Gee, I Wonder why Gen Z has no Patriotism?!

Funny how "patriotism" is often tied to how much society does for YOU!
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[@dagrumblers]

Gen-Z here, and I have to say this; Those who hate me and want me gone do not deserve my support.

[@WrathKing47]

Amen 🍻

[@Swanjeff12]

And those who want me ruined and dead do not deserve my mercy and forgiveness

[@dagrumblers]

@@Swanjeff12 Preach.

[@rjesterie]

These feelings also hit gen x

[@leekah9981]

Same here, Early Gen Z and I seen so much hostility against my generation, why should I be patriotic to a nation that hates me ?

[@cellulanus]

I'm a patriot. But I'm patriotic for a country that no longer exists.

[@duncanharrell5009]

Same here.

[@genestone4951]

YES. That is where leaders like George Washington come from. Our age is the age of destruction and eventual rebirth. Whatever the next Nation is, we should make sure its built by the correct people.

[@Bludgeta9001]

Same

[@sasi5841]

Same, which one is yours? Mine is Eastern Roman Empire

[@duyas1628]

Prussia

[@mrguiltyfool]

From Canada, millennial male here. Why would i love a nation that actively try to destroy me

[@KingFlameHawk]

Same.

[@dermagnus8482]

Same in germany. I am a real german. Let illegals, feminists and rainbow people fight their fights. Not longer me.

[@RiptoGakt]

Likewise. I haven't even asked that one older cousin of mine what his opinion of choosing to serve in Canada's Armed Forces would be, but the fact he had a dog around the times I recall him still serving kinda has me suspecting he'd be saying "no" to that if pressed. Can't say I'm too keen on serving or doing anything for my home country in its current state considering their current "priorities" thus far.

[@masterofmayhem2278]

@@RiptoGakt Sorry that your cousin fought to protect the CIA's poppy fields so they can traffic opium.

[@8bitdragoninstall182]

lol I don’t love this country by any means. 😂 just because I’m here doesn’t mean I give a fuck about this place that wants me dead. Also a millennial.

[@philosopherkingzant2037]

"No one wants to work" Wow, employers. I send in job applications and no one wants to interview applicants *No one wants to hire

[@Krysnha]

Not only in murica, everywere, i live in Uruguay in latin america, and i have sned like a billion cv to public and private and no one wants to hire funny thing is i send and dont even bother to send a reply, you would be surprise how everywere has the same problem, no one want to hire, then you dont have experience and you cant apply because they want experience, and as you get old, you cant apply to job because age, ending that you cant apply to anything because time no one hire, worst is that even in suppose junior work they ask for experience and knowledge dign of a senior. And then they ask why no one want to figth or work, why working i see the goverment give money to useless people that didnt even bother to study or even learn to read

[@nightwishfan1991]

This is the strange thing about the post pandemic job market. Back in 2019 this was not a problem, then the lockdowns happen. We keep hearing these companies say that "no one wants to work." But with how bad the economy is now I know plenty of people that will take even basic work. Plenty of people trying to find a job. And yet we hear from these companies all the damn time. Somebody is lying. So which is it? Do people not want to work or is there this strange hiring freeze everywhere that they would rather be understaffed than hire anyone else?

[@leekah9981]

​@@Krysnhasame here in Malaysia, I just graduated and sent so many resumes and they never called me and those that did told me that they already have someone better or that I am so green that I am a liability. What's the use?

[@jimbothegymbro7086]

Same deal in Australia, thank god the unemployment funny money is decent here

[@DARKthenoble]

@@leekah9981 I'd tell you to start a company, but you probably have the same problem we have here in the USA. Where they'd just sue you into the dirt if you tried to start anything that's a net positive for society where you'd be competing with their big business. If suing doesn't work, that's usually when they try to scare you with the law. And if that doesn't work it usually escalates straight to the hitman.

[@COUNTVLAIDMIR]

When your military vets tell the younger gen to not enlist in the army, there is something seriously wrong in your country RGE.

[@ayanned]

Never gonna fight for feminists that won't serve the front lines and LGBTs that predate the sons of men left behind.

[@mattbrown5511]

I'm one of those "boomer" Gen-X guys tell the young men AND women not to enlist either as an enlisted rank or officer.

[@PopeMetallicus]

I'm an Afghan vet, and when the MARINES are telling ppl this country isn't worth a shit, you know it's bad.

[@ayanned]

@@PopeMetallicus while you were finding osama in the mountains the LGBT targets your children in schools sex deviancy indoctrination and feminists putting ideas on your wife's head to empower herself by cheating and divorcing your for some chad.

[@ayanned]

@@PopeMetallicus while you were looking for osama in the mountains the LGBT+ targets your children in schools sex deviancy indoctrination and feminists putting ideas on your wife's head to empower herself by cheating and divorcing your for some chad.

[@thechuckjosechannel.2702]

Gen Z here. I will never fight for a country that hates my guts. Im proud to celebrate independence day.

[@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778]

yeah why does anyone want to fight for people that say they want to get rid of you completely and your evil from birth. The modern left are just the new fascists.

[@denkerbosu3551]

Yeah, the country is the people, but the state ruined over half of it (especially the "fair" side) with their insidious tactics in public education.

[@chesterstevens8870]

No Russian ever called me a bigot.

[@thechuckjosechannel.2702]

@@chesterstevens8870 Because at least their safe from the Woke.

[@cirelesten]

Born 95, I'm completely fucked. Mostly my fault for giving up and expecting my employer to do their job as much as they expect me to. Debt to my eyes No job prospects Economic is screwed on every side. Government just wants its taxes an doesn't care about anything else. I'm tired of being lied to.

[@scurvofpcp]

Shit, pretty much everyone since the boomers have been going through a gang bang of once in a lifetime economic disasters. I was born in the 70s spent most of my career in a boomer saturated job market while every 5 years it seemed we would have one crash after another.

[@Grimmlocked]

@@scurvofpcp because crashes are fine for those with assets and just makes them wealthier

[@scurvofpcp]

@@Grimmlocked Ahh that is right, I forgot Gen X is the wealthy ones who got it all from the start. Cause you know, they obviously had all the assets.

[@greatbooksformen]

Born in 1993. Saw the bottom fall out of the economy in 08 and saw relatives lose their jobs through no fault of their own. The economic situation has been declining since then. I used to work at an outlet mall during high school and my first two years of college that is now nearly vacant and closed down. It is surreal how much it resembles a ghost town now. It used to be a busy place where people would go and buy new clothes/tools/etc. and you couldn't even get to the place on black friday. I have a number of guys I went to school with who are dead now from either suicide or drugs. Most people with "decent" jobs work for the government doing fake nonsense or are in some technical job like dentistry and hate it. The whole economy is one giant ponzi scheme propped up by money printing and psychological manipulation of the population.

[@matthewburg9604]

@@scurvofpcp I here your sarcasm, being born in the 70s myself, I approve good Sir. Not to say I haven't made my share of bad decisions and then some which contributed to this

[@asmkalrizion7078]

Imagine going to a "queers for palestine" rally with a clip board, and asking them if they'd be willing to go to palestine as a queer volunteer

[@zeroneutral]

The useful idiots would sign up.

[@hykeaux]

But the rainbow brigade has to matching rainbow uniforms... So they can identify each other easily

[@zeroneutral]

@@asmkalrizion7078 The useful 1d1ots would sign up.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

​@@hykeaux And to make the drones find them more easily too.

[@ravioli_826]

I would never defend the US government.

[@ericp0012]

It’s not worth fighting for the globalists and dying for the one world government.

[@DARKthenoble]

The problem I have with this article is this is from the perspective of a man that clearly has no bloody idea just how much of those freedoms are gone. Like the only amendment to the constitution that hasn't been touched with a 10 foot pole is the forced quartering of troups and law enforcement into our homes, but even then I'm sure someone in this comment section has an example of them violating that too. KZbin has been a lot more aggressive lately when it comes to deleting youtube comments right now. I'm not even sure they won't delete this one.

[@graveyardshift6691]

Naw that won't come until they can abolish guns and ensure that their troops won't be shot by dissident civilians.

[@BelMarduksBizarreBazaar]

That is being hazarded. Look at hotels and bnb's being forced to house people for the government.

[@DARKthenoble]

@@BelMarduksBizarreBazaar Oh look someone was able to correct me there. We truly do have nothing left to lose now.

[@BelMarduksBizarreBazaar]

@@DARKthenoble The victory they seek is submission. hopelessness and despair are the goal.

[@ravioli_826]

Yeah what the guy above said is true. The forced housing of migrants might violate the 3rd. Of course they justify it by saying the migrants aren’t soldiers so it doesn’t count.

[@josephwarra5043]

"Ask NOT what your country can do for you, ask what your country's DOING to you!"

[@denkerbosu3551]

Calling you toxic at best, and dangerous at worst.

[@ayanned]

Not worth dying for.

[@ericp0012]

Times have changed.

[@rationallyright4626]

Everyone in my area is woke or suffers from boomerism.

[@SpartanTrigger]

Same , ESPECIALLY the boomers . My generation went through the 08 crash then the pandemic and older people say oh “ pull yourself up by your bootstraps “

[@keonkla]

@@SpartanTrigger They got theirs and are just people scared at a revolution upending their cushy lifes. So they tell you "everything is fine."

[@legiran9564]

@@SpartanTrigger The only trauma boomers had to face in their youth was the Cuban missile crisis and nothing happened.

[@SpartanTrigger]

@@keonkla they literally shut the world down during the pandemic because they were scared , ruining their children’s and grandchildren’s futures

[@masonreppeto882]

@@keonkla Boomer: why don't young people want to fight for the country? zoomer: because there's no reason to fight. Boomer: but, but,but don't you want to support my retirement by feeding yourself into the meat grinder?!!!!!!! enough said.................. I'm aware that there are based boomers but it's only like 5 to 10% of them.

[@legiran9564]

They only make blanket statements but never ask the "WHY" questions do they?

[@SpartanTrigger]

Because the boomers don’t care

[@zeroneutral]

That's how gaslighting works.

[@Cyber-Rain]

And then they pat themselves on the back as if they did something with these articles.

[@DarthEquus]

There's also the way that military vets are treated. Who'd want to fight for their country if they're going to be treated like refuse after putting their lives on the line for it?

[@juliandixon891]

They wanted to talk shit and treat gen z like trash, now gen z said keep that same energy and now they’re crying about it.

[@jacobnewell7845]

As a millennial, I love my country. But I'm not willing to die for it

[@NickM_FirstofHisName]

So, more like a situationship

[@zeroneutral]

Then you don't deserve to keep it.

[@denkerbosu3551]

​@@zeroneutral the country is going out of its way to make sure the country he loves doesn't exist. Did you guys forget the military ad about the californian chick and her two moms?

[@zeroneutral]

@@denkerbosu3551 That's not America. That's some weird new thing that resembles Weimar Germany.

[@NeedsMoDakka]

I wanted to die for it, but Obama was president when i was a cadet I backed out

[@GeraltofRivia22]

I refuse to fight and die for a country and society that despises me.

[@Mechabang]

I ain't no fortunate one

[@merafirewing6591]

And I ain't no Senator's son.

[@zeroneutral]

Actually you are.

[@hunn20004]

Some folks are born made to wave the flag

[@smoothbrian.3997]

Hoo, they’re red, white, and blue!

[@thewolfmann8392]

I'd hate to burst your bubble Eagle, but the notion of going back 30ish years would not solve anything. The problems with today's society were seeded during and before the 90's/80's. If society were to do that tomorrow, everyone would just end up in the same situation 30 years later that we have today. It sucks but humans are just like that, I suppose.

[@spacedinosaur8733]

I'm waiting for "Gen Z patriotism is at a record low - and that's a good thing" article from these moronic media outlets.

[@keegantripp1245]

Gen Z me: I don’t want to serve a nation that doesn’t support me after my service, doesn’t give me a reason outside of bs excuses as to why they are sending me and my fellow countrymen to fight in wars we have zero purpose in being involved, and then forcing me to accept rules and regulations that are not good for a military force. It’s not that patriotism is dead, it’s that we of the new generation want a nation to be proud of that supports us and makes sure that when we’re involved in a conflict it’s because that SoB country harmed us.

[@jamoecw]

The reason military enlistment is down is that they don't keep their word. Troops are promised simple things like 'if we break you then we will fix you or give you disability' or we need you to do x job' and then they just don't deliver. You see those that play office politics advanced despite screwing over the entire country and those that are almost impossible to replace given pink slips, and you can't even say that at least they didn't break their contract. Keep in mind that they are overall the better employer over most jobs in the US, and that pretty much tells you everything you need to know.

[@genestone4951]

That's a really pathetic and weak take, but I understand it. Imagine a grown man thinking the government is a "better employer". Very sad.

[@jamoecw]

@@genestone4951 The reason it is the better employer than most jobs is that it is exempt from certain court rulings that forced jobs to not hire or promote based on tests. That means that they can objectively measure how much you know know about your job versus someone else that is a good bullshitter. It isn't everything but this allows for meritocratic advancement. Add onto that they have a steady paycheck and ensure that you usually get fed and housed, even if it is in a tent or with field rations. The people that join also prefer people that can do things and so there is a culture of meritocracy, until that gets crushed out from the officers at the higher levels. The rest of 'government jobs' don't have any of this.

[@lordhelwintr283]

@@jamoecwdamn I have all that in the private sector.

[@jamoecw]

@@lordhelwintr283 Yeah, unions are given a pass as well, but most unions are corrupt. In A school for a job that only the top 5% of applicants were eligible for the black people were looking for a job that they weren't handed so that people knew they weren't a DEI hire, and the whites were there because for one reason or another they were barred from having a good job outside the military. Either they were born in the wrong place or they did something they weren't supposed to do when they were younger.

[@SuiteLifeofDioBrando]

I see politics as a lost cause as a gen Z man.

[@SpartanTrigger]

Millennial here , I kinda feel the same way , especially after the pandemic, it’s all gonna collapse due to shoddy economics so we might as well prepare for the inevitable hard times

[@LightS_bRight]

Then your submitting yourself to be a lost cause to the powerful. Being rich won't protect you.

[@thechuckjosechannel.2702]

Gen Z here.

[@randywise5241]

Vote republican and save the republic instead of complaining about the crap. When life has gone to crap, be the floating turd that refuses to be flushed. Be the bad ass that stands up and fights the socialist takeover. Rise up and make the country great again.

[@KardboardKenny]

@@randywise5241 you think voting counts? that's cute.

[@spacedinosaur8733]

From H. Beam Piper's Space Viking: "Don't you? You were there; you saw what's happening. The barbarians are rising; they have a leader, and they're uniting. Every society rests on a barbarian base. The people who don't understand civilization, and wouldn't like it if they did. The hitchhikers. The people who create nothing, and who don't appreciate what others have created for them, and who think civilization is something that just exists and that all they need to do is enjoy what they can understand of it-luxuries, a high living standard, and easy work for high pay. Responsibilities? Phooey! What do they have a government for?" Trask nodded. "And now, the hitchhikers think they know more about the car than the people who designed it, so they're going to grab the controls. Zaspar Makann says they can, and he's the Leader." He poured a drink from a decanter that had been looted on Pushan; there was a planet where a republic had been overthrown in favor of a dictatorship four centuries ago, and the planetary dictatorship had fissioned into a dozen regional dictatorships, and now they were down to the peasant-village and handcraft-industry level. "I don't understand it, though. I was reading about Hitler, on the way home. I wouldn't be surprised if Zaspar Makann had been reading about Hitler, too. He's using all Hitler's tricks. But Hitler came to power in a country which had been impoverished by a military defeat. Marduk hasn't fought a war in almost two generations, and that one was a farce." "It wasn't the war that put Hitler into power. It was the fact that the ruling class of his nation, the people who kept things running, were discredited. The masses, the homemade barbarians, didn't have anybody to take their responsibilities for them. What they have on Marduk is a ruling class that has been discrediting itself. A ruling class that's ashamed of its privileges and shirks its duties. A ruling class that has begun to believe that the masses are just as good as they are, which they manifestly are not. And a ruling class that won't use force to maintain its position. And they have a democracy, and they are letting the enemies of democracy shelter themselves behind democratic safeguards."

[@malcolmapplet4313]

I'll check it out. I hope it's a series.

[@spacedinosaur8733]

​@@malcolmapplet4313 It's part a loosely tied together series in the Terro-human Future History Timeline (One universe, but following different people (except for the Fuzzy series), spanning from about 2042 (just before World War III) to around 31,943 CE (At the height of the 5th Galactic Empire and a mostly forgotten Earth has just a few survivors scrapping by in the latest Ice age. Books are listed in chronological order that timeline. (and also have listed publishing date, as some books were considered lost forever after his death and only in the 80's were finally found and published. "The Edge of the Knife" (published May 1957) "Omnilingual" (published February 1957) "When in the Course -" (published in 1981) "Four-Day Planet" (published in 1961) "Uller Uprising" (published in 1952) "Naudsonce" (published January 1962) "Little Fuzzy" (published in 1962) "Fuzzy Sapiens" (published in 1964) "Fuzzies and Other People" (published in 1984) "Oomphel in the Sky" (published November 1960) "The Cosmic Computer" (published in 1963) "Space Viking" (published in 1962-63) "A Slave is a Slave" (published April 1962) "Ministry of Disturbance" (published December 1958) "The Keeper" (published July 1957) Might not be directly in universe timeline, but still very good I think: "Null-ABC" (takes place after World War 4 or First Interplanetary War) (published 1953) "Lone Star Planet" (takes place before founding of the Federation) (published 1958) Also sometimes called "A Planet for Texans" There are some modern sequels to both Little Fuzzy and Space Viking "Fuzzy Bones" (published 1981) was the 3rd novel to the Little Fuzzy trilogy & a prequel "Golden Dream: A Fuzzy Odyssey" (published in 1982) before "Fuzzies and Other People" was discovered and published in 1984. these 4 where written by Diehr Wolfgang and are a pretty good follow on to the original Fuzzy Sapiens series "Fuzzy Ergo Sum" (published 2011) "Caveat Fuzzy" (published 2012) "The Fuzzy Conundrum" (published 2016) "Fuzzy Logic" (published 2022) "Fuzzy Nation" (published 2011) by John Scalzi (avoid if at all possible) There are some spiritual squeals to Space Viking (I haven't read these yet, they are on my list, but your milage may vary) The Tanith Series: Prince of Tanith: A Space Viking Novel & Princess Valerie's War The Way of the Sword-Worlds (prequel to Space Viking) The Last Space Viking Space Viking's Throne

[@malcolmapplet4313]

@@spacedinosaur8733 Thanks for taking the time. I couldn't find them then gooled and one look at the cover art... that would be some good finds. The thing with me I can't stand the smell of the old yellow page books. Soldiered thru an old Doc Savage a few years ago. It wasn't the same, and now, knowing the weakness' of the series... it wasn't as much fun. Anyway, thanks again. Happy reading and I'll keep my eyes peeled.

[@spacedinosaur8733]

@@malcolmapplet4313 most of them are old enough to find online at the Gutenburg Project for free & several have been re-published, both digital & paperback

[@turtlenator6249]

Gen Z here. Love my country, but hate the people that run it.

[@peopleofearth6250]

That means you hate your country. 😂

[@ericp0012]

People still love land of their forefathers, but do not want the government to be in the hands of outsiders.

[@peopleofearth6250]

@@ericp0012 And who decided who's an outsider?... You?... Get bent 😆

[@philosopherkingzant2037]

Hard times won't create good men. Have of them have to be DEI hires who do NOTHING while the other half of employees will be rushed to do the work of 2 employees or else they'll get assaulted by the DEIs and NOTHING bad like punishment for crime is ever allowed to happen to DEIs for NOTHING beyond them being DEIs. The non DEIs will have PTSD and hopelessness to ever try again I'm sorry, I'll specify I was only speaking about my own experience

[@joesomebody3365]

The saying is kinda meant to spread out over generations, it's not something that happens decade by decade. Obviously it doesn't always hold true, plenty of societies collapse into dust and never rise again. Generally though "good times" are only made by people who are tempered by hard work and perseverance, which usually only happens if they experienced "hard times" themselves.

[@mrcliff3709]

Yep and then the food or electricity goes out those DEI hires will be enslaved by the first Warlord who takes them

[@philosopherkingzant2037]

@@joesomebody3365 The good times I've made for others aren't appreciated by my hispanic coworkers and managers because I'm a white boy It was a luxury gym job. Those customers are appreciative people but I'm so white, if I don't work fast enough, I'll get assaulted and I'm not allowed to speak up about hispanic coworkers standing still not cleaning anything in front of members who paid $209/month. I got chased and imprisoned on my last day. If I tried to get past my manager, I would have been charged with assault because her vigani is hispanic I've been jobless since December with only a 5 week internship once. Employees there told me getting hired took them months of patience I fortunately still live with my parents but we're worrying about money

[@Thane36425]

That whole thing is a joke. "Hard times" they talk about are collapse, then some "strong men" (dictators and tyrants) take over. Usually this does not end well. Sometimes they can be civilized and stable enough that things flourish for a time and the cycle repeats. Usually though the strong men just loot whatever is left, establish a feudal system to keep looting, and everything grinds down to nothing.

[@RobzdaBlade]

@@joesomebody3365 genetics is a real thing... everything your parents learned and adapted too; is super easy for your blank slate to learn and adapt too. So each generation only gets worse and worse, like I dont know what to do anymore.. So much statistics and studies have been hidden to the public, so many lies and collabs... All because of the few, I just don't understand...

[@volrag]

How many of Gen Z have ever had a good vision of the future? At least I had star trek growing up.

[@vmonk722]

Plenty of postapocalypse visions all around. You just gotta survive the apocalypse to get there.

[@Matthew-zu6tm]

The people in charge, are looking at the backstory of "We Happy Few" game as a template. Not "Happy" ? have you not seen your mandated visit to Therapy today?

[@Archedgar]

I'm not from the U.S. but my nation has a similar problem. I'm not gen Z but if my nation went to war, I'd sooner join the enemy than go fight for the tyrants & their wokie hordes. If they love their reich so much, they can fight & work for it themselves. The problem with slavery (socialism), in this case at least, is that those you enslaved will never support you & will actively turn against you first (realistically winnable) chance they get.

[@zeroneutral]

Can you be more specific? What country? What enemy would you join?

[@denkerbosu3551]

​@@zeroneutral "just dox yourself anon"

[@zeroneutral]

@@Archedgar Yeah but then does he mean he's gonna team up with immigrants to wreck his own country? I am confused.

[@Manglet762]

@@denkerbosu3551 That's not doxing at all if he just says what country. It's about as big a risk as saying you live on earth.

[@denkerbosu3551]

@@Manglet762 i get your point, but that's such an objectively bad comparison it's funny There are what, 8 billion living on earth? What's the country with the largest population? It doesn't go above 1 billion, iirc.

[@theodoremccarthy4438]

While the 80s and 90s were better than today, the writing was on the wall even then. If we want to fix things and have a stable society, we’ll have to go back even farther.

[@30cal23]

i tried to volunteer for naval service and was rejected for being autistic so when the war does hit if its not nuclear i get to relax at home and the very moment some chick tries to give me a white rose, ROUNDHOUSE KICK

[@CelestialInfinite678]

Millennial male almost to my 30s, i love America but i absolutely hate the corruption. Trying to find a job but i can't seem to get one

[@AngelicusEXperiment]

I'm starting to think a revolution is the only way to get rid of the corruption. ...What's worse is that I think the only revolution we're likely to get is gonna be led by the communists. FML.

[@lordhelwintr283]

Construction. Get out of your comfort box.

[@CelestialInfinite678]

@@lordhelwintr283 do they care how long one was not working? And i will get out of it.

[@genestone4951]

We all really need to get past this idea of "fighting for your country"...the country is OVER ya'll. Our place in history, our generation is about fighting over land and resources that will some day (maybe in a hundred years) become a NEW country. Best figure that out quick.

[@DARKthenoble]

jobs that usually were notorious for hiring and training. In my state expect you to already own a house for them to park the company truck at. Expect you to already have 3-4 years worth of experience in that field. And to be built like a truck. And I a gen'z zoomer. Had done the borderline impossible task of two of those things on a shoe string budget. They still wouldn't give me the job even though I met them 2/3rds of the way.

[@billyboy8534]

I love the US, but i wouldn't fight for it in it's current state.

[@zeroneutral]

Yes you would. You would fight the enemies within.

[@CD-vb9fi]

@@zeroneutral Right now that is about 90% of the Citizens. Just about everyone I talk to is okay with some kind of tyranny. Especially anyone with the 2 big parties... Both are fascist and busy projecting that accusation against each other while their puppet masters laugh at their dogs lapping it up!

[@alexanderwsm6296]

I would say that patriotism is less about quality of life and more connected to the goals and values that unite people together. You may struggle with your life but if you know what you are struggling for, if you know that you have some perspective for a better future, and know that people around you feel the same, then you are more motivated and inspired to endure that struggle. But if everyone around just scolds you for what you are and your heritage and you aren't given any incentive to improve yourself or any hope for something better - why would you care for people around you and the place you live?

[@merafirewing6591]

I'm Gen Z and I am proud to be an American and still hold out hope that the nation will become great again.

[@SpartanTrigger]

Millennial here , I hope …

[@JMObyx]

The situation is only hopeless so long as we believe it is. There's still a chance to recover from this.

[@DracoSkyGX]

@@JMObyx America is nothing if not resilient, we've weathered cultural craziness many times before so I'm sure we can pull through this as well

[@philosopherkingzant2037]

The vote counters don't want America great again

[@jamesjeager129]

Gen-Z here I feel the same. The only one important thing to have the USA great again is teach the young generations economics & learn to be smart of spending money imo.

[@legiran9564]

Who raised the boomers to begin with? Oh right. America's greatest generation.

[@LightS_bRight]

Boomers grew up spoiled haha the Greatest American generation had no idea yet the horrors corporations and lobbying would become and do.

[@Thane36425]

That was a joke really. Tom Browka (sp) gave them that name, and he was one of them.

[@malumnexus7919]

The Boomers tossed everything they were taught aside in favor of hedonism. Being "square" as the worst thing you could be. Boomers even admitted to this, and you can even YT shorts of them admitting it. Their parents couldn't do anything about them. They were hated by every generation before and after them, and all for good reason.

[@tristanbackup2536]

I wouldn't blame them entirely. They suffered during the great depression & WWII, they didn't had the understanding by giving to their children the boomers they'll turn out entited.

[@mikesteelheart]

Every single Boomer I know born 1959-1964 was raised by The Silent Generation who are also a big bunch of empty status-driven narcissists and instilled those values on them. Mostly the older Boomers were raised by The Greatest Generation.

[@monky999monkey]

Im to the point now that if we get a draft i’d prefer to self Minecraft over Minecraft for a country that hates me

[@Nobody90019]

If you're going, bring a "friend".

[@FuchsiaRosa]

@@Nobody90019 another buddy too?

[@kostasbiker9302]

Small round hats, sub vert our coun tries for decades, are in all positions of po wer and actively do everything ag ainst our int erest. What do you expect?

[@ChristianBMundy]

Austrian artist 2.0 when?

[@XperimentorEES]

5:20 Gotta correct the quote there; it's not that they see everything negatively, but rather everything shown to them is exclusively portrayed negatively. The author is still dancing around the real issue by refusing to pin the blame on those responsible.

[@alanmike6883]

Say it with me everyone. Yuri bezmenov was right

[@dragonturtle2703]

Open social media isn't that different from things like schools, offices, and other places that large groups gather, just less hard proof, no anonymity, and the ability to get physical.

[@myvideosetc.8271]

I'm in my 40's, I served as reserve in my 30's, but the country and society I wanted to protect does not exist anymore, I will only protect my family.

[@unkono]

So basically what I saw here is for Millennials to pick up the Patriotic slack.

[@heywoodjablome2767]

And most self-respecting Millennial men who are aware that their society probably hates them too, will likely just flip the birds at those who expect them to pick up the patriotic slack.

[@iamaronman]

You want people to fight give them something to fight for, if you don't want them to fight punish them for fighting. Which one is happening in America.

[@MrKhaos0001]

hard times may create good men, or may create a dictatorship. China is still in the hard times.

[@erubianwarlord8208]

the saying is strong men not good ones

[@DigiAkuma]

“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.” - Ronald Reagan

[@Marinealver]

Not just Gen Z, but X and Melenials as well, you know the people that fought in a little known country called Afghanistan 🇦🇫 that the Boomers sent us to.

[@mech2159]

You would think the intelligance agencys would finally figure out that they are the bad guys.

[@mattbrown5511]

The way the VA treats disabled veterans (including me), why would I love a country that loves everyone except me?

[@jasonswearingin1009]

If your loyalties lay with those that have never earned your respect especially those you've never lived around or with then you are a fool!

[@jasonsantos3037]

Like we said before no one's will fight for a country who hates them.

[@MetaLord395]

This certainly won't bite us in the ass if war comes to our doorstep. *chuckles* We're doomed.

[@Krysnha]

War, emergencys, bad crops, disasters, war is not the only thing that test a civilization

[@scurvofpcp]

Why do you think we are importing so many migrants?

[@cheesecake6945]

No worries our government has a draft bill in the works.

[@macrack1011]

​@cheesecake6945 I'm pretty sure many would rather go to prison then to die to appease the ego of seniles self-centered pricks who couldn't care less for the country's well-being

[@MetaLord395]

@@cheesecake6945 Hopefully my autism will disqualify me.

[@guardianangel7589]

My roommate stated an interesting thing he heard. Land ownership and home ownership is tied to patriotism. People will fight for what belongs to them. They won't fight for their rented apartment because they can just find another one with less hassle.

[@ezrafaulk3076]

As a 98 born Gen Z who was homeschooled, I got constantly shat on just for being the person I am growing up (& even *that's* partially my parents' fault), & even though I've been away from the parent that did it for a few years now, it feels like this whole *country* has taken his place in doing that; I still have to live with my mother because I can't get a job, especially not one that'll pay well enough for me to live on my own, I'm constantly *demonized* just for being a straight white man, & even in the house I live in, my little sister constantly gets on my case for just walking *quietly* in a completely different *room* , one that's outta her *sight* no less; very *literally* ! Except for from my Mom, her friends, my therapist, & my friends on Discord, I get nothing but *hate* literally just for *existing* ; both from members of my own *family* & this country, so can you *really* blame me for not being patriotic?

[@malcolmapplet4313]

I had a sister that terr0rized me, she was a little older. Now a days, oh, she doesn't remember any of it. But she can remember every time she was wronged or supposedly wronged in minute detail. Sucked. And I didn't get my real job until I knew someone who knew someone and they said send your resume to this guy. Except for a big bite I had on my resume, multiple interviews, but I fumbled it.

[@ezrafaulk3076]

@@malcolmapplet4313 I *absolutely* feel you on the sister thing; mine's the same way, & it *really* pisses me off!

[@The-Man-On-The-Mountain]

​@@malcolmapplet4313Oh she remembers, I guarantee you. Women remember EVERY FKG THING.

[@brianpembrook9164]

My mom: "Do you know why it is your fault? Because you're male!" As a millennial I know your pain.

[@duyas1628]

Not dying for boomers and Israel.

[@ceu160193]

Is it really depression, when world goes down the drain and you refuse to pretend, that everything is fine?

[@FuchsiaRosa]

i keep thinking the same, there's gaslighting all around too

[@RadRetroDragon]

This is why you don't coddle your kids and putting them in front of the iPad

[@dmcoub78]

Lol even without both they still would be the same. No one wants to fight for people that hate them.

[@denkerbosu3551]

As if the tv and hollywood movies boomers, gen xers and millennials loved are any better.

[@peopleofearth6250]

If you don't like something then shut up. Problem solved.

[@Manglet762]

@@denkerbosu3551 If you're talking about movies made between 1960s-2000s, then oh yeah they were FAR better. If you mean the crap coming out now, you got a point. Saying this as a Gen Zer.

[@NerdXZ-pn4nt]

Nahh there wont be a new generation that would not make good time. And the whole hard men make good time is a absolute lied. Russia is a good example also china .

[@denkerbosu3551]

You're thinking too shoet term. America itself is such a young nation. An experiment. It could have 1000 years and it would be nothing in the grand scheme of mankind's history.

[@erubianwarlord8208]

its evolutionary pressure explained in societal terms the problem is in russia and china's cases that the creatures that emerged into the strong men role only make good times for themselves

[@Dark_Wooki33]

If, what you said would be true china and russia would look like liberia or similar countries. But they do not. Reality, a strange beast isnt it? "Since China began to open up and reform its economy in 1978, GDP growth has averaged over 9 percent a year, and almost 800 million people have lifted themselves out of poverty. There have also been significant improvements in access to health, education, and other services over the same period." Worldbank

[@Furtivus]

⁠@@Dark_Wooki33the problem with this evaluation is it’s entirely not true anymore, it’s what the CCP wants people to think. If you do any small amount of research on China right now even on KZbin, you’ll see their economy is in absolute shambles, their leaders are squabbling and Xi is taking out anyone who defies him. Average People cannot afford to buy a home, and even then that is incredibly low built quality, and a lot of the younger people in China have decided that playing the game just isn’t worth it when their party leaders fuck them over and just ignore the laws and rules for their own benefit. I say all this to say that they do look like Liberia and underdeveloped nations , you just aren’t supposed to see it.

[@NerdXZ-pn4nt]

@@Dark_Wooki33 dude they really dont have no freedom and are basically still being work to death and there government lied and thousand dies from corona. sound like a wonderful time.

[@joesomebody3365]

Good video, thanks for posting it RGE.

[@loonylenny]

I was patriotic until last year. Im just more pissed off and disappointed

[@user-my6fn2ml7c]

I have no fucking clue as to whether that weak men strong men cycle is even true.

[@Arassar]

It is. On a long enough time line.

[@joesomebody3365]

First half of the cycle is hard to say, but things being too good for too long always leads to eventual weakness and degeneracy, hence the "good times create weak men" part.

[@user-my6fn2ml7c]

If good times make weak men, then why make good times?

[@user-my6fn2ml7c]

@@Arassar is it at all possible to break the cycle?

[@Knightmare-vc8qg]

Total BS. Strong men like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson create good times, and strong men like Klaus Schwab and Larry Fink create hard times. Weak men are inconsequential.

[@RambleOn07]

It's because the people that created all of these problems are in charge of education and want to go further down the path that has caused all of these problems. So, of course, they use their positions to advocate for their ideology.

[@bradandrews777]

I am the tail end of the Boomers, but I oppose all the stand for in general. Too bad we can't build connections with those who believe rationally!

[@alicemalice2597]

We don't really have societies anymore, just economic zones. It's hard to feel patriotic towards that.

[@turtlehermit6047]

You fight for friends and family.. For your community.

[@alexius9072]

Would better economy really help... To make money you need money and gen z has 0 😂

[@rockinthegange]

Love our country, hate our government. That's how my father, a Vietnam vet raised me.

[@BradStarnes]

Imagine that...

[@anthonywalker6268]

Boomer: " But if we have hard times fall, we won't have the power to control the world."

[@S0me4ssh0le]

democrats: "why do you see every thing so negatively everything has never been better!" sane people: " food costs 4 times more then it did 4 years ago, your lies have become so blatant that its depressing, you have destroyed all forms of escapism except extreme drug use because you believe if you force everyone to become drug addicts they'll all become leftest. Do I need to go on?" democrats: "Your a far right Nazi!" sane people: :... Nazi's are left as far left as you can go they believed that communism was fake socialism because it didn't go far enough." system notification: "You have been blocked by this person."

[@shadows-xn3ed]

I support my land, history, and culture but I don’t stand with the government.

[@kingwolf396]

Oh I have patriotism as an American Gen Z, just not for the government we have currently. My thoughts are closer to what the founding fathers had in 1776. American Civil War 2, Electric Boogaloo

[@warrenbradford2597]

The "hard times create strong man" myth is not true, but I do agree with treating the next generation of Americans badly is good, either. They just sabotaging their own country's future by taking their young for granted.

[@gc3k]

It sucks that either nobody cares, or it's heavily discouraged to care, about the 250th anniversary in 2026. I didn't exist in 1976 and it's highly unlikely that I'll be around in 2076

[@juliannerobertson3851]

Why not patriotism? Realism.

[@unkono]

I hear a draft is coming soon.

[@zeroneutral]

It's just the wind.

[@Darknessblade4me]

Learn how to draft dodge then. Just in case

[@BI-11y_TheStormTrooper]

Why draft dodge when it's easy to get denied. I can't go nor do I want to. Learn how to game the system.

[@ChristianBMundy]

That's a can of worms that will bite them in the ass if they commit to it.

[@user-jl4qw9xi2b]

Maybe the government needs more illegal immigrants and unsanctioned trillion dollars bailouts to other country's that we can't point out on a map like Uzbekistan.

[@doctorgames101b]

It sucks there is tons upon tons of information here on the internet on politics, history, and how-to/lifestyles to learn from and get skills at such a young age from most of these Gen Z guys. But, they do not apply themselves. Not even once; from getting a girlfriend to even working for one's self. Life is going to suck hard as hell for them for not putting the work in at a very young age.

[@zeehero7280]

Your thumbnail shows Ochi Fukuchi from Bungo Straydogs. A man of culture I see.

[@FuchsiaRosa]

social media is bad, but i feel more lonelier around people irl than anything, its WHY i am chronically online now. i meet more people who are relatable online if you complain about loneliness and depression you get told "be strong, be a man, etc" anyway and im still healing from childhood trauma and abuse so that doesn't help either, i met so many my age who went through the same...

[@dwood78part23]

Hope everyone enjoyed the ID4 hoilday.

[@reaperaf9511]

Barely a millenial here (1995), closer to gen z if anything really... To quote a certain ffdp song... "its hard not to be a menace when half of society is happy on their knees." I love my country... but i refuse to die for it in a pointless war. Especially with what the VA is doing to our vets. Im also tired of being taxed, and our politicians wasting it on bs or sending it overseas, while our own people suffer.

[@nathanielkidd2840]

Maybe if they would be fighting for their country. The Pravda failed to get to them, and most of them realized they’d be fighting for a corpos retirement account, or a politicians vanity.

[@ninjafoxgamesgeekery]

Getting off social media and with other people in person isn't a "Boomer take" - it's 100% correct. When you're with other people, you can still have fun even complaining. There's more catharsis from actual human interaction when griping about your job and you can form actual deeper connections over shared frustrations. Here's the bigger aspect, though - you might find solutions. Two people complaining their rent is too high and realizing they could get a THREE bedroom apartment for less than their separate one bedroom apartments are costing, giving them a decent living space and spare room, or even three people splitting an apartment (live your sitcom-esque dreams, people). Two of my buddies and I did this straight out of college. A 2 bedroom (with a third half sized bedroom) luxury apartment cost less than smaller ones, so we went in on it and split the rent three ways with the master bedroom guy paying a little more than the other two of us. We had a blast at that place (plus we lucked out being 3 early 20s guys in an apt overlooking the pool and volleyball court). Hell, you want another one? Hanging out with a group of friends, let's just say 4 and you complain about the price of groceries. Everyone else joins in. Eventually you realize if the four of you made a regularly monthly "date" to go grocery shopping together at Costco or Sam's Club, you can save by buying in bulk and dividing it up at home. That's again how we handled groceries in college. We'd go buy damn near whatever we wanted from cereal to soda to steaks and burgers for grilling and it cost us a fraction of what it would at the grocery store. Social media's algorithm promotes negative feedback loops because you're angry about frustration A. Because you engaged with that, you'll see frustration B. Now you get angry about that and engage with it. Humans are more prone to engage with negativity than positivity and algorithms are designed to keep you engaged. When you're with people face to face in the real world, yes, they might be miserable. But they're more prone to talk about their pets, or they can simply talk about a movie or TV show they liked without dozens of people telling them it sucks and they're dumb for enjoying it. Real human connections actively work to lessen negativity and misery. Social media actively promotes negativity and contributes to misery, especially if you don't highly curate your experience with it. The key is to do something about your situation, not wait and rely on the government or others to fix it for you. Small changes will build bigger results. Here's the thing about older generations - they were fucked too. We like to pretend we're the only generation to have struggles.....but we aren't going through the Great Depression. Gen X went through feelings of hopelessness in their government with Vietnam and the Korean War. Millennials went through multiple economic crises as well as well as the protracted war in the Middle East and 9/11, not to mention Waco, the LA Riots, and Oklahoma City bombing to put concerns about authority and its domestic responses. Gen Z and Alpha are dealing with Ukraine and Israel's conflict along with concerns of China/Taiwan issues spiraling and the Floyd/BLM events for domestic concerns. And this is all from a 1981 "millennial" or "Xillenial" here. I'm now 43 with a pretty good sized house and a retirement net worth just over $250k at the moment. My peers from my graduating class are doing alright as well. Don't believe the claims that millenials are screwed and there's nothing that could have been done about it. I don't believe Gen Z is screwed either. We have more control than we let ourselves believe. A lot of it is the choices we make. Some are going to require harder paths than others, but I don't believe in giving up.

[@jacob-2271]

I'm just gonna keep my head down and work with what I have until the inevitable collapse happens. Maybe if I'm prepared enough I'll thrive in a way I never could have otherwise

[@kyknoord]

Philip Larkin's take from "This Be the Verse" seems apposite here.

[@LaMach420]

The only thing to be proud of in America (or wherever you're from) is the history, the present day is a clown show be it North America or Europe.

[@toorimakun]

go back 50 or 60 years, most our current problems started then.

[@LyrosHazard]

22 year old from the United States, I love my country and would die for it. But I would not fight and die for its government.

[@heikkint]

Political left that in turn is way too much controlled by the billionaires got so scared of nationalism that they trashed patriotism. They succeeded extremely well everywhere in west except places like Finland that has unique reasons why things still work (yet it has decreased even here for same reasons). Looks to me when the fighting starts they have a serious issue on their hands and may have to rely on methods used since hallowed antiquity: Give people reasons. People who went to war did so because it improved heir lot in life. Show me even one place in the west where this happens now. Good luck finding out the answer to this dilemma and fast when the time comes and it will come. Few are that keen to go to modern war with drones blowing up your knee caps because some fool who absolutely hates you ant spends lots of money on people to demoralize you constantly wants a bigger yacht.

[@gruby970]

2:34 Nonono. The leaders will be appointed by external structures, just as they are now but more. wef and wjc.

[@TankJockey38]

Argentina shows great potential

[@kreedence_art266]

Fun fact Utopia is a Greek word, meaning : Impossible City/society.

[@KaeYoss]

Mankind is screwed, anyway.

[@celuiquipeut6527]

Because gen-z was raised by the state. Thats why.

[@raumograeywolf5477]

There is no going back to how things were, in those ways which they were better. What, you got old world blues? There is only going forward and making the future have those good aspects which have been torn down and lost, such is New World Hope

[@SageofCancer]

My patriotism is alive and well, but lots of people hate god, country, and their own family. Start gardening, son.

[@Richforce1]

No, the strong men should keep the hard times and just make more strong men, forever.