What the Resistance Lacked that the Rebellion Had

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@ToddTheTolerable
@ToddTheTolerable 5 жыл бұрын
It lacked proper military structure. Despite all the 70s haircuts, the Rebellion in the movies feels like an actual military run by people who know what they're doing.
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 5 жыл бұрын
It helps that it was founded/supported by a lot of Clone Wars vets.
@HolyknightVader999
@HolyknightVader999 5 жыл бұрын
The Rebels had no shortage of war leaders suited to lead an army: General Jan Dodonna. General Crix Madine. General Carlist Riekan. Admiral Gial Ackbar. The Resistance has Admiral Holdo and Poe Dameron. Alliance: 4, Resistance: 2
@patrickmcglonejr8163
@patrickmcglonejr8163 5 жыл бұрын
*cough* a military not ran by women *cough* and if your gonna say Leia or Mon Mothma "lead" the Rebellion No they didnt, they were the *POLITICAL* Aspects of the Rebellion and had no official military affiliation.
@patrickmcglonejr8163
@patrickmcglonejr8163 5 жыл бұрын
@@HolyknightVader999 you forgot General Iblis.
@HolyknightVader999
@HolyknightVader999 5 жыл бұрын
@@patrickmcglonejr8163 SENATOR Garm Bel Iblis.
@godzillakingofmonsters3056
@godzillakingofmonsters3056 5 жыл бұрын
What’s does the rebellion have the resistance doesn’t, leaders that actually tell their troopers that they have a plan and don’t hold it off till the last second
@nerag7459
@nerag7459 5 жыл бұрын
That's a political movement operating as a covert organization.
@godzillakingofmonsters3056
@godzillakingofmonsters3056 5 жыл бұрын
And it only cost them nearly the entire resistance fleet and killing hundreds of men and woman who died waiting for a plan
@nerag7459
@nerag7459 5 жыл бұрын
That's the problems with cell structures. Sometimes they are a good thing. Sometimes they kill people. The French Resistance had multiple occasions where they found someone in their organization who might be an informer and they were thinking about whether to kill them or let them go. Sometimes they killed them. They might have kept quiet or not have been an informer at all. It is difficult being in a Resistance and know who you can tell and who you cannot. Sometimes people die. Innocent people. Good people. What if they told everyone and there was a traitor in the fleet or they were bugged? The entire point of the movie was that good people can make catastrophic mistakes. Criticizing that is like criticizing opera for having too much singing. I don't know why critics of the movie can't say: "It wasn't the movie I wanted."
@godzillakingofmonsters3056
@godzillakingofmonsters3056 5 жыл бұрын
Actually that would have been a good plot point of having a traitor in the resistance and make you question who to trust
@nerag7459
@nerag7459 5 жыл бұрын
I'm going to agree and mention that this was the EXACT PLOT POINT IN THE LAST JEDI.
@knightmarespawn2690
@knightmarespawn2690 5 жыл бұрын
“What did they lack?” Me: Effective bombers.
@knightmarespawn2690
@knightmarespawn2690 4 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Stiles I’m talking about the the useless Resistance Heavy Bombers.
@knightmarespawn2690
@knightmarespawn2690 4 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Stiles heavy bombers weren’t effective tho.
@polystratgaming1405
@polystratgaming1405 4 жыл бұрын
Good writing
@alexboehm3919
@alexboehm3919 4 жыл бұрын
KNIGHTMARESPAWN because they weren’t used properly
@tigersympathiser2265
@tigersympathiser2265 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexboehm3919 they couldn't be used properly, supposedly the ship was based on the legendary B-17 Flying fortress which ends up more of an insult if anything. The B-17 was capable of surviving damage that would probably fell its predacessors whereas it takes *HALF A TIE FIGHTER WING TO* *TAKE* *OUT* *3* *UNINTENTIONALLY*. You can't use something that shit effectively in any capacity if it's incapable of being useful at all. Plus bombs are dumb in space.
@TheBuckeyeHistoryGuy1776
@TheBuckeyeHistoryGuy1776 5 жыл бұрын
Rebellion: Makes me hate the bad guys Resistance: Makes me like the bad guys
@BenBen-so7qe
@BenBen-so7qe 3 жыл бұрын
Shirtless angry boy with a character arc over hollow Mary Sue
@def3ndr887
@def3ndr887 3 жыл бұрын
the empire still did nothing wrong tho
@slayer45670
@slayer45670 3 жыл бұрын
@@BenBen-so7qe original trilogy Luke is a Mary Sue lol
@BenBen-so7qe
@BenBen-so7qe 3 жыл бұрын
@@slayer45670 how tho
@demonlordoftheroundtable2456
@demonlordoftheroundtable2456 3 жыл бұрын
@@slayer45670 nice bait
@nostradamusofgames5508
@nostradamusofgames5508 4 жыл бұрын
the chad rebellion vs the virgin resistance
@martianimperialcouncil9194
@martianimperialcouncil9194 3 жыл бұрын
I've been searching for this comment and it was worth the search.
@HelloThere-yb8uu
@HelloThere-yb8uu 3 жыл бұрын
This is the most accurate comment
@big_sea
@big_sea 3 жыл бұрын
yes
@OrbInDaFrame
@OrbInDaFrame 3 жыл бұрын
The average resistance fan vs the average rebellion enjoyer
@shauryapallav5674
@shauryapallav5674 3 жыл бұрын
Chad EU new republic vs virgin canon new republic
@dakkarnemo1094
@dakkarnemo1094 5 жыл бұрын
"What the Resistance lacked that the Rebellion had." Good writing.
@bluearrow1103
@bluearrow1103 5 жыл бұрын
A Good Jedi Character.
@bluearrow1103
@bluearrow1103 5 жыл бұрын
@@Vastolorde71 True.
@polystratgaming1405
@polystratgaming1405 4 жыл бұрын
Number 1: good writing
@anthonyraymundobarron1255
@anthonyraymundobarron1255 4 жыл бұрын
The resistance sounds like what would happen in the real world. Major powers ignoring a possible threat. It could also be said that way the first order came to be was like the rise of Natzi German and ther sudden rise to be a threat. What I don't like is that the resistance won. They had no major coordination between the leader and the people.
@mortenpettersen919
@mortenpettersen919 4 жыл бұрын
everything
@golong13
@golong13 5 жыл бұрын
Generations Tech: What the Resistances lacked that the Rebellion had? Me: A better story
@NhBleker
@NhBleker 5 жыл бұрын
golong13 No kidding, I mean the existence of The First Order just doesn’t make any sense as it’s impossible for that large of a force to exist and continue to grow under the noses of everyone in the galaxy.
@Robert53area
@Robert53area 5 жыл бұрын
@@NhBleker ehh the force awaken did it right, they were small and had only one capital ship, and a planet in the outer rim. The last jedi just doesn't make sense, where a bunch of dreadnought just appeared, without a ship building planet like kuat or mon calamari it should take for every to build a capital ship or near impossible
@marcbartuschka6372
@marcbartuschka6372 5 жыл бұрын
@@NhBleker Well, here I disagree. I agree that the story is very poor (I think they should have made the invasion more like the Thrawn-offensive in the old Trawn-trilogie, as a combined assault on political and military fronts who not overpwoer the enemy but simple keep him always under pressure, not AGAIN superweapons and a enemy who is much stronger than the "heroes" - but one who is smarter amd better prepared). But in old canon the Unknown Regions were also a place were a lot of things could happen unseen. The Empire of the Hand grew and exited for more than a decade after the fall of the Empire without knowledge of the New Republic, for example.
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 5 жыл бұрын
@@Robert53area Basically, yeah. TFA did it fine but now it's fucked up by TLJ and the expanded material since then.
@jigolocana7492
@jigolocana7492 5 жыл бұрын
golong13 and originality
@Space_CowboyHD
@Space_CowboyHD 5 жыл бұрын
“The rebellion, even in its earlier days, numbered in the thousands” Yeah... I thought that went without saying, there’s like trillions of sentient life forms in Star Wars, I’d expect the galactic rebellion to start with at a least a few thousand
@nathanielcontreras4408
@nathanielcontreras4408 5 жыл бұрын
but most rebellions start small and local, like the American revolution. mostly started in Boston then spread into the other colonies. but the sw rebellion was bigger because of the direct impact the Switch from republic to empire had and how drastically different it changed.
@TheJarric
@TheJarric 5 жыл бұрын
well when empire was decreed only jedi and separatist remnants resisted it
@nathanielcontreras4408
@nathanielcontreras4408 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheJarric a lot of factions loyal or on good terms resisted it aswell, not just jedi and seppies
@TheJarric
@TheJarric 5 жыл бұрын
@@nathanielcontreras4408 they mainly just whined or tried to work with in empire
@nathanielcontreras4408
@nathanielcontreras4408 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheJarric of course, as most rebellions start
@Moarmmoforme
@Moarmmoforme 5 жыл бұрын
Resistance lacks: surprise, fear, ruthless efficiency, unwavering loyalty to the pope.......and nice uniforms
@BladeFitAcademy
@BladeFitAcademy 5 жыл бұрын
😅😅 and they also don't have a comfy chair.
@Rhino-Prime
@Rhino-Prime 3 жыл бұрын
Character development
@olivermuthu4243
@olivermuthu4243 3 жыл бұрын
A coherent plotline
@Rhino-Prime
@Rhino-Prime 3 жыл бұрын
@@olivermuthu4243 characters actually having consequences
@pug_ze
@pug_ze 3 жыл бұрын
Good bombers
@Mr.Spindle
@Mr.Spindle 4 жыл бұрын
Good writing, good leaders, Han Solo coming out of nowhere to save Luke, a reason for existing, a legitimate government to oppose, a real protagonist, and Mark Hamill's enthusiasm.
@henrybierman8431
@henrybierman8431 3 жыл бұрын
you forgot that Ben kenobi was a way better jedi and mentor than old Luke. also you forgot that the resistance had mary sue the british wonder dummy who always wins.
@Deinobi
@Deinobi 3 жыл бұрын
@@henrybierman8431 "British wonder dummy" is now going in my book of insults
@henrybierman8431
@henrybierman8431 3 жыл бұрын
@@Deinobi thank you
@Deinobi
@Deinobi 3 жыл бұрын
@@henrybierman8431 welcome
@jrev2284
@jrev2284 2 жыл бұрын
@@henrybierman8431 I have watched the sequels exactly once, so my memory is a bit fuzzy. But rey never left knock off tattoine right? Nor has she piloted a star craft? But she can suddenly know how to fly the falcon perfectly righr? Her levels of convenience and mcguffins are astounding
@dadian803
@dadian803 5 жыл бұрын
New Republic in EU=Terrifying opponent with a large navy/army even for the Imperial Remnant New Republic in Disney Canon=newborn pup
@Banzaiiii2223456
@Banzaiiii2223456 4 жыл бұрын
Could have been better actually and if they want an underdog story and make the new republic look like the underdog again they could have had made the New Republic Army be weakened through offensives or a coup d'etat by a dissatisfied general/first order insider or something in line with that. Personally I would have envisioned a Clone wars era magnitude of war where two powers go toe to toe with each other instead of the sequel trilogy we got.
@vikramo6994
@vikramo6994 3 жыл бұрын
True, I think its better if the Imperials look more underdog, but in the middle of the conflict, the vong invade
@vikramo6994
@vikramo6994 3 жыл бұрын
@Hmm Meerkat That is true, but maybe they could take the clone wars style and not explicitly show the violence
@GeneralBlackNorway
@GeneralBlackNorway 3 жыл бұрын
@@Banzaiiii2223456 The prequel trilogy was being shit on by a lot of people so Disney decided to emulate the original trilogy instead. The sequels is what we got because of that. These days people speak of the prequels with such nostalgia, but I remember before the sequels there was little positive being said about them.
@hellothere-bx8cf
@hellothere-bx8cf 3 жыл бұрын
@@GeneralBlackNorway true, faq the sw fans, they're nitties
@evansmoak7286
@evansmoak7286 5 жыл бұрын
I can already tell you what the Resistance lacked. Those sick ass Bicycle helmets
@big_sea
@big_sea 3 жыл бұрын
yeaa
@tirekicker100
@tirekicker100 5 жыл бұрын
"Senator-Princess-General Leia" 😂😂
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 5 жыл бұрын
That’s who she’ll always be to me
@icytrash
@icytrash 5 жыл бұрын
Generation Tech indeed
@tirekicker100
@tirekicker100 5 жыл бұрын
@@GenerationTech you legit had me laughing everytime you said it, mind if i steal it for everyday use?
@LegatusLucius1994
@LegatusLucius1994 5 жыл бұрын
The princess of incest
@Mgauge
@Mgauge 5 жыл бұрын
She’s a woman of that wears a lot of hats atop her cinnamon roll hair.
@Killzoneguy117
@Killzoneguy117 5 жыл бұрын
The difference is this. The Rebellion starts a mission: "All callsigns, report in" The Resistance starts a mission: "I got a message for yo momma" See the difference?
@nevergonnagiveyouup704
@nevergonnagiveyouup704 4 жыл бұрын
al Mamlūk i see it and its a a huge one
@thisisafalseaccount105
@thisisafalseaccount105 4 жыл бұрын
Only difference I see is how they say it, and a thing I noticed those words weren’t spoken before.
@rainbowsixODST
@rainbowsixODST 4 жыл бұрын
@@thisisafalseaccount105 Its the professionalism and attitude. While yes it was funny it was also unprofessional and that seems to be the theme for large parts of the Resistance.
@obijuanquenobi1911
@obijuanquenobi1911 3 жыл бұрын
@Cara Salusc to be fair, there are times where marvel stuff actually has good humor. The sequel doesn’t have any of that.
@konnichiwagerms4071
@konnichiwagerms4071 3 жыл бұрын
@@nevergonnagiveyouup704 i got bloody rickrolled
@sandwich8240
@sandwich8240 4 жыл бұрын
"What did the rebellion have that the resistance didn't" A unique concept
@steveleuchtman2545
@steveleuchtman2545 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@jackmakila3776
@jackmakila3776 3 жыл бұрын
Yes because rebeling against a massive empire isn't an idea that had been around for decades even before the first starwars movie
@darthkenobi6726
@darthkenobi6726 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackmakila3776 A space rebellion against a an entire galactic empire*
@captaingalaxy5265
@captaingalaxy5265 3 жыл бұрын
Disney making new characters CRT C CRT V Make that a bit bigger Make that a bit lighter or darker
@flamebreaker7318
@flamebreaker7318 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackmakila3776 a space rebellion against a galactic empire is what the original idea is
@duncanmcgee13
@duncanmcgee13 5 жыл бұрын
What dont get is why did Mothma disarm the New Republic when the Old Republics lack of armament is what made the Clone Wars possible
@vos7619
@vos7619 5 жыл бұрын
Bad story telling.
@deadshot5007
@deadshot5007 5 жыл бұрын
They didn't want to give empire vibes
@lordfrostwind3151
@lordfrostwind3151 5 жыл бұрын
An unfortunate fatal case of nostalgia blinding her to the dangers of repeating the same mistakes.
@user-Jay178
@user-Jay178 5 жыл бұрын
@@lordfrostwind3151 I think she should have waited a bit and have it done on a small scale
@rickymcgowen6776
@rickymcgowen6776 5 жыл бұрын
@@vos7619 indeed. The Disney Trilogy is a whole mess of fuck ups.
@ianyazbec5829
@ianyazbec5829 5 жыл бұрын
The Resistance: Who are you The Rebel Alliance: I'm you but better
@ContributerWade
@ContributerWade 4 жыл бұрын
And older
@cbcastlecastillo144
@cbcastlecastillo144 4 жыл бұрын
@@ContributerWade but still better
@jacrispy3275
@jacrispy3275 4 жыл бұрын
@@cbcastlecastillo144 - ... But still older.
@memonson5586
@memonson5586 4 жыл бұрын
@@jacrispy3275 Older perhaps But with age...comes wisdom
@jacrispy3275
@jacrispy3275 4 жыл бұрын
@@memonson5586 - not all the time. I've met old people dumb as rocks. Of course, the Alliance is still better, I'm just assing around.
@neofulcrum5013
@neofulcrum5013 5 жыл бұрын
Ships for one thing. A resistance movement should have less then gradually build up. However a paramilitary organization like Leia’s should’ve had more from the get go.
@pyeitme508
@pyeitme508 5 жыл бұрын
Agree!
@morva4498
@morva4498 5 жыл бұрын
Alderaan was antigun.. no guns period.
@neofulcrum5013
@neofulcrum5013 5 жыл бұрын
Tristan Catlett ........umm....why are you bringing up Alderaan?
@morva4498
@morva4498 5 жыл бұрын
@@neofulcrum5013 Leia's family (adopted) is from Alderaan.
@neofulcrum5013
@neofulcrum5013 5 жыл бұрын
Tristan Catlett Im aware but you do know Leia is famous beyond Alderaan right?
@StarFoxHeroSJ
@StarFoxHeroSJ 4 жыл бұрын
What did the Resistance lack? A good name for one. You are a paramilitary organization made to keep an eye on the First Order. You aren't the Resistance, you are basically space Blackwater. I think a more appropriate name would have been Alderran's Spear.
@StarFoxHeroSJ
@StarFoxHeroSJ 3 жыл бұрын
@@ev1450 I used "Alderran's Spear" because they are the Spear that will prevent another Alderran. But I can see your point.
@gamerman782
@gamerman782 3 жыл бұрын
@@StarFoxHeroSJ wouldn't that be "Alderaan's Shield" then, since they are protecting?
@StarFoxHeroSJ
@StarFoxHeroSJ 3 жыл бұрын
@@gamerman782 I went with spear because they are not defending Alderaan, rather they are attacking the people that would cause Alderaan to happen again.
@KingCARROT19
@KingCARROT19 3 жыл бұрын
Good concept, since the resistance didn't become a resistance until the Republic kinda boomed
@fsmith45
@fsmith45 2 жыл бұрын
I always guessed that they were called the resistance because they were resisting the growth of a rising power, rather than rebelling against an already established power
@kawikaahina1759
@kawikaahina1759 4 жыл бұрын
"What the Resistance Lacked that the Rebellion Had" Answer: Good writing
@big_sea
@big_sea 3 жыл бұрын
YESSSSSS
@Adam-oh3vu
@Adam-oh3vu 2 жыл бұрын
and being in a good trilogy
@theonerecker5245
@theonerecker5245 5 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who compared vader to himler rather than hitler
@Dabadi4834
@Dabadi4834 4 жыл бұрын
Who would be Feigelen though
@Ratmeister.
@Ratmeister. 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone knows that Palpatine is Hitler!
@raptordoniv6779
@raptordoniv6779 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ratmeister. Palpatine: Took control of the Republic, caused a genocide, was a dictator, dreamed of an everlasting empire, was eventually defeated because of his arrogance Hitler: Took control of the Weimar Republic, caused a genocide, was a dictator, dreamed of an everlasting German Empire, was eventually defeated because of his arrogance.
@Ratmeister.
@Ratmeister. 4 жыл бұрын
@@raptordoniv6779 **star wars theme**
@aussiejezza
@aussiejezza 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe he's more like Reinhard heydrich... so scary even nazis were happy he died
@apolloknight9521
@apolloknight9521 5 жыл бұрын
What they lack? IS THE HIGH GROUND!!!
@christophermills7693
@christophermills7693 5 жыл бұрын
they dont even have the morale high ground...... and I dont mean the leftist morale garbage.
@apolloknight9521
@apolloknight9521 5 жыл бұрын
christopher mills aaaayyyy! XD
@CaptRex501st
@CaptRex501st 5 жыл бұрын
good writing
@kirillzakharov7336
@kirillzakharov7336 5 жыл бұрын
speaking of high ground, did all jedi in the New Jedi order die after Kylo's turn to the dark side?
@tristangarcia632
@tristangarcia632 5 жыл бұрын
@@christophermills7693 mate, im left wing but even I thought that the politics in the movie were bullshit What normal human being says what Rose said? Or what they pink haired crazy bitch did? XD These new movies barely have any thought behind if you ask me
@PyroPuffs777
@PyroPuffs777 5 жыл бұрын
The rebellion actually had Jedi and people who knew what the Old Republic was like. The resistance seemed to still be fumbling around with nothing much.
@Aeradom2000
@Aeradom2000 5 жыл бұрын
@Dennis Galindez When you think about just how many Jedi existed prior to the Purge, to me it's not so surprising. Actually, the idea that they could possibly kill every Jedi at one time wasn't even feasible as assuming you weren't with the military or at the Coruscant temple, you would at least get warning.
@enjoyfanta9382
@enjoyfanta9382 5 жыл бұрын
Dennis Galindez just due to the shear number of Jedi during the Clone Wars, it’s very easy to believe that many would survive. It’s actually less believable to think EVERY Jedi was killed. As long as a Jedi wasn’t on the front lines or at the Temple, they had a very good chance of surviving. Order 66 was only effective on Jedi currently engaged in battle because they’re too distracted by the fight to react in time. And the Temple attack was successful because the Temple is where the Jedi would least expect to be attacked, especially by clone troopers and Anakin.
@Aeradom2000
@Aeradom2000 5 жыл бұрын
@@enjoyfanta9382 Factor in the fact that clearly, this would create a significant disturbance in the force, and it would make sense there would be a decent number of Jedi to survive the Purge.
@enjoyfanta9382
@enjoyfanta9382 5 жыл бұрын
Aeradom yeah, that’s true. That also goes into the Jedi being distracted by battle. They’d be too distracted to sense that disturbance.
@Aeradom2000
@Aeradom2000 5 жыл бұрын
@@enjoyfanta9382 I can see that for sure, which is why the ones see in the movie got no problems with. But like there would be a lot of Jedi out there that weren't in battle. Actually, shouldn't the Jedi at the Temple had sensed what was going down? I mean, it took time for Anikan to get over there and assemble the troops, right? I don't want to nitpick it, again doesn't bother me, just saying that there'd be a fair number of Jedi to survive. Which, if that wasn't the case, there'd be no need for Inquisitors.
@TheThundergod9
@TheThundergod9 4 жыл бұрын
The rebellion didn’t look like Starbucks drinking hipsters.
@el_tdg
@el_tdg 4 жыл бұрын
Deadass
@tijmenvanderschaar2849
@tijmenvanderschaar2849 3 жыл бұрын
💀💀💀
@CTA12356
@CTA12356 3 жыл бұрын
“Diversity”
@moguldamongrel3054
@moguldamongrel3054 3 жыл бұрын
Ouch...
@big_sea
@big_sea 3 жыл бұрын
yea
@robbybeckmeyer828
@robbybeckmeyer828 4 жыл бұрын
You do a better job worldbuilding the sequels in less than 15 minutes than the sequels themselves do in just over 7 hours
@AB-bg7os
@AB-bg7os 5 жыл бұрын
I think the new trilogy would be better if the roles were reversed. The first order being a secret organization and the new republic being the leader of the known galaxy
@marcbartuschka6372
@marcbartuschka6372 5 жыл бұрын
They should really just adapted the old Thrawn-Trilogy, I would say. His campaign to bring the new Republic down was something unique - the Empire in the position of the underdog, in smaller numbers, but with strong ships, tactical superior and lead by a good commander. A offensive who hits without super-weapons (but sometimes with the illusion of them), which strikes not just the military but also the economy and the will of the enemy to fight on. If they followed that path the film would be better, i think (if they had the courage to show the antagonist not just as a bunch of screaming idiots).
@Aniyah-CHG
@Aniyah-CHG 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 5 жыл бұрын
This comment. The First Order are the Resistance and The Resistance is The Empire.
@Aniyah-CHG
@Aniyah-CHG 5 жыл бұрын
@@purefoldnz3070 Yep it would definitely make more sense too.
@Aeradom2000
@Aeradom2000 5 жыл бұрын
@@marcbartuschka6372 Now if you really wanted your superweapon thing, I think that you have the Thrawn Trilogy condensed to two movies, but then right at the end the Emperor reveals himself, perhaps by destroying Hosnian Prime with Starkiller, though I think I'd just have him use the force as that would be more shocking/surprising. And then the third movie is Luke and Rey seeking out the reborn Emperor to defeat him before he can bring the Empire back. At least in this way, you can show what it's like in the New Republic, and even get to know Hosnian Prime a bit so that when it is destroyed, it's far more of an impact.
@duncanohio
@duncanohio 5 жыл бұрын
The rebellion was in a far better position because they never had to deal with a Rian Johnson
@Aeradom2000
@Aeradom2000 5 жыл бұрын
The FO most powerful ally.
@skullandcrutches
@skullandcrutches 5 жыл бұрын
Derek Duncan Or feminism!
@nerag7459
@nerag7459 5 жыл бұрын
Get princess Leia out of the original trilogy! Braless feminists have no place in this early 70s movie...
@daleford8621
@daleford8621 5 жыл бұрын
@@molobot2529 feminism isn't about strong independent women, it's about man hatred and socialism.
@Agarwaen
@Agarwaen 5 жыл бұрын
@@daleford8621 incel detected
@arandomsquidward7761
@arandomsquidward7761 5 жыл бұрын
I really think that they should have had different leaders or at least more, they had Leia and other veterans, they were good but they were used to the rebellion's fleet and their resources, they had the backing of entire planet's. The Resistance had none of that, they had weak and outdated bombers, little numbers and they just had no clear command chain. They should have spent more time building up their fleets and gaining weapons in secret, but they scratched together a small, under equipped, understaffed force and this was why they were so easily put on the run. The Resistance had decades to stay in secret, they wanted to be like the Rebel Alliance, so they should have been like the Rebel Alliance and stay in the shadows, build themselves up, then fight on semi-even ground.
@jacobgale4792
@jacobgale4792 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly, the Alliance fleet was in the thousands with whole planets backing them, the resistance has like... a handful of ships?
@nutterbotter8308
@nutterbotter8308 5 жыл бұрын
Jacob Gale like five not counting fighters
@OnBrandRP
@OnBrandRP 5 жыл бұрын
and even against all those odds somehow they're going to beat the first order..
@marinerproductions1315
@marinerproductions1315 5 жыл бұрын
Cursed Khien, well, that's plot for ya.
@OnBrandRP
@OnBrandRP 5 жыл бұрын
@@marinerproductions1315 A really bad plot.
@OriginalGazGoose
@OriginalGazGoose 3 жыл бұрын
"Effective leadership? A good navy? An overall effective grand strategy?"
@brenatevi
@brenatevi 4 жыл бұрын
"Where you urinate is just as important as who you are urinating on." That killed me.
@Lobsterwithinternet
@Lobsterwithinternet 5 жыл бұрын
What the Resistance lacked was a strong, hardened exoskeleton to survive the First Order’s attacks as well as powerful pincers to strike their weak points and take control of the battle while crushing the opposition. Just my personal opinion.
@johnlinville8671
@johnlinville8671 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think J.J. just ripped off the original changed a few things then called it fresh and new.
@patrickmcglonejr8163
@patrickmcglonejr8163 5 жыл бұрын
Thats exactly what he did.. I don't see why ANYONE can say it was "original".. an original RIP off sure
@kirillzakharov7336
@kirillzakharov7336 5 жыл бұрын
Rian Johnson is the real ripper of the star wars franchise.
@beardedbjorn5520
@beardedbjorn5520 5 жыл бұрын
Kirill Zakharov In my mind they’re on equal footing. It’s just that RJ was such a prick that people forgot all the dumb shit in TFA
@murphsmodels8853
@murphsmodels8853 5 жыл бұрын
It's how JJ works. Rehash an old story and add lens flares. Look at what he did to Star Trek...
@footclann0043
@footclann0043 5 жыл бұрын
Raise your hand if Rise of Skywalker is gonna be a rip off of ROTJ?
@viperson9818
@viperson9818 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t see how the resistance will succeed in this war with just military experts. Asking for help when your politicians don’t exist, and you’re seen as insurgents. Who knows how many politicians that were on their side survived. I can see the first order senators surviving the attack on hosnian prime. Mon mothma isn’t here and their precious last general is basically hated by the galaxy. Beside a imperial like faction kept somewhat order, the new republic have 0 power. The first order is literally having dominance political maybe, military strength. The resistance military minds and veterans no politicians.
@lordfrostwind3151
@lordfrostwind3151 5 жыл бұрын
It's actually kind of hard to believe the level of screwed the Resistance and Republic are in this war. Strategically speaking, the First Order holds almost all the cards and can easily obliterate their enemy's military capabilities. Politically you're also right, they've dismantled much of the support network for the Resistance and the remaining elements of the Republic will be friendly to the First Order. Individual systems may pose threat, but I don't know how long most of those would last in a protracted war.
@KnightsWithoutATable
@KnightsWithoutATable 5 жыл бұрын
The First Order lacks the forces and manpower to actually control the territory they have now taken. True, they have wiped out the leadership of the New Republic and this government had no military to speak of (every time the "peace" politicians disarm the Galactic Republic, it gets attacked and nearly wiped out after losing the outer rim to crime from lack of presence in the area. You think they would have learned after it happened the 3rd or 4th time) but there are several planets that do have forces that they could bring together to oppose the 1st Order and are very likely to since they have seen just how brutal and destructive they are. The delay in any allies showing up to join the Resistance is from the time delay on the entire galaxy trying to figure out just happened, how big is the threat, and was Starkiller Base actually taken out. That takes travel time, meetings with neighbors, and then marshaling forces to action. I could see this taking weeks, if not a few months, especially as the 1st Order starts showing up at undefended planets and claiming them. The trailer for the next movie shows this cavalry arrival moment. The real question after this is the government that forms after all this is finished being fought over going to keep a well trained and supplied military to ensure that every 50 to 500 years there isn't a galaxy wide conflict? That and will the Force be finally balanced again so that Force worshiping zealots don't cause massive wars again either? The answers in theaters soon...
@Aeradom2000
@Aeradom2000 5 жыл бұрын
@@KnightsWithoutATable You know, you raise something that I've actually been wondering and I can't seem to find an answer too; it's not unrealistic that the New Republic demilitarizes as that is how Republic lasted for previous thousand years. What I'm more curious about is the defense fleets around worlds such as Mon Cala. Sure the Mon Calamari might have opposed the Resistance prior to the destruction of Hosnian Prime, but I'd think in its aftermath, particularly knowing that Starkiller Base was destroyed, they'd be quick to side with the Resistance. And without the Supremacy, I can't imagine that the First Order, which as you point out is relatively small in comparison to the Empire or even legends the New Republic and thus even if they could take Mon Cala, it would cost them dearly. And I'm sure many of the important Core worlds would they own defense fleets as well. So I would assume that eventually, they would side with the Resistance. Though, considering how "well thought out" the logic for this universe has been, they will probably just reinforcements that appear out of thin air.
@KnightsWithoutATable
@KnightsWithoutATable 5 жыл бұрын
@@Aeradom2000 Sympathetic members of various system defense forces. The 1st Order is likely going to seize key production and supply facilities along with hyperspace lane junction systems by rolling into system with large detachments, threaten planetary bombardment, then take over governorship with a token garrison force and commander. The threat of annihilation from the skies should the populous cause trouble is how they will rule, especially since the fanaticism of the 1st Order lets them carry out this threat easily. This will not work on planets like Rodia and especially Mon Cala since they have militias and system fleets that are sizable. The real danger is that if they leave the 1st Order in control of the resource planets and the production centers, they will increase in size steadily and rapidly. It took them decades to build what they have now with almost no resources. With proper ship yards and the entire Galaxy to recruit their brainwashed storm troopers and support personnel from, it would only take them 5 years to have dominance tighter than the Empire did. Anything over the cycle time to train personnel and construct a cruiser in a ship yard slip and they will have become unstoppable. This would likely be a year to 18 months since they would put all resources into expanding their forces. That is a very narrow time to deal with them. Add in the possibility of an automated fleet of MK 1 Star Destroyers that they could get now and could use to blockade shipping and planets and the heroes down't have much time to spare. All in and crush the 1st Order in a single battle is the best option.
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 5 жыл бұрын
@@Aeradom2000 Maybe that is the twist? Some people speculate that Empire fleet in trailer is in fact Republic ISD's (they supposedly have red stripes). So maybe New Republic only hide they fleet, so people wouldn't think bad about them. But maybe they did know about the threat? Who know? It is why you don't judge book in the middle, like hater-hipster like to do.
@petermedico7939
@petermedico7939 5 жыл бұрын
Who is “captain ackbar”? He’s an admiral
@haiqal5333
@haiqal5333 5 жыл бұрын
Captain at the time
@fumarc4501
@fumarc4501 5 жыл бұрын
Should have been the General.
@kennooo535
@kennooo535 5 жыл бұрын
FUmarc navies dont have generals, admiral is highest rank
@theghostanihalater9391
@theghostanihalater9391 5 жыл бұрын
He was a captain during the clone wars. He might of got the periods mixed.
@bagadbilli
@bagadbilli 4 жыл бұрын
He was
@personthing88
@personthing88 4 жыл бұрын
4:04 The funny thing is, is that in legends Having Vader as her father actually worked in her favour with the Noghri. Funny...
@jBread28
@jBread28 2 жыл бұрын
ye
@ProlMLGJoe
@ProlMLGJoe Жыл бұрын
Wdym?
@NewGuy2534
@NewGuy2534 5 жыл бұрын
Just a reminder: Leia became president of the New Republic FIVE TIMES in the EU. You’re welcome.
@gerardclarke1001
@gerardclarke1001 5 жыл бұрын
New republic was also a compotent faction and would've crushed the first order before starkiller base could be completed
@TocRat2009
@TocRat2009 5 жыл бұрын
Now if only Kathleen Kennedy had, I don't know, bothered to read any of the EU and mined them for ideas.
@KillerOrca
@KillerOrca 4 жыл бұрын
@@gerardclarke1001 It took the Yuuzahn-Fucking-VONG to break them, and even THEN it only resulted in them reforming into the Galactic Alliance. Its probably a good thing the Vong aren't canon anymore. The people of the canon verse would shit their pants seeing what they had.
@jovalin5939
@jovalin5939 4 жыл бұрын
@@KillerOrca the Vong would have rolled over the disney canon galaxy in months. They'd have been 0 challenge. EU New Republic/Imperial Remnant had star destroyers, super star destroyers, mon cal cruisers, and a fairly good amount of force users, be they Jedi or otherwise, and the Jedi played a massive role in defeating the Vong.
@KillerOrca
@KillerOrca 4 жыл бұрын
Jovalin Pretty much yeah
@PhantomKippy
@PhantomKippy 5 жыл бұрын
Clone wars veterans or just veterans in general
@charliechuckles2195
@charliechuckles2195 5 жыл бұрын
At this time the clone wars had taken place approximately 50 years prior
@valhalanguardsman2588
@valhalanguardsman2588 5 жыл бұрын
@@charliechuckles2195 average human can live for 80 years at least or 100 if lucky, in wh40k slight age affecting augmentations and medication can make 150 years old look like he just got over 40 (or at least in books about Gregor Eisenhorn something like that) and those are just "slight", im not even talking about the ones that keep old lords of all sorts alive and well
@PhantomKippy
@PhantomKippy 5 жыл бұрын
“Some species age differently”
@IronWarhorsesFun
@IronWarhorsesFun 5 жыл бұрын
A decent plot? Competant leadership? AK 47s?
@valhalanguardsman2588
@valhalanguardsman2588 5 жыл бұрын
@@IronWarhorsesFun woah there! Where did ak-47 came from?
@stevennavarra3209
@stevennavarra3209 5 жыл бұрын
4:00 Young Ben was such an adorable child, that is until he started hanging out with the wrong crowd and got into these worshipping rituals where they all dress in black and there is always some old man there. Soon he started skipping school and had some sort of fight with his uncle, I don't know whats that all about. It doesn't help that his dad is constantly away for months with his best friend Chewey, they just say they're going to a galaxy far far away. They always come back smelling of Ramulan Ale and Arcturian poon tang. Ben won't even answer to his name anymore, he just walks around shirtless wearing high wasted pants and calls himself Kylo. He's at that age I guess, just last night I caught him force choking his chicken.
@markuhler2664
@markuhler2664 5 жыл бұрын
'Force choking his chicken!!! I actually laughed out loud. Gonna hafta borrow that.
@patrickmcglonejr8163
@patrickmcglonejr8163 5 жыл бұрын
That Arcturian poon man... cant blame em.
@nicholsjoshua15
@nicholsjoshua15 5 жыл бұрын
Not to mention his mother was always working and sent him away to somekind of religious boarding school.
@rangerleaf1505
@rangerleaf1505 3 жыл бұрын
WTF
@mr.rhenium3167
@mr.rhenium3167 5 жыл бұрын
What they lack? The resistance: 🎶if I only had a brain🎶
@big_sea
@big_sea 3 жыл бұрын
yes
@camulodunon
@camulodunon 3 жыл бұрын
I get the reference.
@ligerzero5060
@ligerzero5060 5 жыл бұрын
The Rebellion had Luke Skywalker. The Resistance had a Mary Sue The Empire had Darth Vader. The New Order had Shirtless Emo boy.
@tommygranda
@tommygranda 3 жыл бұрын
Very precise 👍🏼👌🏼
@rat161
@rat161 3 жыл бұрын
Correction The empire had a burned cripple with both family and anger issues The first order had a wanna be emo boy
@lonelysatoshi2482
@lonelysatoshi2482 3 жыл бұрын
Another correction The Empire had Darth Vader. The First Order had a w i d e boi.
@nr6_gamer459
@nr6_gamer459 3 жыл бұрын
Wide boi was the only good part of the movie
@sandberg_01
@sandberg_01 3 жыл бұрын
@@nr6_gamer459 Yeah, Adam Driver is carrying the Sequels.
@TheKenji2221
@TheKenji2221 5 жыл бұрын
What they lacked ? A competent and actually scary adversary ? Seriously, other than big guns, they don't pose much threat. No wonder no one believed in their attack
@Mortenhendriksen
@Mortenhendriksen 5 жыл бұрын
True
@lordfrostwind3151
@lordfrostwind3151 5 жыл бұрын
Which is sad because the First Order could be amazing and should be in a position to utterly dominate their enemies to the point that the Cylons on Battlestar Galactica would be envious. But alas, they're more the successors to the Spaceballs than the Galactic Empire.
@Aeradom2000
@Aeradom2000 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if someone were to show me footage of Hux and Ren, I doubt I'd really be that concerned either, particularly after their leader Snoke is killed so easily. Jeremy Jahns actually made a video about this that is really good. Highly recommend it.
@robertosabado4955
@robertosabado4955 4 жыл бұрын
FO was actually convincingly scary in FA, especially with Hux speech scene. If they had built more upon that, then it would've been able to properly establish a solid picture of the FO as a real threat. Sadly the characters that were detrimental to develope such a storyline: Hux, ,Snoke and Phasma were sacrificed for no good reason.
@TheKenji2221
@TheKenji2221 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertosabado4955 "Convincingly scary in FA" ? "Especially Hux speech" ? Have we watched the same movie ? Cause other than building another deathstar, destroying 5 randoms planets no one cared about and a random village no one cared about. They didn't do anything scary. The only reason why they were "scary" was because the Republic was full of retards. That's not called scary, it's called opportunistic. And don't get me started on Hux's baby Hitler wannabe speech. He was ridiculous. He looked like a baby who got his candy stolen by his sibling.
@commonsense5199
@commonsense5199 5 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad that Alan acknowledges that Rebel alliances are more funded by sympathizers than the Resistance, the Resistance could have a B wing if they have more sympathizers from the NR Navy. The Centrist did funded the First Order's ships and weapons it explains a lot and It's most likely Kazuda Xiono's Dad is one of them, I actually enjoy Star Wars Resistance was actually political about the first order's goal such as Tam see them as good police giving them protection, Kaz view them as conquers that takes away people's fun and freedom.
@sheevone4359
@sheevone4359 5 жыл бұрын
Well now we'll see B-Wings and Y-Wings again in TROS so they had to get them from somewhere.
@marinerproductions1315
@marinerproductions1315 5 жыл бұрын
Common Sense, basically how the Empire and Alliance were separated in the Galactic Civil War. Many people, such as Iden Versio only knew the Empire as a peacekeeping organization which brought stability to the galaxy, even viewing Alderaan as a necessary evil to end the war. Others, like Wedge Antilles saw the Empire as a bureaucratic fascist organization dedicated to bringing pain and suffering to anyone who steps out of line, which by stepping out of line I mean anyone who stands quietly in line and gets arrested and/or shot randomly because of paranoia. Politics are confusing and fucked up on so many different levels, I'm surprised the people haven't started a revolution to just end politics altogether. Also, if there were FO sympathizers in the Hosnian system, why the fuck didn't the FO warn them? You basically just vaporized your richest and most influential supporters. Why are people in Star Wars so dumb?
@greyhunter3271
@greyhunter3271 5 жыл бұрын
@@marinerproductions1315 most of the bad guys in the movies are pretty dumb honestly. Evil because we're evil. Realistically the FO would have warned there supporters. (Perhaps they did and we didn't see, but Disney didn't show so it didn't happen as far as I'm concerned) I also think they would just had used the weapon on a uninhabited system to prove a point.
@Aeradom2000
@Aeradom2000 5 жыл бұрын
@@greyhunter3271 If that sort of thing worked, then there would have been no reason to bomb Japan as the weapon test would have sufficed. For a WMD to serve as an effective deterrent, you not only have to show it's effectiveness, but also a willingness to use it.
@IronWarhorsesFun
@IronWarhorsesFun 5 жыл бұрын
FUND THE RESISTANCE ON PATREON!
@martonmakhult3416
@martonmakhult3416 5 жыл бұрын
They had dozens of interesting scenarios how to continue the main plot of this conflict.. and they choose the Evil space imperialists vs rebels setup all over again.. for what? For cheap nostalgia? I have seen better non canon fanfictions than this current concept..
@Aeradom2000
@Aeradom2000 5 жыл бұрын
This has Disney written all over it as what would be more marketable than just rehashing what they already work? It makes more sense from a business perspective than doing something like the Thrawn Trilogy or the Vong invasion. Not as many merchandising opportunities in either of those cases. These people didn't even have the balls to blow up Coruscant.
@chrom-manandrobin7983
@chrom-manandrobin7983 3 жыл бұрын
They didn’t even have to be that creative with the sides. They could’ve just had: New Republic= Big Fish First Order= Small fish That way they could still keep the ol’ major power vs small enemy, just have the protagonists be on the big boy side
@nap0038
@nap0038 5 жыл бұрын
“What the Resistance Lacked that the Rebellion Had.” Originality, interesting characters, charm, uniqueness, underdog-ness, etc.
@nerag7459
@nerag7459 5 жыл бұрын
Ahem prequel trilogy...
@lolmeme69_
@lolmeme69_ 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, they have under-dogness alright. So much so to the point that there is no logical reason they should be able to beat the FO, making us pissed when there's a deux ex machina that lets the Resistance win rather than cheering at their hard won victory.
@sam8404
@sam8404 4 жыл бұрын
@@nerag7459 what about the prequel trilogy? It is a lot better than the sequel trilogy.
@nerag7459
@nerag7459 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm. Disagree. The prequel trilogy has good design but really bad awkward writing. The sequel trilogy has some questionable choices but the story is better.
@lolmeme69_
@lolmeme69_ 4 жыл бұрын
@Nerag So a rip off of an existing movie based purely on nostalgia factor and nothing more, a film which destroys every character in the story with it's contrary nature and extreme cringe tier humor, and a movie that is also a rip off of a pre-existing movie and is also pure nostalgia bait is better than a trilogy about how a pure-hearted boy who dreams of becoming a jedi and saving his fellow slaves falls into darkness and becomes the galaxy's worst terror? A trilogy about how democracy is subverted by the slogan of safety and order, little by little and is one of the most relevant stories today?
@miguelvizuetecano6449
@miguelvizuetecano6449 4 жыл бұрын
"What did they lack?" Me: originality
@henrybierman8431
@henrybierman8431 3 жыл бұрын
also you: posts the same comment that twenty people already posted
@apilolomi
@apilolomi 3 жыл бұрын
@@henrybierman8431 Sad but true
@jdon6484
@jdon6484 5 жыл бұрын
So they have the same ships, aesthetic, characters, monarchist enemy, space station they have to blow up that destroys planets, and underdog status but if you read the comics then they have a few differences. So basically what you’re saying is they’re cashing into nostalgia so hard that to really notice the differences between these two groups is to read some graphic novels that are completely separate from the movies that only the hardcore fans buy. Nice. Good work Disney.
@CharterForGaming
@CharterForGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Comics and tv shows mainly serve as the "clean up" for when a new movie is released and shits all over the place
@Aeradom2000
@Aeradom2000 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah pretty much. And I do get why Disney does it, as it's the safe option to sell merchandise as it's already been proven to work. I mean, let's say they did something out of the box, like an invasion from an outside force like the Yuuzhan Vong. That would be a bit harder for the casual audience to get behind I think as it's not so simple. It's the reason why we don't technically have Gray Jedi anymore, it's easier to market to kids the idea there are just two sides and that's it.
@rozzaziobrown6515
@rozzaziobrown6515 5 жыл бұрын
@@Aeradom2000 if the last jedi had embraced the idea of grey jedi it could've been really good. I was hoping that was what they were building up to but then they sort of just forgot about it
@Raeinok
@Raeinok 5 жыл бұрын
I hope we see some Republic era ships salvaged by the resistance, some Venators and Arc 170's.
@mactavish313
@mactavish313 5 жыл бұрын
Doubtful, designs are 5 decades old at this point. many ships like y wings and headhunters were so scarce 50 years later
@KaiserMattTygore927
@KaiserMattTygore927 5 жыл бұрын
They would be ancient by this point, i already find them using Y wings ridiculous as it is.
@apolloknight9521
@apolloknight9521 5 жыл бұрын
Or maybe some Salvaged CIS Ships
@Raeinok
@Raeinok 5 жыл бұрын
@@KaiserMattTygore927 Yeah but when it's all you can get your hands on.
@MarqwizMusic
@MarqwizMusic 5 жыл бұрын
These designs were already mostly antiquated by the time of the Galactic Civil War, let alone 30 years later
@Lavenderblood111
@Lavenderblood111 4 жыл бұрын
Even with plot armor, the resistance still can't compare.
@baalplays7855
@baalplays7855 5 жыл бұрын
4:35 Churchill was already considered a warhawk and a dangerous man by the other parties during WW2
@joaquindubini3681
@joaquindubini3681 2 жыл бұрын
The Resistence lacked any form of writting cohesion. Ending up with a bunch of great ideas that just never went anywhere.
@theogking8309
@theogking8309 5 жыл бұрын
The fact that the new republic hated Leia doesn't really make sense to me. She was tortured by Vader and didn't even know he was her father until the end. Why would she fight so hard against the Empire if she was just gonna be like him anyway? Wouldn't she just join him?
@TheTrueAdept
@TheTrueAdept 5 жыл бұрын
The same reason why Germans can't chase off the stigma that Germans = Nazis despite the fact that most leaders of the various German state would have simply executed them post-haste. Irrationality. When someone is beyond horrific, you demonize them pretty fucking quick. Vader was that bad as a person, which is seen with the Hitlers, an entire bloodline ended because of just one madman that shared the last name.
@TheTrueAdept
@TheTrueAdept 5 жыл бұрын
@L1qu1d S1lenc3r The same reason why the Germans are still dealing with that stigma. For the rest of the 20th century and a good decade of the 21st, they had to deal with the entire German equals Nazis speel.
@controbot2557
@controbot2557 4 жыл бұрын
Still doesn't make sense that people other than the core group would know. Since the only people who definately knew about Leia and Luke's father are Bail, Obi-wan and Yoda and all three of them are not gonna run their mouths off
@theogking8309
@theogking8309 4 жыл бұрын
@@controbot2557 All of them died before Leia found out that Luke was her brother and Vader was her Father. I'm sure Han, Leia, Luke, and maybe even Lando would know about it. Or perhaps Luke had to tell the rebellion about everything but I just don't think people would view Leia as a threat like that. She was down in the trenches with those same people in the civil war era.
@CalRizz
@CalRizz 3 жыл бұрын
“What did the resistance lack??” Originality
@Adam-oh3vu
@Adam-oh3vu 2 жыл бұрын
and dope ass eggshell helmets
@user-Jay178
@user-Jay178 5 жыл бұрын
The rebel alliance had a whole lot of support becuase the galaxy saw and felt all the evil the Galactic Empire was doing, while the first order hid in the unknown regions and build it self up the whole galaxy thought they were just a small group of imperial loyalist, while the resistance tried to expose the first order which had little effect and while they had New Republic backing it was really small and had outdated and slow ships and most of the galaxy thinks their dead from First order propaganda and most planets would not support them out of fear that their star system or planet would be destroyed. Great video
@Aeradom2000
@Aeradom2000 5 жыл бұрын
You know what else the Rebel alliance had? It wasn't just one cell, but many cells that eventually came together. Effectively the Resistance would just be one cell if this was back in the time of the Rebel Alliance. The reason it was as resilient in the beginning is that even when and if the Empire destroyed one cell, there was always another to take it's place.
@themedivaltrainerdawson4951
@themedivaltrainerdawson4951 3 жыл бұрын
"What did they lack?" Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, ships, money, brains, and Iden Versio.
@Jmnzz
@Jmnzz 4 жыл бұрын
"What the Resistance Lacked that the Rebellion Had" Good writers.
@zanger4002
@zanger4002 5 жыл бұрын
"where one urinates is equally as important as who one urinates on"
@yjefecustom
@yjefecustom 4 жыл бұрын
Was waiting to see this comment
@stolasgoetia93
@stolasgoetia93 5 жыл бұрын
What the resistance lacked that the rebellion had? Me: For one thing a better name... I am truly surprised Disney did not name them the Resisty or something. (I am aware Resisty exists in Invader Zim)
@duffzilla1292
@duffzilla1292 5 жыл бұрын
I noticed that Lego Anakin’s starfighter on the shelf behind you, good set, oversized for the figures but it has to be for kids to play with
@voctur
@voctur 5 жыл бұрын
It can be modified to have better proportions. Someone made a video about how to do that with Obi-wan's fighter, and looks like both sets are pretty much the same built
@raginasiangaming910
@raginasiangaming910 4 жыл бұрын
"Most people were pretty much undecided" Sounds like how Disney has approached creating Star Wars movies.
@communismwithgiggles2515
@communismwithgiggles2515 4 жыл бұрын
"What did they lack?" Effective command and backstory, like I thought they were the militia of the new republic, why are they called the "resistance" when the First Order is the breakaway faction?
@derth9230
@derth9230 3 жыл бұрын
I WAS WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO SHOW THIS BECAUSE IT WOULD'VE BEEN EPIC FOR THE NEW GOVERNMENT TO FACE OFF AGAINST THE EVIL FO INSTEAD OF HAHAHAHAH THIS PLANET GO BOOM BOOM WITH RESOURCES AND SHIPS WE AREN"T EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE
@ProlMLGJoe
@ProlMLGJoe Жыл бұрын
Templin's interpretation of the Resistance made much more sense imo.
@orbaitv5991
@orbaitv5991 5 жыл бұрын
Ok but what about the fact that after episode 8 they got more ships, more people and more allies fighting against the first order?
@notawarcultspy8994
@notawarcultspy8994 5 жыл бұрын
Plot armour.
@observer2484
@observer2484 5 жыл бұрын
@@notawarcultspy8994 Even bigger than Rebellion had
@notawarcultspy8994
@notawarcultspy8994 5 жыл бұрын
@Dennis Galindez Not necessarily. A power play like that would have the exact opposite effect. Who would want to fuck with someone who could wipe out an entire system?
@deadshot5007
@deadshot5007 5 жыл бұрын
@@allan7380 Too scared and shocked
@Mortenhendriksen
@Mortenhendriksen 5 жыл бұрын
@@allan7380 that one is the more believable part. Unless these fleets we're ready to jump and was packed and refueled, they would need to do that first. Then comes discussions in between the crews. Plus dessertion isn't that easy if your loyal to your home world. Plus what about your family? What if you join and they find out and take it out on your family? A lot of things happen both practically and mentally.
@protoclone138
@protoclone138 5 жыл бұрын
Good point on "the message". Rebellion had the message "You know the Empire. We're not like them.". While the Resistance has "Remember the Empire? They're still a threat.". Sort of a case of a call to arms and someone beating a dead horse, so to speak.
@NortheR2301
@NortheR2301 5 жыл бұрын
The rebellion didn't have disney to screw them up
@da-vidcargill4975
@da-vidcargill4975 5 жыл бұрын
r you done crazyhead
@NortheR2301
@NortheR2301 5 жыл бұрын
@@da-vidcargill4975 no I'm not, not until they stop making bad SW movies.
@nerag7459
@nerag7459 5 жыл бұрын
No Star Wars trilogy has ever been stuffed up *considers prequels*
@TheAquaAuthor
@TheAquaAuthor 5 жыл бұрын
@@nerag7459 The prequels were good stories, they weren't acted well. The new star wars trilogy are bad stories, with bad acting.
@TheAquaAuthor
@TheAquaAuthor 5 жыл бұрын
@@nerag7459 also, it's not longer hip and cool to hate on the prequels, people like them now because of 7 & 8
@thestuglife8384
@thestuglife8384 3 жыл бұрын
"showing us that where one urinates is equally as important, as who they are urinating on" laughed my ass of at that line
@nathanielkemple2356
@nathanielkemple2356 4 жыл бұрын
The Rebellion had good writing...
@s4m_1223
@s4m_1223 5 жыл бұрын
Resistance: *This(Different unique fighters)* brilliant. But I like *this(Same but different X-Wing fighters that Rebels used).*
@allenrosales9738
@allenrosales9738 5 жыл бұрын
X-Wings were perfectly serviceable fighters, they can jump Hyper Space without being attached to a transport, making much of their effectiveness. X-Wings are also pretty maneuverable and fast, and they have shields, something Tie Fighters lack
@justnoob8141
@justnoob8141 5 жыл бұрын
Allen Rosales pretty sure it is obsolete by this point
@allenrosales9738
@allenrosales9738 5 жыл бұрын
Just Noob It may have been obsolete, but why throw something that has proven it can be just as effective? The US Army still uses the M2 Heavy Barrel 50. Cal Heavy machine gun, which was in service since the 1920s because it was effective and reliable, same goes for the X-Wing
@justnoob8141
@justnoob8141 5 жыл бұрын
Allen Rosales I mean it is so obsolete that it should’ve been for collector by this point and New Republic got a better and cooler design one, like biplane to modern warfare obsolete
@random7thgraderyeet432
@random7thgraderyeet432 5 жыл бұрын
They missing a smuggler that has blaster better then any hokie religions
@MrGoesBoom
@MrGoesBoom 5 жыл бұрын
The problem with the Rebellion is they restored the Republic to how it had been before Palpatine...completely, with no fixes to the MASSIVE problems that let the Empire come into being in the first place. While the Sith had helped they barely had to do anything, the Republic was rotting to begin with. So small wonder everything went to shit so soon after the Epire was disbanded and the New Republic came about.
@TheTrueAdept
@TheTrueAdept 5 жыл бұрын
It's called 'Old World Blues' mate, where people basically go forward by walking backwards. Much of the Alliance has this particular mentality... and it screwed them over.
@James35142
@James35142 4 жыл бұрын
Same thing with Luke's new jedi order. Why give people an emotional safety net when you can do exactly what ruined the old jedi and keep people from their loved ones?
@thehalfcanadian1778
@thehalfcanadian1778 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy how this 12 minute video explains the first order and the resistance better than the movies did
@ReddCrystal
@ReddCrystal 4 жыл бұрын
The resistance was formed out of the confidence built after the fall of the empire. They didnt take the warnings, and didnt do enough research into what they were doing. They assumed it would be just like the previous war and didnt consider their real options. If it weren't for Ray's sheer force ability and the clumsy weakness of kylo ren, sheev would have won before anyone even knew he was still alive.
@dylanjohnston5848
@dylanjohnston5848 5 жыл бұрын
Really liked your comparison of the two factions, and honestly, I think it's a fair statement. The Rebel Alliance was way better off than the Resistance is in the new era of Star Wars films. I'm interested to see after Episode 9 how the Resistance stacks up, maybe do a before and after comparison of what the Resistance had to the end of the Episode 9 when the faction faces off against the Empire/First order fleet from the Unknown Region. Haha, maybe we will see a return to the Rebel Alliance once again, but it's all up in the air. It would be interesting if say, a small Republic fleet/force had survived the First Orders attack and actually came to the rescue of the Resistance. Anyway, overall, a great comparison.
@DarkApostleNoek
@DarkApostleNoek 5 жыл бұрын
Yes still some of the fleet yet guarding the borders, though unknown how many are left once the First Order started moving their ships in.
@Mortenhendriksen
@Mortenhendriksen 5 жыл бұрын
What did the resistance lack that the rebellion had? Easy: Good uniforms Good leaders Military leaders A fleet Reel tactics Experience Support A goal
@luxeternity
@luxeternity 5 жыл бұрын
Blame whoever wrote that Mon mothma disarm the new republic ( who the fuck did that ) .. star wars legends still view the empire as a threat even when they break up into multiple warlords after ROTJ and maintain a large fleet and army to deal with any comeback
@goodmind4940
@goodmind4940 5 жыл бұрын
@@luxeternity Chuck Wendig?
@pickeljarsforhillary102
@pickeljarsforhillary102 5 жыл бұрын
"Reel tactics" That makes the Mon Calamari nervous!
@footclann0043
@footclann0043 5 жыл бұрын
Originality for $500 Alex?
@sernwuub4014
@sernwuub4014 5 жыл бұрын
PickelJars ForHillary lmao i had a good laugh from that, calamari rings anyone
@spiderxand
@spiderxand 5 жыл бұрын
The way I see it? The Rebellion has bigger balls. Also I would like to mention that your shelf is sweet. Where'd you get it?
@isaiaheggebrecht1930
@isaiaheggebrecht1930 5 жыл бұрын
A good plot line, useful characters, and good leaders that don’t keep secrets and then suicide....looking at you miss purple hair.
@Angel_Love6680
@Angel_Love6680 3 жыл бұрын
Admiral Gender Studies
@ProlMLGJoe
@ProlMLGJoe Жыл бұрын
Just a reminder that Leia was a much better female lead than Rey.
@moj1782
@moj1782 3 жыл бұрын
"What did they lack?" They kinda lacked more fleet ships and more faster bombers, the ones they used are literally hot air balloons but tesla truck
@Gary_The_Metro
@Gary_The_Metro 5 жыл бұрын
"What the Resistance Lacked that the Rebellion Had" a good trilogy
@yonghominale8884
@yonghominale8884 5 жыл бұрын
Your initial analysis is correct. The Resistance is a cheap copy of the Rebellion. The whole point was licensing for Bad Robot/JJ Abrams. Here's hoping that Lucasfilms does the right thing and the first few minutes of Rise of Skywalker is the New Republic navy curb stomping the First Order.
@Sam-xq9rp
@Sam-xq9rp 5 жыл бұрын
“Command of Chain” any military member watching this *cringes*
@cb8810
@cb8810 5 жыл бұрын
Correction: Chain of Command.
@katieshadowsong4665
@katieshadowsong4665 5 жыл бұрын
Sam Nestor it’s not even just military members, it’s more like anyone who knows how to say words
@jacobp.2024
@jacobp.2024 5 жыл бұрын
The command of chain is important most work military.
@Sam-xq9rp
@Sam-xq9rp 5 жыл бұрын
The Joker exactly
@fumarc4501
@fumarc4501 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone with an ideal of organization and pride in bureaucracy. This hurts me.
@skylarsorell9212
@skylarsorell9212 2 жыл бұрын
Despite these differences, the presentation and premise of the First Order and Resistance within the films screamed a lack of overall creativity from Disney. They really should've made both sides look a bit more distinct than their OT counterparts
@papayayeet9041
@papayayeet9041 3 жыл бұрын
Rebellion: Has a proper army and the best characters such as luke skywalker, han solo and chewbacca Empire: Epic boi darth vader and a master manipulator emperor, with a huge army Resistance: Has terrible bombers, wasted character that had so much potential and chance of being the main character (im talking about finn) but no they have a girl that dosent even deserve being a jedi First order: Emo boy with anger problems with a laser sword with bad army
@markuhler2664
@markuhler2664 5 жыл бұрын
The First Order has one of the most powerful, evil individuals ever seen. Kathleen Kennedy.
@justyouraveragem4a136
@justyouraveragem4a136 5 жыл бұрын
Wait! The Resistance has a Mary Sue on their side though!
@OllamhDrab
@OllamhDrab 5 жыл бұрын
It seems something is seriously lacking in storytelling, characterization, and possibly understanding humanity if it's found necessary to have everyone else in the world being kind of dumb in order to make the heroes (and villains) look good by comparison. There's a whole lot of stupidity and crassness in charge in the actual world right *now,* and ...that's hardly inspiring a lot of great stories or even great art, just a lot of cynicism and darkness.
@justyouraveragem4a136
@justyouraveragem4a136 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@OllamhDrab
@OllamhDrab 5 жыл бұрын
@@justyouraveragem4a136 Yaknow, even to the point of it seems even fandom has a bunch of kids who think it's trendy to root for the bad guys cause 'everything's been made stupid.' ...but they're too young to remember what it was like before anyone was 'woke' on any kind of level. They only see that this can be frustrated by stupidity, and the stupidity offers them the release of scapegoats and ...nihilism. I mean, even when we were punk rockers, it was based on a notion that better-ness *existed,* if you didn't surrender to bigotry and submission to greed and such back when that was more 'comfortable.'
@nerag7459
@nerag7459 5 жыл бұрын
Luke is a male Mary Sue.
@lolmeme69_
@lolmeme69_ 5 жыл бұрын
Nerag You're saying that the whiny, selfish kid who is called to adventure because *hormones* is a Mary Sue? Who gets his hand cut off in his first fight with Vader? The one who has to be rescued by Obi Wan after getting beaten up at a bar?
@mr.h1083
@mr.h1083 5 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t matter who had what. The Grand Clone Army of the Republic outranks them all.
@space_racc
@space_racc 5 жыл бұрын
Experience outranks everything
@Bruh-hq1hx
@Bruh-hq1hx 4 жыл бұрын
And when the reconquest of the rim happened the CIS Propaganda was actually right
@JCDenton2012Modder
@JCDenton2012Modder 4 жыл бұрын
Stops at 4:20. If I may suggest a better analogy. It would be as if Theodore Roosevelt resigned as Secretary of the Navy to lead The Rough Riders on an Invasion of Cuba.
@abiezerEscude
@abiezerEscude 3 жыл бұрын
I think that were the sequels written and fleshed out a bit more, they could have been very good and added beautifully to the original trilogy as well as the shows and prequels. Genuinely enjoyed this video.
@a0zuniverse
@a0zuniverse 5 жыл бұрын
"Showing us that where one urinates is equally as important as who they're urinating on."
@Sjiroe
@Sjiroe 4 жыл бұрын
"What did they lack?" Me: Better uniforms
@kiyanhakim384
@kiyanhakim384 4 жыл бұрын
Alan: what the resistance lacked that the rebellion had me, an intellectual: good fucking writing
@commenterofreason3478
@commenterofreason3478 5 жыл бұрын
New Republic Vs. non-empire style enemy would’ve been much more fresh, original, and organic than what we saw already with the sequel trilogy (ie rebellion vs empire 2.0). It would’ve been awesome to see the good guys being the great New republic who’ve in the last 20 or so years been restoring their military and space forces, and become just as great as the republic before them. And for the bad guys to be something completely new and original, not on the scale of the yuuzangvan, but something new but fitting in a mainline Star Wars movie.
@cheezeyman9706
@cheezeyman9706 3 жыл бұрын
It would have been awesome if episode 7 focused more on the grand moffs duking it out for control over the remainder of the empire and the new republic trying to continue a campaign to continually put pressure on the empire and weed it out while at the same time these splinter groups like the first order were attacking the new republic from out of nowhere and forcing them to fight a battle on 2 different fronts. This would have created a great opportunity for a tv series that focused on people in the trenches of the campaigns that the new republic was waging and give us more insight on the various moffs and enemies that the republic was up against.
@beast3911
@beast3911 4 жыл бұрын
LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE
@Adam-oh3vu
@Adam-oh3vu 2 жыл бұрын
FOR THE EMPIRE
@sunbakedspace9421
@sunbakedspace9421 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine fighting for a galaxies freedom only to get hated by when returned. Should’ve let the galaxy burn
@tigersympathiser2265
@tigersympathiser2265 4 жыл бұрын
The understanding that bombs require gravity for one thing. People who didn't have purple hair is probably a bad tradeoff too.
@gamerman782
@gamerman782 3 жыл бұрын
Thrawn Trilogy would have been so much better. If I recall correctly, the Resistance in that trilogy was more of a militia kept around until the New Republic was stabilized, unlike here where they are resistance is just there to be the "plucky underdogs"
@floricel_112
@floricel_112 3 жыл бұрын
competent leadership? An actual fleet? Actual plans of attack and evacuation procedures?
@GimmieTheJimmie
@GimmieTheJimmie 5 жыл бұрын
An Aesthetically more pleasing military
@Aeradom2000
@Aeradom2000 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know how you can say that as the militaries are pretty much the same, particularly in the new movie coming up it seems.
@lolmeme69_
@lolmeme69_ 5 жыл бұрын
Aeradom Oh, it's like a discount design. It's similarly designed, but it's just...uglier. Not sure where to start.
@Aeradom2000
@Aeradom2000 5 жыл бұрын
@@lolmeme69_ Off-Brand Rebellion. Like those "Great Value" alternatives you see at Walmart.
@EggGuy461
@EggGuy461 Жыл бұрын
The resistance also lacked intelligents.
@sblinder1978
@sblinder1978 5 жыл бұрын
I wish there was some way Disney Lucasfilm could have given us a summary like this before Last Jedi. Would have helped immensely.
@daxtertalon4
@daxtertalon4 3 жыл бұрын
The rebels were so awesome it took me years to disassociate the word rebel with good guys fighting against evil guys. What the resistance lacks is my interest.
@oliviabean8264
@oliviabean8264 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for yet another look at the politics and context of the star wars universe! Also you are pretty bang on when it comes to comedy, not a lot of people on youtube can sell a joke with a simple passing look on their face.
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