Gaza War Day 415 Tankie Therapy: Predict what you want, the precondition is liberation

[@Jehntosh]

The intrusive thoughts is nonstop for me. I’m sitting in my car at a stoplight and I envision a drone decapitating me. I go to the grocery store and imagine a massacre happening. An hour never goes by without me thinking about the G’cide. The last thing at night, first thing in the morning on my mind is Gaza. The shame and frustration is tangible. I pray that we all keep performing self-care and resisting. This is a fight for humankind, we have to keep on confronting colonialism in every corner of the world. BDS

[@garrytait895]

I feel very blessed this global community exists. I was deeply troubled by the images especially of the injured children, particularly the little girls. I have young daughters. I have also lived in the so called 3rd world and have understood that people are all the same, apparently something our racist colonial culture ignores. It is like watching Jeffrey Dahmer on livestream to actually take in what is happening, and we will find out about far worse if and when justice is done. It is astounding, horrifying that people inside a concentration camp can livestream and speak live online, yet we can't help them. It is trauma compounded. What I have realized is that human suffering is infinite. The Palestinians have shamed us all by their endurance, their community, their humanity. Israelis or any other westerners in the same situation would be eating each other. Sinwar wrote that huge sacrifices would have to be made to restore justice and dignity, I subscribe to his logic. It is horrific, especially if we accept the true death tally of probably near 400,000 so far, but like the losses in Morocco or Algeria, Haiti, Nicaragua, this is what happens, the price good people have always paid to recover their dignity. It isn't a shame on us, it is the everlasting stain on our society and especially our leadership. Judges, police, any sort of functionary, they are all clearly morally reprehensible. This is a travesty not staining good people. We are bearing witness, processing the depravity, and hopefully making a dent in this monstrous system. Never again is finally coming home.

[@savithag7616]

Yes sometimes I feel why and how I can go on same seeing others go on enjoying life while knowing what happened or some Oblivious to what is happening in Gaza and other parts of the world. You are told well just take care of your kids why bother with these things. I can’t look at a slice of bread the same way ever again. When the first flour massacre happened. Now there has been too many.

[@HMNOURA]

@@Jehntosh ❤️🙏❤️

[@mousseva]

What does it feel like to sleep in a bed? To wake up and wash your face at a sink in front of a mirror? To open your closet and pick out what you want to wear from your nice, clean clothes? To make a cup of coffee with ease? To drink cold water? What does it feel like to turn the lights on and off, whenever you feel like it? Or to plug your phone in or take it out of the charger whenever you want? What about having internet all the time? What about the feeling of a home? Its atmosphere, its smell? What does it feel like to see yourself looking nice and beautiful in the mirror? What about laughing with your family at the dining table? Or being able to run to the store as soon you decide that you want to buy something? What about the feeling of closing your bedroom door to be alone because you’re depressed? Or to sit on a balcony or in a garden? What about watering the plants? What’s the feeling of doing dishes at the sink, with a lot of water and good-smelling soap? Oh yeah, and what does it feel like to have a washing machine? What does it feel like to have your own space? Or to pray by yourself, in a place of peace and solitude? Or to walk on beautiful roads? And what’s it like to go to work? To go to class? To study? To go to practice? To take exams? What does it feel like to hang out with friends? And to sit in your favorite place? What does it feel like to hear a catchy song in the car? Or to go to the sea because you miss it? My people, what does it feel like to miss someone and to go see them? Without long distances and lines of graves separating you? Or to see your family and friends everyday? Tell me again. A house. A home. What does it feel like? What does it feel like to go up and down the stairs? To move around, from room to room. To take a shower, in a shower stall, in a bathroom. I forgot! What does nice, clean water feel like? And soap and shampoo? And how, and how, and how… We have forgotten this all. Please remind us. x.com/Abdullah_Om3r03/status/1851666753195249970?t=dFWQvXvS3Tx2fXQ0sYNNDQ&s=19

[@maryioannucci9874]

It feels like ash in the mouth, it amplifies our shame, it feels like a privilege we do not deserve and that brings no joy. I am sorry we have failed you with our inability to change anything, to help anything , to save anyone, to protect you.

[@kathyd1970]

♥💔

[@Sam-ne9ns]

We are not physical bodies. We are spiritual beings experiencing bodies. Freedom, dignity, and purpose are way more important to us than a bunch of materials.

[@Nobody-zv5lp]

We feel shame, we feel helpless.

[@purpshiso]

If this series of questions is rhetorical, your message landed with me. if the questions are not rhetorical and you want an answer.... it feels amazing and fills me with gratitude. everything i enjoy, i imagine our relatives in Gaza enjoying it thru me. There isn't a thing I do that I dont imagine them doing and deserving access to. Today i was feeding my cat's and i thought, people in Gaza would probably eat this.

[@blanchetv]

Everyone on this panel has a heart of gold… but I must say the first five minutes with Justin had me bawling my brains out. For me it is the echo of Abu Baker saying “please give me your worst day- I will take it any day of the week” 🥺 😢

[@elizabethgray7990]

Oof yes to this! Abu Baker gets me everytime. When he talked about people looking at photos of food as a way to satisfy their hunger! 😭💔😭🇵🇸🔻🇵🇸

[@DrumguyCiv]

We all feel the shame of not being able to do anything Justin. Hang in there, we’ll all get through this together.

[@CIndy_The_Skull]

When I look around me the ones doing material things are ironically, the anarchists!

[@DrumguyCiv]

@ it certainly isn’t our western governments, that’s for sure.

[@Officiallyamber-rose]

Yes, the shame is absolutely overwhelming. Every drop of water, every bite of food, every warm blanket

[@taranehahmadi-parker1412]

Yes , exactly 😢

[@mutawi3i]

So sad guys, God bless

[@seang2700]

Shame belongs to perpetrators. Not witnesses.

[@laurasantillan2192]

I watched the film "Israelism" when one of the directors, Arin Axelman, came to Mexico to promote the film. At the end there was a Q&A session, and I asked him precisely why they don't mention Zionism in any part through out the film, because I considered that Zionism is what endangers Jews all around the world. The answer was a complete evasion of the topic.

[@Salaampotato]

To see Justin tear up, over the exact feelings of shame I've been feeling for 13 months but haven't been able to put into words until watching this...your channel is my favorite channel by far. This was more therapeutic than my actual therapy sessions. To say thank you doesn't even begin to capture my gratitude for you all and for you Justin in creating this space and sharing it with us. I now repeat to myself, "hang in there" and I will say the same to anyone reading this and watching this video alongside me.

[@abrielferreira]

Welp first 5 minutes and i have the urge to a) make earings like Lara's and b) cry uncontrollably after seeing Justin crying about feeling shame. It might be parasocial but i just feel like i know you guys, and i just feel this so hard. ❤

[@NoaHdP78]

X2

[@Christy-et8ib]

I feel the same thanks for sharing this

[@theresabarzee1463]

We can still feel. Shame is good bc we 're alive, but feeling sickened. Bc we are sick by association in a human way. Wow. Mikey, I did not even connect red triangles. Amazing. Parachute hang gliders are my resistance symbols. White kites too. Of course...

[@monicamitrachaudhuri7398]

I need those earrings

[@reimei2819]

There are powers in the world that is not evil. The most liberating statement I heard today. Thank you all!

[@kathyd1970]

That was absolutely amazing! Thank you all so much!!

[@maryioannucci9874]

I embrace my shame, it powers my resistance and forces me to activism.

[@Naushad1210]

This makes me think of a moment early on, when the horrible images of gore and hunger first started coming out. I remember putting a blackberry in my mouth, firm, sweet, cold, straight from the fridge. It was honestly the best blackberry I've ever tasted. And I just broke down crying. I bit down and felt the juice burst out and felt such pleasure, and the very next thought was "Why do I get to eat fruit?" The deep injustice of it hit me all at once. Now, I just try to be grateful every day. My test might be easier than theirs, but I'm still being tested. They will be asked what they did in spite of the hardship of their situation. And I will be asked what I am doing with my peace and ease. So I don't reject the fruit I've been given. I take it and I thank God, and I try to use the energy from eating to do something helpful. Everyone on this panel is genuinely doing something helpful.

[@leelajames4063]

Comrades

[@1May1312]

I'm glad Lara kept bringing up Fanon. More therapists need to channel his work and examine the impact of colonialism (as well as other power structures) on mental health. Also, you're not the only one feeling shame. From what I'm seeing in the comments, you're in good company. Speaking for myself, I feel ashamed when I sit down to a meal because most people in Gaza haven't eaten in days.

[@kylezo]

i feel shame...but these people are giants of the movement to me personally. to hear them speak of shame is the same to me as to hear Justin's story about reacting to someone from north gaza feeling shame for being a victim. this is what the mass gaslighting we're subjected to is doing to us - causing us to feel shame simply for operating with a bent towards justice and morality. we have to remember that this was involuntarily forced on us, and it shouldn't be our responsibility to liberate, but it is. we are supposed to be able to just live our lives, and that has been taken from us.

[@sarahweaver8879]

When Nora talked about the need for regrouping your mind and it being ok... I always think about the idea of when you're on an airplane and their explaining the masks. And how important it is to put your mask on first and THEN attend to your child or whomever...the point there is that you MUST take care of yourself in order to take care of others. The people who are helpless will always stay helpless if you are unable to be effective as a person who CAN help. ❤💔❤💔

[@Christy-et8ib]

Thank you all so much for this conversation. You help me feel like a real person in a way nobody else can anymore. So few people in my personal life are impacted by this genocide and without people like all of you I would feel like a ghost. Long live the resistance 🇵🇸

[@theresabarzee1463]

Perfectly put. Ghost people. Gray sleepwalkers, incommunicado...

[@andreastokes9413]

There are lots of us feeling this way - I’m here in this place too.

[@Anon22251]

Fellow ghost❤

[@Raks78]

The cognitive dissonance is what’s destroying my brain . And more than my own life , since its altered forever, even the things I do aren’t the same anymore. it’s when I look around and all my coworkers are talking about is concerts, parties, Xmas , and I can barely breathe the same air as them and have to walk away .

[@Buf-g6m]

A status quo that creates massive cognitive dissonance is always doomed to failure..

[@birdsong63]

Oh, you said it so well. It's always there, in my mind. It's the first thing I think about when I rise, and the last thing I think about at bed time. I'm 80, retired, and unable to work. I live in the Mid-Hudson Valley of NY. I don't have to go "out there" much, and when I do, I'm in a bubble of my own. I wonder "will something happen to me if I wear one of my keffiyehs?" so I don't wear them. But I will because I am free and though some Zionist or crazy person may take offense it's nothing significant in the overall picture. So glad to be here.

[@Raks78]

@ hope you stay safe , but yeah , wear your keffiyah ✌️

[@CW-xf1li]

Yes. I literally can't entertain this 'false reality' anymore. What scares me most these days, is it continuing. Morbid, I know, but so is ignoring this. It's comforting to know we're not alone in these reactions.

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

Because they use Accusations in a Mirror, or blame the victim No such thing as Coincidence, the sooner you understand this the sooner you'll realise there is nothing new under the Sun Deny, deflect; lie Bolshevik, bull, civic-minded, demagogue), someone who gains political power by appealing to people's emotion's instincts, & prejudices in a way that is considered manipulative & myopic; someone who incessantly reiterates the same petty complaints, until they are taken seriously. There are citizens with valid complaints & issues, but invariably the meeting will have to deal with some Bullshivic & his personal gripe of "supreme importance". Blame the Victim Protocol 24 Also known as Incitement to Hatespeech and a Warcrime subject to hanging per the Nuremberg Tribunal ⌛

[@naymatunc-rc6vs]

Dear Nora and Justin you are very beautiful and courageous because you have the concience and humanity to shame love and respect from Netherland

[@yournamehere4790]

Very good episode. There are no other channels/podcasts that are discussing these incredibly important topics. At least that I know of. As a Native American it illuminates the very real generational trauma that we carry. We too are not allowed to grieve the destruction of our people. We aren’t allowed to call what happened/is happening to us as a genocide either. The parallels between my people and the Palestinian people are uncanny. So, it’s a godsend to have this channel and to hear your thoughts. It’s retraumatization but it’s also an opportunity for me to heal our previous generation’s trauma. It’s an opportunity to halt the spiritual destruction we’ve experienced.

[@theresabarzee1463]

Giant thanks. Yes.

[@savithag7616]

Palestinian struggle has put all other native struggles to the forefront too. We are living through changing times.

[@cedricpicard9016]

It sounds so repetitive, but today especially, it resonates for me that I needed this therapy. Being based in Germany, where protesting has been so curtailed and marginalized, that hardly anyone comes out at the protests, it feels so alienating, and enraging, but even though I remind myself that it´s the goal, it feels so shameful that we as a society refuse to fight. Especially thinking the historical past in germany, that people should identify totalitarianism when it hits them in the face, but as Sina pointed out, people are too afraid to lose their western comfort, to lose their job, ... Thanks guys.

[@fionnualascullion2604]

THOSE EARRINGS 🔻🔻 I feel like you're voicing my thoughts. Thank you ❤️‍🔥

[@louaymasri7873]

Shame and hatred are the emotions im battling. I dont want to succumb to either emotion but it is a constant battle with the demons

[@missmissy2490]

Same for me.

[@hnnssy]

Thank you for this episode. I relate to so much. I have never felt more alone and helpless in this past year. I rely on your collective work to provide the chronicle of the horrors of Gaza. I will never be the same. My relationships with others will never be the same.

[@Yogafran]

Are we allowed to mention Lara's low key resistance earrings? 🔻🔻👀❤

[@Buf-g6m]

Probably Yt's fault; EDIT Misread earrings for earnings lol.

[@sentientcharcoal6450]

Mikey did, in the session! 🔻🔻

[@JillT123]

Needed this. Oct 2023 I described what I felt as guilt. Or I could call it shame. Justin, what you do every day is immense. I have learned so much and taken a lot of solace and inspiration from you. Thank you all 🙏🏼. Freedom and Justice for Palestine, Lebanon, the Levant. Free us all from the genocidal Empire.

[@lecqz]

At this point, I am running out of words that adequately explain what I am feeling about Israel's depraved campaign of terror - made even worse by the constant and infuriating gaslighting we get from much of the MSM and our western 'leaders'. But, at the same time, I'm fully aware of how irrelevant 'what I feel' is when it comes to the monumental scale of the catastrophic horror that continues to unfold. But I will say again that when I tune in to your streams (and those of the The Electronic Intifada), you manage to articulate my sense of despair and frustration - and yes, the overarching and soul-destroying sense of shame - at my inability to change anything. I somehow find myself taking refuge in that sense of not being the only one who feels this way, so thank you very much for the therapy. And please don't stop doing what you do! 🙏❤🔻🕊

[@Raks78]

Hi guys . God bless you all . These sessions keep me sane too. I’m a Muslim so I don’t know where I fall in the tankie/ anarchist group etc , but at this point , I’m ready to be anything that will get 🇮🇱 out of 🇵🇸. And I agree Justin, they have nothing to be ashamed of , shame is all ours 😭😭

[@mohsinsuliman2096]

Greetings,there will be a Judgement Day ,for Israel and Netanyahu, do have a price to pay.Dont forget that George Bush ,you think ,even if he does ,will not pay a price.God is watching, taking notes.This life,is way too short,for justice and the scales to be balanced.

[@Legaleyespeace]

Muslims should vote libertarian for personal freedoms and against war and fiat money

[@Raks78]

@ Ameen

[@shadetreader]

I always want to offer Justin a tankie hug 💗

[@shadetreader]

And the chronic illness analogy is very apt 💔

[@artillujas]

im getting so much therapy this weekend i might actually fix my relationship with my dad

[@Buf-g6m]

Lol

[@khubza8999]

LOL!

[@Buf-g6m]

The same response twice in a row!! I wonder what that say's about the subconscious..

[@greghenricks8516]

Thank you all you beautiful people. Such an important discussion! I can continue now. 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

[@Donetravlin]

We are faced with carrying humanities burden of extra shame because the perpetrators have none, hence why this is a crime against humanity.

[@Donetravlin]

Search for a speech by Nan Goldin in Berlin, an American photographer, its wonderful;)

[@phoenixazulhtx]

Thank you all ❤❤❤

[@carolcoutinho8777]

It's sort of like survivors guilt. Eating. Sleeping in a safe, warm place. Laughing. ...it's always there. 13:29

[@Legaleyespeace]

100% and the societal complicity

[@_spacegirl]

thank y’all for this ❤🙏🏽 “we invite you to protect us,” will haunt me for the rest of my days. liberation Is the precondition 🔻

[@YaBoiHakim]

You guys are invaluable

[@exloopy]

Thank you all for your vulnerability and courage. This was a powerful discussion, resonating for me with the ways that the ruling culture abuses and then manages our outlook on the world. The bit Lara mentioned about how power first asserts control of our affect really spoke to me. We're warned to 'be realistic' when we would rather resist. As the world gets more brutal, i am increasingly suspicious of despair, of hopelessness, since it seems like a waste, an exercise in narcissistic powerlessness. You all inspire me by the way you fight fascism, with a kind of pragmatic stubbornness, a commitment to empathy, a willingness to ask difficult questions, and humility throughout.

[@Raks78]

One of my friends told me that second hand trauma is difficult to handle , and I think about that a lot given how I feel . I’m pretty sure that all the people who are awake and involved are depressed 😔 but like Sina said , it doesn’t matter . It just magnifies for me how much worse the Palestinians are feeling 😭😭😭😭

[@robertomonroe6338]

A marvelous and important conversation. Thanks to all.

[@laurasantillan2192]

I'm glad to see you again! This group therapy is so important for many of us: we realized that we're not alone in our feelings. As Nora said, mothers and fathers feel shame because we know that this world is not what we wanted for our children. What will we answer when our children grow up and ask us about all the children killed in Gaza? What will we say when they ask what we did to stop this genocide? I feel not only shame, but also guilt. 💔

[@anandasouthard7760]

These really help me process what is happening in a way I didn’t think possible. Thank you all so much for doing these sessions. It’s hard to overstate how valuable these discussions have been to so many of us ❤

[@khubza8999]

Curiosity got the better of me ... I was NOT going to listen to this because I spied the therapist, Lara Sheehi, and thought, "This is going to be heavy." Also, I had just come out of Sina's tankie therapy... but I surerndered to the interruption, and I am glad that I did. Thank you for the space to process the shame, the survivor's/voyeur's guilt; the intrusive images of power and oppression and the attempt to rob the Palestinians, Lebanese, all of us of our human dignity. The people SURVIVING in Gaza, you all holding the line here, everyone online REFUSING business as usual convince me every day that we cannot , indeed, do not have the luxury of giving up or surrendering, as if "there were no alternative." Nothing is inevitable. I accept revolutionary refusal, but I also think we should start IMAGINING that abstract "liberation" we keep talking about...because "liberation" might come more suddenly and shockingly than we think. The day when the puny wizard emerges from the big robotic power contraption in which it hides may well be nigh....closer than we think.We need to be ready with imaginative four-dimensional power.

[@ColeSakata]

Thank you again. No matter what the western neoliberal monoculture tells you, the future is not dead, it has not been decided yet, and we can shape it.

[@elizabethcenturionguerra6511]

Thank you so much, this was utterly helpful. I think we all share the shame, the rage and the frustration. I cannot stand that deep complicit silence you get when you share news about Gaza. I feel it is a duty to make these uncomfortable reminders once in a while. The PRECONDITION is total LIBERATION, that's my take.

[@donnaeve3939]

O Justin hugs from afar I too feel so much shame 😢

[@OpheliaPG]

❤ I needed this today. Love you guys! ❤🥹😢

[@shola1213]

We are one day closer to liberation and liberation IS the precondition. Total liberation.

[@p0ot]

I feel guilty whenever I enjoy myself and don't know how to square that. I also relate to the shame part, though I'm still wrestling with how impotence and outrage go together as well. Thanks for this video, there was some real wisdom here that helped me and mine.

[@Buf-g6m]

How to square the circles, that's what it invariably, always comes back to, stay strong kind internet stranger.

[@khubza8999]

Me, too. This week all I could think about was Dr. Adnan Al-Bursh who apparently died rap€d to death in Ofer prison because he refused to abandon the people in North Gaza. And me here in the US planning for a holiday gathering with American liberals who think the biggest tragedy in the world now is Trump’s win.

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

Call for Democracy by Referenda: 70 / 30 split, by Occupation of the Capitals or Mascot Candidates, and March every Oct 14 under a 🏳️

[@Buf-g6m]

@@khubza8999 maddening.

[@ledmonlin]

Thank you all, your work and humanity means so much to all of us. ❤🇵🇸🇱🇧♥️

[@VictorCremer-ef8cl]

"Shame is a revolutionary feeling". (Karl Marx, letter to Ruge, 1843)

[@justinpodur]

i did NOT know this!

[@norabarrows-friedman9751]

@@justinpodur omg me neither, this is incredible

[@mrp9165]

The discussion was therapy for me also and I'm a viewer. Related to so much that was being said.

[@andreastokes9413]

DAMN, this one was excellent. Thank you all so much.

[@rainlewis1822]

Im with Nora, I use anti-depressants (and at maximum legal dose) to maintain functionality too.. for several years now, but I am now in my 60s, and disengaged from much of the day-to-day world. And long past feeling shame or guilt etc over needing the chemicals, as needing something to dim impulsive, useless, self-destructive reactions of rage, despair etc can only be a positive. And can still laugh ... My last New Year resolution, is to have at least one good laugh a day, whether its in relating to a child, my dogs, my cat, a rare comedy movie, spring blooms in a garden ...

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

Ear buds and a good music list is a must, I prefer bootleg remixes and glitch synth, it breaks up the thought patterns and resets the brain on an even keel Music can save your mortal soul

[@annikamyren3026]

Hello from Sweden ❤🇸🇪 Leaving a 👍 and a comment for the algoritmethingy !

[@noname-hb8vk]

Thank you soooo much!🙏🌿💝🌿🙏 👊

[@deaftears]

I been on how to configure stuff when you come loose, because Bisan came loose and it was a real crash. She said very simply, beaten by incomprehension, “this is something new.” And it was a lifeline for me. I could almost make sense of things again.

[@Antrunu]

Since this madness started, I feel holistically connected to people with conscience and empathy, like you guys 💫♥️ I think that, and especially in dark times like the ones we are going through, we must take care of ourselves and those we love... We must prepare ourselves mentally and physically to be able to give our 💯 because they are already giving it ♥️🇵🇸🇱🇧♥️

[@ewee4735]

Thank you all so much ❤🇵🇸🔻

[@kray97]

15:13 Nora's humanity comes through with her reflection of why we feel so traumatized by the violence and illusion of safety.

[@TomT-bo1yr]

I don't know you guys personally, nor do you know me, but we are all on the same wavelength here. Thank you internet 🛜.Sharing solidarity and love to you all. May those who are suffering see better days ✌🏻🕊️ ❤️🍉🌲

[@Raks78]

Hi Lara , thanks a lot for adding your terms to how we feel and love your earrings 🔻🔻

[@22many77]

"commodified despair" - I'll think about that term for a while.

[@andrewkujan1457]

Great work as always.

[@missmissy2490]

Just finished watching Sina’s group episode. I said over there and I’ll say it again…I love you all very much. We all feel the same emotions in one way or another. But there’s one thing that is completely different. You all have shared your years of dedicated work, expertise, experiences, and tremendous personal effort with us! Your work has changed my life and, I’m sure, many others here. I’m sending hugs of support to all in this episode and in the comments. We are all Palestinian 🇵🇸

[@under-en6lo]

Damn bro. You said shame and that shit hit me. For real. I feel it. And I'm doing A LOT less than you are.

[@ayantuinthenow]

Ugh I love the analysis of Israelism. The shrouding of liberal Zionism in a facade of anti-Zionism, particularly at this moment, is so gross and self-congratulatory. It’s so interesting that people who fancy themselves as anti-Zionist while firmly rooted in Zionist, settler colonial, supremacist ideology always want to “end the violence,” and “coexist.” What they’re really saying is, they want peace and comfort for themselves. In other words, they want peace but definitely not justice. And to that I say, fuck your peace, we demand nothing less than justice complete with reparations.

[@khubza8999]

Agree 100 percent with you

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

Most Ashken don't support Ziombism (80%+ in the US) but over 1/3 of the US Senate are Romanian Catholicisms, like Piers, Boris, Cameron, Blair, Brown, Farage, Robinson, Saville, Wilders, Icke, Tate, Woods, Crowder, Walsh, and Tucker, Biden, Trump, Kamala, Vance, Pelosi, Guiliani, Barr, Bannon, Leo, Prince, Cotton, Stone, Flynn, Pompeo, Bolton, Pence, Maddow, Ingram, Kelly, Conway, Cooper, Spicer, Hannity, Hayes, Cuomo, Tapper, Ventura, Kilmeade, Watters, Deucey, Abbot, Thiel, Gates, Gaetz, Branson, Bezos, Fetterman, AOC, Trudeau, Macron, Bolsanaro, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin, Lenin, Trotsky, Tito, Rotchild, Mercer, Murdoch, Leo, Alito, Gore, Bush, 7/9 members of the Supremacist Court, etc... The Hidden Hand is Romanian Catholicisms They use Accusations in a Mirror 🪞 or 'Blame the Victim' Which is a Capital offence as Incitement per the Nuremberg Tribunal, all assets can be seized, and sentence passed with extreme prejudice anywhere in the UN Member nations per the Geneva Convention So what are you all waiting for We are fighting Nazis, and it's the Law to take them down 👇 You can't have Democracy under Capitalism. Call for Democracy by Referenda: 70 / 30 split, by Occupation of the Capitals or Mascot Candidates, and March every Oct 14 under a 🏳️ There is no legal basis for a Supremacist Ethnostate It's just called 'being a Terrorist' Calling Muslims Terrorists is a Blood Libel, and subject to Antisemitism laws as Incitement to violence based on religious identity We are at War for the future of Humanity itself It is _our collective duty_ to uphold the *LAW*

[@garrytait895]

Yeah, how dare they, while squatting in stolen houses, parking on secret mass graves, or living a fat life on stolen farmland next to a concentration camp while millions of rightful owners were starved terrorized and mutilated? What were they explaining to the grandchildren when the early morning roar of the concentration camp rose? Eternal shame on them.

[@theresabarzee1463]

Yes, dear Justin. I could not quit vomitting or sleeping the whole week before the ICC warrants finally came. Ashamed of my country, ashamed for not being able to get food in, to stop this, to talk to deaf/dumb/blind relatives w/o overwhelming fury. Shame & helplessness.

[@RobinHerzig]

Oh yay Tankie Therapy ♥️ my favorite

[@grandormevolunteers2642]

I agree with Nora: the joy of the haka was so infectious. Glee in overturning colonial respectability, centering Indigenous language and tradition back on the land where they belong - it was beautiful. From what I can see all of you have gone above and beyond to document, contextualize, analyze, and report on the horrors inflicted on the Palestinian and Lebanese (and Syrian and...and...and..) people by Western powers. I think we can all agree that ours is a collective struggle, and you are doing your part. All feelings are valid, but I suppose I might - politically - resist taking on the shame of those in my society who have abdicated responsibility, who have the power to effect change and are choosing not to. I wonder if part of the burden of shame some of us feel is related to growing up with fairy tales, so we believe we (as part of some illusory progressive democratic society) should have the power to create change. We do what we are supposed to do for that change to happen, and when it doesn't, we internalize the blame. When in fact, the fairy tales of international law and human rights and democracy are today's colonial opiate, a smokescreen to hide constant extreme violence enriching the few in our societies while the rest of us scrabble to save modest retirements. Shame belongs to the many institutions obligated to stop genocide that are failing to do so. This all links to what I've been thinking about re: parenthood. I'm the lucky parent of a neurodivergent child with high sensitivity and clear thinking. I decided early on it was better to tell kiddo the truth. The world is not always very nice or fair. Right now is a bad time, but we'll get through it. Some people can be extremely cruel, but others are awesome. I don't know what the right thing is to do as a parent and like most of us wing it a lot. With my particular child, my intuition is that pretending horrors aren't happening could actually be worse and a form of gaslighting. I've gone for brief, matter of fact explanations with an eye to what kiddo is curious about and can handle. I'm often floored at the comprehension in the responses that come back at me. My child is not going to have the peaceful, optimistic upbringing I did, but also already has a far more sophisticated understanding of the world than I did at that age. I trust that the next generation is going to be able to handle things - they are stronger than we know. And the work and struggle that we're involved in are the building blocks for them, just as we have benefited from previous struggles. It all matters.

[@NaderNabilart]

Loved every word of you comment. Thank you for this! I've decided to do the same, never lie or pretend that that the world is better than what it actually is. It's really a valuable lesson.

[@hg5054]

Thank you. Much needed conversation. 🙏🏽Power to the Resistance! Free Palestine! ✊🏽🇵🇸 🇱🇧 🇵🇸 🇱🇧

[@sovietcupcakes328]

It's so refreshing to see Justin's kitchen again! It's a nice change of background.

[@angela4696]

Excellent session. Thank you all so much.

[@theresabarzee1463]

"Militant clarity! " Yes! Lara, thank you. Taking time to track the feelings & knowledge held in the body. All that makes us maybe schizophrenic-lookng to others who do not know what we do know, do follow, do understand. Even as our humanity as mortal psychic wounds are forced onto people we are aware of! Life-sustaining registering of this pain... Good help. Devastating acknowledgments, to share, cooperate to ...? Get Food Trucks In! Now! How!? Hurry, Act. Time's up. Food Trucks in Now.

[@NicoleArata.artworks]

If it’s any help at all, Justin I’m so lucky thankful for your coverage, there’s nothing else like it in the world, but I also know we all feel exactly as you do. Thank you for sharing, I can’t express how much this group means to me.

[@ianmahler2516]

I discovered this channel through EI and have been consistently watching all your updates ever since the start of the war. In that past year your work has enlightened me, informed me, and helped me process and recontextualise my own thoughts and feelings on the horrors of this still-unfolding genocide. What can I say but thank you all. I could not ask for better comrades, political advocates, and educators. P.S. Somebody give my boy Justin a hug 3:45 I truly felt that.

[@axShinsei]

Vast vast vast appreciation and solidarity for this, all of this, all of you.

[@Phoenicianwine]

Thank you folks, Nora I appreciate your thoughts, something so insignificant as a plastic bag has now become a symbol of a genocide!

[@timcurtis8852]

Great episode. You all went really deep

[@desmondmccabe8321]

it probably sounds very naive but when i listen to this inspiring truth-telling and analysis i also think of how the fighters cope with the enormity of what they are going through - their feeling of doing the impossible every day - it is through prayer and faith. It may be that they suffer less despair (I'm leaving out the positive feeling of direct response) than we do. Does it make any sense for secular thinkers to assimilate this reality - it seems to me that it might not be feasible for resistance fighters (or anyone) to deal with such evil except with the aid of religious faith. It is usually understood that when a person is engaged in meditation or contemplative prayer that all of the world is meditating or praying (deep inside themselves) along with that person. I think something like this happens in the case of sincere truth-telling and ethical thought and witness.

[@MegOnWheels]

Thank you. ❤

[@mickeyoshea2035]

As a Black anarchist who loves the sitreps, Lara's first words were precisely my thoughts.

[@lavendeer6290]

Everyone has their role, keep up the good work and keep an ear open to life in hopes you're shown more you can do❤

[@michelerousseau.]

🌹💕

[@CommunistConsensus]

The self gas-light that tells us to feel shame when we are powerless or not the responsible party is the gas-light of the hostage taker "saying; don't make me hurt this hostage." Accepting the concept is accepting bad code. Powerlessness is not where shame belongs. Shame belongs with the misuse of power and not about powerlessness at all. We cannot avoid or cope with the feelings of powerlessness by transmuting into something else.

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

Call for Democracy by Referenda: 70 / 30 split, by Occupation of the Capitals or Mascot Candidates, and March every Oct 14 under a 🏳️

[@jazziejim]

These times demand that we really grow up. We must leave our childish expectations behind and be tough revolutionaries. We are forced to see the evil and we must be big enough to fight it by spreading the good. We have the life force and good on our side. What action is most effective? Maybe less talking to ourselves and more talking, speaking to others at city and county meetings or other civic organization meetings, unions, etc. along with more efforts to increase our numbers so when we call to demonstrate we have big numbers, and we can politically replace the murderers. Build political power. On Strike out of Seattle has got the right attitude and strategy.

[@hiera1917]

the dialectics are strong in this one. thank you all

[@JeanineH]

OMG IM SO HAPPY TO HEAR HIM say THERE WILL BE MUSEUMS!!!! I HAVE SAID THIS a hundred times! Lists of names and ages, we must never ever let the entire world forget what they have done. ! And there should be one in each colonial country which helped Israelis, Including Canada my own! My daughter is studying museum architecture etc- & I want her to be the first once she’s finished school or continues through it to CURATE CREATE DOCUMENT & save GATHER EVERYTHING she can to be one of the first in our nations PATHETIC CAPITAL, Ottawa, where tredau sits with nothing but blood on his hands!! SO HE WIL NEVER FKRGET! This is HUGE AND IT WILL BE !!!! And I am so ashamed to be Polish right now when you should see what they’re doing to Refugees/Migrants trying to get into their borders. So ashamed…. Esp. when way back great-grandparents we ran from nazis my great grandfather himself & other Germans & even other polish ppl to CANADA … :( & the fight they had to HELP THE Jews & hide them, or die, & now they’re just a country I don’t recognize. So ashamed

[@tiagosilva729]

I feel the same as Justin too often. I feel ashamed of not doing enough to end this horror and of getting on with my life while these horrors are happening...

[@Buf-g6m]

When one contemplates a state of apartheid, the word defunct comes to mind.

[@PhilipSanchez-n5q]

Thank you for discussing the film Isrealism I recently saw this and was left with an uneasy feeling after which now makes sense to me after this discussion. The source of the cause of this resistance needs to be more at the forefront of our movement, we need to embrace being vocal beyond a ceasefire appeal. Thank you

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

Right wing media leans hard into to this same model by proposing that they opposed the bankers and the globalists, the Deep State, so each side of the Pyramid ultimately meets in the middle It's known as nudging and it was banned in advertising, basically all their tricks come from Cults, like Scientology, where they go to get their media training to use Accusations in a Mirror 🪞 They will tell you what you want to hear, because for most people that's enough They're all all Romanian Catholicisms, there really is nothing new under the Sun

[@Hanklerfishies]

thankful for tankie therapy!

[@TraduzindoPalestina]

you guys make me cry every single time…i tend to get very pessimistic when i don’t see things getting better, and then i remember someone saying once that revolution and liberation are years, maybe decades processes. … i was in Vietnam two weeks ago. and i visited some places that were completely destroyed during the american invasion. they’d rebuilt. they are thriving. and so will Gaza.

[@segufta]

This was very grounding in a period where there is so much pain and grief. Thank you for this ! I'll be coming back to it often

[@MarneeMadsen]

Along these lines of anesthesia and tending to reality... Justin said something a few months ago about the poly crises and how Palestine is more important than climate change. And yes... And they are not separable and with the acceleration - in no small part because of these wars and ecocide (and even how Palestinians olive trees sunbirds are the antithesis)... We, all complex living organisms are rapidly headed to mass extirpation and extinction. Facing that and still fighting for liberation and all the other species on this planet that we are taking out with us is a real mind fuck. I appreciate this group so much that who can actually hold all these things and continue to act with integrity and Palestinians who are living it with such courage and grace

[@RKFOOL611]

Everyone needs to go and listen to the guy(Israeli guy I cannot remember his name) Elik Harpaz is his name, sing the song “why do I feel so lonely inside” live on the “bad hasbara” podcast. That song sung the way he sings it live in that moment was one of the most powerful things I’ve experienced and so utterly perfectly captures the moment

[@J.Radwan]

Wow! thank you from the bottom of my heart for this incredibly uplifting and enlightening conversation.

[@TWOFS_1]

Thank you for this continued program. It really helps a lot. In terms of predictability of future events and conditions and inevitabilities, this resonates with a thought I've had for a long time, and that is that I do not want people, even those on the real left, to keep continuing to say, "It's going to get worse before it gets better." That too is a prediction, and it's one I've been hearing for a least a decade. At what point do we stop saying that? Where is the "better" in this thought configuration? How will we ever reach the "better" if we continue to assert this negative, pessimistic prediction? Aren't we just kicking the better can down the road? What would happen if we stopped asserting this prediction? It feels deeply pessimistic to me and does, I believe, feed into the mental intrusiveness that is part of the colonizers' plan.

[@justinpodur]

i love this

[@TWOFS_1]

@@justinpodur thank you, Justin. I am one of those eternal effing optimists, which really baffles neo-liberals, which fills me with pride. LOL

[@ilct1312]

I laughed at Nora's description of gerry brownlee as a jabba-the-hut-coloniser! The beloved Hana-Räwhiti Maipi-Clarke, our young māori mp, represents a future for us in Aotearoa that exists beyond the stale western settler colony that it is new zealand.. Thank you all for sharing. 🖤 "back to the precondition, it's total liberation”

[@davidbrad65]

Can you overdose on tankie therapy? Well, today is the day to find out