache up as much storage as you want. This would help with the slow downloads issue.
@igaovieira
@igaovieira Жыл бұрын
back then (2012) i had my first laptop as i went to university. Intel Core i3 2310, 8GB ddr3 memory, 500gb HDD, and a GT520M Good times. Played a lot of TF2 on that and some emulation as well
@MiyuOSU
@MiyuOSU Жыл бұрын
Your channel is the best channel i've discover in 2022!
@BuckyKat9999
@BuckyKat9999 Жыл бұрын
Great vid :) 2013 I had my trusty if 2500k, GTX 670 and 16gb RAM, medium settings all the way! I'm playing that Tomb Raider for the first time too about 3/4 the way through and its awesome. Over the Holidays played Arkane's Prey and completed it for the first time, loving the older games right now as can run them all ultimate!
@dadgamer6717
@dadgamer6717 Жыл бұрын
great video! love this concept!
@rodhester2166
@rodhester2166 Жыл бұрын
great video. .nothing better than seeing what old hardware can do ..
@rodrigo4379
@rodrigo4379 Жыл бұрын
Really good video! I still use an i7 4970K with a pretty good OC (even though ove the years the OC got more ungry for voltage because of the silicon degradation). Used a 290X for about 7 years until I upgraded to a used ex miner RX480 8gb (actually is working great with a good OC for about 1 year). It´s pretty crazy good good the 290 held up compared to nvidia cards. Couldn’t be happier with my build :D
@XxNewmilleniumxX
@XxNewmilleniumxX 6 күн бұрын
Awww man, the beloved 670. About to shed some tears for the nostalgia. Outdated today but in its time that and the 680 was THE card to have. Those 2 would blitz through anything and everything, good times. 😔
@whitebeartigtig
@whitebeartigtig Жыл бұрын
I recently put together a 5930K/GTX 670 system for about the same as your 2013 build here. It's very impressive how older HEDT chips perform these days. The full specs of this build I've got is: i7 5930K 4.5GHz OC (on air) Gigabyte X99 Ultra Gaming 16GB 2400MHz Quad Channel DDR4 RAM 512GB Samsung 970 Pro NVMe SSD EVGA GTX 670 2GB Signature 2 1500W Enermax Platimax Fully Modular PSU All I need for this build now is a decent case and a new GPU and I've got a pretty nice machine for around £500-600 in total. I think it'll be fine for at least the next 3 years.
@mdwroblewski
@mdwroblewski Жыл бұрын
If you pair the above rig with RX6600 you should be sorted for the couple of years.
@dodgydruid
@dodgydruid Жыл бұрын
You should treasure that HAF, arguably just about the best cooling tower range out there, I have the XM and the myriad 240mm fans make short work of angry heat pixies, it is just a fan mounting beastie even if the front panels tend to be crap.
@Latham06
@Latham06 Жыл бұрын
love your videos man
@MrCriistiano
@MrCriistiano 9 күн бұрын
This brings me memories. I still have my 1kW PSU that I used to power my bios modded overclocked watercooled R9 290 crossfire lol. Those cards were absolute beasts. I think they're still the only gaming cards with a 512 bit bus.
@eee1200
@eee1200 Жыл бұрын
Idk where he founds the clips but its good he has good taste i like it i like him his a funny guy he has nice puns too :)
@PwnHkr
@PwnHkr Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a final form of the Cex machine.
@Dingbat1967
@Dingbat1967 Жыл бұрын
Still impressed on how well these old machines work.
@m8x425
@m8x425 Жыл бұрын
In early 2012 I upgraded my system to the 3930k with the RIVE motherboard along with a GTX 670. Happy that I got +10 years out of the system, but I upgraded to a Xeon E5-1680 v2 along the way. Overclocked the Xeon to 4.6ghz with DDR4-2400 RAM, and it has more than enough power to get +60fps with a 1080ti or a better card. One thing that really helps is to run inSpectre which disables the Spectre and Meltdown patches. I tried running an EVGA RTX 3080ti with my x79 system and it didn't perform that badly as long as the Xeon was overclocked. The framerate is stable with no real framerate drops, but the maximum framerate is blunted..... whereas when I tried running my 3080ti with an overclocked i7-3770k and i5-6600k, those processors got their butts whooped. My biggest regret was going with the GTX 670. If I could do things over, the 7970 ghz edition would have been a no-brainer. I upgraded to a 2x RX 480 setup but then got a 1080ti. With what I have seen of my x79 system and with an overclocked 4930k, I think 4k @ 60hz would be totally doable with a card like the RTX 3070 or maybe a something a bit stronger like the RX 6800xt.
@UserRandomSenders123
@UserRandomSenders123 Жыл бұрын
It’s mad to think for 11 years till this day I was running an i7-3700 with 16gb of ddr3 and a 1060. It runs most games on low like warzone but I’ve just finally got a new pc. I did upgrade my card 3 times. First card installed was a GT630, didn’t even have the X aha, the next was a GTX770 and finally the 1060. You can make little upgrades and still make old pcs work Great video showing this
@Hemeltijd
@Hemeltijd Жыл бұрын
Something satisfying about old 6 cores finally getting to show their flair in newer games that utilize all of their threads
@MiG21aholic
@MiG21aholic Жыл бұрын
I'm still using my 2012 build, has that same case! 1070ti and a OC'd FX-6100 still going strong lol
@couriersix2443
@couriersix2443 Жыл бұрын
I had this same case using the i7-2600k w/ a Gigabyte Z68 mobo, EVGA GTX 570 (2.5GB), Corsair 16GB (4 x 4) DDR3 @ 1600Mhz RAM, a 120GB OCZ Vertex SSD boot drive + 250GB WD VelociRaptor 10k RPM HDD + a 2TB & 3TB HDD (both were WD models as well) with a OCZ ZT 750w modular PSU. It was definitely a force of nature for its time. Aside from gaming, it was mainly used for doing an absurd amount of video editing hence the crazy amount of storage. The 250GB drive was used for importing/exporting video files while the bigger drives held unedited bulk files and games. I only ever replaced the GPU with an RX 580 later on (by this point it had been retired as a workstation, so I really didn't feel the need to go for a 1070/1080) and just barely migrated to an AM4 build like 2.5 years ago. Currently rocking a R5 5600 + 3060 Ti build, but I do miss the good ol' days.
@lek1223
@lek1223 Жыл бұрын
the case is awesome
@HANKTHEDANKEST
@HANKTHEDANKEST Жыл бұрын
I'm still using: -A HAF-932 from 2009 -An i5 3570K @4.5 all day, every day, mated to a maybe-slightly-bowed-a-little from the giant CPU cooler Asus P8Z77-V LK with 32GB of assorted performance (at the time) RAM -An R9 390X that happily runs at 1150/1650 all day, every day on hacked-to-run-on-old-crap brand-new drivers -Some HDDs going back to the early Obama years and a pair of Samsung SSDs (because I'm not a total barbarian) -And of course, the Corsair 750W PSU that's older than everything else and will probably outlive the rest And I gotta say, I'm pretty happy. Didn't think I'd be able to handle gaming on a 10 year old machine, but doing everything at 1080 makes it possible. The transition to the 4K era has been great for folks with potato hardware.
@erichkohl9317
@erichkohl9317 Жыл бұрын
I had one of those HAF cases once during an AMD period of my life. They were as heavy as they were cool looking.
@rhysm.5915
@rhysm.5915 Жыл бұрын
My friend spent $4k on a ibuypower prebuilt in 2010, I'll have to have a look at what components are in it. This stuff fascinates me. Thanks for the upload!
@snapcount321
@snapcount321 Жыл бұрын
It would be cool to see what a 2019 era upgrade to a Radeon 56 or 64 might do to this PC. I bet you could push this bad boy all the way to current day 35+ fps High on everything through current year - maybe even push 1440p ?
@jasonandrews7355
@jasonandrews7355 Жыл бұрын
The D800 is the goat. I've had mine for almost 5 years, and it's still amazing, even a decade after release.
@caloss2
@caloss2 Жыл бұрын
I ran a i73820 from 2012 to 2022, really got my monies worth out that CPU, GPU's over that time were 680, 980 and finally 3060
@blackknight50277621
@blackknight50277621 Жыл бұрын
290X is already 10 years old??! Holy shite I feel old asf
@TKIvanov
@TKIvanov Жыл бұрын
The machine I built in may 2012 was an i3 2125, 1x4gb 1333mhz (added another one in a few months) and a Sapphire HD6850 1GB. It was basically a supercomputer compared to my previous PC and I couldn't be happier with it. Lasted me till 2016.
@jmac79ers
@jmac79ers Жыл бұрын
I had a 6850 too, it was pretty good for the time but I upgraded to a gtx 660 to try to run battlefield 3
@edricsantiago9490
@edricsantiago9490 Жыл бұрын
I chuckled every time you say CEX machine 😅
@r3n846
@r3n846 Жыл бұрын
I think for the upgrade, a 1080 Ti would be great, also maybe some overclocking on the CPU too.
@APARAT79
@APARAT79 Жыл бұрын
I just recently retired my PC (bought around 2013-2014 can't remember exactly) with i7 4770k, cooled with Corsair H110 AIO on a ASUS Maximus Hero VII Z97 motherboard, with 16GB G-Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1866Mhz RAM and originally had GTX780, but in 2018 i upgraded to GTX1070Ti, mainly beacuse that GTX780 had only 3GB of VRAM. And everything was in Corsair 650D Obsidian case. This old beast can still run all new games on 1080p with atleast 60fps without any problems.
@CBXweb
@CBXweb Жыл бұрын
Hey, shoutout to Green Ham Gaming, he's an OG
@Fly_By_Gaming
@Fly_By_Gaming Жыл бұрын
Hello Iceberg Tech, on the topic of high end 2013 rigs I just scored a 15" hp zenbook 5 with a 4800mq in it and 8 gb of ram in perfect condition For 10 AMERICAN DOLLARS, I also am going to add 16gb of sodimm I have laying around. That wayvI will have a davinci resolve editing beast onbthe go for this channel and my Tech Channel, (Which is good but nowhere as good as your masterpiece of a channel.)
@Fly_By_Gaming
@Fly_By_Gaming Жыл бұрын
Only bad thing is it has a 4000 series igpu (Which I had too many experiences with when I was a little kid) Eitherway keep up that beast of a cex machine.
@reapzzer
@reapzzer Жыл бұрын
This brought me back to the best rig i have ever had the pleasure of owning. In 2012 it was a 3930K 16 gigs of 1866 RAM and dual HD7970s GHz editions DirectCUII 3 slot monsters in a switch 810 paired with a 240 gig ssd. Every single game in exsitence back then was demolished by this things. Playing BF3 with my mates on Ultra settings. Even though my current pc is orders of magnitude faster i still liked that one the best. (that 3930K btw still used by my friend in his main budget PC)
@TH3C001
@TH3C001 Жыл бұрын
I just never get tired of hearing the phrase “CEX Machine” said with what I assume is a straight face lol. As for the machine’s final form, the only things I can think of (budget and time permitting) are: -maxing out RAM capacity and speed that the board supports (overclocking the RAM or tweaking timings optional) -using an SSD as opposed to an old school hard disk (may not actually affect performance in games very much though if at all disregarding loading times but fps-wise) -finding the peak CPU supported by the board (or if this one is as close to it already, overclocking it if possible) -and finally, a more powerful single graphics card to eliminate the bugs presented by dual gpu setups (maybe a 900 series card or equivalent generation Titan card) -bonus, perhaps give Windows 7 a go. I read that for a time games performed slightly better under 7 than on 10 but this was early on when 10 was new so that might be ancient history now but if we’re also kinda sorta trying for somewhat period correct, well… Of course, all of these are offered with budget and time permitting. It all does make for a great and enjoyable video, but no need to break the bank on an outdated machine solely for content’s sake versus what it may make in KZbin monies.
@daytimerocker3808
@daytimerocker3808 Жыл бұрын
what a classic case
@rometherevenant8749
@rometherevenant8749 Жыл бұрын
That coolermaster case brings back a lot of memories
@SlipperyStubble
@SlipperyStubble Жыл бұрын
i built a GA-890FXA-UD5 with a water block swiped from a ud7, has 1090T black edition, Radeon hd7950, recently added 16gb of Timetec ram, it has two reservoirs two pumps four water blocks and the Thermaltake CL360. it benchmarked with the i7s of its day and is still a beast today
@SimanSlivar
@SimanSlivar Жыл бұрын
NVMe drives did start to become available and the x79 chipset was compatible with them. You can use a custom bios flash to support nvme boot drives. It can power a 2080ti fairly well.
@untitledotheflash2816
@untitledotheflash2816 Жыл бұрын
I had a Sapphire Nitro+ R9 390X until a year and a bit ago , was a beast and still is , but have upgraded now.
@anonymousaggregator5371
@anonymousaggregator5371 Жыл бұрын
Rocking e3-1230v2 paired with a 980ti. Still going strong. OS installed to a SATA SSD. Does the job😊
@imsim6064
@imsim6064 Жыл бұрын
I ran an overclocked i7 4790k on an ND-H15 paired with an rtx2080 super, 16g of vengeance gold in a maximums hero mobo up until 2021. Still a strong combo in my opinion and when i built it back in 2012 i was running the same R6 290x sapphire your running in crossfire here
@Nachokinz
@Nachokinz Жыл бұрын
I can absolutely see a 1080ti pairing well with a 4930k for its final form; as quad channel memory really comes in handy when a powerful graphics card is pushing that processor to its limits. Only other suggestions are that the ram is also upgraded to 32gb to ensure frame time consistency; the less incentivized Windows is to use memory compression and the swap file the better, along with replacing that hdd for an ssd instead for game storage.
@mansoorshaikh5498
@mansoorshaikh5498 3 ай бұрын
I love old cex machines
@paulrose319
@paulrose319 Жыл бұрын
got a 2016 desktop that still works
@100500daniel
@100500daniel Жыл бұрын
That reference R9 290x overheats like no tomorrow 🔥🔥💯🥵
@Kim-fm2vo
@Kim-fm2vo Жыл бұрын
Great video once again! I do wonder though: what software are you using for motion interpolation? It's generating a lot of artifacts. I'd recommend Flowframes if you're not using it already.
@IcebergTech
@IcebergTech Жыл бұрын
I'm using Resolve's built-in optical flow, for convenience more than anything.
@saturn_in_blue
@saturn_in_blue Жыл бұрын
This is actually the year I spend around $2500 on a rig with a i7-3770K, 24GB of RAM and a first gen GTX Titan. That computer is still running fine now as a media and gaming PC for my TV (but with a GTX 1070 FE) though it's no longer my primary machine. The Titan lasted about 6 years before wearing out, mainly playing super-modded Fallout 4 and Skyrim SE. The Titan probably still would do OK today if it wasn't for something on the PCB just wearing out and the card losing 1/2 of it's performance overnight (which is why I replaced it with a 1070). 2013 was a good year to build a monster system, as many of those systems are still working decently even today.
@evanmico
@evanmico Жыл бұрын
Following the year after year upgrades, swapping the dual GPUs for a 980 or 980ti. However, for any real performance gain you'd have to put in a 1080ti
@jeffreygrindle6396
@jeffreygrindle6396 Жыл бұрын
Mmmmmm always loved that cool master case thing has enough room for cooling to freeze hell fire
@Lukson_PL
@Lukson_PL Жыл бұрын
You don't need to download Steam game every time you try to install it. Just make a copy of steam folder on external drive and then put them back to main folder after clean installation.
@asOCiATE53
@asOCiATE53 Жыл бұрын
Wow very nice content
@martynadams754
@martynadams754 Жыл бұрын
I'm still rocking a rig similar to this one (pretty sure the CPU is the same, the motherboard definitely is)! Recently uodated the graphics card to a 3060 TI. Still runs well enough, although I find myself mainly gaming on my Xbox Series X these days
@ScarletKomi
@ScarletKomi Жыл бұрын
"Thatcher is dead" what a pleasant surprise in a opening of a video
@HuntaKiller91
@HuntaKiller91 Жыл бұрын
I7 2600 and 6600 is still a decent combo as well for $250 today Glad to see this aging PC gets its limelight
@grumpywolfgaming
@grumpywolfgaming Жыл бұрын
I had a similar machine back then, but I was using a 3930k with a single r9 290x, this was my first 4k setup. Only problem I had was the 290x ran hot as hell and I had to put a different cooler on it, which I overtightened and eventually killed in a little over a year :(
@disadadi8958
@disadadi8958 Жыл бұрын
Lmao that from dusk till dawn clip at the start xD
@RyugaHidekiOrRyuzaki
@RyugaHidekiOrRyuzaki Жыл бұрын
Hey new subscriber here, love this video. Noticing the comparatively small % of performance degradation when jumping from 1080p to 1440p, is there a chance that Crossfire "scales better" to higher resolutions? My guess is while the instructions arent *really* parallelized any better at a higher resolution into both GPUs, the bigger frames do render "faster" or inversely, don't render too much slower. Obsolete tech, but interesting. Edit: Would be interesting to do a test with a single 290x and mark down the % perf decrease going to 1440p, then compare that difference to the equivalent difference produced with 2x290x.
@matthewday7565
@matthewday7565 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried UBU (UEFI BIOS Updater) - it can apply the latest microcode updates (among other things), can also tailor the SATA/RAID ROM module and (with some additional tinkering to extract and apply settings) the VBIOS & GOP
@IcebergTech
@IcebergTech Жыл бұрын
No, I haven't! Might be interesting to see if it works
@KitsuneVoss
@KitsuneVoss Жыл бұрын
In 2013, I build an FX-8350 machine. I went through a number of graphic cards but ended up with a used GTX 970 which I used for a long time. A friend was building a new computer and I upgraded to the GTX 980 my friend sent me. Mother board had no issue with either one. I only upgraded the whole system in August 2022. Was able to use the same machine for nine years. I was able to play most modern titles up until then although sometimes had to slightly lower graphic settings.
@commondirtbagz7130
@commondirtbagz7130 Жыл бұрын
Nine hundred and one thousand series were the best in nvidias history imo.
@KnurdMonkey
@KnurdMonkey Жыл бұрын
I still have my x79 system (2nd pc). My EVGA x79 Classified supported no problem my 1080ti and i could install an E5-1650V1 overclocking it to 4.2GHz all core (6cores/12Threads). You could not install the 2***series Xeon because they socket 2011-V3 and the pinout is different. At1440p where the load is 70% on the GPU they are still very capable loosing very few FPS to newer machines.
@eversong1996
@eversong1996 Жыл бұрын
Finally you come back
@IcebergTech
@IcebergTech Жыл бұрын
Yes, it was a long week.
@thefinalroman
@thefinalroman Жыл бұрын
I don't know if anyone told u but u can use the radeon driver to force crossfire on and people make profiles so it can work on unsupported games. Also games like Hitman 3 have explicit multi gpu through DX12
@MD_il_microcanale
@MD_il_microcanale Жыл бұрын
i7 4790k, 4gb r9 290x tri-x, 32gb ram ddr 1600 cl9, asus z97 hero and various sata ssds. I can play all Farcry (excluding 6, I haven't installed it yet) at 60fps with v-sync on, rock solid. try to play NFS heat, you can play it all at ultra at a fixed 60fps! all metro games, 2033, last light and exodus, run stable at 60fps at maximum graphic detail, only exodus requires the graphic setting just below the maximum available! the r9 290x was and still is a monster card!
@RudolfSikorsky
@RudolfSikorsky Жыл бұрын
Nice PC, nice narration. Me too, build some of my ultimate dream PC-s back then. As student, never had money. And as my favorite games are in the past, it's satisfying. (Oh well. It takes just few beers and all those 2 cents of English grammar and 10 words I kno(e)w are gone.)
@voteDC
@voteDC Жыл бұрын
This isn't a million miles away from what I have in my MediaPC which is a i7-4770K, 8GB of RAM, and a GTX 970. However the motherboard in it has developed an odd quirk where only one stick of RAM will be recognised no matter the slot. I've overclocked it to 2000Mhz but single channel still loses me performance but as gaming isn't its primary purpose I'm okay with it for now. However gaming wise it isn't too bad. Spider-Man Remastered runs surprisingly well at low settings, with depth of field set to high. I do see the stutters you mention when I start playing but after a few minutes they seem to disappear.
@opoxious1592
@opoxious1592 Жыл бұрын
I'm still gaming on my x58 chipset with a i7 990x (6 core 12 threads 3.46Ghz stock) at 5Ghz. installed 48GB of ram and a RX 6900 XT. Newest triple A games at max settings blazing at 120+ FPS
@jacobwhittaker6241
@jacobwhittaker6241 Жыл бұрын
Literally used to run an almost ideantical PC for like 7-8 years. It was a e5-1650-v2 6c12t, 16gb of 2400, ga-x79-ud3, and a 980 ti. I run this computer till 2 years ago. now on ryzen with a 6800xt.
@maxell7478
@maxell7478 Жыл бұрын
2014 time, duo Gtx 980s show them the power of the monsters i still use today.
@deagt3388
@deagt3388 Жыл бұрын
Without the old man, there is no punch!;-)
@raduque
@raduque Жыл бұрын
In 2013 I was using an E8500 with 6gb ram and a GTX460 768mb. lol. I upgraded to a Lenovo Y50 gaming laptop that got stolen from my truck and was replaced with an Asus ROG G751 with a 970m, in 2015 or 16. My sister still uses it to this day.
@blutadlerx
@blutadlerx Жыл бұрын
I am still rocking a 2014 Xeon 1231v3, 8 GB of DDR3 1600MHZ and a GTX970. (+SSD). It was enough for most games, and there are so many great old and new games, that run on max settings over 60fps. But newer titles like COD Cold war did run in low/medium on 1080p, with some stutter now and then, sometimes when I join a game absolutely nothing loads for 5 minutes and the game bugs around so much I can't even play. Same for Modern Warfare. Now It's i5 13600KF, 1TB Kingston KC3000 M.2 SSD, AMD RX 6700XT and 32 GB DDR4 3200Mhz RAM. I think this will be enough for quite a while now, just because they are hitting hardware limits regarding the small size of Transistors
@Ianator210
@Ianator210 Жыл бұрын
If I may, the final version should be a 2014 version. With the release of Haswell-E and the GTX 780 Ti, that build has lasted me well into the 2018 territory without issue and once I upgraded to the 1080ti my biggest bottleneck has come down to single core performance at 1080p.
@jacksonbtb571
@jacksonbtb571 Жыл бұрын
If you do a final upgrade for this machine, i'd upgrade the GPU to a single 1080 ti, and perhaps upgrade the processor to the E5 1680 V2 if you motherboard supports it. Basically it's a fully unlocked 8 core 16 thread chip that should be able to hit 4.4 to 4.6 ghz with the right settings. Obviously going from 12 to 16 threads might not matter for most games, but if you do test modern games that utilize high core counts then it might be worth it! Plus it would be fun to see the best chip of 2013 on modern games
@Keullo-eFIN
@Keullo-eFIN Жыл бұрын
Did you undervolt the reference card? I had the non-X as a reference one and it got a lot better thermals when undervolted and I also could OC it higher.
@bobekk
@bobekk Жыл бұрын
As a i7-4770 owner i can say its enough for most of games 1080p 60-100fps low-mid
@warth45
@warth45 Жыл бұрын
That good old ghgtv build I missed that day :'(
@anthonyk
@anthonyk Жыл бұрын
I would love to see some xeons being tested as a budget CPU in the modern gaming world
@kravenfoxbodies2479
@kravenfoxbodies2479 Жыл бұрын
x58 with Xeon x5660 overclocked to 4.5Ghz running CX RX570's would have a Firestrike gpu score around RX5700 / RX6600 in today's world
@RC-pj1pr
@RC-pj1pr Жыл бұрын
I had the 4930k back in 2014, with dual 970s, was a beast (except for that 3.5GB VRAM controversy!)
@grumpyoldwizard
@grumpyoldwizard Жыл бұрын
I had a Falcon NW build with dual 680's, back then.
@rmgaminguk7079
@rmgaminguk7079 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a GPU appropriate upgrade. Selling my old i7-3960x I was going to pair it with a gtx 1070 as I don't have anything more powerful, but I think something faster would still be fine, eg. 2070 super or 3060ti.
@Darth001
@Darth001 Жыл бұрын
Great video with cross fire. I keep coming back. Now do a build with a dell gtx 745 4gb
@Suvaline1234
@Suvaline1234 Жыл бұрын
Finnaly new video
@Birbb47
@Birbb47 Жыл бұрын
I didn't expect to see a GHG reference in this video, damn
@BeetleBuns
@BeetleBuns Жыл бұрын
Just a note: SLI and Crossfire do not double vram, you only use however much is on a single card, because files are copied from one card to the other rather than split between the 2.
@Mini-z1994
@Mini-z1994 Жыл бұрын
Id go for a 2080 ti if you can get that running in this motherboard, performance should be pretty close too a ryzen 5 1600x which isn't quite enough too fully utilize a rtx 2080 ti but should still be a good showcase I'd imagine.
@Rex-tt1vk
@Rex-tt1vk Жыл бұрын
With that new Asus IV Extreme and any of the overclocked 8 core+ xeons the 2080ti should do perfect fine without any bottleneck, Might even try 3070 that iceberg already owns or 3080
@ismaelsoto9507
@ismaelsoto9507 Жыл бұрын
I mean he has an RTX 3070 that has similar performance of the RTX 2080 Ti most of the time
@laejxela
@laejxela Жыл бұрын
I had a 3930K paired with a 2070 Super and as you say, it's a similar story - games like Spiderman Remastered / Warzone / Shadow of the Tomb Raider max out the CPU before the GPU at 1440p, but Cyberpunk 2077 was clearly still GPU limited, especially with Ray Tracing on
@Vanessinha91Pucca
@Vanessinha91Pucca Жыл бұрын
Darm i had this exact case and cooler... and i still have this leaf blower :D Granted, i was rocking a outdated 1090t Phenom II X6 back then in 2013
@dmangamer
@dmangamer Жыл бұрын
IF you update this again i would love to see a Titan X CEX Machine
@SA77888
@SA77888 Жыл бұрын
I REALLY like cex, its a great shop.
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