'Gender identity is WRONG' | What's the impact on trans people?: Debbie Hayton discusses her book

[@ewajustka]

Andrew, please interview trans widows. They need to be heard. Seems a bit unfair that so called 'self aware' fetishists are given so many platforms (and get paid for it), while their wifes suffer horrific trauma in silence.

[@jeans398]

Well said. I'll add to that, interview their entire families, especially their children.

[@wolfhugs2221]

Agreed.

[@Chibs-bk1im]

This . Please speak to the wives and kids. No one listens to their stories.

[@stumccabe]

I totally agree!

[@hubertinepankhurst1161]

Agreed! Stop helping people like DH selling books and giving him legitimacy and airtime. Interview trans windows instead.

[@AngelaHavey]

Language matters, and so does truth. I do not go down the pronoun bandwagon or say that a male is a woman. Only women are adult human females (she/her pronouns). Biological sex matters!

[@dwayne_dibley]

Dont be such a snow flake

[@truthfortots3288]

'Gender identity is WRONG' | What's the impact on fakers?: Debbie Hayton discusses his book

[@colinrobson1969]

Reality matters

[@Missfredawallace]

Clearly not

[@QuinnieMae]

Do you believe in a god?

[@cfowler7936]

I shaved my head bald for a cancer charity (raised nearly $950) and my first day back to work, one of my coworkers came up to me and hugged me, saying how bave I was. She then asked what name I picked. Confused, I asked her what she meant. She assumed I was coming out as a man. I explained why I shaved my head, and the smile on her face dropped, and she just walked away. We haven't spoken since. You get more praise from these people for living a lie than sacrificing your image.

[@howigotover798]

Just shows how many people are blind brain dead followers

[@ivangreen64]

Your co-worker is really not worth speaking to.

[@susanlivingston743]

God Bless You! There are just ignorant people, in this world 🌎 as your co-worker! Raising money for a cancer charity is so noble! Lovve❤

[@tashaax1993xanimalloverx]

People really are turning crazy...that's so messed up....wtf ...

[@rhyswhittington8759]

@Leidolfr you say that but in the society we live in full of absolute nutters is it really that far out? i could easily believe that could happen.

[@susiegluxman9041]

Google pronouns are rohypnol for the best explanation of why we can’t use female language for any man. It is the door that opens all others.

[@jackhadroom4540]

It certainly caused the scales to fall from my eyes.

[@catwoman7462]

He still is a married man. Even having the operations doesn't make him look like a woman. I feel sorry for his wife and children - although he isn't such an a-hole that he stopped his children calling him 'dad'.

[@MrsTabby1963]

No child IS or was born in 'wrong' body, ever. We are born in OUR body and have have to learn to accept it in all it's foibles and disappointments. David is a self confessed AGP but I do not believe he knew this from a small child. AGPs, as he stated, are in love with themselves as women. These men should return to the privacy of their homes to act out their fetish. It is abuse to force others, particularly children, to have to pretend they are women. Why? Because this causes a sexual thrill to be affirmed as a female. How grotesque to force ANYONE to play any part in a sexual fetish, without consent. It is ABUSE. David should stop playing a female role in public NOW, and particularly in any setting where there are children. I hope David makes the right choice and returns to practicing his fetish in private.

[@markh.876]

Small boys can experience crushes on girls. I don't see why some couldn't feel a form of AGP. As for a sexual thrill, heterosexual men like women, but you don't think it's wrong for them to be near women in public, do you?

[@noworries137]

@@markh.876 Small children, be they boys or girls do not have adult sexuality. They are not straight, gay, bi or any other form of sexual attraction. This idea that they do is why sexual abuse of children is on the rise. So no they don't have AGP. Puberty and the hormones that comes along with it are what causes sexual attraction and urges. What happens before this is play and exploration due to what they see around them.

[@markh.876]

@@noworries137 Children do not have adult sexuality or the understanding of what sex means, but that does not mean they cannot experience sexual or romantic feelings. I certainly did quite young. Do you think sexuality springs into place from nothing at age 18? I don't see why a child couldn't have autogynephilic feelings like others have straight or gay feelings.

[@noworries137]

@@markh.876 No they do not, not in an adult way, they are playing at it the same way they play out other adult things. This is again why sexual abuse of children is on the rise because adults seem to think they have sexual urges and they do not! Read my post again I never said nothing to 18, I said first they mimic what they see, then puberty hormones is what brings about the urge. Puberty occurs from ages at about 9 through 13 on average. Then if they dabble and this includes TV, other kids, scrolling, whatever they dabble in will make these feelings stronger.

[@MrsTabby1963]

@@markh.876 Children are not sexual. IT is abusive to expose them to adult themes and sexual fetishes. Heterosexual men do not share women's toilets (public), showers, changing rooms, prisons, hospital wards, refuges. Just because some men may 'feel' feminine (whatever that means) they remain male and same rule should apply. We are living in mad times where men are currently housed with women in prisons, share women's hospital wards, invade women's public toilets and gym changing rooms and even (in Scotland) run Edinburgh Rape Crisis refuge. Abusive and gaslighting on a massive scale.

[@paulbrunton877]

Sadly our government has been letting this trans B S go on for too many years, mother nature says Male and Female there is no inbetween it's a state of their minds, and now we hear that youngsters are being told that they can be anything they want girl or boy, when will it ever end. 😢

[@mousenation3867]

Debbie still is a married man with three children, Debbie just changed his name.

[@hlbjk]

She's fit though.

[@nowwhat1434]

Precisely lol

[@mousenation3867]

@@Adulthumanfemale84 Yes, Debbie is still David it’s just a name.

[@facthunt2facthunt245]

Debvid.

[@Wunjo-Wunjo]

Hello @mousenation3867 :o) Well said. So basically we're being asked to indulge someone else's kink/fetish. The real name for this is narcissism. What a nob.

[@susangilgallon5650]

No. Do not play the narcissist's game.

[@Chibs-bk1im]

Can you imagine a female teacher talking about their sexual fetishes and keeping their job?

[@AACPCalendar]

Debbie's wife begged him to wait until the children grew up before he made this change. He was apparently surprised that they found his actions very upsetting. He needs to look at some of the videos with his family and see how unhappy they are. Totally self centered decision with little concern for his family.

[@femalism1715]

He is a man. Why does GB News refer to Mr.Hayton as 'she'?

[@pommiebears]

To be polite. He admits he’s a man, and that autogynaphelia is exactly what this is about. He’s being honest. I don’t care if he wears a dress, as long as he’s honest.

[@deadshot8077]

@@pommiebearsit’s not polite to lie.

[@triggered577]

Lol- Why do you insist on being antagonistic? This person has a medical condition and fully aware that she’s not a woman. At face value she appears to be biologically female and since she presents that way, so be it. She doesn’t care about he/him pronouns though as stated in the video so w/e.

[@femalism1715]

@@pommiebears fair enough - he's being honest about having a paraphilia but people are expected to be DISHONEST as a sign of respect!?! No thanks.

[@jennywa3046]

To insist that women lie and call him she/her in order to ‘be polite’ is very disrespectful to women.

[@edwarddoyle4401]

"Autogynephilia" derived from the Greek "love of one-self" , previously known as (complete) "Narcissism"...

[@littleboots9800]

Yes, exactly, love of oneself, but as a woman. The narcissism shouldn't be overlooked in the focus on the "gender bending" aspect. Often their fetish bursts out of the shadows when their wives get pregnant or daughters go through puberty. It's like a jealousy, their wives and daughters are going through something so innate to being female and they can't stand it. So they stop dressing up in secret and demand to be called "mum," wear womens clothes and wigs and have weird inappropriate conversations about bras and periods, forcing the attention always on themselves. Hayton is no different. Destroyed his family for the sake of indulging his fetish and also gained special status as the pet troon of certain ppl on the GC side because he was willing to give ground on some things, like men shouldn't be in women's sports. I wish they'd stop bothering with him. It's even more distasteful now he admits he's just a fetishist and was never "trans" or dysphoric.

[@lisac1619]

Love of oneself as a woman. Men getting off on pretending they're women. And they expect us to respect this shite?

[@Debziiie]

Autogynephilia means "love of one's self as a woman" the "gyn" part means female.

[@deelondon1336]

Debbie is an AGP . I would not want him teaching my children, would be very confusing for them.

[@mousenation3867]

Maybe a bit more than confusing?

[@leont7956]

edit: it seems debbie is still a teacher, i was wrong, somewhere i'd heard that he'd stopped

[@theresas740]

I wouldn't mind her teaching Physics...

[@soniaess28]

​@@theresas740*HE

[@soniaess28]

It's more than confusing. Mr Hayton is dangerous.

[@MamaKim.]

GB News.."Debbie Hayton discusses HIS book"

[@eek8066]

How about asking how his wife and kids are doing? How did his wife feel when he explained he had "always felt like this" including before they were married? How did his wife feel about being given the responsibility of telling all their friends and church group when he came out?

[@user-jojo29]

It's in Debbie's book. They still share a bedroom although separate beds. The children still say 'Dad'. Some excerpts have been in the Daily Mail.

[@apebass2215]

​@@user-jojo29 I'd rather hear from his wife directly, rather than via David's perception of her feelings.

[@HilaryB.]

​@@apebass2215Maybe she thinks it's nobody else's business?

[@pussycats456]

@@HilaryB.Yeh, apart from the book he’s written about it and all the tv and media interviews seeking publicity about it.

[@leelabella7357]

It’s amazing how a persons best intentions to serve others can be twisted so negatively. When did we become one so cynical and intolerant.

[@AngelaRyanXX]

Stay out of our spaces, 'Debbie'.

[@thetransagender2866]

Our spaces? if they are our spaces then we can use them

[@macc3239]

Biological women spaces

[@clairhonnor6211]

​@@thetransagender2866 this is the crux of why trans identified men NEED to be included in the category of women and why we must resist the use of female signifiers for men. To gain access to spaces they are neither wanted nor belong. The majority do not consent, yet men, however they identify, force themselves on us anyway. Nice.

[@dwayne_dibley]

@@macc3239 but you’re happy to have lesbians and trans men in there? Not all pervs are biological men.

[@anonymousa-uy1hk]

@@thetransagender2866 Not if you’re a man you can’t! And ALL trans women are MEN. 👋

[@loganjames3789]

There's nothing woman about a 'transwoman' except cosmetics.

[@eddyrourke5514]

Me means me, they means a group of people just like them means a group of people..... He means man and She means an ADULT HUMAN FEMALE.

[@eddyrourke5514]

@Leidolfr No need for they or them here my friend you are a numbskull

[@apebass2215]

​@Leidolfr instead of examples, how about providing the definitions of the terms 'man' and 'woman'?

[@robertmarshall2502]

​@LeidolfrThe singular they is used for hypothetical ppl or situations where we don't know the sex/gender. It's not used for family or friends for example. It makes very little sense to most ppl to use it for someone you know. It makes no more sense than using "it" for a human. That's before we get into the rather obvious point that pronoun use is by definition only concerned with the speaker. Ppl can use pronouns when speaking however they like. They just might want to use them logically if they want to express themselves in a coherent way.

[@robertmarshall2502]

@Leidolfr I thought you were using it to justify ppl demanding the use of they/them for a non-binary individual. If that's not the case I apologize. Most of the time I hear the claim that they can be singular then ppl do it with that specific purpose and gloss over the fact that they isn't used for ppl we know. Maybe I've been talking to trans ideologues too much who make bad faith arguments left right and centre.

[@reneep.1978]

@Leidolfr you could have that in a polite way instead of being rude and condescending.

[@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559]

TBF, Debbie is still a married man with 3 children.

[@evieblessed]

I feel for his family.

[@Andrew-mv2qb]

Apart from all the positive aspects of this topic discussed, what stood out was; A major motivation for transitioning, apart from autogynephilia, was jealousy and envy :-0

[@soniaess28]

These men hate women.

[@Andrew-mv2qb]

@@RufusToots420 what is the ‘mark of Kane’? Jealousy and envy.

[@jamesthecat]

The AGP is clear in Jan Morris's memoir, also. Thankfully some people can be honest!

[@KH-aug]

Interestingly though, it was other AGPs flaunting their paraphilia publicly that made him childishly and obsessively feel, "Not fair! If they can, why can't I?" Another argument for urging everyone to use proper pronouns if at all possible, or else not to use pronouns at all. Complying with pref. pronouns truly takes the societal guard rails off and encourages more and more poor behavior, a race to the bottom where children's safeguarding, female-only spaces and competitions, and everyone's speech rights are concerned.

[@spectre8788]

Single use toilets? Single cubicles? Does this man use disabled toilets thereby inconveniencing disabled people? Absolutely no care for anyone - his wife his kids or any disabled stranger

[@KH-aug]

I agree he's selfish & his publicly flaunted AGP is bad for everyone concerned, but devil's advocate, I think ppl use single toilets for lots of reasons. Where I'm from they're ordinarily marked family/disabled. I virtually never see a queue for them, but then somewhere like a bar would be different. -

[@reneep.1978]

You'd rather he use women's toilets?

[@judeesee894]

His poor wife and kids.

[@Xtheearthchildx]

I’d would rather hear how his wife and children feel after he started dressing like this in public. I wonder why the women and children affected by these men’s choices are often not mentioned when men decide to do this.

[@reneep.1978]

that's because trans "rights" are more important in their eyes - load of bollocks of course

[@ashbrown1212]

Seriously, stop platforming this guy

[@AmanitaWoodrose]

What I don't understand: 1) I am attracted to my own body 2) I need to change my body to be in keeping with what I find attractive What??! Totally contradictory

[@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559]

I think it's more, 'I would be attracted to my body if it could be made to look more like the sex that it is not'.

[@DorianPaige00]

Homosexuals are the same sex as the bodies they are attracted to.

[@QED_]

@@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559 And that comes from a completely neutral capacity that we all have to see and appreciate things from both a 1st person and 3rd person perspective . ..

[@AmanitaWoodrose]

@@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559 That doesn't make any sense either, as in that case they wouldn't be attracted to their own body in the first place, which was supposedly the premise of the whole thing?

[@evieblessed]

That's because autogynephilia is attraction to one's body when presented as feminine NOT simply an attraction to one's own body. Debbie left this out of his definition. It's basically the new term for tranvestitism.

[@waynemcauliffe-fv5yf]

He doesn`t look like a woman at all to me

[@QED_]

Sure. But is that relevant to the principle in question (?) I'd be willing to bet that I could find a trans-woman that you, not knowing that she is trans, would 100% relate to as a woman. In fact, there's a non-trivial chance that you've already had that experience . . . and just don't know it. That more closely demonstrates the principle in question . . .

[@apebass2215]

​@@QED_plenty of women can relate to men and vice versa, that doesn't imply that men can be women.

[@QED_]

@@apebass2215 You're missing the principle. Let's say you meet a trans woman and don't know it. So you relate to her AS A WOMAN. Later, you learn that she was a man. Were you WRONG to have related to her as a woman (?) I can't see how you can say "yes" . . .

[@thedarkdefender7780]

@@QED_ Trans woman? No such thing.

[@waynemcauliffe-fv5yf]

No he might be right on this matey but i still think he should get out of the frock and wake up to himself@@QED_

[@EnglishFemale]

DH goes into women's chat rooms and talk about organisms and big breast, normal ? NOT

[@reneep.1978]

He's an AGP so what did you expect?

[@rhyswhittington8759]

a trans woman saying "trans women are men get over it".............. isnt it funny that this is a mindset that is ACTUALLY stunning and brave.

[@ellie698]

Talk to his wife, where's her platform? Stop giving him airtime.

[@willardaustria]

That's not up to you to decide. Stop watching.

[@ellie698]

@@willardaustria No. I'll continue to give feedback to gbnews.

[@willardaustria]

@@ellie698 I think KZbin should stop giving you comment space ;-)

[@ellie698]

@@willardaustria You're entitled to your opinion. Makes no odds to me 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@DorianPaige00]

Anybody notice: "Debbie Hayton discusses HER book". It's amazing how when someone tells these people what they want to hear that they forget the principles that are arguing about. I'm saying this from transactivist side and imagine conservatives wouldn't like how the video is headlined.

[@QED_]

You might be surprised. One unexpected (and salutary) side-effect of Wokeism has been that anti-Wokeists have discovered appreciation of people who'd they otherwise have little in common with. Social conservatives, for example, making common ground with anti-Woke gays, feminists, and trans-sexuals . . .

[@helenablavatsky9136]

He's ridiculous. Gender is sexual stereotypes, and he knows that. Sex is biological reality. And he knows that.

[@truthfortots3288]

True. And the other meaning of gender is simply a synonym for sex, as the word used to be used.

[@helenablavatsky9136]

@@User_U571 They changed the meaning of gender like they're trying to change the meaning of the word woman.

[@KH-aug]

Joseph Burgo, phD, has an interesting, relevant article out about what he believes to be the psychic underpinnings of autogynephilia: "Sympathy for the Devil: Autogynephilia as Psychic Retreat." Well worth the read.

[@spectre8788]

Wait hang on a minute I thought this man admitted to being an autogynephile - so sexual. But then he says he was like it as a toddler / very young child. So is he trying to argue that children are sexual because that sounds very wrong. If he doesn’t mean he was an over sexualised child then he is selling the same line as the people who say that they are born in the wrong body. Almost like he will just say anything to be allowed to do what he’s doing.

[@reneep.1978]

He's looking back at himself as a child and applying his current adult feelings to what he thought he felt as a child - bunch of nonsense of course.

[@miroirs-jumeaux]

Did his SRS void his marriage and unmake his children? Debbie Hayton still is a married father of three.

[@ballshippin3809]

Notice how this phenomena is only happening in the west. What could it be? 🤔...

[@2handsandwiches]

Penny chew agenda

[@martynblackburn9632]

Indirect whataboutery.

[@dwayne_dibley]

That’s just not true. It’s existed in Thailand and several African countries for centuries.

[@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559]

That's not true. Because the UN and WHO have been captured by this nonsense ideology, it's spreading like wild fire around the globe. James Lindsay refers to a Kenyan reporting that the same BS is being taught in schools in Kenya. Given how homophobic parts of Africa are, they may be happy to 'trans away the gay'. Here's the link to Lindsay's speach at the Genspect conference in Denver last year: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZ2TeaCtfK1njK8si=N8jaGIJt7pjV-1u1

[@alexedwards6509]

@@dwayne_dibley No it hasn't. Another lie. A corruption of something else.

[@jackhadroom4540]

So to sum up; he accepts he's a man, but wants to pretend to be a woman, whilst acknowledging he is a man, but expects us all to pretend he's a woman, even though he knows he's a man, we know he knows he's a man, and he knows, that we know, that he knows he's a man? Yep, makes sense...

[@littlecatfeet9064]

You made it simpler 😂

[@BarriosGroupie]

We're well and truly immersed in an era of identity politics

[@KH-aug]

I wonder how he'd feel if every last one of his students called him 'Mr. Hayton'. I bet a number of them already call him 'Dr. Hayton' to avoid having to choose (which, if one's never even done much postdoc research, seems a little pathetic). In this situation I'd think the rather precious honourific 'teacher', as in 'Teacher Hayton' would seem more apropos.

[@cindyfaulkner5725]

It's such a shame that more trans people are not like this person, there would be far less problems

[@tkopal8465]

It's such a shame you can't recognize he's one of the most malevolent and dangerous ones.

[@lisac1619]

Be good if the entire ideology ended. A lot of narcissistic, pornsick BS

[@reneep.1978]

He's AGP not a real trans person

[@es8059]

He’s so inconsistent. He crowed about how he wore the shirt saying “Transwomen are men” but then doesn’t want to encourage people to use he/him for him? Ummm what?

[@es8059]

@Leidolfr It’s all so stupid now. Debbie is objectively speaking a man, he acknowledges he’s a man. Why would anybody use any pronouns for him but he/him? Pronouns are not insults.

[@es8059]

@Leidolfr lmfao. Thanks for confirming you’re a nutter.

[@es8059]

@Leidolfr thanks for confirming you’re a nutter

[@es8059]

@Leidolfr si you’re a nutter. Thx for confirming.

[@es8059]

@Leidolfr take it up with KZbin.

[@deadshot8077]

Why are you saying “HER” book???

[@deadshot8077]

@Leidolfr you might be happy to call an apple a banana, but the rest of us laugh at you.

[@apebass2215]

​@Leidolfrmost people get upset when they know they are being lied to. Male pronouns refer to males, female pronouns refer to females. He is male.

[@deadshot8077]

@Leidolfr yep, all that laughter is totally us “being upset”. You wish, champ!

[@deadshot8077]

@Leidolfr well no, actually. Adults have more emotional range than “laughing” and “crying”. Ask your grandparents.

[@deadshot8077]

@Leidolfr you’re creepy, dude. I hope you grow out of it.

[@boxerann]

He is still a married man

[@Joley964]

He should be kept away from children.

[@janeharrington1757]

Here's Dave.

[@rensha8635]

This is silly. That’s a man, not a woman. He has a wife and kids. Poor family. This is just cross dressers coming out into the open. Whatever happened?

[@babs_babs]

what’s wrong with cross dressers?

[@reneep.1978]

@@babs_babs You really don't know? Really? What's wrong is they are forcing everyone around them to participate in their sexual fetish. Just so they can get their jollies off.

[@franbenson8629]

A.G.P.

[@huz7828]

There's male and female,prove me wrong with DNA

[@catherinetaylor982]

When they dig him 100 years later. He will be a man.

[@reneep.1978]

@Leidolfr Intersex people are either male or female a simple DNA test can easily show that. The only reason they don't look like one or the other like the rest of us do is because they have a medical condition that caused their bodies to not develop in the usual manner when they were in utero.

[@edricawebb1578]

Cannot believe you gave this man a platform to spew his bs, muchless advertise his book. I have loved you as the supreme voice from the UK, for years. WHAT WAS THIS, ANDREW?

[@alaakela]

The truth.

[@lennywhite2833]

This comment box is giving you a platform to express your hate so why ate upset you are hateful about Debbie and getting to talk about it.

[@lisac1619]

​@@lennywhite2833Yep, I too hate misogyny, and David Hayton in woman face is the epitome of misogyny.

[@faithingod5533]

You can be a potato and call yourself a king. It doesn't make it so.

[@hlbjk]

King Edward spuds would disagree.

[@faithingod5533]

@@hlbjk That was the joke...

[@dwayne_dibley]

@@hlbjk as would the king of the potato people

[@hlbjk]

@@faithingod5533 really shit joke you homosexual.

[@reneep.1978]

Yes, saying you're a woman or a man and actually being a woman or a man are two totally separate things.

[@SPInvictus-r7f]

"...*his* new book..."

[@macc3239]

Yes they are wrong and should never be used or forced to be used. Once you go along with it you are as bad as they are.

[@swskating3865]

I will not pretend to understand some of the reasoning , but over all a very level conversation

[@colettegibson6516]

When/where did this pronoun identification idiocy originate? Our language is being debauched

[@rjsstoke]

Odd that I've never seen Debbie Hayton and Geddy Lee of Rush in the same place.

[@bilikfinke9197]

Andrew Doyle handled this wonderfully.

[@hubertinepankhurst1161]

No he didn't! He helped a fetishist sell his book and gave him legitimacy.

[@Beachwavessun]

Well done Debbie for discussing this and being open to discuss. I admire “his” honesty.

[@harpsailorharp6716gg]

Good on her xx

[@reneep.1978]

Him

[@meredithcannon5065]

Thank you for speaking out Debbie. If only the rest of the trans community had your common sense.

[@lisac1619]

That's an oxymoron. He larps as a woman and uses women's spaces. He's not honest

[@spectre8788]

Still is a married man

[@psychbomb7543]

Gender=sex. Glad I could clear that up.

[@alisonwren3624]

No. Biology textbooks dont talk about gender. All organisms that reproduce sexually (99.9999999%) produce male or female gametes, from mosses to mice. All mammals have male and female individuals, our reproduction is too complex to do it any other way. Our sex is decided when dad's sperm meets mum's egg. Gender is a sociological term meaning the roles each sex is expected to play.

[@psychbomb7543]

@@alisonwren3624 Um, no. Gender has been and always will be synonymous with sex. Glad I could clear that up.

[@QED_]

@@alisonwren3624 Here's what you could have said to the OP instead: "I'd be willing to bet that I could find a trans-woman that you, not knowing that she is trans, would 100% relate to as a woman. Your experience of her WOULDN'T be that gender and sex are always synonymous. In fact, there's a non-trivial chance that you've already HAD that experience . . . and just don't know it. You can't logically deny that as a possibility . . ."

[@susannangwale6148]

The most sensible trans person I've heard so far

[@elkpaz560]

Debbie didn't really want to reveal his autogynophilia and the fact that he has shows what an honest and brave person he is.

[@lisac1619]

Bollocks.

[@reneep.1978]

Nothing brave about being narcisstic.

[@AgnosticSpaceCreature]

He use to be a teacher, surprise su fkn prise

[@elegantrebel]

its nice to see the media finally recogniszing that transexual people and transgender people are not the same thing. Now do science... The science of Biology ( DNA and chromosomes ) is not the same thing as the science of Sociology ( gender ideologies and social concepts ). One is based on the functions of human anatomy, and the other is a record of peoples cultural OPINIONS and ideas. They are not synonymous.

[@lynnm6413]

Imo, the AGP‘s don‘t get to call themselves Transsexuals, because they don‘t suffer from gender dysphoria

[@clairhonnor6211]

If that is the case, why are men forcing themselves into women's prisons, hospital wards, domestic violence refuges, r*pe crisis centres, changing rooms, cervical cancer support groups, and our loos ?

[@RedRonFJB]

Gender has a basis in biology.It is not 100% a social construct.

[@apebass2215]

It would be nice to see the media recognise that men with long hair and women aren't the same thing.

[@RedRonFJB]

Gender has a basis in biology/sex it is not 100% a social construct.

[@karendonaldson4080]

This is just wrong 😕

[@pampalazz]

That's the best and clearest explanation of AGP I've heard

[@macc3239]

And that is what David Hayton is as well

[@pampalazz]

@@macc3239 I think thats what he’s saying he is ?

[@theoutlier9053]

What a sensible person

[@hlbjk]

That's how you can tell it's really a man.

[@hayleyjane6763]

😂😂😂 fab. I say this as a woman.​@@hlbjk

[@QED_]

@@hlbjk Right. They need to address that flaw in future laws about transitioning . . .

[@apebass2215]

Nothing sensible about pretending to be something you're not.

[@QED_]

@@apebass2215 There's no pretending here: a man who admits that he is a biological man but prefers the psychological and social role of a woman.

[@evanburrows1697]

Pretty disappointed with this comments section. Stop worrying about middle-aged adults who at least have the honesty to admit that they have an unusual psychological condition. Focus your energy on the predatory groomers who want to normalise "gender-identity" to children, and allow them to make irreversible medical changes. You're all attacking the wrong target.

[@lozzy2587]

It’s a very dangerous policy

[@wayner9765]

A very sane, sensible person. Bravo Debbie.

[@macc3239]

David not Debbie. You are a victim to this madness.

[@dwayne_dibley]

@@macc3239 what madness? They’re an agp who changed their name, neither of which is illegal. If it upsets you then that’s your problem. Deal with it.

[@diana-cy4kj]

I don’t know…Getting your genitals removed is not exactly sensible. Very confusing indeed…

[@apebass2215]

​@@dwayne_dibley plenty of mad actions are completely legal, such as removing your penis.

[@dwayne_dibley]

@@diana-cy4kj some people need to do that to stop them harming themselves in horrific ways. Others have absolutely no wish to consider the needs of others or are happy to let them hurt themselves.

[@tyrroo]

It is absolutely amazing that 1) here you have a trans person willing to admit to AGP, and 2) you guys are able to have this in a video. Thank you for this.

[@ribbonsofnight]

Now if only he would promise to stay out of women's spaces and to never expect the wrong pronoun and to give his poor family some dignity.

[@BerryNiceToMeetYou]

It just looks like Garth without the cap 😂

[@tenniskinsella7768]

On a different matter nobody cares how wife and family feel. Im not talking about changing sex. Im talking about a film years ago where 2 cowboys meet now and fall in love. Lovely romance people ssid. No one sermed yo care about the wives and children of the couple who must have been devaststed i know only a film but in real life i would. Say as well as praising gays fir coming outbfo have compassion for the family they hurt

[@KH-aug]

@Leidolfr What don't you understand? Kinsella's comment is obviously about Brokeback Mountain, and about the difficulties experienced by the partners and families left behind when vows are broken and other loves pursued.

[@taylorlaing294]

Please don’t platform men like this.

[@taylorlaing294]

@Leidolfr because he’s a domestic abuser who parades his sexual fetish in front of children. He’s not “stunning & brave” he’s a criminal

[@khanhminhnguyen7274]

@@taylorlaing294 Where is your evidence ?

[@taylorlaing294]

@@khanhminhnguyen7274 he’s a man in woman face and works in a school dressed as a woman. He says it himself. Open your eyes and ears

[@dambar7486]

To defeat gender identity ideology we need more gender critical trans people to speak out. For that reason, it's a depressing how many gender critical trans have been silenced, not by the TRAs but by a faction of the gender critical movement. It's that self destructiveness that makes me fear that gender identity ideology will win over those who value reality over identity.

[@wolfrunning1]

I think the billions owning all the corporations are forcing this down on the people, and anyone who protests has a tendency to lose their job. Many people are probably going along with it just to survive. It's a form of corporate fascism, pseudo "laws" forced on people using their jobs.

[@kabeeraspeakingg8971]

Exactly. It's heart breaking to see so many GCs passing hateful comments on Debbie, when she is doing exactly what they want, and is already getting hate from TRAs. But even that is not enough these GCs.

[@ribbonsofnight]

Do GC trans people exist. They're very marginally GC like this man or they're detransitioners.

[@christinemyers1766]

One of the most enjoyable sensible interviews with respect both ways regardless of my personal views Shows to the public how you can here a different point of view without the interviewer being agressive or nasty. Ideal because the public can make up their own mind on the subject

[@QED_]

Yes, one unexpected (and salutary) side-effect of Wokeism has been that anti-Wokeists have discovered appreciation of people who'd they otherwise have little in common with. Social conservatives, for example, making common ground with anti-Woke gays, feminists, and trans-sexuals . . .

[@jessiahstalbirds.j.794]

I find it refreshing that Debbie is honest doesn't have any delusions about who or what he is and refuses to buy into this Gender BS.

[@angelagreen242]

Debbie Hayton Definitely uses women’s spaces, which he shouldn’t.

[@clare2401]

David isn't honest. He lied to his family for years and then decided it was perfectly acceptable to tear his family apart so he could live his fetish full time in public. The moment we all wake up and stop simping for these men the bette and safer we'll all be. "Debbie" is an AGP, yet we're all being brainwashed into calling him a woman and playing along with his autogynephilia.....its sick

[@MiniT-x8q]

David is only honest to a point, he's smug because he knows that he can mostly pass. He hasn't been completely honest about what happened in his childhood, he's admitted that here. I've watched a few videos now of AGP's who develop insight into their fetish and detransition, the word that always crops up is "desire". These men desire to be seen as women with a woman's body which they are sexually attracted to. This is a choice and he has gas lighted and manipulated his wife and children to accept his selfish desires. David has admitted that this was a choice, even though he blames the internet and social media for his transitioning. He is not taking personal responsibility for his choices.

[@MiniT-x8q]

Also, the thing about gender is that it would make far more sense to use the word 'transgender' because gender is a social construct. To use 'transsexual' there is an implication that someone has actually literally changed sex.

[@apebass2215]

​@@MiniT-x8q "mostly pass", are you joking?

[@Slumbert]

Pretendy will always be the right word. Surgeons don't put magical powder on in the end. He is based though....

[@apebass2215]

Nothing based about a man named David wanting to be referred to as "Debbie".

[@vekkstar]

Not sure what you mean by 'based'.

[@helenbeach5581]

The outrage is terrible. Can we not have reasoned conversations with other people? No. I guess not.

[@jackhadroom4540]

Can humans find common ground, rather than squabble over petty differences? I have my doubts...

[@silo5747]

Can men stop parading their fetishes in public...????

[@helenbeach5581]

@@jackhadroom4540 I don't want to have this attitude. I keep seeing lovely cracks in the ideological mantras that are getting pushback. This is a good thing. Many find it hard to speak out. With a few more voices of reason perhaps we can indeed find that common ground.

[@memoryhero]

You don't need "Gender Identity" to be "untrue" or "fake". You only need to remark that biological sex is a much more profound category and much more consequential in our civic lives as a society. End of analysis. Next.

[@carltaylor6452]

It's important to understand that gender identity is fake, when teaching children that they have one and that changing it requires experimental drugs and surgery, for example. Gender identity is being presented as a much more profound category than gender non-conformity. It's not enough to rank categories in order of profundity and give them all a legal, civic basis. In law it's 'gender reassignment' that is a protected characteristic, for example, not gender identity. When you can empirically demonstrate that gender identity is a real thing that exists in the real world (that it's not a quasi-religious belief) and we or some people definitely have one, only then could we consider it as a category at all. Until then, it's not just something that ranks below sex in society, it's a potentially dangerous myth. End of analysis. Next.

[@aljolson6613]

Im a male and i have no inclination to use a womens toilet,because i was thought to know the difference as most children are and i can never change my thinking on that subject at 68 years old .a woman is a mother, at least thats where i came from , although she can be an aunt a sister a female who prefers other women she is still a woman and i will always see her as a woman regardless of her preference to want another female to love and not a male

[@etch-a-sketch]

Love Debbie. I so appreciate her (or his) humanity and humanistic perspective! He earns everyone‘s repsect!

[@macc3239]

He is a man and nothing else. That man is very creepy. His poor wife is now a trans widow and having to be forced into a relationship akin to lesbian because that is what David Hayton would now believe he is. Do not take that man at face value

[@deadshot8077]

No he doesn’t. He advised schools to let men use girls’ toilets. He can do one.

[@apebass2215]

He's done nothing to earn my respect, he still uses female spaces.

[@cherylannebown25]

Interesting that a science teacher can not answer the question on biology and refers back to the head teacher!

[@MsTattygrass]

His journey is not complete, because he stills wants to be called Debbie rather than David

[@jackhadroom4540]

When did Debbie become a bloke's name?

[@reneep.1978]

We're living in Clown World don't you know🤡

[@ianbrown5924]

very well said

[@TheSuperHarrygeorge]

I find Debbie a very solid and balanced human being. Respect .

[@Theresaisabiologicalwoman]

Debbie we thank you for remaining rational ❤

[@apebass2215]

Nothing rational about pretending to be something you're not, particularly when you know it's only a game of pretend.

[@ebeck54]

Great interview. Love you both❤

[@kimsherlock8969]

Enjoyed listening, I learnt something 😊

[@robinsymonds5353]

It's my age? Man do I look great

[@jodieiscool9351]

Debbie. Good on you.

[@eddyrourke5514]

No Dundee test needed here. Mick would of known.

[@QED_]

Yes, one unexpected (and salutary) side-effect of Wokeism has been that anti-Wokeists have discovered appreciation of people who'd they otherwise have little in common with. Social conservatives, for example, making common ground with anti-Woke gays, feminists, and trans-sexuals . . .

[@cenzo362]

To go with things definable & have any semblance in history we'd be left w transsexual. AGP is one's own manifestation & transgender is more of a business objective imo. There are young ppl now taking hormones for a few years only as an experiment.

[@blove142]

Thanks for the common sense!

[@MarkHeatherbell]

I wonder if Debbie was using hormone supplements to help him be a her before he had gender reassignment surgery, and how much of transgenderism is driven by replacement hormones that have become available in the last 20 years. I wonder if he gained a womans voice by using hormones or hormone blockers, or he always sounded like that. It does look like transgenderism is heavily dependent on the pharmaceutical hormone industry, and might not exist without it.

[@te4110]

I love Debbie Hayden for speaking the truth

[@apebass2215]

So why does he continue to pretend to be something he knows he isn't?

[@thetransagender2866]

Debbie Hate on ... again spilling mindless drivel.. but expect nothing less from the likes of GBNews

[@shaunusmaximus6399]

There are only 2 genders and no one is misgenering you, you are doing that to yourself

[@Slumbert]

Give him a show on GB News. That debate is going on and on.... a based person like him could ask the Q.

[@macc3239]

Don't trust that man. He is gaslighting his wife and gaslighting you

[@apebass2215]

You think it's "based" when a man continues to pretend to be a woman even when he knows he's not? Bizarre.

[@MarthaMansbridge]

It amazes me some of the comments - it’s as if they have not even bothered to listen or to research Debbie Hayton. He is a biological male who has made himself appear female to make him feel better about himself - he does no claim to be a woman, does not expect us to be dictated by his view of himself - he’s the best spokesperson we have for the subject who is rational even about his own irrationality for doing what he did. Yet people are talking as if he stood for the polar opposite.

[@kabeeraspeakingg8971]

People just want to spread hate even when Debbie is doing what they want. It's sad.

[@ribbonsofnight]

he's quite open about being aroused by the idea of him being a woman and going into women's spaces. The criticisms aren't from lack of knowledge.