Rhino goes BIM? VisualARQ overview

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VisualArq is a great tool for Architects who want to enhance their Rhino functionality by introducting BIM - like tools to the workflow! It also makes Rhino able to read Archicad and Revit files (though IFC format).

[@DesignGoBrr]

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[@thigsagain]

I’ve been using VA for 2-3 years. Work in set design in film & tv and while I often work with organic shapes, the section and levels functionality alone have justified the price. We work fast and incorporation of these tools makes a huge difference

[@mutarq]

I'd used VIsualArQ a few times and I find its automatic sections and plan views extremely useful.. even without using the bim styled objects.. just plain rhino geometry. You can save hours and hours. of "making 2d views" and "section"... (And they add some custom viewstyles to rhino also.. ).. Just great even without using BIM

[@DesignGoBrr]

That's honestly mostly how I'd be using it...

[@dutubenbenutzer9]

there actually are a few preset objets/styles, but you need to use a visualarq template to use them. one thing i found really cool about it is it's integration with grasshopper, not only can you create stuff like walls from grasshopper, you can also parametrically define objects like colums or furniture with grasshopper the same way you use the family editor in revit. and last but not least, the menu were you set the levels of the building is really handy for modelling, it handels you cplane and clipping plane at the same time and basically allows you to use rhino like the 2d-views of revit.

[@DesignGoBrr]

(I hate how you model things in Revit - it makes all spaces so much more "stacked like pancakes" if that makes sense..) but with that out of the way - all things that you noted are really great to know. I'm adding a heart to your message to have it above the rest. Also now when you say it - it does make sense that the preset styles would be packaged inside of a template rather than the plugin itself. Still would be pretty hard to even think about checking it for a beginner.

[@spaciotechtonics]

@@DesignGoBrr If you have access to this template, can you show us a video on this and maybe on how it improves the VisualARQ workflow?

[@khulagukhan]

This is beyond awesome for real

[@Sibbi1982]

Great as always! I am already using visualARQ for some years, for me it is a game changer. Also in combination with grasshopper, twinmotion,... You get really fast awesome results! Francesc Salla and his team do also give awesome support if you step into some problems. No need for the "big boys". So without further ado let's jump right into it,... 😄 Cheers

[@DesignGoBrr]

Oh such a nice comment - I'm starting to think that VisualARQ has the best community out of all CAD softwares!

[@JahKubRu1]

@@DesignGoBrr probably You are right ;] maybe varq is not perfect (like varq users community) but its helpful. I saved a lot of time with this plugin and i cant wait for version 3. the cool thing but only when You are doing documentation in rhino is that You can set every section/view/etc to layout and You can add dimms directly on layout so You dont have to create and nest 2d layouts. and somehow 2d layouts can have ugly curves, exploded, or unfinshed lines while your views set on layout include 100% objects. But usually at work i have to give a autocad file so the 2d exports always look like $hit in autocad because it will be splajn or explodede polylines with many many points and icant do to much with that while in rhino polyline was build with lets say 5 or 6 points (2 joined arcs) ehh. have You tested plugin/app like this? speckle.systems/tag/rhino/ i am wondering maybe that can export polylines like i would like them to see in acad. if i understand correctly its something like rhino inside revit but for autocad?

[@piusmacharia1596]

I checked - everything is clean

[@ahmedalalem9824]

Salute!

[@TurkiAlhouti]

yes more plz

[@pranayama99]

I just can't understand that VisualArq is not available for Mac users! There are millions of mac-Rhino users and they don't have access to one of the most powerful and affordable architectural software. I certainly hope that the people at VisualArq will finally put this on their schedule. PLEASE make this a priority!!

[@jannovotny2737]

perfect videos man, but if i can give you advice, you should a little bit ancrease sound quality sometimes (start of the video)

[@DesignGoBrr]

Oh I have a whole damn story about this... Let's just say - from now on the audio quality is going to be much higher because I have a steel wire tied to the microphone arm on one end and to my computer case on the other end. Static accumulation is such a crappy thing to deal with.

[@blerg]

Would love to see more :) Have been going in and out of Rhino+Revit to generate drawings, dimensions, etc.

[@DesignGoBrr]

Alrighty - noted!

[@paoloravelli4198]

i am in trouble between to upgrade archline (similar archicad) or to switch to rhino +visualarc. I would get: 1- is it possible to put easily window in the corner btw two walls? 2. is it possible to insert a window that has no rectangle or circle shape? 3. is a tools in visualarq to import a topographic survey? 4. i can not remember ehether it is possible to define slab layers thanks a lot. paolo

[@DesignGoBrr]

I'd suggest downloading the 90 day free trial version of it ant testing it out :) Will be much better than getting an answer via text.

[@Constantinesis]

VisualArq has been around for ages. I thought there`s some new built-in feature of Rhino.

[@gabrielegelfofx]

Vectorworks and Archicad are the two best BIM software, but Grasshopper + VisualARQ is a game changer also for Revit users. I'd like to see from you some tutorials of GH + VisualARQ.

[@spider007able]

more In-depth videos please

[@spaciotechtonics]

Hi, Thank you for the great video. Does Rhino form your entire software workflow in your practice or you use Revit as well? If you use any BIM software, do you see VisualARQ replacing it?

[@DesignGoBrr]

I do use Revit from time to time - but most of the work that I do is indeed contained in Rhino (my collogues are working 50% Rhino and 50% ArchiCAD though, so it's a matter of preference.) For me personally VisualARQ drops the need for external BIM software almost to 0 (our engineers who use Revit/ArchiCAD would still insist that we use the models in native BIM formats, but that applies only for large-scale buildings)

[@spaciotechtonics]

@@DesignGoBrr By native BIM formats, you mean IFC or Revit/Archicad?

[@DesignGoBrr]

@@spaciotechtonics Well I want to say Revit/Archicad simpl because we never tried sending an IFC to them to see what kind of reaction we'd get. Perhaps they would be ok with it.

[@boassiciel]

Hello, thanks for the video. Since last year i'm looking for some plug-in to generate interior design documentation. Do you think that it is worth to use? Every plan, section or carpenter's documentation i made by command "make2d". could it be game changer? Im not talking about presentation (visualization, material variants), just about documetation. Thanks a lot

[@DesignGoBrr]

You'll need to spend a bit of time learning how to use it properly (which of course makes sense) , but once that's done and you've found the level of "integration" that works best for you - I think it will speed up your design documentation process at least by 1.5x (honestly I think it's closer to 2x) , so yes - I do think it's worth it. But definitely use the 90-day free evaluation version first, before spending any money. You need to make sure that you "vibe" with the new workflow.

[@boassiciel]

It sounds convincing. Thank you for the advice and your channel

[@oh0stv]

So is this software able to read out masses. Like the area of the cladding, or the volume of the insulation in certain walls? I mean can you use this for actual BIM stuff or is it just for adavenced and automated 3D modelling?

[@DesignGoBrr]

To my knowledge - you would need to open up Grasshopper for calculations/simulations , but at that point - the sky is the limit. At least that's how I saw early-stage BIM being done at ZHA

[@oh0stv]

@@DesignGoBrr Nice, you been working with Hadid before? I always wondered how they managed to build those kind of shapes without proper tools. Even two angled walls and a sloped roof producing complicated intersections, not to mention the free shapes or her.

[@oudekraal7460]

nice content and will cross link however in places the audio voice has a bass line that sounds like noise.

[@DesignGoBrr]

Yup, my microphone was on it's last leg. I have a new one now though - so all future videos should be fine

[@lobbyboy8490]

Sorry I basically know nothing about BIM software, this question may sound stupid, does visualARQ work in a similar way with rhino inside revit?

[@DesignGoBrr]

Hmmm - technically if you just look at the functionality - there are quite a few similarities in the way you work with the two plugins/addons. Basically Rhino.Inside.Revit doesn't really introduce any additional functionality on Rhino side, but rather makes a real-time bridge between your Rhino model and Revit model. So all BIM related stuff happens in Revit. With VisualARQ - all "BIM" stuff happens inside of Rhino, so it's fully contained and there technically is no need for any additional external software (at least for small/medium scale architecture)

[@flourishomotola5306]

I don't know which is better? This or Rhino.Inside.Revit plugin. Great video. Thanks for sharing.

[@DesignGoBrr]

I will do a Rhino.Inside.Revit course in a few weeks :) so you'll be able to decide which one you like better~

[@flourishomotola5306]

@@DesignGoBrr Many thanks big bro 🙏🏿💜.

[@Salmanazar_]

What is your global opinion on this software ? Is a cool tool to work with ? Do you have any conclusion after few years of working with it ?

[@DesignGoBrr]

It has same limitations as any other BIM software such as Archicad or Revit - standartized/typical architectural geometries are easy to make and documentation of them is straight forward, but the moment you want to do something a bit more... non cartesian - it starts becoming a hassle. I'd say I use VisualARQ for 20-30% of my work, the rest is handled by just Rhino+Grasshopper

[@malicealice6346]

0:03 why did this feel like you were flirting with me? :o ...and why did i enjoy it? thank you for the introduction, haven't heard from visualarq before.

[@DesignGoBrr]

I'd say most of it is my creaky evening voice

[@donovanstaab]

How did you add a scale to your rhino viewport? Ty😊

[@donovanstaab]

Wait nvm that’s a feature lol

[@DesignGoBrr]

There you go, figured it out by yourself :D

[@ZeeDeveel19]

Interesting. But I will still have to stick to just ARCHICAD for now. While valuable and producing many exciting results, the Rhino + grasshopper live connection with ARCHICAD is often surplus to most Architect's needs.

[@DesignGoBrr]

I'll be investigating Rhino to Archicad bridge spring 2023 :)

[@Trash_Skater]

... love the part were you were trying to dock the window... and you responded with, its not visualarq its rhino. That is literally always the problem

[@DesignGoBrr]

I don't know why, but I always get messed up with window docking in Rhino... I have seen that they are rebuilding the whole UI arrangement system in Rhino 8, so that's gonna be cool..

[@harshkumar5140]

Rhino visual arq how to download tell me sir thanks🙏🙏🙏

[@DesignGoBrr]

www.visualarq.com/download/

[@archist9789]

It's not VisualARQ. It's VisualBURQ....it's full of bugs... Our office has stopped using it just in a few month. If you guys are interested in it, just wait one year until next version will be released. New version will come together with Rhino 8. Current version is totally half-baked one.

[@DesignGoBrr]

Hmm could you please list some of the bugs that you've encountered so that the community can know what to expect and make a decision if they are a deal-breaker for them? And also we're talking about VisualARQ 2 right?

[@archist9789]

@@DesignGoBrr Yes. I'm talking about VA 2. You should check the bugs in VA 2 yourself. They are not a few. If you go to VisualARQ session of Rhino Forum, you can see what and how many bugs have been appeared so far. You can use search tool on the top left of your screen. Just type VisualARQ 2.1 2,2, 2.3~2.12 and you can find out release note of each release. You can see thousands of bugs have been so far in VA 2 Big problem with VA is fixing bugs by the developers have made new another ones again and again over and over. This is crazy vicious circle. I do not trust their skills as programming engineers. Honestly, I think same problem will still go on in the next version, VA3 as well.

[@SilasDrewchin]

I have found there are a lot of very strange bugs as well. Randomly lose visual arq panels and items in my drawings. Text gets huge and choppy. So many random bugs. Latest version and latest version of Rhino 7

[@mdrajibulhoque2789]

any ways to crack visual arc

[@DesignGoBrr]

Ew

[@nascentnaga]

TIL its not a subscription

[@DesignGoBrr]

It indeed is not.

[@Bilangumus]

The price is to high ....

[@DesignGoBrr]

What would be a fair price in your opinion?

[@Bilangumus]

@@DesignGoBrr Well it is cheap for students so i can't complain. The problem is that with all those paid plug-ins for rhino combined, it becomes expensive. For example is use; Ameba for Topology optimization, then Peregrine for Structural optimization wich is the same as Ameba but more refined towards structures, and if you put VisualARQ on top, it will be to much for independants i think. But the revolution will begin when Rhino will integrate all of those into the main software.

[@DesignGoBrr]

@@Bilangumus They won't.. Their fillets have been a mess since Rhino 4 , RecordHistory has been a hot mess since it came out and so on.. Addons will stay being addons.

@@DesignGoBrr does Rhino has any plugin wich does record history better ?

[@archist9789]

Yes, it's very expensive for its functionality. Very very expensive !! Every Rhino related-third-party plug-ins has same problem. (Not because their functionality is good enough, but because the developer's team size is very small.)

[@shynnsup8383]

800 USD 'will no destroy your wallet' @_@

[@DesignGoBrr]

For students it's actually 95 USD , but if you're a professional, working as an architect - no, I'd argue that 800 USD should not destroy your budget. If it does, the question would be - how can you afford Rhino in the first place (1000 USD) ? And just for sake of the pricing argument - Revit (7625 USD/3years), Autocad (5315 USD / 3years) or ArchiCAD (2250 USD / 1 year).

[@shynnsup8383]

@@DesignGoBrr I was thinking more of an individual/freelancer rather than an architecture studio. $800 is a big load of money for most people, specially for freelancers. Or even people who have a full-time job. I don't know if mentioning even pricier stuff is a good argument to say something is cheap. But sure, a Ferrari is worth millions, so not sure how any car below that can wreck your wallet. Moreover, I don't think comparing Rhino to VisualARQ is fair. For only 200$ less I would expect VisualARQ to do everything Rhino can do, basically be a program on its own. When it basically does things a GH def can already do. Basically, Rhino enables you do stuff instead of drawing on paper for $1000. You can create stuff and get your money back with it. Visual Arq enables you to speed up a little only 1% of what Rhino can do for 80% of its price? No thanks. I rather buy another Rhino license and pay someone else, maybe in Rupees.

[@DesignGoBrr]

@@shynnsup8383 Catia would be the Ferrari - the software that I listed is more of a Honda Civic. Either way - that's besides the point. I see what you're trying to convey - and I do agree with parts of it. It really depends on the amount of work that you need to cram in a work day. If you're a freelancer, who has a single client at any given time and does not need to rush - then clearly you do not see the need for this type of addon. At the same time, you're most likely not generating enough money to make the purchase "not hurt". But if you have numerous projects running at the same time, squeezing every minute out of the day - then cutting the design documentation time in half is a life-saver. Coincidentally - then the price tag is not scary. What I'm saying is - it will not break the wallet for those who actually can get a use out of this addon.

[@NonLethalGhost]

@@DesignGoBrr It depends on where you work Gediminas, here the highest salary for an architect is about 619 USD, not the mention the juniors. So I basically just bought the Rhino student license when I was a student and thanked god it can also be used for commercial work.

[@DesignGoBrr]

@@NonLethalGhost naturally the purchase strength of people fluctuates between countries. The question is - where would you, as a developer position your products pricing? According to Switzerland purchasing power, according to Congo's purchasing power? Perhaps an average then? Average of every country or the ones that statistically use Rhino more than Autocad/Sketchup? "What is too expensive" becomes a very blurry question very quickly

[@Serbo-Greek]

Not bad at all, but as soon you want to go creative, or render in Lumion then you're starting to have some problems. But VisualARQ team was kind to answer my questions when I was trying the software, and listened to some issues. They will try to find solutions for the issues.

[@DesignGoBrr]

Lumion. Ew.

[@Serbo-Greek]

@@DesignGoBrr It is great when you can make money really fast! There is no better.

[@bravelittletoaster3439]

"floor slabby"

[@DesignGoBrr]

official term btw