Garten of Banban 2 is an Absolute Disaster

The sequel to the greatest punching bag in indie horror is here! Is it better than the original? Well... it's bigger... these are my thoughts on Garten of Banban 2.
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[@elchorict]

i have VEHEMENTLY avoided being ban ban 2 spoiled since it came out waiting like a hawk stalking its prey for this video. i have woken up drooling for my favourite ban ban tuber Th3Bann3st to upload this. Thank you.

[@elchorict]

i do not think this is ironic anymore i'm growing very afraid

[@Th3Badd3st]

this is my favourite comment i have ever received

[@lunactiathemoth]

​@@elchorict you should be.

[@Greenisanidiot]

​@@Th3Badd3st th3b4nb4n

[@TomoLamp]

​@@Th3Badd3st garget of aban 🔦

[@LolaH2011]

I swear if the third game doesn't have more opila birds I'm gonna cry

[@dittoflareon]

if the protagonist doesn't turn out to be opila bird at the end of the final game i will rage

[@kindestpotatofarmer]

I hope the number of opila birds keep increasing with each chapter

[@gremloid]

i hope they keep multiplying at an alarming rate. by the final game every single room and hall will be packed with opila birds

[@DanniIsASquid]

The bird army must increase by at least x20 in the next game

[@superspun9944]

Plot twist you play as one of opila bird’s children that ran away from home

[@lightlyboiledbutter5795]

they truly messed up with Banban's voice acting because since he sounds so monotone there won't even be anyone thirsting over his voice on tumblr and twitter. smh

[@leeshapon]

now he’ll never be a tumblr sexyman 😞💔

[@libraeevee9467]

I mean…someone could *POSSIBLE* improvise it and say he’s just tired or something?

[@4r4chn1da33]

Actually, I found a video showcasing his voicelines and every comment was in fact thirsting over him. People will hear the slightest amount of accent and start planning their wedding

[@mars42cc]

​@@4r4chn1da33if anything they should be simping red guy from dhmis

[@4r4chn1da33]

@@mars42cc I’m afraid this is the type of people that would be simping for both. People really like male red slightly human-ish creatures that have a very very slight accent

[@JohnsonvillePoint]

I just realised why Banban sounds half asleep. He used up all the sedatives, on himself.

[@Greenisanidiot]

Lmfao

[@fossfox]

I'm glad we've all collectively decided that Opila Bird is the only good character in the game, she and her babies deserve so much better

[@The_Red_Scare]

But... the snail ;_;

[@OddlyBlue]

@@The_Red_Scare fuck the snail, bird up

[@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad]

​@@The_Red_Scare No body give a shit about snail

[@Kat-327]

​@@The_Red_Scare the snail is a bitch 👿

[@MrKaiju-sr8wu]

I’m a bit interested to see what they do with Stinger Flynn personally, though I don’t have high hopes

[@ThePipofDespair]

Literally like half an hour of the stream was trying to bring a baby birb to the end of the game. The baby birbs carried. Krembi the shiny baby is an icon.

[@aggrim1]

Bird went down 😔

[@ThePipofDespair]

@@aggrim1 Indeed 😔

[@Greenisanidiot]

Autism bird

[@KatKaiju]

I’m just sticking out this lazy technicolor adventure out of sheer curiosity of what the hell the big reveal is supposed to be. BIRD UP FOREVER. Also, your .png icon is so damn cute and expressive. Any chance we get an update on it with THE hat?

[@tylern6420]

what even is the png

[@echo_soldier]

Same here, out of just morbid curiosity. Its like watching a train wreck. You know its gonna be bad but you need details

[@tylern6420]

@@echo_soldier fun fact you have community tab

[@cobaltordinaire5219]

@@echo_soldier "you're like a car crash in slow motion. I'm just watching you fly through the windshield"

[@packman2321]

Honestly, I found the Bambellina section fairly intuitive (maybe I just think in the same way as the developers [the horror]) given that all the 'kids' are recordings and the order goes 'really smart', 'smart'. I think if the game gave you the ability to interrupt her and thus speed through once you'd heard the question once it would work a lot more smoothly. That said, if they wanted to make Bambellina the core focus of this chapter, I really think they should have built into her more. Maybe provide lore information before she turns up and have a few more encounters with her?

[@henrytheanglerfish6290]

I think its actually a cool concept but they really blunder it

[@bluewolf6323]

The Bambelina section did seem interesting, with the concept of it's supposed to be a kindergarten, there would be a learning section. It was interesting when you had to change from clique to clique to progress, wish they did more with that. The worst offense is, like you said, the dialogue is so droning and monotone that it makes doing the questions a chore. Maybe the devs wanted to simulate how school is to a kid, but considering the setup and the devs, I'm doubtful. I can think of a few ways improve the scene...slightly but I don't know how well it'll be. So, here's my take: first off, maybe more dialogue. Ik the voice acting is not great but just here me out. Allow the player to click the options before Bam finishes but make it kind of management like. If you interrupt her too fast, she'll show passive aggressive anger and if it happens again, she'll become angrier. Show that anger more instead of telling. Show her throwing or dragging the "student" who "interrupted" into the naughty and then her going back to normal. Show the heavy dents and cracks in the walls and on the students. Show the other students during the intermission being "afraid" and the different cliques having different reactions. Just make it interesting! Hell, have her have a ruler! Cliche as hell, but it's something if she's supposed be a teacher!

[@CojaGamez]

I think the thing that annoys me most is the set design. While games like Bendy and Poppy have locations that are a bit weird and far-fetched, they at least feel like an animation studio/toy factory respectively. Hardly anything about BanBan feels like a real kindergarten. Some of the areas are baffling in their design (for example the obstacle course thing, the giant ball pit with a random chair lift and the final area with just random red corridors). Some suspense of disbelief is required for a lot of mascot horror game locations in order to make them interesting to explore, but Garten of BanBan goes too far making it really just feel like random set pieces than a location that actually makes sense

[@daiymohermitaurenjoyer9160]

I guess I can't blame.BanBan for being half-asleep, if you had to be in this game, would you feel energized

[@mozzeralleh]

banban literally doesn't want to be there, he's waiting for the lunch break

[@asra-5180]

​@@mozzeralleh you realize it's a dev voice acting right? The devs are serious. So there is no joke.

[@persik123]

@@asra-5180 r/wooooooosh

[@levievil9220]

@@mozzeralleh honestly that’s actually funny I got it quick someone do a sketch of garden of ban ban actors like the monsters are costumes

[@cloudlemon9685]

​@@asra-5180 Oops

[@swampman5986]

The monster designs don't change enough from the "mascot" designs, this is a problem poppy playtime has as well where they just stick on some teeth and veins and call it a day

[@the-fun-has-arrived]

but isnt that the same thing with every mascot horror game like even fnaf

[@swampman5986]

@@the-fun-has-arrived it hits it's peak here plus games like fnaf at least get a slight pass since it's haunted robots and not genetically made creatures (batim did it the best imo)

[@Greenisanidiot]

Poppy playtimes designs at least have effort though, these mascots are just shapes with faces

[@bluewolf6323]

At least Poppy Playtime made every monster unique. In fact, I don't think I've veins on any of the monsters in Poppy. Maybe teeth but never veins...

[@4BYSSALTEETH]

i'm literally working on a satirical mascot horror concept (no planned release of any form of media just character and setting design experiments) and one of my biggest problems is how hard it is to put actual effort into designing a character in this style. the main mascot monster character is a cutesy marketable dragon plush with a shapeshifting mass of body horror like The Thing inside instead of stuffing which feels super out of place for a parody of this genre

[@StanleyG23]

Truly one of the sequels ever made!

[@Goose_that_goes_honk]

I was wondering when he’d talk about the baby birds, I was pleasantly surprised at the end

[@HonkYeahArson]

Omg I love your username

[@0Lottee0]

Chapter 3 should just be a Tamagotchi style game where you take care of the baby opila birds and nothing else. Just an immediate genre change to the one thing anyone ever liked from these games.

[@Tibainium]

The cannons in this game don't even match with the rest of the games art style

[@themetalmario77]

Nothing in this game matches the artstyle

[@pineapple-gw2hh]

There isn't an art style

[@therealspongebobfan2000]

16:21 HOLY CRAP IS THAT A SHINY OPILA BIRD

[@entothechesnautknight1762]

I think the nabnab section would have been improved if instead of those random "world building" workplace tips on the wall, the wall warning explained that Nabnab was colorblind, and by design defaulted to following the arrows for ease of containment/control, hence why the colored arrows were there and why they had some pointing the wrong direction. Could have even had a funny lore doc about a colorblind employee complaining or somethin. It's a little thing, but I think the lack of little details like this adds up to make the project feel as soulless as it does. The lack of justification for certain elements, the lack of interesting details, the lack of... Any real play testing, if the Banbolina section is anything to go by, the lack of any interactions with the baby Opila birds, the lack of follow up *with* Opila Bird, the lack of an unexpected "oh shit" moment like the first game had, it all just mixes into this unpalatable sludge. Imagine FNAF 1 without the randomly changing posters, without the bite of 87, without custom night, without golden Freddy, without Freddy's power outage song, without the nose boop. The basic gameplay of the main game is practically unchanged aside from a couple niche interactions, but so much of the charm and character that game had is... Gone. There's nothing left to bite into after the main gameplay is done. And that's still not a good comparison to GoBB here because at least the basic FNAF gameplay is still fun at baseline and not slow, tedious, and frustrating with controls that don't work. GoBB... Had potential. Had something to work with. We all recognize, remember, and like Opila Bird #BirdUp for a reason. And they just didn't. I think that's why GoBB has enraptured so many people; it's the same reason Hello Neighbor did. It legitimately had potential and they just threw it away. Now, GoBB wasn't anywhere near Hello Neighbor's level at all, of course, but it's more that it's the same principle.

[@primsylveon7451]

"You can't see Nabnab unless you die" Yes you can. During the chase sequence you can look up, It shows Nabnab's movements, usually you want to just go as fast as you can through it otherwise Nabnab will just cut corners and get you, but you can see him during the entire sequence if you wanted to.

[@Icyangel10]

It's kinda weird but Jumbo Josh can kill you if you some how activate the button before waiting for Bambellina & walk onto the X. At least from what I saw but besides that I agree with you. It's interesting seeing people talk about issues in the game. Everyone has differing thoughts on some of the mini games. Still no clue why this is under a kindergarten nor why this kindergarten is trying to play God by doing experiments to create mascots.

[@tamsuemomwife]

WHY THE FUCK IS EVERY INDIE GAMES FICTIONAL COMPANIES (even the good one) IS PLAYING FUCKING GOD FOR THE DUMBEST FUCKING REASON?!?!?!?!?

[@tamsuemomwife]

GOBB:FUCKING MASCOTS PPT:FUCKING TOYS FOR FUCKING KIDS name more if you like:)

[@trianglekid219]

it kills me how everyone just agrees that the platforming section is just "roblox obby" lmao

[@the-fun-has-arrived]

cant believe the class dojo characters became mascot horror antagonists

[@thatdudecubey]

12:47 i can't wait for banban fans to say "JUMBO JOSH CAN ACTUALLY KILL YOU AT THE END OF THE CHASE!!!!!111"

[@Agziter]

Wait he actually doesn’t? XD I didn’t know that

[@Mike14264]

My main gripe with the first puzzle is how... unfriendly it is to colorblind people. Or at least I think it could be.

[@smam9571]

yo! i have protanopia (a form of colourblindness that affects the red receptors) and while i can see what you mean, the first puzzle is actually alright, colourblind people such as myself can distinguish between shades for the most part and afaik there isnt a blue/red colourblind where they might be mixed up (the colour most commonly confused with blue in colourblindness is yellow). of course i only speak for myself here and am not a fan of this game but for me the first puzzle was fine

[@Mike14264]

@@smam9571 ah, ok then! Good to know it doesn't give you fellas that much trouble! Say, I didn't know yellow was the most common color that got more easily confused with blue for you dudes... what about red? I heard it's with green, or vice versa, but I'm curious now about it so I would like to know for sure, if you don't mind answering of course.

[@smam9571]

@@Mike14264 red and green are the colours affected in protanopia, thats what i have :) i dont mind answering at all

[@Mike14264]

@@smam9571 I see! Thanks for answering!

[@mrperson9877]

I saw you absolutely lose your mind to the softlock during stream lol. I almost laughed out loud.

[@IceHeartAlpha]

they couldnt even fall the pit?

[@mrperson9877]

@@IceHeartAlpha No, there was an invisible wall i believe.

[@flow1194]

this game makes me want to and that's probably the worst part about it.

[@mrperson9877]

Thats my least favorite part of games, when they make me

[@jso_VS]

i hate i mean whats the problem with it

[@yomomma6559]

Agree, like the part of this game where

[@davidbraccini4770]

In the end sequence they should have at least included a sequence where Nabnab, Ophila and Jumbo Josh could have killed you, with new chase sequence music.

[@LuckyDinosauur101]

Idk you made me really hyped for the second game and I actually kinda enjoyed it, even though the game was still kinda shit. I especially liked how it was much longer than the other, and the BABY BIRD. The BABY BIRD were the best

[@Deform-2024]

And the Euphoric Brothers wonder why people keep refunding this.

[@comixproviderftw_02]

Wake up babe, another Garten of BanBan video is uploaded

[@TaxFraudGaming1]

After playing Banban 2 5 times in a row I can say I have experienced all the stages of grief besides acceptance

[@superspun9944]

It would’ve been really funny if he put a black screen when he talked about the positives… which is what I think honestly

[@skipplayz7577]

They should have save the chase scene for all the banban character coming at you for the final chapter cause that scream final level material

[@adamusprime403]

I wanted to contribute my own thoughts, the nabnab bit is not remotely designed around colorblind people maybe playing it, I literally cannot differentiate the 2 arrow types

[@Dark_KK]

I hate the fact that everyone compares the obby segment to roblox obbies, atleast in roblox you Can move in midair

[@recon.0]

And atleast some Roblox obbies are well designed too

[@ImTheGuy]

You should change your name to Th3Banban3st

[@GuideTerrarian]

I hope opila multiplies in the next game

[@mattman15]

Honestly, I never expected Banban to sound like that, but I like it. I also think this game improved from the first. You gotta admit, it’s cool that these brothers release these chapters only a few months at a time, but they don’t come out bugged.

[@Ryuu28_voidgames]

“Roblox obby ass bullsh1t” Literally could not have described it better

[@RandomStuffGaming]

you could most definitely find an infinitely more entertaining garten of banban obby on roblox than in this game

[@Gabzew]

I love seeing little kids defending this game lol

[@yomomma6559]

I love seeing kids thinking garten of shitshit is better than fnaf or Poppy PlayTime

[@SonicAtlanticDev]

For a feris, time not thinking about school shootings passes slowly.

[@elfilin-to6dh]

Imagine if Chapter 3 is unironically a truly amazing horror masterpiece, one of the best horror games ever made, and then Chapter 4 is complete garbage again and the devs never bring it up

[@mamboo0743]

I'm kind of excited to see Stinger Flynn finally make an appearance in the third game very soon

[@genericname2747]

Jellyfish :)

[@RavenAveira]

I feel like Banbans voice was intentionally monotone to be bad in a funny way, atleast thats what I was thinking when I heard it which is why I actually got a good chuckle out of it, but if it was intended to be taken as a serious attempt at good voice acting then...yikes....REALLY prayin they were goin for the first option 😭

[@C___________]

I feel like I'm the only person that enjoy all the voice acting.

[@BooTheEater]

01:22 wow thanks Nabnab. What an inspiring and motivating phrase for the community.

[@freshyow8476]

Funny this is in bijuu mikes play through he accidentally skips the entire opilla baby bird section

[@theend-nz6vs]

Even tho the games shit we all gotta admit that opila and her babies are the best

[@Steve4Space]

8:20 That part is meant to suck out your sanity, and you cannot change my mind.

[@ThePaulper]

And so the Streisand effect continues. The more people milk this for content, the more money the devs will make. No matter how terrible it is.

[@LazyBevees]

it would be awesome if we could control the drone in more ways in the next game. Like using the controller to move the drone in high places as a camera, or light in dark rooms.

[@QueenVoodo0]

I was literally just looking at your channel and then you drop this! Glad to be here early

[@jacksonbarkerthebluehairedfox]

For me, I'm just straight up tired of horror games themed around childrens media and entertainment turned evil. Its just such an overdone trope at this point and they all look the same: Vibrant colors in a horror game, characters that look like they were designed in five minutes, and the same-ish settings

[@recon.0]

That’s why I was so happy when someone told me that BanBan was satire and then instantly being upset again when I found out it wasn’t

[@Revan384]

I've said this before, but you can just FEEL that the classroom segment was done that way to try and push players over that 2 hour threshold so they couldn't get a refund on the game.

[@Rori_]

When I played through the game the first time, I had all of the graphics maxed out. I didn't think much of it until the nabnab part. It is SO dark with the graphics maxed, it was virtually impossible to beat. I was only able to beat it after I messed with the graphical settings. Basically, I just turned everything down to low, with lighting on ultra or whatever.

[@Beanielandia]

The fact that the game had a comeback and literally fixed itself

[@jack_is_so_cool]

The urge to remake the game myself and make it actually good

[@fzxfzxfzx]

I KNOW RIGHT

[@genericname2747]

Already done, Garten of Banban reincarnated.

[@mars42cc]

7:30 pretty sure he has a monotone voice so thats why he sounds so tired and or bland to people Makes him feel like a fake red guy from dhmis ngl

[@Duck_mm1]

Charter is like a Roblox game for how blocking it is it even as a obby

[@thiscat9712]

OPILA BIRD UP

[@TheNightmareAngelYT]

All these puzzles and bullshit are nothing but the Euphoria Brother's desperate attempt to get you to play the game longer than the refund option can allow. It failed and they cried their asses off on Twitter about it. Calling it "scummy". THEY'RE THE SCUMMY ONES HERE!!! Also, the baby Opila birds are a Pokemon hoard. There's even a Shiny amongst them.

[@jx.lemons]

this is banban so far: opila bird > all of the characters yes banbaleena's classroom thingy had flaws, but in in my honest opinion, its the best part of all of banban.

[@rey3055]

13:50 they also used the same trailer music like 5 times bruh

[@MrKaiju-sr8wu]

I’m a bit interested to see what they do with Stinger Flynn, but that’s about the only thing that I’m interested in about the third one

[@benro6564]

Money laundering ass game

[@roseopal4787]

I guess you could say this series of games is really.. DRONING on... hahaha......

[@swiinglepop2813]

ban bans voice makes my southern hemisphere become a rainforest !!!!

[@JoelTheParrot]

3:16 HAH! I GET IT! BIRD-EN! LIKE BURDEN, BUT BIRD! 4:31 Well, more of a deathlock than a softlock. You don't have to quit out to a menu or anything. 11:27 bad example, this one's clever and makes sense and is even thematically interesting. The worst one is the sun question with the popular kid, that one's the least obvious. But the whole section and really the whole game reeks from a lack of playtesting. second example's bad too, they're cassettes and the solution to the puzzle isn't exactly gonna have the same thing twice

[@monstersfight4171]

8:03 Dumb reason

[@sophiebubbles07]

It’s a joke

[@sashapinesnguyenhienhoa8003]

Obby section tank control yeah seems about right Now we wait for banban 3

[@SilentMaryKate]

Garten of Banban 1: BIRD UP Garten of Banban 2: SNAIL DOWN (and also BIRD UP)

[@omenamunkki6352]

This game series saved my life

[@davidthecommenter]

i unplugged my grandma's life support to charge my laptop and play banban and she got up, unplugged my laptop, and left the room. truly an inspiration to everyone.

[@helpmeme8176]

Banbans voice is just red guys voice from dont hug me im scared

[@riraru_zorik]

THE LOOOOOORE

[@isabelleassaf589]

as an actor, the voice acting in this game physically PAINS me, they could’ve hired so many wonderful actors for a cheap price, what the fuck

[@Xeorboom]

don't stop #birdup ing Th3BanBan3st (BanBan sounds like an overworked retail employee)

[@cobaltblu4196]

yo. the pain giver thing I got right first try, it's just wordplay. honestly I don't see how so many people had issues with the classroom then again I am an avid point and click adventure player.

[@pengoschwortz4734]

3:16 guess you could say it’s a bird-en

[@CaelumRoxas]

I'm with Badd3st on this honestly. The game is very obviously bad, no denying it, but I ironically love the game for how stupid and funny it is.

[@the_godbodor7026]

One of the only things I relatively liked about Ban Ban 2 is the weird tube monster thing that shows up in the big pit area after Ban Ban knocks you out. It’s got a pretty neat design and is relatively scary, which is more than I can say for any else in this series.

[@rishinsenguptagoddestroyer5024]

"Garten of Banban 2 is an absolute disaster" Me: one word: no

[@nill1584]

I’m still not over how the character designs are something I made on an echisketch when I was a kid

[@BasementDweller_]

The parkour section was actually my favorite part...

[@Wolfy_13]

People think that the game is a disaster because of Banban's voice acting is awful, but that is actually HIS voice!!!

[@HEARTOFAHERO456XL65]

I found this channel because of "fanart" on Twitter. God help us all

[@foxcollias4444]

Ban ban sounds like red guy from don’t hug me I’m scared

[@dragonworrior8110]

Garten of banban 2 release right at my birthday

[@casualmanticore2758]

Videos about BanBan >>>>>>>>>>>> The game itself

[@yomomma6559]

Gameplays of Garten Of Banban>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Buying and playing the game yourself

[@AuthenticKale]

the sheer jumpscare of your character made my jaw drop for five solid seconds and now i am scared to watch the video but i also want to hear the same opinion from different people on garten of ban ban

[@samurailevi49]

I have a somewhat monotone voice, but even I can change it to sound really good in acting situations. It’s not hard at all. Seriously lol

[@markbruk2974]

We both agree on the same things and we probably want to improve the same things

[@TheFoxDuck123]

What do you mean ban ban 2 is the best game ever made 😂

[@diabetesgaming8022]

It made banbillion dollars in first week

[@palepinkkitten4758]

Why baddest so pretty tho 🥹

[@realsonic478]

I don't have popcorn but I have Skittles

[@MandyCandy13]

god just posted another video? satisfaction

[@infineoinfinite]

To be fair, this chap- I mean, *sequel,* of this game... is decent... it's just not that good, though. All opinions from you are valid, as BanBan is the most... meh, out of the rest.

[@fettuccinealfredo6499]

There needs to be a Montyverse mod of the game, but instead of Monty, it is Opila bird.

[@galaxypixelsapprihez2300]

Is it worser than fnaf security breach

[@thebushbros6626]

Yes

[@banananananananananananana.]

Help I’m starting to uniconically like the bird

[@velconx15]

I guess you can say, it's that *awful*

[@thebigyes8482]

I think the drone gimmick is just inately bad. There’s no gameplay there, it’s just a chore that the developers thought they had to include because of the hands in poppy playtime.