Geico is cancelling Cybertruck owners policies because it fails their underwriting guidelines?

[@itsnevo8757]

So I was one of the people who worked on the integration of the R1S into the R1T assembly line and early in the integration they changed the sealer/adhesive bead patterns several times. Early ones had sealer/adhesive literally around every opening including surrounding each door completely. Later they reduced the amount of sealer/adhesive they used so it would only surround the lower half of the doors and had breaks in the sealer/adhesive on areas like the rocker panel areas. The earlier R1T and R1S should be able to drive into 3 feet of water without water getting into the interior.

[@josephkelly4893]

Rivian needs to buy that truck back at a premium and use it in testing and advertising

[@Hamsteak]

That's kind of funny and ironic with the hummer. People bought from a bankrupt company and then bankrupted themselves with a Hummer from a bankrupt company.

[@arnick2]

And justice for all. LOL!

[@freefall8243]

If you want to figure out where the truth of the world resides, look to the underwriters. They are simple cold calculating number crunchers. No politics, no conspiracies, they look at the numbers, work the math, and advise decisions based on wether or not what the insurance company is doing is profitable. Heartless, cruel, and almost always accurate.

[@keith_5584]

I can see how there could be another part of this. Just like shady car dealerships pick compulsive liars to sell cars because they think they are helping people; I think someone is commissioning cold math-types to do their dirty work. Not saying it isnt VERY messed up, saying its even more messed up and manipulative.

[@justinborysenko3885]

You are right that’s why homeowners insurance in Florida is 6-15k and going up because climate change is real and underwriting is not on a political side

[@guyforlogos]

@@justinborysenko3885you think hurricanes are caused by climate change? You need to study the weather history in the south, hurricanes have been recorded devastating those ares for centuries, meaning climate change hasn’t changed hurricanes at all. Building $billions worth of homes and infrastructure in hurricane areas has made insuring these homes in the pathways of common natural disasters extremely expensive for a good reason, it’s a no-brainer. 🤦 Do you think you should pay the same insurance for a home built 10 ft above a river that floods once a decade then you pay for a home built 100 ft above flood stage? Insurance is RISK averse, the more risk the higher the costs should be. Got three DWI’s…. What will your rates be?

[@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444]

For life insurance companies, those people are called Actuaries. They're the ones who look closely at the statistics of how and when people expire. These actuaries strangely noticed no excess human expirations during 2020, the year of massive house arrest and fear of alleged disease. Yet a year later, as soon as the serum was introduced, then those same actuaries noticed a big jump in mortality.

[@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444]

@@justinborysenko3885 Funny how satellite temperature data shows zero increase in average global temp in the last coupe of decades. Funnier is how the climate doom-ologists then began ignoring satellite temperature data, and removing it from consideration.

[@aaroncfriedman]

Mad props to Rivian! If that reflects the build quality then Rivian deserves some good attention.

[@aussie2uGA]

Actually, many are like this. The cybertruck actually pressurizes their pack slightly, just to over insure there is no water intrusion.

[@randd1418]

Yes!! More bloopers please.

[@robscafidi4070]

Allegedly it was something about the Cybertruck's GVWR pushing it into a commercial vehicle category in certain states, so they were flagged as needing commercial policies. Supposedly. Makes as much sense as anything else

[@camerongsx9122]

The cyber truck is 3.1 tonnes. In Australia they would require a light rigid truck license to legally drive.

[@GreeneJack]

From $6K to $73K that's the minimum range of profit return every week I thinks it's not a bad one for me, now I have enough to pay bills and take care of my family.

[@MarryMichael-l1u]

VENTURING into the trading world without the help of a profesionals, trading and expecting profit is like turning water into wine you would need a miracle.

[@MamaNana-bi4xs]

GOOD CONTENT !!! Very engaging right from the beginning These are tough and frankly I appreciate how you discuss global finances in such a delicate way. Business and investment

[@Adrianascott-jr4in]

Experted Ann Marie strunk was my hope during the 'bear summer' last year. I did so many mistakes but also learned so much from it, and of course from Maria strunk.

[@Michaelwhites]

Just sold a property in Alaska and I'm thinking to put the cash in stocks, I know everyone is saying it's ripe but Is this a time to buy stocks? How long until a full recovery? How are other people in the same market raking in over $450k gains within months, I'm really just confused at this point.

[@FavourMamahdhe]

The fact that I got to learn and earn from her program is everything to me think about it, it's a win-win for both ways.

[@jrmotorsports5532]

Underwriters are a very real thing, they are the ones making the decisions behind the scene. Regarding Cybertrucks on personal policies, likely due to policy definitions for covered/insurable autos, and these not meeting the rules. Someone mentioned weight, could be that as vehicle classifications are made based on weight don’t may be classifying as commercial, therefore not eligible for personal policy. No proof here, just thoughts.

[@stevengreco1939]

My favorite KZbin couple!

[@ATHIP12]

My parents have a Tesla Model Y. Someone tapped their bumper at less than 5mph and it cost $8.000 to repair. Then someone backed into the rear bumper when exiting a parking spot and it cost over $15,000 to repair. They need to bring back the 5mph bumper test and not allow cars on the road that cost so much for the most minimal of accidents. We all pay for it.

[@jasonberger3227]

My wife hit a deer last year in our 2019 Model 3 SR+. Front drivers side corner damage to the bumper. Total repair cost was $4800, which included replacing all the USS and radar sensors in the front bumper. With “Vision only” this damage should cost less to repair. As to insurance dropping Cybertrucks, they say the Cybertruck doesn’t meet PPA insurance due to Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR). Tesla Cybertruck: Around 8,800 - 9,200 lbs (depending on configuration) Rivian R1T: Around 8,500 lbs GMC Hummer EV: Around 9,000 - 10,000 lbs (depending on configuration) Ford F-150 Lightning: Around 8,250 lbs Chevy Silverado EV: Around 10,500 lbs Is Geico dropping insurance on the Hummer and Silverado, since they weigh more than Cybertruck? Or is the issue repair part availability? If so, is Geico dropping Rivian due to lack of replacement parts? Or, is there something else maybe not being reported here.? My guess is that Geico got a couple insurance claims for Cybertrucks, and while researching the vehicles, found pictures online of the vehicle with a business logo wrap, being used for commercial purposes, which would be covered under a different policy than PPA (Private Passenger Auto).

[@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman]

thats why all my cars have steel bumpers

[@TheCobruhAlienat0r]

It's the cost of technology. They need to find a way to get the price down but to get full self driving to work they have to hide lots of sensors behind the bumpers so the car can see it's surroundings to drive safely.

[@ATHIP12]

@@TheCobruhAlienat0r Just to add more details about the cost, they basically had to replace the entire back of the car from the Rear Doors back. The damage was *slight*, but happened to touch on 2 major areas. The rear trunk/hatch is all one piece from the trunk to the middle of the roof, so the glass & everything had to be replaced. The lower bumper wraps around the entire back end of the bottom of the car. There was definitely technology involved, but it was made worse when they had to replace everything instead of just specific sections.

[@Anlettuce1]

@@jasonberger3227 It’s fair to say it’s all of the above. Insurance companies don’t want to cover most new cars because of the how expensive even the smallest fender bender can be. But then add the weight, controversial online presence, lack of parts availability (they built way too many) and problematic build quality and it’s a perfect storm. I hate everything about insurance companies and yet I understand their reasonings. Cars should be able to withstand typical bumps and bruises without needing absurdly costly repairs. Tesla won’t even buy back their OWN Cybertrucks between the depreciation and the issues they’re having. Tesla isn’t confident in their product so neither are the companies paid to bet on it.

[@lovejones72]

Underwriters are very real. Source: I’ve been a mortgage underwriter for 30 years.

[@Jenuin]

9:15 😂 🎉 best part of the episode is when Hoovie hits his knee LoL ❤😂

[@iankirkpatrick6486]

No Hoovies were injured in the making of this video.

[@chassegallerie2910]

Tesla quality... Yup. As for the Rivian, I would tell my insurance company that I'm taking the risks and I'd keep it. But if I was Rivian, I would try to get that truck to study it and improve it if there's actually some issues with it.

[@rodneyking4183]

9:14 This part needs to be a KZbin Short all by itself. I almost coughed up my lunch I laughed so hard. I hope you are OK Tyler. The hit to your ego was massive.

[@cloudyview]

Rivian needs to get that truck on all their advertising, that's wild

[@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444]

Rivian should total it out and then drive it around as-is for marketing purposes.

[@IraqVet0608]

They should replace the dude’s truck and use it for press

[@Kav3h]

The Fisker office and building, so much left all those really nice chairs and desk , plus car parts.

[@kmorton54]

The Cybertruck is one of the stupidest vehicles on the road today

[@Zzus321]

Look at the bright side Hoovie make a good decision by Dumping the Cyber Turd

[@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman]

well it was created by that fruit cake Elon

[@philiprowney]

April has never heard of 'rugged' phones... Blackview would blow her mind... _'What it's also an underwater camera!?!?!'_

[@heiner71]

Most modern phones can be submerged.

[@philiprowney]

@@heiner71 A Blackview is $200, now tell me what? [ used as disposable in 'black ops' ]

[@CLCIII]

I'll believe the Rivian storey when I see the door opening for the first time after "floating" away! Much respect if true. Call me a doubter, and I'm not from Missouri! As Always, May God Bless you and yours! 😇

[@tim3172]

LAWD JEBUS is the one who sent this devastating storms, no?

[@CLCIII]

@@tim3172 ONLY worthy and good things are from above. All worldly things are of the adversary, who is the prince of this world, made so when he was caste out of heaven by God. No excuse for ignorance. All The Truth Is Written In The Owners Manual For Life, aka, The Bible - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth. Read it and heed it or live your life in ignorance, your choice. Will Rogers said it best "Everybody is ignorant, just on different subjects." Being ignorant is not a bad thing. Choosing to stay that way and professing things you know nothing about, is though. As Always, May God Bless you and yours! 😇

[@jakemathers4137]

Some nice plants needed in studio.. also more hoovie garage updates Rock on hoovie

[@criticalevent]

I really don't understand why every EV manufacturer except Rivian didn't start with the best selling vehicle in America instead of getting around to it later.

[@aussie2uGA]

Because if something is best selling now, you're late to market. Just ask station wagon designers.

[@criticalevent]

@@aussie2uGA Station wagon designers? You think the pickup truck has dropped off being the best selling vehicle in America?

[@aussie2uGA]

@@criticalevent Of course Truck sales are declining and that desire is on to something else, just like with SUVs. When something is popular now, the market gets saturated quickly. You need to always look for the next "thing", not the current one.

[@criticalevent]

@@aussie2uGA Truck sales are most certainly not declining compared to sedan sales in the US. Sedan sales are nearly dead in the US. Tesla sold their first mass market sedan in 2012. So in anticipation for Trucks being knocked off the number one spot by when? 2042? They decided not to target the current hottest vehicle market in 2012? That's certainly some Elon Musk logic.

[@aussie2uGA]

@@criticalevent I guess just read the reports of where it all is and where it's headed.

[@jakelannetti3128]

Completely agree, you gotta turn that rivian in. There’s gotta be some water in that harness, wait some time for that corrosion to start and it will be a very nice brick

[@ericquinn8578]

Rivian & Lucid ftw. Eventually they’ll get their shit together and succeed the way they deserve to.

[@lysajane3643]

Best ending ever.

[@JV1977-bo5xw]

I drive a Honda Civic and only had one minor problem. It cost me around $200. My car isn't the fastest or powerful, but it's reliable, safety, and gives me up to 300 miles or longer if I drive fuel efficient.

[@chrisbrown9991]

I got to meet one of the Rivian engineers at the LA auto show in about 2018. They are using a skateboard design and are able to forge water up to 36" deep which is when it will start to float.

[@keithrobertson2401]

I think it has to do with overall curb weight and recently videos where released of cyber trucks absolutely demolishing its way through guard rails designed to prevent that. They literally become and unstoppable force in the event of an accident or loosing control. Luckily not many on the road but if there were, I could see some serious carnage as the result of that much mass + strength of materials + no control. People will be seriously hurt and killed simply due to the fact it’s designed poorly with no safety other then occupants in mind.

[@SJT.IN.KC85]

Kia and Hyundai shouldn't be insurable with their pathetic smart key system

[@mickpalmer6213]

And henrik fisker, is a man from denmark who moved to the US, and started the company.... as a dane we always love when danish people do well, and not so well 😂😂😂😂

[@markymark903]

I still believe that the Cyber truck was designed by a 10 year old kid.

[@heiner71]

Well, kind of. Musk has some qualities of a 10 year old kid.

[@holystromboli]

It was a 9 year old

[@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444]

@@heiner71 That's what the media told you to think as soon as he stopped censoring (on Twitter) that political affiliation that you probably don't like.

[@batsonelectronics]

@@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444 And yet Musk censors all the time on twitter. Take neg about him, you get booted, write an honest but not flattering article about him, get banned. The only shit on twitter now is extreme right wing stuff because that is all he allows.

[@tim3172]

@@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444 You mean as soon as his brain melted after finding out that his child was transgender, going on a rampage of mind-boggling decisions, and then trying to SUE people for cutting ties?

[@JamesAllmond]

Long time ago, I used to work for GEICO, in sales for a while and telephone service, then moved in to Planning/IT...saying that, I can see GEICO's ever nebulous underwriting guidelines saying the vehicle does not meet their guidelines as a standard private passenger...also depends on who the driver is, I can see where that could scare the crap out of them. But basically, yeah, they feel they can't make money on something, screw it, gotta go...

[@krissolson7043]

I wouldn't trade my 2022 Kia Forte title for title of a cyberjunk.

[@anthonyw5261]

Rivian, if it were me, would send the owner a brand new truck. The mud covered truck would be on display in all it's dirt and on billboards. Wow🤯

[@johnasbury4997]

No shit. I would be so proud of it

[@barrettwbenton]

And...it *didn't* "spontaneously combust." Rivian's real-world stock just shot up.

[@nevco8774]

​@@barrettwbenton With real engineering a real problem of spontaneous combustion of the battery is solvable. Kudos to Rivian!

[@theusefulidiot4202]

Imagine if that dude didn't want the truck anymore and purposely parked it somewhere knowing that it was gunna flood, then the damn thing floats to safety.

[@aussie2uGA]

Actually, many are like this. The cybertruck actually pressurizes their pack slightly, just to over insure there is no water intrusion

[@nitrousoxide69]

Rivian is showing that it is possible to get a new car from a new carmaker without having to put up with the issues that Tesla or Fisker had. Especially when its in the high end price range.

[@aussie2uGA]

lol, ask them how their tonneau cover is doing.

[@criticalevent]

@@aussie2uGA Oh yes, minor inconvenience vs bricked truck. It's all the same.

[@tim3172]

@@aussie2uGA Doesn't the Cybertruck have widespread issues with the tonneau cover buttons shorting out and getting stuck? Are you just projecting or are you confused?

[@Shauma_llama]

Cyberdumpsters: the car that keeps on giving, to KZbin creators. 😂

[@Enigma8750]

Maybe Geico knows something that we don't.

[@jeffreyrichard2575]

more like what people don't want to admit. Its called denial.

[@tim3172]

That manchild Musk shouldn't be making decisions on anything, much less engineering decisions?

[@jeffreyrichard2575]

@@tim3172 Musk can make his decisions, and we can make ours Its called a FREE market right? The problem is the government getting involved and trying to control the market- that is called Fascism.

[@PWarren4]

That Rivian looks like it came from Hoovie's back yard

[@TXCherokee]

I bought that owl bit set from your Amazon page. Great tool bits

[@Jeff-s2v]

Possible that people are pointing at the fool sitting in the Cybertruck.

[@jake_of_the_jungle9840]

I’m switching from GEICO to progressive this month bc for me a 25 yo with no accidents and bundled with home insurance and my 3 early 2000s cars and truck with just liability are $300 a month and on progressive it’s half for the same cars it’s 160, I don’t get it

[@criticalevent]

You'll find it's worth switching companies every few years, they quietly jack the rates on existing clients and offer attractive ones to new clients.

[@richardelliott8352]

insurance companies will adjust their "risk pool" to maintain profitability. Too much concentrated risk might be a reason to adjust the desirability of the product to consumers.

[@ドリフト180X]

That story about the flood rivian is crazy, especially the fact it started up.

[@natehydrv1661]

As the owner of a small risk management company, I can assure everyone that new guidelines are way past due in the insurance industry and cost all of us money for everyday that things are not implemented

[@richardelliott8352]

Tesla might have to start their own insurance company to keep selling the trucks once the difficulty to insure gets known

[@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus]

My last 3 phones have been waterproof. If I dropped one in salt water I would put it in fresh water as soon as soon as I could.

[@gc4408]

April I heard the “jab” Steve Gormon got on you at the radio show…… don’t worry it flew over most people’s head…… I just happen to watch listen to both……. Dating advice part …… lol you are all good

[@fredmalito9869]

Girls do love a guy who can make them laugh…

[@johnmarino4085]

Thanks for sharing guys !

[@HypocriticYT]

If Rubin’s was on the ball they’d buy the truck back and inspect it

[@Strallionn]

Gee I guess when your 3ton cars self immolate spontaneously, and require specific aerospace fire extinguishers to put out, insurance companies aint gonna want to foot that bill

[@FlashTriggr]

That was a professor Frink intro. GOOD MORNING KZbin…. Well it’s bad news

[@sk8rboy509]

8:23 fwiw, most modern flagship smartphones are waterproof. iPhones in particular are much more waterproof than Apple even claims they are. I’ve taken mine in many lakes

[@NomenClature-o8s]

I can’t understand how the Cybertruck passed DOT regulations. It literally has exposed sharp edges on the body panels.

[@Nord_Mann]

Love your show❤

[@tony_25or6to4]

I'd buy the R1T back from the insurance company.

[@imnowhacko]

I'm a big goofy idiot too. Ya think I could ever score an April quality woman? Nope.

[@josearias2671]

Geico is smart. Those tin cans are a waste of money

[@oonwing]

Lucky, Blessed, five leaf clover dude!!!

[@j.michaelfinn3987]

Water damaged Rivian? Call Ed!

[@Dr650rob]

Probably because of their super strong hitch point

[@t20594]

Probably also owners that are underwater on them also.

[@wrbrower]

…people trying to get out of being underwater (money and water)…

[@MrRamayr98]

Yay!!! Another episode of Hooter's Garage

[@Gordanovich02]

Tesla owners: "The electrics are fully waterproof!" The fully waterproof electrics:

[@josephbrown4782]

I love you guys!!!

[@garfixit]

My customers neighbor had a cyber truck for 10 days and it burned down his new home

[@CLCIII]

Why should the rest of pay for the elite few driving a refrigerator guillotine on the highways that are both dangerous and basically unrepairable? My two cents worth. As Always, May God Bless you and yours! 😇

[@stephenmulholland4868]

Insurance companies will singlehandedly kill the ev craze

[@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444]

Yeah them and their few percentage points of profit margin. It's their fault EVs cost so much to build, ya know!

[@criticalevent]

Nothing of value will have been lost.

[@batsonelectronics]

no problem getting insurance for Toyota or Honda EV's. It is just the Tesla for the most part. Parts are very hard to get and they cost too much. No $1000 minor accidents with them, only $10k and up accidents.

[@criticalevent]

@@batsonelectronics I think every Cybertruck I've seen in any sort of accident has been written off because of parts availability. There's been a steady supply of smashed Cybertrucks on Copart auctions since the month they went on sale.

[@stevielease7952]

Just like they did with the muscle cars back in the 1970's.

[@rollerdragon]

wait.. so no 'flood damager' rivians?? that seals it... Rivian rs1 for me...

[@trappedinkalifornee]

I can’t wait to see if Heinrich will go for the hat trick….🤔

[@Rom3_29]

Most likely the driver is more dangerous than a vehicle. Then they buy a Cybertruck. It’s like giving a loaded AK47 for trigger happy neighbor. Who thinks they own the street they live in.

[@RobsNeighbor]

Goodmorning everyone 💓

[@macbook802]

Imagine turning in a dirty truck to insurance

[@unconventionalideas5683]

My mother works in insurance. An underwriter is a real thing. Most likely their underwriters are telling them that Cybertrucks are too risky to continue insuring at the price originally negotiated.

[@samiam5557]

Ha-ha! cry by Simpsons charactor Nelson Muntz come to mind.

[@ldnwholesale8552]

HOW was the cartoon truck ever allowed on the roads? All those sharp corners and it seems lack of crushable structures as well. Super dangerous to get hit by. Making liability hugely expensive. Too high, headlights way too high. Go look at a real vehicle and see what a vehicle is supposed to be. All that unrepairable stainless, you cannot simply dent knock a small dent. Not very strong suspension. And as a loony found out the chassis breaks with a towbar. While I have not yet heard of one combusting I am sure we will. Insurance and parked near the sea. NO. I doubt any country except the US would ever allow one on the roads because of all of the above.

[@balljar7546]

I'm not an EV guy at all, but I do like and appreciate Elon Musk, so of course I want to see him do well with what is does. It's unfortunate that EV owners, almost by force, are really getting shafted hare like this. Again another way American people are the target financially.

[@ALXXR63AMG]

Geico Sounds like a Geisha doing politics…can we have Car News without politics ?

[@macbook802]

Clean water would pass the weather stripping. Mud and human feces would help the weather stripping seal better. Thats with any car

[@agrippa1234]

(to all you boomers), the Rivian floating reminds me of the old National Lampoon spoof ad vis a vis the fact the Bug could float, "If Ted Kennedy drove a VW Bug he'd be President today."

[@Myrune1]

You might want to vet this information. I actually did just that and there's a bunch of conflicting information, even from the Horse's mouth.

[@bengerendash]

Um...Submarines are electric...literally the submarine division of GE is called the electric boat division.

[@kimoandrews5802]

Cybertruck is the automotive equivalent of a face tattoo,

[@rdramos13]

Coldfusion's video on how new cars are spying on you, explained some of this. I can't remember the full details from the video, so I'll try to an oversimplified run down. Cars collect data on your driving habits, that data then gets back to the manufacturer, who then will sell that info to data brokers. Insurance companies will then buy that information from the data collectors, then insurance companies will change your rates. All this is going on without your knowledge and permission. And the manufacturers that do disclose this, will have it stated in lawyer like lingo, buried in the terms and conditions parts of the cars paperwork when you're signing for the purchase. You'll be surprised on how many manufacturers are insurance companies are doing this. Nissan cars will even track and record data if you have sex in the car.

[@davewatts6724]

I would ❤ to underwrite April …..

[@fl350r]

Geico was the most expensive and worst insurance I've ever had. They will drop you like a bad habit if you file a claim, legit or not.

[@johnbacon4997]

So the lizard lied?

[@GoldenRetrieverEnergy]

My family has been with Geico for 8 years give or take. They are by far the cheapest for us, while also providing better coverage too. We have had 2 claims during this time, and they didn't drop us. One of them was a total loss. They were easy to work with and paid out the settlement and negotiated to a fair number pretty quickly. The total loss was 4 years ago. No complaints from me about Geico. The thing with insurance is that they factor in a lot of stuff that we don't realize. My guess is that they have different tolerances for who they'll drop quickly vs who they'll keep in case of claims. That being said, do not be loyal to any insurance company. Always shop around from time to time to make sure you're getting the best deal.

[@bebbwilly1879]

Geico was the largest purchaser of radar guns in the 80s and they gave them to police departments for free. That spoke volumes to me. Never had them never will.

[@j0hnn13K]

I'm thinking that Geico realizes that cyber-trucks are too dangerous when involved in accidents, maybe they also feel the trucks do not meet safety and/or quality standards and basically are "claims in waiting" for them. I also think that cyber trucks being involved in accidents, cause far more damage than regular cars and trucks because they've build them like a tank, and therefor are a danger to others. I would not want to get hit by a cyber monster, ok i would not want to be hit by any car or truck, but for sure.. not a cyber truck, you likely wont survive a hit from that driving brick wall.

[@adamsangels9874]

If your insurance gives you an incredible deal they’ve most likely assessed you won’t be making any claims

[@johnwight6041]

You should buy that Rivian that would be a cool video series

[@mtnvalley9298]

Everyone points @ the cybertruck because it's SO stupid!!

[@brucemitchell5637]

They're refusing to insure them because they're not in the business of insuring urinals. 😂

[@jasonjones3]

Good afternoon !!!!

[@kerrylewis2581]

Everybody thank Jake for that ending. Ouchie Mama!

[@wstlndiesel]

I'm pretty sure the Kansas Simp gets hurt on a daily basis!

[@avioncamper]

@@wstlndiesel Elliott Avis a Simp too.

[@markfierke8565]

This is why everybodys insurance rates are going up, because a Tesla ran over a pebble and it cost 20 grand to fix

[@richardcarpenter9895]

Rapid unscheduled conversion to a Internal Combustion vehicle 😂

[@Who-Dat42]

And then external combustion vehicle

[@johnfech3985]

Cybertrucks are only interesting at the $38k, AWD, REAL WORLD 500 mile range price point. Close to what was advertised at the announcement for the thing.

[@criticalevent]

I had several $40k trucks reserved, no matter how terrible they are, as long as they could haul garbage and people around a site they would have been well worth it, especially after the tax rebates. Of course that truck was just a con man's fantasy.

[@ThroughJermainesLens]

they aren't cool..

[@SteveBornholtz]

9:16 Only the second Mclaren related crashes this week....maybe this one is an reenactment.

[@wallofriogrande]

It's because they are trucks and they don't have to qualify for car safety standards