GBRF 59003 TO THE RESCUE, SALISBURY TRAINS CRASH

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Deej

Deej

2 жыл бұрын

59003 tugging at the wreckage from the crash that occurred on the evening of 31st October 2021, in the entrance to fisherton tunnel where 2 trains collided and came to rest in the tunnel.

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@Mick526
@Mick526 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I'd never have thought I'd see such a lack of mechanical sympathy AND health and safety in 60 seconds on the rails.
@nolantherailfan5048
@nolantherailfan5048 4 ай бұрын
The 59 is an SD40-2 of the uk
@wertrocks123
@wertrocks123 2 жыл бұрын
The way that 59 is bouncing like that is absolutely nuts
@andyrichards2569
@andyrichards2569 2 жыл бұрын
Its bouncing because they are using round slings of strops. You need 100 or 80 t chain or plat strip a the hauling connection so there is no give and you can put the load on ... I know because Ive done it !!!
@gazza1858
@gazza1858 2 жыл бұрын
@@andyrichards2569 Correct
@Slime.tsunami
@Slime.tsunami 2 жыл бұрын
I think it might be a class 66 not a class 59 but you may be right because they look very similar.
@wertrocks123
@wertrocks123 2 жыл бұрын
@@Slime.tsunami it's in the title
@Slime.tsunami
@Slime.tsunami 2 жыл бұрын
@@wertrocks123 oh ok
@davidnm21
@davidnm21 2 жыл бұрын
Phew! As a retired railway signaller I was quite shocked to see these bad working practices. If that cable or chain had snapped the railman nearest the tunnel mouth would have been decapitated. Those 59s are work horses when it comes to pulling heavy loads but even this beast couldn’t move whatever is holding those carriages fast in the tunnel mouth. Dangerous stuff!
@tom201090
@tom201090 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking that seemed a bit too close.
@caledonianrailway1233
@caledonianrailway1233 Жыл бұрын
Another coach I suspect
@cyberleaderandy1
@cyberleaderandy1 Жыл бұрын
Insanely close to that cable.
@aarphotos5
@aarphotos5 6 ай бұрын
The cable did end up snapping and nearly wrote the loco off
@fluggaenkoecchicebolsen
@fluggaenkoecchicebolsen 6 ай бұрын
It's wedged in a tunnel how do you propose they get it out? Stay in your signal box and let the professionals do what they have to do.
@johnlewis8150
@johnlewis8150 2 жыл бұрын
I’m shocked, the guy standing level with the rear of the locomotive is not going home for tea if that line snaps, it’s just crazy.
@puirYorick
@puirYorick 2 жыл бұрын
All three of these sods are potentially in the frag zone if the chain breaks and parts fly loose. I can't believe this was allowed by anyone with sense.
@fairweathercyclist
@fairweathercyclist 2 жыл бұрын
Can't believe I've just watched that! I'm looking forward to a few rail industry health and safety videos featuring it in the not to far distant future!
@Button-Bash
@Button-Bash 2 жыл бұрын
You must be fun at parties
@blunder4
@blunder4 2 жыл бұрын
Matey's way too close to that tensioned line...he's gotta be in the snap back zone. Not an expert but....
@r1273m
@r1273m 2 жыл бұрын
So true. I remember a case where a Range Rover was trying to tow a Land Rover out of some mud using a Kinetic Tow Rope. The tow hitch on the Land Rover broke free and went through the RR rear window and out of the front window, taking the passenger head restraint with it. Luckily the passenger had just got out to supervise the operation!
@RustyVanDoor
@RustyVanDoor 2 жыл бұрын
Stupid place to stand.
@JohnSeto
@JohnSeto 2 жыл бұрын
That was my first thought when I started watching this
@BibtheBoulder
@BibtheBoulder 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. At serious risk of literally being decapitated.
@Properkunt
@Properkunt 2 жыл бұрын
He must of done a risk assessment therefor he’s invisible
@richardpike1387
@richardpike1387 2 жыл бұрын
I like it how the DB guys were like yeah keep giving it the beans driver it's not our loco
@PillSharks
@PillSharks 2 жыл бұрын
I work around ship ropes and wires and I’m amazed at what I’m seeing here…the weight being put in the towing gear is ridiculous and if that parts it would cut a man in two! At least stand back toward the front of the train towing!
@MrSimpleone
@MrSimpleone 2 жыл бұрын
Bring back the true BR accident repair crews
@kristinajendesen7111
@kristinajendesen7111 2 жыл бұрын
Eastleigh breakdown crane & train when I started in '87. Pretty sure those experienced crews back then could have made short work of it. Breakdown crane anchoring itself down in the ballast & then winching it out after the crew had shored it up.
@michaelwalker1145
@michaelwalker1145 2 жыл бұрын
Love to know who thought standing that close to the cable was a good idea. You can bet your bottom dollar that thers a paperwork trail a mile long , so if it goes wrong the poor sod that gets hurt will be the one to blame . Risk and method statement Tool box talk Point of work Risk assessment. All as much use as a chocolate tea pot. You know each one has a stack of cards in his wallet from every peice off nonsense they need you to do before you get on site . It's getting that bad you will soon need a card for making a cup of tea or going to the loo. All, as we see here, a wast of time.
@markhealy9361
@markhealy9361 2 жыл бұрын
Hurt? Beheaded more like. That's a moronic place to stand.
@gazza1858
@gazza1858 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking same @ Michael Walker if it had snapped he would have been cut in half.
@photo3sixty700
@photo3sixty700 2 жыл бұрын
Just looking at this video I did think that Not a great idea .
@mickyg1953
@mickyg1953 2 жыл бұрын
Just shows you can tick all the boxes on their risk assessment forms and still have no common sense. I spent 40 years in Hard Rock Mining, seen it there as well. Mike, Johannesburg.
@haroldbell1097
@haroldbell1097 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed a major safety concern re the wire rope and staff being in the deadly snap back zone. thank goodness no one was hurt, it would have made very bad press for NR . where was the 'safe system of work and risk assessment ? - Retired H& S safety Advisor
@emeraldzebra9360
@emeraldzebra9360 2 жыл бұрын
As a trucker I came to say the same thing... I've been hit by a ratchet strap and that hurt enough... Nevermind a few thousand lbs of freight train on a steel cable
@class8866
@class8866 2 жыл бұрын
@@emeraldzebra9360 You are so right !
@davidwebb4904
@davidwebb4904 2 жыл бұрын
That was my very first thought. Reckless. Wheres health and safety when you need them…..
@stephensmith4480
@stephensmith4480 2 жыл бұрын
The Slings that they are using are not Wire, they are a Fibre composite. The reason they are used is so that you get a warning when they are about to fail. That`s why they don`t use Chains. I was a Member of a Railway Breakdown & Recovery Team.
@lotan1234
@lotan1234 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing that some of the comments on here are blaming H&S as a concept because this guy is putting himself at risk. Where is the logic in that?
@admiralcraddock464
@admiralcraddock464 2 жыл бұрын
what a bunch of cowboys. I went on a few derailments in the 70s and stunts like that would never have been performed
@stewieatb
@stewieatb 2 жыл бұрын
How many were in tunnel portals where you can't get a crane in, boss?
@leonbrown7710
@leonbrown7710 2 жыл бұрын
Absolute idiots.... should all be sacked...
@CycolacFan
@CycolacFan 10 ай бұрын
Doubt it did the surface of the rails much good either, or were they going to be replaced anyway. I guess time is money when it comes to clearance.
@alanrobbo6980
@alanrobbo6980 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see more videos sowing the rescue working please, this is very interesting.
@BigA1
@BigA1 2 жыл бұрын
It's a pity it stopped when it did. It was starting to get interesting.
@malcolm1933
@malcolm1933 2 жыл бұрын
totally agree would have loved it to be longer very interesting
@ianhughes7805
@ianhughes7805 2 жыл бұрын
Probability one of the worst cases of unprofessionalism I have seen. The people involved there should have known better and are lucky they didn't kill someone. Seems there was no one on that task with any safe recovery experience
@stuntmanwill
@stuntmanwill 2 жыл бұрын
In the news tomorrow, ‘a man has been killed in the clean up operation for a train crash where nobody died’
@sydnorth5868
@sydnorth5868 2 жыл бұрын
Whoever completed the 'Risk Assessment' forgot to deal with the question of " What might happen if the towing rope/chain/sling snaps?" It's amazing to think that this level of incompetence happened on the British rail network and was filmed by so many people without any one of them even realising they were all so stupid!
@craigdoran6811
@craigdoran6811 2 жыл бұрын
If it had snapped it would have rebound and hit the locomotive drawbar, a risk worth taking as most of the energy would have been dissipated by the time it hit.
@benpinkham6447
@benpinkham6447 2 жыл бұрын
Put a couple of 9f's on it. That would be worth seeing AND hearing.
@stuartthurstan
@stuartthurstan 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It would be worth seeing and hearing. Sadly though even two 9fs can't match the maximum tractive effort of the 59.
@benpinkham6447
@benpinkham6447 2 жыл бұрын
@@stuartthurstan Yeah true.
@bigdikboiCJ
@bigdikboiCJ Жыл бұрын
no needs big boy
@petittrainguernsey3297
@petittrainguernsey3297 2 жыл бұрын
Surely a static winch through a couple of snatch blocks would give huge mechanical advantage, without risk of cable breakage. Or if your gonna do a direct pull could have used a kinetic rope to snatch it out of the tunnel.
@juliansprott90
@juliansprott90 2 жыл бұрын
From a video posted looking down from the top of the tunnel, the cable (not a chain) never broke but it pulled the coupling straight out of buffer beam. I spoke to few of my FGW friends at Westbury and it seems that the gas axes are going in next.
@railfreightdrivergallagherGBRf
@railfreightdrivergallagherGBRf 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, likelihood is it's the end for these units, plus their age now will mean they are beyond economic repair. They are well and truly wedged!!!
@georgeadams2555
@georgeadams2555 2 жыл бұрын
@@railfreightdrivergallagherGBRf i would have thought the damage to the front carriage would have been enough for them to not brother repairing
@tom201090
@tom201090 Жыл бұрын
Was that the coupling beam of the Loco or the DMUs.
@MrDazvere
@MrDazvere 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Digging chunks of track off under the beasts wheels!
@davidwebb4904
@davidwebb4904 2 жыл бұрын
That will be a speed bump for future traffic thru there as a reminder.
@BulletNoseBetty
@BulletNoseBetty 2 жыл бұрын
My guess is that the boss is on his coffee break and the crew decided to get creative.
@ascoughc
@ascoughc 2 жыл бұрын
Or the boss doesn't know what he's doing, and neither do the crew.
@traindriver35
@traindriver35 2 жыл бұрын
What terrible hand signals. Clueless! And what if that strap had snapped with him there? What a circus this was. Network rail all over these days. They can't even get speed restriction boards up these days without a mistake somewhere. Wrong boards, magnets in the wrong place etc, etc.
@jordanmuldoon1670
@jordanmuldoon1670 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus even the 59 is struggling a little and she's an absolute beast they just have fairly wedged in that tunnel. Very interesting video make sure to get more footy
@rustynuts4426
@rustynuts4426 2 жыл бұрын
That engine can pull over 4000 tons
@harrymcandrew1447
@harrymcandrew1447 2 жыл бұрын
@@rustynuts4426 if it can drag over 4000 tons this vid makes it clear that its struggling to pull a wrecked train carriage free
@davidwebb4904
@davidwebb4904 2 жыл бұрын
You have to understand ‘traction’. Imagine putting a Ferrari or Lambo on an ice rink. See how fast their many hundreds of horsepower will get them. A good speed skater would beat them to 100m. Same thing here. Horsepower means nothing if their is no traction. And smooth steel on steel has little traction.
@jordanmuldoon1670
@jordanmuldoon1670 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidwebb4904 I can only imagine those locos have some weight and power, mad to the wheels spin on the rail like that
@harrymcandrew1447
@harrymcandrew1447 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidwebb4904 im not that stupid just saying if its able to drag the tons you mentioned its clearly struggaling in the vid
@anunggaming
@anunggaming 2 жыл бұрын
Nice and interesting video
@Roo63
@Roo63 2 жыл бұрын
WoW! Thanks.
@bryaninglis
@bryaninglis 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, simple, elegant solution to an unusual problem.....perhaps another loco or three for added traction, time to bring in the 37's....
@JC-jw2kw
@JC-jw2kw 2 жыл бұрын
How else would they pull the train out?
@royfearn4345
@royfearn4345 2 жыл бұрын
@Exiled Viking it's not the horsepower: it's the adhesion.
@formidable38
@formidable38 2 жыл бұрын
37's woudlnt touch it.
@bryaninglis
@bryaninglis 2 жыл бұрын
@RC2L oh yeah!
@bigcasey4143
@bigcasey4143 2 жыл бұрын
@@royfearn4345 Precisely
@yant8777
@yant8777 2 жыл бұрын
For all the ppl posting about the danger of the steel rope snapping....they are designed to go dead to the ground without recoil.Similar to any steel rope on a winch.
@mikemccarthy4765
@mikemccarthy4765 2 жыл бұрын
exactly, I worked forestry and the cables we used there are designed to flop to the ground if they snap. Lot of people commenting don't know what they're talking about.
@petittrainguernsey3297
@petittrainguernsey3297 2 жыл бұрын
Never seen a steel wire cable let go under tension then? Drop to the ground? After its dispersed its energy smashing anything in its path.
@mikemccarthy4765
@mikemccarthy4765 2 жыл бұрын
@@petittrainguernsey3297 the ones we used in forestry weren't steal, they had a composite core. And I have witnessed what happened when they snapped under load.
@petittrainguernsey3297
@petittrainguernsey3297 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikemccarthy4765 Right....so when a steel one let’s go it’s a different story. Hence the reason why folk are using alternatives like Dyneema these days. Used to work on tugs chum, I’ve seen plenty of wire hawsers let go, and believe me, they don’t “Drop to the ground”. I’ve seen 2 inch wire hawser snap and travel 100m into the towed vessels bridge structure. With a direct pull like these guys are doing they should really have something over that cable to make it drop to the ground. Modern synthetic ropes combined with snatch blocks and soft shackles would make this whole process so much safer.
@garryknott
@garryknott 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah you might want to watch this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2i7ooGOaN55is0
@alannewman85
@alannewman85 2 жыл бұрын
All 3 of those guys are at high risk of serious injury standing where they are most especially the guy at the cab nearest the tunnel - if that towing line parts - the amount of tension that loco is putting on that tow is immense. Consider themselves lucky not to be dead or have life altering injuries as a result.
@marktucker208
@marktucker208 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t stop watching it, don’t really like trains but this is mental. Train tug o war should become a thing
@MrTantrums007
@MrTantrums007 2 жыл бұрын
All this hassle because network rail fail to cut back all the lineside trees and vegetation as the Big Four and early BR did years ago (Leaves on the line, skidding trains etc.).
@backfirematty3526
@backfirematty3526 2 жыл бұрын
This film needs to go to the ORR in my opinion - Dangerous for all concerned.
@alantoms3263
@alantoms3263 2 жыл бұрын
Just the thought of the power involved there, as stated 'bouncing' on the cable - and that the cable didn't snap - imagine that thing going? !! Did it move them after all? Al.
@jonathanphelan6627
@jonathanphelan6627 Жыл бұрын
Didn't look as if was ever going to get anywhere doing that ! How did they ever get it out ?
@pigpenpete
@pigpenpete 2 жыл бұрын
Has anyone mentioned anything about those guys being too close to that tow line at all?
@marka108
@marka108 2 жыл бұрын
i imagine Mr Skinner and co will be watching with interest, someones will be getting their P45....
@damienboyington4057
@damienboyington4057 2 жыл бұрын
Thats some awesome footage but as a plant opp and had first hand experience of having towing equipment snap and coming through the window, those guys need a wakeup call. I myself have almost been decaped by a rope coming through the window of a excavator. I know the job needs to get done but good clearance is needed in situations like this, everyone wants to go home alive after all.
@mnshp7548
@mnshp7548 2 жыл бұрын
this is billiant, crazy how much the 59 moves and bounces about
@TheMaldivianTrios
@TheMaldivianTrios 3 ай бұрын
What train did it crash?
@desert-penguin
@desert-penguin Жыл бұрын
How was the trains eventually free'd? did this method eventually work, or did they have to do something else, if so what?
@Deej-85
@Deej-85 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure mate I assume this method worked,
@leeclough6569
@leeclough6569 2 жыл бұрын
How ever done the H&S risk assessment on that is a legend lol
@AndyGabrielPowell
@AndyGabrielPowell 2 жыл бұрын
As flimsy as it looks, that cable could have had a strength tolerance of up to 1500 tons if it was made of Kevlar or Dyneema, probably well below the tractive effort the 59 would have been able to apply in this scenario before slipping occurred. Nevertheless, I wouldn't have been stood there. I've no doubt there would also have been severe pressure to get the line open again, which usually calls for the fastest solution. As for the 59, the technology in these is still very much current. I remember their introduction back in Foster Yeoman days. They changed the freight scene in the UK forever. Cue the arrival of the 66's.
@johnkeepin7527
@johnkeepin7527 2 жыл бұрын
No shortage of spectators, by the look of it! One of the clips I’ve come across on here was presumably shot from the London Road bridge. In one of the others, one of the ‘witnesses’ appeared to be a BTP officer, in a rather hazardous position on the track using a camera - presumably to acquire evidence? Not nice.
@stuartthurstan
@stuartthurstan 2 жыл бұрын
You're probably right, although the way the 59 is bouncing back and forth there will be momentary snatch forces on the cable quite a bit higher than the loco can produce in a totally static pull. I think the greater concern could be the attachment points, particularly the one at the wreckage end. Who knows how structurally sound anything is back there after a wreck?
@Trainsandbits
@Trainsandbits 8 ай бұрын
I have that class 59 on my layout!!!!! ❤❤❤❤ long live 59003!!!! For being a hero!!!
@davidsheriff8989
@davidsheriff8989 2 жыл бұрын
Is the line now open ?
@union310
@union310 2 жыл бұрын
Whoever done that risk assessment wants sacked sharpish , if them chains snapped those lads on the track are dead !!!
@dpke
@dpke 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting!
@andyash5675
@andyash5675 2 жыл бұрын
It's not often that you will see the traction control system working that hard.
@charlesgalloway3445
@charlesgalloway3445 2 жыл бұрын
That's a hell of a yank on the cable and it still looks stuck
@2929buster
@2929buster 2 жыл бұрын
Very poor safety if that strop or fixing snapped the “ safety man” wouldn’t know what hit him, if your going to try to toe it out the strop needs to be much longer better still get blocks and tackle in to gain mechanical advantage very unprofessional example being shown.
@Dan23_7
@Dan23_7 2 жыл бұрын
Tow**. Strap** Learn to spell properly before delivering a smart arse comment. They obviously need you down there hey ?
@stephensmith4480
@stephensmith4480 2 жыл бұрын
Mister, you haven`t got a clue what you are talking about. There is risk in everything you do on that type of job, I know because it was my line of work. Believe me, the risks are carefully calculated before any such operation begins, to keep them to a minimum. Don`t start calling people who are experts in a very dangerous field " unprofessional " when you clearly don`t know what you are talking about. It`s insulting in the least.
@Dan23_7
@Dan23_7 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephensmith4480 Well said 👍🏼
@stephensmith4480
@stephensmith4480 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dan23_7 😜
@duncansjhamilton7498
@duncansjhamilton7498 2 жыл бұрын
GBRF would cringe at this, million dollar loco.. 6 wheel sets that will need lathing after they spun flats onto them. Absolute cowboys. If they really needed to do it this way should have used coupled locos to get the tractive effort and rail contact and all of them stood well back.
@georgeadams2555
@georgeadams2555 2 жыл бұрын
don't you mean 12 wheels
@duncansjhamilton7498
@duncansjhamilton7498 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgeadams2555 it says wheel sets doesn’t it. If there were 12 wheel sets the loco would then have 24 wheels.
@georgeadams2555
@georgeadams2555 2 жыл бұрын
@@duncansjhamilton7498 my bad, i read this at 3 in the morning and missed that bit, you are right
@justandy333
@justandy333 2 жыл бұрын
A rather ham fisted way of retrieving the stricken carriage. The HSE would have a fit if they saw what was going on here. A more controlled approach would be to have temporary buffers set up on the track the locomotive hard up against them and a winch between the loco and the carriage. And an exclusion zone!
@leonkernan
@leonkernan 2 жыл бұрын
I figured they'd take up the slack then pull, but apparently not! Full send!
@popdragosandrei1622
@popdragosandrei1622 2 жыл бұрын
The rails probably were fucked
@mickgriffin3335
@mickgriffin3335 2 жыл бұрын
Mickey Mouse rescue attempt, safety compromised and dragging against the ballast and sleepers, appalling for so called professional engineers.
@TheBrickGuy7939
@TheBrickGuy7939 2 жыл бұрын
Even worse how the crash happened in a tunnel as now a breakdown train cannot be used until everything is dragged out.
@davidty2006
@davidty2006 2 жыл бұрын
it technically could but it will be very tight. probs only enough to get it not dragging on the ballast as much.
@user-wy3zd1px6j
@user-wy3zd1px6j 6 ай бұрын
I’m currently completing a c4 running exam on this locomotive. She’s been severely abused to say the least, but somehow she’s still fit for purpose, just goes to show how sturdy these vehicles were made to be.
@jmupton2000
@jmupton2000 2 жыл бұрын
If that cable had snapped or the coach had suddenly broken free there would have been carnage. That was utterly bonkers!
@andym1466
@andym1466 2 жыл бұрын
Standing right on the firing line of that cable 😨
@tomatoes3
@tomatoes3 2 жыл бұрын
Taking a risk standing in line of the towing cable if it broke. You would think these guys knew the risk .Very poor .
@gpn854
@gpn854 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't want to be close when the cable breaks .
@jamesvickers1635
@jamesvickers1635 2 жыл бұрын
Tin hats would not be much good
@railfreightdrivergallagherGBRf
@railfreightdrivergallagherGBRf 2 жыл бұрын
Those cables are designed to drop down, not flail sideways, for that very reason.
@JACKYBOY281
@JACKYBOY281 2 жыл бұрын
@@railfreightdrivergallagherGBRf they are called strops
@railfreightdrivergallagherGBRf
@railfreightdrivergallagherGBRf 2 жыл бұрын
@@JACKYBOY281 Yes
@exb.r.buckeyeman845
@exb.r.buckeyeman845 2 жыл бұрын
Rail burn at 55 seconds, will need to replace the track just there.
@ObviousSchism
@ObviousSchism 2 жыл бұрын
That was brutal.
@jasonga
@jasonga 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video.....what is the ticking noise that comes from those loco's???? Also be very careful around the tow lne as if it parts it could cut someone in half with the whipping of it..... good video though boys!!
@Deej-85
@Deej-85 2 жыл бұрын
Ticking noise is normally the main reservoir "clacker valve" which is a continuous momentary opening valve at the lowest point of air system of the loco to discharge any built up water as the loco compresses its own air for them brake systems etc.
@jasonga
@jasonga 2 жыл бұрын
@@Deej-85 ah yes, should have known that....
@ECMLTrains
@ECMLTrains 2 жыл бұрын
@@Deej-85 yinging
@BritishTrainspotting
@BritishTrainspotting 2 жыл бұрын
@@Deej-85 they're called a spirax valve iirc
@bill1047
@bill1047 2 жыл бұрын
That’s one way to shine the rails.
@uktrains3183
@uktrains3183 2 жыл бұрын
That train doing a burn out lmao
@cultofcargo
@cultofcargo 2 жыл бұрын
that looks like a serious bit of kit
@vits-nz
@vits-nz 2 жыл бұрын
As an armchair watcher, I would have used two locomotives, one as an anchor point, to the derailed train, and back to the powered locomotive
@FM60260
@FM60260 Жыл бұрын
You can't really couple a 59 to Sprinter since they don't have the same coupling equipment
@bigdikboiCJ
@bigdikboiCJ Жыл бұрын
@@FM60260 WRONG first that is 66 class and u can coupple anything coz that is required for rescues
@SportyMabamba
@SportyMabamba Жыл бұрын
@@bigdikboiCJ it literally says 59003 on the GBRF cab you absolute weapon
@bigdikboiCJ
@bigdikboiCJ Жыл бұрын
@@SportyMabamba i said that before about the class 82 dvt and class 77 emd but told no they arent class numbers
@keithtanner2806
@keithtanner2806 2 жыл бұрын
Why are they not using a crane to pull it or do they not have heavy lift rail mounted cranes any more?
@georgeadams2555
@georgeadams2555 2 жыл бұрын
they had 3 but i think they sold them
@fluggaenkoecchicebolsen
@fluggaenkoecchicebolsen 5 ай бұрын
Wow I never knew there were so many experts in recovering derailed trains in the world. They're all right here in the comments.
@RailwayVideos.
@RailwayVideos. 2 жыл бұрын
Did they manage to move the train pulling it at the end?
@tgm9991
@tgm9991 2 жыл бұрын
@Exiled Viking That would have been considered before falling to this which would have been a last resort probably because of how the train is resting its wheels are nowhere near any of the rails the other train is on the rails it should be on.
@Paul_707
@Paul_707 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it was moved Friday morning and lifted out Friday afternoon. It’s odd how so many new comments are still assuming it won’t work over 24 hours later…
@formidable38
@formidable38 2 жыл бұрын
@Exiled Viking Jack it onto what? The bogies and under-gear are destroyed.
@RaysRailVideos
@RaysRailVideos 2 жыл бұрын
Haha love how they have that coach supported to stop it falling over then try to pull it out and those props are helping to keep it in place haha, surly it would of been better to move the other part of the unit thats on its wheels then right the part thats on its side to its wheels and then drag that bit out.
@DOCTORDROTT
@DOCTORDROTT 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder if this is the Didcot based DB recovery team ? . All the good staff and breakdown supervisors have gone. Training and experience needed here. BR and EWS had great gangs. Most retired and moved on. Its so sad to see. Had a similar job years back , told the driver of the 66 to put it in slow speed control, that is much smother and put on power in a better way . Moved a locked up wagon three times the weight of that unit. Network rail MOM should have stopped this job
@TwmUkLive
@TwmUkLive Жыл бұрын
Yikes, what a mess
@mickclarke392
@mickclarke392 2 жыл бұрын
If that line broke there would be bodies on the track, crazy
@jess.hawkins
@jess.hawkins Жыл бұрын
Gosh, carriages musta been quite stuck, seeing the 59 loco giving it a good grunt and it was bouncing around struggling!
@killman369547
@killman369547 2 жыл бұрын
Need to add 10 more cables and then really start yanking on it. Some times the brute force method is the best method.
@Knappist
@Knappist 2 жыл бұрын
Yeeeehaaaa it’s just like a Wild West film compleat with Cowboys 😂
@Dan23_7
@Dan23_7 2 жыл бұрын
The sparks coming from the 59’s front wheel !!!
@bigdikboiCJ
@bigdikboiCJ Жыл бұрын
it is class 66 br
@Dan23_7
@Dan23_7 Жыл бұрын
@@bigdikboiCJ I’m not really knowledgeable on trains. I thought the “59” at the start of the numbers meant class, model etc. I do definitely know what the 37 and 23 are though 💨 💨
@bigdikboiCJ
@bigdikboiCJ Жыл бұрын
@@Dan23_7 theres no class 23 but class 59 might be gbrf thing since they have class 77 now that is same as class 66 also
@raymondwelsh6028
@raymondwelsh6028 2 жыл бұрын
Those guys are going to be in a world of hurt if that cable snaps.🇦🇺
@donaldstanfield8862
@donaldstanfield8862 2 жыл бұрын
Omg, I did not know this
@chrismckay8349
@chrismckay8349 2 жыл бұрын
So satisfying
@DOCTORDROTT
@DOCTORDROTT 6 ай бұрын
The could have used one or even two locos as an anchor point on the line the guys were on , snatch block to double pulling force and use slow speed control on the pulling loco, shorten the haul rope / chain and keep well out of the way. Those units are not that heavy.
@gerry343
@gerry343 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't give much for the chances of that guy near the cable!
@GWAYGWAY1
@GWAYGWAY1 2 жыл бұрын
Some rail wear there with the wheels going around. A lot of pulling power but I would prefer winching.
@Lookup2Wakeup
@Lookup2Wakeup 2 жыл бұрын
I agree.....👍
@beazely94
@beazely94 2 жыл бұрын
New engine for the 59 after that by the sounds of it under alot of strain
@frankparsons1629
@frankparsons1629 2 жыл бұрын
In steam days they'd use chains which withstand hundreds of tons, whats wrong with these guys.
@trainswithmark
@trainswithmark 2 жыл бұрын
What's better than 1 class 59? Maybe 2 59s will do it?
@rearspeaker6364
@rearspeaker6364 2 жыл бұрын
....three is better!
@trainswithmark
@trainswithmark 2 жыл бұрын
@@rearspeaker6364 well of course there's that too! Triple the power, triple the locos and triple the force!
@nickstafford610
@nickstafford610 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha I've seen some crappy tactics before but this tops them all. Love to know who did the calculations for the pull.
@PeterWTaylor
@PeterWTaylor 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure, but it wasn't Isaac Newton.
@ianhudson2193
@ianhudson2193 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the 70s, BR successfully dragged a complete 37 (which weighs much more than a 159 car) off the bank of the River Thames near Tilehurst back up the embankment to the GW main line.......with Kebrus Gear and 4 47s (three of them merely as Anchor points) in one day!!!! What has happened to railway expertise??? This looks more like some recovery exercise in South America or Albania.......
@garthhentley8870
@garthhentley8870 2 жыл бұрын
Too confined a space me thinks.
@dodgydruid
@dodgydruid 2 жыл бұрын
I watched 'em lift the stricken engine nr Hither Green that had gone down the bank, lifted with precision and taken away fairly quickly too.
@ianhudson2193
@ianhudson2193 2 жыл бұрын
@@dodgydruid Would that be the 56 they rescued from someone's garden?
@TheMusicalElitist
@TheMusicalElitist 2 жыл бұрын
Really? And how do you know? Have you been to those countries?
@ianhudson2193
@ianhudson2193 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMusicalElitist yes......to edges of Albania and to Argentina, Uruguay and Brazil......and you??
@dollydiddums7889
@dollydiddums7889 2 жыл бұрын
Careful you don't slip guys ! Leaves on the line can be deadly 🤔
@youshowmeyours
@youshowmeyours 2 жыл бұрын
So nothing happens?
@roconnor01
@roconnor01 2 жыл бұрын
I take it you have been on a health and safety course lads ?
@rearspeaker6364
@rearspeaker6364 2 жыл бұрын
at the local pub!!!!
@ianhudson2193
@ianhudson2193 2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me but, given the 159 car is probably a write off, why no jack it onto its side on the UP line rails and use them as a sliding surface if you're going to drag it out??🤷‍♂️
@dodgydruid
@dodgydruid 2 жыл бұрын
One would hope so, many of us locals were seriously asking for some cycled out HST's to replace those awful awful trains. The operator deliberately even in rush hour provide the bare minimum and during the day and school hours you can find you can't get on let alone stand.
@norfolkhall
@norfolkhall 2 жыл бұрын
@@dodgydruid In my neck of the woods, the 159 is classed as a luxury. We used to have Pacers until they were phased out.
@richwielechowski5191
@richwielechowski5191 2 жыл бұрын
Flat spots on traction axles and gouges in rail, but fun to watch.
@five-o5362
@five-o5362 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if DB would have done it this way if they owned the infrastructure.
@DOCTORDROTT
@DOCTORDROTT 2 жыл бұрын
been on a few jobs with EWS / DB these guys are cowboys what has happened to training ? managers to blame
@davidty2006
@davidty2006 2 жыл бұрын
How about DRS? if they can move nuclear flasks daily then they should have little issue pulling out a wreck.
@jamesvickers1635
@jamesvickers1635 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidty2006 nonsense
@alanbanks9474
@alanbanks9474 Жыл бұрын
Or the loco. It's still OOS awaiting new wheelsets.
@Fireball409
@Fireball409 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone absolutely KNOW what country this video was shot?
@danieljohnston1111
@danieljohnston1111 Жыл бұрын
Salisbury, UK
@Fireball409
@Fireball409 Жыл бұрын
@@danieljohnston1111 Thanks for the info.
@britishfilmguy
@britishfilmguy 2 жыл бұрын
Did better than the first attempt after it broke down and damaged the track.
@marioburgess4400
@marioburgess4400 2 жыл бұрын
I like the railway seepes
@bigdikboiCJ
@bigdikboiCJ Жыл бұрын
wot they need ropes for just couple the 66 class to the broken train and that point the independent break will also work on that one so they can move it easier
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