Geki Sai Dai San for Goju Ryu

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Ché discusses and teaches Geki Sai Dai San, a valuable supplementary kata, designed to introduce open-handed techniques as well as bridge the gap between Geki Sai Dai Ni and Saifa.
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Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction and origins of Geki Sai Dai San
02:20 - Basics: The changes from closed to open hand
03:23 - Geki Sai Dai San sequence
04:17 - When to teach Geki Sai Dai San?
04:53 - Some small variations
06:20 - What is the purpose of supplementary kata?
10:48 - Geki Sai Dai San at different angles
13:05 - Chishi kata
15:38 - The purpose of the chishi kata
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[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

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[@ShoshinMartialArts]

Sure, I’m always watching your videos repeatedly to find more ideas to understand the true meaning of each techniques which we practice in the katas. If I feel anything special definitely I will write you down….thank you so much 🙏🙇🏻

[@matthews1082]

This version of Geki-Dai-San is very well designed. The open hand techniques employed are very much within the Goju-Ryu tradition. Good presentation Sensei Che !

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

Ah, thank you so much! It's actually a better way to think of a kata as being designed, rather than springing from the head fully formed, like Athena. Everything is deliberate, like flower arrangement, or art.

[@sib9309]

Sensei Ché, as usual wonderful depth of knowledge and history. I had no idea there was such a Kata. It does exactly what it says on the tin, fills in the gap of Dai-ni to Saifa. You know what my black belts will be learning for the next few weeks 🙏

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

Such a great kata and one that we find the kids enjoy learning, because it has more of a kung-fu panda feel to it :D

[@KobukanGojuRyu]

You might find the Gekisai Ni of Kanki Izumigawa interesting. It's all open hand techniques. There's a video on youtube.

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

Ah, super useful to know, thank you! Will look it up :) Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@ShoshinMartialArts]

We use this kind of various tools in our traditional Indian martial arts to make strengthen nd flexible our arms , wrist nd shoulders. I’m really happy to watching your videos 🙏🙇🏻

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

Thanks for sharing! It would actually be amazing to do a collaboration on this topic with someone who specializes in traditional Indian martial arts - I am sure we have much to learn from each other 🥋

[@ShoshinMartialArts]

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[@BLenz-114]

Interesting. I'm in Jinbukan Goju. We don't have a Dai San. We do gekiha as an intermediate between Gekisai Dai Ni and Saifa. It's not considered an "official" kata in out school, but it's a nice transitional kata for training.

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

Indeed, both Geki ha and Geki 3 make great transitional kata, and its important to have something outside the syllabus as well just to add depth to our training and understanding. Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@davinaerwee2349]

I enjoy Gekisai di San. Its lots of fun so toonis the chi shi kata. Thanks for sharing. How exciting to have a Zoom training session with people from all over.

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

We hope lots of people join us for our Zoom seminar! Would be lovely to meet our subscribers from all over the world :)

[@FirstDan2000]

I'm always looking out for things that are different yet familiar. So I'm grateful for seeing Gekisai dai San. It will add some variety to my training. I quite like that you didn't edit out an error, no-one would know. But its quite humbling to see. The chi-ishi drill is really good timing, I'll look forward to learning it and finally use the chi-ishi that I made some years ago. There was a moment, when you performed with the heavier chi-ishi - I saw Higaonna Sensei. I thought you might like reading that. Great video, very educational. I can learn a lot from continuing to subscribe to your channel. Thank you.

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

We love Geki 3 as a way to add variety without adding too much confusion to the mix. I like to leave Ché's errors in; he owns them, and he is the first to say that he's human and makes mistakes, even after 40 years of training. He doesn't interfere at all with the editing process - he films, I edit, and then if there's time he watches a draft but often he only sees the final result when everyone else does. I think the Higaonna-sensei comment made him blush :) Thank you so much for the lovely, lovely comment! We always love hearing from you!

[@johnarokium8068]

This makes great paedagogical sense. In Jumbi Undo we have preparatory exercises at the start of the class and these have movements that simulates techiniques to be practiced later in kihon and kata. In a similar way practicing movements in the form of a kata like Gekki Sai Dai San will greatly expedite and enhance the students learning of Saifa . In the Shorei Kan system, Toguchi Sensei has developed a teaching curriculum where the progress of practice is very structured so that, in looking back, the student realizes that they have grasped difficult techniques without undue strain. Great video again Che Sensei.

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

There's something called the Goldilocks rule - students learn best when a task isn't too hard or too easy, but just the right amount of challenge. And this does ease that massive jump to Saifa. We know that Geki 1 and 2 came long after the other kata, and were developed specifically as introductory kata, which is why they don't really resemble the other, much more complicated kata in the Goju Ryu system. Toguchi Sensei's structured teaching truly shows pedagogical understanding, when many instructors are great practitioners, but not great teachers. Ché is lucky to be both, I admire it greatly about him. Thank you for always taking the time to write such thoughtful comments, Sensei!

[@micheledannunzio5592]

This is really interesting Sensei. I never saw the Gekisai dai San, and now I'm wondering if to use it in my dojo. Thanks for sharing it!

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

You are so welcome! Please do let us know how it goes if you do teach it - we've found that the kids really like it because it feels more 'cool' than the other two Geki kata 😂

[@joshua_here5849]

It's a good kata for junior belts, most school only teach geki sai dai ichi and ni

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

The juniors love it, it does feel more cool and fancy than the other two! Always popular when we do a kata ladder/competition in class time.

[@blackreddemon666]

I'm excited about the bunkaiof this kata. awesome produced video. very unterstandable.

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

Bunkai coming soon! Thank you for watching, and for the kind words :)

[@Randonraider]

Gracias maestro!

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

Thank You

[@user-qb8gs4id4i]

Благодарю вас ! Это великолепно!

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

О, спасибо большое за прекрасный комментарий! И за то, что нашли время посмотреть :) Мы ценим это!

[@georgefoley9793]

Sensei, thank you very much for sharing this kata; so much practical application in your demonstration! It seems very advanced for me, but I am just a beginner in Goju. Currently, I am just learning the Ichi version of Gekisai Dai. I have not heard of the San version being practiced in the dojo I attend, but as a beginner, I am not preview to a lot of the advanced curriculum yet. Either way, when it is my time to learn the Ni version, I will practice it together with your San version for personal Karate development. Arigato gozaimasu, Sensei 🙏

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

George, you have the most excellent beginner's mind - please keep it through all your journey! Geki 1 has plenty to get started on. We have done about 7 videos on that kata alone, just to try catch all the content. Thank you so much for your lovely comments, and we can't wait to train with you on Zoom in June!

[@toninhamalta474]

Sensacional 👍👍👍👍👏👏👏🙌🙌🙌🙌🙏🙏🙏🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

Muito gentil, muito gentil! Obrigada :)

[@jasonmorgan2799]

Ah! One of my favourites!! Thank you, Sensei!!

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

Such a lovely kata!

[@Yeino]

Thank you for this video ! I've seen this one only once. I'm gonna give it a try this week end !

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

Let us know how it went! Such a beautiful kata :)

[@diakidis3167]

Very interesting Kata, I would recommend as a training tool, but I think who ever teaches this kata, must be stressed it's training purposes only. Cause it could confuse students of the art. Personally I wouldn't add anything, unless the origination allows it, I'm just fearful of diluting the art or confusing the students. As always Sensei your an encyclopedia of Goju-Ryu, your fantastic, take care and be well.

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

For these reasons, we don't teach in order (say before Saifa), but rather as a supplementary kata to come back to once the basics are in place :) Thank you so much for these very kind words, and for your amazing support of our work!

[@user-rv8pj5mz3m]

Great stuff

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

Thank you, Joey! Much appreciated :)

[@nickyjohnson3618]

I would love to learn the Bunkai. My first time seeing this 😁 It's beautiful!

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

It really is! And the kids always feel like they're doing a more 'cool' kata with this one than the other two Geki 😂 I'm sure Ché will touch on the bunkai soon :)

[@chejagger1]

Bunkai to follow sooner than later

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

With a new crash test dummy to demonstrate it on :3

[@toninhamalta474]

Gratidão!

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

Muito obrigado por assistir e comentar!

[@gurpreetsingh-sm9wz]

Hi 👋 I went through your video it's nice explanation however if you make you kata Gaikisai dai San again it would make me clear because as your perform your kata you changed direction to direction # Slow motion (front & back) view

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

We will be doing some more Kata follow-along videos soon - please watch this space!

[@nikohlassaliveros8142]

My sensei's master was toguchi sensei

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

That's an amazing lineage to have! Thank you for commenting and watching 😁

[@jonasjpm1989]

Legal

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

Obrigada!

[@deathspawn54]

Weird, our shorei-kan dojo, does shiko dachi during the first block to the left and fight, and we do 3 steps forward first the same as you would doing sanchin

[@deathspawn54]

And we still punch instead of palm strike, I personally prefer your version shown here

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

This is a super idiosyncratic version specific to a handful of dojos in Johannesburg, South Africa, so it is nice to hear that the Kata has some sort-of cousins elsewhere in the world! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment on this very specific topic - we appreciate it 🙇🏻‍♀️

[@robertdouglas2453]

Qual é o seu estilo de Goju-Ryu? Fiquei na dúvida ao ver o seu vídeo. Kata interessante, vou praticar e tentar executar 👏🏼

[@chejagger1]

Hi there Mainly Jundokan/ OGKK line. This was a kata used by a local South African Group called ISMAA, I was a member there for a couple of years It’s super beneficial if you calibrate it according to your line Che

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

As I said above

[@As61315]

Oss from Iran

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

Hello from South Africa!

[@sathishslifestyle4783]

Is karate is usefull in combat situations

[@GojuRyuKarateCentre]

Hello! We've covered this topic in our self-defence video - you can check it out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bp3JmZaAZryUj6c