Why Was it Impossible to LEAVE the Star Wars Galaxy?

[@nebulon1017]

“Theoretically, if one knew the coordinates and navigation, yes I believe it could.” - Huyang, Ahsoka Ep 3, S1

[@bottasheimfe5750]

as I understand it, the Firefist Galaxy and the Rishi Maze Galaxy are connected to the hyperlane networks, but on the most outer of outer edges. these places are the outer rim to the Outer Rim. Truly a lawless Frontier.

[@cujoedaman]

Or a... final frontier :D

[@EnclaveSOC-102]

How much do you wanna bet that if someone were to travel outside the Star Wars galaxy, they would wind up in the 40K universe?

[@apolloknight9521]

There’s an audio drama that has done a Star Wars vs Warhammer story, I suggest you give it a listen.

[@crusaderxavier]

@@apolloknight9521 link

[@juliusbossman7280]

That would be awesome. If the Yuuzhan ever show up, they can hint that they fled their galaxy from Men of Iron

[@TheGreatThicc]

@@juliusbossman7280 plot twist: the Yuuzhan Vong were guiding a Tyranid Hive Fleet

[@92vanguard]

Well Star Wars and WH40K couldn't exist together because Star Wars is "a long time ago", and WH40K takes place in the 41st millennium, so 39 thousand years in the future.

[@NordicDan]

There was a theory I remember reading a while back that Shiv Palpatine had a vision of the Vong invasion, which is what led to his obsession with creating superweapons that could obliterate entire worlds, along with his descent into madness which caused him to fall to the Dark Side shortly before murdering Plagueis.

[@THESLICKNESSEDM]

It's from the expanded universe novels was Canon till Disney purchased the wars bastards

[@jeremymahaffey2019]

I remember reading the same thing somewhere, cannot remember where

[@sumguy01]

Except that he fell to the dark side when he murdered his whole family when he was just a boy. Darth Plagueis sensed his hate and power from across the Galaxy and traveled to Naboo to make him his apprentice. Only many years later, once Palpatine had been fully trained and granted the title of Darth Sidious, did he kill Darth Plagueis.

[@fluffly3606]

@@sumguy01, Perhaps they mean that was when the Dark Side truly began to consume and control him rather than the other way around? His behavior became increasingly erratic and irrational as time went on, especially in the Empire years, when the political mastermind actively encouraged his regime to destroy itself.

[@ryanartward]

I often think of it like the Galaxy being a lake with calm waters, and the dark space beyond is an ocean with constant storms with little opening to find. Going into it would essentially warp the ship and the crew into twisted shapes in different points of the universe.

[@1q2w3e1z2x3c]

Alan, don't give the Evil Empire any ideas! Perhaps the Celestials saw days of darkness coming and placed the barrier as a last defense against Disney's predation. The legions of the Rat has already decimated one galaxy, if they manage to get across the barrier, the devastation could be incalculable.

[@jeremiecl7335]

We know that the force only binds things native to the galaxy. The Vong, being outsiders, are absent from the force and can't be directly affected by it. So, what if hyperspace itself was a byproduct of the force? What if it was the actual link that binds everything in the galaxy together? In that sense, the hyperspace barrier would make sense, because outside of the galaxy the force isn't present. No force, no hyperspace.

[@Crafty_Spirit]

I'm quite sure the Yuuzhan Vong used hyperspace travel in their native galaxy, why else would they arrive in the Star Wars galaxy *with* FTL technology?

[@Perktube1]

I bet a Jedi could force throw a large boulder at a bong and he would feel it. 😉

[@jeremiecl7335]

@@Crafty_Spirit I think their FTL works differently in the books? Something about using gravity? Anyways, I'm not dying on this hill. I just thought it was an interesting idea... And then after posting I realised that it isn't even a very original idea because that's how FTL works in 40k

[@Crafty_Spirit]

@@jeremiecl7335 I am working from poor memory here 😅 And some logic. Actually I think you may refer to how the Vong's Dovin Basals create black holes for shields and ship propulsion, and that is certainly a manipulation of gravity. I think in the book series there was a meeting between Leia and Nom Anor in which he presented a hyperspace route map to her. She made a biting remark and he replied that the Yuuzhan Vong knew about this (the Hyperspace I guess) for a long time.

[@MrEmiosk]

@@jeremiecl7335 by manipulating gravity? Nope. 40k humanity works by a mix of magic and science-magic to bend/reduce reality space into tearing a hole into the world of thoughts and dreams. The Tau is the closest to achieving a fauximily of SW hyperspace, and it is about skimming the "surface" of the warp instead of diving into it. And the Yuuzhan Vong used what we call an alcubiere drive. Using gravity manipulation to bend space-time by making two points in relativistic space closer than they should be. Like the giant red boots from a fairy tale, when wearing the boots each step covered the same amount of ground that giants did, each step instead of moving you feets they moved you miles.

[@charleswade2514]

All the while Star Gate looks down and laughs.

[@thegrandbazaar8565]

All you got to do is step through the gate and bam your there 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Arendelft]

Generation Tech, question for you. What if the Rebellion had never happened, what if the Empire continued to exist and build up power right up until the Yuuzhan Vong war? How would they have faired against these galactic invaders? I theorize that that's basically what the entire Empire's fleet was designed to do. Shields were next to useless vs these creatures weapons, Tie Fighters have no shields but instead, their pilots must rely on agility and wits to survive battles. The Death Stars are also an interesting thought process when countering the Yuuzhan Vong's larger ships. A part of me wants to believe that Tarkin and Palpatine not only never adapted to fighting the rebels because they never took them seriously, but because they were gearing their military to fight a force of an entirely different kind. Goodness knows that Palpatine wanted the Jedi Expedition stopped dead in its tracks because he didn't want the Galaxy knowing just what was out there yet, he didn't want them uniting against a common foe when he needed them fighting each other so he could gain power (and he didn't want the invasion of the Yuuzhan Vong war triggered early by the Jedi before he was ready to face what was out there, because if the Jedi found or forced a way out, they'd essentially be showing whatever was out there a way in.) But back to my question, how would the war have turned out differently had the Empire still been in power when the invasion occurred? Would make for an interesting video.

[@bohicagaming4462]

All the tech buildup to fight the vong makes sense, what contradicts it is the entire military political environment and how goddamn incompetent they were.

[@Arendelft]

@@bohicagaming4462 I just feel at least some of that can be justified when you realize they didn't weren't preparing for a war of a completely different kind. Some of it... but overall, yeah, it has a lot of incompetence as well, however, that can be said of a lot of modern militaries as well. Just watch Critical Drinkers review of Path to Glory.

[@shaunkelly9053]

None of this is cannon. Disney threw out all those stories. I don’t like it but just saying.

[@hazyspark2387]

@@shaunkelly9053 None of Disney is cannon, seriously you can just ignore the mouse and enjoy Star Wars when it was good

[@shaunkelly9053]

@@hazyspark2387 true. But even before Disney, the books weren’t cannon. Just the movies.

[@jonathan4158]

Hoping they do explore other galaxies so we could get more Wars in Star Wars.

[@alexmiller3260]

Why not just explore unknown region or more planets in known part we never seen like Celsor (and thousands more)? Our planet has huge variety - a whole galaxy must have many more things to show and sides to fight.

[@bigfootwithinternetconnect2330]

@@alexmiller3260 The Unknown Regions remains largely unexplored due to the anomalies and dangers that occur there making it near impossible to traverse through there, I doubt it would ever get fully explored in-universe

[@alexmason2659]

They already did somewhat in the EU with the Yuzon vong war

[@alexmiller3260]

@@alexmason2659 European Union?

[@alexmason2659]

@@alexmiller3260 EU/Expanded Universe which is Star Wars legends

[@spartanwar1185]

Simple solution, use real space to bypass the barrier, then once beyond it, resume using hyperspace It's never clarified how thick the barrier is, but if it's thin enough, a cryostasis nap could work long enough

[@johnat856]

I believe that was a similar idea to what the Outbound Flight hoped to accomplish, but were stopped well before they got close to that boundary.

[@eds1942]

The barrier wasn’t preventing them from leaving the galaxy. It was preventing from being able to safely navigate through the Unknown Regions, which comprises about half of the galaxy. The idea is that the Celestials quarantined whole sectors throughout the eastern half to protect the rest of the galaxy from especially dangerous species, contagions, technologies and anomalies or perhaps the other way around. The Star Wars galaxy itself has two or three satellite or companion galaxies, at least one of which they can travel to. The general area around them is more broadly defined as Wild Space, where stellar density is low that you are screwed that if you have a breakdown while traveling to some obscure and isolated enough system that it makes it’s own rules. Beyond that we don’t know anything of any other galaxy or system that anyone came from or has been to and returned aside from the Yuuzhan Vong who came from some unknown and far off and essentially dead galaxy. My head-canon explanation for this is that; The Star Wars galaxy and its companions resides in one of the great comic voids of the universe. Making it more or less isolated from other galaxies or galaxy clusters by tens to hundreds of millions of light years. Thereby making an attempt to reach that far (let alone make a return trip) out of question. Especially if your thinking is that every galaxy probably has a long established civilization as your own does. Plus once there, you would have to take the time to map out the stars before you can attempt to hop your way between them at hyperspace speeds.

[@cjp1599]

Isn't ET from the Star Wars galaxy? Pretty sure he and his species made it to California in 1982 a few times.

[@eds1942]

@@cjp1599 I think Spielberg and Lucas suggested that they might be in the same universe. But, something to think about is IF they are and IF the Earth of ‘ET’ is our Earth, then ET wasn’t from the time that they Star Wars take place. But who knows? Perhaps ET was the one who gave Lucas their records that he based Star Wars on.

[@cjp1599]

@@eds1942 yeah I always thought ET recognized Yoda because Yoda was a legendary character in ET's world. Remeber it was a long time ago....

[@adolfodef]

@@cjp1599 The most likely case is that the RACES of E.T. and Yoda are "extragalactic" to both the "Milky Way" & "Far Far Away" galaxies. The specific character "E.T." recognizes Yoda´s race in general, but not Yoda himself as a character (because Yoda is fictional in E.T.´s universe). -> There may be a case of a real "Yoda analogue" that is famous for both E.T. and whoever "inspired" the makers of the Stars Wars movie (who may be an alien or just someone who learned from them). Then, the actual Yoda character may have being born thousands or millons of years later (when the human race reached "Far Far Away" galaxy). -> For even more posibilities: Multiversal Time Travel [No Paradoxes, ever]

[@nowthatsjustducky]

@@eds1942 How could he, when Empire had already come and gone in theaters by then. Remember, Elliot was showing ET his figures... "And this is Greedo; and this is Lando Calrissian. And they fight... pew-pew-pew..." Of course, ET and the rest of his crew could have already been on Earth for several years, doing their exploring and plant collecting, before the events of the movie, before they got discovered. So I guess ET could have found George and gave him the Star Wars pitch...after George had done is first horrendous draft with Anakin Starkiller...

[@RelativelyBest]

Star Wars: "We can't leave the galaxy because hyperdrives stop working." Star Trek: "We can't leave the galaxy because there's a literal barrier in the way." Mass Effect: "We did leave the galaxy once, but... well..."

[@filanfyretracker]

Andromeda was not a horrible game though, it had some issues yes but if it had gotten the trilogy it deserved it would have been equal to the original trilogy. Then we have Stargate: "We can go to any galaxy with a gate provided we have enough power. Or plug a ZPM into a 304 and go there the long way, also we have a flying city that can also go inter-galactic" Warframe: Last time we tried to leave the solar system our ship got lost in Hyperspace(the void) and the kids on the colony ship basically became demigods.

[@RelativelyBest]

@@filanfyretracker Yeah, I don't have any strong opinions on ME Andromeda. Mainly because I haven't played any Mass Effect. I just know a lot of people complained and I thought it would work as a joke.

[@morgantouvereyquilling3465]

Another more pragmatic reason to *not* leave the galaxy in Star Trek is that warp propulsion is much slower than Star Wars' hyperdrives. The Voyager was sent into another quadrant (at the other side of the galaxy, a little less even) and at top speed it would have taken 75 years to get back to federation space. So even if there was no barrier you'd need a generational ship to get to the nearest galaxy. For that reason I regret the invention of the magic galactic barrier that was not that much necessary in this universe. Except maybe for instant subspace comms that wouldn't be blocked...

[@badgamemaster]

Didn't the Celestials also move around planets to keep Abeloth locked up?

[@XAlted1]

Black holes iirc, they basically made a ball of black holes around her to keep her in

[@justinkitts3381]

Yes

[@johnnygyro2295]

The Celestials used Centerpoint Station, or something similar, to create the Maw Cluster of Black Holes as Abeloth's prison. Moving planets was when they used Centerpoint to apparently make the Corellia System...

[@slicerneons3300]

RIP Norm Macdonald, the Gelatinous hero we need, but sid not deserve. Yophit is the best Chief Engineer of the 21st century.

[@NeidalRuekk]

The Legends continuity also had the Ssi-Ruuvi, basically dinosaurs with technology from your nightmares, who were technically outside the galaxy. The early New Jedi Order books summed up the hyperspace disturbance as a storm, but just because it HAD been there for quite some time, it didn't mean it would be there for ALL time. It's also quite possible that the barrier was more pockmarked with holes than people generally believed, as playing with hyperspace travel was extraordinarily chancy at best. In the book Dark Tide 1, a group of pirates ran into a Yuuzhan Vong attack group who simply took the pirates apart badly. Even with the threat of devastation, the Nebulon B Frigate's navigator was VERY unsure about jumping blindly into hyperspace, and only did so reluctantly. A similar thing happened with both Cassian Andor and Jorj Car'das; both were unwilling to make such moves lightly, and only did it as a total last resort. Cassian was fleeing the shockwave on Jedha, and Jorj was on a ship whose captain had badly irritated a Hutt. I think personally that leaving the galaxy COULD have been done in Legends at least, the HIMS invention made it possible, but the sheer unknown of what was out there persuaded most people otherwise. Many may have gone and been lost and the stories did the rest.

[@viktubeproductions3314]

Didn’t Anakin, Ahsoka, and ObiWan leave the Galaxy? They went throw a portal to get to Mortis. ObiWan said that he wasn’t sure if they were even in they’re own Galaxy. When they were sent back they were only gone a moment according to Rex.

[@tracylyell9440]

They didn't leave the galaxy they were pulled into another dimension of the galaxy were the three beings; father, daughter, and son resided. The father controls the means to transit the dimensions. His death and a spaceship was the only way the son could leave.

[@kennethferland5579]

The fact that time distortiona happened suggjests that wormholes or some phenomena like the world-between-worlds was used, not hyperspace.

[@michaelvandegriff6696]

Child of the 80's here so I know good and well that E.T. somehow made it to Earth from the Star Wars galaxy so there is definitely a way.

[@realamerican7626]

Be funny as hell if the Vorlons and shadows from the B5 universe put it there to keep the Jedi/sith contained because they are such a major headache to deal with

[@rumsmuggler30]

E.T.'s people eventually found a way out of their galaxy, but some consider that just to be an Easter egg.

[@astealthywaffle1495]

I'm glad you mentioned outbound flight and the Vong! those came to mind instantly when i saw this video

[@pirobot668beta]

The Barrier is a kind of intelligence test: find a practical way through or stay bottled up. It has defensive properties, but I think the Barrier was put in place to keep 'us' inside. We have to invent our way out...

[@arlipscomb]

Always interesting to see someone try and find answers to problems within a fictional construct. Of course we know from Star Trek TOS that there is an energy barrier that prevents exiting galaxies, Star Wars or otherwise.

[@geraldwatts5492]

I wouldn't say that we "know" this fact from ST:TOS. They made that up. Which is fine, but not only can we not confirm that such a barrier is real, but each narrative universe (Star Trek, Star Wars etc) is bound to have their own interpretation on things we know little/nothing about such as a galactic barrier.

[@defeatSpace]

It would be interesting if they expand past the galaxy, like how Halo explores the origins of the Precursors and the end of the Forerunners in the Magellanic Cloud.

[@johndavis2905]

Never underestimate Disney's uncanny ability to drastically screw things up.

[@nickryan3417]

True. Some writer will probably introduce time travel to Star Wars and then it'll all start to get as stupid as Star Trek whenever this happens.

[@bryanCJC2105]

The image of a star at 2:43 is actually a slice of salami. Apparently is got in the media as an image of a star but, it isn't. Long live Pepperoni!!

[@y2kman1000]

Wasnt it a piece of chorizo? Regardless Twas a funny moment 💀

[@blackc1479]

@@y2kman1000 yep, chorizo. Was going to mention it too lol

[@HopelessRetirement]

Came down here just to see if anyone knew about the chorizo. I am not disappointed.

[@Suz4n650]

It was a joke from E. Klein. French science philosopher.

[@itsasecrettoeverybody]

Disney doesn't need another galaxy, they need better writers.

[@bonma6137]

And what if the better writers are in another galaxy ? :D

[@itsasecrettoeverybody]

@@bonma6137 good writers wouldn't need it to make good stories. It would be irrelevant.

[@bonma6137]

@@itsasecrettoeverybody I'm not sure if it is not needed. A good story is always surprising and exciting at least for me. I'm open for anything if the story is well written. Even for another Galaxy ;)

[@itsasecrettoeverybody]

@@bonma6137 with any scenery a good writer will make a good story and a bad writer a bad one. That is why it's irrelevant. Tolkien worked with only one planet and even within his life time he wasn't able to write everything he wanted. So many good series had spacial limitations and it was irrelevant to the quality of the stories.

[@bonma6137]

I don't really agree with you. Depending on the story another galaxy could turn out to be relevant. My english is not do good to argue with you better. But what limit do you mean? Like you can't have a Starfighter in Lord of Rings ? Or you can't explore a new view of your story?

[@jeremymahaffey2019]

I am glad that you referenced Outbound Flight....one of my favorite Star Wars books hands down. Of course any book that contains Thrawn is an outstanding story :)

[@TheWarmachine375]

No wonder denizens of the Star Wars galaxy are afraid of the Unknown Regions outside their boundaries.

[@joshuawells835]

To be fair, Star Trek has its own problems, such as Discovery and Picard. The Orville isn't technically Star Trek, but it's the best parody since Galaxy Quest, so people love it anyway.

[@shanehudson3995]

Less a parody and more a homage, but McFarland's writing is very annoying at times.

[@captainufo4587]

Star Trek as of now is pretty solid with Strange New Worlds and, in minor part, Lower Decks.

[@shanehudson3995]

@@captainufo4587 No, Strange New Worlds is solid. STD and Picard still resemble what happens when fetal alcohol syndrome and a grievous head injury are tossed into a blender set to frappe.

[@sidroberts7960]

I find it a bit strange that the Yuzhaan Vong were mentioned, but it wasn't mentioned that they were originally from the Star Wars Galaxy and were flung out of the galaxy by the living planet Zonama Sekot. So they technically went through this barrier in both directions.

[@AceSpadeThePikachu]

I too have always been curious about what lies beyond the Outer Rim of the Star Wars galaxy. Likewise I'd love to see other FTL technologies explored in Star Wars. Perhaps something similar to Star Trek's Warp Drives, which have their own pros and cons. In Star Trek, even at the highest warp factors most Star Fleet ships were capable of (the Warp 10 = infinite speed thing from the Voyager episode "Threshold" not withstanding because... nobody considers that canon for good reason), it would take a ship several decades to cross the galaxy. So WAAAAY slower that Star Wars' Hyperdrives, but still far better than sub-light travel. Plus, since warp bubbles merely bend local space rather than dip into another dimension, it might not suffer the same weird side effects Hyperspace travel does. Though for the reasons listed above, while a warp drive MIGHT have an easier time passing through the "barrier" (in some Star Trek novels warp drives were even used to escape from within the event horizon of a supermassive black hole, since black holes themselves are just regions of extremely warped spacetime), trying to get to another galaxy on a standard warp drive alone would take millennia. So in my opinion, the most plausible way to jump between galaxies is with a wormhole. Probably one of the most popular scifi FTL tropes next to Warp and Hyperspace due to its mathematical plausibility within Einstein's equations of general relativity. It'd be awesome to see in Star Wars a mega-structure built that's like a giant Star Gate that can fit an entire Super Star Destroyer through it easily.

[@randizzle99]

Man, I don’t know why but that shot of the General Lee while you said “slower than light travel” has me rolling

[@yungdappermane]

Just wanna say I love the videos there always consistent good theories and information

[@davidduvall1947]

Just discovered you, so late to the party. But 1 word: Picard. Ok, fighting word said, love your channel so far

[@whiterabbit4606]

I guess Star Wars astronomers haven't encountered the concept of dark matter. I would think that that would be a great explanation for the hyperspace barrier.

[@TheJackster01]

2:42 showed us a pepperoni like we wouldn't notice

[@GenerationTech]

Gt fans know what’s up

[@lerneanlion]

Hey, Alan! Did you know that the channel known as The Amagi just posted a video about George Lucas' life like six minutes before you will have this video posted? I don't know if this is a coincidence or not but whatever the case is, you and your team of Generation Tech and friends from Geetsly's can check it out if you wanted and are available to do so! As for the video's content, it's raised this quiestion to me. Is it possible for the peoples in Star Wars galaxy to develop the organic ghips similar to the Yuuzhan Vong to travel outside of their own galaxy?

[@eds1942]

First off the Great Hyperspace Barrier doesn’t prevent them from exiting the galaxy. Their galaxy actually has two or three companion dwarf galaxies which they can travel to. The barrier does prevent them from safely navigating through most of the eastern half of the galaxy which they call the Unknown Regions. They can travel to other galaxies beyond their own and it’s companion dwarfs, but it would take years. Plus they’d have the problem of needing to thoroughly map the stars along their course for hyperspace travel once there. Which could take years even with an astromech (which has navigational charts to work with based on thousands of years of observations) or a strong Force sensitive trained for such work… and then hope that if that new galaxy has an extensive civilization as their own, that the locals will be welcoming. So yes, but no. As for the Vong, their method of travel needs mass shadows to feel out. So, if there are no planets, stars or black holes around, their ships are forced to travel at sublight speeds.

[@Alverant]

The barrier isn't there to keep things out, it's to keep something in.

[@bc64100]

true disney garbage star snot

[@gwiber]

Isn't it odd that the Rebels at the end of Empire Strikes Back, are sitting in ships WELL outside the galaxy getting their sh*t back together for the rest of the series.

[@bullhorn143]

Came to comment this. Tf looks like they could get out just fine

[@robertbench5187]

It was made back in the 80s when the lore of Star Wars hasn't been properly established yet.

[@svennoren9047]

@@robertbench5187 The original trilogy is canon. Therefore the possibility of traveling far outside of the galaxy is canon. Q.E.D.

[@robertbench5187]

@@svennoren9047 Yes but the lore of the galaxy hasn't fully realized yet until Legends came out which was released years after the release of Return of the Jedi.

[@Phoenix1Leader]

An explanation is that they are viewing another Galaxy which was forced to unrealistically be “moving” as a static yet realistic image of a non-moving galaxy would appear to be a picture, thereby ruining the symbolism of the shot. However, the fact that it is moving can actually offer another explanation: it’s not another Galaxy, it’s a Star forming, which also works in context and meaningful symbolism.

[@DMSProduktions]

Ironically, Star Trek, (set in 'our' galaxy) also has a barrier at its edge that was treacherous to penetrate! Its energies often evolving certain individuals of various species with latent esper protential, to god like abilities, which also made them into god like narcissists!

[@kittysupersuper]

There's one in the center, as well... but you'll encounter a slightly different problem there.

[@DMSProduktions]

@@kittysupersuper Yes. GOD!!!

[@nowthatsjustducky]

@@DMSProduktions I thought Spock blasted it to kingdom come.

[@DMSProduktions]

@@nowthatsjustducky HE DID! (Or will do in a few centuries!)

[@Llortnerof]

@@DMSProduktions He is going to have done so?

[@jcbvortex22]

You know there are people out there who enjoy both Star Trek and Star Wars and are fans of both and don’t diss either one!

[@gerbill13]

i enjoy wars trek and 40k

[@alexmiller3260]

Reality: trip from Tatooine to Alderaan (approx radius of the SW galaxy) took hours or even days. Distance to the nearest galaxy can easily be multiple times more than diameter of star wars galaxy itself. So, trip to another galaxy can take months. Even in SW you need all kinds of supplies to travel and here you need very much to just reach the goal and extremely more to fly back. Also galaxies are moving in space and navigation in the void between galaxies is hard. And all this stuff for nothing, because you don't really need worlds outside your lively galaxy, SW galaxy has thousands of life planets and trillion+ lifeless planets full of resources. Geeks: invisible physically questionable hyperspace barrier. Yeah, that's it

[@shanehudson3995]

An ISD had five years of provisions. If it only took months, the Empire would have invaded. It took took the Vong millennia to get from their galaxy to the SW galaxy. Then another thousand years to find an invasion route, but I think a lot of that was prepping for the fight and self purging their population, because they are deeply stupid.

[@chanchong6780]

Yeah, Star wars tends to overexplain some aspects of its worldbuilding

[@michaeldougherty2807]

Could just be in the middle of a void where it would take hundreds of years.

[@kennyhudson9201]

No matter how vast the resources, if humans could leave the galaxy, they would, just to do it. Just to see it done. I suspect this comment is from a bot or alien, because they clearly don't know humans. LOL.

[@cosmictreason2242]

Thing is op, it only takes a few people to want to explore, to torpedo your explanation. You haven’t shown that NOBODY would be interested. That’s why it doesn’t work as an explanation

[@AmazingJayB51]

I’m glad I like Star Trek and Star Wars, more to watch for me! 😁

[@zaydizzle]

Pretty sure its widely accepted that Ray clicked her heals together 3 times and manifested the gigantic force shield around the galaxy, performing a feat no man could ever hope to replicate.

[@qliphalpuzzle5453]

It’s interesting in the last few legends books, there were hints from Killik hives that before or maybe the beginning of the Rakatans some of type of terrifying war occurred between Abeloth and the Celestial and The Ones factions. Possible that the gravitational phenomenons are an ancient strategy to corner Abeloth during that eons lost war

[@qliphalpuzzle5453]

The Rakatans might of been the client races corrupted by Abeloth

[@dootless3819]

There's also the problem of fuel. It's entirely possible that there wouldn't be any ships with the range to get to another galaxy

[@vbucci6894]

I'm curious how the majority of star wars channels would react if they were Isekaied into the star wars universe. Gen tech, Eck's ladder, Star wars theory would lose their shit. Lore would create a journal to bring back to our world. Stupendous wave would just sell merch. And Star Wars cantina would just be a star wars political activist.

[@shaydowsith348]

It just would depend where and when they landed. During the Old Republic? During the Galactic Empire? On Alderaan right before the Death Star does it's thing? On tatooine in the Dune Sea with a dragon nearby? 🙂

[@rphlcrvz]

I doubt Eck would lose his shit. He'd just obsess over Abeloth and never stop talking about it.

[@macekreislahomes1690]

About 02:00 "....... and then there's Hyperspace where physics goes out the window" Teck a Cammando of The Bad Batch: I can explain how the physics work with Hyperspace.

[@zacfox409]

In Timothy Zain’s 6 canon Thrawn books he goes into a lot of detail about Hyperspace travel and the rules that ships have to abide by. He even talks about how the prescience of force-sensitives can allow hyperspace travel through unmapped parts of the galaxy. Really worth a read (for the story and the Star Wars lore).

[@ryanhayes68]

As a fan of both universes, wars and trek, I'm going to argue trek is winning? It's also the same similar fandom; some shows great, some bad. Can we just all be happy that we are still getting new content?

[@Nichodo]

The Hyperspace Barrier is pretty much like the Galactic Barrier from Star Trek :D

[@alessiodecarolis]

An interesting twist could be that the Force depends on the barrier, and getting out of SW galaxy mean losing the powers...

[@Otterdisappointment]

I like the idea that the barrier is unique and was made by an outside party to keep stuff out or in. It’d keeps the denizens of the Star Wars galaxy away from us if it’s really supposed to neighbor ours. Also Imagine if Mass Effect had that barrier with small jump drives instead of the reverse.

[@gilliganhowell2827]

ok at 2:54 he's right gravity of objects in real space can destroy ships. so which movie was it where they made a bunch of jumps into the atmosphere of various planets? they can't do that according to technical manuals.

[@Nusma]

All that would be needed is deactivating the hyper drive's safety mechanism, it seems. Then you ignore all the gravitational anomalies which seem to not really have anything physical behind them anyway so you won't crash against anything. And after you've passed the anomalies, you can switch it back on.

[@TanukiTracks]

But what if there is something physical there? Then turning off the safety mechanism would basically be suicidal.

[@Nusma]

@@TanukiTracks A: Space isn't that crowded with objects, that's why it's quite unlikely for this to happen. B: Even if, this could easily be avoided by using drones. You shoot a cheap sacrificial vessel down the path you want to take, it flies with hyper speed for a set amount of time and afterwards sends a confirmation signal back. If the signal doesn't arrive when expected then the drone probably crashed and this particular route isn't safe.

[@TanukiTracks]

@@Nusma That could work, though I feel like it would be a pretty expensive project. Plus, it doesn't tell you *how* it was destroyed and I think they may have more to worry about than just space debris out there.

[@LineOfThy]

@@Nusma the hyperdrive has a failsafe for a reason. if it automatically pulls you out, you bet those gravitational anomalies are dangerous.

[@quickfate]

wait, so when the sith return from unknown space in the times of the old republic is that beyond the great barrier? and where exactly is zakul (or whatever its called) in the galaxy that it was undiscovered for so long before swtor?

[@shaydowsith348]

Zakuul is in the unknown regions. The Sith empire is on the right side if you look at a 2 dimensional map, the unknown is on the left side, with the republic worlds sort of in the middle and south.

[@mmpetrovich]

I understand that, when they were conceived, there was a narrative necessity for the intergalactic barriers of Star Wars and Star Trek. However, they are both largely unnecessary as the vast distances between galaxies would generally render any intergalactic travel impractical.

[@agmfett]

In Tales from Bounty Hunters, in the story about Zuckuss and 4LOM they indicate that when scaping from Hoth many small ships were unable to reach the rendevous point above the galactic plane because it took a great amount of energy to scape from the galaxy gravity well

[@alexmiller3260]

Hyperspace is actually a scientifically possible thing. You can fold time-space around the ship and move faster than the light speed

[@micahottaway8455]

Okay, two things come to mind. One, this is not the same as the description given for hyperspace travel in Star Wars as that describes going into another dimension. Two, to fold space as described requires something that only works mathematically using Einstein's field equations that would require exotic or dark matter.

[@geminitheavali5018]

Wouldn't that technically be more of a Warpdrive than a Hyperdrive? Since by using a Hyperdrive you essentially make use of moving through another dimension. And not of contracting/expanding Space-time in front of/behind the spacecraft like you would with a Warpdrive Edit: sorry for the long comment

[@alexmiller3260]

@@geminitheavali5018 oh, I thought those are similar concepts (•ө•) But technically this also seems possible if wormholes and negative mass present in star wars...

[@alexmiller3260]

@@micahottaway8455 I forget, that hyperspace is not same as warpspace. Now I see, why it is called hyper...

[@geminitheavali5018]

@@micahottaway8455 sorry for commenting some of the same information as you. At the time of posting your comment somehow wasn't yet shown to me (eventhough you've posted it 5 minutes prior)

[@f4rnsworth138]

what about E.T. and his race? ET seemed to recognize the costume the kid wore of Yoda, and his race appears in the Galactic Senate in the prequels

[@OllamhDrab]

I still wonder if Orville's green blob guy is a hat-tip to Schlock Mercenary. I guess the googley-eyes would be a bit much? :)

[@venkelos6996]

I thought that there were a few other named galaxies in proximity to the one Star Wars takes place in, and even some knowledge of them. I also thought that Kamino was extragalactic, so are these places outside the confines of the galaxy, but still within the barrier, plot holes, or what? This was a fun video, and I'm usually glad to hear content that likes to revisit Legends, as I miss it.

[@cjp1599]

And ET made it to the milky way...

[@nowthatsjustducky]

For all we know, that galaxy far far away could be our Andromeda galaxy. 2.5m years qualifies as a galaxy far far away.

[@luisemoralesfalcon4716]

thanks for explaining the limitations to our dreams.

[@kaboom-zf2bl]

love the Voyager data incorporation into the star wars universe ... yes Voyager I after it was extra solar beyond the Ort cloud detected ... "gravity bubbles" ... how interesting that the same thing surrounds the star wars universe

[@taavidude]

Some guy: I'm gonna travel out of the galaxy, how hard can it be? Yuuzhan Vong vibing right outside the galaxy: So, you have chosen death.

[@isaacgraff8288]

Fun theory, the Hyperspace Lanes and the bubble are connected. Kind of a "you can play where ever you want in your room' sort of thing.

[@Perktube1]

How about not traveling to the edge of the galaxy, but going straight 'up' out of the disk, then going whatever direction you need to the nearest galaxy.

[@Weeklong_Seagull]

I like to think that celestials are so much more powerful and advanced than even thought that the Star wars Galaxy is just a garden to them and all the hyperspace barriers are just fencing to keep all the animals out

[@ingurlund9657]

This was really enjoyable. Thank you.

[@dragonrider1279]

this aged badly, still epic as always tho. love the content

[@stuartl7761]

Here's a theory. If the Yuuzhan Vong couldn't travel between galaxies at ftl speeds, that might hint that maybe hyperspace itself was created by the celestials, or at least made traversable, and the barrier is just the end of the region of space they connected up. Thoughts?

[@jedidrummerjake]

Beautiful back yard, Allen!

[@Hugin-N-Munin]

Apart from the glitch in the matrix in the first 7 seconds

[@jedidrummerjake]

@@Hugin-N-Munin Dear God! You're right. Good eye! I had to watch it again.

[@arch8angel]

I will admit I read little of the original books written before Disney bought it, so this is the first I am hearing of the barrier, but it would make sense that the barrier was made to keep the rakata at bay and held within the galaxy

[@thenatural1759]

Completely making this up, but here's a simple space magic answer for you. To sustain hyperspace (dimensional) travel, there is a threshold of matter required in real space (which includes all of the quantum mechanics and astrophysics that that implies). So if they travelled from the outer edge of the Star awars galaxy to another at sub-hyperspace speeds, once they arrive at the threshold (presumably on the quantum level) amount of matter within the new galaxy, they could then travel in hyperspace again.

[@PtrOBrn]

1:17 ZING!!!! oh... sad now. I loved both... but yes all I have is Mando and Orville.

[@justrandom90]

Hyperspace barrier remind me of the effect generator from expeditionary force by craig alanson. Basically the effect generator are wormhole that built by the ancient elder to protect the milky way galaxy as well as nearby smaller dwarve galaxy from outside threat also the wormhole doesnt connect to anywhere nothing goes in and nothing goes out.

[@UlookinMe]

That’s series started so good by like book 14 is was kinda over it.

[@justrandom90]

@@UlookinMe yeah i kinda wanna know more hopefully book 15 gave all the answer that we needed

[@god1971b]

Alan, Man if thats your home garden in the background am seriously envious.

[@DomR1997]

I'm always happy to have you guys grace my screen with your content. Really helps elevate my day a bit. Keep being awesome! Edit: Comrade2261 and I are the true First Ones, the rest are cheap imitations, playing at powers they can not comprehend.

[@Comrade2261]

This is gonna be good.

[@B-A-L]

Well this KZbin page hasn't aged very well!

[@curioso4762]

i remember one of the original movies the rebel fleet is far away from the galaxy and thru the ship´s window we could see their galaxy a bit distant.

[@DecentralizedGaming000]

I always wonddered if palpatine had plans himself for expanding after the vong in legends

[@JunoSolarWinds]

If they could Hyper jump to other Galaxies, the Falcon might have ended up here watching our dinosaur's chillin

[@ezriclarajones9262]

Like I think what would be awesome is if there was a supreme group of races similar to the ascended beings in Stargate...That seal off force powerful galaxies as the force is the key to ascension. HOWEVER in order to do that full balance has to be reached in the target galaxy so peace to make that happen. Kinda like the balance required similar to the Omega molecules in Star Trek Voyager, but this balance in Star Wars creates a sympathetic frequency that pushes the Galactic barrier away creating navigation points. Once Hyperspace points are detected from outside the Star Wars galaxy they are met by these more powerful ascended beings and taught about the universe in preparation for them to join the Extragalactic community. HOWEVER the final test is how they react to potential threats, as in do they kill them, do they make peace or to demonstrate they are in balance with the force they nullify the threat by stopping them but don't go down the irradiation process.

[@ChivasKimber]

hahahaha I wonder how many people caught the picture of the chorizo lol. Nice one!

[@kaltenstein7718]

Interesting bit about the.... Strange German version of the original Star Wars: Han Solo referes to The Jump to Hyperspace as "The Jump through the Light-barrier" as one would do with the sound-barrier

[@jayhutch12]

Did anyone else notice that Alan is caught in a “Déjà vu” instance at the beginning of the video? Literally has the exact same cat walk the exact same way in the background of the first couple of seconds of the video.

[@NP-zt6hy]

Digging the new garden background

[@juidude634]

If you go thru the bubble sub light speeds, can you then use hyperdrive?

[@Ben-Ken]

There's no need to find a new galaxy for new stories. The galaxy has millions of planets and trillions of beings to explore. There are probably beings in the outer rim that never heard of Tatooine or Jedi. Not everyone is connected to the greater galaxy or bothered to learn basic.

[@Lulu-ex7fc]

Love the ship in the thumbnail. Found it a few weeks ago myself.

[@ElBartos76]

What kind of ship is that?

[@Cure-Skywalker]

We might hear more about it soon in the Ahsoka show. Because the ending of Rebels was Ezra throwing himself and Thrawn past the edge of the Galaxy.

[@julescugnet9154]

2:43 Ah yes, the famous proxima centauri's James Webb photo 😂

[@timbradwell3205]

You may be talking about stuff surrounding the known space dividing the outer rim territories and wild space

[@elperrodelautumo7511]

Maybe the human ancestors in the Star Wars galaxy were human beings from the Milky Way galaxy that hyperdrive to another galaxy and they lost coordinates to get back home to earth and decided to settle in the planet that would become Coruscant.

[@jonathanpilcher337]

Well based on "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" it's reversed, humans in the Milky Way galaxy would be lost settlers from the Star Wars galaxy

[@solarsailor1534]

There was actually a cancelled Star Wars novel called Alien Exodus that would have had that as a plot line. The novel had Human refugees fleeing the oppressive Earth of the film THX 1138. They accidentally entered a wormhole and ended up in the Star Wars galaxy. Ironically this would have made George Lucas other films American Graffiti and THX 1138 a canonical part of the Star Wars universe.

[@tofersiefken]

One species from the Star Wars galaxy that successfully crossed the galactic barrier and arrived in the Milky Way galaxy, the Sol system and Earth is the Asogiana, E.T.'s species that appears in the galactic senate in Episode 1: The Phantom Menace and on Earth in the movie E.T.

[@EarhirX]

So, I have a question. When Obi Wan went to Kamino from Coruscant it most have taken him around 3 or 4 days. Did he make stops along the way?

[@Eques_Umbra]

With a Jedi's ability to put themself into a stasis nap of sorts, I doubt it.

[@ltrtg13]

How did E.T. get to Earth. His ship must have had a cryo chamber. As well as the knowledge to get out of the Star Wars universe.

[@kennyhudson9201]

E.T may have been escaping the destruction of the Star Wars Galaxy. Because his species was there a long time ago, since Star Wars happened a long time ago.

[@emilv.3693]

You cut off "Welcome"