10 Reasons Why Warhammer 40K is Insane

[@tcuegonbear]

Harry Potter fans: "I want to go to Hogwarts" Star Wars fans: "I want to go to the Jedi Academy" Star Trek fans: "I want to be in Starfleet" 40k fans: "I want no part of that shit"

[@pogyt4671]

40K Veteran Fans: "If im a Ork, I’m fine wit dat"

[@chrismath149]

Yes, if there isn't an order of Darwinist space wizards forcing your children into a cult and have you fight for your life to become an adult or grow up to become a mindless doll serving a perceived greater good, and if these two factions aren't at war alongside the supporting governments for thousands of years and if there isn't a megalomaniac empire enslaving large parts of the galaxy and if there aren't extragalactic invaders killing trillions of people, the Star Wars Galaxy offers a fairly good life. I'll let you figure out who I mean. The market of terrible empires and states in the Star Wars galaxy is satiated and you can chose between those who mean well and those who don't, not between those who do good and those who don't.

[@theemperorsfinest4218]

Nah I would love to be there EVERTHING is shit

[@theemperorsfinest4218]

@Dcard Dcardian Everyone who doesnt want to be part of our glourius imperium shall be exterminated for heresy, BROTHER!

[@theemperorsfinest4218]

@Dcard Dcardian Ave imperator!

[@thekiller7994]

People: 2020 is the worse year ever Warhammer 40K Universe: Hold my chaos corruption

[@GreenStuffConsumer]

Nurgle: hold my fungal plague

[@GreenStuffConsumer]

@Colonel Kablooey they will be

[@sethgilcrist8088]

Krieg Wow sounds like a vacation

[@michaelchaney2336]

You forget what the inquisition searches for.

[@sethgilcrist8088]

@@michaelchaney2336 2020 vacations

[@bloodraven1190]

"Time is not measured in years, but by the deeds of men!" NONE SHALL FIND US WANTING.

[@rodneypayne4827]

We are the bringers of death!All shall cower in fear...by bolter and divine will of the Emperor!

[@andyb1653]

YOUR DUTY IS NOT *DONE,* BROTHER!!

[@rtstrong]

"Say, do you have the time?" "*TIME TO PURGE THE HERETICS!!!*" "... shit. I thought it was noon."

[@courier6733]

YES BROTHER

[@-Zagreus-]

@@rodneypayne4827 BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!

[@Barrachoinfinitum]

40K: *100% casualty rate to achieve victory* Death Corps of Kreig: “Acceptable!”

[@BeatmasterAC]

We lost 2 Million Men and over 40.000 Tanks and Weapon Installations. Flawless Victory.

[@zubbworks]

*Preferable

[@archeverything]

Only through glorious sacrifice can Krieg be redeemed!

[@sethgilcrist8088]

@@archeverything Once Krieg failed the God-Emperor of mankind and rejected the Imperium. We continue to pay the price for our disobedience. We are less then the least vermin in the sight of the Emperor, barely above the traitors of the Imperium cause that we triumphed over. We serve the Imperium wholly, without reservation. Nothing held back, nothing of our own. We fight those who would destroy the Emperor's vision and cast down the works of men. We will not fail gain. We can not fail again Kriegs pledge

[@mpcrauzer]

Sweating comissar: heavy desperous breathing

[@tahyrkent8747]

The funny thing is he UNDERSTATED how bad most of these things are.

[@thomascranor2668]

If you actually express the true dreadful nature of grimdark to people, they generally nope out.

[@kronos661]

@@thomascranor2668 Than let them nope out. I don't see how is that something bad.

[@cogrunner6763]

@@SD352-68 what's wrong with that I mean GW made it that way

[@MrBallsofsteel12]

@@SD352-68 Except he is right, its a Niche hobby and science fiction setting. If you cant stomach it, it's not for you LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE!

[@CommanderDread]

@@MrBallsofsteel12 Contrary to belief it isn't very niche. I thought it was till I got into it and then all the people that I spoke to in my normal day life 90% of them played or did play. Its been rare that I've found people that haven't wanted to or are somewhat into it. The two things I've found that keep people out of it is its over the top and the cost of the hobby itself. However, I do have numerous friends that enjoy the lore more than anything else. I found that it became more prevalent in larger population areas drastically due to the availability of places that can fit the actual playing of it and I haven't met a European that doesn't play, played, or want to play. My coworkers wife from Poland played until she left Poland because of the same thought as you, "that its niche."

[@JulesFaraday22]

Star Trek: I use my warp-drive to travel great distances easily Star Wars: I use my hyperdrive to get from this planet to the next Battlestar Galactica: I use my FTL driver to jump from one area to another Warhammer 40k: We literally travel through hell and back. Daemons rape the crew from time to time

[@davidsmith8826]

When I heard that the way the Gems in SU get around was called Warp travel, I immediately thought that daemons might well just jump out of the portals. That would be hilarious

[@waxiboi331]

Sounds fun

[@theneverwhere6076]

*SCP Foundation: we literally change time space of universe in order to prevent dark gods invasions that can f*ck up all of the reality and physics, we also holding at least 10 reality ending outer invasions, at least 100 hundred alien/mid god/monster invasions, we exterminate millions each day and we do it without making anyone notice, we also have technologies to vaporize even black holes and travel through universe billions of times the speed of light, we also kill literally all powerful people daily with Global Occult Coalition and we have half Satan as our researcher, we also have crazy ass doctor who managed to blow up jupiter with alien ship through unknown means, so yeah hello Imperium of Man!*

[@bright_light6474]

@@theneverwhere6076 If I recall correctly, the Foundation and the deliberate extermination of supernatural entities are concepts so far removed that they cannot exist in the same reality... The Foundation's purpose is to contain and study supernatural entities and phenomena, and to protect humanity from such entities and phenomena... It would be more accurate to say that the extinction that the Imperium is so afraid of is something that the Foundation deals with on a weekly basis, if not daily...

[@theneverwhere6076]

@@bright_light6474 *Actually they deals with it at hour basis, if Foundation stopped for even a week - earth (and possibly universe, maybe a couple) is gone*

[@SirSmite]

>Dark Eldar >Shows Banshee **Angry Howling Intensifies**

[@-Zagreus-]

Filthy monkai

[@sethgilcrist8088]

Angry gasmask noise followed by artillery fire-

[@____________838]

...Mount... ....Bayonets!!!

[@SindriTheReaper]

@@-Zagreus- it's spelt mon'keigh, you filthy heretic.

[@emperortj2035]

Shut up XENOS IS XENOS.

[@Apollo-zc2rj]

The Emperor protects all. Glory to the Imperium

[@ThatOneGuy-iv9sn]

Blood for the blood god skulls for the skull throne

[@titanjakob1056]

That One Guy for khorne!!!

[@ThatOneGuy-iv9sn]

Titan Tohka you have been exposed heretic prepare for holy judgement the inquisition is on its way

[@andrewostman3135]

Imperator Vult!

[@necromancerofterra]

Blood for the blood god skulls for the skull throne

[@lucianaurelius2418]

The Horus Heresy: “Lucifer Betraying god on a galactic level”

[@jonumine6250]

Warhammer: where god doesn't really exist but there's 4 satans.

[@Nidrog]

Or you could also call it "The Horus Heresy: Daddy issues on a galactic level" Or we can just call it FUCK EREBUS!

[@CyberDagger003]

Pretty much that except Jesus is dead and God is a vegetable.

[@alphariusfuze8089]

@@CyberDagger003 Oh I thought a pickle

[@Kartissa]

@@jonumine6250 4 Satans: Khorne, Slaanesh, Tzeentch, the God-Emperor of Mankind. Grandfather Nurgle approves of your comparison....

[@rakaipikatan8922]

You forgot the number one reason why it's insane: the price

[@dexterguth5459]

50$ for 10 models

[@BaileyBecca]

some guy $55 for 5 60 for 3 75 for 3 50 for 1 basically everything they pimp out is over priced

[@andrzejwysocki609]

* laughs in tau manta*

[@LarsxLeia]

dont forget custodes, 50$ for 3 models

[@shuck5412]

@@LarsxLeia yeah but in that case you only have to get like 10 models until you can play, cause that's what the custodes are best at, they hit heavy on their small numbers. That's also a pretty bad example, considering the Custodians are considered one of the "cheaper" armies to buy (but what is ever really cheap in 40k?)

[@NewGuy2534]

T’au: We’re scary too! *Laughs in High Gothic*

[@jackstrayfeald1007]

*Loads the Multi-Melta with purging intent*

[@inquisitorthomasdefinitely536]

Boss Umbra it’s funny the tau are small fish in a very big pond if the imperium wasn’t busy with more important things they would be able to turn the whole attention on the tau and the tau would be snuffed out

[@undefinedvariable8085]

@@jackstrayfeald1007 No Brother, load the HEAVY Multi-Melta.

[@Animefan1803]

@@inquisitorthomasdefinitely536 IF any 40k faction would turn it´s attention on the tau, they would be snuffed out. First they met the Orks that had a bit of fun with them weird vagheads. Then they tried to ally with the Dark ELDAR of all factions, which ended as one could imagine. Then they thought about poking the big ol goldenboi followers, which turned into a small raid party the Imperium named Damokles "Crusade" (because let´s be real it wasn´t even worthy of being called a crusade). Then the Nids pissed in their general direction, which made em piss emself. Then a Necron tomb woke up and spookied about. Now the Tau met the gifts of father nurgle with the happy bois spoiling (literally) the Tau´s little birthday party. These little blue boys should already understand that the only way for them to stay in a basic state of survival is to fortify their own space as much as they POSSIBLY could and just i don´t know? Start praying that the void doesn´t vomit something horrible onto their doorstep?

[@inquisitorthomasdefinitely536]

ggsjags exactly

[@tyotynastic9156]

You list 10 enemies of the Imperium and call them a "threat" to mankind but I say: THE PLANET BROKE BEFORE THE GUARD

[@HolyknightVader999]

And of course, Cadia's fall was practically just a pinch in the butt for the Imperium. It might as well be nothing more but a wet fart in the wind: stinky and unpleasant, but its effect goes away in seconds.

[@theodoreslavo5385]

In either order, Chaos wins. If the Guard Broke, Chaos has a new planet. Planet breaks? There goes everything on it. All the same, so long as there are Cadians alive..Cadia stands!

[@GarlicAvenger]

Imperium is greatest faction, and Humanity is greatest race because even as no less than 7 other factions attck on all sizes, from every direction... We are still here. Humanity endures by the daily sacrifice of a trillion fallen martyrs and millions of demi gods of war. Of course the Planet broke before the guard, because The Imperial Guard outnumber, or generally out class every other enemy the Imperium could face. If humanity didn't have to fight everything, everywhere, all at once. Humanities might would crush any single W40K race. Imagine if 6 out of the 7 great threat races disappeared and left the Imperium with a single foe. GLORIOUS AND SWIFT WOULD OUR VICTORY BE BROTHERS.

[@vonfaustien3957]

The gaurd ran away and hid behind the ultrasmurffs skirts and the nekrons captured the best strategist in the imperium. Dress it up how you want but the imperium of man got schooled

[@kingbaldwiniv5409]

The Catachans are still better, Iron Hand Straken, lower casualties, Sly Marbo.

[@1krani]

"I really hate elves." Brother? Is that you?

[@aoofmg6684]

Hatred of elves is legit. Or Orks. Or Kroot. Or T'au. Or Tyranids. Or...

[@scottland8698]

Of all the races, hating the elves is the most warranted, seeing as how they caused this Galactic shit show we are all involuntarily invited to

[@Deridus]

Let the Elven kingdoms burn!

[@DeadGamesSociety]

Yes, elves suck. But.... He rolled the common Eldar faction under the Dark Eldar. A mistake, but i guess for this video, who cares? No one likes Eldar.

[@merkavamkivm3373]

I hate those too.

[@jamsky1558]

Yeah. Warhammer 40k: when you foolishly believe that the scale of grim dark has only 10 steps.

[@skarableo5168]

It actually has 40 000 steps

[@funtimefredboi3877]

@@skarableo5168 41.000 steps

[@christiandauz3742]

65 Million Steps Chaos Daemons were active during the War in Heaven forcing the Eldar Empire to ally with a few Necron Dynasties

[@L0stEngineer]

I find the realm of warhammer 40k to be the most hopeful and kind hearted franchise. Not only does humanity manage to hold on against hell, callous gods, and unspeakable alien horrors, but, against all odds, we even managed to survive 2020.

[@jacobkingsford5209]

2020, is called a Tuesday afternoon tea, in 40k

[@christerarnoldbordon9129]

I don't even know where to begin to gauge your thinking hahahahah is it pessimism or optimisim? It is kinda overly positively negative hahahahahaha

[@jellythejellyfish7035]

If we can survive 2020 anything in the warhammer universe is a joke

[@ashplayzroblox5062]

Dont jinx it!

[@_neophyte]

ah yes the callous gods

[@kbritu]

I love how he's talking about 40k but there's a map of Fantasy... lol

[@Mechabang]

Earth 2020: This is the worse year ever Cadia 41 Millennia: *Amateurs*

[@TheSeriouso]

Why do you lump all the Aeldari together and call them Dark Eldar?

[@tba113]

At the end of the day, a knife-ear's a knife-ear.

[@ThatOneGuy-iv9sn]

Humanity first that’s why I never trust a xeno

[@chrishill3536]

well they same thing just one just sadder then other.

[@casbot71]

The non dark Eldar can occasionally be on the same side as Humanity - *occasionally…* and they will probably try to screw Humans over in the end (and vice versa), _but not always!_ So perhaps the standard Elder don't count as a existential threat to the existence of mankind? But more as a serious annoyance.

[@Stretchorse]

I am new to 40k and even I know he got the eldar wrong. He described dark elder as if they were craft worlds. The two are very different.

[@widgren87]

Well I have to say the best description for Slannesh's birth came from "What if the Emperor had a TTS", murder-fucked into existence... Also don't forget they had the second coming of Alexander the Great on steroids in the shape of Lord Solar Macharius, Imperial Guard for the win.

[@Deridus]

Horrorfexes, terrorfexes, murderdick shooters...

[@davidsmith8826]

Deridus And by Macharius’s saggy marble sack, could these names get any more childishly grim

[@tba113]

In an hour of darkness, a blind man is the best guide. In an age of insanity, look to the madman to lead the way.

[@dinocha0s]

"Laughs in Nurgle at the Corona virus crisis" Also Nurgle : i havent even begun to reanimate those corpses into disgusting rotting demon monsters

[@eyeballpapercut4400]

"disgusting" Did you mean: faithful

[@seanwhitman8353]

@@eyeballpapercut4400 Nah. Grandfather Nurgle sees them as family.

[@fischerkrull7516]

Yep, that’s all that slaanesh does.... yeah

[@bluerobin2982]

STOP the emperor protects and thats all you need to know

[@m4sherman926]

Sunday Funnies I detect she who thirsts

[@joehayes9933]

For those interested: see the Prequel to WH40K, Event Horizon.

[@joehayes9933]

@Kylo Ren the Not internet troll ah but the movie shows the accursed hulk heading to Earth where surely the glorious Man Emperor of Mankind destroyed the wretched infestation protecting humanity.

[@noisemarine561]

Nobody expects the Slaanesh inquisition.

[@NastyStankyChicken]

I'm a simple man, I see 40k I give a like.

[@genghiskhan5701]

2020:I am the worst year ever! 1945:Ha your so innocent 1919: So are you Warhammer 40K:

[@GenralG7]

I'm 99% sure the picture of the Emperor at 6:08 is actually a My Little Pony fan edit/picture lmao

[@LordInter]

yep, yep it is 😂

[@andyb1653]

Allen: Consistently refers to all Eldar as "Dark Eldar" Me: must... resist... inner nerd rage.... THEY'RE CALLED DRUKHARI NOW AND THEY AREN'T THE WHOLE ELDAR RACE AND YOU DIDN'T SHOW ANY ACTUAL DRUKHARI IN THE VIDEO THOSE WERE AELDARI (cough) ....sorry I'll leave now

[@Deridus]

Just take the rest of the Knife-ears with you.

[@raistlarn]

@@Deridus those who don't know their enemies are committing heresy. For those who know their enemies know how best to exterminate them.

[@andyb1653]

@@raistlarn Precisely. Drukhari: Shoot them on sight. Aeldari: Hear them out, accept their assistance with the immediate problem if doing so is convenient, THEN shoot them.

[@KJawesome5]

@@andyb1653 if they don't first, while their helping you

[@insanehippiehippieinsane3828]

They are the Dark Eldar the only reason GW changed the name is because they failed to trademark Dark Eldar along with 70 other words.

[@NPCNo-xm2li]

I like the "How do we do FTL 'round these parts? Why, WE GO THROUGH HELL." part

[@vincegalila7211]

That's actually pretty common in Science fiction. FTL by it's very nature is breaking some natural law simply from existing.

[@hexados7479]

Sometimes our crews are raped by daemons too

[@Lachdonin]

Point 1; The Necrons did not transfer their souls, they transferred their consciousness. Basically creating synthetic copies of their minds, while the C'tan feasted on their organic remains. The result are souless, if intelligent, constructs, and the final order of the Silent King was that the Necrons find some way to regain their biological forms, and thus their souls. Point 2; The Emperor does not consume souls. It is the Astronomican which requires a sacrifice of 1000 Psykers a day. And that's less because of a literal sacrifice, and more because it burns them out like lightbulbs. Point 3; While often claimed, it is incorrect to say that there is no technological progress in the Imperium. It does, but the political structure of the Mechanicus makes it difficult to disseminate new developments due to the secrecy and competition amongst the Magos. They are constantly paranoid of others stealing their secrets, and actively conceal their developments from others as a means to increase their own individual power.

[@jacobkingsford5209]

Is it technological progress if it is just finding blueprints again?

[@Aracnah]

@@jacobkingsford5209 For the AdMech, yes. Because after their belief, their god, the Omnissiah, gave humanity all possible technology in form of the STCs. Deviating from these blueprints or - Omnissiah forbid, INVENTING NEW THINGS - is very often seen as Tech-Heresy. Some guy was gifted a whole planet because he found the blueprint for a more efficient combat knife.

[@danielhiggins8697]

Ask so used the WFB map for a background

[@lynnusuk2092]

Yes, and the imperium does have new technological advancements outside of it like reverse engineering necron tech since it doesn’t goes against the creed of the omnisiah about inventing new stuff, or jokaero scientists whom are considered animals rather than xenos and is still utilized in the imperium to create technology though the number of them are rare so only few of the elite of the elite like rogue trader empires or the inquisition have enough influence to get one

[@samcopland5473]

Also differences between elder and dark elder

[@ThatOneGuy-iv9sn]

Last time I was this early the necron had souls

[@OniFeez]

Not really touched upon in the vid, but the Eldar species (now the Aeldari since 8th edition of the game) has fractured into 3 distinct like groups (well, technically 4 I suppose). These are Craftworld Eldar, which typically follow like a regimented training and try to instill discipline into their lives as a way to protect themselves against Slaanesh. The Craftworld Eldar live in space upon a series of massive space ships (think the Navoo but turn it up to 100x the size) called Craftworld's and use a psycho reactive substance called Wraithbone to literally sing their technology into form and shape. Craftworld Eldar use monofilament wire, shurikens and psychic energy to kill peeps, and use a substance called Waystones to capture the souls of their dying to prevent their consumption from Slaanesh. They then make automata and populate it with these waystones to literally use necromancy to protect further generations of their species. The drukhari (Dark Eldar) live in a gigantic ever expanding city called Commoragh that exists in a subdimension called the Webway; which exists between the Immaterium and realspace. The Drukhari are basically what the Eldar were before the fall, and follow all those hedonistic pursuits from the age old time. A strange consequence of the Webway insulates the Drukhari soul against Slaanesh (but not completely), and one of the many reasons why Drukhari raid planets in realspace is to not only get their slave labour on but to use these captured people as sacrifices in ritual slaughter to please Slaanesh by proxy. They do not use psykers like the normal Craftworld Eldar because as they primarily exist in Commoragh, it would be stupid to allow daemons of Slaanesh (and the other flavours) into their home. The other 'main' Eldar species is ironically not really explored to much. At least there isn't a range of them. These are the Exodites. The Eldar had colonized many many worlds and during Slaanesh's birth that created an event called the Eye of Terror, many isolated Eldar worlds managed to 'survive' the fall, and eventually regressed as the Empire was sundered. Typically Exodite worlds do not make use of as much technological advancements as say the Craftworld or Dark Eldar (although this is still advanced relatively against human civilisation), but instead of a lot of vehicles, Exodites make use of their innate psychic abilities to befriend animals and the like (so Eldar riding dinosaurs sort of thing firing beams of heat to melt people). Exodite worlds may have ties to individual Craftworlds or the like, but they are typically viewed as rustic. The fourth technicality are the Harlequins. These are basically dance troupes that move around space seeking to teach even Imperial forces about the dangers of Chaos, and actively work to fight and sabotage Chaos forces. While there is a deep rooted fear of Slaanesh in the psyche of all the Aeldari, Harlequins take a slightly more holistic approach that all Chaos god stuff is bad, not just Slaanesh. They make use of esoteric weapon and wargear such as fractal afterimages to confuse their enemy, and literally flip out and kill people with shuriken and monofilament weapons, and cut people in half with their power swords and the like. They follow the one Eldar god that survived Slaanesh's birth; Cregorach the Laughing God.

[@Nexusin]

And corsairs

[@OniFeez]

@Marauder thats' because everyone forget the Ynarri. But the Ynnari is sort of a religious order I suppose. They worship a being called Ynnead, which is what they believe is a new Eldar god of the dead forming within the Eldar Infinity Circuit (it's sort of a communal phylactery for the souls of the Eldar dead, which living Eldar can use to commune primarily with their dead ancestors). The Ynnari is a relatively 'new' faction that has emerged, and has, for the moment, united the Craftworld, Drukhari, Harlequins (and presumably the Exodites) in a more intense war I suppose against Slaanesh. According to the Eldar, Ynnead is destined to slay Slaanesh at the expense of every one of the Eldar's lives.

[@OniFeez]

@@Nexusin I don't really think the corsairs are their own faction. A collection of misfits united by common cause sure, but not like an 'organized' force like the others.

[@mkocel]

DUDE. FUCKIN A. LOL

[@SomeGuy-qh6rw]

@@OniFeez Some craftworlds are actually so large, they are often mistaken for stars by members of the imperium, due to how large they appear, even at great distances. Also not surprisingly considering they eat Stars. A lot of them at that, in a very short period.

[@exudeku]

"I really hate the elves" aight, here's your audition to be the next astartes

[@Deridus]

... VULKAN LIVES! (stomp stomp)

[@casbot71]

_Confused Kelvin timeline Spock noises…_ until I Googled that Primarch.

[@theodoreslavo5385]

Vulkan is dead...AGAIN!

[@codyevett2098]

Galaxy! Thine grimdarkness is LUDICROUS!

[@26th_Primarch]

@@theodoreslavo5385 Vulkan is dead? We know... Who killed him? We don't know...

[@Deridus]

@@codyevett2098 1 quarter Daemon, 1 quarter cuddly, 2 quarters the bane of all spines.

[@aopt471]

"The Orks who are essentially pure Chaos." - Brutha, I have to stop you right there.

[@JohnnyZenith]

They are pure dumb.

[@Schwarzvogel1]

The Orks are "chaos" with a lowercase "c." Chaos (with the capital "C") is no friend of the Orks.. although the Greenskins do sometimes amuse the ruinous powers. For example, see the case of Tuska Daemonkilla, one of the few 40K stories with a genuinely happy ending.

[@bloodangel7571]

Have no fear the green skins will be purged in the name of the emperor

[@casbot71]

0:40 _"Things aren't as nowhere bad as they could be"…_ Why do you temp fate like that Allen? There's still 5 months left in 2020 and Alien invasion is most likely the finale for December during the lame duck session.

[@GenerationFilms]

The invasion could be good for us?

[@ConfusedGuardsman]

Let them come, let them throw themselves against our walls to die! We shall strike them down for the Emperor and hunt them all the way to their forsaken home planet! We shall burn them to ash and cinder and laugh as we stand amongst their dead and dying!

[@thomascranor2668]

If it takes an alien invasion to get me off this rock, it might be worth it. Maybe.

[@lordquackers5764]

I welcome our new alien overlords

[@arowan8170]

only if its the tau, everyone else...

[@edwardarmitage3678]

not even the tip of the lore iceberg >:D

[@neverloseyuorrobux166]

When you talked about the eldar you missed the craftworld eldar and excodites, they actually escaped the eldari empire because they seen the birth of slanessh coming and were not sadists/masochist.

[@Grubnar]

The pointy-ears are all the same!

[@jasonslomski6656]

It's ok..as long as failbaddon the worthless leads chaos humanity is ok

[@ThatOneGuy-iv9sn]

Indeed but we still have Xenos to deal with

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

It's all fun and games, until you remember that every black crusade achieved something with minimal losses for chaos.

[@jasonslomski6656]

@@DonVigaDeFierro well technically any losses taken by chaos can be seen as minimal. It's an endless sea of teeth, claws and tentacles lol

[@andyb1653]

GHAZ GON' STOMP EVER'THING!!! WAAAAGH!!!!!

[@NueThunderKing]

He didn’t fail last time, the dude just made a tear at the middle of the galaxy and has allowed even Daemon Primarchs to go to town in several systems. I’d say Abbadon made the most incredible win in the universe, advancing its story.

[@KamikazeMedias]

I see heresy in comments like and dislikes

[@LordProteus]

6:06 Are you aware this is My Little Pony fan art?

[@overlordinquisitor6565]

It is! Welp, I know what my next purge campaign is gonna be.

[@BeepBoopFriendo]

That's fantastic. For the Imperium of Tiny Horses!

[@jasonreed1631]

Even "My Little Pony" the RGP can be fun. Just use LV-426 as your campaign setting.

[@weldonwin]

Yeah, that's basically Princess Celestia as the Emperor of Mankind

[@TheGodEmperorOfMankind_]

That hurt my immortal soul

[@Emanon...]

The Mayan calendar ended in 2012. It didn't mean apocalypse. Just the end of that particular cycle. You wouldn't be scared of finding a calendar that ends in December, would you?

[@hectorandem2944]

"Hold my cure" - _Covid-19 (probably)_

[@alexanerose4820]

Maybe it signifiied the end of the good years

[@dragoonunleashed9962]

@@alexanerose4820 maybe, everything after 2012 became wilder and crappier.

[@KageRyuu6]

Actually the Imperium didn't exist during the "Cybernetic Revolt", that was some previous Human Federation that fell apart during the Age of Strife that followed.

[@randrazor]

>talks about ork machines >shows imperial knights

[@eyeballpapercut4400]

looted I guess??

[@kazegakun]

You mentioned Event Horizon in the Warp travel segment! The common fan theory is that Event Horizon is Humanity's first attempt at Warp travel but without Gellar fields that keep the Chaos gods and their Daemonic servants from attacking the ship traveling through Warp space.

[@myririmyri6639]

Fun fact: Necrons did not transfer their souls only their minds. The star gods nommed the souls for power.

[@maspheliciasonsaku2523]

Yup, what I thought exactly, also, they don't want to conquer the galaxy, they just want to almost wipe it out to feed the souls of living being to their master, then go back to sleep to let life grow again, continuing the circle.

[@myririmyri6639]

@@maspheliciasonsaku2523 old Necron lore. New necron lore is very different

[@maspheliciasonsaku2523]

@@myririmyri6639 Oh, didn't know they changed it, I must admit i'm not into warhammer as much anymore ^^

[@myririmyri6639]

@@maspheliciasonsaku2523 basically tomb kings in space now Also they turned on the c'tan after killing the old ones The ones we see on the tabletop are just shards

[@KageRyuu6]

"There can be no bystanders in the battle for survival. Anyone who will not fight by your side is an enemy you must crush. " -also attributed to Lord Solar Macharius

[@playwars3037]

You actually made a mistake. In the 9th point you say that several parts of the Imperium were cut off, which is completely false since the Imperium of Man was founded at the end of the Long Night (the Age of Strife). It's the Federation of the Age of Technology that collapsed due to the warp storms and the AI rebellion (as well as xeno attacks/uprisings, but it's not exactly clear who or what attacked humanity).

[@randombloke82]

Saw the title and I was like “only ten?”

[@Kraktzor]

My thought too really

[@barryallen2240]

As of this comment you have 10 likes

[@MaximilianCervantes]

Your life is Emperor's currency, spend it well. Even a man who has nothing can still offer his life. Only in death does duty end.

[@phreakazoith2237]

In death? That's when the duty really starts, at least if ya are a Living Saint or belong to the Legion of the Damned.

[@Bloodschosen2457]

@@phreakazoith2237 Or a dreadnought. Even in death, we'll still serve

[@phreakazoith2237]

@@Bloodschosen2457 there will always be a need for servoskulls as well. It's less glorious than becoming a dreadnought but is is an honorable service to the emperor as well

[@christiandauz3742]

And you wonder why the Lost abd Damned have Trillions of recruits every year

[@TheNewsDepot]

Redd wons go fasturrr!

[@BeatmasterAC]

but still not enouf DAKKA U GIT.

[@imperious2427]

There is a difference between elder and dark elder, as normal elder are allied with the imperium

[@raendymion3149]

Well, basically when you know that there is a bit of everything inside of w40k, you understand the first point on why its crazy

[@wilsonriley1856]

The Event Horizon is likely early Dark Age of Technology; that’s what you get when you forget your Gellar Field

[@RatNinjaAlpha]

"I really hate elves..." Congratulations, you now have a friend for life.

[@adamshafeeq8685]

Brother*

[@Dwarficus]

GF Alan: "I really hate elves" Me: *checks his wargear* "Aye, blood pointed eared pounces, the lot of them. The only good elfen is one hit with an exterminatus order or ten."

[@aktor8132]

Interesting... I read this in Grimli's voice

[@tylerschofield]

"there is a chance chaos demons will come aboard your ship and corrupt you" Errrrr, no one tell him how much more horrific it would be if demons got into your ship during a warp jump. They certainly are not there to make some new buddies.... xD

[@TheDragonshadow1231]

Oo how they corruption by? whisper or dark-heart desire,heart resire rage or seduction or others lol.

[@ddrozdov01]

you're not talking about minor xenos that much more dangerous and frightening representation of it, Oppressors generally considered a threat to the galaxy as Hruds and Yu'vat. You should check out x10198. rk and the secret of Grace

[@tba113]

The Hrud, who control time as a defense mechanism. The Yu'Vath, who make the Eldar gape with envy at their use of magitech. The Rak'gol, radioactive cyborg bug-lizard pirates violent enough to impress the Orks. The Enslavers, psychic warp-spawned monsters who can mind-control entire armies at will and nearly destroyed both the Eldar and Necrons at the end of the War In Heaven. The Men of Iron, a robot uprising from mankind's technological peak who could literally _delete_ planets. The Megarachnids, armored spiders the size of dump trucks that sent Astartes legions running. The Umbra, amorphous smoke monsters so weird even by 40K standards that they may or may not be fragments of dead gods. The 40K galaxy is stuffed to the gills with crazy terrors.

[@26th_Primarch]

@@tba113 Megarachnids had some the size of Titans...

[@notalpharius3861]

Dark eldar Shows howling banshee *angry craftworld noises*

[@Grom8P]

For those wanting more fluff, go watch Luetin09's channel. He shows how truly grim dark the 40k universe can be. Also, the last point is pretty accurate, most people aren't going to be a Ciaphas Cain or an Inquisitor. (Really lucky/Skilled, in Cain's case, or have a decent job like an inquisitor)

[@Schwarzvogel1]

Being a commissar is actually one of the _worst_ jobs in the Imperium. Sure, you can blam that sergeant who showed you some lip, but you are expected to *lead from the front.* That means being the first one out of the trench, with your chainsword held high as you charge straight into heavy bolter fire and lasgun volleys. And there's the risk of being fragged by your men if they don't respect you, or they have enough of your shit. Quite often, they can get away with it too--commissars don't tend to have a very long expected lifespan in frontline units.

[@Raeinok]

Event Horizon and Doom are prequels to WH40K.

[@ShadowGhost0117]

DeanOfGameStudies I like how Event Horizon has some kind of representation for each of the big 4 chaos gods. Plenty of blood for Khorne, there was something akin to psychic flames to represent Tzeentch, an allusion of one of the characters kids with what looks like some kind of Nurgle disease corruption, and there was supposed to essentially be a blood orgy scene that would have represented Slaanesh.

[@shebbs1]

Linking Doom to 40K is rather tenuous, more a fan thing than anything official. Event Horizon may be more certain, but even then it suggests fanboy attempts to appropriate the work of others, though it is more the script writer of EH acknowledging the inspiration of 40K.

[@Schwarzvogel1]

@@ShadowGhost0117 There is more to Chaos than just Nurgle, Khorne, Tzeentch, and Slaanesh, though. One can depict Chaos without explicit references to any of the four main Chaos deities. Event Horizon shows quite well what happens to humans who receive even the briefest kiss from the Warp. What makes that film truly terrifying is that there were no daemons or otherworldly monsters--just people doing unspeakable things to one another (and to themselves) with their bare hands and common implements. It makes one wonder about the heart of darkness that is within every person, that under the right circumstances just about anybody could go on a murder orgy that would make Slaanesh blush.

[@Schwarzvogel1]

@@shebbs1 There really is no connexion between Doom and 40K for one simple reason: the demons in Doom can be killed permanently with ordinary guns (one of the most effective weapons in every Doom game since Doom II is a double-barreled shotgun, which is woefully obsolete as a military weapon even in our day and age). The daemons in 40K *cannot* be killed permanently by normal weapons, and many of the more powerful ones are all but impervious to mortal weaponry--which is why the Emperor's Edict of Nikaea before the Horus Heresy was such a boon to the traitor legions (and a huge mistake on Big E's part.)

[@jeramyneeley3351]

The eldar and dark eldar are a little different. The Dark eldar still reside in the webway in the city of commorah while the eldar are the nomadic species roaming in ark ships.

[@--ginebra3589]

"I really hate elves." *the emperor is pleased*

[@DarthAzabrush]

I think a lot of what humanity turns into in a sci fi depends on who they meet first. Star Trek's United Earth (Vulcans): Just chill bro everything is fine! Star Wars' Core Worlds (Unclear): Those funny looking things are kind of creepy lets keep them out of power. Doctor Who's Earth Empire (Officially The Terrileptils but unofficially a whole load of very lethal nasties): Aliens scare the shit out of us but thanks to a few good experiences we are willing to make a deal occasionally. Stargate's SG Teams (Ga'Olou): Walk softly and cary lots of big sod off guns! Farscape's Earth (Crew of Moya): Dude we are totally not ready for this shit! Meanwhile... 40k's Imperium of Man (Orks): KILL THE XENOS. Kind of understandable in context.

[@mikealpha2611]

Warp space. where Hell goes for a scary night.

[@muglypunt968]

Let's be frank, the best reason why Warhammer 40k is so great is because of the massive volumes of LORE!

[@tyrionas]

it seems to me that you are mixing up dark eldars and eldars, they are two different faction in W40K. Video is nice those, Glory to the god emperor!!!

[@Sectormann]

I think you lumped all eldar factions into the dark eldar which is wrong, there is also the less evil craftworld eldar for example

[@darykeng]

FIrst and most important reason: - Warhammer 40k universe is your "Im have bigger and better stuff!" kid in the nutshell (we all know this kid)

[@HolyknightVader999]

Except Halo and other science fiction universes prove him dead wrong.

[@TheSalamander_]

Not really, 40k just took the very harshest tropes of dark fantasy and sci fi from the 1990s and rolled it into one world and let it breed. I don't think they went "Well we need to look more edgy than everyone else." just "Oh those arachnids are cool, yoink, oh those navigators from dune are cool, yoink, oh the whole setting of judge dread is cool, yoink. Oh shit, we've literally created hell...". Remember 40k was invented in a shed by sci-fi nerds in the late 1980s, and while it grows and develops it's core foundations haven't changed THAT MUCH.

[@HolyknightVader999]

@@TheSalamander_ 40K practically store everything they had from other sources. It's hilarious to see 40K fans accuse franchises like Starcraft and Gears of War of plagiarism, when practically everything in 40K was stolen, one way or another: Imperium of Man: ripped off from the Dune/Star Wars story concerning a powerful psychic emperor leading a space fascist empire. Their Space Marines were stolen from Starship Troopers and mixed with some medieval knight aesthetics, while their empire's religion is a word-for-word ripoff of the Catholic Faith. Chaos: Lifted from Michael Moorcock's Elric series and its conception of Chaos, just change "Chaos Lords" to "Chaos Gods" and steal their symbol for Chaos, the eight-pointed star. Eldar and Orks: Tolkien ripoffs, quite literally. Eldar are elves who look down on the less-advanced humans, get into scuffles with them and occasionally help them. Orks are cannon fodder awash with bloodlust who trouble the realms of men. Tau: Lifted from Star Trek's Vulcans and riding around in Battletech mechs, a more enlightened, scientific race that looks down on the emotional and superstitious humans. Necrons: Terminators with feudal houses. Tyranids: Xenomorphs from Alien. 40K fans are in no position to accuse any other franchise of plagiarism, when their series doesn't have an original bone in its body.

[@aoofmg6684]

@@HolyknightVader999 I'm with you on a lot of points but a few are bogus. The Tyranids have nothing to do with xenomorphs. If you want to compare them then most likely to starship troopers bugs. Space marines have literaly nothing to do with Starship troopers except the name. They neither look like gorillas nor do they fly around in their armor (assault troops have jumppacks) they are basicaly highly romantised knights with guns. The imperium of man is a word for word ripoff of katholics? I'd like to see a sentence that proves this. It is Monotheistic and thats it. No heaven or hell or anything like that. And for the 25 millionth time: The empire is NOT fascist. In Star Wars, maybe but not in 40k. And you have forgotten the Warp which is from star trek. The Necrons may look like Terminator but are the classic fantasy undead faction with egyptian style

[@HolyknightVader999]

@@aoofmg6684 According to the authors themselves, the Imperium is a parody of fascism. That's what I was saying about the Space Marines-they took the name, then made them space knights. Which kinda makes them more a ripoff of the Jedi, except with armor, big guns, and a huge dose of Arnold Schwarzenegger. The Tyranids have plenty of similarities with the Xenomorphs from Aliens. Both them and the Zerg share a lot of characteristics from the Xenomorphs, including the whole "stalking prey inside blacked-out starships" thing. The Imperium stole its creed from Catholicism, the aesthetics of Catholicism, and hell itself is at their gates. They even view the emperor the same way Catholicism views Christ. Warp is not from Star Trek. Star Trek Warp is nothing like 40K Warp, which is more in line with Chaos from the Moorcock books.. The Necrons practically ARE Terminators which got the fantasy undead Egyptian shtick slapped into them.

[@entrippyZ]

I wanna live in this universe, on the condition I'm an ork. If your an ork this universe is actual heaven

[@phreakazoith2237]

but you better be a huge and strong ork to really enjoy being an ork. Otherwise your heaven might be limited to feeding squiggs or being cannon fodder or living ammo.

[@beatsbydgreenie2338]

Y’all ever heard of Bloodbowl?

[@mikaruyami]

Ah yes, we can solve all our problems and differences with a "friendly" game of Bloodbowl.

[@mwnciboo]

Because there is nothing positive or even pleasant about 40k universe...There is no hope.

[@mr.oddball.]

This video is "5/10 It was ok." Just kidding any rating less then 11/10 for this video is heresy and the commissar will be along promptly.

[@starlightglimmer3260]

6:08 thats Princess Celestia a pony empress from my little pony

[@comradesam3382]

FOR THE IMPERIUM OF MAN

[@molliethomas2585]

Actually, the Dark Eldar are a minority faction of the Eldar. The majority of the Eldar race are decended from those who saw the fall of their empire coming and evacuated on massive ships known as Craft Worlds. Craft World Eldar are now the majority of their species, and while enigmatic and aloof, they largely don't bother the Imperium unless the humans are in their way. And they're the ones wielding psychic powers. The Dark Eldar, on the other hand, are decended from the handful of aristocrats who survived The Fall and have not given up their cruel ancestors ways, except for giving up their psychic powers to hopefully avoid the gaze of Slannesh. They take slaves not only out of a sense of superiority, but also to torture those slaves to death in order to not have their own souls devoured.

[@SomeGuy-qh6rw]

That is actually incorrect. Dark Eldar are far, far, far more numerous than the Eldar. For starters, they don't mind cloning themselves, and every description of the size of their city in the Webway, that is always growing as they expand, even if there was one of them per square mile, they'd be up there in numbers I don't even know the name of. Even if the Stars they live around, are the tiniest possible stars. The novels also said, the majority of the survivors fled into the Webway. Not the other way around. Also, if you can trust what some characters have said, which are technically unreliable narrators, (Character statements are never 100%,) they were once so numerous, that even if the vast majority of them were wiped out, they'd still be an incredibly large population. Also, since no one knows how many Dark Eldar a single soul can feed, or how long it lasts, we can't really judge their raiding parties as any sign of their population when they leave the warp.

[@shawnli9775]

Tremble before the majesty of the Emperor, for we all walk in his immortal shadow.

[@TheRaiden316]

So, you're saying it's tie? In all sincerity, I'm surprised at the human imperium. The Emperor was just as wise as he was powerful when he walked among the living, yet the Lord's of Terra have neither received revelation, nor drawn inspiration from him in regards to diplomatic relations in the face of conflict. The Tao and Aldari might be overtly alien in almost every way, but they are the least threatening to the human race by far. Establishing an indefinite cease fire (at the very least) would mean that the imperium could focus its energy and resources on more imminent threats. Allying with the Aldari to crush their dark cousins for good could well result in the forces of chaos being weakened.

[@scheinerchen6471]

"Here my Lord Inquisitor, here is the Heretic" Thats what so many people get wrong, the IoM has good reasons to be so xenophobic. If they would not be as they are the Humans would go extinct. The Aeldari for example would sacrifice a human planet to making there plans work for them. The Tau maybe look not so threatening at the first look but they try to destroy human society for there greater good. Orks want to fight us, the Nids want to eat us, Drukhari torture us and with the last development of the Necrons (pahria nexus)...okay they want to seperate the materium from the warp what would be good for us (no chaosgoods and deamons anymore) but it kills us, so no thank you. The Humans are not the good guys, they fight for there lives.

[@sigmar2331]

In the grim dark future there is only war

[@sonofjack6286]

2:41 There are more than just the Dark Eldar. There are the Craftworlders, who prefer order and honing if their skills so that they can combat Chaos, the Harlequins, who are probably the most proactive anti-Slaanesh faction, and the Exodites, who basically split off from the main Eldar culture to live a life of peace.

[@ultramarinus2478]

Gauss rifles are supposed to "flay" the upper layers of target, not desintegrate the target.

[@firebladeentertainment5739]

As a member of the adeptus mechanicus I want to excuse my bretherens lack of interest in understanding the ancient holy tech we discover for many its sacriligious to take technology apart to understand it, its often even more sacriligious to try to invent new technology. its a sad state of being and i fear that the worship of technology will one day make us despise its use, completely diverging the cult mechanicus from its intended path of worshipping technology by using it respectfully and expanding the knowledge of human kind. (out of character) btw, i REALLY like to roleplay from time to time, pretty sure i didnt do my best techpriest impression though...

[@Mariner797]

Honestly, I am more tired of Versus threads involving Warhammer, especially since it is always from an over-eager fan of the latest sci-fi video game, first it was Halo then Mass Effect, and so on. Actually, Versus contests are shit in general.

[@mortyjhones4068]

yea tbut you just know that if they do try and pit themseves up against 40k the anser is all way. wins a few rounds against A fraction and then gets ground into the dust by B or C freaction. 40K rules them all.

[@Deridus]

40k really only loses against niche universes, anyway.

[@myduckisonqauck7227]

@@mortyjhones4068 legends empire *cough*

[@HIHIHJIHIHIH]

A lot of people fantasize being an imperial guardsman, but few would dare want to be in 40k in reallife.

[@herogamer555]

Why did you keep showing a Warhammer Fantasy map?

[@christophersandidge8257]

Thanks for putting things into perspective for me. I'm sure I'll forget it the first time I watch the world news again, but for the moment, I feel much better. Thanks again. Great video as always. Humanity First!

[@rustkarl]

You hate elves (barring rare exceptions) too? Sweet. Also, BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

[@QooperG28]

@2:22 Eldar I think you got something mixed up there, what you are describing are REGULAR Eldar. Dark Eldar as everything in 40k, are in even more ridiculous, the torturing in stuff is mostly the Dark ones though ^^

[@emperorconstantine1.361]

Sure it’s insane... ...ly AWESOME!!! Also, the Immateriam is also known as the “Warp”, (because of its warping and mutational natural powers) for those who have a bit of trouble saying it.

[@garmisra7841]

Why isn't this IP in our collective consciousness yet at the level of LOTR or the Avengers, Damn it!! THE EMPEROR PROTECTS!

[@mitchellmitting6678]

Warhammer 40K IS insane! And we love it! With all the madness, religious fanatics, evil robots, fungus that literally just believes something and it happens, DAEMONS, a species that is meant to be normal by our standards just being completely standout in this universe, arrogant pointy eared gits, sadistic pointy eared gits, the best horde species ever conceived and all kinds of over the top things that exist because fuck it, why not? But somehow, our modern day world is crazier.

[@terrorcop101]

So two things. One: I kind of want to see a 40K video game that has Space Marines and Imperial Guard fighting on a feudal world, just to see that mix of medieval and space age technology (more literal than usual) fighting against a xeno/Chaos invasion. Two: Generation Films, what are your top 10 favorite fantasy races and what are your top 10 favorite fantasy races that you hate?

[@vougen2901]

"It is the 41st Millennium. For more than a hundred centuries The Emperor has sat immobile on the Golden Throne of Earth. He is the Master of Mankind by the will of the gods, and master of a million worlds by the might of his inexhaustible armies. He is a rotting carcass writhing invisibly with power from the Dark Age of Technology. He is the Carrion Lord of the Imperium for whom a thousand souls are sacrificed every day, so that he may never truly die. Yet even in his deathless state, the Emperor continues his eternal vigilance. Mighty battlefleets cross the daemon-infested miasma of the Warp, the only route between distant stars, their way lit by the Astronomican, the psychic manifestation of the Emperor's will. Vast armies give battle in his name on uncounted worlds. Greatest amongst his soldiers are the Adeptus Astartes, the Space Marines, bio-engineered super-warriors. Their comrades in arms are legion: the Imperial Guard and countless planetary defence forces, the ever vigilant Inquisition and the tech-priests of the Adeptus Mechanicus to name only a few. But for all their multitudes, they are barely enough to hold off the ever-present threat from aliens, heretics, mutants - and worse. To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be re-learned. Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim dark future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods." - Rogue Trader 1987

[@centuriondominicus7871]

I just feel like pointing out, for fun, and for those who DON'T KNOW! Humanity was once powerful enough that both eldar and ORKS signed a peace treaty with them (golden age) because of the sheer ****off ability of planets to wipe all of their rears out.

[@momqabt]

Mixing up drucari and aeldarai is like telling a that they're . Both biological beings. Or mixing up a submarine to a space rocket. Both machines Star Wars with lord of the rings. Both are fiction. Deldar and CWE are millennia divided subspecies of the same original. The differences are astronomical

[@jansndergaard5687]

You might actually be wrong about the Emperor dying if the golden throne is destroyed. The Emperor is, like his primach Vulcan a perpetual. A perpetual cannot truely die, as described in the novel "Vulcan Lives" So if The golden throne is destroyed he will likely regenerate and would actually become whole again. That is unknown by the empire.

[@yemannwaiphyo8817]

Well, no offence, but. . . You are only Scratching the surface. 40k is thousands of times more Terrifying than what you said. Read more. Research more.

[@jamesramon2057]

One thing 40k has over the real world is the lack of identity politics, humanity is united

[@Durtly]

40k is a historical retelling of the life of the Emperor. Once his ascension rips open the warp and consumes the Milky Way circa 41k. He will/has project/projected his consciousness back into time and tells us all about it so he can do it all again as an actual God instead of just being worshipped as one. (The Dark age of Artificial Intelligence will go differently this time).

[@praetorian9823]

Every time I read about the fall of Prospero I get crippling depression. Out of ANYONE that Big E could’ve sent to retrieve Magnus he decides to send the furry who fully admitted he hated Magnus to do it... Magnus should be a damn loyalist, or at least neutral. I’d love to see a story where he breaks free from Tzeentch but then chooses his own destiny. His soul reunited he builds his own little empire and actually shows that when his ego is put aside he can build an Empire that even Big E would be proud of.

[@someracoon76]

This is all true and i know it’s more joking and oversimplifying but thought I would just mention that most imperial planets are just like places you and me live but are not as interesting as the war torn planets like Cadia only about 1/5 is probably these awful hive worlds

[@thevoidlookspretty7079]

Marcus from Cosmonaut Variety Hour put it best. “Nothing in the universe is allowed to be normal.” And the thing that made him say that was that space marines spit venom and breathe water, which is the *MOST* normal thing about them.