Why Didn't the Jedi Stop Slavery?

[@Thnielsen85]

Qui-Gon actually tries to include Anakins mother in the wager, but Watto refuses.

[@sethfinberg348]

"No pod is worth 2 slaves. Not by a long shot". Watto

[@Eeep_Z1]

EA Watto: Only money

[@cormacmacsuibhne2867]

@@jondeoliveira8248 Have you watched the Generation Tech video on accents in star wars?

[@cormacmacsuibhne2867]

Thnielsen85 shame though Watto refused.

[@cormacmacsuibhne2867]

@@sethfinberg348 It would probably be worth a billion slaves now since it belonged to Darth Vader.

[@byzantine2516]

Because Yoda looked into the future, saw Leia in a medal Bikini, and said "hot that is. Must happen, that must."

[@randomlyentertaining8287]

I think the second part would be closer to "Hot, that is. Happen, that must." else he'd have been saying "That is hot. That must must happen." Unless that's what you were going for, then sorry for the grammar nazi routine XD

[@byzantine2516]

@@randomlyentertaining8287 Correct you are. Mess up, I did.

[@istvansipos9940]

"much intimate with each other, our species must grow. The far-shining beacon of awesomeness, that will be."

[@mrkiwigamer3634]

@@byzantine2516 any body else read that stuff in yodas voice in my head or just me?

[@byzantine2516]

@@mrkiwigamer3634 Might just be you mate : )

[@toadthewhite2594]

Fans: The Empire was horrible for enslaving their own citizens. Republic: Literally breeds small children for war .

[@nikitaheredia416]

Super Nerd Seismitoad 🍾🍾🥂🥂 could have said it better.

[@steilkurbler4973]

Wasn't the clone army ordered by one single jedi and they proceeded to use it, just because it was the next best thing?

[@calmgoodfire4662]

El Gusanillo Del Juego they could’ve but that doesn’t matter because the argument is universal slavery not slavery of one group

[@Reverse_Hood]

Edgelords: Jedi and Sith are exactly the same

[@10spots18]

@El Gusanillo Del Juego they pretended they did but behind the scenes used it themselves, they enslaved the wookies

[@sayvionwashington1939]

Remember: Jedi aren't kid snatchers. They're Midiclorian enthusiasts

[@roaringchicken4219]

Famous for recreational mind expansion

[@daniels7907]

@@richardscathouse - Well that puts Yoda and Mace Windu's close relationship into a new and highly-disturbing perspective...

[@ShadowReaper-pu2hx]

Like me!

[@thalmoragent9344]

Daniel S .... oh dear...

[@Agent_Pear]

We dont soeak of mediclorians

[@worldonfire6154]

To defend Qui-Gon: He did try to free Shmi. Not very intensely, but he did. When initially proposing the bet, he bet the ship against BOTH Skywalkers, but was told by Watto that the ship only equaled one slave.

[@astrobot4017]

Because the Republic wasn't a theocracy and there were only about 10000 Jedi in a galaxy with quadrillions of sentient lifeforms.

[@weldonwin]

*(Coughs)* Constipex Crusades...

[@Destry31162]

@Astro Bot They you realize the need for Gods rule rather then men?

[@astrobot4017]

@@Destry31162 I meant that even if the Jedi ruled the galaxy, a big part of the remaining people would have had to believe in the Jedi-Religion/Philosophy in order for it to work, because even if there had been 10 millions of Jedi, it would be like having 10 people on Earth to fight global slavery - who also have a lot of other things to do.

[@moguldamongrel3054]

The Jedi could have had an ashram like system for training of the general masses. Instilling virtues, spirituality, warrior training, pacifism training, scientific studies etc. Granted such a thing disturbs the concept of free will but the easiest way to strip suffering on a massive scale would be to alter the structure in the first place. People would still work not because its work but more so because people like cook outs. People like tinkering. People like drawing. People like building. People like helping others, usually. Granted its slower then inserting evil as a catalyst, but it allowed finer tuning. Modified up it can easily scale into other types of beings. A place for all. With side shows running to cater to various niches and so that others can still excersize free will. I remember someone once saying they wanted to turn this plane into a resort like place. Personally I prefer it as a nature preserve, and for symbiotic harmonic living which is what it should have been in the fucking first place. The concept was simple enough that even a monkey could understand. Warrior gardeners.

[@Destry31162]

@Mogul DaMongrel What you describe would certainly be an improvement however have you ever wondered if most of us want peace and to care for others why does it seen there is a driving force pushing humankind to horrible acts.

[@Veed.l0]

I always love the 80s workout music in the background of your vids.

[@sethfinberg348]

Star Lord ... yet not as much as you love 70s music.

[@bobmartin9918]

@Agt.BADASS because it was made during the 80s....

[@violentscorl697]

Star Lord Star lord is a protector of concord dawn?

[@azarzu]

@@bobmartin9918 Or it sounds 80s, same thing

[@TylerBeRippin]

Kidnaps children, doesn't stop slavery. Calls themselves the light side XD

[@jonathancole3149]

The other side is the same, but uses abuse to train them, fair to call them the dark side.

[@dancingdroid]

@@jonathancole3149 But the other does not claim the moral high ground or even try to hide their dubious practices.

[@qiralyncassette]

@Haku infinite You realize they take babies, right? They usually don't take ones the age of Anakin as they are too old. There was this one thing where Jedi took a baby and thought it was abandoned but it wasnt and the mother wanted her baby back but the Jefi refused.

[@wesleyprice2523]

Kidnaps children to do their bidding and to grow up without being attached and live a probably depressing life, sends those kids into battle at the age of 11, wants to destroy another cult who uses the space magic they do with different beliefs, used an army of cloned beings with accelerated growth that has half the lifespan of themselves, doesnt abolish slavery, gets involved in politics they shouldnt ever associate with, calls themselves the light side of the force.

[@wesleyprice2523]

@Haku infinite they are recruited as infants and taken away for the SOLE PURPOSE OF THEM NOT HAVING ANY PERSONAL ATTACHMENTS. Anakin was a one time thing and they only allowed him in because his midichlorian count was higher than yodas.The parents only agree because the jedi basically ruled.

[@TorKelRa]

The Outer Rim is outside of their jurisdiction, Tatooine is under control of the Hutts, and the Jedi have to observe the laws and traditions of other cultures. To interfere is to cause a diplomatic incident that would cause trouble for the Jedi Order and the Republic.

[@jonathancole3149]

A paradox is complicated.

[@Mourtzouphlos240]

"It's too much work." That is fundamentally the answer: "it is too much work." The Jedi would have to rally an army, which they didn't believe in doing even during the New Sith Wars, using that army to crush an entire economic system, which as anyone obsessed with metaphysics will tell you is not in their wheelhouse, and then occupy and rebuild those worlds into fully functional democratic governments/states, which is just for starters expensive for a government who apparently had never heard of "raising taxes", "central banking" or "fiat currency". Easier to ignore it and be morally superior AKA: the position of 90% of abolitionists not in the Union Army or with John Brown. Or everyone who still votes for Democrats.

[@xNightHawk32]

The simple answer is that Jedi are keepers of the peace. And if they rocked the boat to slavery they would disturb that peace haha that’s my take on it.

[@MrMarinus18]

The jedi are bound to the republic. They can eradicate slavery within the republic but outside the republic is another matter.

[@guymundane3807]

So essentially it’s the same reason slavery existed in the south despite being illegal in the north

[@xNightHawk32]

@@guymundane3807 unfortunately they’ve had slavery in the north, south, east and west in all parts of the world. - And the sad truth is we’ve all probably benefited in some way because of it wether seen or unseen. 🤨 I’d rather think of a Galaxy far far away. 😊 it’s more fun!

[@guymundane3807]

@@xNightHawk32 fair enough

[@LucasJAmmons]

"No pod is worth two slaves...not by a long shot" -Watto. Qui-gon does try to free Shmi.

[@amyroth6836]

Not all that hard, though. He pretty much shrugs and drops the issue as soon as Watto shows the slightest bit of resistance. As much as Watto loved to haggle, you can't tell me the Jedi (or some other representative of the Republic) weren't capable of returning to Tatooine immediately after the liberation of Naboo and offering him whatever price he wanted for her. CLIEGG LARS eventually bought her. The man literally farmed MOISTURE for a living, and Watto sold her to this family. With the wealth that the upper levels of Coruscant swam in? Nope. Neither Qui-Gon nor the Jedi nor the Republic get a pass. The Jedi simply couldn't be bothered with Shmi. More to the point, it was in their best interest that Anakin be separated from his mother as wholly as possible. Because attachments. And fear.

[@TheGoodShipBlue]

Amy Roth FACTS

[@delicheese6774]

@@amyroth6836 >slightest bit Dunno, Watto seemed pretty damn implacable to me.

[@amyroth6836]

@@delicheese6774 Well sure, at the time, and under the circumstances. But again - Qui-Gon had just wandered into his shop covered in dust and tried to Force-convince his way into new parts he badly needed for his crippled ship. The whole reason they were having that exchange about the worth of a pod versus two slaves was because Qui-Gon had no local currency and very little else of material value that would tweak Watto's interest. Watto KNEW, going in, that Qui-Gon's means were VERY limited. Watto had all the power in that moment. Why should he let himself be placated? What if they weren't limited, though? Imagine how different it might be if someone from the Order or from the Republic had gone back to Tatooine a couple of days later and offered to pay Watto four, five, six times whatever price he named for Shmi? No expense spared. Do you think he'd be implacable then? I sure don't. I think such an ambassador wouldn't even have to try HALF that hard. Watto thinks with his ledgers first and last (or however Toydarians keep track of their money). Offer him even twice Shmi's worth, and I think Watto would be DROOLING all over himself with unrestrained glee. He'd probably make her a farewell snack to take on the journey to Coruscant. With their credits, their means? The Republic could have done that, easily. The Order could have ASKED them to do that on their behalf. Padme herself could have asked, for the sake of a hurting little boy who had just ended the blockade on Naboo. (Heck, forget Anakin - how about for the sake of basic decency.) It would've been no skin off their backs at all. The Jedi, the Republic - they didn't have to start an interplanetary incident and end slavery itself on Tatooine if they didn't want to get that involved. Just do whatever they had to do to pacify one Toydarian's greed and get Shmi the heck out of there. (And again, how hard do you think that really was if CLIEGG could scrounge up enough to buy her??) We'll never know. Because not one of them bothered to even try - the new Padme novel notwithstanding.

[@jonash3406]

Quigon already knew he can't change wattos mind through the force, aside from the ship (which they need to get off the planet and continue their mission) he dosent have any real assets that are of interest to Watto(he dosent accept credits) so what should Quigon do?

[@raymondcoventry1221]

The thing to keep in mind about the Jedi drafting children is that those children have magic psionic powers. If such powers started manifesting in our universe's young, you can be sure our governments would not hesitate to give themselves the right to do the same.

[@biggiec8224]

It makes no sense for slaves to even exist in the star wars galaxy, considering how advanced it is in the field of robotics and automation.

[@PalletEater214]

Master chief Well I would assume that buying a slave would be less than buying parts for a droid and then having someone to repair said droid.

[@biggiec8224]

@@PalletEater214 that makes no sense. A sentient being has to be fed, has to sleep, and is not nearly as productive as a machine.

[@PalletEater214]

Master chief Well if your a sentient being and you have to consume food and sleep you can probably just give them the bear minimum of food. As for sleep maybe they have a rotation cycle so that people can work during the night and day.

[@biggiec8224]

@@PalletEater214 but here's the thing. Machines don't need any of that. They don't sleep, they don't eat, they don't get tired and they don't complain. Automation in our world is already taking over more and more of our jobs, so image how it would be in the star wars galaxy.

[@fernandoayala9900]

In the book Master and Apprentice, They kinda go into that, if you’re a Czerka slave you’re future family pretty much belongs to the company, and they’ve been around for a long time some say longer than the Republic. Also someone asked a protocol droid why did they keep humans if droids were cheaper to maintain and house and it just replied because they can.

[@ArchieKeen1]

I have always wanted to know if the republic or the empire had a universal healthcare system or did the citizens have to pay for insurance?

[@mhoward220]

Maybe it was different from planet to planet.

[@xxvaltielxx1789]

Most planets (Republic backed colonies excluded) ruled themselves most of the time and as such, had their own laws, so long as they followed Republic sentient law then no problems aroused.

[@MandalorV7]

With tech like mechanical droids I would assume on most civilized health care would be cheap. Though there are some rare medical compounds such as bacta that might raise medical costs.

[@mr_unsubscribe]

I doubt that they would have universal healthcare due to the huge cost that would be, on top of everything else they have to pay for when ruling a galactic sized nation

[@Carl_Max4363]

This was revealed in the clone wars during an episode about increasing military spending, Padme Amadala won fighting against it by bringing up examples and explaining to the senate that the citizens were suffering, many struggling without medical care or clean water and electricity.

[@Paerigos]

No jurisdiction in Hutt space for example? No Jurisdiction in Wild Space... many world were simply not part of the Republic and Jedi did not have the mandate? With Ruusan reformations there werent permited to star a war?

[@jasonskeans3327]

They had no army so no war

[@puttputt524]

Jason Skeans yousa bantha poodoo.

[@Dawnlighter]

Correction: Qui Gon did tried to get both Anakin and his mother from Wuato but he refused to bet two slaves for the gain of a racing pod, thus the chance cube roll on which one of the two he will bet (which in turn Qui Gon Force moved the cube to get Anakin).

[@5captain619]

"How foolish is man that they would cage themselves so willingly." Athena- Appleseed

[@Aaron-fb6mb]

I now have a cropped image of Obi-Wan saying "hello there S L A V E R Y"

[@KahavaveCAPIPI]

In terms of outer-rim/hidden mid or core slavery; Most novelizations that give a figure put it around or a little over 10k knights circa the phantom menace. Presuming this disqualifies padawans and support members like the agri corp and that the masters aren't included and they have a weird hierarchy where there are exactly as many members on the top level as the level just below, that would mean about 20k full Jedi. 20k doesn't make a modern day army, let alone something sufficient to police a billion inhabited systems (or even the 70 million that warranted some sort of representation under the Empire). You can't even put one jedi per sapient species, cause the low estimate of sapient species puts it at around 5 million. When Jedi did get involved, it was typically either seeing something right in front of them or focusing on the big picture. Like stopping a war. There's too much to actually stamp anything out like that. The best option they have is to support stability in regions where slavery is an issue in an attempt to bring the local governments to a level where they can effectively fight against it. I'd also like to mention one thing about clones; conscription. Most governments and societies don't see conscription as slavery. Even those who have a problem with it tend to more have issues either with the military in general or with where troops are being sent in the first place. Its fairly rare to find a society which simultaneously supports the military but also doesn't think its okay to give people the option to either serve or be thrown in jail as an absolute (it varies between "mandatory short term service" and "the option should be available"). I would argue that raising battle thralls could be considered less morally damning than conscription, since with the conscripts you're taking people away from families and their own lives whereas those raised to be soldiers spend their entire lives with their family. Still slavery whether you raise them or pull them off the streets.

[@5h0rgunn45]

I agree with your point about military conscription being a form of slavery. Not many people ever bring this up. Some people argue that conscription is unfair because in most countries it only targets men, and want to expand it to include women just so it's fair. I say it should go the other direction. Forcing humans at gunpoint (if they desert, they die, or at best serve a long prison sentence) to kill other humans should be considered at least as morally reprehensible as forcing them to work under harsh conditions on large agricultural estates.

[@brandonmaboroshi9561]

You pronounced the intro so clearly I understood what you said no trouble. Best Spanish I've ever heard since 2004

[@MrMarinus18]

Many seem to complain about this but I never was confused by it. I mean they are 2 jedi and a handful of soldiers that are pretty much totally cut off from outside help. What can they do? One thing that did bother me even as a child was the thought: Why not just use the credits and find someone who can be mind tricked and buy a lot of stuff. Then use that stuff to pay Watto?

[@blackblack1167]

I woke up, saw this video, tilted my head a bit, and actually wondered why this isnt self-explanatory 😂😂🤣🤣

[@returnofthejediorder1762]

We’re peace keepers we can’t do everything you know.

[@pyeitme508]

Well we Yankees are war bringers and fxxx u sxxxy peace keepers!☮️

[@_riseoftheskywalker_5172]

Guy us a break

[@pyeitme508]

@@_riseoftheskywalker_5172 Heck no we Yankees prefer American Freedom to do what we ever we want! Include making wars!

[@kronos661]

@@pyeitme508 You would free everybody who have Oil.

[@frenchsoldier8485]

@@pyeitme508 *Soviet March is heard in distance*

[@elderliddle2733]

For any wondering about Hutt Space, essentially it was a large territory on the outer rim controlled by the Hutt Clan. The Hutt Clan was ruled over by Jabba the Hutt before the Clone Wars all the way to about 3 ABY. They made laws and regulations for the masses in their territory. Yes they engaged in crime within Republic and Imperial Space. However, so did the republic and Empire commit crimes in Hutt Space. They developed a live and let live relationship. However, after Leia killed Jabba, the Hutts went to war with each other vying to be the next ruler.

[@72Worker]

You know we do not really know when the age of accountability is for characters in Star Wars. In ancient Rome you were considered an adult at 13 years. So maybe Ahsoka was legal to be on the battlefield by Republic law.

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

Padmé was queen at 14. I hear a lot about Ahsoka being 14 on the battlefield but not much about Padmé. I get it, her life wasn't nearly as viscerally in danger, but being queen still came with plenty of job hazards - hence her handmaidens.

[@72Worker]

@@ThinWhiteAxe Of course ancient Roman law also allowed a man to murder his children at any age as long as he could lift a sword, if he desired too. A father in Ancient Rome could kill his adult children as easily as if they were still children, if he could lift a sword.

[@lunny3715]

And not even to mention, sentient cultures are different every and anywhere, so there's only so much law enforcement that could be done on many different omnipresent cultures. This is a fictional universe, remember, so there's no need to worry about the ethics behind it. And not to mention, she was trained proficiently throughout the course of her life throughout, so she would've really been fine with the evasive manuevers she already had and was given.

[@casbot71]

#5 Meant that the Jedi order was compromised on the other forms of slavery. In effect they were like *Professor Xavier's school for gifted students* as a military school with the authority of a juvenile delinquent centre, run as a to order child kidnapping ring. Such a group may raise moral questions in its former child soldiers as to its recruitment methods if it went full anti slavery. As for #1 - #3, once the Clone Wars and the Galactic civil war started there was the _realpolitik needs_ of having to fight, survive, and hopefully win. Fighting slavery (unless it's freeing your enemies slaves) is a distraction that could cost you the war. But before _"the troubles"_ that Palps and Plagueis organised, in the previous centuries of apparent stability, the Jedi could have been a very effective anti-slavery organisation. They would have removed a lot of corruption as well in the process of relieving suffering, and it may well have been the corrupt Senate that stopped them, but how? The Jedi had the independent authority to do what it pleased, and trying to limit them would just bring you to their attention, making you secret slave holding operation their next target (the Jedi were Ronan Farrow with Seal Team Six for backup). If they had set their sights on it, they may have well stemmed the corruption and dysfunction of the government. While making themselves the heroes of the common people, including the slave stable boys inspired to dance with brooms. They could take out slave holders easily (and they did occasionally) and in fact they were far better suited for that than general combat in an open war. And were more effective at anti-slavery missions than a military force would be. They were excellent Investigators and effectively spies and detectives. They could sniff out a criminal organisation and were the undisputed best at small scale combat, even when unarmed. A simple trick would be for a Jedi of the appropriate species to arrange to be taken for slavery and then use their powers to escape and take out the ringleaders. That is sort of what Luke did in ROTJ, except he walked in as a Jedi. Imagine if he was sold into Jabbas palace as a anonymous slave (although really, he should have got a job as a guard, like Lando did). A Jedi in such a scenario could dismantle the group (and the guards!) with his powers. Mind control a coup attempt, Force push a boss off a ledge or other 'assassination' method, and generally soften them up for a covert raid by a main force of Jedi. Or just use telekinesis to unlock the back door … … And get the slaves ready to escape when the time is right. In this case Twi'lek Jedi would be valuable and respected by the order, Wookie Jedi having no issue with being looked down upon. In a few decades the Jedi order could eliminate slavery and the criminal groups that flourish through it. The Hurts could be an issue, but carefully picking them off one by one, starting with the worse offenders, would inspire many Hutts to give up slavery. And if the Jedi have already eliminate their cohorts in other groups, it weakens their powerbase and reduces suppliers to the Hutts as well. The large number of Jedi at the time meant that profiling potential agents is difficult (they don't have facial recognition tech in Star Wars?), and once you come to their attention unless you're a Sith Empire you're basically screwed, they will get you.

[@hudson_powell]

casbott it’s said in the Imperial Commander’s Handbook that the Hutt crime syndicates and slavers were important players in the Outer Rim economy.

[@DavidbarZeus1]

@@hudson_powell So replace the Hutts with legitimate Republic businesses

[@hudson_powell]

@@DavidbarZeus1 And how exactly are you planning on doing that when the Hutts maintain a standing army and navy? The Republic didn't maintain a navy or army before the clone wars. During the clone wars, they were too busy fighting the seppies. The Empire just didn't care.

[@DavidbarZeus1]

@@hudson_powell The Jedi could have done so during the millennium of the High Republic. Marshal most of their forces and put an end to the Hutt Clans and their criminal empires then help the Republic instill law and order. If the Jedi can wipe out the Sith, why not a group that is almost as bad?

[@neilrobinson4494]

​@@DavidbarZeus1 Probably because the Sith were at war with the Republic and intent on exterminating the Jedi. Whereas the Hutts just did their own thing in their own space...which, you know was NOT in the Republic.

[@mesa176750]

Czerka is pronounced with a silent "c"

[@Kyzrath]

Yes, exactly that. "Zehr-kah".

[@Zakk_Zero]

Wow! Great topic and very thought provoking. This is by far the most unique angle/topic for a Star Wars video I have seen. Kudos on this creation! Thank you for making!

[@zephyrstrife4668]

Point number 1: yes, we would consider the taking of children to become Jedi "Knights" to be immoral and unlawful... But the Jedi themselves got around this by being a much more diverse organization than is shown in the films and series. We are shown the branch that has trained in martial arts, those trained to use a last-resort weapon to its maximum effect when no other recourse is available. However, being inducted into the Jedi Order as a baby or young child was technically a voluntary option. The Jedi would ask the parents to not have their child train with the force if they declined to give them the child... But nothing was actually stopping them from finding other force-sensitive tutors or organizations for their child to learn from. In some cases it would lead to a better life for the child in the order... But not always. That's not even including the ranks of Seekers, Sentinels, Consulars and Mystics. Many sought out new locations in the galaxy that were previously unmapped so that new worlds could be brought into the republic fold. Consulars would. Be trained in scholarly and diplomatic pursuits as their primary means of conflict resolution, thus providing an advanced education for those within the temple ranging from purely scholarly to practical field-study. There were also artisans, artists, motivational speakers, the ranks of the Jedi were just as varied as any other organization, especially since they welcomed all who wanted to embrace the life of a monk. Since we see such a narrow field of what the Jedi were trained for though, it looks worse than it was overall.

[@lunny3715]

Because it got to a point in the galaxy where shifting-changes in the general standards had meant fewer and fewer Jedi, so as unethical as it sounds, they kind of did really have to do whatever nesscary to keep it stable and not let it downfall. But Yoda and the other high ranking members had always had the intention of keeping the light side of the force spread throughout the galaxy at a high rate, they would be using this at most to spread that idea on to others.

[@deanottinger1616]

I enjoy your content and currently viewing the Clone Wars history/lore because I love listening to stories, fantasies, and history while I work. However, I am here for the thumbnail because it is hilarious. Keep up the good work and the open-mindedness.

[@fishsticks24122]

Thats why we're unstoppable 😂😂 love that quote

[@vexingrabbit1824]

I thought the west was unstoppable because their military might. After all talks between nations wouldn't matter much if said guy speaking doesn't have a big stick to back up his statements.

[@robertagu5533]

@@vexingrabbit1824 that too. But when you look at whom we're also fighting more often then not. The people the US an allied forces go out to fight often got it comin

[@RedLeader327]

Unstoppable, unless you’re fighting Vietnamese rice farmers.

[@robertagu5533]

@@RedLeader327 right.. an totally throw out and disregard the fact that it was a bunch of dumbass politicians and arm chair experts back home letting media distract an run amuk and all them make stupid decisions on how to fight a war of that kind instead of letting alot of those that were vets of previous wars do what they do best.. an never mind that even to this date they the ONLY ones in the world that managed to hold their own.. these days can almost guarantee they couldn't do that again though.

[@TERMINATOR101-b8j]

@@robertagu5533 Dude, the word you're looking for is 'and' not 'an'

[@clovis2012]

The thumbnail just slayed me 😂🤣

[@tylerjyhacketjj5560]

Yep

[@vdubborero1999]

First singing and now spanish ,"classic" love it..that was an alternative vew point...

[@chrisbutler9594]

Qui-Gon tried to free Shimi, he just couldn't do it without cutting Watto down, and revealing himself.

[@Brick_One_A_Lego_Story]

The story of Syfo Dijas is explained in the clone wars. Spoiler Count Dooku disguised himself as Syfo Dijas and ordered the clone army.

[@nutterbotter8308]

Brick One A Lego story he was a Jedi at one point

[@BJETNT]

Very informative and educational video not just about Starwars! As always good job Allan. I can't remember a video I didn't like yet.

[@nobody4248]

What if Ankin failled to find Ventress during the Wrong Jedi arc?

[@Brick_One_A_Lego_Story]

Poor Snips would be :(

[@Allentox]

Africa, who has enslaved since the dawn of their civilization, is thought to have over 600,000 people enslaved in their country today! No outrage though, no violent protesting. Seems people only concerned about the past and only concerned if whites are involved. Over a million white s were enslaved in Africa and the Middle East BEFORE and during the time of the Atlantic Slave trade, it's partially because of the kidnapping of whites in the U.S. that caused tens of thousands of other whites give their lives to stop slavery all over the world! Funny, you never hear much about their sacrifice. Since less than 5,% of Americans alive today even had distant relatives that owned slaves, it's hundreds of thousands if times more likely that any random white person had relatives or ancestors that helped free slaves, not own them. Little food for thought.

[@luigimrlgaming9484]

Wait this is a political video?

[@hudson_powell]

In the Imperial Commander’s Handbook, it is stated that the Hutts, various crime syndicates, and slavers were all highly important players in the Galactic Economy. The Jedi/Republic may have wished to stop such things, but weren’t willing to face the economic consequences of that decision. Also, the Jedi are considered a religious order, and may have authority to take children. The clones are technically soldiers, and any soldier would be punished for deserting.

[@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527]

The Jedi Order tended to only take children if the parents/guardians consented or they had no families to care for them

[@The_One_With_The_Bowtie]

You just hit me where it hurts. I just graduated with a degree in film production

[@silentstorm509th9]

They did technically stop slavery under the Republic however the CIS let it thrive. With exceptions to the Clone military and need of Jedi leaders.

[@DrankenDune]

SilentStorm5O5 slavery was still very prevalent in the 1000 years before the CIS was a thing

[@silentstorm509th9]

@@DrankenDune Yes, but it was technically made illegal thanks to the Jedi and Republic. Sadly, growing corruption in the Republic allowed certain higher factions to use them.

[@Dori-Ma]

@@silentstorm509th9 Such as the Jedi themselves. ;-)

[@silentstorm509th9]

@@Dori-Ma Yes the jedi never seem to have consistent beliefs.

[@seansundeck3912]

I can't argue with your analysis here. Very well done. I would even go further to say that the Jedi had grown to complacent to where they were cold to things happening around them and essentially fought in the Clone Wars to make sure things would either stay the same or at least go back to where they could be complacent/lazy again. I do have admit where fans call him a Grey Jedi but George Lucas said he was the ideal Jedi, Qui Gon's difference to the actual Jedi order is something that may add to the conclusion of your analysis.

[@jessikapiche6097]

Well, i do love 'other view points' but i don't like someone lying. The fact is, Qui-Gon offered the CHOISE, A PATH, to be a Jedi to the young Anakin, he didn't force Anakin in any way. If Anakin had chosen, he could have stayed with his Mom as a FREE KID. He didn't have to work for Watto anymore as Qui-Gon had buy his contract back! So, although Qui-Gon didn't come there to free slaves, he did free Anakin. And Anakin's choice was his own...

[@Kewlosh]

0:36; “In this crazy, crazy world... full of space dolphins.”

[@casbot71]

*#4 Clone Army.* It could be argued that the original of the genetic template - Jango Fett, gave his _consent to service_ on behalf of his duplicates. Although that could also mean that the elder of identical twins could sell their sibling into slavery, if the law just assumed that they were the original (it's an embryo splitting, but when has science ever been relevant in public policy?).

[@JCatl3y]

I imagine the Republic viewed the Jedi Order as a boarding school for force sensitive children.

[@barisops1884]

Gen tech: calls slavery controversial Me: to be controversial one must have two opposing sides in an argument

[@DavidbarZeus1]

To provide the opposing side, may I present the Hutts and Zygerrians

[@darthtroller]

When you're making one of your daily videos but also gotta make sure Duolingo won't assassinate you

[@highcouncil1302]

Except they did as stated in the Clone Wars the Jedi put a stop to the zygerrian slaver Empire slavery only came back because the CIS.

[@Paerigos]

Well it really helps that Zygerrians were far more stupid then Hutts and actually kidnapped people from Republic space and colonies, and that gave Jedi and Republic Casus Beli to do so. Hutts on the other hand did not partake in slave raids and simply settled for people who have fallen into depth - thus - indentured servitude and such. well then you get why those up to 1000 years old slugs were one of the smartest beings in the galaxy.

[@Banchoking]

An akin was a slave before the CIS was a thing.

[@Brick_One_A_Lego_Story]

@@Banchoking It was explained in the Phantom Menace that Tatooine didn't belong to the Republic.

[@lukesheep4114]

@@Brick_One_A_Lego_Story They did belong to the Republic, however the effect of the Republic was next to nothing.

[@f.c.laukhard3623]

@@lukesheep4114 The Outer Rim was the No go area of the Republic.

[@UK8864]

Why did Queen Amidala's ship have so many astromech droids? Don't ships only need one maybe a second as back up? Her's had 4 or 5 including R2. I know from a plot point they needed a couple to get blasted before R2 could save them but was there a technical reason why so many for a small ship?

[@josephcline3652]

The Jedi: "Slavery is bad!" Also the Jedi: **runs a slave army**

[@Theleaver5088]

Tell me about it

[@EvilSnips]

This video made me laugh but your channel banner is a beauty to behold.

[@emperormajorian112]

I’m getting the wrong message from that picture

[@tylerjyhacketjj5560]

Me to

[@aadibhavprasad7449]

A better system for the clone army might be that those who do not wish to fight could leave whenever they want. That way they aren't being forced to fight but are choosing to fight. It wouldn't be too expensive as most clones actually do want to fight and very few would actually leave.

[@GamerFromJump]

I don’t expect that a cadre of genetic supermen who train to remove emotion and attachment give half a damn about sentient suffering. Although they should, since the Jedi are cadged wholesale from Buddhism, which has as a tenet to relieve suffering.

[@philidox]

That was an amazing you definitely presented a lot of thought provoking issues I never looked at before

[@arveduilastking546]

Is that a christmas tre in the background?

[@UWOTM8ification]

is the arms corporation metniton at the 8:19 timestamp related to the Czerka corporation prominently featured in the KOTOR games?

[@duncanmcgee13]

Because no one willingly lives on Tattooine unless theyre a slave, slaver, or criminal.

[@VideoHitz2023]

Did moisture farmers like Luke's aunt & uncle also fall into that category?

[@duncanmcgee13]

@@VideoHitz2023 Lukes uncle is the son of the man that bought Shmee. So yes.

[@docartemis2878]

Steve Beairsto I mean Uncle Owen did buy Anakin’s mom, so... slavers I guess? Or am I misremembering?

[@duncanmcgee13]

@@docartemis2878 all i know is someone in the family line bought someone else and that Uncle Owen is not actually related to Luke.

[@VideoHitz2023]

If you people will remember....he bought Shmi from Watto because he fell in love with her, and then freed her. After that, they got married.

[@kramerguitars204]

Alan, half way through the month of May: “here’s another video featuring a cameo from a Christmas tree”

[@nomadscheap-n-nerdy9901]

Jeff Kramer I wonder how many are current or how many had been filmed months ago when the Christmas tree had a proper placement.

[@silentstorm509th9]

If you don't want to take a student loan like you said there are programs like ROTC where the military will pay for your education in exchange for service as either an active or reserve.

[@CheapSkateGamer96]

Or... You could not sell your soul to the US government at all and save a ton of money by going to trade school. But yeah, if you're going to college and not paying your own way, the government is going to own your ass whether you take out a loan or join the military.

[@silentstorm509th9]

@@CheapSkateGamer96 I am merely stating a way to avoid debt and still go to college if you are willing to serve your country and can handle the lifestyle. Not everyone should go to college or join the military however it is an option. Secondly, whether you are left or right don't take for granted the freedoms you have as an American and respect the military that serves to protect them.

[@CheapSkateGamer96]

@@silentstorm509th9 I respect the soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines, not the institutions. The American military not only sacrifices the lives of our family, friends and neighbors in pointless conflicts, but also spends billions of our tax dollars dropping bombs on sand dunes. Money that could be spent improving the safety of our roads, educating future generations, caring for America's disabled; or better yet, still in the pockets of the American consumer.

[@silentstorm509th9]

@@CheapSkateGamer96 While some conflicts such as the so called war on terror may seem pointless the US has been able strike at the root of hostile organizations preventing larger attacks on western civilization. As a whole the federal government spends the most on Medicare, Social Security and "other spending" which includes education, transportation, agriculture etc. The federal government spends the least in federal debt and national defense surprisingly. Not to mention the Military in my experience uses it's budget much better than other areas of government mainly because everything they do has a lot of oversight. However, it should mainly the states who will receive the money regarding "other spending" so if things like education aren't being improved it's because a state isn't taking the steps to either ensure the money is used wisely or they don't care about improving these systems. As someone who had to grow up in different states and thus different schools there are states like Illinois and California who focus too much on unnecessary policies or programs in schools while other states like Texas focus on better overall schooling.

[@silentstorm509th9]

@@CheapSkateGamer96 Also you appear to disagree with how congress uses the military not the institution like you said. I say this because it is congress who must approve what the military spends on and chooses which wars to fight not the military or even the president technically.

[@ThatShyGuyMatt]

I remember a friend (wasn't a SW geek really) asked why Chewbacca was Hans slave. I was like "Um, its a life debt. Not even close to slavery!"

[@alejandrop771]

Bro you sound like Jack Sparrow. Saludos de Puerto Rico.

[@alexman378]

How drunk were you when you wrote that? 😂

[@x-snipo2137]

jesus, I love allen's thick american accent while speaking spanish XD

[@liaml.e.5964]

I'm growing tired of that Christmas Tree

[@scottbraun9122]

YOUR SHOW GAVE A VERY VALID ARGUMENT FOR WHY THIS A HARD ISSUE TO STAN AGAINST. THINGS ALWAYS JUST KEEP GETTING COMPLICATED. AS COMPLICATED AS, DEFINING, CANNIBALISM. IT'S NOT ACTUALLY AS SIMPLE AS TOO MANY SAY IT IS. SOMETHING THAT COULD MAKE FOR A RATHER LONG -OTHER, SHOW. LIKED THIS AS MUCH AS ALWAYS. KEEP IT UP KIDS. GOOD WORK. THANKS.

[@Fruitgum-xc7co]

Me to Qui-Gon: *Use your godamn lightsaber, you have it for a reason!*

[@neilrobinson4494]

So... just murder a guy who has committed no legal crimes, nor do you have the legal jurisdiction to to so as Tattoinne is not in the Republic. Great plan.

[@lonenelson5674]

Correction. Qui-Gon jinn did try to free both Anakin and his mom. But (I forget the bugs name) wouldn't take it. It wasn't worth two slaves.

[@thorshammer7883]

The CIS (Star Wars EU/Legends) vs the Imperium Of Man (Warhammer 40k).

[@akumaking1]

Warhammer always heard everything because of the grimdark setting.

[@thorshammer7883]

@@akumaking1 Well the CIS can produce droids in minutes and in a war of nutrition and numbers the CIS would do better having trillions of droids ready for battle and their fleet measure in the millions, in strength and fire power the Imperium would be better with their warships being extremely powerful and durable able to take on mutiple CIS ships at the same time and their soldiers being able to stand their ground, and Space Marines and Imperium vehicles ripping apart droids and tanks. From my point of view they would be even each side having something better than the other.

[@docartemis2878]

Thor's Hammer They might start equal, but seeing an actual threat, the sleeping giant that is the Imperium will roll over and stir a bit, increase it’s efficiency by a small margin, and begin steam rolling the CIS. It would kind of be like what happened with the Indomitus crusade.

[@thorshammer7883]

@@docartemis2878 Well that depends we know the Imperium isn't really good when it comes to military tactics just throwing your soldiers at the enemy. The CIS however will keep producing droids. To me it will be pretty even in Space and the ground. Even when the Imperium decides to use exterminatus.

[@docartemis2878]

Thor's Hammer The Imperial Guard has a wide range of commanders. There are some that use human wave tactics, but others that are tactical geniuses. Some of those human wave tactics would even be effective though. The death korp of krieg, who are basically droids made of flesh. The Salvlar Chem Dogs, who have literally nothing to lose. Then you have units like the Catachan Jungle Fighters and Armageddon Steel Legion, who regularly make the Orkz decide they don’t want to fight in a region anymore. As for the production capacity? The Imperium can match and even exceed that of the CIS pretty easily, we have a galaxy of factories constantly churning out equipment for our armies. And I’d like to see the CIS try and use a production line after the Minotaurs or Black Templars chapters of astartes get done with it. Even super battle droids don’t begin to threaten the astartes. Not to mention that the Imperium takes on the necrons and wins with fair regulality. And the Necrons don’t even need to be taken back for repairs, they just get up by themselves in the field and go back to fighting. Not to mention their standard infantry weapons tear things apart on a molecular level. The CIS is packing nothing in comparison to that. Basically, it’s never a fair comparison to put something against 40k, because everything in 40k is ludicrous in scale.

[@kylearthurs786]

What's the song at 5:50

[@MultiMachinegunner]

Generación is pronounced with a H for the G, so "heneracion"

[@tiffanypersaud3518]

1:50 to 2:16. Pity I cannot sub twice. Very well-written vid.

[@Warhammered]

Just mildly triggered by the way he pronounces Czerka. (It's not C'Zerka. It's Zerka, the C is silent.) But anyways, really good points. It's always good to know that you shouldn't equate modern, real life laws, thoughts and systems to fictional universes. So the US does not equal Star Wars....or anything else for that matter. :P

[@jordanasiegel2099]

Have you done a video on Czerka arms and corporate planets? I'm curious how they work and how messed they are.

[@GregoryMatous]

Ever hear the story of the "White Slavers"? They trapped Luke Skywalker on an island and made him milk a space walrus.

[@VincentGonzalezVeg]

Coo Coo katchu

[@buzzdroid8325]

Nice lol

[@srstriker6420]

Gregory Matous no, when did that happen

[@FreakyTeeth]

The real reason for the clone slave army was because by Obi-Wan's own admission, the jedi needed them. I get where you're coming from on the child slavery thing, but the main reason as to why the jedi did that was because, to put it quiet simply, the jedi were convinced that if they recruited adults, said adults would abuse their teachings far too frequently. It's disgustingly pessimistic and exploitative, even cowardly to a certain extent, but it's how they thought things would work. As if to spit in their faces that they were wrong, Alexi Grayn the head of black sun at one time, was a force-sensitive rejected from the jedi order for being too old, and when Luke, the best jedi ever by George Lucas' own admission, began his training with Ben he was 19 and in his early twenties when he started with Yoda, and all the jedi who became sith, besides Anakin, were taken in by the order when infants. As for why they allowed the outer rim slavery, I can sum it up with one word: Cowardice. If the jedi really wanted to, they could telekinetically grab slavers and force them to free their slaves and then kill them from halfway across the galaxy away, or they could build a stealth armada and stealth droid army to liberate them. Mind you, that slavery even exists in a galaxy where droids and advanced machines are "a dime a dozen.", is due obviously to sheer stupidity. But that's the thing about star wars: The writers of star wars are fully aware that the bad things that are chosen by individuals and groups, are chosen due to utter stupidity, and they want to teach children that.

[@storytime6263]

Then Luke fixes all this in the TRUE star wars also know as "Ledgens".

[@fishish9960]

Storytime626 lol

[@landfair123]

What if Anikens mother had been freeded and had gone to the Jedi temple with him? Yes she had no force powers but she would have been safe. How would that have effected his future?

[@animeturnMMD]

0:08 por un momento pensé que me había equivocado de canal. :V

[@LawlTwins]

Great vid, although isn't Czerka pronounced without the C? Not being nitpicky im genuinely curious.

[@mitchellhayward6492]

That's right. The C is silent

[@LawlTwins]

@@mitchellhayward6492 Thanks for letting me know. I'm surprised Alan didn't know that though.

[@casbot71]

*The thumbnail* … dude, you held her as a newborn baby (will hold her… in a short while Obi, best you find out what happend for yourself…), don't oggle her. Besides the fact that it's sexual slavery, she's practically your goddaughter, her twin brother is your godson. Or she might be your own daughter, we have our suspicions about you. Ok, Obi, now you realise how disturbing that is, can we talk about _accidental sibling incest_ and the measures to prevent it?………

[@casbot71]

*Star Wars Episode IV A New Hope:* Obi-Wan is telling Luke about his father _(from a certain point of view)_ *Obi-Wan:* Anakin Skywalker wasn't only your father, he had a daughter as well. *Luke:* I have a sister…who? *Obi-Wan:* The message in that R2 unit, that's her. She's your twin. It's good that you want to save her, it shows that the family bond is strong [pretends not to notice that Luke has a semi hard-on when looking at Leia's holorecording, he's relieved to see it shrink … "stop looking at young men's genitals" he chides himself. The Jedi orders rules really messed him up when he was younger, he thinks to himself]. Later on episode VII TFA. The children of Leia and Han, help lead the New Republic into a golden age and defeat the Nascent First Order before it has a chance to get established. Han Solos firstborn son is a powerful and good Jedi Knight, and he shares his father's handsome and dashing good looks, instead of looking like a *inbred* Goth with wonky features and a personality disorder…. He becomes Lukes right hand man (metaphorically - that is, Lukes right hand) and leads the vigorous New Jedi order to some of its greatest victories. And because Lukes new Jedi Order is not cloistered like the old Jedi, he is allowed to pursue attachments and one day meets a young scrapper on Jakku, who is instantly smitten with his charm and his _perfectly symmetrical facial features._

[@rdsasuke1]

You took this wayyyyyy too seriously.

[@secretbaguette]

Thanks for sneaking in my daily Spanish practice Alan. Duo would be proud.

[@OneCut1Slash]

The Sith under Sidious brought peace and security. Too bad Rey saved/took the Jedi books.

[@cormacmacsuibhne2867]

Yeah she's a bitch. BTW your name should be captain Marvel.

[@Ajc-ni3xn]

How do you say Czerka? Because I remember in the old KOTOR games they said zerka. But is that wrong?

[@Akelehimarenge]

Why didn't the jedi stop slavery? Jedi - Because we have the moral High Ground. 😂😂😂

[@metalmadsen]

Love this channel.

[@52flyingbicycles]

Allowing slavery as a punishment for crime? The Empire has the same loophole as the US!

[@jeremybertz796]

Hahahahah you voice cracked at 2:30 and Im haunting you a year later!

[@LeviathanTamer31]

So the answer is: "Most would love to, but Politics/War. Take that off and it's lightsaber chain cutting all around."

[@morromenos1016]

Ok, but that doesn't explain the CLONE ARMY THAT THE REPUBLIC PAID FOR. the clones didn't have rights, and never had the choice to join the GAR. The Jedi happily led them.

[@LeviathanTamer31]

*-but Politics/War.*

[@morromenos1016]

@@LeviathanTamer31 But the Jedi accepted a SLAVE ARMY, no questions asked. The Jedi don't care about slavery. Alternative and more ethical options include, but are not limited to: drafting/conscripting civilians (most countries do this), droids (separatists proved it's possible), allow the separatists to secede (peaceful), or hire an army of mercs (assuming the republic can afford it). None of these solutions involve slavery.

[@LeviathanTamer31]

No, they did care. It's why Obi-Wan contacted Yoda about all of it. They came to the conclusion of a few facts. 1) The Grand Army of the Republic was so far out of date it didn't even have any proper veterans with which to train new recruits that were drafted from civilians. They would've been throwing even more lives into the meat grinder than they did with the Clones. 2) Almost every single Mega Corporation capable of mass-producing droids for The Separatists sided with The Separatists, because ultimately The Separatists was an Oligarchy with Mega Corporations at its head. So they definitely couldn't do a Droid army. 3) With most of the Mega Corporations leaving, they were taking incredibly valuable resources with them, this would've weakened the Republic even more than the war, and worse yet if they just let them secede it would give a signal flag to other powers that they could secede without any fuss. Thus fragmenting the Republic until it ultimately collapses on itself. 4) The Republic could barely afford the Clone Army, as evidenced by a whole mini-arc being based around Padme trying to keep the Republic from bankrupting itself to try and match the Droid output that the Separatists were maintaining. A Mercenary Army would've been even MORE expensive than that and it wouldn't even be a guaranteed victory as no mercenary army that could be assembled on such short notice would ever hope to match the sheer numbers of the Droids. -------- This war tied up the Jedi in not only Political matters, but also military matters. The Republic simply wasn't capable of fighting the power of The Separatists without a miracle, and wouldn't you know, Palpatine delivered one to them. Star Wars: The Clone Wars touches upon this even further when it stopped being an episodic cartoon about Space Wars and started resembling an actual civil war. A bloody and horrendous affair that left innocents dead on both sides and morals being crossed in order to attempt to assure victory. This isn't even touching on the fact that even if the Jedi *didn't* want the Clone Army, they still wouldn't have done anything to free them beyond asking the Senate to look into the matters of the Kaminoans cloning slaves. Because by their own code and as representatives of The Republic, they couldn't interfere with Kaminoan society. ------- Note: This is why I shortened it to "-but Politics/War."

[@LeviathanTamer31]

@dylan alvarez I mean, the Republic had a few veterans, but they were mostly from random skirmishes like Admiral Yularen who fought against Admiral Trench. But no *real* war on the scale of the Clone Wars. Even then it wouldn't have been up to the Jedi to train them, it would've been the Republic's job. The only reason the Jedi were involved with the Clones was because of Palpatine's machinations to smear the Jedi for owning a Slave Army and fighting a war despite supposedly being Peacekeepers. So... congrats to all of you for falling for Emperor Palpatine's propaganda even with having more knowledge about the Clone Wars than the public would've.

[@SchneeflockeMonsoon]

Did the Star Trek Galaxy have some kind of Interdiction technology? Until Transwarp Drive was invented to attack someone while they were in warp (see Excelsior and Dreadnought Classes), there wasn’t really a way to stop someone from just warping past all your defenses and attacking your home world before running away at warp speed, right?

[@curseofgladstone4981]

You can attack someone at warp if you can catch up and then connect your warp bubbles. But that requires you to have a ship capable of going as fast as they are. But detection may be a problem. Star bases may have the tech to sense incoming warp signatures but I'm not sure if ships do beyond a few seconds to maybe a minute of warning.

[@Small_Hollow]

Luke was right: "the jedi need to end".

[@chongwillson972]

@TheQuietGuy like the sith is EVER going to die out...

[@GrahamMilkdrop]

Regarding Padawan soldiers being physically but not mentally mature enough for combat... It's a strange misconception, that age based 'maturity' enables people to cope with harsh realities, like war. A person shielded from experiencing violence when they are young will be ill equipped to cope with it later on in life, no matter how old they are when they finally face it... In fact, they are likely to struggle, as they'll suffer the psychological impact of having their worldview destroyed at the same time as the physiological effects of traumatic situations. People who cope best are those who have always known things to be that way.

[@nunyabizness4926]

"Suzerka" Czerka is pronounced "Zerka"

[@alancranford3398]

The slavery issue is how after 1000 generations of "peace" the Jedi Order caused imbalance in the force. Imagine Obi Wan asking Qui-Gon, "are we the baddies, then?" after being told of the prophecy of The One who would restore Balance to the Force.

[@magythemage]

as an Argentinian, Your butchering of spanish triggered me XD

[@TrevorAdams90]

*an Argentinian

[@joaosoares-rr5mj]

i honestly belive that qui-gon did plan on gooing back to anakin's mother, i think that after the naboo problem was solved, he would ask padmé a big chunk of money, and go back to tatooine, and buy her, and bring her to coruscant, where she would be safe and sound... but qui-gon died, and unfortunaly he didnt tell this plan to ayone...

[@SchultzDorinda]

Truth be told, if Obi-Wan was a good person he wouldn't have needed Qui-Gon to tell him to go and free his new Padawan and brother's mother from Slavery. He would have just done it. Especially since Anakin did voiced out his concerns about his mother. But Obi-Wan is not a truly good person. He's the kind of individual who would label someone he hasn't even met yet as "another pathetic lifeform". He left his brother to burn alive instead of giving him a mercy killing. He pushed Luke to commit Patricide. He did not fight for Ahsoka when she needed help the most. He faked his own death and used and abused the emotional state of the people closest to him simply to fulfill a mission. And truth be told he was very toxic for Anakin in general.

[@joaosoares-rr5mj]

@@SchultzDorinda pretty much yeah

[@jeffersonian000]

“From my point of view, the Jedi are the evil ones.” - the one true statement that defined the saga.

[@chrislanglois8275]

an anime called "rising of the shield hero" i recently watched that rly gets u thinking on all perspectives of types of slavery and the usually worst kind how it can b necessary and most of all good and helpful in slaves and the ppl around them more than but still important for the master's position and capability to help because of it. hopefully ull see things from the many perspectives i saw in this anime, if u, who so ever watches it.

[@Brigand231]

Could be worse, you could have gotten a major in gender studies.

[@puttputt524]

Brigand231 there probably are a million genders among all those aliens. It’s my reasoning for Star Wars NOT being female.

[@Brigand231]

@@puttputt524 Oh, it is. You just haven't seen it yet.

[@iancootz]

1. I think it's a valid point for the Jedi to want to watch force-sensitives closely. Better apart of the Jedi Order than free to possibly wreak destruction after their formative years. The Jedi Order doesn't value liberty to the highest like we do in reality. 2. Seen it said elsewhere as well that while the Jedis questioned the creation and usage of the Grand Army of the Republic, how else were they going to fight off trillions of separatist droids. 3. He does try to argue for Anakin's mom. Watu just wouldn't have it and Qui-Gon knew that Anakin was the more vital of the two to liberate. Also any story can be made to look like good was only done because it was beneficial to that person or group. 4. A job for the Galactic Senate that is. The Galactic Senate has power enough is they cared for it to pass laws to prevent indentured labor.