Why Did I Do This To Myself?

[@treyxaviermusic]

My songwriting course is finally HERE: bit.ly/SONGWRITINGCOURSE

[@user-tz2zz5ij1s]

And this is why producers exist. It’s easy to fall in love with your own songs and not realize that certain parts don’t need to be repeated for minutes on end, or that the song is really just a power riff jam.

[@CreativeMindsAudio]

yeah, but these are also the type of people to get mad at the producer if they change anything and fire them.

[@milkin1st]

No lie; other people listening to my stuff made me almost instantly better at writing.

[@junkawakami3193]

that or getting a little bit of knowledge on theory especially motivic development (welp, that's what my classically trained musician friend said what's "developing phrases from an idea") (in which you develop from an idea or more that still relates to the main theme).

[@Auswurkung]

To Write is Human, To Edit is Divine -Stephen King.

[@MrLionheart560]

Absolutely. It’s always good to get a second/third opinion on any song we write. It’s how we get better at our craft!

[@undeadhambread4602]

This series has been the most entertaining thing on youtube in the last 3 years....by far

[@undeadhambread4602]

@@deadtolove Agreed, it's educational, exposes artists (for better or worse), and it's comedic. The perfect combination.

[@akshatsahay9015]

Yeah this is awesome. Like genuinely I don't even need the Revv tbh I'd just enter for Trey to roast me

[@jerryfick8547]

💯

[@Metalbass10000]

This should be a regular event, like the Great Guitar Build-Off, but that would likely be Trey's blessing from his own personal hell. ... And, fuck no, I need that Revv...

[@shirestudios]

Trey i think you need to make a video about that the difference in between a RIFF and a SONG

[@treyxaviermusic]

A whole video? It wouldn’t even be 30 seconds hahaha

[@earthone777]

Make a 30 second video then. What is your definition of a song and your definition of a riff?

[@cafearga]

I get why people post instrumentals or almost complete songs that need vocals cus I do that. If you’re not confidant in vocals, but still want to show what you can do, it makes sense, but not for a song writing contest. There needs to be a song.

[@Condemned782]

Even if you don't necessarily want to sing, at least put in some interesting leads

[@user-yk4gd1fl4z]

Precious little of that stuff he played was even half ass structured for vocals yet. Just guitarists jerking off. But I agree

[@Frus77sh]

Totally agree. Feel like most of these songs would be better and make more sense as a full song if they had vocals. A verse riff without vocals is just a riff with no context that just keeps going on.

[@ericbrewerguitar1499]

I hope all you shredmeisters are listening to what Trey is telling ya! Motif, theme and variation, having actual melodies. Subtle modulations of the main concepts to create interest. He’s giving us gold here!

[@starrk7158]

as far as I've heard though. There have been no Shred Meister submissions. It's just rhythm guitar and that's it.

[@ericbrewerguitar1499]

@@starrk7158perhaps djentmeister or chugmeister would’ve been more apropos, but either way there’s no song

[@TheThePants]

As time passes my confidence dwindles hehe

[@drpibisback7680]

A lot of these songs are clearly made by people who only play guitar, because the drums never seem to have any decent fills or transitions. I know, because when I try to write drum parts that's always the part I can't do.

[@infantrymanejb358]

Yeah, I'm a drummer who writes full songs and my guitar is really lacking as far as different voicings etc for riffs, and sometimes I have a hard time coming up with transitions for chorus and verse etc.

[@MrMockigton]

@@infantrymanejb358 there is a reason a song is best written by a) a multi instrumentalist b) the whole band together

[@lxwlifx4181]

Oh boy every time I watch these my anxiety goes through the roof

[@FairyCRat]

At the Gates-core is a common name for early 2000s style melodic metalcore. Because many bands in the style were inspired by ATG riffs and blended them with the chuggy hardcore style of playing.

[@chilledpenguins8381]

I miss solid At The Gates-core

[@nosir5596]

The funny thing about it is the actual entry sounded like every melodeath band except at the gates lmao

[@astillianmike]

@@nosir5596 Agreed. Much more like early to mid era In Flames

[@AndrewSmith-lg8dj]

these are real fun videos. nice work and the 30 minute format is perfect.

[@douglascarneiro2881]

This is better than netflix, honesty hurts but it's what I'm here for

[@guitardedzach]

Damn, I gotta go back and watch all of this golden content.

[@MCMFF1]

Should've made a backing track writing contest instead, these entries would be perfect then.

[@orlock20]

Menucore

[@jerryfick8547]

Exactly 🤣🤣

[@carlosmembreno7831]

😂😂😂

[@thomascrawley99]

As someone who's trying to get into composition and learning guitar, these videos are super informative, not to mention entertaining. This is the second recommended to me i've enjoyed, earned a new sub :)

[@someoneyoudontknow3257]

I just wanted to say thanks for hosting this contest. I've learned more about making music in these past few weeks than the last 15 years of guitar playing. Before your 3rd entry video I'd never recorded on anything other than a cell phone. Been pushing my voice hard to get my vocals up to snuff...they won't be 🤣 I think I can convey the gist tho I just hope I can get my entry put together in time. 🤞 Oh and thanks to all the amazing production riff salads out there who inspired me to write a COMPLETE song 😂😂😂 Programming drums with just a mouse is gonna be my make or break. I figured how to get plugins into reaper and make the drums actually record instead of sounding like the buzzer in the Operation board game. Lyrics are done ,half the guitar parts are composed. Just got to finish composing , record an actual quality take, program drums and mix it..in 18 days.

[@orlock20]

Always go punk. Less lyrics, shorter songs and singing is not required. However punk does require a chant like groove. So far most of the contestants never heard of a groove.

[@toemasmeems]

I didn’t mean to cut the song off on my entry I just forgot the include the last few seconds but I had already sent it in and didn’t want to confuse with two entries 😣

[@thewolf6675]

Did you use live drums or a program?

[@BigDatsquatch]

I enjoyed the songwriting itself, good work. A solid mix would really bring it to life

[@toemasmeems]

@@BigDatsquatch thanks so much man I really should have put some more time into RErecording it but idk I just wanted to get it over with or I felt I might not ever do it. Better luck at 500k I suppose!

[@toemasmeems]

@@thewolf6675 for that song I used a free version of Steven Slate 5 Rock kit into the free version of Ableton Live Lite 10 which I found works great but you’re limited to 8 tracks....and that meant no clean guitars 😜

[@brasshouse-og]

That song sounded HUGE! I know he had some things to complain about but as a fellow musician I would feel like I had written a masterpiece if that was my song. It was so full and dynamic. Bug props I really like it.

[@marcelo.bassalo]

This series is so good. I hope you guys do another contest so people learn how not to suck at songwriting. And yes, I know you have a course coming soon :), looking forward to it.

[@orlock20]

Force them to cover Beth Hart, Gary Moore, Pink Floyd, Etta James, Scorpions, Def Leppard, Queensryche and any other act that puts some thought into their songs. Maybe they could write an an original in a genre such as blues, bluegrass (which is acoustic metal), folk, singer songwriter, rockabilly and country. Whatever 50 fans band the contestants are listening to get their inspiration in song writing from to cause this terror it needs to stop.

[@treyxaviermusic]

It's here! Check it: bit.ly/SONGWRITINGCOURSE

[@jamrhein2]

Ugh. I'm trying my damnedest to get my song done but I've been dealing with covid and it's made laying vocals incredibly difficult. Really hope I get to enter this competition before its over. Been loving this series though regardless. Hope after the competition ends you still roast peoples songs every now and then lol.

[@rawkinj6609]

"Nail the Mix, Not my Ears" You make me laugh so hard while the music makes me cry sometimes! Fixing our songs one burn at a time while keeping things honest! B-52's over metal is like a new style that could work!! Cheers and Rawk on!

[@stavrosguitarist2378]

Can’t wait to see if my entry is gonna be here

[@sbz8620]

Was it?

[@stavrosguitarist2378]

@@sbz8620 nope

[@milkin1st]

Looks like he’s just getting to the beginning of April’s stuff. Feel like it might take a while; I submitted mine April 18th 💔

[@sbz8620]

@@stavrosguitarist2378 ah that sucks. Hope so mate

[@FairyCRat]

@@milkin1st All the entries he went through today were sent on April 5, idk how he plans to go thru all of them, he must still have hundreds to listen to

[@Vrapcheboy]

Hey Trey, can you do tutorial on lyrics. To be more specific on conceptual lyrics. How to write them, what makes them good n bad, what to follow, how to approach ideas how to write, etc. Love yo work Cheers from Croatia \m/

[@ryanschindler923]

One of the main things is to listen to bands you like and dissect their lyrics and lyrical compositions. See how they repeat stuff and space phrases out and utilize empty space or allow it to help the song breathe. And use a thesaurus to help come up with alternate words besides the basic stuff. Good luck!!!

[@Vrapcheboy]

@@ryanschindler923 niceeee, very helpful thanks!!!! But I still think it would be good content myb to make that video? Idk just throwing ideas. Cheers :D

[@TornSoul062473]

Isn't a standard song pretty much: intro -> verse 1 -> chorus -> verse 2 -> chorus -> solo(?) -> chorus -> outro It's hard to get into songs that have 6 different riffs. It sounds very linear, where a good song brings you back around to that verse or chorus you're looking for. One of the reasons I like Adam Jones of Tool's playing is he'll often change a riff slightly on the second time through. Different arrangement of the notes, a bend on a note or using a dead note that wasn't the first time through, or playing the same thing but with a different feel. It's variation, but the song is still going somewhere and still solid.

[@shannonmitchell8515]

I think the main issue is just that these songs have repetition with no melody. Having a melody of any sort (vocals, solo guitar, keyboard, or whatever,) would at least help keep interest. Most of these would be pretty decent with some melody

[@davidnovin200]

I hope I get to see my song ripped apart. These reviews are awesome!

[@WinterhouseRecords]

Been anticipating the roast of my entry. Let’s hope today is the day 🤘

[@stavrosguitarist2378]

Same😂

[@Linchpinn]

Same lol

[@toemasmeems]

Mine was the first so I got lucky xD roasting is fun , who’d have thought

[@andrews.8905]

So low key all you really need is that melody dressing over that riff salad and your closer to that revv than most

[@gregmerritt9366]

Ya nailed that mix of entries. 🤣

[@EruditionBand]

We submitted a first take semi live song! it has words and isnt even much like our usual funky stuff we do. its dark and we left in the mistakes and everything. cant wait to hear you shit all over it lol

[@mamifero.efimero]

i appreciate the feedbaack!

[@mamifero.efimero]

Up now on all platforms (thanks distrokid). DIMAS mx - mi refugio

[@billcifer8611]

@gear gods submitted a song on friday and got a review. And im taking heed to the advice I've received. And currently working on a fresh one for this contest. Keep up the good work trey

[@AlkanetEXE]

That ATG track was sick, and fairly coherent from one riff to the next. It screamed for vocals but other than that that was an intimidating contender in my book...

[@Meccarox]

Agreed.

[@thegreenembers]

34:14 what about song 2 by blur

[@richardsteffens6159]

Can someone please give this man an actual song. My man is over here staring at the screen like a coma patient getting his eyes washed.

[@treyxaviermusic]

pls fren

[@dna1710]

Love the contest... There are really cool ideas and musicians. But how do you manage to stream all 4mins songs (+2 mn critics)... Already 265 entries ? We ll be still listening until december 😁😁

[@mistamop]

I think he’s said in the discord that not every entry will make it into a video :(

[@dna1710]

@@mistamop ok thanks. I will subscribe to his discord. Thanks

[@JusticeXFalls]

I think as guitarists we sip our own kool-aid too much. We fall in love with that one riff and end up playing it way too many times.

[@RenalDistress]

Amen dude. I have to force myself to move away from riffs I like

[@JusticeXFalls]

@@RenalDistress Same here. Lately, I've been trying to break out of my same old writing style I've even gone a far as to write in completely different genres that force me to think outside the box.

[@ThisIsHaizeel]

*continue to working on my song in full nervousness*

[@OliChristenDrew]

Man, your dedication knows no limits..!!

[@toemasmeems]

But honestly I’d pay to have your critiques more often this is what i miss from my one year at music university (before the world went to shit) thanks for the tips I would definitely try following the root notes of the chord progression next time.

[@dresdensinn6669]

Your submission had a very Black Metal feel to it...I liked it!

[@treyxaviermusic]

I do them every Friday Mimzy, come thru

[@toemasmeems]

@@dresdensinn6669 thanks brother! I love all styles of metal and try to blend as much as I can tastefully so hell yeah! I recently discovered Keith Merrow and I feel he does the same thing and sort of look up to him so much...to bad he deleted his KZbin

[@toemasmeems]

@@treyxaviermusic I’ll see ya then!!

[@marcherwig8060]

So what have we learned? Skill does not equal ability to write a SONG.

[@jacktripperthemusical]

Exactly.

[@rmp5s]

100%

[@A.Moortal]

How do you like that podmic for vocals? I just got one and I'm really diggin it!

[@mamifero.efimero]

Up now on all platforms (thanks distrokid). DIMAS mx - mi refugio

[@bigkid757]

The edits on these videos crack me up. The stream deck lyrics were a little wordy 😂

[@BtBsGuitarGuru]

Working on my entry! Might cut it close, but it'll be done!

[@jonathancurtis3438]

Hey Trey, did you receive my entry? I think I submitted around the beginning of April. I just wanted to make sure it got sent correctly. Thanks for putting on this contest!

[@The_PlagueDoctor]

Album contest next? I could watch these for days

[@radthibideaux9978]

i've noticed with my own stuff, i repeat riffs more than they need to make space for where the vocals would go, then cut stuff shorter when the vocals actually go in and the sections sound too long even with. maybe its a bit of the same thing with some of these tracks

[@lexingtRick]

You checked inside some amazon products pedals, but would you check the Angry Charlie, or the Boss Angry Driver?

[@Oilid]

I 💖 this series coz it's very educational AND funny!

[@Oilid]

@@tophertaylor69 🙏

[@adambailey890]

As someone who is predominantly a vocalist these days, i just wanna put vocals on half of these tracks and send them into you to see the difference :')

[@consumer365]

We got one coming for you. We have no business entering a contest but I'm not scared!

[@joshhiroti]

Actually quite enjoyed that first tune

[@toemasmeems]

Thanks Josh 🙏

[@brasshouse-og]

Trey is going to hate the Winner. For me the best has been that song called Wanderer from one of the earlier videos.

[@musicman9901]

@Gear Gods Since this is a song writing contest and there is a lot of criticism of things missing, do you have any videos discussing how to arrange and compose a song or is there a good resource you'd suggest? I can analyze my favourite songs ad nauseam to see what the song structure is but Im interested in the mindset and the creative process deciding how many verses or what order to place parts in etc. Basically, Id like to learn more about song structure and different ways to arrange songs. Thanks for any response!

[@orlock20]

There is Skill Share, KZbin videos and if you are in a rush for a song there is Fiverr.

[@musicman9901]

@@orlock20 Thanks! I will probably check out skill share sometime soon and I regularly watch videos on youtube, just wondered if there was a specific teacher, book, or videos that anyone has found particularly helpful when it comes to arranging a song.

[@NexusLives]

34:17 I mean you got Blur Song 2 and Stone Sour song #3, Soooo it's not that far out there.

[@jcrocks19]

Damn Dennis @ 12’ min so fucking good holy shit

[@PhilippeArantesTina]

I will submit my song at the end of this week. I hope you like nu metal =} and there's vocals in it

[@masheen_]

How many days are left? I'm literally down with the sickness and don't have the energy to work on my song atm. Thanks.

[@architectofhorror6714]

I sent one today knowing you are going to say its just riffs, but im proud of it lol. Grindcore/Slam feel

[@whiskeysoul89]

So much potential in so many songs without vocals!!! 😩

[@rogerwalker2224]

What I learned watching him critique: He has an 8 second attention span, so you'd better change something up fast, but let it breathe, but make sure it develops, don't rush it, but hurry up and get to it, don't repeat but have a theme, embellish the theme each time you play it, mix it well but this is not a mixing contest.

[@Meccarox]

Lmao, Trey is hard to please.

[@LOLOLOL1ish]

Literally lmao

[@apoplexiamusic]

i honestly have the same short attention span, and everytime he feels it starts to drag i feel the same at the exact same part. That's one of the many tricky aspects of writing music. You make riffs that are sick, but then probably out of fear of not being able to follow up an awesome riff with a better riff, you just end up rinsing and repeating the riff more than it should be there. I've done that, so many times, also failing to add something new upon each repetition of a riff. That really goes a long way.

[@JakkedDog]

Hmmm almost as if it's a song writing contest or something and not a shred demo competition

[@carlosmembreno7831]

@@JakkedDog right!

[@icestorm_rb9057]

Return of the Riffs salads should be the next episode title or something if the riff salads just keep coming

[@GeoOoo7]

dennis pretty much wrote sleepwalking by bmth in another key and "cherubim has arrived" riff part is the same as flatline by periphery in another key

[@mmaviator22]

1 of the biggest problems I have seen from the majority of submissions is that most people have no idea how to let a song "breath" and think they need to have something playing the entire time. And that results in completely dynamic less noise at that point.

[@kingconfusion2295]

Still trying to get my entry finished!

[@dominicspizzirri4399]

I made it! Holy cow it felt like forever ago (just a month) I wrote that. Thanks man. That feedback is necessary and incredible.

[@MechaKG]

those facial expressions almost looked pissed are hilarious! hahaha oh... riffs.-_____-

[@tattooedwriter]

Trey, are you going to react to *every* entry on KZbin, or just a select few?

[@tylertownsend4074]

He’s only gonna post some of them

[@stratdax4028]

An instrumental is more than just writing a regular song and not bothering to put lyrics in! Too bad because some of these songs could have worked with a singer. An instrumental that works is structured differently. How are people not getting this yet!

[@xneurianx]

If you are going to write instrumental music, listen to instrumental music and pay attention to how the space is filled. A lot of these tracks and dialling it back specifically to make space for verse vocals, but then not filling the gap with anything. If you're going to follow verse/chorus patterns when writing an instrumental, you're probably going to run into problems. Expand on your ideas, write variations. "What it I changed the rhythm up a bit?" "what if I did something harmonically different, like changing the chord progression under the line?" Keep asking what if. Your song ends when your desire to continue making permutations on your theme stops. If you can't be bothered to develop the idea during an instrumental, people aren't likely to want to keep listening. You can go back to the great riff you've written as long as you provide something new. It doesn't even have to be a lot - even a pad synth in the background subtley changing the harmonic structure can do wonders.

[@SeagoGuitarist]

Bro, thanks for shouting out my band, cumdown. We're not actually a fully conceived band yet. So, not sure how you even know about us. Your fingers obviously on the pulse. You'll have to wear protection at our gigs, because our vibrational substance will be viscous. Please help me I can't stop with the innuendo 😭🚫😂✌✋❤ Our band is gunna be so spunky. 👀💪Alright, I've finished now. 😅

[@danarchism-dissident]

Trey, just give this guy the amp... He's clearly earned it here

[@baconfirre]

I must have missed the news, but what is the deadline for this now?

[@rockandrolleracdc]

Do the same thing again but add something or take something away. I heard you say that before and I apply it a lot not, really helped me and my songwriting 🙏🏻 thanks

[@Ashleyraji]

@30:59 Yes sir it is actually just one drum and one guitar track !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Ashleyraji]

thanks a lot to feature me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am sooo happy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@PeacewiththeGraces]

I didnt get AILD for the At The Gates core, but August Burns Red and im ALLLLLLLLL about it.

[@mamifero.efimero]

Well, is up now at all platforms as DIMAS - Mi Refugio

[@bryscorpio]

My new favorite you tube videos......Love this shit....some really cool stuff actually...and some not so much. A lot of people don't realize, but I know you do, that even as bad as some of these are, AND HOLY SHIT wow lol, Each one is from someone's heart and it means something to them and they actually think it rocks...it takes guts to put your stuff out for others to critique.. But keep critiquing! So funny..

[@SMCRecordingStudios]

ok. now I'm going to submit. this will be good

[@guitar_nerd]

Can I still enter the riff contest?

[@CoenBijpost]

Just listened to Pelican for the first time. The best name for that genre is “elevator metal”, I think! It’s not so bad. Somebody has to create background music for metal television shows and commercials…

[@Vovich24]

But what song was in the outro?🤔

[@deathmetalmax4321]

Hey! So I have a song structured out, and lyrics writ up. I don't have computer experience really, I do everything on my phone. Before I send it to you, I want to clean it up a little, add drums, add bass, add lead, and add vocals. I may end up sending you what I have if I can't figure out how to do all that before times up. I have something I can send you RIGHT NOW but I'd much rather send you the finished product. I got 4 friends opinions, they say.. it does not sound like a riff salad, that it is the structure for a good song. Hence my comment on why it'll take me a few more days to a week to submit it (cut off is still the 22nd of this month yeah??? No cutting it short surprises? Just making sure lol

[@Dimas5]

When is the deadline?

[@jameshisted]

Just realized I already watched this when I wasn't signed in. Damn, thought it was a new one!

[@ambiention]

When is the actual deadline?

[@imprintchad]

Has the deadline been announced?

[@VictorCanPlay5150]

When is the deadline?!? I need more time

[@BrentODell]

What's the deadline? I feel like I missed the video where 200k was officially passed.

[@joshuawalterzemaitis7130]

at this rate the series will go on til 2022 🈲

[@superhydroyeast]

Trey is so nice about all of these despite having to listen to like 100 hours of instrumental music while just begging to hear some vocals the entire time.

[@pattysmusic524]

What is the official date that this song would be due? Is it the 23rd of May?

[@penttikoivuniemi2146]

I think you were a little too harsh on Take Two, it definitely sounds like it needed a vocal track, but it also just wasn't a pile of riffs. There were ideas and motifs that were repeated and developed over time and the parts fit together... So I'd call it a proper song. Just not finished lol.

[@tuckerdawson]

I’ve never even heard of Pelican until Trey mentioned it 😂

[@therandomsurfer101]

Until when I can I still submit a song?

[@blakecurtis7809]

Where the f@ck is the grind? No filth, no noise. All this pristine pansy melodies because"MODERN". What happened to having a little grit in metal. There were no blast beats, no vocals at all, no aggression. Being a grind and death metal drummer of 20+ years I still go back to older albums. And luckily I do find some newer underground stiff online. But it seems the metal of today is a bunch of smooth skin pretty boys that live inside of laptops. Go out, get wasted, break some windows and get in a fight. Get some anger in your music. I will wait.

[@orlock20]

But these contestants can do a pentatonic scale run at 300+ bps. These contestants and the ones Glenn had on his channel are the reason I'm not into modern metal. I'm into modern blues such as Beth Hart, Samantha Fish, Joe Bonamassa, No Sinner, Southern Avenue, The Heavy, Vintage Trouble... They have the lyrics, singing ability, guitar solo, traditional instruments and originality with each song. Some of them can even change up their songs.

[@toemasmeems]

I actually predominantly write that sort of style but I figured Trey wanted “modern and proggy” and I went with that. I would normally do straight death metal though.

[@hooliganstreet]

I’m trying really hard to get my entry done. Been short on time but I’m doing my best 😂. Man my entry is so gonna get smoked

[@Sinisterbvnny]

So, what day does it officially end?

[@TheMerc1950]

I feel like I should just sit down and write lyrics for all of these! Some real bangers if they had vocals over top!

[@cobrasys]

Same.

[@Azjedi13]

what day is the deadline?

[@DocturNull]

My only contribution is that Pelican is a great band, and they actually do have songs with vocals. They're just one of those bands that's hard to figure out because they never really do the same thing often. Like a lot is instrumental, but suddenly you'll have a song pop up with vocals, they do different kinds of feels for each album, yes with a recurring sense of their sound, but y'all know what I mean. Some albums might be more stoner rock feeling, some almost post rock, some that are doom, or even almost drone metal. Moral of this insignificant bit of info, is that seeing a band once live does not represent entirely who they are, and indefinitely. It's also not super responsible or good for the industry, or good for the metal world's reputation for elitism, which I know you aren't being elitist, but still. To tell people that they suck just because of /one/ bad concert experience /you/ specifically had and didn't find more stuff later from them, or possibly even attempt to look for anything else from them and base your opinion on that alone to a wide audience is just kinda shitty to do. Imagine someone seeing one of your videos with more reach than you that they didn't like, and decided all of the videos are bad and told their audience that. I know it's a lot, but just food for thought, I guess.

[@treyxaviermusic]

just one man’s opinion, no reason to take it any more seriously than that

[@DocturNull]

@@treyxaviermusic I totally understand that, and I know you said that in the video too. I enjoy this series and a lot of your other videos, just saying you have a big platform to be saying one band sucks because of a concert you went to and nothing more. Not a serious thing, as much as I feel it should just be a more mindful thing, for whomever may come across these, and for the community. If it ain't your thing from your experience that's fine, I just don't feel like with a big audience it should just be flat out stated that they suck and what their music is, of you haven't looked into anything beyond it. Basically just saying no need to tell people specifically a band sucks no matter what with no real context other than a show. People are gonna like what they like, and people with a larger presence on the internet, especially in the metal world, and about bands that may not have as much reach, in my opinion just should be left to figure out to other people. If you're gonna be specific about what you don't want to hear, there's other ways than just cutting down one band you saw live once. You weren't a dick about it really, I just thought why pigeonhole a singular band based on one thing, instead of using that /one time/ as an example and simply expanding on it like most other channels by saying just that. It's not a representation of the band itself and you didn't look into them more, just that experience just wasn't your thing. Not just flat out saying they suck, and repeatedly, as a channel dedicated toward metal music. There's enough elitism in the metal world as is, even little things like that can be spun into more, you know that. Idk, I'm not a Pelican fanboy or anything like that just getting all whiney about "my favorite band," just one of the many bands I enjoy listening to, and feel like the metal community, and the world as a whole, needs less "opinion based facts" if that makes any sense. I mean of course you do you, you've got to where you're at for a reason, just a point I felt should be made

[@stratdax4028]

So far I think that 15 year old from a couple videos back is the winner

[@orlock20]

The Black Widow one or the song right after it? My vote is obviously for Black Widow. Hook lines matter.

[@spiritdetectived6006]

Does anyone know the exact deadline? I know he said 30 days after he hits 200k, which I assume would make it the 23rd? I just wanna have a concrete idea.

[@spiritdetectived6006]

@@tophertaylor69 thank you!

[@hooliganstreet]

The song that starts at 11:32 would be my favored to win if it was longer cause that was 🔥🔥