Gaming's Terrifying Future Is Getting Exposed...

Many of the big corporations in gaming aim to wield AI to power their future titles. Naturally, this makes sense as it can eliminate a lot of the tedious and ungratifying parts that come with game development. However, many were concerned about its future impact on the industry's own talent, potentially eliminating key positions, and when content made by software would be sold to us. Well, that future is here and it's now. It's time to get into all that is happening behind the scenes and that the AI powered future isn't as far away as we thought.
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[@mrpibb01]

Can't wait until Ai replaces executive suits and CEOs to cut cost.

[@iamerror-q1b]

That's a pipe dream. They are the ones steering the ship.

[@mooserocka522]

Um this makes no sense ? They are the ones hiring the people

[@Pooverse]

They could have been replaced years ago with an excel spreadsheet…. Their jobs are literally the easiest to replace. If it hasn’t happened yet it’s never gonna happen.

[@aodfr]

Yup, they are totally next because true bosses of a company isn't the c suit and the board but the investors. After all everybody is replaceable. 😂

[@x3plestuffedx]

Let me translate EA's statement on this... "We want to use AI to see just how many people we dont need to pay anymore and to see just how we can exploit this AI system in the future so that we can put in less effort and gain more profit. We can't wait to make more money for less work"

[@investmentguru9920]

Oh wow, thank you for translating the corporatese 🙏

[@blickedxb]

I mean, the people they're paying are making shh woke games, so...

[@isturbo1984]

who cares? but is the games good? have these woke workers making great games? the answer is no.

[@co_conspirator]

@@isturbo1984 the games will still be 'woke' but there will be no people to punish if they dont sell well

[@somethingsburning774]

@@investmentguru9920 Except that other than some Indy companies this is and has been the corporate language since forever ago and they're actually supposed to find ways to cut *unnecessary* costs.

[@Yukon-J]

People will start their own studios. Look at Warhorse. We need more of that.

[@blackmanwithcomputer]

This is more than just video games.

[@yoyyo-fs7te]

buy cd's save culture

[@e.l.i8993]

Well yes and no. Warhorse and Lariam are prime examples of anomalies in the industry. We have had so many companies be made just to unfortunately get scrapped/go bankrupt after their 1st game even if it's praised to oblivion by the people that played it or not. Forgot the exact companies name but they pretty much did exactly what Larian did with BG3 specifically in the form of early access, and having up to the final release having that time slot of essentially its ready when it's ready no need to worry bout salesmen and publishers hounding on us. Game came out to great success (it was a stealth oriented game) and soon after they had to close the studio.

[@daviddesrosiers1946]

AI will let those small studios create work that used to take a thousand devs. Tiny studios will be able to create insane stuff with passion. People will create a lot of crap with it too, but that's always been the case in gaming and tech.

[@rb98769]

@@e.l.i8993 They are only anomalies precisely because game development is now a prohibitively expensive endeavor. It used to be an industry spearheaded by enthusiasts, but the suits took over and now the only thing that matters is getting the right checkboxes, replicating success formulas, and stomping on any spark of passion that may be perceived as a risk or liability. Anyone with a modicum of success instantly becomes some conglomerate acquisition (or at least goes public) and is brought into the soulless corporate fold. The problem is that now throwing money at the problem no longer works as well as it once did.

[@Kkoala710]

As someone who has always wanted to work in game development and started my education last year I’ve completely switched gears into another field due to the instability of the gaming industry. It’s been so disheartening and scary to see what’s been happening in this beloved industry

[@kaimanyu586]

to be fair almost all jobs will be done by robots and AI within 20 years in the developed nations..

[@deebs11218]

Smart move in my opinion. Honestly, the industry has always been tumultuous and it just gets worse every year. Publishers have too much control and force creative teams to prioritize monetization mechanics over gameplay and innovation.

[@rb98769]

Anyone starting now definitely needs to seriously consider how AI is going to impact their field.

[@Sup3rCondor]

The beauty of it is, we still get to play games even if we’re not making them. As fun as a career in game dev would be it’s just not super feasible at the moment for newcomers

[@user-zp8kj2cl9g]

At least you found your self-respect.

[@user-zp8kj2cl9g]

This is only the beginning, just like the horse armor dlc was the beginning for predatory microtransactions. Cancer always starts small...

[@batman-cu1ep]

It stops with us. If it's not supported it will go away

[@pillarmenn1936]

@@batman-cu1ep And how exactly has that fared for the gaming industry? At this point, its better to make walls that separate game development than expect human nature to change over night.

[@mistro0014]

I'm sick of this " A.I. is taking someone's job". Look around A.I. is taking everyone's job not just in video games. But within 10 years A.I. will be taking away 50% of jobs minimum. The argument around this is wrong. We should be talking about how we will be supporting 50% of the population who are out of work now ho we can stop this. There is no stopping this

[@cinnamonroll7788]

Fully agree. No one cares unless it directly affects them. Anyone who says “AI is good for THIS.” is wrong and a scum bag. It will not only ruin our country but the world say hello to dystopian hell hole a decade.

[@EnderRising]

I feel the same. For centuries technology advances have put people out of work or enhanced the job market. What makes the “fine arts” immune to change? The market will decide as always. If the AI content sucks and can’t replace humans then no one will engage with it and it will fail. If the AI content is good then the human labor will be replaced like tech has done to countless other jobs.

[@FeartheOldGods]

Unfortunately I think the idea most of the people making the money have is 50 % of the population can be sacrificed.

[@furrypurplehaze6837]

Detroit Human

[@TheSpeedfoever]

This will be the greatest future for gaming and they can get better at it

[@tomioka_giyuu_isnot_depres9597]

The thing is. If no one is making money, who is going to buy their products. Robots?

[@playboyfan001]

Universal Basic Income. Which won't change much of anything, as people will continue to hand over their dollars to companies in return for a product that delivers them a dose of dopamine.

[@TheMordgan]

Exactly what I thought. Companies can replace employees for AI all they want. People will have no jobs, no money, won't be able to consume goods. Company dies out. Damn, we're really headed to a Black Mirror episode aren't we?

[@Jasondurgen]

@@TheMordganthey will develop AI to handle the economic load looming over the modern world.

[@Cryptic0013]

See, this is where their "Commitment to Sustainability Initiatives" come into play. They figure it's a win/win if the commoners start to go extinct while they profit. They're this century's version of Lord Trevelyan.

[@mbern4530]

Have you heard of UBI? This scenario is why it started being discussed a few years ago. It's estimated up to 40% of jobs will disappear due to automation over the next 20 years, and they said that 5 years ago. It's going to be interesting.

[@rb98769]

If they're going to cut costs by firing everyone, they should likewise reduce the price of the final product.

[@michaeltoma9329]

That’s not how this works. They want the line to keep going up, they will never cut the price only take the excess profits.

[@janboltze9553]

As if that would ever happen... they probably increase the price because of the 'cutting edge' tech.

[@deadgoon74]

💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@rb98769]

It's a terrifying future in which, due to AI, the majority of AAA releases will look, play, and sound the exact same. ...oh.

[@atomosvrial1708]

Exactly humans are just as derrivative and uninspired, blaming A.I is pointless fear mongering.

[@TheBiz52]

I also find it funny that most blog articles about these are also using AI to help write them....

[@mooserocka522]

This

[@Asterion608]

The most useless department and the most filled with incompetent diversity hires is always the writing department.

[@octomammoth6156]

AI or not, corporate decisions will always be made by the amount of revenue the game brings in. If they have an AI created game and it sucks and nobody buys it, they will reverse those decisions.

[@RobertFromEarth]

06:38 "Gen Z and Gen Alpha Gamers who want personalization across everything"... I really don't know where to begin about how bad this trend is....

[@ClellBiggs]

The one thing corps dislike more than anything else is employees. They'll take advantage of anything that allows them to have fewer of them.

[@isturbo1984]

they dislike right wing politics more.

[@nottoday3666]

@@isturbo1984 And people. Ya we noticed & are not amused

[@mooserocka522]

No they love employees if the employees do good and make them money.

[@Hoppelite]

@@isturbo1984 The corps ARE right wing. Any major corporation that pushes "woke" ideology (hate that cringe word) doesn't actually believe any of that stuff. They only push it for economic reasons. It's the ones actually making the games that are far left. They're a monoculture. They were groomed by their college professors and social media. You're not allowed to work in a video game studio and not be left wing anymore.

[@whysoserious4274]

They’ll do anything if it means it’ll save them more money We’re talking in the millions and billions This is why AI is being pushed in these big companies

[@matthewhardwick8208]

It's like the more ambitious people are to create art the more they are punished for it. This industry is nothing without people. Whether it's gamers or developers around the world.

[@adjustyourtone]

As a backend engineer who works on complex business systems: "Ignorance is bliss" is exactly the mindset of every company using AI to deliver content/software for the sake of saving money and time. That doesn't mean you can't do a good job, it just means that someone somewhere decided that the result of that task was meaningful to your ability to generate profits and the quality doesn't matter as much.

[@Giggles_iJest]

Honestly, I'm sticking to the classics

[@mooserocka522]

That’s what I do because the aaa companies put out slop now

[@bradcroxford1735]

This started in the late 1960’s and 70’s with introduction of robotics technology in factories eliminating blue collar jobs from the automotive industry, mining, timber, etc.. This is the next step with AI technology. Now white collar and/or IT jobs can be replaced. It will be a sad day in this industry to lose such talented and creative people to other industries. The games are so vast that AAA companies don’t want to hire the employees needed to build these games.

[@TheCephalus]

robots were too expensive for blue collars to buy. the AI situation is very different than that, it's cheap. Anyone can pick up AI and start their own company

[@asmodeusazarak]

I've noticed my kids mostly play Roblox and Minecraft, a few indie games, and the upcoming generation seems to be doing likewise. We're still feeling the fallout of in app purchases and general corporate greed. We might be coming to the end of the big budget game, though I'm sure good indie and smaller games aren't going anywhere.

[@zzygyy]

Vintage gaming. Retro gaming.

[@thefrothingotter8772]

Every time I think Microsoft and EA cant sink much lower... they ask each other to hold their respective beers

[@Caelc15]

why did you ignore Sony there? because they right there along with them

[@thefrothingotter8772]

@@Caelc15 I guess there are too many to name so I went with the worst of the bunch :)

[@mooserocka522]

To be fair ea has not released anything good in a long time, they need to get rid or people

[@Caelc15]

@@thefrothingotter8772 how is MS worse than sony, from this, they are kind of the same

[@paulberry5750]

AI is a dead end. It's like a jar of tapeworms all feeding on each other.

[@AntiGenerative404-x6g]

comically enough, that's exactly what causes it to hallucinate

[@atomosvrial1708]

??? That makes no sense

[@Asterion608]

AI evolves, unlike all the diversity hires that make garbage on the videogame industry right now . Can't wait to see them all fired and how AI makes better game than they could ever make.

[@ussliberty109]

​@@atomosvrial1708 Oroboros. If you feed AI generated content into another AI you get a feedback loop where the output often breaks down or deviates from the subject over time.

[@atomosvrial1708]

@@ussliberty109 only with limited pool but isnt that just the newness of the tech, its like blaming a baby for only knowing goo goo and ga ga.

[@paulatreides77]

I would love to hear my character's name said by the cast of the Persona games, but I always thought this could be done with existing vocaloid technology. Pay the voice actor/actress to record what will become the verbal fragments and ensure additional payments or residuals are made if their use is expanded to other products like DLC. Maybe I am seeing this wrong, but it does not feel like AI needs to cut anyone out to get that accomplished.

[@growingagainstthegrain2165]

On the bright side, now I might have a real shot at playing all the games in my impossible backlog...

[@LuciferHunter-kt7pm]

Same

[@WeakestAvenger]

If AI is used for, say, skins and stuff, will that mean the prices for those should be reduced? Should a greater use of AI result in reduced game prices?

[@relax4531]

exactly

[@yaboyCombo]

Definitely not lol. Same reason buying digital games aren’t cheaper than buying the physical disc. The companies will just pocket the profits and re invest it into the company

[@JeannieLove]

It used to be my dream to make video games. But that died when I took computer science and it was self learning and the teacher wanted things by the next time we had class. If it hadn't ended there, it would have ended with this.

[@SadSubz]

Indies are already thriving as is in the gaming space, due to their typical lower costs and fresher ideas. With AI being integrated into the AAA space as well as companies considering putting ads in their $70 games a line needs to be drawn. Personally I think the ads will come first, and then fuller integration of AI. But once AAA games start pushing ads on their $70 games, thats when I'm out. I will commit myself to only indie games. I know so many indie studios who have so much passion for their games and most of all their community. When that time comes, indies will need all the support they can get, and I hope many of you reach that same passion and support towards them.

[@ipxperfect]

Real question is who is training the AI? or are they stealing other people work

[@atomosvrial1708]

Did mario invent plumbers? Creative theft is a silly notion all art is derivative.

[@Scarecr0wn]

@@atomosvrial1708 If you think that is even in same dimension of theft, you are delusional.

[@AutarchKade]

Where are the people demanding companies no longer use procedural generation, or middleware like speedtree, and demand that developers are hired to personally handcraft every tree, every bush, every polygon of terrain, place every bit of grass by hand, and draw the texture manually over all of it? Think of the thousands upon thousands of jobs this automation technology has removed, and nobody cares. It turns out, some jobs people care about, and some jobs people treat like absolute garbage, and it all comes down to whether there's a buzzword attached. The hypocrisy is gross. Be against automation that removes jobs, or in favor, but don't ride the fence and try to claim the moral high ground.

[@ABMedia83]

A. I. will never replace RAW creativity, but it will help. Remember your brain is a whole Supercomputer by itself. Companies who think they can replace people with A. I. are going to fail.

[@kingoflegends712]

Companies that replace people with AI will make more money, A.I. is quite literally the future for innovation. With the way things are moving so many jobs in America will be replace by A.I..

[@castamere3368]

Feel like the future of gaming is gonna be newer and ambitious game companies having people work on a lot of lore, worldbuilding, game mechanics, a metric shit ton of models, and voice actors to feed to an A.I. to effectively endlessly create content that would potentially only get better with time. All they have to do is provide a shit ton of base materials for the ai, then custom place a starting world setting and game mechanics. Also, it could provide a new line of jobs in game dev companies, because inevitably the ai's are gonna need to have unique personality in how they work and place objects and events due to competition between companies. That being said the start of AI in gaming is likely to be really bad. I could easily see the next 5 to 10 years being filled with clones of the same games from the same ai, ai being used to optimize P2W aspects to manipulate you out of your money, and ai taking tons of jobs. TL;DR I feel that AI will overall be good for game development, but it will come with a harsh start due to taking jobs and current negative monetization practices from companies

[@darthenclave6946]

Matty: "I want to consume things coming from other humans." 😂

[@mooserocka522]

I just want it to be good

[@HonorBRJonasFCB]

@@mooserocka522 Me too, if the AI generated game is as good as the human one, or even better, with less bugs and less development time, I'm all for it, how many AAA games suck nowadays because devs cant polish their games at the same pace as some years ago (wich makes sense since game development its getting harder every year). Take GTA VI for example 10 years to release, now imagine some time in the future, 20 years for 1 game to release ? If AI can make it better and faster, well thats the correct path to go.

[@atomosvrial1708]

No you dont, your other replies state a outright hate of anything AAA

[@yaboyCombo]

PAUSE

[@mosesdouglas4325]

Al will never replace the human element but unfortunately those in charge don't seem to care. Unfortunately true.

[@ashy3340]

So unfortunate

[@Jack-The-Gamer-]

Blatantly not true. AI is going to replace a majority of the work force whether anyone likes it or not.

[@jarde1989]

The “Human Element” is a predictable algorithm that absolutely will be replaced and you won’t even notice

[@Ashton_Cats]

​@Jack-The-Gamer- someone didn't read the comment. Ai will replace jobs because ceos are greedy, not because ai is better than humans.

[@Jack-The-Gamer-]

@@Ashton_Cats No, I read it. You're just wrong, like I already said. Before long, AI will do your job better than you do. This isn't a debate. It's reality.

[@ballpythontx8079]

they told you, you will own nothin and be happy.

[@brandonconner8684]

The way of WEF scary stuff.

[@user-zp8kj2cl9g]

Great, another incel regurgitating conspiracy theories 🙄

[@etownsend9116]

People are already happy with that. Look at movie and music streaming. Gaming will be next starting with Game pass. Next is all digital consoles.

[@bruhtholemew]

@@user-zp8kj2cl9g "conspiracy theories" Someone literally went on a world stage and said that though.

[@ChrisLeMale]

Nobody told us. Just a lame excuse for the dumb consoomer. I will own everything and be happy

[@dogtagduke7125]

I think there is great potential with AI in game development. I don’t want it used to write my games, but I do think implementing AI to serve as the “souls” and “personalities” of random NPC’s would make interacting with them a lot more entertaining. You can talk to them with your headset and they will respond naturally and organically.

[@alexgonzales6436]

Hopefully this will help the smaller companies more than the bigger ones. The bigger companies will over use this, they will fail because there will be no human touch to it.

[@Mojaveknight17]

Video Games are products sold by companies. As long as the games are fun the majority will not care just like with paintings and more.

[@jvmango3057]

majority of people like slop

[@Mojaveknight17]

@@jvmango3057 they just don't care at all

[@jvmango3057]

@@Mojaveknight17 which i think is unfortunate but what can you do when the medium is this saturated and mainstream

[@Chonicle2]

I really think AI could be good for Generating random quests, in big open world rpg's like things to keep the player busy if they want, but i dont think it should ever be used to make actual story lines like a main story or side quests that have long branching stories

[@edwincalderon4748]

Thank you so much for talking about this. This is extremely important

[@gtfokthxbyecya]

From here on out if you buy ANY EA games, you're getting the future you deserve.

[@SifiFan]

Selling AI cosmetics is like printing money. Dang. Wish i had thought of that.

[@DevicCypher]

This will never work. They’re saying hey we want to go bankrupt. Xbox leading the charge in the downfall of gaming as usual

[@adoseofjoe1725]

I imagine there are people out there who feel the same way you do about the music but about terrains landscapes and making things look natural

[@florisbackx1744]

I'm sorry but I don't agree with your take. It kind of sounds like you don't mind AI taking a coders job, but just not the creatives. Let me guess, you are an creative, right? In both cases there will be a humans with a vision, either technical, how can i create it (with help from AI) and creative, what di I want to create (with the help from AI)

[@user-zj9ow6vl1m]

I am a tattoo artist for a living and it upsets me to no end that practically the first thing that AI automated is art. We want AI to automate shitty factory jobs and hard labor so that humans can be freed up for more creative endeavors. Now with AI art, say someone wants to hire an artist to do a painting for them. Depending on the artist that could cost hundreds or thousands of dollars. Now with AI art, in minutes AI can create 100 versions of that painting for free or super cheap. So now artists, illustrators, etc will be automated away and priced out. Eventually when some automated tattoo machine is invented it will be linked up with this AI art and it’ll be able to create any image on skin. These automated tattoo machines are a decade or two away based on the rate of technolog development, and then my whole industry will disappear. Maybe those of us who’ve been in it a long time will get to grasp on for awhile, but a new generation won’t be able to come up. Thousands of years of tattoo history and culture will be turned into some BS print job. Only thing stopping the fall of my industry and all art related jobs is if society collapses, otherwise we’re full speed ahead to AI everything. And while I think some of the aspects of it will be cool, it’ll be the death of creativity.

[@happycloudgamer1088]

I was in a voice-over studio where i was told with my voice into a movie. It not allow to save my voice to use later in different projects

[@cinnamonroll7788]

“I didn’t do anything because they weren’t coming for me.” AI has been taking peoples jobs for a few years now but everyone only worries about it when it becomes their problem despite several people claiming when this first started millions of jobs would be lost. Unless EVERYONE right now does something about AI, forces the governments hand, whatever, then very one deserves what comes next. Video games will be nothing compared to what comes next.

[@rb98769]

There is literally absolutely nothing that anyone can do about it at this point. Even if the entire world somehow banned it, which is extremely unlikely, it would still thrive in a black market.

[@cinnamonroll7788]

@@rb98769 You are probably right, but that attitude allows things to only get worse. The Western world has grown lazy as hell and doesn't really do much besides turn to social media or youtube to complain. Look at micro transactions. EVERYONE on the consumer side thought they were bad but people still ate them up and continue to do so.

[@thecinematicexperience420]

"I suppose you'd ban the internet to keep the libraries open" - I, Robot

[@gabiruuuuuuuuu]

“art comes from humans” for me summarizes it all

[@ThroneRoomGaming]

I will likely be one of those gamers who doesn't want heavy AI usage in games. I also think it'll be hard for AAA developers to charge $70 for a game that a fancy chatbot came up with after doing a deep web search. Also, loved the Kingdom hearts background music

[@oloseldarion7117]

Yeah well this is your boys Microsoft spearheading our AI dystopian nightmare. Everything they touch is getting rolled into an AI Cloud imperium where our entire lives is owned by one of three corporations and we own nothing, everything is a subscription, and we live in Cyberpunk. Want to stop it in gaming? Unsubscribe from Game Pass, stop buying MTX, and buy to own real products made by real people. In fact, just boycott Xbox entirely.

[@RTXWorld-m2h]

And playstation makes everything they touch , so their name is gaystation 😅

[@d_shuffles]

It’s all about the bottom dollar. I grew up in Michigan and know firsthand how crippling corporate greed is to society. Car industry pulled out of the city to save money in China. Imagine Detroit on the global scale, jobs will be cut to save money with AI. It’s human nature…

[@Psilo_Sybin]

The indie scene on pc is bigger than ever

[@o0junglist0o93]

Microsoft are the bad guys from ready player one...

[@calebshelton9240]

I think trying to stop it is useless, just like trying to stop the car from taking over the horse and buggy. That said, I think you will see a lot of developers use AI in a good way and I do believe Colin is right that there will be a huge push for "organic" games made only by people.

[@randomsmile9064]

I'm all for AI being used in a helpful and good way for the players.. Like the in game guides.. Unless developers actually start going to the effort of including a lot more information in game so people don't have to spend more time on youtube looking up guides..

[@stuartedwards6996]

Let's vote with our wallets, that's the only thing that will make them think twice.

[@mooserocka522]

We already have been it’s why they are firing everyone

[@Asterion608]

@@mooserocka522 Yes, and it's working . Now in order to make games better than an AI they will be forced to hire actual game developers with skill instead of useless diversity hires.

[@Derknomicon]

The use of AI generated content is going to take away the opportunities for people who are just trying to get into the industry. Basically low level work/positions that are supposed to be stepping stones to hopefully help them gain experience and confidence to improve their skills and strive for harder tasks/positions. It won't stop with the games industry either, eventually actors will be out of the job because AI can do their job for the movie industry. Why need humans for anything when AI can do anything in seconds? AI doesn't get sick, pregnant, has family emergencies, etc. The corpos are going to keep pushing this technology to basically sell overpriced crap without effort or hassle. The more credit these companies get from people about how the content was improved thanks to AI generated content, the more and more we are going to see AI generated content. Give them an inch and then they are going to take a mile. I advise to stop supporting these companies and start supporting indie developers. But we all have free will and will choose to do what we want. If you hate seeing what the games industry has become then please take my advice.

[@kingoflegends712]

AI generated content is going to be the future. Big improvements in future gaming industry will be a result of that, what’s the harm in that

[@ahmadistanbouli6136]

Millions of people are going to lose their jobs, and poverty will increase. How is that not scary?​@@kingoflegends712

[@TheCephalus]

no, there is a new opportunity knocking on the door. AI needs data and training, a lot of it. And the best ones suited for that are those who are masters at their craft. If AI grows enough so that every average joe can have access to it then we have created a demand for data that well surpasses the old.

[@castamere3368]

I feel like A.I. could be really good for game development, and even potentially create more jobs. That being said though, I don't trust the big game companies to make logical decisions and instead they are probably just gonna use it to make the same game 10 times with less people, ruining the game development (and gaming) scene.

[@TheCephalus]

​@@castamere3368 you are 100% right, but that is nothing new under the stun. they act like they always do, but AI is lowering the ceiling, and they need to keep the ceiling high to be competitive. The only thing that makes AAA games AAA are the ridiculous costs, nothing else.

[@dudecannon9370]

Artists were supposed to be the assets. As an artist, they are supposed to constantly evolve with technology. AI or technology are just tools.

[@billy_cross]

It’s like almost every arena shooter. It was highly popular when it was new because it was new but much like every arena shooter. There really isn’t much substance there.

[@MisterK-YT]

Matthew, you needa have Jaffe on to have a convo about this. He’s very passionately pro-AI, and feels that people don’t necessarily understand how good it can turn out to be. Would be an interesting convo. Maybe bring him on Duke to discuss?

[@WaynesWorldUnlimited]

Gaming doesn’t go beyond much 2050.. so it’s on its way out

[@KlutchAndJerel]

I find it hard to create a distinction between supporting AI that replaces repetitive/“menial” jobs, and AI that replaces “creative” jobs. If you’re okay with one, I don’t see how you could say the other is wrong. Personally I think there will be enough space for amazing voice actors to thrive alongside easily accessible AI voice tools.

[@MrYoungHegelian]

This is all SONY's fault. Our friend Phil Spencer will have to once again save gaming and gamers.

[@nicekix3038]

How is this Sony’s fault, when Microsoft was the first ones to invest in AI?

[@catspearethegreat8800]

If the next Elderscrolls has generative ai, i'm going to explode. I've had to wait so damn long, and i know that ai cant do that universe right.

[@castamere3368]

feel like there is so much potentially with ai in the game development industry, with so many ways to make better games quicker without losing jobs. It's just that I don't trust these companies to do it that way, just ways to cut costs as much as possible without losing money. Like i could see games that use a large base set of models, worldbuilding (lore), and the physical world of the game (along with extra assets for all of those) to have an ai create the wet dream of a live service game enthusiast (not the large amounts of games that equate to literal piles of poo we currently have), and it would still require most if not all the previous workers. The issue is that more than likely it's just gonna end up being a tool to optimize P2W aspects of games and manipulate you the best it can to buy the new and cool FOMO NFT with abilities.

[@AndreiDuvan20]

Wow so thousands of artists in the games industry have lost their job to this BS and nobody says anything but the voice actors complain and now people make videos about how worrying it is?, the bias is showing since so many youtubers now love to use AI to make their lazy, cringy thumbnails and that's ok but a robot voice or a story written by a robot is not huh?

[@Bug_Bait]

The indie scene is on fire right now! Lots of soul there and some great games to play.

[@moosechuckle]

I think there are two ways to look at this, because the integration of AI, at this point, will be inevitable. 1: freak out. Start talking about how it’s the end of the world, and we should panic. 2: look into what opportunities will be opened by incorporating AI. Will it allow people who have never been able to create game to become involved? Will this allow for smaller studios to create games not based on AI creating a whole new “vintage style” gaming? And long term, we should probably be encouraging people to learn more about integrating AI into their programming and exploring areas of business where AI can’t fully replace a person. Yeah, we won’t have as many people in gaming, but there is a lot of space in plumbing, carpentry, and blue collar jobs. Fear has always been a factor in the integration of technology into art. When photography came about, painters flipped their shit. When photography became digital, photographers flipped their shit. We all need to be aware of what could happen in the future, and prepare ourselves accordingly.

[@SilvyReacts]

The issue is there is a massive difference between the examples you mentioned from the past vs what is occurring now. Photography still required a level of skill and knowledge to take good photos (it's not like it just automatically does everything for you), and it isn't a replacement for painting as it's two entirely different mediums. Whereas AI literally can be used and will be used as a replacement for many jobs. And you might bring up when technology replaced previous jobs, but I would like to argue in those cases ... there was actually a huge benefit. So for example, getting access to mass produced clothing, and other types of cloth... is a benefit for the world as a whole. Having machines do a lot of the more dangerous work was also a pretty big deal. So even if it replaced jobs, it was worth it. Not to mention a lot of the jobs it created were low end enough that they could hire those who were out of a job due to it. Whereas replacing jobs in regards to art, doesn't benefit anyone other than corporations so they don't need to hire as many people. And those who they do higher, would likely need to a degree or have a lot of knowledge in regards to generative AI and programming. So it's not like those who are let go can just get hired for that instead. The issue is you are treating this as if it's the same thing that occured in the past, but it's not. This is going to be way worse.

[@rb98769]

​@@SilvyReactsIt's pretty naive to ignore the similarities between photography and AI here. AI does require a certain level of skill just the same to get the results you want. Photography displaced a huge niche of the visual arts, they are only entirely different mediums now because the technology has already been settled for a long time. And there is likewise a huge benefit in this case both for consumers and for developers. I really don't get these points because they are so common in these discussions, but they always verge on classism. It always pretty much comes down to "it's okay for this group of people to lose their jobs for one technology, but it's terrifying for this other group of people to lose their jobs for another technology." Ultimately yes, it's almost the same thing, and people are hypocritical to pretend it isn't. I'm not saying it's good or bad, but it is what it is.

[@TheNoobyNoob1]

@@rb98769I think the point he’s making is the importance of art and the human aspect of that art. We could argue semantics for hours about how things in society always progress. I hold a similar opinion in that regard. But it’s also ok to push back against that shift. I think in this case, society will decide how important humans are to creativity. I think enough people feel a conviction against AI in a creative field like this (especially one that writes) because this only benefits big tech. Mass production jobs pretty obviously benefited from tech to a great degree and have helped our very existence to a tenth degree. It’s is different in the art field when it comes to society. To sum it up, life isn’t a giant machine. Human life to me is human expression.

[@SilvyReacts]

@@TheNoobyNoob1 *"AI does require a certain level of skill just the same to get the results you want."* Clearly you and I have very different opinions on what is considered "skill". Using generative AI is essentially a trial and error process. Type something in, see the result... refine. And in some cases you can alter what comes out so you can keep the things you want and change what you don't want. There is no skill involved. At least, no more skill than working on an elementary school project clipping magazine pictures together. (Edit: I would argue it takes more skill to do this, because unlike AI you have to be pretty creative in how you piece thing together since you don't have a computer to turn something garbage into something nice.) *"Photography displaced a huge niche of the visual arts, they are only entirely different mediums now because the technology has already been settled for a long time."* They were always different mediums. Not only is the process vastly different but so is the result. A painter can paint literally anything they could imagine. A photographer can only photograph what exists. As such it would have never replaced painting, because it simply can't. *"And there is likewise a huge benefit in this case both for consumers and for developers."* The benefits are in no way comparable to the examples I gave. And in the case of AI, there are also way too many negatives. You say it helps devs, but you fail to realize the only devs it's helping are the ones who didn't get fired and replaced with AI.

[@SilvyReacts]

@@TheNoobyNoob1 *"I think enough people feel a conviction against AI in a creative field like this (especially one that writes) because this only benefits big tech."* Exactly, there isn't some huge benefit to society by replacing artists. Mass producing coats, blankets, clothing, etc is a massive benefit to society as it makes these things more readily available to those who need them. (They are essential to life in some parts of the world. A necessity.) Basically the benefit is so great to society that it easily makes up for the loss of some jobs. Whereas any real benefit to replacing artists is strictly on the side of corporations. Basically, make more money and that's it. The only perceived benefit that could exist for consumers is maybe games don't increase in price. And I say "perceived" because chances are they would still increase in price anyway. And not really sure putting people out of a job for this reason is a good reason. Eventually putting 10s of thousands of people out of a job so one day MAYBE we can save 10 bucks on a video game... >.>

[@GhostXRCG]

I'm trying to get into indie dev with UE5, I've been writing stories for the past 8 years, working on the same 10-12 series, I'm 20 now btw, and i can def say AI writing is going to be no where near anything any human can create.

[@Dead_Goat]

ai produces better writing than human writers. writing and story is not needed or important for gaming. those things are more for movies, tv shows, and books.

[@yaboyCombo]

I know a lot of people won’t wanna hear this but I think I speak for the average consumer. I couldn’t care less how my games/movies/music etc. are made as long as they’re enjoyable to me. It’s the sad truth but these corporations know that most people think like me which is why this is all happening. If you told me my favourite games were made completely by AI and hundreds of people lost their jobs as a result I would say I’m sorry to those who lost their jobs but ultimately I don’t care as long as I’m getting a quality product. It may sound callous but it’s the reality of the situation.

[@e21big]

I work in translation and we use AI a ton for a long time now, the way we handle it in this industry is what we called 'Machine-Translated Human-Edit, basically AI is use to perform the work in advance and people are hired anyone to validate and correct AI translation. Some of the AI package can work really well and I almost don't have anything to fix on their output, while others are extensively bad and almost need a rework. As a people who handled this sort of things before, let me tell you that the biggest problem with AI by far is not how they will take away people job, but how they will affect the way people work and the quality of the final outcome of the product. Company don't use AI to cutdown people, they use it to cutdown time. They use AI to negotiate lower working fee because it's supposed to be easier to complete, and they use it to dramatically cut down the time provided in the project that AI should help. This isn't always be the case as stated above, some of the AI output ended up needing more work and taking more time than with how they are done traditionally. And as a result, it can either severely affect the quality of our job (no time to edit, can't negotiate for more time), or the quality of life of the people working who has several times the amount they were assigned to meet the quality standard.

[@Jeanssj98]

the thing is people dont care if AI had any type of involvement in the game, the general public will not even notice

[@randomsmile9064]

I think alot of us also can't tell the difference between what is AI made and not.. outside of the obvious incredibly poorly done AI things.. but honestly, most of us just can't tell the difference

[@mooserocka522]

Honestly it might be better , until we get games without certian messaging they want to throw in there ai might be better

[@haw-chaw-chawcalypse]

This further reinforces the need for independent gaming, free from the constraint of a system that would gladly make its personnel redundant for the sake of saving a few bucks.

[@iwatchDVDsonXbox360]

They are in a bad financial situation, that's why they are doing that. But replacing artist and writers with AI won't fix that, because main problem is leadership. Doesn't matter if you give command to a robot or a real person, if your command is bad result will be bad.

[@gmonics22]

Feeling pretty positive about this from a purely player perspective. Big corps will inevitably want to use AI to pump out as much low effort content as possible... but it will be largely rejected by those of us who actually like games. However, the tech will enable tiny teams and even individuals to give their passion projects the kind of scope and production values which up to now have required enormous teams and huge investment. Those games will be successful enough to provide an income for thei developers, who will continue to produce games they care about without being beholden to investors. Yes the general consumer will receive increasingly soulless and uninspiring slop, but those of us who are actually into games will see the quality of indies go through the roof :)

[@feeamerie5011]

If you glance over at the stables Matty, you’ll find it wide open and ill kept as the horse bolted a few years ago…

[@GeorgeNoX]

I personally don't think that an AI guide or helper in games is a bad idea. So many people come into games and are lost on what to do or how and AI could help them there. However, im not very happy when it comes to AI voice acting or AI writing dialogue or fully AI created textures and such as that hampers the creativity of a game and its developers (if there are any left that is)

[@darknight-1822]

Unionized future for developers, that's how you fight this.

[@camrongremmels249]

Using AI art is like commissioning from an artist that doesn't take direction well. Generating an image for example, isn't being an illustrator, it's more like being a director, which I guess is still an art form.

[@wiseman4953]

They need to improve margins, which always means cut "MANgins" to corporations. Indies are the force that can keep a balance to some degree.

[@wmv8996]

Knowing microsoft, the next xbox will be subtitled ai. Man, i wish they kept with the rotational naming scheme of the 360.

[@MikZran]

There is a concept called AI Model Collapse, where an AI trains on content generated by AI generated by AI, etc for multiple iterations. With enough generations of recursion, less common data gets forgotten. It literally becomes more samey, more derivative. So AI content machines are going to need to be regularly injected with uncommon data to avoid homogeneity. Maybe that's what humans become in the AI content mines: sources of randomness.

[@BruceRichwineJr]

I’m not to worried about. It’s an industry over saturated with people. People will just have to shift to other things if they want to be successful. The entire trades industry desperately needs new talent and pays in a lot of case even better than what a video game developer can make. Opportunities are out there.

[@billy_cross]

Janitor AI can do certain things it cannot replace a butt load of developers in making a good game. That’s just a simple fact and any game that’s predominantly made with AI will fail because it will just be bad and bad games fail, regardless of whether their woke or made with AI, they just failed because they’re bad.

[@TheFirstRealChewy]

Dude, the jobs will change. Its been changing for centuries.

[@BlinxESP]

As a game developer, AI is such a great tool to avoid doing tiring jobs... I am not sure if gamers understand how complicate making a game has become... AI offers some help. The only problem now it is that those new jobs that were created over this complication are been disrupted, but I am sure we will have more creative needs which will bring more man-power to it.

[@Left4Coragem]

Gaming is not a industry that needs to be massive like it is now. If the big companies use ai to thin down their overhead to the bare minimum and that creates such a downer of an environment that all the talented people leave, small teams can still make games just as fun and more interesting than big budget triple A titles. You can see it even now, how big studios as Bioware, Blizzard, Bethesda, as just hollow husks and have none of the talent that made the great games of the past. If ai becomes a relevant tool in the making of games, and allow the big studios that have access to it produce more content, that doesn't mean that content will attract more people, if the quality of said content is just shit.

[@thana7187]

At the same time, if game studios reject to use AI and take a long time to release games that fail, they also risk themself of losing jobs. If AI is used for laborous taks only, and devs focus on hancrafted immersive contents that will a lot boost gaming industries.

[@trap4925]

A.I will never replace human creativity. In the short term things like this will happen, however a room full of execs using A.I is never going to have the creative vision of a room full of artists using A.I. the tools have never been what makes the Art creative, its the artists. For the entire human history the tools have changed, but the creative force has always been human.

[@caurbine1228]

It’s going to be great for smaller creators. Just modding fallout would be amazing if I had AI to edit the armors and weapons to be balanced, attachments, etc and also detecting issues faster and fixing crashes. Also helping people get their creative story and environment from their brain into a media. However, where it will become an issue is when a AAA company or otherwise implements mechanics or gameplay that will manipulate and deceive people into paying more money (gambling, loot boxes, gaming mechanics that are fundamentally addictive). Utilizing AI to develop the most psychosocially addictive gameplay loops to dumb down gaming and getting kids hooked on a game that may impact their life negatively. Marketing as a whole and sales techniques are all based in psychological techniques to increase profit. Even down to the colors and font used in an ad can create a psychological response (McDonald’s and the color red and yellow, car salesman utilizing sneaky ways of saying things to get you to buy a car before really thinking about it) AI can be the greatest tool to create a better world and content, but will ultimately be used to pump up revenue and only making the problems with not just gaming, but every industry. Less workers, less pay, monopolies, inflation. It’s going to be scary to see where this goes. Heaven forbid AI becomes self aware. IRobot in real life

[@Cronoo]

If you didn't see this coming, you haven't been paying attention. Stop giving money to people who hate you

[@John04700]

The only way I see AI as a good thing in video game development is that indie game studios are going to make big, well-crafted open-world and linear games, like GTA, The Witcher, and Baldur's Gate and TLOUS. This is because indie developers are always looking to take the experience to the next level, as we're already seeing in smaller-scale games. For the big studios, hopefully AI will make the time to develop a game much shorter, and I know some studios will take the experience to the next level.

[@ggrex4852]

No AI can create a perfect and creative protagonist like Author Morgan, kratos and many other legends..

[@TremelJackson]

Ai has to train its style from somewhere, so is it really helpful or does it destroy the integrity of art as a whole?

[@TheDutchTexanGames]

I can't stand AI because it kills the art made by actual people. AI is literally stealing stuff to improve itself and there is no way to guarantee it didn't pull stuff from copyrighted material. I foresee this blowing up in a bad way for developers who go all in on it.

[@jhitcho2026]

You can see this coming years ago. Tech replacing humans in all industries. I will just have to stick to the classic games and not support gaming going forward if AI replaces people

[@atmosphere60]

Maybe game development costing hundreds of millions and involving teams of hundreds of people will be the death of the gaming industry, as corporate suits refuse to risk huge investments on innovative creativity and churn out nothing but derivative products which will see the industry sink into terminal decline. If AI can be used not to replace human ingenuity and creativity but to assist it to the point where even small teams can churn out AAA games, we might actually get to see far more creative and innovative games with high production values.

[@joedangelo5640]

Honestly, if AI means a new fallout, Elder Scrolls, God Of War, or Mario every 2 years, people will cease to care that AI was used; especially if the games are still good. After all, people were worried for about 5 minutes about self-check out and ordering kiosks, but that didn't stop them from being near universally adopted.

[@lambree4947]

Almost everyone behind a computer has the potential of being replaced by AI. And as robotics gets cheaper and more advanced, no job is safe. Its the future. We will be getting all forms of entertainment like music, tv/movies, articles, news, and video games a lot quicker with AI. Will save probably billions of dollars in half the time. And its literally maybe in 5-10 years away.

[@S3M3E3]

AI has been replacing jobs most people don’t want for years now. It’s not something new.

[@hexadecibelmusic]

Let’s not forget that now HR is using the same tools to vet potential hires as well. And the amount of people just never making it through the first round net has amplified. And this is across all careers. HR has taken as much of a hands off approach and laying all of it on these “AI” tools as well, and they just don’t have the same kind of capability when it comes to making judgment calls, and deciding what you’re willing to compromise on. These tools are stealing jobs across the board in this manner too.

[@ussliberty109]

Using AI to write your CV, submitting it to a website that uses AI to spam it out to fitting prospective employers, who then use AI to filter out the millions of applications they receive.

[@hexadecibelmusic]

@@ussliberty109 exactly. It’s a flawed system at every step.

[@Theduck8grapes]

Welp looks like there’s gonna be an actual game crash where no one buys videos games and theses bigger companies go completely under.