Gay Erasure Everywhere

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This video actually has a lot of gay in it, comment below what you think :)

[@wormtailsdeadtoe1169]

"Have you seen roman pottery? It's very gay." What a gloriously iconic way to end a video.

[@shadownight3030]

I couldn't have agreed more

[@matthewkoch6937]

It's very true, bisexuality and homosexuality were everyday occurrences in Roman and Greek society, so the pottery is explicit, and highly stylized.

[@clairebriggs4333]

Jamie I am stealing that line. (hope that's OK) Iconic 😁👌

[@alam5055]

well, he's very true. LGBT+ people exist since ancient times. Even the term "lesbian" comes from an island of Lesbos, where ancient greek lesbian poet, Sappho, lived.

[@John_Weiss]

@Agent Of Chaos 666 Weren't a lot of those accusations/rumors from when Gaius Julius was young? He was known for being a bit of a party-boy in his younger days, IIRC…

[@ArdenMix]

His shirt makes him look like he’s on Blue’s Clues. He’s adorable in it!

[@okaycandie2270]

Fr

[@maaarceee]

I know right!

[@ajkleipass]

I was thinking Sesame Street (the green and white of their logo)

[@playlistsandtextingstorys5197]

YEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[@cosmiccenter224]

Agreed also nice pfp

[@justanormalgeek8812]

“Have you seen Roman pottery? It’s very gay.” Literally my favorite quote of the whole video 😂

[@andysartz]

At first, I heard "have you seen Harry Potter? It's very gay" and was so confused lmao

[@fae91]

same, I was gonna comment that! XD

[@resourceress7]

Ancient Greeks and Romans... Yes, very different sex and gender norms. But all types of human love have been here as long as humans have. You know, since we're not carving modern culture in stone and pottery, how will anyone know what life was like for us hundreds or thousands of years from now? Somehow I doubt they'll be able to pull up the internet. What will people piece together about us? Layers and layers of garbage and plastic and rust, probably.

[@lorna_alice]

Genuinely made me choke on my juice 😂

[@overthe_rhone]

i almost choked

[@OneTopic]

The statue of liberty’s girlfriend is in Paris. 😊 There’s a smaller earlier version of her there!

[@ninjaoclock3865]

I love wholesome KZbinrs supporting other wholesome KZbinrs

[@bookbook9495]

This is the literal best…

[@oliawhale5018]

OH MY GOSH THAT IS THE BEST THING I'VE HEARD ALL DAY

[@Avrysatos]

Didn't you mention this in a video?

[@Avrysatos]

@@incognitomode49 why you gotta be that way? It takes no effort to not be mean, but you had to expend effort just to be a butt.

[@LoveLee_Dreamer]

The "You aren't lesbians because there's no sexual desire between you" really shows how deeply rooted the sexualizing and fetishizing of gay/lesbian relationships is.

[@julien4305]

And just how the concept of sex is so ingrained in having any romantic relationship :/ (ace people exist)

[@NettylSpryngs]

And also why does he assume gay people are going to be displaying their desire for eachother on a KZbin channel? Straight people don't usually do that with their partners. He's probably used to only seeing lesbians in porn and not as actual real life couples who aren't purposefully being overly sexual towards eachother.

[@sleepless-o3j]

@@julien4305 yeah, I’m an ace lesbian and I think it’s really stupid how sex is just expected in a relationship :/

[@leila_de_hautjardin]

@@sleepless-o3j I find it really sad. A KZbinr that I liked made a video about her asexuality and there were men in comments telling her how she will never be able to have a relationship. For some weird reason, people can understand that sex can exists without love but not the opposite. Sometimes people ask "But if you're not having sex, it's boring. What are you doing ?" I think it's good for non asexual people to think about the importance of sex in their romantic relationships too. I find it a bit weird to break up with someone just because of that when every other aspects of the relationship is perfect.

[@nessyness5447]

@@sleepless-o3j i ace, heteroromantic as far as i know. I am sex indiferent so i have been sexually active but i just don't feel ok with engaging that often and i when i really really are not up to it i feel borderline repulsed. Like there are days any sexual thing makes my skin crawl. The day i realized i had to broke up with my ex was when i entered his house one weekend, and told him that i was super time and was not going to be ok with sex and to not even try to go there, to just enjoy a relaxing afternoon watching some movies and cuddling. His literal reaction was " i can't promise that, i will stop if you tell me to, but you have to understand that i have to try because you are just too hot"....wtf? Too hot for what? Respecting my fucking feelings and boundaries?

[@rainyugghost9263]

Two women: kiss, get married, say they're a lesbian couple many times The cishet's: OMG SUCH GOOD FRIENDS

[@silvergameryair2084]

True

[@spoon1968]

And they're about to have a child. What a wonderful friendship. That baby will be raised by the bestest of friends.....

[@thornarts]

on the other hand... boys: touch once GAYY?!?!//11?

[@Stephen-Fox]

@@thornarts Until the historians spot them. Khnumhotep and Niankhkhnum and the 'tomb of two brothers' comes immediately to mind.

[@thornarts]

@@Stephen-Fox the classic bros

[@Doctor-Infinite]

Jamie looking like that kid from school that would show off his awesome sticker collection

[@stateofgrace03]

aww

[@70Lu07]

And i would absolutely enjoy every sticker gladly

[@veggiefritters]

@@70Lu07 yes i want to see the scented ones

[@pretty948]

No matter how old* I am stickers will always make me happy :)

[@Kay-ql2wl]

In a good way tho :)

[@whoknows.201]

some historical gay erasure: In ancient Greek mythology, Achilles and Patroclus (who some people don't even know was a part of the story which is a crime) were NOT cousins like Troy wants you to believe, or besties like all the history teachers say. They were lovers, and the Rage of Achilles was all because of Patroclus' death. Achilles literally asked for their ashes to be mixed in the same urn so they could be together for eternity, and they were buried side by side. In his mourning speech for Patroclus, Achilles spoke of his 'unblemished thighs' and the kisses they would share together, and referred to him as his most 'beloved'. like there is legitimately NO straight explanation for that.

[@hi-vt2wt]

Yeah it's like homosexually somehow got lost along the way because it was considered as normal at the time this was written

[@slimetank394]

@@hi-vt2wt ask the newer religious come after Greek and Roman I mean, this is something quite specific, but Hawaiian culture have the 2 spirit gender who're not considered man or woman, and they've always been an irreplaceable part of their culture. Then American bring Christianity and the "glory of God" in and force them to erase that. They literally got erased by Force for religious reasons

[@harley-amybanks2168]

Luckily Stephen Fry's Greek mythology books have no gay erasure, they're amazing! He fully covers this in his book Troy

[@MlleSallyBrown]

Hey I'm not sure if I'm getting your comment wrong but Achilles's story is not historical - it's mythical. His story comes from oral lyric mythologic tradition and was written down around the 7th or 8th century BC (there was a lot that was added after this of course) ! And yeah, Greeks were so patriarchal they went as far as preferring (male) homosexuality to heterosexuality, because a man, as a superior, more intelligent and spiritual being, was considered a better partner. Obviously they still married to have children, but it was a very accepted point of view. So, gayness is really different in ancient Greek society, it's quite incorrect to romanticize it with our modern eyes ! Sorry if I took misunderstood something or was obnoxious, I'm just a future anthropologist trying to spread some cool facts lol

[@whoknows.201]

@@MlleSallyBrown hey :) and yeah I meant mythical, I just put historical because of how long it’s been around, and for the homophobes who like the excuse of it being a new thing to be lgbt and all

[@rowansafley6133]

I’m sure those medical classmates were very familiar with each other’s anatomy

[@childharvester8131]

this made me chuckle,thank you.

[@paytonparalian637]

I-

[@chasingstars5614]

😂

[@razzbarree9020]

o u c h ajfnakv

[@rowansafley6133]

@Agent Of Chaos 666 Fun fact: Despite being doctors, neither could cure either of their lovesickness

[@katieholliday3782]

The Incredibles took place in the 1960s so I wouldn’t be surprised if the animators were trolling/commenting on ‘60s-era erasure more so than actually participating in erasure themselves.

[@lialeeXAA5]

I never know it was meant to be 60s! That comment makes total sense now that I have the information!

[@jackhummer8344]

I agree. Especially since the profile is from an in-universe database.

[@katieholliday3782]

@@lialeeXAA5 Yeah, I didn’t know until the second one came out. It was more obvious in that one and there were a number of articles about it at the time, too.

[@ollieno971]

@@katieholliday3782 didn’t they have cellphones and stuff in the second one??

[@katieholliday3782]

@@ollieno971 I think that’s why a lot of people don’t know it’s in the ‘60s: there’s a lot of advanced tech, but it’s all from Edna Mode or made by the villains. None of the non-central characters have cellphones, GPS, etc. The cars, clothes and houses are all very late ‘50s/early ‘60s and there are 1960s TV shows shown on TVs in the background as well as one scene where Mr. Incredible is reading a newspaper and the date is May 16, 1962.

[@CornOnAKhob]

I hate it when teachers go out of their way to say or write he/she instead of using they/them pronouns

[@user-hanging-at-the-hanged-man]

When your transphobia so strong you make your own life harder

[@sikly_frsh]

Ikrrrr it’s so inconvenient too. Like bruh stop going out of your way to be transphobic

[@andysartz]

I'm a teacher (English for Foreign Learners) and I do the contrary. Everytime a book says "he/she", I read it as "they". My students are picking up the habit, too. :)

[@mrpedrobraga]

@@andysartz I like you

[@rainydays3.5]

OMG SAME AGGHHHHHH

[@Rainbowthewindsage]

We actually had an entire conversation in my American lit class about how Emily Dickinson was probably at least bisexual.

[@Rainbowthewindsage]

Fun fact about some of the letters she wrote to Susan, I thought I'd add. I forget why but someone actually erased Susan's name out of them, so it wasn't until recently that we were able use technology to see that it was addressed to Susan.

[@radiationshepherd]

There's a biopic about it on Hulu that's pretty good

[@Rainbowthewindsage]

@@radiationshepherd Is it called something like Wild Nights with Emily? It think my teacher actually mentioned it.

[@SusanOnTVShows]

@@iham4308 Pretty sure that was just a way to say that she might be lesbian or she might be bi.

[@mbr7156]

56 yr old here -- we been knew, lol. same 56 yr old: i'm sorry my generation didn't do a better job.

[@cherubp3447]

"And they were roommates" - Me for most of this video

[@lynniewood]

Oh my god they were roommates

[@therainbowziege2317]

“They were best friends who lived together”

[@brianpickford3031]

@@lynniewood they even shared a bed!

[@just_jana9959]

@@brianpickford3031 What a wonderful friendship

[@brianpickford3031]

@@just_jana9959 To be clear they were ✨b e s t f r i e n d s✨

[@YourMochi]

My mom and I both came out to each other at the same time. I told her I have something to tell her and she said I have something to tell you too. I go “mom I think I’m pansexual.” And she celebrates before looking me in the eyes and saying “thank god. I’m bisexual.” And we celebrated together. I love my mom :)

[@Tommy-kf5xv]

That is beautiful

[@NettylSpryngs]

So cute. You could have a coming out party together!

[@glamorouslynothere4785]

Hahaha yess

[@mollyoldfield746]

This is like how I came out to my mom lol I came out as pan and she was like "cool, I'm bi" 🤣

[@tami7992]

Awww, this is so beautiful and amazing and cute 💙💙💙

[@sherrisdouglas6994]

“That is her wife!” Best defender of gay relationships goes to jammi

[@gawd-zila]

When Jamie and Samantha Lux post on the same day, that day is automatically the best day ever.

[@aqua_skies8740]

Yass

[@merelymeepsheep2614]

@@violetskiy854 Samantha Lux is a trans youtuber who makes similar content to Jamie :)

[@gapako_]

Ikr? It just makes my life a bit happier

[@karmicxkoala]

Yep, I have her video queued up for next :)

[@kae41]

Samantha lux is amazing!!!

[@JuMixBoox]

I love how scandalised Jamie is at the mere idea that someone could mistake Jessica and Claudia for straight.

[@kateg9437]

Well, they are literally kissing. On the lips. I can kinda understand people assuming friends/sisters when they see women hug, or hold hands, even a kiss on the cheek. But making out? That's gay af

[@JuMixBoox]

@@kateg9437 I don't disagree

[@haleygray5594]

LITERALLY

[@dexa6623]

Lol, I'm sure Jessica and Claudia would be pretty confused too. I can imagine them having a laugh about it.

[@melanieg2089]

I once wrote about a man who fell in love with a merman and my writing teacher said "it would be better if the merman was a meremaid". After that I left the class forever 🙃

[@CipherDorito]

Ekkks. The erasure is strong in this one.

[@missnaomi613]

It's ironic when writing teachers can't wrap their brains around new-for-them ideas. 🙄

[@kunaihanaki]

What in the world-

[@soyboy6953]

I wrote a short story for my english class, and it was about two guys who went into this haunted tower and fell in love (very gay), and my English teacher said ‘I love the developed friendship between the two. It even hints at more’. Listen, I like you as a teacher, but they are very much in love thank you very much

[@CipherDorito]

@@soyboy6953 Ignorance for all the wrong reasons.

[@jaketaylor2775]

Okay but the "Who are you dating?" *says a clearly masculine name* "Oh that's a weird girls name." thing happened to me

[@NettylSpryngs]

Me, a girl: I'm dating Mary Random cis het person: Weird name for a boy Me:... Yeah, it would be, if she were a boy???

[@finlaysclips5163]

69 njc3

[@BobSmith-qn3ii]

Are you dating someone? Yeah, his name is malcom- Oh, that’s a weird girls name… I’d never name *my* daughter something like *that* … *dumbfounded*

[@whynot7585]

Reporter: “You’re not qualified to speak about the LGBT+ community because you’re bisexual and that’s not part of it.” Person: “Then what does the B stand for?” Reporter: (Not wanting to admit) “Uh...Birds?”

[@5H4NKTH35HARK]

Ah yes, I am *b i r d*

[@ZeldaRoseSongbook]

To all my rainbow family, know that you are valid, loved, and amazing because you are you.

[@dooskaaaa]

thank you so much. that means alot.

[@crunchevo8974]

I've been liking Alphabet Mafia latley. It was probs initially said to mock us but it genuinely sounds cute 🤣

[@ZeldaRoseSongbook]

@@crunchevo8974 I also enjoy Alphabet Mafia, honestly; I was just running low on brainpower and drew a blank.

[@crunchevo8974]

@@ZeldaRoseSongbook tell me about it I'm on 4 hours of sleep and i have literally 8 hours at work to go lol

[@ZeldaRoseSongbook]

@@crunchevo8974 I send you a big burst of energy to help get you through the doldrums of work.

[@leiacartier2259]

“Have you seen Roman pottery? It’s very gay.” Is hands down the best line

[@soggybogwitch]

6:30 Not me blushing at a letter sent to someone else 200 years ago

[@fae91]

yup

[@anushareddy2122]

6:05 Does anyone else know that there's a webseries named Dickinson that is about the same Emily Dickinson played by Hailey Steinfeld? No one? Just me? Okay.

[@fae91]

@@anushareddy2122 I know of it, but I haven't watched it (yet)

[@fabianhebestreit3240]

@@anushareddy2122 You mean the show that has two seasons on Apple, with a third on its way, and has won the Peabody Award? No, I don't believe other people know about it.

[@anushareddy2122]

@@fabianhebestreit3240 Whoa.. U know more than I do

[@Anne_303]

I’m a simple girl, I see gay tea, I click. I see Jessie and Claude I CLICK EVEN FASTER.

[@catrinasalesscott5402]

YOUR PROFILE PIC!!!!! I LOVE TGWDLM! starkid is the best.

[@penelopestonee]

i have vERy low blood sugar-

[@sapphicrose8213]

@@penelopestonee *EXcUSE mE* (Does a gay lil shuffle step)

[@gayinred9861]

ok i live for your profile pic i have vEry low blood sUgAr

[@arundhatikhopade9200]

It's awful that I can't tell my extended family about my girl. Whenever I try to talk about LGBTQ+ topics with them they shut me off saying it's all BS. My Dad says he won't come to my wedding if I marry a girl. The only reason I feel valid is because of my mom who supports me and tells me that it's natural and not wrong.

[@NettylSpryngs]

It is natural. I hope some day they learn to accept you.

[@missnaomi613]

It is natural and not wrong. You are valid. ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜

[@sunflowersandsarcasm4518]

Your mom is a wonderful person, and you should ignore the rest of your family. I have had similar problems, and I know that you can teach them to open their minds.

[@goodgollymissmolly7624]

Can I be your internet dad? I don’t gotta walk you down the aisle if you don’t want me to, but I think I’d be a better dad than the one you have right now. Edit: oh my hell i just realized this video and this comment are two years old 🙃

[@drew-anna9863]

I feel very offended by Jamie's shirt, that I don't have it 🥺

[@gaxalee7392]

It makes him look very soft.

[@resourceress7]

Like a trans flag, but with neon lights for decoration.

[@NettylSpryngs]

Same

[@barrysteakfriessimp_real]

i know, it's an adorable shirt,,

[@MomAmiAndKiddoKelsi]

Trans/Enby/Cis and every letter in LGBTQ+ ; * You are valid! 💙 * You are loved! 💜 * You are not alone! 💗 * I am proud of you! 💙 💜 Sending Mom-Hugs to everyone who need one! 💗

[@LowYummy]

Ty

[@JakeGuttormsson]

Thanks!

[@masonmaniac7410]

Aww..❤️

[@th3c0smos]

❤️❤️

[@jmiddleton7518]

THANKS MOTHER ILYSM /p /lh

[@cocovcoco]

“Have you seen roman pottery” is my new go to line for people who say “there weren’t all these sExUaLiTiEs when i was growing up”

[@totallyoutofit6989]

my sociology teacher has lately been quite inclusive of trans people. He has always been inclusive of gay/bi people. But still, it's progress. He even talked about the possible exclusion of trans people in the gay community and honestly it was just lovely to hear he actually thinks about this stuff

[@ThatBlondePerson]

There's definitely some things I see in history where it's someone who never took a partner and lived alone and a lot of people jump to say they were probably a part the LGBT community, but ace/aro is never the option brought to the table. There were probably a ton of ace/aro people in history that we don't know about either. It's comforting to think that they might have found some solace on their own back then.

[@Cherrycreamsoda1]

Yes! And aro/ace suffer even worse erasure because they are some of the rarest sexualities and a lot of people don't even believe they exist :/ (edit: even autocorrect changed 'aro' to 'are'. Twice.)

[@ThatBlondePerson]

@@Cherrycreamsoda1 I don't love to play the "who has it worse" game, but with our small numbers, ace/aro rep is already pretty low, and that means we have like, 0 media rep as well ☹

[@seal8900]

@@ThatBlondePerson zero rep that isn’t in villains. I’m not ace/aro but whenever I see the whole “THIS PERSON IS BAD AND CANT FEEL LOVE AND IS BAD” I cringe myself into another dimension. Can’t imagine what it’s like for y’all

[@Rain-np7tk]

The Sappho and her friend sub makes me laugh so much

[@randomdreamer5429]

thEy wEre rOomMaTEs

[@chasingstars5614]

@@randomdreamer5429 oH mY gOd tHeY WeRe RoOmMaTeS

[@samueltyler3608]

The pure himbo energy in the "tear and share" bit gave me life

[@maaarceee]

I just wanna say happy early pride month everybody! 🏳️‍🌈💜

[@amedeacatpaw5987]

@alascow same!!! Let’s be proud together!

[@Mayte-AC]

@alascow Mine too!

[@callmekc9793]

Happy pride! ❤💜💙

[@lynno.c.6529]

@alascow Then I especially hope that it will be great for you ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜 🎉

[@urfavoritefurry4368]

@alascow same!!!! :DDDD

[@-Sheva-]

Jamie seems like the nicest and most wholesome guy ever

[@chasingstars5614]

And he totally is ^^

[@maki_707x]

@@jan_Kapije he* :) not "she"

[@wonieism]

@@jan_Kapije he*

[@insanechildwitch4674]

@@jan_Kapije he*

[@bluespike0517]

@@jan_Kapije he indeed is trans and very handsome and wholesome too, hes great

[@rendessa3502]

It’s been confirmed by historians and scholars that homosexual relations were normalized and encouraged in Ancient Greece. The only reason it’s considered wrong today is because of the Catholic Church’s rise to power.

[@franziska9260]

I mean. achilles and patroclus. Sappho. allegedly artemis and callisto. apollo and hyacinthus, dionysus and prosymnus, zeus and Ganymede, poseidon and tantalus' kid (forgot his name). . .

[@johannam.9435]

RenDessa I love your profile pic🏳️‍🌈💞

[@patch2932]

Actually they weren’t. Do some history research, or I can tell you here. A lot of gay “relationships” in Greece and Rome were between bedslaves and/or prepubescent boys and grown men. Mostly because a young boy could be turned into a eunuch and also couldn’t be impregnated to produce a bastard child, whereas a young girl might. In Greece and Rome, the “bottoms” were not considered real men. They were often put down and not respected. The “tops” were considered real men and respected though. The idea being that a more submissive party is in the “woman’s position” so they should be treated as a woman. Most stories about homosexuality from that time ends in complete tragedy. Does this mean there were no good relationships? No. But this also means the community should stop upholding Rome and Greece as if it were a good place for gay people, because it was not.

[@Feasael]

@@patch2932 you're not totally incorrect, but that's incredibly reductive and unhelpful for understanding human sexuality

[@patch2932]

@@Feasael How though? The community needs to stop upholding ancient Greece and Rome as pinnacles of gay “acceptance” because that just isn’t what it is, why would we believe in a lie? Why would we want to perpetuate the idea that the horrible things that happened in that time in history are okay?

[@StephenBoothUK]

It’s always nice to see Jess and Claud they are so cute and obviously in love in their videos that they are true relationship goals territory. Everyone should be so lucky as to have a relationship like theirs.

[@SushiTea7]

But when do we talk about Aromantic erasure 😩

[@childharvester8131]

I’m asexual and not Aro but I 💯agree.

[@pluto3194]

As an aro. YES. Aro erasure is NOT cool

[@SushiTea7]

@@pluto3194 there's *so* much erasure that I thought of myself as weird until just recently when I found out that I was aro 💔

[@NettylSpryngs]

Yessss and platonic relationships between people who have the potential to like eachother. Like straight men and women and gay people with the same gender and bi people with everybody etc etc.

[@fruittypun799]

Yep, people always says you just haven't met the correct person yet

[@jorjajordan131]

"Have you seen romen pottery? it's very gay" omg I loved that

[@august1837]

Idk why, but “they got really mixed up with their rainbows” is now one of my favorite sentences. I’m going to use it to describe confused homophobes from now on

[@angryotter9129]

“Have you seen Roman pottery? It’s very gay.” I NEED that on a shirt.

[@fae91]

I also got immediately super angry when I saw Jessie and Claud in the thumbnail, cause I just don't understand how they'd ever not be seen as a couple

[@WishGender]

Lmao yeah they’re literally about to be parents together smh

[@EverTheFractal]

@@WishGender oh my god, really? Good for them!

[@fae91]

@@EverTheFractal yes! Claudia is pregnant, and the baby is only a couple of months away!

[@EverTheFractal]

@@fae91 That's fantastic news haha, I need to watch their videos again. It's not a channel that deserves to be put to the wayside even with a busy schedule

[@stareyedwitch]

@@fae91 According to a recent video, it's less than a month at this point. Also, they host "Ask Your Lesbian Moms" together. It's a great series.

[@spinachsheik3701]

Jamie, I just want to say that you were one of the most useful trans resources on KZbin when I started transitioning. My sibling recently started watching you. I feel they're finally ready to start accepting themself as trans nonbinary. So, thank you for your channel's positive and inclusive atmosphere. I hope you had a nice day. :D

[@kai_maceration]

That's awesome!! I'm so happy for you both!💞

[@min3craftiscool553]

Congrats! I always love to see people accepting who they are and finding happiness in themselves and people like them! I may be cis but as an asexual homoromantic girl, I understand that finding that one person you can see yourself in is more Important than anything else. I haven't found that person for me yet but I'm still searching! If I can't find them then I'll become them for others like me... just not anytime soon (still closeted and a bit shy, even in my GSA I'm the only ace and they didn't even know what ace was)

[@justapuffin7303]

Congratulations! I’m so happy for you

[@Adamant_Adam]

Oof if my sister also came out as trans I think my dad would kill me

[@missnaomi613]

I found this channel as a place to learn. (My firstborn is trans enby.) I stayed for the entertainment and loving community. ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜

[@TiBunCosplay]

Okay but that "Kate is a strange name for a guy" comment reminded me of the time I was watching LotR with my parents and my dad has the habit of pausing the movie constantly to ask questions, and halfway through the movie my dad paused it to ask "who are these two guys again?" and I said "Merry and Pippin" and My dad gasped out in the most scandalized tone "MARY! That GUY's name is MARY?!" I explained to him that it was short for Meriadoc, but ever since then I headcanoned Merry as being genderfluid.

[@SwanSongsDiary]

What movie?

[@kanafinwereincarnation]

XDDDD yes

[@kanafinwereincarnation]

@@SwanSongsDiary Lord of the Rings.

[@firefly927]

Please don't say "JUST friends". It implies friendships are automatically on a lower level than romantic &/or sexual relationships. Love, an aroace.

[@eleanorholmes9431]

I agree! Sometimes I try to understand it as opposed to being “lovers AND friends” because people in romantic and/or sexual (or queer-platonic) relationships should also be friends with each other, I think? I don’t really get relationships, tbh^^. But I often heard people saying their best friends are at least as important as their “significant others”. Kind regards, another aro-ace

[@leafy_green7573]

ive never actually thought of it this way. i will be removing the phrase “just/only friends” from my vocabulary, thank you :)

[@emisor9272]

The opposite thing often happens where friends of different genders are assumed to have a romantic and/or sexual relationship. Fictional example: Family: Where are you going? Dude: Im having lunch with my friend Alice Family: Ohh... your "friend" 😏 Of course it's not as bad as erasure but it probably comes from the same prejudices

[@greygoose8803]

yeah its setting heterosexuality as the norm and implying it's everyone's main objective constantly

[@PixelatedH2O]

When many people see women kiss they think either: - they're good friends - they're just looking for attention - they're gay when they see men kiss: - they're gay

[@Rachel-fi4sc]

I've posted this on another one of these gay erasure videos, but the pic of Jesse and Claude reminded me of it again: Several years ago, my then-girlfriend and I were in the airport, saying goodbye before her flight home (long-distance relationship). We were 15/16 at that point, and so didn't have full driver's licences, so my mum had to play chauffeur. Anyway. The gf and I kissed goodbye at the entrance to security. Like, the kiss you give your gf when you know you won't see her again until the end of the next school term. A well-meaning but clueless airport kiosk attendant immediately exclaimed, "Oh, it's wonderful to see sisters who get on so well together!" I pulled away and replied, "This is my girlfriend. If that's how you kiss your sister, you have issues." Mum tried to tell me off for being rude, but she was laughing too hard.

[@lukescastle]

Sweet home alabama

[@ProfessorSpacecakes]

Fun Fact: my favorite character from Dragonball Z, Piccolo, is like weirdly responsible for me accepting that I don't have to have bottom surgery (which I absolutely do not want) to still be a proper trans man. I was like "well everyone jokes that he doesn't have a donger and he's still a big manly badass that no one misgenders, so I'm good"

[@flamebunny6511]

That’s awesome!

[@missnaomi613]

You are valid, loveable, and enough, however you are. Just be your awesome self. 💙💗🤍💗💙

[@ninjabluefyre3815]

Trans men = Namekians confirmed.

[@conlon4332]

I love Jamie's reaction to seeing Jessica and Claudia! It was so cute!

[@kathilisi3019]

Judging other people's sexual energy by seeing them kiss is very difficult. My husband and I are a cis-hetero couple but we're both very awkward in front of a camera and not much into public displays of affection. Our public kisses certainly aren't loaded with sexual desire for everyone to see. I also know a gay couple who have been living together for about 10 years and have been married for three, and I have never ever seen them kiss or even hold hands. An arm around the shoulder is the most physical public display of affection I've seen from them, and that was at a birthday party among very good friends. But you can still tell they care deeply about each other. They don't need to validate their love by kissing in front of others.

[@jennastephens1224]

Catch me and my gf wearing the best friends rainbow necklaces out on a date. If anyone asks if we're a couple, I'll just say we're just gals being pals

[@NettylSpryngs]

I would get them for me (pan) and my best friend (lesbian). Don't let anyone tell you you can't be friends with someone you have the potential to be attracted to. If that were true, bisexual people would never be able to have platonic friendships. (Not that it wouldn't be cute for a relationship too)

[@shtary]

I love how Jammie loves his Shirts, and how he has so many fun ones

[@mollyham6199]

me: * comes home from my all girls school * Aunt: so nice to see you are you dating anyone? me: yes aunt: oh so good your getting out , where did you meet them? me: at school aunt: I thought it was an all girls school me: yes. aunt: 👁👄👁 me: 👩🏻‍🤝‍👩🏽

[@sarachristy2455]

I actually got matching rainbow bracelets with a friend of mine when we were like 11, flashfoward 10 years and i came out as bi and she came out as gay and one drunken night of truth or dare we found out we both had crushes on each other when we were younger

[@thejabberwocky5884]

Are y’all together now or nah?

[@missnaomi613]

Foreshadowing

[@sarachristy2455]

@@thejabberwocky5884 nahh

[@thewholecircus]

As much as Jamie makes fun of friend marriage, platonic ace marriage is a real thing

[@rockandrollfantasy86]

Yeah but this was about gals being pals and denying the fact that women could never love each other or have sexual relationships, for years people thought it was impossible, that there had to be a man involved to make it sexual.

[@SadBlueGirl]

“Think Mark Think,do best friends get married,adopt a child,and build an entire family together!!”

[@godismetons]

Can I just say that there is no need for sexual desire to be in a romantic relationship? Ace people exist. And their relationships are valid! Saying that people aren't a couple because of the lack of "sexual desire" is so wrong on so many levels!

[@janp.7474]

"Have you seen Roman pottery? It's very gay" is a quote I want to use in a conversation one day.

[@giannaleng1897]

The whole “you’re just bringing a friend” made me very sad. I’m straight but I would never ever degrade my significant other by referring to them as just a friend when they mean so much more to me. Least of all to please a raging homophobe.

[@sarahno4748]

It sucks no matter who you are yeah.

[@leila_de_hautjardin]

I have seen this trend of people saying they married/ they are dating their best friend. I think it's so weird...

[@reesemalo]

Unfortunately in some cultures you need to lie and say they're your friend or else

[@sarahno4748]

@@reesemalo until you can make enough money to leave that place hopefully.

[@dylanpaterson7082]

Friends can be just as important as loverd

[@ProjectLethargic]

Jamie is adorable and his existence is pure even when talking serious things

[@random23287]

"Have you seen Roman pottery? It's very gay" 😂That was my favorite part

[@mhaeric]

For someone like me of a certain age, this video had a lot of hilarious double meaning because Erasure is a UK band from the 80's that stands the test of time as iconically gay. Gay Erasure the band = good. Gay erasure the social phenomenon = bad. The number of times Jammi said Erasure in the first minute had my head spinning lol

[@silvergenx]

The one about Jesse and Claudia cracked me up. I followed them before you or Shaaba, and I found you through them. But what made it funnier is that there was no real doubt about that being Jessica, not between the ribbon and the hair.

[@ak-lr7wy]

"have you SEEN Roman pottery?? - it's very gay" so true

[@RandiPoitras]

Saw Jessica and Claudia in the thumbnail 😍 “Omgeeee theyre such good friiiends” WHAT PLANET ARE YOU ON?? 🤣🤣🤣 Im dead 😂

[@AyvrialMarmey]

His shirt is giving me Sesame Street vibes and I’m here for it

[@evelyngregg4666]

"have you seen Roman pottery? It's very gay" is definitely going on the list of senior quotes

[@GuitarCatDude]

Before I get lost in the sea of comments, I hope you're having a nice day,, Stay hydrated and make sure to get some sleep,, you are awesome and valid ^-^

[@garakbashir1736]

Commenting just to reiterate that *hydration is important*

[@wonieism]

[@GuitarCatDude]

@@garakbashir1736 Mhm!

[@GuitarCatDude]

@@wonieism ^-^

[@missnaomi613]

You as well, dear person!

[@atreq]

"Have you seen Roman pottery? It's very gay!" I love this :D :)))

[@levonn404]

Achilles: * asks to have his ashes mixed with Patroclus' and buried together * Scholars: Wow what great friends 👍

[@kai_maceration]

2:31 OMG!! that's the most beautiful cake I ever saw, i want one😭🌈

[@microwave14ry54]

As a Greek, I do confirm that a few people I've met indeed believe that the lgbtq is recent and also an American thing that was brought here

[@schmohobzsia7216]

The myth of Apollo and Hyacinthus? Definitely American export.

[@SaraWolffs]

TIL Achilles and Patroklos were American... Seriously have these people not even read Homeros?

[@ExtremeWreck]

@@SaraWolffs They would've, but most people in modern Greece apparently wouldn't know much ancient Greek literature for whatever reason.

[@trixxartarchive7705]

How could someone think Claudia and Jessica where just friends Jessica literally talks all the time about her beautiful wife.

[@o_o5210]

10:03 BULL SHEET! The first gay couple dates back to ANCIENT EGYPT! I think they were royal attendants or something. I forgot most of the story, but they were often depicted in the most intimate position is Egyptian art

[@daisiesforghosts]

When people say “they married their friend or best friend” I don’t quite mind that personally because any sexuality marrying their best friend (now lovers) is so wholesome. What are you doing if you’re not best friends with your partner?

[@Vexic929]

I feel like this subreddit is so good because it's normally not malicious, it's just straight people forgetting that people can be gay which is fair because I often forget people can be straight

[@leeloumacgregor4464]

“Have you SEEN Roman pottery it’s very gay” Love that

[@3bugsinatrenchcoat]

i like the shirt, jammi!! i've never been this early before haha

[@io_online]

Anyone else get the biggest rush of serotonin ever when he says 'hey spuds'? Just makes me so happy

[@calamityjean1525]

I love Jamie's voice, it's so cuddly-sounding. It also doesn't hurt that he's hot as heck.

[@foxwoodjones9831]

I know people do it more to those in the gay community (unfortunately), but those of us in the straight field get it occasionally too. My brother was engaged to get married and brought his fiancé to community picnic (very small southern town). Everybody already knew that he was going to be bringing his fiancé ahead of time, but the MC of the events still said over the microphone to my brother, “Would you like to introduce us to your special friend?” 🙄🤣 So funny, yet also such an eye-rolling experience. Ahh, so that’s what we are supposed to call out significant others now- “special friends”. 🤣🤷🏻‍♀️

[@tinas_hotdog_sophie]

I just had a moment of BOOM: When I was a kid my grandma had two female friends who lived together since their 40s after one got divorced (other one never married). And I just also just remembered how my grandma would sometimes make inuindos that only just now during this video make sense to me. I have to call my mom and ask.

[@helpilostmybeanie1868]

i smell the fruitiness in the air

[@freddogrosso9835]

Wow, that Emily Dickinson letter filled my heart. To be loved like that...

[@evening-skye]

had a sapphoandherfriend moment today. a guy asked me and my girlfriend if we were sisters (we look nothing alike), then cousins, then step-sisters, and then old friends. Never even came close to girlfriends. we'd been holding hands the whole time.

[@NettylSpryngs]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@VexRavenhardt]

I hear the word Erasure and all I can think is "always I wanna be with you and make believe with you and live in harmony harmony" . Always by Erasure

[@samwisegamgee6532]

4:39 the cutest “oh, hold on” I’ve ever heard

[@binniiemylove]

Hey Jamie! I recently bought the "dinosaurs are cool transphobia is not" hoodie for my non-binary sibling for their birthday that's coming up in about 2 months. I'm trying my best to be supportive, and I've gotten the pronouns down majority of the time, but I'm struggling with the name. Do you know any way to remember the knew name better? (Love you btw!)

[@LadyAneh]

I’d just say whenever you see them, think of their new name to yourself, and you’ll eventually just think of them as belonging to that name. :)

[@NettylSpryngs]

Put a photo of them with the name written on it on something you look at regularly like a planner or notebook or the back of your phone, maybe your wallet. Then you will see it often and connect the name with their face.

[@vidyasreeram2587]

Imagine them as a swarm of bees❤

[@notdancooper923]

4:05 On that topic, when I was still living with my parents, one of our neighbors was a pair of middle aged women who had lived together for at least 20 years. For my whole life I assumed they were a couple but a few years ago my mum told me they were actually just good friends who both went through rough divorces and decided to give up on men entirely and live their lives together as perfectly content straight women

[@extraterrestrialelliot]

Remember guys, people who are gay should not be constantly erased and shown to be close friends Can and does coexist with People of the same gender (or otherwise, even) and asexuals are allowed to show physical affection without it being romantic

[@CommissionerManu]

3:44 one of the sweetest things about this one, and something a lot of people seem to miss... LOOK AT HOW LONG APART THEY PASSED AWAY! My heart ❤️😭 But sure, definitely something just friends would do, nothing like a couple AT ALL...

[@3L3CTR4H34RT]

5:50 Aros: *It's beautiful. I've looked at this for 5 hours now.*

[@Kaalokalawaia]

Me to my older brother: I'm pansexual My older brother: that's not a word Me: Yes it is My older brother: no it isn't Me: Copies google link sends in text My older brother: It must be a made up word Me: ...

[@hi-vt2wt]

Should've just said all words are made up lol

[@misamisaa4547]

Honestly there's not much difference. It's just "I'm attracted to more than one gender" vs "I'm attracted to all genders". That's not to say people who say they're bi only like two genders just because 'bi' means two & sometimes it's basically down to 'I like this term better' *shrugs*

[@AnneB2]

@@UmongusSussehFrusseh verilybitchie's video on Bisexual v Pansexual was the best explanation of the difference I've found, and explained a lot of things that confused me about both terms. The short of it is that "bisexual" is a term used as part of the LGBT umbrella that fought for the rights of those who had oppressed gender and sexuality expression. It represents liking two or more genders of any combination. Then a new system was made and popularized on the internet, called MOGAI, which created more specific identities to differentiate different gender, romantic and sexual experiences that would otherwise be lumped together under LGBTQ+. "Pansexual" was used to mean "attracted to people regardless of sex or gender identity". Some took this to mean that pansexuals are gender-blind whereas bisexuals can have different preferences depending on gender. Others use the two terms interchangeably. Ultimately "bisexual" is a broader term that has more history, and "pansexual" is a more specific term, but in the end it's up to the individual to choose which term they identify with the most.

[@John_Weiss]

Yep. In reality, _all_ words are "made up" … to describe concepts? Tell your older bro that just because he doesn't know the definition of a word doesn't mean it's not real. Tell him I said, "Learn to use a dictionary, ya fool!"

[@sophiejones7727]

@@UmongusSussehFrusseh I use the term “bisexual” (or sometimes “biromantic”) mostly to make it very clear that I’m not romantically attracted to ALL genders: just some. To the point where I actually guessed that someone I knew was agender because I wasn’t attracted to them even though they were my type. Obviously though: sexuality is more complicated than that. If you asked me “would you have sex with a person of any gender?” The answer would be yes. I just need to have a close relationship with that person, idgaf about their gender if it’s just sex. But to indicate that I’m NOT interested in hookups, I generally call myself demisexual or gray-ace rather than pansexual.

[@gray1177]

3:19 okay, comments like this one annoy me so god damn much, especially as a writer myself! Everyone is always advocating that we need more diversity but as soon as someone who is not gay (I know they’re bi and obviously part of the community but my point here is about this being said to anyone) wants to write about it, people complain. You don’t have to be LGBTQIA+ to write about it. You don’t have to be black or a PoC to write about it. And you don’t have to be disabled yourself to include a blind person in your story. The only thing you need, is to do your research and be educated on what you are writing about so you do the story and the people it’s representing justice! That’s it. We need more representation of minorities and we also need more diverse writers that are gay, bi, trans, black, deaf, and so on. Including your own experience and speaking from the heart obviously gives you an advantage and a unique inside look when you want to write about LGBTQIA+ issues and characters but it is definitely not something that qualifies you alone to write about it! Anyone can write about anything and if you do your research right there’s nothing wrong with that. (And imagine how boring most story’s were, if we would only write from person experience)

[@thevoiceinyourhead7215]

I wholeheartedly agree... kinda, I would still strongly recommend to have someone by your side while doing so, there's a phrase that could be healthy to remember "nothing about us without us" perhaps get 2 or so people to proof-read for you, ask different types of people about their personal experiences with their relationship dynamics, befriend and chat with people of other colors than your own and learn how their environment affects them in the past and present, ask a blind person how their day was so yes, 100% yes do write stuff that isn't just 100% you and your own (sometimes/formerly) small world, but do research on both fronts, online AND in the flesh if you have the slightest chance to do so also personal note, I happened to befriend a blind person a while ago because we were taking the same taxi service almost every day at the same times, so we usually shared the back-seats, turns out we were both writers, and even more impressively coincidentally I was in the process of writing a fantasy novel where the main character was blind(and no magic or supernatural senses to make up for it), while on the other hand, she, had been writing short novels where the main characters were almost never blind, in her own words, she found it boring to write blind characters, so we ended up exchanging questions and recorded audio-pages almost every day between each-other where we commented on said characters and exchanged ideas of slight alterations, like how she could put more emphasis on how visual stimuli can elicit emotion and how look-ism(bias connected to beauty and ugliness) can often interfere with people's judgement, and how I could put more emphasis on texture, how to properly use the tools a blind person frequents, and how it feels like to be in the open without them. the message here is that there could always be something you don't know, and you could misrepresent people without noticing, so *just asking* is one of the most powerful tools you can have as a writer in motion

[@rebe7354]

me and my boyfriend are both bi and when we tell ppl we're technically not a straight couple they all get confused it's funny

[@chancematters]

I love that Jaime puts AD in the corner during the ad part so I can skip it accurately

[@atreq]

Your disbelieving chuckling at around 8:20 made my day so much better :D :D :D :D :D

[@HicusaHyuga]

ugh after my mom forced me out of the closet, my gf and i had to pretend we were just friends in front of my family but they "love me no matter what" 🙄🙄

[@spookyles7483]

Yup, they always say that but when there's a opportunity to show it they do the opposite

[@missnaomi613]

I hope they learn to show it. Mama hugs here for whoever may need. ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜

[@DoxCube]

Jamie be like: I like my shirt and I hope you guys like it too. He's sp precious.

[@pommedeter7407]

Btw i'm happy because today in class we talked about an author who was lesbian and the teacher brought up the author's relationship and acknowledged that she was gay. TBH I kinda expected my teacher to say "ah yes friendship" but they didn't and that's cool

[@NettylSpryngs]

Was it Virginia Woolf?

[@pommedeter7407]

@Nettyl Spryngs No it wasn’t. I’m French so the literature i study is mostly French. I actually don’t know the author you mentioned so i’m gonna look it up :) the author my teacher spoke about is named Marguerite Cleenewerck de Crayencour but she is also called by the name marg Yourcenar because that’s the name she signed her book with ( it’s an anagram of her real name btw )

[@NettylSpryngs]

@@pommedeter7407 Cool! I'll look her up as well.

[@kbeemer7813]

That final sentence! "Have you seen roman pottery? It is very gay" Hilarious sentence and great delivery. Had me in stitches

[@heartyunho0716]

Listen, I'm Bi...I know I'm Bi, but I've also had conversations with female platonic friends about just being platonic life partners so we can stop looking for romantic life partners ALSO! Jessica is AGGRESSIVELY homosexual! (And we love her for it!)