Andrew Pierce joins Nigel Farage for Talking Pints

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2 жыл бұрын

'This is the least conservative Tory Party leadership I have ever written about.'
'I don't see a woman of colour, I see an intensely irritating American, third-rate actress doing everything she can to wreck the Royal Family.'
Andrew Pierce and Nigel Farage discuss the current state of the Tory Party, Boris Johnson's commitment to conservatism and being called racist for not liking Meghan Markle.
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@lindalouie1565
@lindalouie1565 2 жыл бұрын
Wish this could of gone on longer, great debate.
@alanfenton512
@alanfenton512 2 жыл бұрын
Fully Agree. Mr Farage is a very talented interviewer; who treats his quests with respect, humour and actually listens to what they say. Watch and weep mainstream media "luvvies". I only wish GB News would extend this segment of his show to c. 30 minutes.
@wendywolfman
@wendywolfman 2 жыл бұрын
*could have
@ThePierre58
@ThePierre58 2 жыл бұрын
I wish TP was more 'adaptable ' not for the first time I could have handled 30 minutes of Andrew Pierce. TP needs a Premier League set up where you can extra time.
@heliotropezzz333
@heliotropezzz333 2 жыл бұрын
@@alanfenton512 Notice that in his political career he's never reticent in expressing his views about what's wrong with things but never really sticks his neck out by saying what solutions he'd propose.
@chrisstones1249
@chrisstones1249 2 жыл бұрын
A great debate ,what planet are you from . good lord.frightening🤮🚽
@carlobalzer3238
@carlobalzer3238 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Nigel like Andrew 👍 👌 👏 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@mariellatempleton2727
@mariellatempleton2727 2 жыл бұрын
Oh! How I love Andrew Pierce - intelligent and measured, enthusiastic and a true (C)conservative! Always look forward to what he has to say. Thankyou Nigel. And yes, bring in Lord Frost!
@allanchalmers9778
@allanchalmers9778 2 жыл бұрын
You missed out gay!
@Arcadia639
@Arcadia639 2 жыл бұрын
@@allanchalmers9778 irrelevant
@hongfeizhao5709
@hongfeizhao5709 2 жыл бұрын
Andrew, you are sharp, you speak straight forward. Good man👍
@jenniferbate9682
@jenniferbate9682 2 жыл бұрын
I always love listening to Andrew’s show on LBC. He should join GB news.
@VincentRE79
@VincentRE79 2 жыл бұрын
Agree very good show on LBC.
@sonofednawelthorpe8609
@sonofednawelthorpe8609 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree he’s very articulate and his views mirror my own and I dare say the vast majority. We have a lot in common - both Andrews, same age group, both from poor working class backgrounds , well off through hard graft, first voted Tory in 1979, both v right of centre and openly gay. Nothing comes to mind that I’ve disagreed with him on.
@VincentRE79
@VincentRE79 2 жыл бұрын
@@sonofednawelthorpe8609 Agree, but he can be very rude sometimes to people who call in.
@haydenb2
@haydenb2 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully he will. Clear the space on LBC which has a great audience for a better broadcaster and send him to GB news to be forgotten about.
@VincentRE79
@VincentRE79 2 жыл бұрын
@@haydenb2 GB News is like a pre-retirement home for Centre Right journalists, even Anne Diamond is on there now.
@flashtheoriginal
@flashtheoriginal 2 жыл бұрын
What an engaging interview style. Talented chap, Nigel.
@christinelivesey4708
@christinelivesey4708 2 жыл бұрын
What a fabulous description of John Major, the ultimate 'grey' man.
@johnwilson9688
@johnwilson9688 2 жыл бұрын
Cracking interview/debate. Nigel farage should have been given a knighthood...!!!
@oliverkitkat6860
@oliverkitkat6860 2 жыл бұрын
Andrew is a very nice thruthfull man shame there wasnt some like him in goverment ✌️🇬🇧
@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk
@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. I think Nigel has to get back into politics again. Urgently.
@richardhewer335
@richardhewer335 2 жыл бұрын
Paul I don't think he ever REALLY left.
@johntyrrell3458
@johntyrrell3458 2 жыл бұрын
Farage stood nine times an was rejected nine times
@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk
@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk 2 жыл бұрын
@@johntyrrell3458 - Politics is not all about winning. It’s about influencing outcomes and Nigel is quite good at that!
@johntyrrell3458
@johntyrrell3458 2 жыл бұрын
@@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk For you but not the electorate
@sammyharvard835
@sammyharvard835 2 жыл бұрын
@@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk he has enough money to do something about his TEETH.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@markstewart5822
@markstewart5822 2 жыл бұрын
What a great bloody man Andrew Pierce is !
@niguel4438
@niguel4438 2 жыл бұрын
Two great patriots. We need more and especially in government.
@michaelathanasiou2030
@michaelathanasiou2030 2 жыл бұрын
Boris is more of a patriot than Keir (who wants to open the borders for benefit seeking parasites)
@heliotropezzz333
@heliotropezzz333 2 жыл бұрын
In what sense are they patriots? Patriots according to what definition?
@niguel4438
@niguel4438 2 жыл бұрын
@@heliotropezzz333 proud of being British, it’s cultures, it’s laws and traditions. What would you say?
@kenpie474
@kenpie474 2 жыл бұрын
@@niguel4438 Well said Niguel 👍
@astorrian6247
@astorrian6247 2 жыл бұрын
@@niguel4438 Very well said, agree 100%.
@royferguson2297
@royferguson2297 2 жыл бұрын
Very humble guy
@davidjma7226
@davidjma7226 2 жыл бұрын
Someone should remind The Guardian that 'Facts are Sacred'
@SlowhandGreg
@SlowhandGreg 2 жыл бұрын
Be a rare day when we get some from Farage
@haydenb2
@haydenb2 2 жыл бұрын
Ha ha yeah johnson that paragon of honesty.
@manaraaaa3504
@manaraaaa3504 2 жыл бұрын
Andrew Pierce should work in GB News
@fridgehorse
@fridgehorse 2 жыл бұрын
Andrew Pierce, the man who claimed ONS figures said you were 32,000 times more likely to die if you were unjabbed. WRONG.. ONS claimed it was 32 times and that was disputed. 😂🤣🤡
@martinboulden4388
@martinboulden4388 2 жыл бұрын
What an amazing story Andrew. Wonderful episode.
@sarahblunt1098
@sarahblunt1098 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Andrew, The two men (Farage) and Andrew who make me feel sane and gives me hope for all of our futures.
@shaunhewitt1736
@shaunhewitt1736 2 жыл бұрын
We need you ,a voice for the people!!!!
@fredjones7307
@fredjones7307 2 жыл бұрын
The whole interview leaves some very dark prospects for the UK. If this was a real democracy we wouldn't be in this situation. Does anyone still believe voting in the next general election will make one jot of difference..
@outpost31737
@outpost31737 2 жыл бұрын
It's always darkest before dawn. Don't lose hope.
@shalinivarma237
@shalinivarma237 2 жыл бұрын
Voting is a scam all the leaders around the world along with politicians are either in bed with the WEF, china and other globalist organisations. Even Sir Keir sits on the trilateral commission. Look what happened in the last presidential election as well that was stolen. We dont live in a democracy its all been an illusion.
@laurenceallen7469
@laurenceallen7469 2 жыл бұрын
Another first class contribution
@davidjma7226
@davidjma7226 2 жыл бұрын
Top bloke AND a Thatcherite like me. I grew up at the same time.
@ieighttteleft
@ieighttteleft 2 жыл бұрын
Cracking interview.
@andybradley5094
@andybradley5094 2 жыл бұрын
Messaged my local MP last night, Mike Wood, Dudley. telling him how disappointed i was that only 7 illegals are now going and that this hotel cost 120 million pounds. Told him their immigration policy is disaster. His reply; If you say so. How typical of politicians these days.
@helenstiff6306
@helenstiff6306 2 жыл бұрын
Nigel and andrew two good talkers
@gallerycarnell4974
@gallerycarnell4974 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a Working Class Tory... well done Andrew
@ianwoodzy638
@ianwoodzy638 2 жыл бұрын
A fantastic discussion, I wish this had lasted an hour, and see what Andrew says after his glass of Vodka!
@kevinharker1840
@kevinharker1840 2 жыл бұрын
farage is a monster of a politician, nice to see andrew pierce on his show, his pause about the future of our country was very worrying tho.
@peterloxham502
@peterloxham502 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic get together. Top people talking sense!
@iggyace145
@iggyace145 2 жыл бұрын
I love Andrew Pierce. Great cynic & humour
@brianrichards3119
@brianrichards3119 2 жыл бұрын
I love hearing the background story.... the human story, behind the public figure.
@vicm4795
@vicm4795 2 жыл бұрын
From such a poor start in life, thanks to his wonderful working class adopted parents, he has blossomed into such an articulate and well rounded man. That should set an example to all the young victims being manufactured in our woke schools and colleges, to be brave and be individualistic.
@edwarddonnachie4412
@edwarddonnachie4412 2 жыл бұрын
Andrew Pierce is a fine journalist and a thoroughly decent guy. PS Nigel Farage for PM!
@bigshort9296
@bigshort9296 2 жыл бұрын
What a charming man, a real credit to his parents. Another good interview from Nigel.
@awalk5177
@awalk5177 2 жыл бұрын
Basine Zahawi is NOT competent to be a leader of anything. His public presence is not on the button with detail. He often looks stunned by some questions ,
@czerwonadupa9547
@czerwonadupa9547 2 жыл бұрын
My cousin worked on that production line with his dad & it was complete madness in the 70's. If the Welsh workers went on strike they were laid off because there was no steel. If the Oxford workers went on strike they were laid off because they didn't need the car bodies made in Swindon. Then you had the madness of the union negotiating a shorter working week when they had hardly ever worked a full week because of strikes & lay offs.
@Kyleinasailing
@Kyleinasailing 2 жыл бұрын
London has been awash with oligarch money the likes of which most people could not imagen. Money is power and incredibly persuasive. I think the UK economy is going to go down, and down, and down. Very sadly. And we all know why, don't we.
@SlowhandGreg
@SlowhandGreg 2 жыл бұрын
And GBNews is propped up with it, it would have gone under within weeks without outside funding propping it up
@NatMart9394
@NatMart9394 2 жыл бұрын
@@SlowhandGreg A man with a crystal ball !! Don’t you feel embarrassed and stupid making such predictive statements. Or do you really have connections to parallel universes?
@johnallen7807
@johnallen7807 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that this is certainly the least "conservative" leadership we have had and with 50% of the senior posts held by BAME politicians I struggle to understand how a true Conservative could vote for them.
@innvestor4622
@innvestor4622 2 жыл бұрын
The BAME observation is pointless because Kemi Badonoch is one of the best conservatives in the Tory party right now, by quite some distance. The black vote in America is fast becoming more conservative as well. A ‘true conservative’ comes in all shapes and sizes don’t worry about that 🥂
@johnallen7807
@johnallen7807 2 жыл бұрын
@@innvestor4622 Not to me, I do not believe they can truly understand our Anglo-Saxon roots and ingrained culture.
@rogersweet3608
@rogersweet3608 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnallen7807 Absolutely...that's why Jacob Rees Mogg is our best bet!!!
@johnallen7807
@johnallen7807 2 жыл бұрын
@@rogersweet3608 But would he be electable? Nigel would be the best hope for the Tories but now he has dropped out of politics many won't vote.
@chips1889
@chips1889 2 жыл бұрын
Partly my story, I was a socialist but first voted Tory in 1979.
@simonwhitworth4688
@simonwhitworth4688 2 жыл бұрын
Andrew and nigel what a breath of fresh two professional people having a sensible discussion 👏
@adamgrimsley2900
@adamgrimsley2900 2 жыл бұрын
Wow...two intellectual heavyweights
@luisbustamante9869
@luisbustamante9869 2 жыл бұрын
Yeap! In the GBNews parallel world people like these pass for intellectual heavyweights. They think Aaron Banks is a great man ffs! Crowdfunding for Banks as if he didn't have a few bob. How ridiculous you can be?
@stevet1963
@stevet1963 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see Andrew pierce v James O’Brien 🤔👍🏻👍🏻
@iggyace145
@iggyace145 2 жыл бұрын
Jobby is a bully & a coward. Andrew on the otherhand is in a league of his own.
@stevet1963
@stevet1963 2 жыл бұрын
@@iggyace145 Andrew is a gentleman
@dukeonthewater
@dukeonthewater 2 жыл бұрын
14 mins of common sense, thank you Mr F.
@grannykelly5799
@grannykelly5799 2 жыл бұрын
Love this interview, Nigel and Andrew a shit load of commen sense.
@namiboosterhuizen6610
@namiboosterhuizen6610 2 жыл бұрын
lET THE GOVERNMENT MAKE THE LAWS, let the judges rule in court. Simples!
@vladimirimp
@vladimirimp 2 жыл бұрын
So according to Andrew and Nigel there hasn't been a 'Conservative' leader of the Conservative party since 1990. I mean...after 30 years they have to accept that what they think a 'Conservative' is, is in the past.
@d.d.4703
@d.d.4703 2 жыл бұрын
The only presenter on LBC worth listening to. The others are just so left wing and l wonder if they really believe what they are saying! Andrew would be a great addition to LBC. Like me he is a Conservative with working class roots.
@brianwrightsunderlandcruis1699
@brianwrightsunderlandcruis1699 2 жыл бұрын
Hows that working out bet you voted for boris or are you one of the boris voters who say not me guv
@d.d.4703
@d.d.4703 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianwrightsunderlandcruis1699 A lot of people voted for Boris - what's wrong with that! No doubt you voted for Corbyn,
@wicksp335
@wicksp335 2 жыл бұрын
Yet another excellent interview on Talking Pints. The result of the Arron Banks case was a gross distortion of justice. I for one would contribute to a crowd-funded appeal to overturn it. The government should sort out the Human Rights legislation and remove the power judges now have. Parliament trumps the judiciary, it must do, or we're in the hands of a select few without regard for the people.
@polobhuilean5217
@polobhuilean5217 2 жыл бұрын
Well written dude, the AB case is an utter miscarriage, similar to the Depp fiasco…… 10 million bucks later !!
@jenniferjones188
@jenniferjones188 2 жыл бұрын
Really like Andrew Pierce speaks his mind and I like Farage good chat on this programme
@nuttysquirrel8574
@nuttysquirrel8574 2 жыл бұрын
I love A.P. and have followed his newspaper articles since the day he joined the Mail. A super interview but what I really enjoy is when A.P. is on 'against' that sourpuss kevin maguire - he always shows him up for the leftie, remoaning, nob that he is. More A.P. please.
@haroldland5834
@haroldland5834 2 жыл бұрын
Well as working class ex life long Labour voters we still won’t vote any crank party like labs ,libs or greens
@SlowhandGreg
@SlowhandGreg 2 жыл бұрын
So who then a National Populist party with empty short term popular solutions to problems that will make the problems worse given that they have been decades in the making? Our borrowing is currently at near 100% of GDP the IMF have recommended a wealth ta for countries to re-balance their books post covid, is anyone talking about it NO what we have is hikes in personal taxation and a tax cut for bankers
@Nik531
@Nik531 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work Nigel..
@Elizabeth-jd3mn
@Elizabeth-jd3mn 2 жыл бұрын
Frost, if not Reform UK.
@SlowhandGreg
@SlowhandGreg 2 жыл бұрын
Frostie the no man good luck with that a political chameleon who is no more genuine than the lying blonde idiot that tugged his leash
@richardlewis7498
@richardlewis7498 2 жыл бұрын
only problem it will take to long for Reform Uk to make an impact only running at 4% in the polls
@timcomley3241
@timcomley3241 2 жыл бұрын
Reform uk 🙄
@maxineblick2002
@maxineblick2002 2 жыл бұрын
Nigel for PM !
@heliotropezzz333
@heliotropezzz333 2 жыл бұрын
He can't even get elected as an MP. He's had 9 tries and 9 fails.
@sirnigelfarage5250
@sirnigelfarage5250 2 жыл бұрын
Love this 🙏
@d.jparer5184
@d.jparer5184 2 жыл бұрын
Get Michael franzese on when he's in the UK next month!
@cheriegoodwin6819
@cheriegoodwin6819 2 жыл бұрын
Both are honest and sincere, Andrew you should become an MP.....Nigel you are missed greatly...
@sonofednawelthorpe8609
@sonofednawelthorpe8609 2 жыл бұрын
It’s always good to see Andrew on tv. I always like to hear my views and concerns vocalised and he seems to do a bloody good job. What really annoys me that many still think we gays are all lefties when some of my friends would make TR blush.
@steveharman8907
@steveharman8907 2 жыл бұрын
And how I love Nigel nd Andrew both. The problem in politics is they are all career builders with not one ounce of street knowledge nor care for the communities. Why do English people who worked all life here get zero help when destitute and step up the do er beach and get housed and fed for free...despicable.
@stevengosney9083
@stevengosney9083 2 жыл бұрын
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I have a dream today.
@davetart7029
@davetart7029 2 жыл бұрын
Nigel and Andrew too lead a new political party would be a powerful team ,out debate anyone.
@keithgutridge7259
@keithgutridge7259 2 жыл бұрын
Mr Farrage join the Conservative party win a small local election become a tory MP with in a year your be prime minister and you can run the country how it should be...stranger things have happened
@johnturner1073
@johnturner1073 2 жыл бұрын
I used to watch him doing the Sky paper review but no longer do as I cannot stand that sneering, humourless creep on with him from the Mirror, simply loathe the creature. Shame really, as Andrew's views are worth hearing.
@ragnarironspear1791
@ragnarironspear1791 2 жыл бұрын
Who in your opinion folks would be a real conservative Nationalist leader
@brentmeistergeneral2813
@brentmeistergeneral2813 2 жыл бұрын
None of them. Not one.
@georginahalfnight7581
@georginahalfnight7581 2 жыл бұрын
Not nadin zahawi
@heliotropezzz333
@heliotropezzz333 2 жыл бұрын
Hitler
@Double_Vision
@Double_Vision 2 жыл бұрын
My word. This is the collegial behaviour, the shared history, the barbed disagreement, and the genuinely mutual _interests_ which used to define British politicians and British politics. In comparison to this, all one can do is shudder to think how deep the modern polarisation runs, and how the next cohort of MPs and Ministers will behave toward each other and toward the public.
@paulgrieve7031
@paulgrieve7031 2 жыл бұрын
Great chat. Thanks
@wenjewelchatterbox1127
@wenjewelchatterbox1127 Жыл бұрын
Love Andrew, even though I really disliked Thatcher and don't always agree with him. Great show Nigel.
@GerryDT
@GerryDT 2 жыл бұрын
I still think Nigel should go back to politics we need a New party. Make the UK great again.
@propheticwitness8624
@propheticwitness8624 2 жыл бұрын
Two top blokes,brilliant.
@valeriegrimshaw1365
@valeriegrimshaw1365 2 жыл бұрын
We had an INSET at college- 120 staff- and the presenter denigrated Mrs T. He spoke as if we all agreed with him. I couldn't keep quiet and put my hand up and said 'include me out'. I had to retire soon after. She enabled my children to attend public school at the time- instead of an awful comp in South London. AND she did a lot for poor women in Docklands by providing basic education and free creche.
@tommytaylor4139
@tommytaylor4139 2 жыл бұрын
Andrew Pierce is brilliant,how he hasn't throttled Kevin Maguire God only knows!,
@lewisgreen2957
@lewisgreen2957 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think either Labour or the conservatives want to win in 2024!
@kokloketan1177
@kokloketan1177 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on ..Andrew
@jeancassidy7910
@jeancassidy7910 Жыл бұрын
love Andrew
@simonnlaroche5438
@simonnlaroche5438 Жыл бұрын
Best channel ever!
@roykenyon886
@roykenyon886 2 жыл бұрын
A+ Guys
@polobhuilean5217
@polobhuilean5217 2 жыл бұрын
Talking pints 🍻 is an interesting concept and one can see the point, perhaps giving Dutch courage to the people coming on to debate / chat with Monsieur Le Farrage 😀. In total agreement on the AB débauche, also being so soft on illegal immigration and the grooming of fair skinned girls, by alibaba taxi drivers !! Just saying 😎
@timcomley3241
@timcomley3241 2 жыл бұрын
Top bloke Andrew 👍
@rogeralsop3479
@rogeralsop3479 2 жыл бұрын
Both interesting men.
@ianmac3648
@ianmac3648 2 жыл бұрын
TORY BOY and THE LYING 🤥 KING what a Double act ffs 🙈🤥🤥
@stevebandit1964
@stevebandit1964 2 жыл бұрын
He did just say " they're all Blonde and large " ? 🙄😁
@unchained5514
@unchained5514 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting the adoption bit for as in the last 2 years I lost my mum and then found out she had a daughter many years before me and was in touch with her for literally decades. How I found out? The daughter phoned me up a month after mum passed away.
@allanchalmers9778
@allanchalmers9778 2 жыл бұрын
What a joke. We've had a bumpy period for the past 50 years.
@paultidey1464
@paultidey1464 2 жыл бұрын
What a couple of oddballs.
@neilsmith4611
@neilsmith4611 2 жыл бұрын
Ukrainians sunbathing yesterday on there beaches..check the videos of it..
@maryearll3359
@maryearll3359 2 жыл бұрын
Ukrainian getting blown up by a mine when out swimming. 😮😢🙄. Check out the video
@christinelivesey4708
@christinelivesey4708 2 жыл бұрын
Great guy
@tonyknight9912
@tonyknight9912 2 жыл бұрын
Ha, ha, The Guardian, I used to read The Dandy & The Beano when I was a kid and they were better in my view than The Guardian is now.
@jakehunt8435
@jakehunt8435 2 жыл бұрын
Did any one else first read that as prince Andrew 😂
@alastairlaw1192
@alastairlaw1192 2 жыл бұрын
daily mail for goodness sake
@aquajew3000
@aquajew3000 2 жыл бұрын
Should have given him a pint of vodka. Now that would have be worth a watch.
@damienhugh
@damienhugh 2 жыл бұрын
Bet the big and blonde sisters will kick the shit out of him for saying that! 👊👊👊
@garethprice7879
@garethprice7879 2 жыл бұрын
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@edwinleslie1330
@edwinleslie1330 2 жыл бұрын
Who are these people....... But people who we need BRITISH PEEPS NEAD ..... Britain Neaded SOMEONE NOW WHO . MY CONTRY NEEDS SOMEONE WHO IS A STRONG LEADER.......NOT THE LEADERS WE HAVE......
@stephenwalsh8184
@stephenwalsh8184 2 жыл бұрын
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@angliscsaxon1288
@angliscsaxon1288 2 жыл бұрын
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@ODPcast
@ODPcast 2 жыл бұрын
water boy
@richie4561
@richie4561 2 жыл бұрын
boris will come through
@mygodpeoplebelievehim3084
@mygodpeoplebelievehim3084 2 жыл бұрын
Got brexit done what a joke
@harleyblue999
@harleyblue999 2 жыл бұрын
Talking Pints,oh yeh.
@johnakerman5428
@johnakerman5428 2 жыл бұрын
All so predictable.
@heliotropezzz333
@heliotropezzz333 2 жыл бұрын
His parents may have been able to go to work without concerning themselves about the unions after Thatcher, but I bet their pay rates suffered as a consequence.
@johnjjl
@johnjjl 2 жыл бұрын
it was the poor quality of output that cost then their jobs in the automotive industry, not politicians
@heliotropezzz333
@heliotropezzz333 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnjjl Really. Nissan came to the UK they said because of the skills of the automotive workers here (plus they could pay workers less in the North East and pocket a government subsidy also).
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