Rogue Echo Bike vs Titan Fan Bike: Ultimate Garage Gym Air Bike

[@Lb-ri5wr]

"it feels louder because it makes more noise", this is the quality content that I keep coming back for

[@franciscochavez6119]

😂

[@taylorsj13]

I hadn't even watched the video yet and this quote made me literally lol

[@prestonrichardson7894]

@@taylorsj13 same for me. It’s because its such a coop thing to say 😂😂😂

[@jonathanpohlhammer6246]

Note to the editor: please level out the audio between Cooper and the music. I had to turn the volume down for the intro, way up for the comparison, then got blasted by the outro.

[@BasementBrandon]

11:41 small buttons? Perfect for someone with small hands... :)

[@BasementBrandon]

Solid review thanks for doing, now I can just point people here!

[@GarageGymReviews]

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

[@Bigspanish83]

You guys are both awesome 🙌🏼💪🏼

[@TheGooglySmoog]

I like how they both have pegs so you and your girlfriend can go on a date without having to ask your parents for a ride.

[@chrismurphy7320]

I couldn’t care less about assault bikes, but I watch these videos because coop is so good with the entertainment value.

[@TheTkrum]

Which air bike holds the most laundry??? Since that’s what it will spend the majority of its life actually doing.

[@bill4657]

Coop. My boy. When you doing the rogue monster cave

[@GarageGymReviews]

Whenever it comes in. Ordered it the first day it came out!

[@sgtcoxjb5132]

YEEESSS!! I was just scoping that thing out the other day

[@benwolhendler6831]

Yess

[@Matt34677]

Interested in seeing that. I looked it up when it came out and at that price I'd just go prime fitness.

[@AfroKona]

I would note that 88 vs 93 decibels may seem like a slight difference, but due to how the decibel scale works (it's a logarithmic scale), 93 is actually about 1.8 times louder than 88.

[@bobvicariorealtor]

Didn’t realize it was that far off, very helpful comment. Thank you

[@reginaldchesterfield8110]

you’re missing two knurl marks for the titan bike, you never gave it a knurl mark for maneuverability and price...

[@amck72]

Fastforward two years later. The Titan bike is $70 more expensive and now the same price as the Assault airbike at $699 and the Rogue has bumped up another $50 to be $845. I`m sold on the no maintenance, more stable yet quieter bike.

[@DoritosResidue]

Rogue will always win but Titan is what I can afford

[@stanlee1857]

Lmfao everyone knows both bikes are made in the same dam warehouse.

[@Bob-ir4lr]

By the same 3 kids too

[@Marta1Buck]

@@Bob-ir4lr that's fucked up lol

[@ItMeZumn]

@@Bob-ir4lr job stability between these two

[@MarcusWolford]

“It feels louder because it makes more noise” - Coop 5:18

[@SirEmoSushi]

I think I speak for most people when I say price will always be the determining factor. Yeah, Rogue is just better at everything and people who can afford it will get it. Those who are on a budget will get Titan. That simple.

[@brandonhoover2120]

Or some people on a budget will just wait/save a little longer to get quality. “Buy once, cry once”

[@ryanzistrash677]

@@brandonhoover2120 The Titan option is a better option for 99% of people.

[@ryanzistrash677]

@@kristopherhickman3178 Fair, personally I think both aren’t necessary. Can surf Craigslist or OfferUp and find a fine fan bike or regular exercise bike for half.

[@PrimalPetersen]

I'd say the price difference, for a better quality, more reliable brand and mechanism, zero maintenance, better screen, built to last, is negligible.

[@DarthTerminatti]

Titan products are really good. I have a gym full of their products along with REP Fitness, and never had a problem.

[@firefishable]

Echo bike is that expensive? In Europe, we pay 949 euros, which is about 1086 US$. Still, it's the better deal... Ultimately, this is an investment in your health, so who cares about a few hundred dollars over the many years of ownership?

[@VillainCollector1]

After spending thousands of dollars on Titan gear over the years, I'm pretty much done with them. Their quality just can't compete. Their welds are crooked and I'm over exchanging darn near every order until I get a piece that is right. Their customer service is great, but I highly recommend buying a different brand. Spend the extra money and don't think twice about it.

[@md5797]

I would say that too if I also worked at Rogue 😘

[@johnesparza9310]

Now the rogue vs the new assault bike pro.

[@Tomsfoolery]

I love my ABP. Does what I need it to do for HIIT or longer rides. Bought from a guy on Facebook Marketplace for $300 one month after he bought it. He had to move for a job and needed to dump it fast.

[@BS-hv3we]

When you're cranking on these early in the morning, while people are sleeping and you're getting it done in the garage, you don't want to wake them up, you don't want to wake the neighbors up.

[@rquattro11]

The Rogue bike is quiter because of the belt. But belts stretch which means it will have to be replaced. Chains are low maintenance to me. I have my road bike for over 20yrs and never had a problem. (Oiled it maybe twice)

[@alvinprettyman1802]

where's the beef .... I mean the weights

[@chrisg8820]

I just ordered the Rogue - I’ve been building my home gym over the last year and this is the last piece, so I am excited for the bike - but also to be done spending money on my gym 👍 The belt drive and how sturdy it is sold me over the Titan and Assault. I hate long cardio sessions and prefer weights, so I think this will be perfect for me.

[@NPow94]

Was it the actual last piece?

[@jdjames997]

I don’t think you’ll ever be “done’ spending money on the gym 👍 the fact that you said this means your wife is reading your comments 😊 By the way, I’m with you, just got an echo bike and it’s the best hands down, it’s worth the extra money, no doubt….

[@marcpettit5406]

Coop, can we talk about the Plymouth Horizon in the driveway?

[@spacecowboy301]

I think whenever it's rogue vs titan and the price point is somewhat close, always go for Rogue. Supporting Rogue is an investment into awesome new equipment in the future, because they put a lot more back into research and development.

[@oneeyeman6118]

THIS

[@PaulieHo]

This is exactly my rule of thumb. If the choice is Rogue or an alternative, and the Rogue is within 10-15% of the price of the alternative, I generally buy the Rogue.

[@Consequence06]

I would love to get the echo bike but it costs $600 to ship to me! Meanwhile I've had heavier products ship to me for less.

[@bradchattergoon1]

Coop: “I’ve heard stories about these small humans, I think they are called women, who might benefit from the Titan bike, but I can’t say much more about these mythical creatures.”

[@unicaaiminakuchi3889]

what would be the recommended user height range? 😅Thanks

[@philstarr9577]

Some kind of fan guard is necessary to keep air from blowing in your face. But you can install duct tape on the fan cage. Monitor is easy to use.

[@ColonelKeenan]

Not sure if it was mentioned already, but an increase in 3db is double the noise. In this case, I think the difference was ~6db, or 4 times louder

[@williamleebryan]

Came here to say this. Lots of people don't realize decibels are on a logarithmic scale.

[@philipcooksey3422]

It's a 10 db increase is double the volume. That's how logarithmic scales work Edit: sound intensity doubles every 3, but perceived volume is every 10 db

[@joncastillopm]

If rogue would drop that to $695 again I would buy it now!

[@Lehmann108]

I have had the Rogue for a year now and it is a beast! It is commercial grade quality and steady as a rock.

[@B702K]

Great video. Purchased the Echo bike. I think that is a better choice for my needs. A nice alternative to my Concept2 rower when I wanna change things up.

[@dylanstandridge3201]

I bought a rogue bike this last month and am thinking maybe I should have went with the titan bike. Rogue sends those little crappy wheel that can’t even go on my lawn into the sun, but I can’t knock it for build quality. I’m pretty sure I could hit it with my truck and it would continue running.

[@ArmedBatman]

Would love to see a direct comparison video like this for the echo bike vs the schwinn airdyne 7 or as the marketing thieves call it the airdyne pro

[@MDC2020]

Damn I thought I just went back to 1984

[@CAHOP2401]

Would think a more apt comparison would be the Assault bike to the Titan Air bike. We all know the Rogue Echo bike is the best air bike you can get

[@josephh5085]

I have the Bells of Steel Biltz bike, which I got for $650 (with free shipping) and it's belt driven. I would like to see a review between that and the Titan version, which would probably be a better comparison.

[@philinmycock]

Is it stable and not wobbly like the titan bike?

[@josephh5085]

@@philinmycock definitely stable. The only negative is the monitor, but I usually only do the 10/20 hiit workout so it's not that big of a deal!

[@pawadventures5544]

You should have worn one of those 1980's Adidas 3 stripe jogger outfits to match the 80's intro music, I felt like I was watching a old Miami Vice or Magnum, P.I. show. LOL! Good review. 👍🏻

[@sehnzeleid]

With the Rogue's bottle holder, the screw spacing is standard, so you can purchase any bicycle holder and install. Use one bought for a buck at a yard sale on mine. The phone holder might be standard too but never looked into it.

[@ntexpert]

Nice review, getting the Rogue Echo.... what is the intro music? Link? Love the 80s vibe!

[@JLThisisMe]

Any suggestions for making the seat more comfortable? I don't mean to sound like a wuss, but I'm far from boney and my Titan seat is so uncomfortable that I could easily see myself blowing off workouts. I doubt it's specific to Titan, as the Rogue seat looks pretty similar.

[@NickSiekierski]

try buying a bike seat cushion cover from Amazon or somewhere else

[@robertduncan6292]

Nice comparison but you really should have talked about the seats.

[@ethanmartin9578]

When can you do the Chan bar? Not sure if you’ve done it yet but I saw you use it

[@AlonzoPichardo]

i still wanna know why this guy has a fitness channel ? He looks like he never worked out a day in his life ... strange ... Good review though

[@RGraw]

If I were to get one, it’s the titan. The only reason I consider rouge for anything else is that it’s American made and not in some Chinese sweatshop made by slave labor. It’s more money, but it’s a question of morality.

[@johnnyc1681]

How about a comparison of drop pads/ crash cushions from rogue, Titan, Yes4all, BoS, ect. I saw you did a video some time back about PP and Titan but it seems since then more companies have released their versions of pads. It'd be nice to see if the cheapest (Yes4all) can hold up well or if it's worth spending more for Rogue/ BoS.

[@18618madeinamerica]

The Titian doesn’t work you as hard and it absolutely doesn’t hold up for the really strong guys it breaks the Rouge on the other hand doesn’t only hold up to the aggressive use by very strong men and it works you harder…a calorie on the Rouge isn’t the same and yeah that fan guard is a good idea although the bike is a decent body warmer

[@ChrisParayno]

Does the noise test but puts the meter closest to the bike 🤦. What matters is 10 feet away, if the sound waves continue.

[@andreaskaraolis7008]

Hey coop love your channel. I haven't seen any videos on atx products or other eu companies. That would be awesome especially for us European subscribers!

[@KindaHotNTheseRhinos]

FYI to anyone looking at a Rogue Echo: if anyone using the bike has an inseam under 29", it will not be usable.

[@mattlovelace91]

Good lookin out, I’m short af so this is actually very useful.

[@joenarvaez19]

Not true at all, my inseam is about 27 and im perfect fine on my rogue echo, the seat is adjustable, you can be 5ft tall and use this bike

[@NittoNba44]

You are a content machine Coop! 2021 will be a big year for this channel

[@mediumspeedsomedrag9885]

I love my Bells of Steel bike. Fan drive, $150 cheaper than the Rogue bike 😎

[@mediumspeedsomedrag9885]

*belt

[@jerseyjim9092]

I've had the Echo for about a month and have no regrets. It seems to be a very solid and durable piece of equipment. But if Rogue hadn't had free shipping its very unlikely I would've purchased it. Now, if they'd only do it with their other stuff🙂

[@User1Mac]

titan has free shipping too

[@stewartvaldez4154]

The single dislike is from Titan Fitness feeling they didn’t win enough knurl marks from Coop. ;)

[@aaronfuniestas]

sick ass intro!! lol

[@Marta1Buck]

I'll tell you my opinion, not a fan.

[@justinminarcik1650]

As a nuobell owner I vow to watch a durability test video on them a minimum of 100 times if you create it! It's everyone's #1 concern with the product but I've yet to see anyone test it. I think we can all agree they will eventually break during the drop tests but the question is when? I'd love to know just how careful I have to be with them during use. A video showing drops at different heights/weight would be heaven sent! Thanks in advance Coop!

[@doublecommenter5161]

I really wish that rogue echo bike came with those turf wheels. Great for moving in and outdoors.

[@blakeogeris2494]

I've been waiting for this!! Coop always comes through!!!!!

[@donray2435]

80s montage....can't beat it lol

[@TheLANDSQUID]

I love the echo bike but not crazy about the seat..have you found a better option for it? Or do you like it as is?

[@pinoiboi13]

Just curious. My wife is 4'10". Would she be able to use it??

[@DrTopLiftDPT]

bought a Schwinn Airdyne from 1984 for $80 on facebook.

[@user-fj2or3xp2c]

I don’t know why is asking me that but it ask me all the time 😆 social security number

[@Itzallgoood]

I would go with the Rogue, simply like less maintenance with the belt driven. Thanks for the content.

[@LoveMountainAdventures]

Great review! Now that I think about it, the real question is..."Does Coop doing anything but great reviews?!" Keep it up.

[@toolate6971]

Rogue loses on the "doesn't matter" things.

[@johnsonpink6002]

The best Air Bike is the DP AirCiser I got for $20 local, because now I actually own and use it. Made in the USA and still going strong after 30+ years.

[@flowstate6769]

All I needed to see was how much they rocked when he was on it and I was sold on the Rogue

[@afarwiththedawning4495]

Great, now they'll be all sold out by the time the Stimmi comes!

[@NorCalWrestler]

Just ordered the Titan on sale for 579.00

[@Ou8y2k2]

Raise the volume of your mic or lower the volume of your intro.

[@DarthTerminatti]

Another Rogue infomercial. 🙂

[@GcD9179]

Titan currently at $569. Worth it?

[@wasdavedead]

I watch this channel now just for the entertainment.

[@hyg71886]

What intro song was that lol ish was epic!

[@jeremyd2003]

Have you tried the Tru Grit or Sunny Tornado LX?

[@rjvsmb]

I knew I could count on you to get this comparison on KZbin ASAP.

[@GarageGymReviews]

OHHH yeah!

[@AntoLeNice]

I would have liked to see the BoS Blitz Bike too.

[@jonathancreech85]

Ditto, seems like the better buy.

[@Timm129]

Agreed .. BOS and Rogue were my two choices. I went rogue.. I couldn't find enough reviews on the blitz

[@juicef3379]

Coops pants are tighter than last time.

[@GarageGymReviews]

Quads and other things within the pants are larger.

[@mattimhiyasmith]

88 vs 93 dB is is nearly quarter in loudness .. +10dB = twice the loudness

[@hawkeytown]

Holy fucking loud into music!!

[@HughLeFitness]

How can you afford all this equipment? Can you give me a barbell? LOL

[@kent1146]

1). It's his job. Buying gym gear is just a tax-deductible business expense. 2) A lot of vendors will send gear to popular reviewers, in the hopes that reviewer will make a video / article about that product. Not everything Coop reviews was a personal purchase.

[@gizmomagoo]

Coop I love all that you do but!!!!!! You have a GHOST Competition bench and squat rack just covered with Safety Squat bars just sitting in the corner. You have no love for it. Send it my way. All the Best!!!

[@carps_gym]

Titan should be belt driven if they really want apples to apples or be close to Echo. Seems like bells of steel Blitz bike would be closer or a assault bike echo combo

[@samwroblewski748]

Had no idea those were belt driven. Good rec

[@carps_gym]

The first version was not belt driven but the newer versions of the blitz bikes are belt deuces

[@Hilmusch]

mx adjustable barbells in the background?! for homegyms? review please!!!

[@firefishable]

Intro and outro music is way too loud...

[@undefeatedgaul3201]

Components. Components. Components.

[@mccalljeff]

I had the rogue in the cart, about to buy and realized it did not have wheels, and that it was an add-on. Something about companies doing that just pisses me off. I have the money, but it is principal. The smaller footprint of the Titan is actually nice, and the big fat tires that are INCLUDED is even better. I do hope they improved the monitor though. It is on the way, I guess I will find out soon enough.

[@FitnessNews24]

Do people use the echo bike for steady state cardio? Or only for interval type workouts?

[@knoxcreates]

Definitely Both. I love it 🙌🏿

[@Timm129]

Both but there are better choices for steady state cardio.. as stated the echo is noisy

[@MrAbrissbirne]

Even before watching the video. GET THE ECHO BIKE. it is the best cardio machine you can buy. It is super sturdy and you can actually use it heavily. It is absolutely fantastic.

[@danielgauthier2072]

After owning both the Vulcan thrasher and the Rogue echo bike I've come to the conclusion that I just don't like fan bikes. The Rogue echo is a well-built bike and is probably the quickest way to get the heart pumping and empty the gas tank; and the monitor is probably the best out of the ones I've tried. But it's not enjoyable (not that anything nicknamed "The Devil's Tricycle" is really meant to be enjoyable, but I end up doing more cardio if I'm enjoying it or at least able to zone out or distract myself - which you can't do on a fan bike) Sold them both and now I have a Concept2 BikeErg which I absolutely love, even though it technically has a fan. The engagement of the arms is overrated, don't feel like I'm missing out there. Cranking the damper up to 10 and the bikeerg is tougher than the echo bike, but lower it to 1-3 and it's a fantastic LISS endurance machine - and as far as monitors go you can't really beat the PM5 when it comes to metrics and functionality. Very different product and use case, but for a home gym I prefer to have the versatility it provides.

[@gabejohnson1550]

Do a review on the XPT machine

[@rtcharge]

Titan looks like a kids bike

[@bcarter9252]

DId I see a Doge Omni and Ford Maverick outside in the driveway? Guess COOP spending ALL his money on equipment

[@Tain950]

Guys Rogues Air Bike is the most durable Air Bike ever built it honestly stands in a league if it’s own. I really feel that Titan should’ve came out and tried to make a statement by building a thick Tank just like the Echo bike with those big mud tires.

[@firstfloor5347]

Movebility .. accessory .. price .. adjustability .. i think u had the counting wrong or maybe its me .. i was lazy to watch it again

[@overandover4783]

The adjustable dumbbells in the back next to the full dumbbell set sure is goofy. Coop should just flip the adjustable dumbbells and recoup the cost. Sure they were a business expense but it’s just a waste of space in my opinion.

[@graham1034]

I still don't understand fan bikes. Have never seen a person on one at my gym. They don't feel great to use compared to any other type of exercise bike. Personally I'd rather just ride an actual bike though weather is a factor for that.

[@markcaravella68]

Coop, how’d the titan bike come packaged? The usual titan disaster shipping?

[@ramsenrasho4194]

What about the seat. Thick boyz want cushion. Who do you give seat cushion to? Thanks COOP!

[@philipcooksey3422]

Ocd alert: knurl marks are not evenly spaced

[@squealer42]

Definitely, that 5th knurl mark on the Echo's got to go.