Gear-Ratio-Accelerated? Yep, It's a Thing: French MAT 1955 Prototype

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@ImperiousBaron
@ImperiousBaron 11 ай бұрын
The fact that Ian keeps finding examples of guns like this to show us after I don't even know how many years he's been doing Forgotten Weapons just show's how insanely deep the weapons design rabbit hole goes. I don't think I'll ever tire of watching him.
@Gameprojordan
@Gameprojordan 11 ай бұрын
He's been doing forgotten weapons for at least a decade now
@philhawley1219
@philhawley1219 11 ай бұрын
I must say that Ian finds some very unusual items for our perusal. Sorry to say that this is a very long winded description of a completely stupid rifle . Yawn.
@Laundry_Hamper
@Laundry_Hamper 11 ай бұрын
@philhawley1219 Are you suggesting it is a forgettable weapon
@SounakDas-zb3xc
@SounakDas-zb3xc 11 ай бұрын
Funky small arms design iceberg when?
@d-rot
@d-rot 10 ай бұрын
@@philhawley1219 lol. Whoosh.
@wh8787
@wh8787 11 ай бұрын
This is the most French case ever of "the French copy nobody, and nobody copies the French".
@rogerjohnson8707
@rogerjohnson8707 11 ай бұрын
Very interesting firearm.
@lairdcummings9092
@lairdcummings9092 11 ай бұрын
When your auto mechanic doubles as your gunsmith...
@JanTuts
@JanTuts 11 ай бұрын
​@@lairdcummings9092 Sounds like they are a _full auto_ mechanic.
@vladcrow4225
@vladcrow4225 11 ай бұрын
"Different" doesnt's mean "useful".
@lairdcummings9092
@lairdcummings9092 11 ай бұрын
@@JanTuts 😁
@wowomatic
@wowomatic 11 ай бұрын
This. This is peak Forgotten Weapons. I’m so glad Ian has managed to weasel his way into the good graces of the French Gendarmerie because this is the kind of content I bookmarked the blog for back in like 2010.
@TacgnolSimulacrum
@TacgnolSimulacrum 11 ай бұрын
I remember years and years ago he had made an offhand comment about not being able to get into French records/official armories/etc. Now he's not only getting access, he's getting the level of "What wierd prototype do you want to play with today" access that we all love.
@lairdcummings9092
@lairdcummings9092 11 ай бұрын
We really owe France a debt of gratitude. They try so many odd "what if" ideas, such that no one else has to bother. Mad respect to their creativity, and their willingness to dive down strange rabbit holes.
@lairdcummings9092
@lairdcummings9092 11 ай бұрын
Also: "When your auto mechanic doubles as a gunsmith."
@Raspredval1337
@Raspredval1337 11 ай бұрын
weren't pretty much all american automobile/tractor companies involved in gun making one way or another during WW2? @@lairdcummings9092
@SolvietSoundtrack115
@SolvietSoundtrack115 11 ай бұрын
Well put.
@toomanyhobbies2011
@toomanyhobbies2011 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely correct! The French were creative and incredibly honest to their culture and the world's benefit.
@patriotenfield3276
@patriotenfield3276 11 ай бұрын
You certainly haven't heard of Soviet prototype monstrosities .
@PokemonHaloFan
@PokemonHaloFan 11 ай бұрын
What surprises me is that the same arsenal that created the simple and effective MAT49 also came up with this overly complex rifle.
@khaelamensha3624
@khaelamensha3624 11 ай бұрын
Being French I must apologize that we made once something that is simple. Our most sincere apologies, we learn from our mistakes, it will not happen again! 😂
11 ай бұрын
Sometimes it is worth exploring some idea only to prove that it was not the best idea :D
@Cyan_Nightingale
@Cyan_Nightingale 11 ай бұрын
Not surprising. Considering the Chauchat, Hotchkiss, etc these Fremch engineering were often unnecessarily overcomplicated
@tombogan03884
@tombogan03884 11 ай бұрын
@@khaelamensha3624 You've been spending too much time with the Swiss. 😁
@me67galaxylife
@me67galaxylife 11 ай бұрын
@khaelamensha3624 Cringe malaise
@mrblack5145
@mrblack5145 11 ай бұрын
The Fallout 4 assault rifle we deserved, but not the one we got.
@marcum209
@marcum209 11 ай бұрын
Facts
@GA-br8wj
@GA-br8wj 11 ай бұрын
Yes and yes this one is also fugly
@ez-bakeoven6797
@ez-bakeoven6797 11 ай бұрын
Nah, this the AK-112 from the Original.
@DustyGamma
@DustyGamma 11 ай бұрын
We need this and a replacer mod!
@wonderflounium
@wonderflounium 11 ай бұрын
​@ez-bakeoven6797 why not both?
@gilmour6754
@gilmour6754 11 ай бұрын
Extremely strange machinery? Check. French? Check. Looks like it was made by a couple of chain-smokers in someone's basement? Check. Ian was probably so excited to film this rifle. Great video.
@Blu0tuth0ninja
@Blu0tuth0ninja 11 ай бұрын
I'm not sure if anyone has said this, but I think you misunderstood the gearing here. That small gear riding on the pinion is going to rotate X number of times. The larger part of the gear is going to rotate the same number of times, but with a larger circumference. This means the relative speed is going to be faster. This faster speed is going to accelerate the bolt back faster than the barrel moves. This isn't a delayed system. This is a way to achieve a short recoil system without just unlocking the bolt and letting it yeet backwards into the buffer.
@clone4211
@clone4211 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, someone else that didn’t misunderstand its gear-delayed nonsense.
@manasjena949
@manasjena949 11 ай бұрын
Accelerators are generally called some kind of delayed system like lever delayed used in famas or in browning 50 cal. machine gun
@chiriematthieu
@chiriematthieu 11 ай бұрын
This is also why the spring is so strong. Because it s work on a shorter lenght.
@wyattrowe8396
@wyattrowe8396 11 ай бұрын
Exactly. It’s just a gear reduction that makes the bolt fully cycle with a short travel of the barrel.
@lucianene7741
@lucianene7741 11 ай бұрын
Totally right. This isn't a delaying system but a plain and simple bolt accelerator. The mystery is why they chose this fragile geared system when bolt accelerators were widely known and understood at the time, and far simpler and sturdier systems were available, such as the ones in the Browning M1919 or in the M2 heavy machine gun.
@Immopimmo
@Immopimmo 11 ай бұрын
Looks like someone tried to make a BAR from memory.
@mrblack5145
@mrblack5145 11 ай бұрын
"Mom, can we stop somewhere and get a BAR?" 'No, we have a BAR at home.' *the BAR at home:*
@ethantaillefer-meyn6535
@ethantaillefer-meyn6535 11 ай бұрын
To me it looks like the chatellerault but with the mag on the bottom
@SolvietSoundtrack115
@SolvietSoundtrack115 11 ай бұрын
glad i wasnt the only one who saw the bar design elements
@johnnyappleseed6415
@johnnyappleseed6415 11 ай бұрын
French Ordinance Dept: Develop a functioning rifle. Also French Ordinance Dept: Make it absolutely different from every other successful rifle on the planet. ----------------------- Ian: Guns and gears don't mix well. Lewis Gun: Hold my beer...
@williampratt1066
@williampratt1066 11 ай бұрын
Diana/Original model 66 air rifle hold this stein you ain’t seen nothing yet😮
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 11 ай бұрын
The G11 operating system is basically all gears and cams, it looks like a clock…
@jalpat2272
@jalpat2272 11 ай бұрын
dont forget most burst fire mechanism involved a "gear"
@somuchnope2
@somuchnope2 11 ай бұрын
Ian is notably not a fan of the G11 or burst mechanisms in general
@TammoKorsai
@TammoKorsai 11 ай бұрын
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 I'm amazed it wasn't a Swiss invention... but if it was, there would've been a toggle-lock.
@paleoph6168
@paleoph6168 11 ай бұрын
Ian is gaining more power showing us these unusual French prototypes...his blood is now onion soup.
@lairdcummings9092
@lairdcummings9092 11 ай бұрын
I thought his circulatory system pumps pure Boudreaux wine..?
@mikehipperson
@mikehipperson 11 ай бұрын
What? No croutons?
@AshleyPomeroy
@AshleyPomeroy 11 ай бұрын
One day he will marry a short, dark-haired lady called Yvette, and open a restaurant in Boulogne-sur-Mer called Le Clarion Mechanique. It will only serve soup made with gun oil, and the walls will be covered in surrealistic drawings involving gears and pullies.
@jeanmemmler5865
@jeanmemmler5865 11 ай бұрын
​@@AshleyPomeroyAs a French, if it ever happens, I 100 percent go try that beautiful idea as logical and obvious as our weapon manufacturing
@reeyuh526
@reeyuh526 11 ай бұрын
​@@lairdcummings9092unfortunately that is only true for actual French people. Best he can do is Burgundy
@TheOz91
@TheOz91 11 ай бұрын
I'm actually delighted that a gear-delayed system made it as a prototype because I had thought about what if gears are used as a delay mechanism. We may see a gear-delayed blowback yet
@Ren505nm
@Ren505nm 11 ай бұрын
Steam punk rifle.😂
@Raspredval1337
@Raspredval1337 11 ай бұрын
gear-delayed blowback system in a larger caliber sub machine gun, like 10mm would actually make sense somehow 🤔
@lairdcummings9092
@lairdcummings9092 11 ай бұрын
@@Raspredval1337Naaah. Gears increase complexity, and introduce fragility.
@tombogan03884
@tombogan03884 11 ай бұрын
Wouldn't that be the Lewis gun ?
@matrix3509
@matrix3509 11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately I don't think its ever going to be an idea that gets any legs. Gears, by their nature of operation, are a significant wear item. The entire inside of the gun will have to be covered in oil or grease (or whatever) at all times to reduce wear on the gear teeth, so will be a nightmare to maintain, and even then, the gears look to be pressure bearing parts, which will significantly accelerate their wear. Even if you could make the system cheaply, the rate at which you'd have to replace the gears as they wear out makes it not worth it, IMO.
@ml.2770
@ml.2770 11 ай бұрын
These MAT designs always grind my gears.
@adrien5834
@adrien5834 11 ай бұрын
Oh, excellent!
@SteamGeezerUK
@SteamGeezerUK 11 ай бұрын
As someone who has carried SLRs and GPMGs, I can assure you that thing is making my back ache just looking at it. That's a chonky boi... Also, as an engineer, I appreciate the design but I also want some of what the designer was smoking that day 😂
@mrmors1344
@mrmors1344 11 ай бұрын
the Keltec R&D dept would also like some of that.
@keithcarpenter5254
@keithcarpenter5254 11 ай бұрын
Puff puff pass! 😮😅😊
@phileas007
@phileas007 11 ай бұрын
I can tell why the bolt is missing: it got shattered during testing, cause that gear ratio slams it with quite some force while the system is closing.
@cyruspalmer98
@cyruspalmer98 11 ай бұрын
Seems legit
@helldad4689
@helldad4689 11 ай бұрын
This was a DECADE after World War 2. Was there no infantryman they could just... ask... about the concept of... an infantry rifle... with gears in it? I'm honestly speechless that it got off the drawing board lmao. Unrelatedly, your closed captioning is flawless, and I appreciate that very much. Thank you!
@ronaldjohnson1474
@ronaldjohnson1474 11 ай бұрын
In the 1700's, the US adopted the French model for military officers. That system was later perverted to include political appointments.
@napatora
@napatora 11 ай бұрын
"grenade spigot" invokes an image of turning the valve on a hose and a stream of grenades flying out
@Goc4ever
@Goc4ever 11 ай бұрын
One of the most complex French firearms i've ever seen in my whole existence and i'm glad to see your love for French guns monsieur Ian. Fun fact: it somewhat resemble the M1918 BAR.
@SonicsniperV7
@SonicsniperV7 11 ай бұрын
The BAR's weird French cousin from a side of the family nobody acknowledges
@geodkyt
@geodkyt 11 ай бұрын
I thought much the same, but with a twist. "You see, young Pierre, when a BAR and a Madsen love each other *very much* ..." 😂
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 11 ай бұрын
One of the Belgian BARs went on vacation in France and this was the result.
@donwyoming1936
@donwyoming1936 11 ай бұрын
I literally thought it was a French BAR by the thumbnail pic. 🤠
@stevepalpatine2828
@stevepalpatine2828 11 ай бұрын
It looks like a BAR somebody made in their workshop from blueprints that had had coffee spilled on them so he had to fill in the smudged parts.
@A_potato9772
@A_potato9772 11 ай бұрын
"now lets get back to this nightmare" This might be my favorite line from a forgotten weapons.
@onkelmicke9670
@onkelmicke9670 11 ай бұрын
Very cool. But it actually looks like the bolt carrier is gear accellerated rather than reduced.
@Crow2a
@Crow2a 11 ай бұрын
True! I have noticed the same. So it is blow back delay system.
@PetrHosek
@PetrHosek 11 ай бұрын
@@Crow2a Well, not really... First, it has a locked breech. And second, for a delayed system, one would anticipate a small movement of the bolt to be translated in a big movement of the rest of the mechanism in order to provide a lot of resistance to opening. Here it's the opposite. Actually, if the breech wasn't locked, it would be difficult to assess whether the pressure in the chamber would drive the recoil (thus providing a delay) or the other way around.
@Crow2a
@Crow2a 11 ай бұрын
@@PetrHosek Let's call it delayed short recoil because a small movement of the barrel assembly is translated in a big movement of the bolt carrier in order to provide an effective increase of inertia to delay breech opening
@PetrHosek
@PetrHosek 11 ай бұрын
@@Crow2a Sorry, but I see no sense in what you're saying.
@Crow2a
@Crow2a 11 ай бұрын
@@PetrHosek when you say "resistance", do you mean friction?
@nathanstein589
@nathanstein589 11 ай бұрын
Being a car guy first, I’ve always thought about this as a possibility in using very heavy springs for a straight blow back design but utilizing gear ratios to allow for the bolt to be easily operated nonetheless.
@krissteel4074
@krissteel4074 11 ай бұрын
Yeah there's a Peugeot steering column somewhere in the guts of it! Personally, I do find the fact there's gears in there somewhat comforting in the sense that someone with engineering experience had a big think about it. Unlike say, the AN-94 which gives me nightmares
@sir0herrbatka
@sir0herrbatka 11 ай бұрын
Gears are, in the end, a just spining lever.
@romanpetrov6069
@romanpetrov6069 11 ай бұрын
Пистолет макарова aka PM has very strong spring and simple blowback construction
@RyTrapp0
@RyTrapp0 11 ай бұрын
Yup, lifelong gearhead who's been into hot rods & motorsports as much as guns - I've always thought gears were woefully underutilized in the world of firearms(I mean, can we at least get more crackpot eccentrics using them?!). Just think of how they enable you to redirect forces in a very smooth system, you could really change the shape of a reciever and create some uniquely packaged designs. Legitimately useful? Dubious. Cool as hell? Absolutely!
@DMSparky
@DMSparky 11 ай бұрын
@@RyTrapp0the majority of autocannons and all rotary cannons use them in some form.
@TKirbyK
@TKirbyK 11 ай бұрын
Hey Ian small correction; the larger diameter gear is actually the one that turns faster than the smaller diameter gears so the bolt is really being accelerated rearward faster than the upper receiver. If you think about it, it has to work this way or else the receiver would not be able to move rearward without being stopped by the bolt. Love the channel keep up the good work.
@onkelmicke9670
@onkelmicke9670 11 ай бұрын
Just what I was about to say.
@ericmitchell985
@ericmitchell985 11 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly - it's like a lever delayed system, except it spins.
@lairdcummings9092
@lairdcummings9092 11 ай бұрын
@@ericmitchell985 Well, a gear is a wheel, and a wheel is a rotating lever, so...
@ericmitchell985
@ericmitchell985 11 ай бұрын
@@lairdcummings9092 I mean, a lever can't be a lever without rotating about a fulcrum, so all levers have to 'spin' in that sense. I just meant that it's operating on the same principle of using an accelerator to delay opening, except cooler and unnecessarily more complicated.
@onkelmicke9670
@onkelmicke9670 11 ай бұрын
More like a lever action rifle.
@smackarel7
@smackarel7 11 ай бұрын
Just trying to imagine a regular soldier try to clean and assemble this thing.
@jameljay2183
@jameljay2183 11 ай бұрын
Well in many aspect , that rifle was a prototype and wasn't adopted . Tje most important is maybe his légacy toward the MAT 49 and previous french machine gun . That machine gun , despite her complexity and cost wasn't that bad , not the way your thinking .
@TylerSnyder305
@TylerSnyder305 11 ай бұрын
I never would have guessed that this was supposed to be an infantry rifle. When I saw it my 1st thought was France wanted a BAR.
@craww1990
@craww1990 11 ай бұрын
That gun looks fantastic
@rchouser123
@rchouser123 11 ай бұрын
Serbu needs to make a geared gun now, just because he can. Watch it be awesome!
@The_PotionSeller
@The_PotionSeller 11 ай бұрын
I've been following a creator in the 3d printed gun space for awhile, he's been using a similar system of gear delayed blowback to create a semi auto, mag fed 45-70
@rebel6301
@rebel6301 11 ай бұрын
45-70? 3d printed? im not sure if that's a good idea but hey maybe the guy will prove me wrong
@rebel6301
@rebel6301 11 ай бұрын
45-70? 3d printed? im not sure if that's a good idea but hey maybe the guy will prove me wrong
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 11 ай бұрын
That’s exactly what I was thinking of. Haven’t gotten any notifications from his KZbin channel recently, do you remember the channel name?
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 11 ай бұрын
@@rebel6301last I saw about two years ago he had it cycling for a few rounds but then parts would start to break.
@georgelstuart
@georgelstuart 11 ай бұрын
I came down here to make the same comment.
@nathanswensen1183
@nathanswensen1183 11 ай бұрын
The perfect example of design engineers making hell for production engineers and machinists.
@mosteutonicus8323
@mosteutonicus8323 11 ай бұрын
I dont think the gear is really for delaying the mechanic. I believe its more for reducing the lenght of the way which the barrel has to move. The function of the gear is to transfer the back movement of the barrel to the bolt carrier, like a lever in many other recoil operated weapon. When the gear ratio is 1 to 1 that means that when the bolt carries has to move 10cm to fully cycle, the barrel has also to move same way. By changing the ratio you can reduce for example the barrel way to 5 cm and the bolt carrier would still move the same 10cm of way. In some way its similar to the madsen lmg, where the barrel moves only few cm but the loading lever moves a long distance to load a round into the chamber.
@mrturtlebobington
@mrturtlebobington 11 ай бұрын
It's a long recoil system that behaves like a short recoil system. It would be a clever way to obtain the benefits of both were it not so complex.
@michaelblacktree
@michaelblacktree 11 ай бұрын
The gear ratio will have a delaying effect, because it reduces the mechanical advantage of the barrel vs the rest of the operating system.
@mosteutonicus8323
@mosteutonicus8323 11 ай бұрын
Nobody claims that this mechanic wouldnt have a influence in delaying the movement of the barrel. I said, that the gear ratio system was not designed to be a delaying mechanism but a mechanism to reduce the required movement of the barrel and with this also the size of the receiver.
@adamcichon6957
@adamcichon6957 11 ай бұрын
Not so long ago, there was a new hunting rifle, where the same exact idea, but exactly the opposite way, was used to reduce charging handle throw of its straight pull action. Instead of delaying, bolt was in fact accelerated. The ideas aren't lost forever.
@TheDarksideFNothing
@TheDarksideFNothing 10 ай бұрын
Do you remember what gun this was?
@adamcichon6957
@adamcichon6957 10 ай бұрын
@@TheDarksideFNothing I didn't remember what was it, i had to find it... Merkel Helix.
@Frenchcrop
@Frenchcrop 11 ай бұрын
Ian, I’m super pleased to hear that you have finally nailed the pronunciation of ‘Tulle’!
@davitdavid7165
@davitdavid7165 11 ай бұрын
Honeatly i want more gears in firearms. This and the lewis are the only 2 so far
@tomaspabon2484
@tomaspabon2484 11 ай бұрын
The rate reducer on the BAR also uses a ratchet and gear system that looks like it was pulled off a pendulum clock
@wingracer1614
@wingracer1614 11 ай бұрын
He did a video on some weird prototype years ago that had a rack and pinion type arrangement in it. It was a real Rube Goldberg contraption.
@Zigfried207
@Zigfried207 10 ай бұрын
Welcome to artillery, we have a lot of gears
@danielcurtis8746
@danielcurtis8746 11 ай бұрын
That’s an interesting but incredible rifle
@Azukaae
@Azukaae 11 ай бұрын
Gears are basically continuous lever, so in a way this is a recoil operated lever delayed action
@cytokindness
@cytokindness 11 ай бұрын
Evan Jones over at the Pilotgeek channel has been attempting to develop a gear/flywheel delayed system for a 3D printed rifle! Interesting to see this old metal take on a related concept.
@jazzmaster909
@jazzmaster909 11 ай бұрын
Its French so you know there's gonna be some weird locking mechanism you've never seen before or since.
@jessebell1930
@jessebell1930 11 ай бұрын
Certainly a very unique weapon. One of many things I love about you mate is you are very quick to admit when having made a mistake. A vital characteristic for a gentleman and good teacher. Merry Christmas mate👌👍👊
@RodrigoFernandez-td9uk
@RodrigoFernandez-td9uk 11 ай бұрын
I love this channel precisely for this kind of weird stuff.
@ayyyyph2797
@ayyyyph2797 11 ай бұрын
5:05 The alt solution to non captive assembly pins: Extremely sized pin handle so it's less harder to lose
@BluntEversmoke
@BluntEversmoke 11 ай бұрын
Just me thought!
@Jason-fm4my
@Jason-fm4my 11 ай бұрын
This was ahead of it's time.
@matthewspencer972
@matthewspencer972 11 ай бұрын
It is customary for Ian's weirder finds to be described in the comments as: firearm Y crossed with firearm X. This would appear to be a BAR crossed with the steam railway which carries tourists up to the summit of Mount Snowdon.
@Del_S
@Del_S 11 ай бұрын
"Mother, can we have overly complicated gun that kind of looks like a BAR?" "I mean that's oddly specific but, oui."
@garyneilson1833
@garyneilson1833 11 ай бұрын
Just when you thought you'd seen every gun operating mechanism Ian finds another for us
@andrewallason4530
@andrewallason4530 11 ай бұрын
When I look at designs like this, Compared with a design of the same era (Stoner’s AR-10), and similarly with Browning’s 1911 compared with pistol design of even 50 years later, there are just some geniuses out there, who can totally change and radicalise an industry.
@actionjksn
@actionjksn 11 ай бұрын
I have to say that even though this was a terrible idea, this person had to be pretty brilliant to be able to come with this and make it work at all. There is a lot going on inside that thing, which is probably why they had so much trouble with it. I think it is possible to make something with this design work reliably. It obviously would not be worth it
@boriskotaras8511
@boriskotaras8511 11 ай бұрын
God, I wish to see that bolt. Ian, thank you so much.
@thatevlcanadian
@thatevlcanadian 11 ай бұрын
Odd? Absolutely. Clever? Heck yeah!
@mattelder1971
@mattelder1971 11 ай бұрын
I think the coolest thing about this rifle is that it almost seems like it was designed to perfectly balance on an ammo can for display.
@pixelrat18k95
@pixelrat18k95 11 ай бұрын
You know, this looks suspiciously like the infantry autoguns in Darktide...
@brimstonefootsteps4332
@brimstonefootsteps4332 11 ай бұрын
Along with all of his amazing knowledge, I love Ian's honesty. While looking at a collection piece from this armory and seeing the gears he says "What a nightmare"! You know you can trust a man when he speaks the truth regardless of the situation. I love this channel!
@Logovanni
@Logovanni 11 ай бұрын
So, the bolt carrier actually moves faster than the barrel assembly. The increased length on the lever arm of the center gear moves a lot faster than the smaller gears, causing the bolt carrier to accelerate. You can see this happening early on in the video through the ejection port. I’m guessing it does this to get more length of travel in a shorter package.
@runem5429
@runem5429 11 ай бұрын
I just love the crazy sht that is out there that Ian digs up for us, tnx Ian :)
@Part.No.1xbil.Prod.Tp.MXMVIII
@Part.No.1xbil.Prod.Tp.MXMVIII 11 ай бұрын
Every single inch of this gun behind the grenade projection system on the barrel made me audibly say "what??" the second Ian interfaced with it. Those "pins" made me actually rewind the video just to confirm I wasn't having an acid flashback. I'm convinced this thing was designed by a Bethesda dev.
@prdubi
@prdubi 11 ай бұрын
I'm still hoping and waiting for the day when Ian will do a complete episode in Français. That would be even more interesting.
@lorenzorighi99
@lorenzorighi99 11 ай бұрын
I think that this mechanism actually gives the bolt carrier a higher velocity than the barrel assembly, functioning in the same way as a more typical accelerator found in other recoil operated guns. I made a quick velocity analysis so I can be wrong. Some feedback?
@tonedeaftachankagaming457
@tonedeaftachankagaming457 11 ай бұрын
Saw another comment agreeing
@lorenzorighi99
@lorenzorighi99 11 ай бұрын
@@tonedeaftachankagaming457 yeah, he also changed the video title and put a correction in the description
@Ethnarches
@Ethnarches 11 ай бұрын
Definitely one of the more fascinating firearms I've ever seen! What a system, sad it didn’t go anywhere even if it's fairly obvious why it didn’t. I would have never seen this if it wasn't for Ian uncovering obscure stuff in a French government collection! Thank you Ian, that's quite a feat to get access and permission to publish these videos.
@Willy_Tepes
@Willy_Tepes 11 ай бұрын
LOL, this is actually the exact idea I was toying with when I was 17. Never knew it already existed.
@bluebird0222
@bluebird0222 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful! What a kraftwork. I really like this design.
@Serenity_Dee
@Serenity_Dee 11 ай бұрын
From the country that brought you the Renault Dauphine!
@sword_of_sanghelios
@sword_of_sanghelios 11 ай бұрын
Thats looks unrealible
@callhoonrepublican
@callhoonrepublican 11 ай бұрын
rack and pinion guns are soo cool. this video made me happy.
@discerningscoundrel3055
@discerningscoundrel3055 11 ай бұрын
This is the most French rifle I have ever seen
@zmike9831
@zmike9831 11 ай бұрын
absolutely amazing design!
@reginaldjamesmeyer7185
@reginaldjamesmeyer7185 11 ай бұрын
This is really really awesome and I have learned so much since I started watching you're channel ...... As a south african could I request a video on the Armsel Striker 12 gauge shotgun please sir
@FG-ww8rc
@FG-ww8rc 11 ай бұрын
This is one of the few firearms that you could describe as "whimsical"
@TheCoyote808
@TheCoyote808 11 ай бұрын
The guy who designed the steering components at Renault got a new job.
@Revener666
@Revener666 11 ай бұрын
Interesting, would be more useful as a base for stationary guns though, too clunky for an infantry rifle
@sauceboss3101
@sauceboss3101 11 ай бұрын
One of the guns of all time
@dieuitspan6632
@dieuitspan6632 11 ай бұрын
The rack and pinion was also trailed on the Barnitzke machine gun in germany. However, the Barnitzke was a flywheel delayed gun. How cool would it be if Ian could lay his hand on one!!
@sealove79able
@sealove79able 11 ай бұрын
a great very cool and interesting video and firearm Mr.GJ.this firearm seems quite hefty.have a good one & Merry Christmas.
@QweRty-kd8dd
@QweRty-kd8dd 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for your work ❤
@DETHMOKIL
@DETHMOKIL 11 ай бұрын
I hope ian never runs out of gendarmerie videos.
@johncox2865
@johncox2865 11 ай бұрын
I believe that this is the only gun I ever saw on your channel that I actually just don’t want.
@熊育生
@熊育生 Ай бұрын
beautiful design
@itsconnorstime
@itsconnorstime 11 ай бұрын
I didn’t have my glasses on when I saw the thumbnail and thought it was another BAR video.
@Lankythepyro
@Lankythepyro 11 ай бұрын
On the website you wrote an article about the .280 bullpup FAL made for British and NATO trials. Do you think there are any surviving specimens? The Royal Armouries don't have one, but according to Jonathan Ferguson one of the guns was sent to the US. Love your work, Ian
@paulketchupwitheverything767
@paulketchupwitheverything767 11 ай бұрын
This reminds me of the Johnny 7 OMA (One Man Army) plastic, toy gun from the '60s or '70s.
@erikbowers0776
@erikbowers0776 11 ай бұрын
Part of me is always surprised we don't see gears in more firearms designs because they have some great mechanical properties, but this design supports the rest of me that knows they'd bring more problems than solutions
@kdkerr2
@kdkerr2 11 ай бұрын
When Ian showed the rack and gears inside this rifle, I thought: "This thing is a Rube Goldberg piece of sh*t!" And Ian's conclusion more or less confirmed this.
@andredulac4456
@andredulac4456 11 ай бұрын
Damn, that rifle looks like an autogun from warhammer 40k Darktide... definitely my new favourite gun 😅
@Swindle1984
@Swindle1984 11 ай бұрын
"Gears in guns is a terrible idea." *Kraut Space Magic has entered the chat*
@widgren87
@widgren87 11 ай бұрын
Looks like a Thompson BAR hybrid and I honestly like it...
@Marc_Wolfe
@Marc_Wolfe 11 ай бұрын
It's not gear reduction. Push barrel a little, bolt moves a lot, that's an increase, like a car's overdrive gear. So no, the gear ratio doesn't delay a damn thing. Instead of relying solely on momentum of bolt carrier to keep the bolt going to the rear after unlock, it's mechanically coupled to barrel movement. Effectively long stroke recoil operated. Bet the spring up front is just a return for the charge lever and plays no other significant role.
@eisenkrieg553
@eisenkrieg553 11 ай бұрын
I've been subscribed to Ian since his awkward autistic days back in 2010. I vaguely recall that he actually has like an Associate's or Bachelor's degree in mechanical engineering. Or maybe he was trying to earn one? Anyways the misunderstanding of gearing by him is something to think about.
@isaac6705
@isaac6705 10 ай бұрын
I was going to say, you can even see from the tracks! The track on the lower is much shorter than on the upper, all this is doing is timing.
@Marc_Wolfe
@Marc_Wolfe 10 ай бұрын
He misunderstood the Benelli B76 too. I made a video about that one. That ledge is just a ramp, not a lock. The angles of links cause a speed increase; slight and brief, but it's there and adds resistance to opening.
@Zephirot080
@Zephirot080 11 ай бұрын
Top 3 in the weirdest guns you've covered for sure
@jamesdouglas8760
@jamesdouglas8760 11 ай бұрын
Festinating design looks like it's missing a zerk . Reminds me of an Erector Set project.
@Tamlinsgrove
@Tamlinsgrove 11 ай бұрын
The most dieselpunk rifle I've seen except for that Madsen assault rifle you did a video on.
@rags417
@rags417 11 ай бұрын
I can see so many ways this thing could jam and or lose pieces in use...
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 11 ай бұрын
I think you got the gear ratio "up side down". The smaller diameter moves across the stationary part which makes the larger diameter "have a greater surface speed". Which makes sense, as otherwise the whole assembly would have to move LONGER than the bolt need to travel to extract and reload. And you can verify this simply by counting the teeth on both racks: 32 vs 15. This means the bolt travels twice as fast (and thus twice the distance) as the barrel assembly does against the lower.
@alexglanowski695
@alexglanowski695 11 ай бұрын
Germany: We have some of the most complicated weapons designs France: Hold my croissant 😂
@khaelamensha3624
@khaelamensha3624 11 ай бұрын
​@@NCrdwlfThis is the real reason of the French German wars, we compete to be the absolute winner of the most complicated weapons 😂
@ethantaillefer-meyn6535
@ethantaillefer-meyn6535 11 ай бұрын
AN94, the matryoshka gun
@alexglanowski695
@alexglanowski695 11 ай бұрын
@ethantaillefer-meyn6535 That's the one with the double shot, right? (Or 2 round burst?) If so, definitely a contender 🤣
@jameljay2183
@jameljay2183 11 ай бұрын
Project SPEW dart-gun of the US army 🤔
@alexglanowski695
@alexglanowski695 11 ай бұрын
@@jameljay2183 Yeah, that whole program had some really weird stuff
@traktorsajt
@traktorsajt 11 ай бұрын
This gun has meme potential. "Maman, can we get a Colt Moniteur?" "Non mon cheri, we 'ave Colt Moniteur at 'ome!" Colt Monitor at home.
@propdoctor21564
@propdoctor21564 11 ай бұрын
Another interesting and informative video as always... Such a bizarre design which makes me wonder how someone even dreams up something like this?
@twistedsaltypretzel7727
@twistedsaltypretzel7727 11 ай бұрын
TBH am somewhat surprised this was not the result of a mad swiss watchmaker
@marcbloom7462
@marcbloom7462 11 ай бұрын
The cocking lever and barrel/barrel extension remind me of a Madsen LMG.
@ericgranata6664
@ericgranata6664 11 ай бұрын
One of the strangest firearms I've seen in a while!
@dammitjared5165
@dammitjared5165 24 күн бұрын
My Grampa taught me about delayed blowback stuff when I was a kid, and I remember arguing that it would probably work with gear-reduction stuff. He told me that it would be too expensive and hard to build, and that it would be less reliable, and also that it was likely that it had already been tried and didn't work well enough to be commonplace. And now here I sit about 30-some years later.
@onetruedodd
@onetruedodd 10 ай бұрын
Gears were actually quite common in firearms design before the crisis which precipitated the Gear Wars.
@christhesmith
@christhesmith 11 ай бұрын
Ian: "Gears in guns are a terribly bad idea" H&K G11: "Halte mein stein"
@Frurin
@Frurin 11 ай бұрын
Each time Ian says lever, I mutter to myself "wrong lever!".
@Celebmacil
@Celebmacil 11 ай бұрын
It blows my mind that this rifle and the AR-10 came out at the same time.
@stevefriswell5422
@stevefriswell5422 11 ай бұрын
Great video sir, thanks.
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