Why can't Fizz stay in his pole forever ? Because he is unbalanced.
@kris27079 жыл бұрын
Cyrax Kung ;D made my day
@lukechrampanis5549 жыл бұрын
Cyrax Kung lol
@jakobmaurer50389 жыл бұрын
Cyrax Kung LMAO :)
@ThePLKrystek9 жыл бұрын
Cyrax Kung Old but cool
@thanasismavropoulos61709 жыл бұрын
hahahahah i laughed so hard
@Szgerle8 жыл бұрын
This video is like the essence of bronze.
@jasonguo8309 жыл бұрын
well.. It's basically any champion that has an ability that can keep you from dying for a bit....
@rggrill35889 жыл бұрын
+TheCrasherOf Noon OMG Morde is designed so badly !2 of his abilities heal him and he has an shield that scales with his health! And he still has an negative Winrate as Top,Mid and ADC. I hope you can see the sarcasm in the first sentence without having to read this sentence.
@luanandreas9 жыл бұрын
The simple fact that a champion refuses to reward your efforts by simply refusing to die is pretty anti fun if you ask me
@ApollyonBainer9 жыл бұрын
+TheCrasherOf Noon Lol good old Trynd
@Sorakasharri8 жыл бұрын
+Luan Andres well then they should also remove all gap closing and escape mechanics while they are at it
@rggrill35888 жыл бұрын
Kien Soyokaze And all Sustain mechanics
@nothachimanhikigaya99219 жыл бұрын
here comes the hate since he said a person's fav champ is poorly designed. it's an opinion lol
@chanhien40009 жыл бұрын
Jamal Hunter Yup, and when there's a well designed champs list, "where is mine? dislike""
@jacobmorris32959 жыл бұрын
+Jamal Hunter I'm pretty sure it's not because of that. It's more the fact he says "x ability has no counter play" (Tryndamere R, Kayle R) when in fact they do have counterplay (CC??) Also, you can say a champion is unhealthy for the game but calling a champion strait up stupid (Annie) made him seem unintelligent without showing any backup evidence.. TL;DR- Jeremy thinks if 2 frustrating things are on the same champion then they're poorly designed. (Stealth, burst, invulnerability, CC, ect...)
@Colorado00919 жыл бұрын
+Jacob Morris You can counter almost everything with CC. CC is not a good reason for "Counterplay", every ADC is weak against CC and yes Tryndamere & others are also weak against CC, but they still have their abilities, making them to strong. You need to run away from a Tryndamere if he activates his ult, no chance to fight him. You can't afford to stand in annies ult + flash range if you don't want to die. I really like Annie, but I think she is broken only tanky champions have a chance against her, that's why I use her so often.
@NunyaBezwacks9 жыл бұрын
+Colorado0091 most of the champions he named can be beat by simply walking away at a curtain time in a fight or using that thing called a "team" this is a team game kid its what they are for.
@chopperhead20129 жыл бұрын
+Jamal Hunter no, this list is bad because OP is NOT the same thing as badly designed. Rengar, Olaf, and Vi aren't bad. They're powerful. Kat, Urgot, Yorick, Poppy, Akali, Yi, Yasuo, Garen, Fizz, and Annie are all either badly designed or stupidly powerful while taking no skill to play OR has a high risk/low reward ratio.
@JhoaoCkuNdari9 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree on the #2 spot. I don't know why but in every video about unbalanced, poorly designed champion or anything bad related to champions that Jeremy puts on youtube, there's ALWAYS a safe spot for Rengar there. That imo is a bit of butthurting on his part. Rengar is one of those champions that change the way the match is played, and people simply don't realize that. He has ONE chance to one-shot you, every 150/110/70 seconds, and the only thing you have to do is deny that. If Rengar can't get a flank on a important member of the enemy team, his utility on the overall game falls drastically. When you see the "!", its not just a "!", its a "Ok enemy team, there's a cat with insane burst potential just about to rape your carries. CC him." and its just that what you need to do to kill him. CC him. "Ooh but champion related mechanics don't count and bla bla", for that Riot gave you Zhonyas. The only thing you need to do is Recognize that HE IS AN ASSASSIN. He has 3.6k hp? Still an assassin. So what you should do is deny him the only chance he has to kill you. A lot of people don't know, but you can actually hit and/or apply CC on Rengar mid-jump. The 3.6k hp thing is just his tradeoff for not having a failsafe scape like every other assassin does. You think invisibility makes Rengar unfair to play agains? Well, Akali has invisibility and it's worse because she can hit you and simply walk back to her smokescreen and voila, she's invisible again. LeBlanc? She can one shot both your carrys, press W and voila, she's on the other side of the map. But no, Rengar is OP, Rengar having ONE SINGLE CHANCE to murder your carries with no way to get out once he's in is unfair. Of course it is. You disapointed me on this one, Jeremy.
@lem0nPlays139 жыл бұрын
+JhoaoCkuNdari Besides it takes really good map awareness and control to efficiently execute with Rengar.
@sorryforthewaitpx9 жыл бұрын
JhoaoCkuNdari it's weird you think akali is worse to play against, because the only thing you need to do to counter her "escape" is buying a pink PLUS she does not have 3.6k hp like rengar. On top of that, akali is pretty much useless before lvl 6, while rengar... Akali is in a weak spot right now, that's why they are planing to rework her.
@DantinozMC9 жыл бұрын
JhoaoCkuNdari butthurt rengar player spotted!
@JhoaoCkuNdari9 жыл бұрын
DantinozMC Well... That's not true. While I do like Rengar very much, I wouldn't go as far as saying he's not strong. But in this video you see him being mentioned as a "Bad designed champion" while he's the only assassin in the whole game that doesn't have the "Get in, kill as much people as you can, get out" mechanic. He's the only assassin that can get "tanky", because once he decides to jump in someone there's no way back. He doesn't have a scape or anything that can put him out of a fight. I don't see how you can call that a bad design, as he has clear weaknesses, and if you don't exploit them is either because you didn't look close enough to find them, or because you simply find saying "GG rengar op rito pls nerf" on /all chat much easier.
@JhoaoCkuNdari9 жыл бұрын
sorryforthewaitpx Rengar can be countered by pinks as much as Akali, in a matter of fact, any champion with stealth on its kit can be, that's why I didn't even bother mentioning that. Also, her "scape" isn't her stealth but her ulti, a good Akali player knows that her R isn't just a gapcloser, it can get you in and out of a fight if used correctly, not to mention that her stealth can be used over and over and over by simply walking back to her smoke screen. And I didn't even mention that now her ulti makes so she goes behind your character, which means that it's a lot easier for you to miss an akali when she ults you, because she'll move to your back. As I stated before, the 3.6k thing is the tradeoff Rengar has for not having a single scape and one hard-cc that if used, takes off a lot of his burst potential in exchange. Also Akali isn't in a bad spot, you just have to build Will of the Ancients on her instead of hextec gunblade, try this: WoA, Rilay & Liandry's as your core items, you have room for 3 more situational items. I swear to you, try this and you'll see that she's strong and people just didn't realize that yet. And the fact that she's useless before 6 is a valid point but it's far from compensating the fact that after she gets her ulti she can pretty much just spaghetti all over the keyboard and it will work, I know that because I play her a lot. And as I said before, Rengar can be stopped mid-jump, just keep that in mind when playing against him and you'll see that it is a lot easier to kill him by simply CC-ing him mid-jump, it doesnt even need to be a hard CC, it can be soft CC like Cait's E or Draven's E, you just need to see him coming and have a decent reaction time.
@spaceprincess57288 жыл бұрын
Gotta love how this is just a list of champions you don't like facing. Huh.
@SatoKibafuku8 жыл бұрын
+Nonon Nation He explained that in the first ten seconds of the video, "unfair mechanics/no counterplayer" nice visual and audio comprehension!!!!!
@NortexG9 жыл бұрын
I hate these type of video topics, they always appeal to every bronze player who blames everything else as why the suck, which nobody likes to hear. Then we got the mains of these 'unfair' champs who also don't want to hear it, you know what's frustrating, complaining about the game all the time.
@heyheyshafty9 жыл бұрын
So why the fuck are you watching his videos ? If you don't like them, stop watching them and be mature
@firesong78259 жыл бұрын
NortexG - Art if you don't complain about the game nothing gets changed ergo you have to lane against these boring "I'm totes balanced" champs
@QuackOP9 жыл бұрын
NortexG - Art Yeah Ive noticed that the most people who say for example Riven is OP havent even played her, ofc you are going to have a hard time playing against a Riven if you dont know her weaknesses and also people who say a X champion is to OP in that moment takes away the fault on themselves and therefore never learns from their mistakes which makes them think that the champion is a lot stronger then it actually is. Like I personally think Diana is OP and I realized that I should stop have that mentality and every time I die to a Diana not just say: OMG Diana to stronk, thats probably why I hate her so much because I literally paint out a picture of her which is un.avoidable since I dont even think about the possibility of that I maybe should have played it differently except for the obvious DODGE HER Q. Anyways a bit rambly but really wanted to get that out. So tired of people being ignorant.
@haudaunaruto29799 жыл бұрын
NortexG - Art havent you realized that this game is broken ?
@nyeffer94149 жыл бұрын
haudau naruto Things that are broken can be reforge - Riven Hahaha I not a Riven Main but I do commend their hard work on mastering her
@lucasgarcia41939 жыл бұрын
i thought this video would talk about the champions which a kit that does not make sense, like miss fortune, but i see that you only included champions that you thinck are op or fruatrate you.
@exi-thes3lowka7229 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@Toxihex9 жыл бұрын
lucas garcía What's wrong with Miss Fortune? She's a crazy spoiled sexy teenage girl, I see nothing out of the ordinary in her kit.
@xiconp19939 жыл бұрын
lucas garcía Not really, he stated that these champions are not necessarily op, they are poorly designed because they have some bs mechanics, which are unhealthy to the game.
@722blitz9 жыл бұрын
lucas garcía he stated at the beginning that he doesn't think these champion are op, just that they offer little counterplay or just have a very anti fun kit.
@jhinpotion92309 жыл бұрын
dkz nikolaj "Her damage lategame is easily around Vayne's" i'm not sure what you're smoking but I want some
@ShallowContrarian8 жыл бұрын
After all these months, I'm still suprised there's no Vladimir, for fuck sake, Riot regretted releasing him.
@bogeyXXL9 жыл бұрын
i think vlad has a stupid kit with a hextech he can stay in lane for ever
@Quo2109 жыл бұрын
greg hrastar Not really... All in champions can deal with Vlad very well, It's common knowledge how badly Vlad loses lane against Irelia, Riven or Malphite. If you try to beat him in HIS game (sustain and small trades), he'll most likely win. He's now less about sustain now that spellvamp was nerfed again
@ThePLKrystek9 жыл бұрын
greg hrastar I played a lot of rankeds with vlad and i disagree with you, he can't stay on lane forever :)
@LePrinceLolz9 жыл бұрын
greg hrastar ya idk why vlad wasnt on here. Riot themselves said vlad shouldnt have even been released.
@XMBarrett9 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Rengifo Any Vlad who loses lane to Malphite is seriously bad. Vlad counters him in almost every way. Sustain, range, magic damage, etc. The only trait they both have is a weak early game, so Malphite must get ganks in his favour in order to win.
@costavajorji55559 жыл бұрын
Yea, but he also has 0 CC, so I think he is kinda balanced
@bowserjrdm9 жыл бұрын
Irelia should be here with her 0 counterplay 2 sec stun, 2 sustain spells, refreshing gapcloser, true + physical + magic dmg, free tenacity, and high base dmg so u can still 1v4 when almost full tank.
@nyeffer94149 жыл бұрын
NightcoreAnimeLoLAssassinPlayer o counter play, she can be CC'ed, Almost anyone can out damage her with burst and her sustain is very insignificant without atleast one item, her true damage is AA reliant unlike Olaf which is much strong and easier to apply cause it's just one hit
@yeman2179 жыл бұрын
NightcoreAnimeLoLAssassinPlayer I mean... An alright Malphite does it.
@kindredsol99339 жыл бұрын
Jeffherson Vega She can be cc'd... Pfft, what about her passive?
@quinniebe97759 жыл бұрын
NightcoreAnimeLoLAssassinPlayer "0 counterplay" ??? Have you ever played Irelia? D:
@yeman2179 жыл бұрын
vvvortics fried chicken Well I mean Malphite, Olaf and Tryndamere can counter her kinda well. Plus she loses very hard to Riven if she can't play the matchup well. She has counterplay, but she is very strong.
@MrFlyingEskimo8 жыл бұрын
Lol fizz is at the front of everything negative about league of legends.
@putkaputkov41128 жыл бұрын
agree :D
@Bruineboon038 жыл бұрын
Nah
@timwaya86087 жыл бұрын
drash79 xd holy shit your salty
@TheWolfDawg7 жыл бұрын
well, he may be salty, but he's also right.
@TheWolfDawg7 жыл бұрын
Andrei Moisi that's because he has one of the hardest kits to deal with in the game. Really, if they just gave his e a decent cooldown, something like 12-14 seconds at max level (with no cd reduction) , then fizzes would have to be a lot more careful about charging in and thus he has more counterplay. i just 100 % ban the champion because the risk of a fizz snowballing out of control from me making one or two misjudgements or mistakes is higher than just about any other champion. For me at least; some people are just a lot better at dealing with him.
@Scarletraven879 жыл бұрын
Poppy as #1 is really unexpected, and I can deal with it. But saying that her gap closer is "strong" is pure heresy. It's a short range target spell, that has a chance of stunning, but it's knockback is a negative aspect because it puts Poppy and her target closer to the target's teammates, making its real utility very situational. There is a large variety of champions that have better gap closers. Even just the stupid Trynda, even if it's defined as dash
@firesong78259 жыл бұрын
Doran Martell doesn't matter if she gets close to the enemy, she has her ult
@Scarletraven879 жыл бұрын
Echo TheEcho Renekton is such a problem when he has engaged, but I wouldn't call his gap closer good. Same for Garen. And Flash + R + Hourglass doesn't make anyone strong at gap closing.
@nyeffer94149 жыл бұрын
Doran Martell with a % health dam and combine ult of Olaf and kayle, that's just wrong and that's the reason she is #1
@firesong78259 жыл бұрын
Doran Martell its not great but it's good enough. Lets her get a free insanely powerful Q off too.
@E00119 жыл бұрын
Doran Martell I literally was decently fed (Not over fed tho) so I went in 1v4 and killed everyone I think?Anyways pick more than one and lived that's for sure,Poppy was made like the balance in DotA was,did you know Annie had a 5 second on her passive?
@sapphirepanda7739 жыл бұрын
IMO Vi is one of best designed champions in game. She isnt overpowered, there is always place in meta for her and also she isnt as frustrating as everyone says. Her nice and friendly to play kit makes her one of ''most-softy'' LoL champions.
@quinniebe97759 жыл бұрын
Sapphire Panda I agree with this, but I can understand why she is on the list. Her ultimate is pretty strong, and she can escape almost any situation by q'ing through a wall, etc. However, her damage output and cd's make her balanced imo, so I agree with both you and Jeremy.
@Kappaking-mh3zh9 жыл бұрын
Sapphire Panda No just no.
@XhunterDragon969 жыл бұрын
You obviously aren't a main adc....
@nyeffer94149 жыл бұрын
Quindayo B that's why she is so low in the list despite having an unstoppable ult with hard CC and % dam with armor pen if I am correct on her kit
@sapphirepanda7739 жыл бұрын
Jeffherson Vega Skarner has even worse ulty. Malza too Zed too Urgot too But they arent on the list because their ulties define themselves and without them they are 0.
@EverythingThatIsCool9 жыл бұрын
I highly disagree with Annie being poorly designed, she is a PERFECT champ for new players to learn the game with. She is the perfect training wheels that is why I would take her off this list. Basic mechanics for basic players.
@Arvanyev9 жыл бұрын
+gage kellogg the problem aren't the new players trying to learn the game the problem are the good enough players abusing her
@EverythingThatIsCool9 жыл бұрын
Fair enough
@bayasgalantsogtgerel33468 жыл бұрын
+ChimpyCheese if she flash stuns you, than it's pretty much over if you weren't to CC her beforehand.
@CresProductions8 жыл бұрын
+gage kellogg If "Basic mechanics for basic people" is a rule you think Riot should abide to, then 450 IP champions should be banned from ranked queues. Master Yi and Annie require no skill whatsoever aside from timing and build paths to be useful in a team, let alone take on an entire team on their own.
@elfgeld71128 жыл бұрын
annie got like no counterplay like pantheon
@robertfancyman38739 жыл бұрын
If Singed isn't on here I'm going to be disappointed.
@robertfancyman38739 жыл бұрын
I'm disappointed.
@ThePLKrystek9 жыл бұрын
Robert Fancyman rofl
@DodgyDan49 жыл бұрын
Robert Fancyman Singed is a rather tough champ to dominate with imo
@robertfancyman38739 жыл бұрын
DodgyDan4 I never said he was good. However, Proxy Singed is the most annoying thing in League by a country mile.
@marcellopz509 жыл бұрын
Robert Fancyman What?! Singed is so well designed his name is an anagram of "design"
@tropicson9 жыл бұрын
how to counterplay rengar, pink wards. . . ???
@gardist9 жыл бұрын
Notelirivers pinkwards doesn't exist below plat
@4yoyoman9 жыл бұрын
Ätharrr as a mid laner i cant stop buying them lol
@CardinalSpirit9 жыл бұрын
Notelirivers Sometimes it doesn't matter if you see Rengar if he does 1000+ damage to you in 1 hit and jumps on you the instant you see the "!"
@tropicson9 жыл бұрын
ForEvergreen CS so many champions can do that though.
@FlyingJetpack19 жыл бұрын
Ätharrr They do exsist, but no one notice they are there. Some games can run fully without getting killed. Search in youtube: "the little ward that could" and see what I mean >.>
@supaonyxian8 жыл бұрын
i cant help but get the feeling that this video is just ragey instead of the normal informative style of these videos
@Heika_1018 жыл бұрын
+Onyxiboy Indeed, it looks more like a "champs which make me rage" video than anything else.
@PKrazorleaf8 жыл бұрын
lol? do you main one of these retarded champions or whats your problem? he justified everything he said just right, and its all the truth obviously.
@Heika_1018 жыл бұрын
Lelouch I don't main any of those champ but when you ear something like "tryn RNG" you understand it's only rage cause their is no tryn RNG just crit one and it's the same for every champs
@nova_supreme83908 жыл бұрын
+Lelouch For me the felling of raging stems from the fact that on the clips the enemies are getting outplayed super hard. It is not. Like those games looked like "silver against diamond" -level crap. Not only did the enemies get pwned, but they pwned themselves too. The message on narrative and on video clips mismatch in that regard. All in all, he makes good points what are problems in these champs. P.S. I do not really play any of those champions, bu neither have I faced such games portrayed in the clips. Annoying champions, yes, but nothing overpowering.
Quinn ?? LOLOLOL i can now tell which division you are in.
@peteryang65859 жыл бұрын
+Juan Correa Ikr
@LampiShu9 жыл бұрын
+Juan Correa its not about op champs its about champs which arent designed very good. And Quinn is not a very well designed champ. She is a ADC which has to go in meele range to use her ult. The rest of her kit isnt strong as well in comparison to other adcs. She only has a semi random dmg amplifier and her w only reveals a little bit around her.
@ohlala95469 жыл бұрын
Red Shell with quinn yas and teemo in it i guess u r a toplane main? - just guessin ^^
@ohlala95469 жыл бұрын
Juan Correa actually ever played vs quinn top? u think gnar or teemo is annoying? play vs quinn and u will really have the feeling of having no chance to defeat her / outplay her.. additionally quinn isnt even picked much in lower elo - in diamond to challenger she is picked on toplane to denie the shit out of a normally dominant toplaner
@mariomoreira925 жыл бұрын
8:20 I was actually premade with Lucian and Fizz and was the Sona who died right at the start of the clip xD it hits me right in the feels to see this clip since neither of them play anymore (both quit around 2016-2017) and it's so nostalgic. Since we were pretty noob we never expected to even do well in the game let alone show up in a league of legends video of a youtuber we all regularly watched so even if it seems like something that doesn't really mean much it did to us back then as kids So thank you Jeremy, for hav ing made our days.
@alastairbond71048 жыл бұрын
Seems to complain at ults being powerful but isn't that their point? Also seems to dislike any character that can kill adcs
@Krend3r8 жыл бұрын
Stilll Vi is bullshit and always was, thanks god I rarely see her nowadays.
@limpingkyoti41016 жыл бұрын
seems like some1 is an adc main or mage that spams abilities w/o even knowing what his main is Example: He is zed and laning against fizz. fizz:'e' zed:'USES EVERY ABILITY KNOWN TO MAN WHILE FIZZ IS IN THE AIR' fizz:'q,auto,w,auto' zed:THIS IS THE MOST BROKEN CHAMP EVER all chat:zed you idiot give the account back to owner
@larifari12oder38 жыл бұрын
i think the most ubfair champ is shaco. he is like the old eve. Suddenly he is next to you and you are dead. just ridiculous
@andre-gamingcontent17078 жыл бұрын
you're joking right?
@allardbuurman89748 жыл бұрын
+.cUp ツ - Gaming Content i hope he is
@andre-gamingcontent17078 жыл бұрын
***** The thing is, I am too. I don't know why it's hard to place pinks. Also with Zed, like why can't you wait for him to use his ult and W to flash/use a movement item and get away from him
@larifari12oder38 жыл бұрын
I am Gold 3 dunno if its low elo. Also I cant have pink wards all over the place especially when I am the Jungler^^ also to remind you: the zed r has a lower cooldown than flash^^
@andre-gamingcontent17078 жыл бұрын
Fabienne wtf why does that matter
@LaatiMafia9 жыл бұрын
"Tryndamere's passive is RNG", meanwhile Yasuo gets same bonus with 17,5% crit chance..
@rggrill35889 жыл бұрын
+Laatikkomafia Trynda gets 35% crit-chance at lvl1 without items or runes Yasou gets 35% at lvl1 by having to buy Items for it and have runes that give crit-chance See the difference now?
@LaatiMafia9 жыл бұрын
Yasuo's passive becomes mathematically better than Tryndamere's after 19% crit chance. Yet Yasuo's passive isn't RNG, Tryndamere's is -.-
@rggrill35889 жыл бұрын
Yasou is not in the video and he didn't say that his passive isn't RNG only that Trynda's is RNG. And i think that he said that it's RNG because he gets even more Crit-chance when he crits.
@LaatiMafia9 жыл бұрын
Yasuo gets double the crit chance even without attacking.
@rggrill35889 жыл бұрын
But he has to spend gold while trynda only needs to AA once to get 1,75% crit-chance i think which is doubled when critting.
@rasmuswilli10448 жыл бұрын
Illlllaoi?
@N120158 жыл бұрын
+Rasmus Willi She wasn`t available six months ago, but yes, a tank without CC, like illaoi, is a really bad idea for this metagame.
@slykeren83718 жыл бұрын
+Rasmus Willi that is stupid, have you ever played illaoi? she is very easy to counter just dont fight with her tentacles and when she ults just run. shes op if you fight her with her ult but just dont,
@doozku4508 жыл бұрын
+Bush Wookie The point is that she is weak, not op
@slykeren83718 жыл бұрын
Doozku DX I will agree that she is op in some ways but not broken.
@bassonly6668 жыл бұрын
+Rasmus Willi this was before illaoi was released dude, just check the date..
@Darkwarior529 жыл бұрын
Ok three questions, Where is riven, Where is Heimerdingerdongerfucker, and Where is Yasuo.
@Zadamanim9 жыл бұрын
SlySpyKurt None of those champs are unkillable like Fizz, Poppy, or Trynd.
@bradyrewell61309 жыл бұрын
Riven is a really strong champion, I agree on that. Heim is just annoying and not many people play him in high Elo, but Yasuo? He is very well designed and you definitely have to know how to play him to carry.
@goncalopereira21109 жыл бұрын
+SlySpyKurt What about Garen and Trundle?
@k73739 жыл бұрын
+SlySpyKurt Btw name of the video is: Top 10 Worst Designed Champions in League of Legends not Top 10 OP Champions in League of Legends
@Darkwarior529 жыл бұрын
Fine, :/
@NotsofatTheGamer8 жыл бұрын
1. Katarina (3 Sec Pentakill) 2. Zed (Ultimate that when you think you got out, Boom! Death) 3. Yasuo (You have a skill shot ultimate? Let me block it) 4. Fizz (I like to be Untargetable) 5. Annie (Do you like stuns? I like stuns) 6. Shaco (I like to vanish) 7. Fiora (Like dancing? So do I. ) 8. Heimerdinger (Don't come near me. I have turrets) 9. Master Yi (Trying to run away? NOPE.) 10. Rengar (See that exclamation mark? It's your death call)
@ethereal-alice8 жыл бұрын
most of these characters kits are fantastic... your list is "10 champs I hate"
@ggwp638BC8 жыл бұрын
+Notsofat The Gamer Your list is BS, most of these have counterplays: - Katarina: ANY CC - Zed:Just tell your support to watch for the zed, and ap buy zhonyas. - Yasuo: if you play it right, it will be quite hard to let him into the fight. Unless, of course, you've fed him early game. - Shaco: with the vision changes, Shaco got buffed, but he still too weak. For the champion to be effective, the player needs to master it, which takes time and the result isn't that great. - Heimerdinger: just watch out for the turrets, learn how aggro works. - Master Yi: Snare and exhaust.
@StoutKen8 жыл бұрын
man i know this comes up a lot but just comparing to heroes in dota, some of these things that feel "unfair" or little outplay mechanic seems kinda ridiculous. These champions have their own negatives, they also are just extremely powerful in certain situations. Should annie be allowed to stunlock and burst down squishy heroes, as is her job? yes, prevent her from doing so. The list goes on and on with all your reasons for "acceptable forms of counterplay". Some champions have to be worked around with how you handle them in the game, not just in each laning situation.
@StoutKen8 жыл бұрын
+Flogron Yeahhh i have around 1.5k hours, it just feels like some champions in league do have some pretty strong kits that must be counter picked against, i guess like kat and some of the others mentioned in the video. Some of the champions in league are just so underwhelming at times even with a decent farm position it feels off
@StoutKen8 жыл бұрын
+Flogron so yes as in many cases just prevent from snowballing. I guess the issue is as Jeremy said we should not look at this as a balance issue, certain champions have very little counterplay to while still not being "overpowered". Id just argue that this is an ok situation to have
@suckieduckie8 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's viewed as a balance issue by Riot. There are tons of champions designed to get a kill in lane or be underwhelming until you get some items.
@Ascentyon9 жыл бұрын
I honestly disagree with like 80% of this list. Saying a champion is poorly designed because he is unkillable when fed/ahead is very wrong. You can shut down poppy/olaf/rengar so hard in lane they'll have nightmares, if played correctly. Also, kayle's ultimate is designed to counter assassin's. Etc, etc.
@azqq15269 жыл бұрын
ThundersLeague You must play cancer champs then
@slverfang8 жыл бұрын
the salt of this video is bad designed
@jae77988 жыл бұрын
+David Almaguer He didn't put riven XD
@J05H09877 жыл бұрын
Riven isn't poorly designed
@matthewbache16397 жыл бұрын
David Almaguer your grammar is badly designed.
@Faraonqa9 жыл бұрын
Where's Skilven ? Not that she is ez to play its just that she has what 2 stuns insane dmg 4 gap closers on no cd and 300+ shield on 2 sec cd which makes her unkillable with full ad build.
@510zezo9 жыл бұрын
Olaf? olaf is "broken" cuz you cant cc him for 8 seconds? just use an escape ffs, "adcs know the fear of playing against an olaf" from top 5 adcs that are played right now (vayne jinx caitlyn graves sivir, in that order) only 1 has to worry about olaf, and thats jinx, vayne can just tumble out of his axe and go invisible for 9 hours and get 3 autos on him and he dies, cait can just net out, graves can either kill him with one combo or E out of an axe, sivir can spellshield an axe and match his move speed with ult, practically 80% of adcs dont fear olaf,maybe twitch urgot ashe varus and jinx do but thats it, and also, why the fuck is vlad not on the list? the only thing he needs in a game is to hit 150 cs, no matter how far he is if he finishes that rylai and rabadons with speel vamp, you know ur fucked cuz he can heal every 2 secs, fuck ur adc with one rotation, and did i mention he also has 3k plus hp? all in all this is a list of "i dont how to play against these champs so i consider them broken" not the worst designed, sure annie and fizz are broken, trynda too, but kayle? she needs a retarded jungler against her to let her get an early devourer
@perfekt95769 жыл бұрын
Shaman King i agree with you but nobody in lcs or something like that Plays caitlyn or graves anymore :D the top 5 adcs are sivir, kalista, vayne, jinx and corki right now.
@510zezo9 жыл бұрын
Perfekt still only jinx can get caught :P
@vviheifc9 жыл бұрын
Shaman King Cait and Corki both have long CD escapes and in high level of play people will know how to coordinate a re-engage and guess what the escape wont be up.
@510zezo9 жыл бұрын
vviheifc if you are talking about high level play then the adc will also know not to over extend and his team will know how to protect him, and thus the olaf will be useless unless he has a homegaurd and doesnt get hit, or engages after the fight started
@vviheifc9 жыл бұрын
Thats the thing at that same level that Olaf player will know other ways to get to the adc and because he deals true dmg to the enemy he can help a team get through a front line faster while taking more dmg with his ult, and a homegaurd play with Olaf is devasating, IMO a tp play with him is just as devastating as a hecarim or maokai tp play
@Lkabss9 жыл бұрын
Was this after or before the juggernaut patch?
@IsaacLiddicoat9 жыл бұрын
After I believe
@kaptaintemo74988 жыл бұрын
+Isaac COD & More! it was before
@sloppiipapi56488 жыл бұрын
+Isaac COD & More! Juggernaut patch was worlds patch. For some fucking reason.
@DarkIchijo019 жыл бұрын
Counterplay-wise, you forgot leblanc. q, r, w, e you're dead. Rinse and repeat
@maliksi2399 жыл бұрын
Build magic resist,GG
@firesong78259 жыл бұрын
Maliksi Zymon then she just does the combo twice. Not like you can punish her for going in cause she'l just teleport back.
@Raiwin9 жыл бұрын
***** leblanc really isnt, just outsmarting her will work, if you can outsmart the W shes fucked
@nyeffer94149 жыл бұрын
***** God, maybe cc her with a targeted skill or a well executed skillshot like a Xerath or annie maybe almost any caster can beat a leb with equally skill players
@DarkIchijo019 жыл бұрын
Well, we can all agree that outsmarting leblanc is the counterplay to her, but as someone who is currently climbing the ladder with her, below maybe Gold III, people really just don't
@JavierPwns9 жыл бұрын
This video reeks of the "everybody is a winner" attitude. There's always something you can do regardless of champion... It's called get good
@DeadMouse329 жыл бұрын
Javier Navarro except for tryndamere and annie
@mattflash149 жыл бұрын
Nothing you can do vs annie
@ansurysayer12279 жыл бұрын
mattflash14 support olaf bot, pop her and her adc cherry every day :D
@FryingBerries9 жыл бұрын
mattflash14 Don't group ? it's ridiculously easy to fight annie all you have to do is not bunch up like idiots, if she has to use her ult to kill one target she will die after that cause she had to go melee range, also you can flash her ult or zhonya and many other ways to avoid it. Just predict it ?
@Adoribull13129 жыл бұрын
Javier Navarro *git gud please know your memes
@ameslee21538 жыл бұрын
Remember the time where the red buff and blue buff has 2 little guys fighting for them together and killing one of the small little guy and killing the buff leaving one little guy for the enemy?
@wilkatis9 жыл бұрын
Trynda the only champ in game who can crit naturally? Someone forgot about Ashe
@BF3jonhson109 жыл бұрын
wilkatis ashe's crits aren't as powerful as a normal crit, unless u build a certain amount of crit chance, thus making trynda the only champ with "normal" crits within their kits. I think that's at least what he meant
@Atukaski9 жыл бұрын
wilkatis If you don't build anything on ashe her crits are like, 110% damage? Which basically aint too much different.... However, like 2-3 lucky crits on top lane early on can mean you lost your lane and the tryn snowballing from top lane to bottom lane and onto your nexus... Well, only way to really outplay tryn is cc... or malzahar ult (5 sec supress vs 5 sec of undying , ur undying rage is bound to run out first.......)
@thalli32219 жыл бұрын
Ashe actually doesn't even crit normally only when she has her slow/stun onto the target which means she has to meet cetain conditions to crit
@maliksi2399 жыл бұрын
But your auto attacks on ashe has passive slows.
@E00119 жыл бұрын
Atukaski Malzahar's ult is kinda like Bane's ult from DotA 2 but say thanks to Rito gods his ult is not actually 5 seconds and longer like Bane's ult is
@morte12388 жыл бұрын
That moment u go vs trynda top rengar jg fizz mid kayle support and annie apc
@JiF_cos8 жыл бұрын
What I don't like about this topic is the fact that "bad design" is much more subjective than you think. Everything is relative because, as a Dota 2 and Season 1 LoL player, I'm used to dealing with characters that seem batshit-crazy-overpowered in certain situations and the "counterplay" to them is better team strategy that exploits their obvious weaknesses. I know that most of champions on this list are going to be characters with dumb, overloaded kits, but it's a shame that other kinds of characters with an interesting strategic niche or a novel mechanics (Olaf) have been (or will be) neutered because Riot painted themselves into a corner with their design choices.
@ArtyfexRS9 жыл бұрын
Vi's ultimate can be QSS'ed easily. She will still jump to you but it wont knock you up.
@KabiPac9 жыл бұрын
ArtyfexRS QSS does not remove knock ups. She will knock you up, for one second, thats it. Riot actually said that they made it like that on purpose, so you can effectively screw over one enemy, which is the purpose of her kit
@XemnasKH9 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'd say Vi is probably one of the best designed champions actually. She's always been strong but never really op. Her ult is very telegraphed and if she doesn't have backup she will probably just die.
@qzxerty8 жыл бұрын
Respectfully I disagree with around half of your choices. Vladimir surely takes the cake closely followed by Xin and Nautilus. A poorly designed champion isn't just öne that can duel well, it's one that is either totally weak or ridiculously OP depending on the item /ability numbers that you assign to them. Trynd needs plenty of uninterrupted farming (hint, ganks) to get to his unstoppable state, Fizz requires top notch mechanics and can be safely bullied in lane by many ranged champions. Good video though, it's interesting to hear other's thoughts on what is bad design.
@christianhuang96738 жыл бұрын
+qzxerty "top notch mechanics" he can have 10 cs and solo kill any laner just by using a defensive/offensive ability that gives you a 1 second window of invulnerability.
@qzxerty8 жыл бұрын
+Christian Huang not really imo. For the sake f full disclosure im platinum V atm not a challenger player. Im a viktor main so i see a lot of fizz mids. Hes just like leblanc you have to be able to predict where hes going to land and chasing him around jungle isnt going to end well for most junglers. The invuln is annoying but he has to land at the end of it. Granted this video was made during the ad tank fizz meta which got fizz nerfed.
@christianhuang96738 жыл бұрын
qzxerty fizz has characteristics a lot like what you talk about (really bad with bad numbers really good with good numbers) like a lot of other assassins. I think what makes fizz inherently anti fun is the same that makes vlad dumb to deal with, except vlad whittles you in lane whereas fizz all ins you.
@suckieduckie8 жыл бұрын
nearly all the things you mentioned have to do with balance and not champion design. A champion being weak is not attributed to their kit, but to the damage numbers on the kit.
@qrunner35834 жыл бұрын
How is vlad there. Hes w is 20 secnd cooldown. All his attack are aoe. Execpt his q which isnt strong until he is fed.
@DemoIn9 жыл бұрын
"Top 10 most frustrating champions to play against" is the real name on this list. There's a difference between design and effectiveness.
@LattWest9 жыл бұрын
I disagree with Vi completely. She has hardly been nerfed since release compared to some champions. Her kit is also very healthy for the game in my opinion. She's easy to pick up but difficult to master and is a ton of fun to play as and against.
@OliW3r9 жыл бұрын
Latt Let me guess, Vi main?
@Arvensa9 жыл бұрын
Latt Her ult is one of the least fun, interesting, or dynamic abilities in the entire game to play against. The ONLY way to disarm the stun is Morgana shield, and then she is still in your face, possibly with another one or two gap closers in reserve, doing tons of damage while being too tanky to kill first. The ult is also on a pretty low cooldown, so it's very hard to find an engagement opportunity between her 'up-time'. I'm not saying she's obviously overpowered or you can't win against her, but she's frustrating as hell for squisheys, epecially ones without a dash.
@FryingBerries9 жыл бұрын
Viron Darkstar You can zhonya her ult if you're adc you can QSS so stop bitching...
@Arvensa9 жыл бұрын
QSS 1. Doesn't remove knock-ups, and 2. Doesn't protect from CC after it's activated. What I should do is sacrifice Summoner Heal for Summoner Cleanse. Oh wait, that doesn't work on knock-ups either.
@josephsherby9 жыл бұрын
+Viron Darkstar if you QSS her ult she stops charging at you.
@WalterLiddy8 жыл бұрын
The only one I'd really agree with is Fizz.
@TheBacksideboys8 жыл бұрын
this isnt the 10 worst designed champions.. These are YOUR 10 most frustrating champions to play against.
@HowToDraw1128 жыл бұрын
Every of your clips is just showing the skill of the player and not the OPness of the champ.
@potentiallyRealWarrenGraham8 жыл бұрын
+Spartacus Art™ These champs are not overpowered. Many of them are/were underpowered even. They simply have a kit that prevents them from riot ever making them viable, since once they are viable, they are automatically OP.
@biggrizzle988 жыл бұрын
+Warren Graham that makes no sense
@potentiallyRealWarrenGraham8 жыл бұрын
jamieson grosseibl Au contraire, it makes a shitton of sense. You just dont seem to get it.
@biggrizzle988 жыл бұрын
no i get that you contradicted everything you said in less than 2 sentences.
@potentiallyRealWarrenGraham8 жыл бұрын
jamieson grosseibl Explain where I contradict myself.
@pierreakol35569 жыл бұрын
Take Vi out of the list and put shaco high up there
@nemanjaz.91139 жыл бұрын
+Pierre Akol DONT TALK SHIT ABOUT MY MAIN!
@vsmoraes08 жыл бұрын
+Pierre Akol Why Shaco is poorly designed? He is actually one of the better designed champions in the game, specially considering that he is one of the oldest champions in the game. You have two ways on his kit to proc your passive in extended fights (boxes for jungle clears, possibly the clon for 1v1) 3 of his abilities are EXTREMMELY versatile and can perform numerous combos, offensive and defensive, and he is not unhealthy at all. He is just a burst assassin with a versatile kit.
@EnglishRosie8 жыл бұрын
+Vinícius Silva Moraes Shaco has stealth and essentially has a longer range flash on his q. He is EXTREMELY difficult to keep up with and is just generally frustrating to play against since he has SO much outplay potential. He doesn't even have to commit because of how slippery his kit makes him.
@vsmoraes08 жыл бұрын
***** And that's how an assassin is supposed to be. His Q might be overloaded, I agree, but still, just a pink ward and he is done. Many, many champions can jump over walls, and stealt is easily countered by true sight, and in Shaco's case is even worse because he have no other sources of mobility. You HAVE to use all of your spells if you want to escape a sticky situation against an agerage player. Deceive them with the clon, have a escape route with boxes, while still using your Q wisely. If you think he is poorly designed just because he is slippery, Zed, LeBlanc, Ekko, Fizz, Kassadin and maaaaaaaany other assassins share this feature, and even some other champions like Kalista, Udyr and Vayne too. If you think that Shaco is frustrating to play against, how about hard snowballing champions like Katarina, Riven and Yasuo, that if ahead, seems to just kill everything thrown at them? Or Gnar and even Kalista that is just impossible to get close without proper mobility?
@blockhead1348 жыл бұрын
+Pierre Akol Shaco is VERY well designed because stat wise, he is terrible. The only way he can keep up with other champions is the fact that his kits allows players to outwit their enemies
@riley4609 жыл бұрын
I disagree on a few of these and I'll say why: Annie - She absolutely has counterplay in the form of prediction(which is a huge part of counterplay) and she is EXTREMELY immobile. She has low-ish base move speed and the only move speed item that you're likely to build on her, aside from boots, is Luden's. She is also medium-low range, at least in the current state of the meta, where ranged champions are favored in the mid lane. Rengar - I strongly disagree that having stealth is an >unfair< advantage. Stealth is a sort of high risk high reward ability in league because, in most cases, it only works until you start hitting someone. It can be a huge advantage and catch people off-guard, but the downfall is that if your combo fails and your target gets away, you're likely too deep in to get away. Also, being a difficult champion to play to his full potential makes him weaker for most of us. Champions that I think would fit better into this list: Shaco/heimer - They're champions that are super susceptible to crowd control and have very limited use in a group setting. They have to catch you in their territory, where they are ridiculously overpowered and their options are basically either get fed and do so much damage that you can carry team fights or split push and pigeon-hole your team into having to play 4v5 in many cases. I don't like champions that force the rest of your team to feel like they have to play around you. You should pick(and riot should create) champions that are a beneficial component to the whole of your team.
@EightTinyRats8 жыл бұрын
i would be mad if someone played yorick... but no one plays yorick...
@raziqrosli61988 жыл бұрын
i planning to buy yorick but my friend say everyone gonna hate me if i play him
@Elitezealot1238 жыл бұрын
I main Yorick :/
@khiverallreaper87378 жыл бұрын
+Elitezealot123 me too, and also I've got a Undertaker Yorick skin... xd
@sokutaboy238 жыл бұрын
+Raptor Jesus lvl 5 yorick here not my proudest achievements in lol
@khiverallreaper87378 жыл бұрын
i'm lv 5 on yorick too :P
@Monochromicornicopia9 жыл бұрын
Tryndamere's op status could be easily fixed by preventing his ult from being cast while stunned/knocked up/etc.
@vanthursday9 жыл бұрын
+Monochromicornicopia or just tank thornmail.. he'll just die from it without him even knowing..
@Monochromicornicopia9 жыл бұрын
vanthursday That's only a solution for a small minority of champions/positions.
@rggrill35889 жыл бұрын
+vanthursday Because he has to hit the guy with the thornmail...
@cenzala229 жыл бұрын
+Monochromicornicopia It was a longe time ago, i think it's fair because it was too easy to counter trynd. I disagree with a lot of champions in this list, trynd is one of them. His kit makes him VERY STRONG 1v1 but pretty much useless in a teamfight.
@Fearzzy8 жыл бұрын
+Monochromicornicopia no offense but this would be an awful solution and it would straight up destroy the chances he ever has to see challenger elo/competitive play.
@RockDeviI8 жыл бұрын
How to outplay Tryndamere's ult: Ignite and walk away How to outplay Fizz: Stun and burst before he can use his E
@4yoyoman9 жыл бұрын
Yorick made the list but Graves cant have a fucking cigar... smh
@Xelix9779 жыл бұрын
'Kayle with her uky having no counter play' Jesus Jeremy, for real? I don't even play or like Kayle but really? She can't cast it while stunned and she's not a particularly tanks champion so u just stun her and kill her and what can she do? Smh not even close to trynd ult
@Xelix9779 жыл бұрын
Ult *
@moondawgify9 жыл бұрын
Xelix977 And then you have something called positioning, yes it exist and because kayle is ranged unless you´re fucking bronze you won´t get to her easiely. Kayle has not counterplay over all and the champion should be reworked, whenever she´s powerful everybody wants to rip their balls out and when shes weak everybody rejoices, kind of like akali which is also fucking bullshit as far as design goes.
@TheAlfredo0949 жыл бұрын
Xelix977 And you can actually CC her while she's invulnerable...
@KaosSakana8 жыл бұрын
It's a ragelist. Kayle is not the least bit broken, but she could be frustrating to play against. He probably lost one game against her and put her on the list. Old Poppy makes sense at #1, but most of these are silly.
@jacobnorris82568 жыл бұрын
+Sakana Her E is in reality just a passive, but for some reason forces you to spam the same key. Her Q is a boring point and click slow. Her W is a boring point and click heal. It's true that she doesn't deserve a spot on the list, but she's definitely badly designed.
@damzor8 жыл бұрын
basically any champion that has a targeted ability or an invulnerability...pretty dumb video imo, thats like 95% of old champions
@rickgrimes69478 жыл бұрын
then they rework poppy and she is strong but beatable
@1921sebi9 жыл бұрын
I think Riven deserves a spot in this list. She has incredible damage and snowball potential, and she has literally no weakness. Her kit provides really everything: a dash and a shield, a stun, a knockup , a jump, AoE damage, damage amplification and ranged execution with her ult. Her kit is completely overloaded, and she has almost no lane matchup that isn't in her fasvor.
@polydipsiac9 жыл бұрын
THE SHADE ON ANNIE BOT
@ItzAndyArson9 жыл бұрын
polydipsiac Except AnnieBot admits that Annie is ridiculously easy and cheap...
@ItzAndyArson9 жыл бұрын
Everyone is vulnerable to burst mages and champions with dashes... lol
@DomagojSavordh8 жыл бұрын
Kayle? But no Yi, Heimedonger, Volibear and Irealia and Teemo? What the fuck? :D I liked the video because of Fizz and old Poppy. Wouldn't put Rengar here. He's maybe an ass but freaking cool and awesome. Game wouldn't be the same without him. Also, I would like the video that you put Yi. That's champion which shouldn't exist, together with Teemo and Heimedonger. Irelia needs huge nerf or rework, together with Fizz. Voli also but these 3 bitches are plea to the game.
@tobsomatix8 жыл бұрын
Solutions: Yi: Knock him up Or stun him Heiner: DONT FIGHT IN HIS TURRETS Voli: Kite until he dies ( so You Can Kite looooong) but it works Teemo: Don't play AA based Champs against him
@fishoto36778 жыл бұрын
Teemo is the best champion in this game accept that :d
@clashwithbigg8 жыл бұрын
one note on annie. if you dodge her q's stun, it doesnt remove her 3 stacks. like yi's q and yasuos windwall. she can simply w or ult u and get the stun after u dodge.
@jfjfkfkf71428 жыл бұрын
I thought teemo would be on the list
@NietreagerenopcommentsAUB8 жыл бұрын
WHAT?
@Vclee08 жыл бұрын
yeah
@filipinogamer73158 жыл бұрын
agree i played teemo im so OP XD but hes not so handsome
@NietreagerenopcommentsAUB8 жыл бұрын
Je Tacac :c
@filipinogamer73158 жыл бұрын
+Teemo the Swift Scout but i like thug life teemo XD so handsome AF
@tagaclaudiu9 жыл бұрын
Rengar "lacks counterplay completely". Well. I'm pretty sure he really needs his ultimate to "one shot you with his overloaded kit", which has a long cd early, and basically has once chance to do something in mid-late game, where all other assassins have plenty. If he fucks up his ult / combo he is practically useless. A pink ward and one person with CC = Dead Rengar, even if fed. Also, there are games when he's behind as hell. I don't see a 2/7 rengar one shotting you. He is very reliant on getting ahead and snowballing, on not fucking up his combo and on his ultimate. I don't see him fucking up everybody, 1v5 ing everyone like Yasuo, Katarina, or Vayne. If there's more than 2 people together he can't do much unless they're low or he's so far far ahead.
@qu23249 жыл бұрын
+ChimpyCheese true that, every time an assassin gets fed, it's "OMG SO BROKEN RITO PLZ NERF" without understanding the definition of "fed as fuck"
@bayasgalantsogtgerel33468 жыл бұрын
+Quentin Mollard Everyone becomes Op when they get fed.
@invinciblemic8 жыл бұрын
Haha None of these champs can possibly 1v5 if not SUPER ahead. And with rengar it's just too easy to get that lead.
@yussefcheaitou7 жыл бұрын
And now he is reworked and shitted on.
@hayden67006 жыл бұрын
Someone's mad
@XxRadioBoi102xX9 жыл бұрын
tbh with this list I can only agree with fizz, I wanted to make this list to show how I think this top 10 is biased in my opinion, im a noob at LoL so some of my points might not be a good idea or true. #10 Vi: With Vi's ult she has to be cocky enough to rush towards you and your team, and with a champion with movement (Kassadin, LeBlanc, etc.) she will rush even further away from help, getting herself into nasty situations. #9 Ryze: Ryze's only problem is his rune prison right? so if you have a champ with high range auto/abilities (Trist, Sivir etc.) you can stay out of range of his rune prison most of the time. #8 Trynd: Yes his undying rage can be a pain but if you have a good thresh, nautilus, or blitz, you can hook him back into range of you and your team in time for his ult to wear off and his crit chance is bad, but not yasuo bad. #7 Kayle: Kayle's ult can be difficult to deal with, but its not as bad as it could be because it can only protect one ally from dying, so in a team fight or 2v2 you can more than likely get at least 1 kill. #6 Annie: She isn't as bad as you make her seem, you cant dodge her ult, but if you run after her ult she cant do much. #5 Olaf: Olaf's ability to slow/be immune to disables is really frustrating, but if he ults while running away, chase him if you have speed and try your best to dodge the axes he'll throw at you if he ults while running to you, do your best to run while it wears off. #4 Yorick: I haven't played/seen anything about him really so I cant give any opinion. #3 Fizz: I agree he is bs, I know there's a counter to him but I haven't found it yet. #2 Rengar: As +JhoaoCkuNdari said rengar has 1 chance to deal loads of dmg to you, as most assassins have multiple #1 Poppy: Since poppy got re-worked I cant say much about her on this list now, but I feel like she was more of a juggernaut counter with her % of health dmg on her Q and ability to knock dangerous champs away from her allies with her E I know this list is a bit rambley but I wanted to make my opinion clear
@EpicToast118 жыл бұрын
Stealth is not OP fam. pink wards.
@keeganmcneil82028 жыл бұрын
True. But its not always easy to keep a pink in your lane to prevent a stealth champion from ganking you.
@bonpham25439 жыл бұрын
Where's Riven...
@DeadMouse329 жыл бұрын
bon pham have fun in bronze
@bonpham25439 жыл бұрын
Lol, im in Gold...
@bonpham25439 жыл бұрын
Abdul Haleem Habeeb Ah ok, you mean that riven is "balance"... a AD scaling shield that is a dash too... ok "balance"
@DeadMouse329 жыл бұрын
without that shield, she'd be a shit champion, so theres nothing you can do about it.
@nyeffer94149 жыл бұрын
bon pham right compare a Shield to a Untargetable, Unstoppable or even combine the two, She is balance and well design compare to the champs on this list so deal with it
@asmahasmalaria85969 жыл бұрын
I really disagree with most Champs on this video and here's why: Vi: Yeah she's a crazy initiator with damage, cc and tankyness but if she is behind, there is no way she is gonna get 1 good ultimate off. She is either not gonna be tanky enough and killed or she lacks damage if nobody is following up on her. If her kit was broken, Jarvan's, Malphite's or Leona's would be, too. Ryze: Yes, he is a late game monster. That's what his role is. Counterplay: Camp him like crazy in the early game and he is gonna be completely useless untill like 50 minutes. On Tryndamere, I agree, but there is counterplay possible, if you kite him or camp him early game. Also he can't jump into 4 or 5 people and get anything done, so group, cc him and kill his team. Kayle: Her Ult lasts for only a couple of seconds... just cc her, wait, kill her. Also she lacks damage early game. Annie: Seriously? If Annie is that bad, why are other burstmages that have waaayyy more range like Syndra or Lux not on this list? Okay she has a burst, a stun and that's it. Don't group for her stun, bait it out with only your support and then kill her instantly. On top of that, she has no mobility, a flashless annie is completely useless. Olaf: If he is behind, he will absolutely get nothing done. He runs in and dies. That's it. He is also very kiteable with, for example Lucian or Ezreal and his ult doesn't last that long. And even if he's ahead and runs in, he will likely be dead after he kills one guy. Yorick: What?! Just stay under tower and farm during laning phase, get a towerport to not get denied that much xp and you have won. Yorick is literally only built to win lane. He has nothing else but an average ulti that makes him a second support. Fizz: Also a late game monster that gets pooped on by most lane bullies. Bait his jump and then cc and kill him. Rengar: Ok, I thought you would say Leblanc at this point. Or any other Assassin. Rengar is vunerable to ganks and he can get nothing done if you just group if you see the exclamation mark and then cc and kill him. If he is fed, he can get one kill maybe and then you have killed a fed member of the enemy team. Also if you camp him and he gets too far behind, there is no way for him to come back. Poppy: Ok I'll give you that one. But that is why she is reworked. And she was never played that much, she has always been a niche pick that can be op, but is just cannon fodder most of the time. Also I find it unfair that you show crazy outplays with godlike mechanics that the players probably worked really really hard for and then just say "Yeah you play broken champs and that's how you win". You're not 15 anymore, are you? Riot was has always tried to patch unbalanced or unfair mechanics out and in my opinion they did a great job.
@muffin8r8 жыл бұрын
How on earth is Yasuo nowhere on this list?
@matthewbache16397 жыл бұрын
Muffin8r because there are quite a few champions that have the upper hand in lane, and may be somewhat easy to learn but is one of the hardest champions to master.
@monokawaii12278 жыл бұрын
katarina ZED akali yasuo master yi xin xhao etc etc, all champs that can one shot you and make the game unfun as hell and take no skill AKA easy kills for lazy players
@gabrielcerkez81748 жыл бұрын
zed and yasuo need skill buddy
@gabrielcerkez81748 жыл бұрын
zed and yasuo need skill buddy
@gabrielcerkez81748 жыл бұрын
zed and yasuo need skill buddy
@Bruineboon038 жыл бұрын
Ok you probably main support girl
@monokawaii12278 жыл бұрын
Siebe Lenie Yes i main support and mid laners
@NarfireVA9 жыл бұрын
Trynd, Fizz, and Olaf are probably the most frustrating to play to me personally. Lack of counterplay is truly what makes the game not fun to play. Trynd can go unkillable even during cc, Fizz can go untargetable every 8 seconds, and Olaf can go bruiser tank and ignore all forms of cc without worrying about not getting a kill. At least with Kayle you can stun her and not worry for a bit ;w;
@jams80159 жыл бұрын
*Reads title* incoming title wave of dislikes
@Suhmantics9 жыл бұрын
so much whining
@frenchfrey659 жыл бұрын
If you think Annie and Kayle are ridiculous on SR, try ARAM, Kayle's splash can knock out multiple champs by itself when she is fed, and given ARAM is just a bridge, good lord she gets fed quick. Annie at one point had the highest all time win rate of any champ on ARAM, because of her ult and ult alone. When she stacks her spells to queue a stun spell, and when enemies are forcibly grouped together, she can stun all 5 which can lead to an easy Ace every time. I know this because I love playing as them in ARAM and it feels so damn good when I get it going between the 2.
@frenchfrey659 жыл бұрын
+frenchfrey65 OH! AND IF YOU THINK YORICK'S GHOULS ARE ANNOYING CONSIDER THIS! DO NOT PLAY AS BLITZCRANK AGAINST HIM! HE WILL COUNTER YOU EVERY TIME! HIS GHOULS MAYBE HARD TO CLICK ON, BUT THEY'RE SURE AS SHIT FOR SOME REASON NOT HARD TO GRAB! GOD DAMN HE'S FRUSTRATING TO PLAY AGAINST IN ARAM! WORST EXPERIENCE EVER! COULD NOT GRAB A SINGLE CHAMPION BECAUSE OF YORICK! HIS DAMN GHOULS WERE A SHIELD ALL MATCH! I COULDN'T GET AWAY FROM HIM!
@vic10288 жыл бұрын
Is this guy a noob?
@chaplain9008 жыл бұрын
Totally agreed with Fizz being broken af.
@yussefcheaitou7 жыл бұрын
not broken, but poorly designed
@klklias73898 жыл бұрын
men i just love you for the fact that you have outro song in the discripsion
@mypowerbob9 жыл бұрын
I main Rengar. I love seeing enemies run around paranoid because they know I'm somewhere but they don't know when I'll strike
@ResearcherShevoth8 жыл бұрын
"no counterplay in his kit with targeted abilities, massive sustain and harass, and ridiculously low cooldowns, and high ranges " oh so every ADC in the game?
@JustShotsForMeh8 жыл бұрын
Because at level 3, most ADCs have a fuck ton of damage and lifesteal.
@wiskidiski45548 жыл бұрын
As a Fizz main, i can completely understand that he is extremely in the tier of bad design. He's super fun to play but very hard to counter, i never even get mad when i play against him because i see all the bs and give it out later by playing him myself. He dodge's a majority of ults/moves and his burst is ridiculous along with his super mobility and the passive only makes it psychotic. Do i wish it would change? No. There are ways to counter him, maybe hard but there are ways, although another thing that makes him poorly design is that he's the type of assassin that not only cleans up at the complete last minute, but also can jump in and out without completely contributing anything to a fight imo. It's hard not to be selfish and take all the kills, and honestly, when a team fight goes bad, the ult is the only thing that could maybe stop a rampage of enemy champions on your tail. Other than that, you save yourself, often getting yelled at for not being able to save anyone else. I think that part is just an assassin thing (reminds me kinda of kat in a way), but eh, i defiantly see flaws on my favorite champ.
@jek_si22518 жыл бұрын
5:30 Annie has a relatively low range on her spells. Her ult's range is only meaningful when trying to hit 1 person, otherwise you need flash/protobelt.
@Soren599 жыл бұрын
Poppy's new kit still arguably lacks counterplay, her ult can turn a 5v5 team fight into a 5v3, and her W completely screws over champions with dashes like Lucian and Corki, forcing them to burn their flash or die if it's on cooldown. She also now has waveclear and poke tools which were some of the things that made her laning lackluster before.
@rggrill35889 жыл бұрын
She has the lowest Win-Rate of all Top-Laners/Junglers with 42% so i guess those points aren't that valid as one might think when reading this for the first time. And her Ult has two problems:It's only useful as an disengage and can be dodged easily by somewhat mobile champions.
@ZickZak9 жыл бұрын
I ve been playing since season 1 and the only one I agree with is Yorick. Everything else "can" be annoying at certain times.
@Nokomak9 жыл бұрын
I highly disagree on the first one. She's actually as strong as she is because she is well designed. Mostly does one thing and does it well. She does have lots of counterplay. I also see no problem with Annie.
@duyvuanh9189 жыл бұрын
+HisingenWolf A support who can one shot ADC with a face roll on keyboard ? A non/projective ultimate stun with no travel time ? Yeahhhhh sure "no problem".
@ayaj88259 жыл бұрын
#10 - gang up and cc her to death. #9 -olaf or someone with tons of cc/burst like riven. #8 -cc and randuins. #7 -hard cc and and shutting her down early. #6 -pay attention to passive and time her ult. kill her when she doesn't have it. #5 -shut him down early. force him to ult then kill after. actually not to much counterplay #4 -cc like crazy and go extremely tanking. #3 -Wait for ult then dodge it. Play extremely bursty and mobile champ. ex.zed is good if the player is good at zed. #2 - pink wards and zhonyas even if your an adc, get zhonyas anyways. #1 -Become faker My point. play taric. Tons of defense, has built in sustain. Has a point a click stun. 18 powerspike. What more do I have to say. Counters everyone
@幽霊船-o4h8 жыл бұрын
Is ryue perma snare still in the game? Never seen anyone using it
@alexisauld77819 жыл бұрын
I feel that Illaoi could now be an honorable mention for this list purely because of her Test of Spirit- a catch-22 ability with no counterplay. You want to save your spirit after being hit by the annoying to evade skillshot? Have fun walking into the tanky, high damage monster AND her minion wave, and actually doing anything. Want to just walk away? Have fun being slowed and then being niggled by tentacles which can spawn on your own turret and do stupid amounts of damage. Do nothing? Same problem! The rest of her kit is meh save for the sustain but that one ability makes her absolute hell to take on.
@bayasgalantsogtgerel33468 жыл бұрын
+Aidan Auld I remember when I first played against illaoi, i had no idea what she did and this guy sid destroy 3 tentacles to release the curse, and I just picked teemo of hunch because she was melee and I was forced top. I didn't even knew the curse existed until like the 8 minute mark when she was able to hit her skill shot, and since I was kinda wining lane pretty hard it didn't really matter to me, but after 3 games I faced her supp in bot lane, and realized how unfair it was that once you get cursed you have to run like lunatic waiting for tentacles to spawn so you can dodge them and kill them to relieve the curse.
@PaleShine898 жыл бұрын
So true. Hey, want to last hit some minions? Pffft, no, stay under tower and wait for tentacles to cut them off. Gank her when she is lvl 6? Get double killed, that hp vamp she gets is sooo balanced. Gank her before? Flashed out and spammed more tentacles. Next patch will bring some nerfs, assure you.
@bayasgalantsogtgerel33468 жыл бұрын
Latte Moon Illaoi teamfight strategy. Land curse, and spam your keyboard, assured triple kill.
@alexisauld77818 жыл бұрын
+Latte Moon I'd just like to come back to this comment to point out that her cancer-- ahem, I mean, E, got buffed...
@bayasgalantsogtgerel33468 жыл бұрын
Aidan Auld Oh wow, uhh so like do have chance to win a lane against her anymore?
@BIGHEDFRRED8 жыл бұрын
The only thing I really agree with in this video is that Tryndamere has a bad kit, he may have his strengths but his kit really feels like it lacks depth and the same thing goes for Yorick, his concept is really interesting, but it really feels like his kit could have been so much better and interesting, with the ghouls and all, neither are overpowered, but even the play of the character feels unfulfilling.
@vvav8 жыл бұрын
I used to really enjoy Olaf top because Reckless Swing would chunk people for a ton of damage in laning phase back in season 1/season 2. Now he's a different champion because he's only decent as a jungler IMO, and even in the jungle you can get owned if the enemy comes to gank you while you're running around on 5% HP for maximum attack speed.
@CJWproductions8 жыл бұрын
Where is the Vi clip from?
@Samuitsuki8 жыл бұрын
How does Vi's ultimate differ from such as WW's or Malz?
@Malothere8 жыл бұрын
+Samuitsuki Its more so the damage that comes after the ultimate is gone off. Vi can do a hell of a lot of damage with only 1 or 2 damage items and then building full tank where as warwick's ulti is more of a "i need to cc this target so my team can kill it" (unless of course he goes full damage but then hes open to getting bursted by pretty much anyone. Malz is in much of the same boat as WW but he always builds squishy and needs to set up some of his spells to fully utilize his full damage(even more so now that his ulti only does a small portion of your max hp.
@Samuitsuki8 жыл бұрын
+Malothere Ah, that does make sense.
@lucasescobedo2008 жыл бұрын
+Samuitsuki You can't CC a Vi to stop her ult. You can stun a WW or a Malz to stop their's.
@DarthDose8 жыл бұрын
stun WW or Malz, also, they both are way more vulnerable whilst they ult and Vi has a very high range to fuck people up with her ult when you count in her Q to get close enough to get her (allready long ranged) ult landed. WW is not nearly as stupid, same for Malz, though his buff made him quite strong, he still is easy to kill and stop and can't get the carries as easy as Vi can.
@boaofdeath8 жыл бұрын
qss exist
@madridista19028 жыл бұрын
katarina- mobility, resets, no resources, poke. Graves- adc that takes no dmg and also does too much burst dmg, Ahri too much mobility combined with cc, true dmg and spell vamp. Kalista - passive, Ekko - assassin with heal, tankiness and insane mobility. Diana "assassin" with tankiness and crazy burst.
@amaden9598 жыл бұрын
+Damn Son Every Champion has a weaknes, so they cant be totally dominant without chance to couter them. Katarina is really weak pre 6 and most champions can kill her before she reaches the piont where she can jump in and kill half of your team with her Ult. Graves has like no attack speed. Ever seen a Graves clearing a Vision Ward? Ahri gets shut down by any form of (ranged) cc and so on.
@xXFlameGamesXx8 жыл бұрын
Does Gbay let you use hes gameplay?
@Mateo_music939 жыл бұрын
So to be honest, some of these abilities do have counterplay. Kayle Ulti does not last very long and vi's ult is not uncounterable. A strong frontline and good teamfighting makes Vi pretty terrible depending on the meta. Low skill ceiling does not mean bad kit. There are some champions that are poorly designed because their kit is not good a any objective. Ryze, annie and other champs mentioned have exploitable weaknesses at certain points in the game. I also thought Yorick, Trynd and Rengar were good choices though. Also, thank god for the poppy rework.
@robertherbst66699 жыл бұрын
i think vlad would be a better example then vi. Riot literally said that vlad was a mistake of a champion and that they never should have released him. I don't even find vi that unbalanceable. I think she's even balanced where she is. I'd even go so far as to say that vlad should be number 2 because he's just as unhealthy when he's in the meta as kayle or even possibly poppy to a lesser extent. Sure his abilities cost health, but it doesn't matter when he has wota and 40% CDR. Not to mention he's the only champion in the game with an AOE damage amplifaction ability that applies to every form of damage.
@willsoe8 жыл бұрын
The problem with the point and click champs, Annie ryze etc is the low elos. You essentially need this level of simplicity in the game to counter mobile assassins. In a low elo game with assassins such as kat or akali, people can't hit skillshots reliably enough to consistently beat these assassins and if Annie and ryze were less point and click I guarantee you'd get people complaining kat is OP. And because low elo people outnumber high elo, you need to keep these champs the way they are
@Mr.Hashimi309 жыл бұрын
Every champion that he mentioned to me have very strong designs that actually brings diversity to the game making it both healthy and fun. It's not that they are poorly designed but are super powerful. If you just change the scalings for a few of these champions like Kayle or Annie it would make those champions easier to deal with. Also, Kayles ultimate is a very well designed ult that is used to actually stop champions that supposedly have no counter play like Rengar's ult or even Vi's ult. Like poppy has a very strong kit but it has the worst scaling ever. If someone is able to reach the late game with a poppy without being punished it is well deserved imo.
@Mr.Hashimi309 жыл бұрын
If you want a game where there is no frustrating game play experience might as well just make a game with just 5 champs and the opponents team has a mirror of those exact champs. That way if you win or lose you know that you lost due to your skill. Doesn't really make a fun game though nor does it allow you to put much thought into the game itself.
@zomgdrhax9 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is that if you play ANY of these champions, you will wipe bronze division's face in the dirt, it becomes so easy to pubstomp. This is also what makes Fizz such a strong champion. He just shuts down bronze players and he is decent in higher leagues as well.
@braul2539 жыл бұрын
I think the 2 most broken champions are Master Yi and Fizz. Master Yi is capable of an AoE critical strike that makes him invulnerable to lock ons. He also has an ability that removes Slow CC and negates 70% damage taken. Oh, and he can do true damage.
@balou74418 жыл бұрын
What's the song in the end? :)
@simonwarren98558 жыл бұрын
Yeah I disagree with a lot of these, I feel like my top ten "badly designed" in no particular order would be something like: Evelynn - (Unreliable assassin patterns, forced to get a weird build) Yorick - (Reasons listed in video) Urgot - (Forced to build weird, super reliant on one ability for a minimal pay-off, ult doesn't mesh well) Old (and new) Morde - (Old morde had no sustain for a Hp cost champion, new morde.... well... new morde....) Yasuo - (Not QQing, just they nerfed all of his stats to crap and he's still a viable pick because of how overloaded he is)( Kalista - (See Yasuo) Azir - (Like yasuo and kalista, except he also was released with 10000 bugs.) Cassiopeia - (Passive simply serves to hinder her until 30 minutes, playstyle is little more than "Stack passive, spam E" Kindred - (Passive is really extremely easy to deny, is a "infinite scaling champ" who falls off after 20 minutes) Elise - (Very overloaded, extremely easy to make broken or useless through tiny indirect buffs or nerfs ex: Runic Echos boost winrate 5%, 25 Movespeed nerf next patch drops her down 3%)
@blockhead1349 жыл бұрын
Fizz is VERY well designed. I mean dont get me wrong, i hate him cuz i get rolled and i cant figure out how to play him, but fizz's whole character is about being nimble and weily and that is EXACTLY how fizz works.
@pavelsvacha8 жыл бұрын
Jasper Hilliard just because you cant play against him doesnt make him poorly designed
@pavelsvacha8 жыл бұрын
You can flash his Q. And yeah his Eis bullshit. But his mana costruins early