Fabricating plastic pistons (will they work?)

[@Dcc357]

Don't give Chrysler any ideas. They will make pistons and exhaust manifolds out of plastic if they can find a way to make it last until past warranty.

[@nickoloes]

Or just don't buy a shit Chrysler or GM vehicle maybe?

[@henriaho2271]

LoL

[@Reziac]

I wonder if that explains their transmissions.

[@StrawberryBastard]

@@nickoloes imagine buying any modern American car

[@12beemer34]

They will simply adjust the warranty to match the expected component failure date.

[@DonkenAndToivolaRR]

I'd suggest to make pistons from concrete. You may reinforce the concrete with the metal mesh of a fly screen. :D

[@danieljones317]

Not sure it will take the heat. Phenolic resin plastic has already been in use for brake caliper pistons and engine pistons. The durability is somewhere between cast and forged aluminum pistons, incredibly.

[@eddiedemayo934]

Definitely would love to see this but I think the concrete would chip or completely shatter after hitting the combustion stroke

[@Nicolas-lv5qy]

Or a ceramic piston

[@danieljones317]

@@Nicolas-lv5qy how about a combination if the two? Make them out of that new transparent aluminium.

[@electric6877]

@@danieljones317 I don’t like the sound of this lol

[@clockhanded]

Garage 54 is who you want on your team during any post apocalypse scenario.

[@ohanneskamerkoseyan3157]

It runs.. With wrong firing order.. ON PLASTIC FREAKIN' PISTONS! These damn Ladas and Volgas are surely immortal, man!

[@GhostOfDamned]

Literally, unkillable

[@HU1212ICAN3]

On one cylinder, with water in the engine. Absolutely no problem doing so.😂

[@ATruckCampbell]

They wont run well or efficiently, but they will always run.

[@AnyManProjects]

If every American car guy watched this channel, there be zero tension between the two great nations 👍

[@ZTK-RC]

Remember, If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.

[@SteveVi0lence]

Nah... Have you seen that beautiful Russian woman singing? Hotter than american women

[@-A-Hybrid-Skunk-Productions-]

I agree wholeheartedly. I have no grudges against Mother Russia. Uncle Sam appears to have grudges.

[@ufarkingicehole]

It's only the US creating tension. Its what we do when we spend too much money. We will be back funding Ukraine again due to anther "Russian invasion ".

[@SteveVi0lence]

@@ufarkingicehole *biden and his media

[@robertheinkel6225]

As far as zero compression, did some of the plastic get into the valves, not allowing them to seat?

[@karlcarrigan4451]

Why don't you try with plastic pistons again, but screw thin metal discs to the tops of the pistons, like heat shields..

[@Mikedistizike91]

Metals such as iron, steel, bronze, brass, copper, gold, aluminum, and silver are all excellent conductors of heat. They won't last more than a minute longer, especially thin, in an ICE engine.

[@MrHBSoftware]

@@Mikedistizike91 whooooo ice engine...millenial vocabulary

[@MrHBSoftware]

@G Rossi yeah i know the menaing but i always cringe when i hear or read it....an engine on a car is an engine...period...electric cars have motors not engines

[@MrHBSoftware]

@G Rossi yes i am portuguese and we say motor for everything that creates rotational motion basically...the thing is that the term ICE came after all this hipster trendy thingy going on now about electric vehicles and their fake benefits to the environment.....people are like: whoooo ice cars are evil blah blah blah...its cringe and i had to write about it , sorry ahahahah

[@MrHBSoftware]

@G Rossi finally someone that views the subject like i do...in brazil they use "alcool" i think in English is ethanol and it can be made out of anything that rots basically....biodiesel can be made out of sunflowers and many other plants....also diesel engines can run off used motor oil but i think that last one is not a very eco friendly solution though...i have ran my cars off of used veg oil for many years until the police started impounding cars that did that...used veg oil emits a characterristic smell and cops can detect it, then they take a sample oof of the tank and they can fine you because you are basically avoiding taxes by fabricating your own fuel...yeah...government ripping us off and dont giving a fk about the environment while trying to look like they do....no news here...... a major problem with electric cars is that if everyone starts using them the power grid will collapse and electricity prices will skyrocket, guess i will then have to run my house off of a gasoline generator, i suppose by that time gas will be cheap as water hahahah other thing that bugs me off is that people actually believe that creating energy miles and miles away, transforming it multiple times,storing it in batteries,dealing with cable losses etc is more efficient than having the fuel inside the actual vehicle......until renewable energy tech gives a big massive jump in efficiency and capacity, electric cars for the masses are a distant joke...remember the "nuclear car" hype in the 50's?it too never happened...

[@InFiD3ViL1]

I find it amazing that the plastic was able to withstand those forces near the wrist pin. No cracking or deforming at the pin. Cool stuff!

[@kristjankimsto5982]

Video idea: make the best revving lada(remove as much weight as possible from the engine) i mean shave off pistons, make a lighter crankshaft and more.

[@nedkelly1306]

Then slap a turbo on it 😈

[@MrJdsenior]

Yeah, why not, another fools errand. Could be funny, and MIGHT last more than 1 minute, if they're lucky. What might be even funnier is shoe horn a very high performance engine, like the current top level Corvette's or Hellcat's into it and watch the thing eat itself alive.

[@MrJdsenior]

@@nedkelly1306 Nah, big Roots blower.

[@nedkelly1306]

@@MrJdsenior I just want to see an engine block grenade like one of the Cummins at work did and throw the rod and piston out of the side and it took a chunk out of the block the size of a 1kg Milo tin haha if you want to see have a pic hahaha

[@spankthemonkey3437]

They cut the counter weights off crankshaft it actually ran really good

[@Wok_Agenda]

10:01 Vlad: Blyat Translation: Blyat Me: Happy blyat

[@MrWashesp]

Suka

[@stevenlee1075]

I made the same comment AAAHHH LMAO

[@Wok_Agenda]

@ymxctrails 😂😂😂

[@caseyb1346]

Happy Blyat, davai davai

[@ImranIsak]

I read that as Vadim... VADLIM BLYAT

[@KowboyUSA]

Put some 2-cycle oil in the gas and see if the extra lubrication can make it run longer.

[@thomasmcdougall8059]

You mean 2 stroke

[@buddy1155]

The problem seems to be the combustion heat not the friction on cylinder. Better solution would be running it on a fuel that combust at lower temperature.

[@thefreedomguyuk]

@@thomasmcdougall8059 Doh ! That's just semantics. A 2 stroke engine IS a 2 cycle engine.

[@MrJdsenior]

@@thomasmcdougall8059 Same difference. One is an engineering term, the other colloquial, if I'm not mistaken. It's called a two cycle (or stroke) because the piston produces power every stroke, and intake occurs at the beginning and exhaust at the end by ports being opened during the cycle, without the need for valves (necessarily anyway, some have them, reeds on the intake) and two turns of the crank to accomplish this. It does with porting at the loss of efficiency (volumetric) and typically gain of pollutants. Though there was one two cycle outboard done by Johnson or Evinrude (don't remember, thinking the latter) that was pretty amazing on at least one of those fronts. Basically it's 'equivalent to' car and automobile. Remember the blank is to blank bullshit on public school tests? And yeah, what Buddy said, too, not just Shane. And I would have named them one and two cycles, frankly, based on crank rotations per power cycle, but hey, I didn't name it (not THAT old). The same 'cycles' occur in both, just not at the same rates. And then there's rotaries (or Wankels, see how that works?). They actually produce THREE power strokes per cycle but then they screwed up the whole crank/power cycle by making the crankshaft turn three times faster than the rotor, kind of HAD TO pick some value greater than one to implement the design though, just the nature of the beast. Or come up with some transnational shaft output and convert THAT to a useful geometry. They did it right....Germans...not surprising. Their production quality isn't great but their DESIGNS, marvelous.

[@cerealtiller]

The Alloy of the original Pistons disperse heat rapidly...the Plastic material will retain Heat and melt. Extra Lubrication will not help.

[@hoss3433]

Wonder what would happen if you build the same piston and put a thin aluminum cap on the top to keep the fire directly off of the plastic

[@freddykreuger1371]

Engine: yeah a new head gasket 😍😍 Vlad: let's put plastic pistons in there😏😏😏 Engine: no not again 😱😱😱.

[@TBPony]

xD poor lada, such a masochist lmao

[@elmatroso7125]

@@TBPony It's Volga not Lada :) But who cares :)

[@lexuses3942]

😂😂

[@armchairgeneralissimo]

@@elmatroso7125 Posh Lada ;)

[@lukewarmwater6412]

a freind of mines dad did this with wood once when he was in high school. he had bought it from a used car dealership and there was sawdust in the rear diff etc. so when it immediately burned a piston he made a new one out of oak and took it back to get his money back. it worked for long enough to get the dealer to give him his money.

[@DesertSessions93]

Have you seen the wood piston episode?

[@colchronic]

X to doubt

[@CertifiedRedneckEngineer]

X

[@the_kombinator]

I suppose that would work if he drove it there without a spark plug lead in the wood cylinder, then plugged it in just around the corner.

[@lukewarmwater6412]

@@the_kombinator it was a flathead engine, this was in the 50's, so he just put a sheet metal top on the piston and it ran as long as he needed it to.

[@DrHouse-zs9eb]

Now make pistons of JB Weld. Very good stuff.

[@robertheinkel6225]

Project Farm has done that with making a head for a small engine. It didn’t last one.

[@BaldBozo]

They have jb weld extreme heat. It can handle sustained temps of 1000F

[@MrJdsenior]

@@sonacphotos I assume you mean as a joke, because if not it's a bit like pumping bleach into your veins to wipe out COVID...'we're looking at that, right?"...and the doctor present starts to slide under the table to keep from laughing (or crying). I'm totally amazed there were no eye rolls presented accidentally, pretty solid resolve from those present with at least three firing brain cells. I knew a Goodlett that worked was an engineer at Martin, any relation?

[@maxrcs4264]

@@sonacphotos Same same with a small four wheeler Didn’t even last a day

[@peterpemrich6962]

@@MrJdsenior just had to mention it didn't you.

[@z31shiro75]

Make a piston completely out of JB weld two part epoxy. I guess you could create some kind of moulding to pour it into. Love watching you guys!

[@JesusisJesus]

10:00Blyat needs no translation.

[@SwapBlogRU]

It was bleeped out in the original vid, I felt that I needed to restore it.

[@uncrustable9923]

@@SwapBlogRU hahahahahahaha

[@larrydavis9029]

I really enjoy all the wacky things that you both try. Cannot think of anybody else that would dare do that. Wonderful job guys!

[@RipRoaringGarage]

I love you BMI didnt bother translating Blyat! Its become so well known...

[@SwapBlogRU]

If they hadn't bleeped it out in the original video - I wouldn't have even dared to touch it.

[@luizsouza9259]

Tenta fazer lição com efeito de cobre

[@SI00000]

Garage 54 is one of my favorite channels because they make work and learning entertaining. Keep it up.

[@KamakaZex313]

This channel is underrated, I love this stuff you deserve more views!

[@jessewildman1292]

He’s like, “look at it shaking!” Yeah no duh, the crankshaft was counterweighted specifically for the weight of the metal pistons, so putting plastic ones caused an imbalance because the counterweights were way heavier than they needed to be with plastic pistons 😂 So crazy that this worked though lol

[@taxidude]

There will be little weight difference. Platic is more likely heavier than aluminium pistons. Con rods haven't changed.

[@MrJdsenior]

@@taxidude Con rods contribution might be lessened due to nature of their rotational travel, or maybe increased, now that I think of it...hmmm. Plastic con rods likely would have worked FAR better than plastic pistons, might have even lasted a few minutes, rather than a few seconds. As for the weight difference, I've seen drive shafts made of plastic that are two to three times lighter than their metal counterparts, and able to take two to three times the torque, so maybe not so much. They don't dress out F1 cars with FRP (ALL over the place) because it is inferior regarding strength to weight, compared to metals. And if you've ever ridden a carbon bike, or used a carbon tennis racket, etc. it should be clear what I'm saying, if not try one of them, then you'll understand. Just sayin'. It would also depend heavily on the comparative design volume of each, obviously. I've never seen fiber reinforced metals, though it seems and interesting idea (probably not original, either). Just searched it and found a presentation, yeah, not original, not surprising, and currently used. Also, it shows many benefits, water absorption not being one of them, in some applications, any way. I also expect the fiber material must be chosen carefully. I can see materials like glass not being a good choice for wearing metal to metal interfaces where the reinforced part is the softer of the two, at least not if the location of the fibers is not controlled (kept internal). Fibers like steel whiskers might prove interesting, too, for lower melt metals, not too practical though, likely. Thanks for the comment and the resulting trip down the rabbit hole. Learn something new every day. Nobody here probably cares, but there it is, anyway. Yet another comment tome from John. :-)

[@hakangirginer1373]

@@taxidude What you are suggesting would be true if it was a single cylinder engine. On a multi cylinder setup balance depends on the total reciprocating mass. And that includes the piston, conrod and the crank counterbalance, meaning all moving components in one cylinder, versus the total mass in the opposite cylinder.

[@amorag59]

​@@taxidude Dude what? What plastics do you know are that heavy!? Caprolon's density is 1.14 g/cc while hypereutectic AL pistons will be above 2.7

[@edifyguy]

It was shaking because it was misfiring because not all of the pistons were still working properly.

[@SiR2Dean]

Full on race cars are ridiculously close tolerances to help performance, for instance a F1 car engine at least when they were V8 were technically siezed after transportation. Hot water and other fluids had to be pumped around the engine to warm it up before it could even be turned over to start. 👍Great video 🤩😁👏👏

[@MrJdsenior]

Yeah, and tires brought to near boiling temps before use, blowers used on the brakes at pitting to keep everything from literally catching on fire, plastics all over the car, idle set at about 3000 RPM, maintenance required virtually constantly...wonderfully practical vehicle for everyday use :-) , but FUN to watch. I would have loved to be on an engineering team for one of them, but alas, I went with killing machines, at least most of my career. Not proud of it looking back, except for the tech, but it put food on the table, so to speak. I saw MANY improvements they made (F1) later well before they made them, and I know nothing about the electronics, which is what I would have primarily been working, but I know built in test on automobiles of even a decade ago all out sucked, even with most of the sensors already there to accomplish better functionality. BIT is complicated and requires in depth thought, like the complete boundary scans done on later super complex ICs. I suspect the car industry has gotten much better too, but in all the engine problems I've ever had I think the OBD got it right about once, and then it was one of about three things, as I remember. If you can instrument it cheaply and diagnose from as a tech, it should be just as easy to build it in (and pretty darned cheap, any more, pretty darned capable processors are basically given away now, and many sensors as well). That three cents really matters to some hair brained ankle biter though, of that I can guarantee.

[@1941paco]

Oh Hell Yea!! This was a great experiment, fantastic results. Try using a special kind of coating that will protect the plastic from the intense heat of the combustion chamber. Do everything the same as before , but give the pistons a tiny bit more clearance in the cylinders. Also, use a coating that will adhere to the plastic in an intensely heated environment, a coating that is really good a reflecting heat away from the piston.

[@MadScientist267]

What you're describing is Unobtanium

[@Universal.G]

"This here...........is a wonderful car" This ad was brought to you by Oleg's Scrapyard.

[@the_kombinator]

TBH it's a hideous car.

[@MrJdsenior]

LOL, fine comment sir. Another thumb. Under rated.

[@MrJdsenior]

@@the_kombinator ALL Russian cars were hideous, if the Lada is any indication. My father went to Ukraine and he said he was afraid to even get INTO the damned things, and he's not that cautious an individual. He said they looked like lower tier American (or even Japanese, back then) cars from the '60's. Watch the Top Gear episode where they drop a Toyota truck, and a Lada off a building, The Toyota still drove (after a fashion), the Lada looked like something out of a crusher, and not much exaggeration there, in the last case.

[@armchairgeneralissimo]

@@MrJdsenior Just one thing the Lada part of your story never happened, it was just the Toyota Hilux they did that to.

[@the_kombinator]

@@MrJdsenior I dunno, the Lada 110 is not bad looking. I know they're shit, the GAZelles always break in half, and the Ukrainian made Matizes are weaker than Polish and KDM ones, and I would never buy one, (not even ironically) but there are worse cars.

[@madrx2]

Thanks for going through all that effort to make this video! Love from Australia ,.

[@waseembhatti5279]

Best channel ever.

[@willsdiys2407]

Those pistons will last more than teenage relationships

[@984francis]

And most adult ones......

[@MasterofOrion]

Bruh

[@johngillon6969]

In my whole life i have hired only one mechanic one time. watching you guys, i kind of remember why i only took one car to one mechanic in my whole life.

[@MrJdsenior]

Me too, and it was for an alignment on a Cuda and when I picked it up the SHIFTER was broken. Wonder how THAT happened? I should have taken a tire tread depth measurement before I dropped it off. When I pointed it out, the guy said, nothing we did could have done that. I said, sure, that's why it was intact when I dropped it off, and it's broken now. Crooks and charlatans, many of them. I had been hammering that Hurst on that Hemi transmission for years with no problem, how the hell they broke it is beyond me. They were obviously 'experts'. If I wasn't a kid then, I would have had a new shifter, or money to buy one, when I walked out (In the box). People don't get away with that crap with me any more, on things I no longer want to do, like roofs...did the last one twenty years ago, having one done in a month, too old to go up and down a ladder 50 times and shoot shingles (never mind the tearoff). Hopefully we won't wake up to a house full of water at the first storm. The contractor seems really sharp, hopefully he applies that to his hiring practices. My father took his TL to have a broken tail light fixed and they handed him the car and a handful of bolts back. I said "You ACCEPTED that?!". Just plain weird, and stupid. Another time he picked up his RV that had had a new engine installed and the thing barely ran. Dad said obviously the timing is retarded all to hell, just listening to it. The kid ASE tech just looked at him with a blank stare. He had to go to the manager to get it retimed (because he had no tools with him, it broke in Con and we're in Fl, so he had to wing it back to pick it up, and knew damned well he shouldn't leave his full tool box in it for them to access, or steal. This was a Toyota DEALER, and I shit you not, the damned bolt on the harmonic balancer backed out and he just about lost the thin before the noise started a few miles back on the road. He was PISSED. When it broke II was with him, and the assessment by the first shop we stopped at was 'it's the motor". No shit, Sherlock (it had spun a rod bearing, by the sound of it) so dad said he'd be more comfortable having it replaced by a dealer and had it towed to one. I said that it didn't matter, it was just the specific tech working on it that mattered and you can get shit ones anywhere. I was presciently correct. Luckily after that he had no more problems, but actually didn't put many more miles on it because he didn't remotely trust the installation. Go figure. After the first time, when the shifter came back torched, I have never sent a car to a mechanic in 37 years now. Sending it out with 15 minutes worth of work to be done and receiving it back with three times that just doesn't make sense. I bought a toe in slip gauge and the tires have worn just beautifully using it on several different cars for all these years. Shocker, huh?

[@artszabo1015]

It ran a lot longer than I thought it would. Very entertaining video, as usual. Art

[@MrJdsenior]

They ALWAYS run longer than I think they will, cause I'm usually predicting milliseconds. BTW, you don't need the closer, it's already in the opener. Cheers.

[@wojteko3801]

hello try make copper pistons

[@akeelshah7904]

or brass

[@akeelshah7904]

@Lassi Kinnunen 81 never heard that one

[@pizzablender]

@@akeelshah7904 Brass? Why not glass?

[@brandonthornsberry280]

That would be very expensive

[@wojteko3801]

@@brandonthornsberry280 you tube pay

[@fristytron]

this channel is pure honesty. It resolves misteries that i've been wondering about for years.

[@randyeller8139]

This would be a good one to try again next winter when you have those-30°C temperatures. Might work good then... it couldn’t overheat as easy!

[@Typing.._]

Great English voice over thanks for not just putting small caption translations

[@ryansaylor6043]

Try pistons made from glass. Love the channel guys. I've been playing the Garage54 game too. Good stuff.

[@saints_row_cat]

On the first fire it breaks

[@joels7605]

Amazing. I guess air compressors are coming with teflon pistons now (with no rings). This channel is awesome.

[@edifyguy]

That should pose no issues, but keep in mind that the absence of combustion in a compressor creates much lower temperatures than an internal combustion engine experiences.

[@Universal.G]

Can you please make a video where you mount the carb to the exhaust and the exhaust to the intake manifold and see if you can make the engine run with the exhaust and intake reversed.

[@Jay20112968]

he'd have to switch out the camshaft as well, otherwise the valves with still open for exhaust and inhale timing.

[@MrHBSoftware]

or make the engine rotate backwards and have 5 reverse speeds and only one forward...

[@lexuses3942]

I had a hard time breathing reading this

[@MrBmxbrawler]

I want a shirt that says. "Oh my , what seems to be the problem?"

[@teardowndan5364]

Add direct water injection to spray water on the pistons to both cool them off and prevent them from making direct contact with the flame front, then this might actually work!

[@cylentkills]

You should try Polytetrafluoroethylene, also known as PTFE and Teflon, is a widely used plastic that was discovered in 1938 by the company Chemours. It has one of the highest melting points out of any plastic, 620°F (327°C), but it maintains its strength at temperatures as low as -450°F (-268°C).

[@SW-qr8qe]

I thought that was what he’d used on first look. Would make some sense but the thermal expansion is massssssive! PEEK would work a long while but the cost would be huge.

[@thefreedomguyuk]

Nope. Teflon is expanding a lot when exposed to heat. Teflon pistons would seize even sooner than what we saw here. And by the way, PTFE was invented by Du Pont. (Not a huge difference, though). What's needed here is a thermoset polymer.

[@thefreedomguyuk]

@@SW-qr8qe Thank you, Sir ! Great seeing a person who know what he is talking about. Peek may actually work. A Peek composite with glass fiber may actually even be useful. But, as you say, would be pricey. My guess is epoxy would be possible to use, and cheap.

[@earlesurfs]

(PEEK) Polyether ether ketone is a colourless organic thermoplastic polymer in the polyaryletherketone family, used in engineering applications. It was originally introduced by Victrex PLC, then Imperial Chemical Industries in the early 1980s Melting point 649F We used to use it as wear bands in experimental vehicle dampeners. We cycled a military Stryker damper over a million cycles with a 3000 pound side load. When disassembled the hardened steel cylinder walls had major wear, the peek wear bands had ZERO measurable wear!

[@earlesurfs]

@@thefreedomguyuk I commented before reading your comment. PEEK would be an interesting experiment!

[@hankthehex4298]

I saw people printing stuff with ceramic resin try to print pistons from ceramic resin

[@arcopierik3894]

I like the experiments you guys are doing. For the next trial, make your own pistons from waste aluminum, empty soda cans, and other aluminum bits. Melt it, pour it into a mold. Then turn the pistons yourself and test them. Continue these fun trials

[@YszapHun]

for anybody who's interested, the material shown in the video is Polyamide (PA-6) in my opinion

[@atik333]

They should use PEEK with 15% Glasfiber + 10% PTFE. Cost 100€ per Kilo in Granules.

[@elmatroso7125]

Yup. Oil filled PA-6.

[@Wageslave645]

My first thought was a PEI. Ultem might hold up well but it is a little brittle when cold.

[@cylentkills]

Should have used Polytetrafluoroethylene, also known as PTFE and Teflon, is a widely used plastic that was discovered in 1938 by the company Chemours. It has one of the highest melting points out of any plastic, 620°F (327°C), but it maintains its strength at temperatures as low as -450°F (-268°C).

[@joels7605]

@@cylentkills Yup. PTFE absolutely. If they undersize the pistons to allow for thermal expansion they might even be able to go for a drive.

[@-A-Hybrid-Skunk-Productions-]

Very Impressive for Plastic Pistons. I am impressed. This video was very very fascinating. Thanks for sharing.

[@tripleplonk]

You should get in touch with Jeff Minter. Your channel always make me think: 'Revenge of the mutant Llada'.

[@jogahi1]

Big hello from Canada, my northern brother.

[@meboyotube]

Damn, there goes my plans for 3d printing a high performance engine this weekend... ;)

[@randomtask9643]

Thank you BMI Russian for the voice over and translation! I probably wouldn't have been able to watch this channel otherwise!

[@dannyjulian7624]

Im from the U.S.A. And you guys crack me up!! 😂

[@victorgirouard1543]

I am amazed it even ran never mine seized up and then ran again mine blown! Good job guys keep those interesting ideas coming.

[@nitrousman8882]

how about a composite? Ceramic and plastic? nice video! :)

[@NeilBooth]

Sure, but ceramic can scratch the bore

[@pum882]

What about mixing the valve/seat lapping compound into the oil? Bypassing the oil filter of course

[@Kahviaija]

Another suggestion: can you drive car with pedals working on opposite matter. For example car idles when you press gas pedal down and revs when you release gas pedal.

[@nopegaming2117]

Press to release gas

[@SwapBlogRU]

Sounds interesting.

[@jjohnston94]

They've done that with a clutch. It was very hard to drive.

[@Dcc357]

Inverted gas and brake pedals lol.

[@Bigwes13]

The amount of effort in your videos is outrageous!

[@3ForceYoda]

Motor is mostly blown apart, "We can reuse it..."

[@HighMileageOffroad]

Their Russian dude they can reuse anything!

[@bikergamersoldierspy533]

And that is how you can tell a real Eastern European mechanic from a Western part replacer

[@Lerssinen]

@@bikergamersoldierspy533 I know that = D I drive a Niva

[@KaktitsMartins]

The translation on this is phenomenal!

[@doktorwhy7397]

Hi guy,s how about turning a lada into a classic two seater sport model like an MG midget -ac cobra - AUSTIN HEALEY something like that.

[@miksal26]

Whatever happened to the high temp Diesel engine developed by ( I think ) Isuzu. Pistons and cylinder walls were made of ceramic material. They were able to operate at massively high temperatures . The engine block had its water gallery cover hatches removed so there was no cooling. The heat coefficient of the ceramic was almost zero and was demonstrated by heating the piston to an incandescent temp and then inserting into the cylinder that had been cooled for some time in liquid nitrogen. They fitted perfectly. I think that the point of the experiment was to Demonstrate the efficiency of using a much leaner fuel consumption and a much more efficient fuel burn temperature. The most spectacular presentation was to use the ceramic piston as a crucible to melt an original metal piston from the engine,and then ,after decanting the molten metal, place the piston in the cylinder . These demonstrations were carried out about 20 years ( or more) ago, then ,nothing more was mentioned. Perhaps the oil industry might not have liked the idea.. I enjoy your channel and appreciate the English translation. Maybe your plastic pistons are not very good heat conductors and melt before they can dump the heat. Cheers from Australia 👍🇦🇺🇷🇺😷😷😷

[@weorldedit]

But flouroplast (PTFE) is fine up to 200 °C and caprolon (PA) only 100 °C. When Vlad said "what plastic should we use" I immediately shouted PTFE.

[@antmk2dreaming614]

But combustion temps can get a lot higher than 200 C. Especially on a petrol engine

[@poptartmcjelly7054]

you woudn't want to be breathing PTFE smoke let me tell you that.

[@thefreedomguyuk]

Not sure what you are talking about there. Ptfe/Teflon is fine up to above 300°C. However, Ptfe is one of the least useable materials here. It may have a high melting point, which is not relevant here. What is needed is a polymer with extremely high thermostability, one that does not expand when heated. Sadly, Ptfe has virtually no thermostability, it has a very high degree of thermal expansion. What's needed for this application is a "thermoset" polymer which does not expand when exposed to heat. Epoxy would be a very good suggestion. So shouting Ptfe was the wrong call!

[@weorldedit]

@@thefreedomguyuk I think PTFE would have worked much longer than PA. My 200 °C were just a ballpark number, there are many different kinds of PTFE, each with their own max temperature. The smoke is a problem, but I am sure the PA smoke was not very healthy either. Why not push the car outside for the test? I did not know epoxies had so much lower thermal expansion. But wouldnt they produce more friction than PTFE ort be to brittle? In any case. With metal pistons usually reaching in the 300 °C range and the poor heat conduction of plastic. There is probably no plastic you can keep under the glas transition temperature under any usefull load.

[@wannabeetiger]

Good idea

[@rayanehaddad8406]

i love this channel, they try the dumbest yet the most intresting experiments on cars

[@nijonijo2934]

Saludos from El Salvador

[@davidwinckel1303]

You guys must have so much fun. Keep it up. Always fun to watch

[@DayRider76]

After watching this show I'm convinced! Every car in Russia has the same engine in it.

[@the_kombinator]

And they're all carburetted with OHV. Just like the US in the 80s :D

[@SW-qr8qe]

@@irgant We fondly remember Lada’s in the UK. Gave us a whole load of laughs.

[@DayRider76]

@@irgant That's what makes this funny! If this show was all you saw about Russia, then that's what you would think.

[@garypeatling7927]

@@the_kombinator they are ohc similar to Ford pinto cam system but with huge duplex timing chain

[@the_kombinator]

@@garypeatling7927 I've got a nice double link-wide timing chain in my Hyundai built 4G32 :D

[@hinduwarrior123]

We love your experiments!

[@6Twisted]

Have you guys considered using a single cylinder motorcycle engine for all your testing? It would save you a lot of work.

[@garypeatling7927]

Lada are cheaper in fact most people pay to get rid of these horrible motors . I still feel Renault had something to do with design of this horrible motor

[@6Twisted]

@@garypeatling7927 Cheaper yes but there's 4 cylinders and carbs to work on.

[@TehNouk]

Quality of these videos are just amazing

[@generalelectricmotor9084]

That engine is having the time of it's life with the strangest pistons

[@21stcenturyfossil7]

Almost 40 years ago, I met a guy who was a part of Amoco's plastic engine project. At least the block was plastic. Maybe the head and pistons. He was sure it had the potential to go into production but expansion was a problem along with subsequent cracks and leaks. But Amoco oil did have the rights to a strong and heat resistant plastic back then.

[@Kahviaija]

Suggestion: what happens when you use automatic transmission fluid in a manual gearbox? Or vegetable oil or something else that isn't suppose to go in there.

[@OkFixer]

ATF in manual gearboxes is common....Ford did it as well as Mazda. If you put 90 wt in them it will shift really slow, and the synchronizers will eventually fail. Veg oil, prolly the syncs and bearings will fail after it gets hot. Mineral oil takes heat much better. However it is possible to make veg oil lubricants as long as you put enough additives in the mix......most of them being made from mineral oil.

[@fryloc359]

You could try maple syrup instead of of engine oil, but Master Milo already did that.

[@wrightfamily5625]

My old ranger used atf in a manual 5 speed

[@gabrielvieira6529]

Make a valvle spring so soft even 2000 rpm makes it valvletap, i would like to hear it revving to 7000 with bad valvlesprings

[@buddy1155]

Now make the pistons from marble .... although that might actually work.

[@notasian7620]

Or granite or some type of stone haha

[@buddy1155]

@@notasian7620 Not sure if you could machine granite, I know it is possible with marble as it is reasonable soft.

[@G-ra-ha-m]

@@buddy1155 The ancient Egyptians managed to shape granite, no problems!

[@crazymtbrider]

Didn't get to see the finished plastic rear quarter panel he made with the exhaust for the orange car behind it! I hope that lad realizes how good a boss he has getting to have this much fun at work

[@sufferedenuf]

Wait til you finish and give the car back to the customer. Be sure to film it.

[@blackhawksp4453]

There is a plastic called poliether-ether-ketone (PEEK) it's classified as a superpolimer, it has extreme chemical resistance, it's flame resistant and strong enough to make gun parts like chambers, gas operated recoil systems, it's effing expensive but I think it could work for small 4 strokes like a beetle engine.

[@android584]

Any idea what kind of plastic this Caprilon is?

[@iancanty9875]

What type of plastic is caprylon (don't know if that's how its spelt). I can't find it anywhere online. It looked like it machined in a similar way to acetal but I'd never imagine it would stand up to that punishment.

[@djdjukic]

Caprolon (капролон) is a Russian brand of PA6 aka Nylon 6.

[@iancanty9875]

@@djdjukic Thanks for that 👍. Sounds like he was pronouncing it wrong. Plain old nylon 6. I’ve used plenty of that. I’ve even machined slew gears for cranes from it. I should’ve know from the way it looked while he was machining it.

[@GravyHucker]

@@iancanty9875 Yeah I thought it was Delrin at first, but the chip was too clear. I couldn't nail down exactly what it was either.

[@davebeckley2584]

What a way to lighten racing engines, plastic pistons, plastic crankshaft, plastic cam, and a plastic block! It could race to the end of pit lane. Cool experiment.

[@antwito]

Great channel! What do you think about using O-rings instead of piston rings? Maybe it's good idea for next video :)

[@buddy1155]

Just nylon pistons and you don't need rings at all.

[@Felix-bj9et]

I thought of PEEK or even PBI as a material. Maybe even reinforced. It‘s really expensive but can withstand something like 300 degrees C iirc. They both are really damn expensive tho.

[@munky123jw]

Soak a engine in liquid nitrogen for 30 mins. See what you can break in the engine by freezing it then trying to start it.

[@andrewdalvet6871]

I think it would be seized

[@awesomusmaximus3766]

Your mechanical tom foolery keeps me coming back Awesome

[@exoticg9]

Do this again but then try to drive it to see how long it goes !!

[@colacao316]

It is a nice experiment. We did it in the 80´s, while studying at the university. Of course, it didn´t worked, the ptfe thermal and mechanical resistance was not enough. But it was a nice idea for a group of students.

[@ellhatolite8819]

What if you use pistons made out of ceramic?

[@pepevonkek7803]

3D printed carbon fiber

[@mediocreman2]

If you could put some kind of metal cap on top of the plastic to deal with the combustion heat, it might actually work a bit longer.

[@denniszx9r]

Ты просто гуру в переводе👊😎really good translation американцы ржут над этим 🤣👍по-любому 👍

[@steeliewheelies]

So freaken interesting. This is the kind of stuff we all daydream and wonder about, but come to accept that we will never get/take the chance to experience it. So thanks for doing it for all of us lol.

[@CarMeetFreak]

Try experiments on motorbikes next please

[@kylestewart3744]

Happy to see some content from russia! Should prove to the doubters that were really not different, A fulll toolbox and an engine that needs fixing would bring this world together. Nice shop by the way!

[@AxelP33]

Try running an engine, boosted with a industrial compressor ? Like Cosworth did for testing. See how many bar you can reach !

[@Neptun81]

1. Try making a metal cap on top of the plastic pistons or 2. use plastic as filling material to light up the pistons' weight. Try conducting heat on metal surfaces of the engine head. Possibly rings are good solutions for this purposes.

[@jonnycando]

Without watching first I’ll say they last a minute or two before they become a melted blob!

[@amorag59]

Without watching, the last minute or two I imagine Vlad saying "Well that concludes a successful test of how to get pistons to work in a pinch for super cheap!"

[@jonnycando]

@@amorag59 I was quite surprised the test turned out quite well….obviously they will fail quite soon, but if one was doing research he’d see potential for more study!

[@amorag59]

@@jonnycando All jokes aside, I'll give this a gander when I get home. I've always wanted to 3d print an engine in plastic, run it off a low temp burning fuel like isopropanol and water. As you say the potential and curiosity is there!

[@niktupene8233]

Celazole® PBI - In temperatures exceeding 400ºF, Celazole® PBI has the highest heat and wear resistance, as well as the best strength and mechanical property retention, of any engineered polymer available. I have no idea how much it cost most likely too much.

[@zaltsa3224]

how about full jb weld pistons?

[@samosaarts]

And again, high probability of throwing a rod and the dude is face first deep in the engine bay. Love it

[@RockerTheBMX]

Next will be 3D printed crankshaft ;)

[@victorbenitez9119]

And after that complete 3D printed engine

[@garbageman3992]

these are the MOST interesting car videos I have ever seen. keep up the good work!

[@LtNduati]

*BMW has joined the chat*

[@johnking1381]

Excellent comrades, as usual. How about removing part of the cylinder head with a band saw or grinder, and running it on 3 so we can see the other one at speed?

[@th3smurf692]

10:01 blYaT

[@notoriousbige281]

You should make a cast or forged top cap for these plastic pistons , that way you get the high heat durability characteristic of metal for the combustion area and ring seats and the low friction of the plastic for the piston skirts ?? Be interesting to see