5 Reasons The First Order Is So Vulnerable

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The First Order's future is uncertain, with supreme leader Snoke "dead" will Kylo Ren lead them to victory? We take a look at five main vulnerabilities with the First order.
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@MrBiggrim
@MrBiggrim 5 жыл бұрын
6th reason. They're Space Nazis - So no plot armour.
@thekak2627
@thekak2627 3 жыл бұрын
i agree
@user-rr6jj5mr6f
@user-rr6jj5mr6f 5 жыл бұрын
(On the Finaliser) Generation tech: I wouldn't put this guy in charge of a lemonade stand Kylo Ren: (starts to cry) Hux: (plays galaxy's smallest violin)
@isaacgraff8288
@isaacgraff8288 5 жыл бұрын
Kylo has Bipolar Alignment Disorder.
@casbot71
@casbot71 5 жыл бұрын
9:02 I now have to see Kylo Ren run a lemonade stand …
@spartanhawk7637
@spartanhawk7637 5 жыл бұрын
"Sir, the lemonade is too sour-" *"DRINK IT YOU WHELP!"*
@DMSProduktions
@DMSProduktions 5 жыл бұрын
@@someweirdidiot8736 Let alone knowing how to spell it!
@ugoeze7360
@ugoeze7360 5 жыл бұрын
The First Order's biggest flaw? Displeasing Papa Palpatine with their many past failures... To which he sets off *Contingency 2.0*
@Knightwolf1994
@Knightwolf1994 5 жыл бұрын
I ain't gonna lie, I'd pay to see Papa Palpatine just destroy them out of spite just because of their sheer incompetence.
@Alex_Ander_
@Alex_Ander_ 5 жыл бұрын
You can conquer the galaxy from your ship but you cannot rule it from your ship.
@turkeybeard2010
@turkeybeard2010 5 жыл бұрын
Especially if it's been Kamikaze in two with a good chunk of your Fleet.
@sweden4thewin
@sweden4thewin 5 жыл бұрын
Is that a Gengish Khan quote? Change galaxy for world and ship for horse
@blackshogun272
@blackshogun272 5 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest, Darth Malgus was the greatest Sith Leader ever...
@metaouroboros690
@metaouroboros690 5 жыл бұрын
A giant mobile homeworld isn't a bad idea, but it shouldn't be a military ship. Exposing it to the front line was CLEARLY a mistake, and as the hopeful capital of a government wide empire it should be used for governance and economics, not shooting things. Imagine if a bunch of important diplomats had been on the ship when it was damaged. Heck, we don't know how many vital government officials were killed by the hyperspace ramming.
@blackshogun272
@blackshogun272 5 жыл бұрын
@@metaouroboros690 I woulda rather a fleet of smaller 42Km Death Stars than a single mobile base that was basically the ultimate flying metal dorito 😫 At least with about 3-8 mini Death Stars the could cause mass destruction and hold an absurd amount of resources and firepower. And with all that new high-tech shit the F.O. preaches about they should be able to make more efficient Death Stars. I just thought about how cool it would been for the Supremacy to be surrounded by 8 mini Death Stars coming out of hyperspace. The overkill factor would be like sending Nappa to Attack on Titan 😂😂😂
@Akkarin-wq8rr
@Akkarin-wq8rr 5 жыл бұрын
The two biggest problems the First Order has coming for them : 1) The last movie in the trilogy is coming which means they'll probably all die 2) Ryan Johnson controls their fate
@davidhughes5125
@davidhughes5125 5 жыл бұрын
They are lead by a whiny teenager with no tactical inteligence what's ever (3
@frostyoreo8657
@frostyoreo8657 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidhughes5125 Also a over confident ginger.
@KitsyKitsune-Vtuber
@KitsyKitsune-Vtuber 5 жыл бұрын
3. Made by jar jar abrams
@casbot71
@casbot71 5 жыл бұрын
6: Thins out the weakness in their ranks, shows _General Hux._ 7: Creates a mobile base that is the core of their whole movement, had it lead the chase against the enemy fleet when they have extremely powerful (and possibly faster) Star Destroyers that are more than up to the task. Should have had smaller fast ships like corvettes and frigates harass the fleeing fleet as well. What if the Resistance had mines? They needlessly risk the one ship they can't risk losing. [could be considered 6b, cause 6a caused that] 8. Still keep most of their multitude of Tie fighters docked during the battle to destroy the R̶e̶b̶e̶l̶s̶ Resistance, instead only sending out a three man fighter group lead by your action Sith in his custom machine. 9. Still haven't learnt the concept of keeping an eye out for the _Millennium Falcon_ in case it swoops in, or even having a picket ship waiting to nail it when it's swoops back out afterwards. 10. All your ground troops are camouflaged only for operations on Ice worlds and art deco installations. *Couple of Old timers sitting around see First Order troops:* Hey those guys look just like Imperial Stormtroopers, man I killed a lot of those back in the day. [pegs a few shots at the First Order troops, who fall over] Yup…die just the same.
@sheevone4359
@sheevone4359 5 жыл бұрын
"Only for operations on ice worlds and art deco installations" 😂😂😂 I love it...
@alexissandoval1284
@alexissandoval1284 5 жыл бұрын
Besides the fact that stormtroopers were highly elite shock troops that killed thousands of rebel soldiers in the beginning of the rebellion, had advanced armor and sensirs, as well as one of the most reliable blasters in history. Then, the first order, who are trained in guerrilla tactics and are very flexible in combat, as well as being lighter, faster, and stronger. Tantive IV, anyone? First battle in all of Star Wars? Only a few stormtrooper casualties versus dozens of trained and well-funded diplomatic escort veterans?
@a_balloon
@a_balloon 3 жыл бұрын
8. False, Empire was worse: about 20 or even more rebel fighters attacked death star, and they sent a total of 6 fighters; Hell, they were even worse in everything, their troopers lost to ewoks by getting hit by sticks. They lost a SSD due to broken A-wing. They lost DS2 due to bad planning. They SOMEHOW lost the entire battle of endor while having all that, a surprise trap on their side plus tens of star destroyers. In meanwhyle an animatronic called "Vader" fought flyboy God Luke a couple of times to win, but yet to lose by him running away on a dumb way. So shut up with that, your beloved prequel Empire was not all rainbow and perfection, they were even 100 x worse that the FO
@AndreyKarlovich
@AndreyKarlovich 5 жыл бұрын
They would eventually become ......the last order.
@blackshogun272
@blackshogun272 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like that is gonna be something Rey tell Kylo as they brutally fight in the rain atop The Falcon in the next movie. While Kylo is spouting that she is just an immature child running with blade and feeling like a champion who had never slain a true beast, Rey can be returning shit like how he is just a bipolar sociopath on the verge of collapse with his "Last" Order !
@The-kr9rb
@The-kr9rb 4 жыл бұрын
How right you were...
@mericaman6388
@mericaman6388 4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations, your a prophet.
@tk-756brony6
@tk-756brony6 5 жыл бұрын
3:44 I love how you showed the *mining explosion* on Jedha when talking about our Empire's yearning to spread economic growth.
@tk-756brony6
@tk-756brony6 5 жыл бұрын
@Peters6221 Weeeell.. In a sense we did succeed at spreading the "economic growth" all over the small moon... and into its orbit. Pretty sure "economic growth" will cloud its atmosphere for decades to come. *Mission Failed Successfully!*
@greeners021
@greeners021 5 жыл бұрын
Mace fell out the windu
@Booozy3050
@Booozy3050 5 жыл бұрын
Hey now leave Ace Window...I mean mace outa this lol.
@MarvelMTs
@MarvelMTs 5 жыл бұрын
Sam Greenbank bum bum bummmm!
@lorenzoromero7629
@lorenzoromero7629 5 жыл бұрын
That's *shockingly* funny.
@andyb1653
@andyb1653 5 жыл бұрын
The windu, the windu, the 700th-storey windu! He tried to take the Emperor's head, so 'e threw 'im out the windu!
@johnhenryegeolu8017
@johnhenryegeolu8017 5 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha ha ha
@casbot71
@casbot71 5 жыл бұрын
3:30 But it left a lot of dying worlds… and a lot of pissed off _Rose Tico's._ How exactly is this _bad_ for the First Order? Rose as a member of your enemies forces is a benifit to you. Now her sister was a serious "where's my Mandator?" problem. But that was a one off, Rose is the gift that keeps on giving.
@metaouroboros690
@metaouroboros690 5 жыл бұрын
Competent sisters that only appear onscreen for a minute aside, I think the First Order might be better off not having to babysit the Mandator IV. They clearly weren't up to the task...
@andyb1653
@andyb1653 5 жыл бұрын
@@metaouroboros690 I think the 1st Order WANTED the Mandator IV to get rekt. Random FO Line Officer: "Hey, all our new ships look badass AF... Why does **THAT** one look freakin' retarded?"
@fgabrieltomas
@fgabrieltomas 5 жыл бұрын
The first order needs a union. Really bad and harassing management
@casbot71
@casbot71 5 жыл бұрын
Yeh, the lack of a HR department is a legacy of the Empire, Vader Force choked them all. Something in the Sith handbook.
@arjusarauis9901
@arjusarauis9901 5 жыл бұрын
Especially the workplaces! Employee: “Hey, boss! Remember that Joe Ark guy who falls off the ledge in Death Star’s firing chamber? We should put up some guard rails around the station.” Imperial Officer: “I know, right? They are awful on safety aspect.”
@dlastkatipunero2185
@dlastkatipunero2185 5 жыл бұрын
At least the previous sith empire had competent strategists and more stoic sith instead of whiners
@blackshogun272
@blackshogun272 5 жыл бұрын
@@dlastkatipunero2185 Sith Empire after the Mandalorian Wars will always be the best one in my eyes 😎
@kylejacques8577
@kylejacques8577 5 жыл бұрын
@Richard Johnson they did, but they only studied Disney villainy
@casbot71
@casbot71 5 жыл бұрын
Palpatines original plan was much simpler. Just have the Endor battle group keep fighting and destroy the Rebel fleet there. And once confirmed that the Imperial ground forces have been slaughtered or captured do a orbital bombardment of the whole region. At the least you'll kill any Imperial prisoners, saving them from being I̶m̶p̶r̶e̶g̶n̶a̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶b̶y̶ ̶X̶e̶n̶o̶m̶o̶r̶p̶h̶s̶ eaten by killer Teddy bears. The core Imperial worlds are still completely under control, along with the Imperial fleet. They dominate a major part of the Galaxy including its economic might and nearly all of the developed regions. Retreat, consolidating and focusing your forces if necessary. But just do a Base Delta Zero of any prominent rebel planets with a large battle group from among your _over twenty three thousand ISD's_ currently left over. Starting with any that are important to infrastructure and logistics such as the Mon Calamari 🍤. A Taskforce led by a few hundred ISD's should take care of them, which is a much better use of inventory than blowing your own ships up, even from just a revenge standpoint. TL:DR Imperial headquarters in Corescant, the head of the bureaucracy hears that Palpatine and Vader are dead and opens the sealed envelope containing his will. In it he says Thrawn is now in charge and the Royal guard answer to him. He has the full authority of the Emperor. And here is a list of planets to get payback on. *Fleet officer:* [looking at the list] Tatooine? Why Tatooine? It's of no significant value, to either us or the Rebellion. *Imperial official:* [reading over his shoulder] What's that handwritten notation next to it … _sand!_ …What?
@aralornwolf3140
@aralornwolf3140 5 жыл бұрын
Yes... much simpler... since KK really destroyed the Lore/History/Logic of the Franchise to shoe horn in JJ's idea that the Empire is returning and the New Republic is impotent... Because he wanted to come back to the Rebels vs Empire theme... This theme is why I didn't like TFA... Starkiller Base destroyed the rest.
@blackshogun272
@blackshogun272 5 жыл бұрын
@@aralornwolf3140 Legends Continuity never even got a chance to be brought into live action settings (movies) and then Disney comes in with this rehash bullshit ! I can guarantee that half of those "bad" Legends stories reimagined into animated or live action films would blow the socks off of these casual fans. They never even gave the past a chance 😔
@ft1992
@ft1992 5 жыл бұрын
You should talk more about real life history more. I would watch it.
@paulgoodridge2269
@paulgoodridge2269 5 жыл бұрын
No just no
@paulgoodridge2269
@paulgoodridge2269 5 жыл бұрын
I already watch enough real world content
@guibin
@guibin 5 жыл бұрын
Generation History?
@autumn2ashes211
@autumn2ashes211 5 жыл бұрын
Not on this channel hopefully but yeah I’d watch.
@Starfleet8555
@Starfleet8555 5 жыл бұрын
I really think Palpatine would be a far more competent individual to lead the First Order. I hope he does that in the next film.
@user-Jay178
@user-Jay178 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe or the imperial remant
@TheCJUN
@TheCJUN 5 жыл бұрын
Thrawn?
@aliastheabnormal
@aliastheabnormal 5 жыл бұрын
Apparently Palpatine's spirit is nothing more than Kylo's copy of Mein Kamph. And the whole thing is just a red herring.
@jabbba4044
@jabbba4044 5 жыл бұрын
Hux also didnt look bad in Force awakens
@JeroenDoes
@JeroenDoes 5 жыл бұрын
IDK his plan to trap the rebels above endor was pretty dumb. He actually gave them the plans tot the schield generator....... He could have you know.. give them fake plans. Why on earth give your enemy a chance (however small it may be).
@Mystickneon
@Mystickneon 5 жыл бұрын
"...and with a little help from Allen, John McClane kicks ass!!"
@RoosterFloyd
@RoosterFloyd 5 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest flaw with the first order is it's lack of creativity. It seems like (if you don't want to get meta with it and just chalk it up to poor writing) they are just repeating the ideas and mistakes of the Empire. The raising Stormtroopers from birth and indoctrinating them since adolescence is a good idea though. It would be interesting to know how rare or common defecting is, Finn being a good example. I assume it's rare, considering Finn would have never had a chance of escape if the stars didn't align with Poe being there to help him.
@aralornwolf3140
@aralornwolf3140 5 жыл бұрын
Biggest Flaw is Writing, yes. The First Order Stormtroopers are essentially clones... who aren't related to one another. Finn defected because he was captured by the First Order as a young boy. Which also contradicts the Lore of the First Order... JJ and his writing staff weren't as smart as they think they are placing contradictions in his own work. :/
@RoosterFloyd
@RoosterFloyd 5 жыл бұрын
@@aralornwolf3140 I didn't know about the capture, did I just fucking done out during the movie or are they already milking the new shitty cannon with eu?
@raveshaw6161
@raveshaw6161 5 жыл бұрын
First Order officers like Commander Pyre, and FOSB-Agents are trained to recognize even the slightest form of malfunction in the conditioning of their Troops, and send them regulary to reconditioning. So yes it happens sometimes but mostly it is in the line of duty, and not so advanced in their stage of "malfunctioning" like Finn.
@aralornwolf3140
@aralornwolf3140 5 жыл бұрын
@@RoosterFloyd , Finn tells Rey he was kidnapped by the First Order at a young age... this ruins the continuity JJ set up with his Text Scrawl... JJ also ignored star wars lore multiple times in the movie... so you probably just didn't notice it.
@RoosterFloyd
@RoosterFloyd 5 жыл бұрын
@@aralornwolf3140 Honestly I had to drink to get through them, it was like reliving the prequels but without the awesomeness of Hayden Christensen (I really like the guy, he's a good actor, watch life in a house if you aren't sure.) And one of my favorite all time actors, the trainspotter himself, Ewan McGregor
@michaelramon2411
@michaelramon2411 5 жыл бұрын
I think Starkiller was meant to counter the Planetary Defense Fleet threat by being a weapon of such power that said fleets (or the civilian governments they answer to) would back down without a fight. The Supremacy functions in a similar capacity. Having lost both of those assets early on means that the FO will need to fight a lot more battles to gain control. If the entire galaxy fights back, they lose, which is why they went for their shock-and-awe strategy. For once, the Tarkin Doctrine actually makes sense in this context.
@Mega-Brick
@Mega-Brick 5 жыл бұрын
You mean the First Order is incompetent? Whaaaaaaaaaa- I had no idea! *Sarcasm*
@troo_6656
@troo_6656 5 жыл бұрын
@Mr Internet Guy we saw no action of new republic so we can't decide.
@gasmonkey1000
@gasmonkey1000 5 жыл бұрын
the virgin first order vs. *THE CHAD GALACTIC EMPIRE*
@ajaxthegreatest2191
@ajaxthegreatest2191 5 жыл бұрын
Would y'all ever consider a collaboration with *Eckhart's Ladder* ? He pretty much picks up anything y'all miss.
@operatorbutt4265
@operatorbutt4265 5 жыл бұрын
arthur jackson * you all
@ajaxthegreatest2191
@ajaxthegreatest2191 5 жыл бұрын
@@operatorbutt4265 feel better?
@operatorbutt4265
@operatorbutt4265 5 жыл бұрын
arthur jackson yes
@ajaxthegreatest2191
@ajaxthegreatest2191 5 жыл бұрын
@@operatorbutt4265 good, y'all have a goodnight.
@operatorbutt4265
@operatorbutt4265 5 жыл бұрын
arthur jackson *you
@mikeuchiha5972
@mikeuchiha5972 5 жыл бұрын
Man I’m glad I left/ got fired from the first order
@ElevenRats
@ElevenRats 5 жыл бұрын
Sadly, the only way out is death, inefficient
@jazzthedinosaur2183
@jazzthedinosaur2183 5 жыл бұрын
watch out first order. them roses will get you
@snitzledck2
@snitzledck2 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot #6: first order MUST follow bad guys lose good guys always wins law
@dwarvenmoray
@dwarvenmoray 5 жыл бұрын
Pelleaon's Imperial Remnant is much better.
@Bmbl5k
@Bmbl5k 5 жыл бұрын
Many KZbinrs describe how something in a fantasy universe can work from a lore perspective. That's all very exciting and I like watching videos about it, but as a sociology and philosophy student dealing with society and institutions, I have to say that this often has little to do with reality. In your video, you made empirical references to the real world and looked at how Star Wars society could work if it really existed. I have not seen anything like that before and I have to say that I really liked it. I do not know what the other fans are like, but I want to see more of it.
@KuDastardly
@KuDastardly 5 жыл бұрын
If Kylo Ren really is a serious liability, then it's all the more to keep him alive. It's like how the Allied special forces made sure Hitler remained alive as he was an incompetent military strategist.
@tutes0133
@tutes0133 5 жыл бұрын
For the Warcraft fans here. Just spotted a planet named "N'zoth", at 01.30 just left above the Deep Core at the galaxy map.
@Jfk2Mr
@Jfk2Mr 5 жыл бұрын
That's where the fun begins... Send survey ships, our charts of that region are quite outdated
@rascoehunter3608
@rascoehunter3608 5 жыл бұрын
I hope that future movies have a different enemy than just stormtroopers.
@coreythorne6936
@coreythorne6936 5 жыл бұрын
The Resistance needs an army. Start the clone production again.
@chengzhou8711
@chengzhou8711 5 жыл бұрын
Very risky
@wyattflee
@wyattflee 4 жыл бұрын
I like how the first order straight up wasn’t defeated in episode 9
@DraconianKindness
@DraconianKindness 5 жыл бұрын
I learn more about not just Star Wars but about everything from watching this channel than any other.
@karlsmith2570
@karlsmith2570 5 жыл бұрын
I personally can see The First Order going The way of The Galactic Empire at Kylo's hands just like The Galactic Empire fell when Darth Vader hurled the emperor down that shaft on the 2nd Death Star
@unums
@unums 3 жыл бұрын
I like the fact that only the Emperor Palpatine and Thrawn and only a few knowing about the extra-galactic Yuuzhan Vong while Palpatine does a Space Military Build-up is a great metaphor for how the United States Space Force is slowly building up our military to match the Galactic Federation haha
@pronghornllc2200
@pronghornllc2200 5 жыл бұрын
I can’t fall asleep without Generation Tech. Seriously thank you Allen.
@wheelyone8269
@wheelyone8269 5 жыл бұрын
Branching off from point 3, another drawback I possibly see is that any remains of a defeated defence force could simply leave and help another. If it repeats enough then you will have a group resembling the rebellion/resistance but the size and professionalism of an army with (possibly) a proper navy as well
@jamiewalsh3349
@jamiewalsh3349 5 жыл бұрын
There is a solution to resolve the number 1 issue, have Palpatine for Supreme Leader
@writingcuriosity
@writingcuriosity 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree with those points.
@thorshammer7883
@thorshammer7883 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do the Forerunners vs Warhammer 40k factions and time eras?
@AlsayidHaddosh
@AlsayidHaddosh 6 ай бұрын
9:00 "I wouldn't put this guy in charge of a lemonade stand" 💀 shows how unstable his short one year leadership was
@thorshammer7883
@thorshammer7883 5 жыл бұрын
How does UNSC vehicles like the Scorpion tank and Warthog compare to modern vehicles like the M1A2 Abrams and Oshkosh JLTV?
@FacepalmVideoss
@FacepalmVideoss 5 жыл бұрын
I think the Scorpion has quite more weak spots than the abrams, mainly due to the exposed machine gunner (which means there's no way to protect the tank from infantry if the gunner gets shot to pieces), and that huge window leading directly to the drivers face. In addition to that, the Abrams is quite fast, especially in comparison to the Scorpion. However, I'm fairly sure the Scorpion has better armor and a better gun due to it being from the future. Basically, if you want to avoid dying from a stray bullet, being overrun by infantry, or not being fast, the abrams is for you. In all other cases the scorpion is most likely the better option.
@thorshammer7883
@thorshammer7883 5 жыл бұрын
@@FacepalmVideoss The Scorpion shoots weaker shots then the Abrams.
@ocadioan
@ocadioan 5 жыл бұрын
3:06 Let me stop you right there. Unless the First Order found a replicator and an infinite energy device in the unknown regions, they still need both fuel and materials from elsewhere to sustain their fleet.
@vilzupuupaa4680
@vilzupuupaa4680 5 жыл бұрын
My theory: Reylo happens and hux becomes new supreme leader. Hux is unable to control such an empire and so called "old guard" (old imperial officers) sides with resistance. Every single planet mobilises against the first order.
@barackobama9668
@barackobama9668 5 жыл бұрын
vilzu puupää no reylo just no
@Jay-629
@Jay-629 5 жыл бұрын
Niem Numble pie I mean, Disney has a track record with going with the only important fans (the 3 people who identify as a trans-trans-dragon-cat hybrid who also are gender fluid, democratic-anarcho-communist-socialist.
@nobleman9393
@nobleman9393 5 жыл бұрын
6: They were written by Jar Jar Abrams and Ruin Johnson
@goufr3540
@goufr3540 5 жыл бұрын
Does not help that neither of them are remotely creative, especially since they copy the OT and not aware what continuity is.
@ihaverabeez
@ihaverabeez 5 жыл бұрын
Surprised you didn't use Resistance (cartoon) footage - love the real world history tie-ins.
@Jason-qi4ie
@Jason-qi4ie 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome content as always. I gotta say i agree with you on basically everything. I saw another video that said Palpatine had possessed Snoke, but i really hope that is not the case , simply because i don't think Palpatine would have been as incompetent as Snoke.. Just my opinion of course .
@Woodsy2575
@Woodsy2575 5 жыл бұрын
The real life parallels were really helpful for getting the point across
@jedi69outcast
@jedi69outcast 5 жыл бұрын
No Gravity Well Projectors on a Outer Rim Equipped Super Duper Star Destroyer that otherwise is a totally self sufficient battleship/ staging platform / space dock 🤪
@spartanhawk7637
@spartanhawk7637 5 жыл бұрын
Here's one, *LITERALLY EVERYTHING.*
@niclon8699
@niclon8699 Жыл бұрын
I think it would be interesting to see a first order show which focuses on the troubles and challenges they needed to overcome to form the first order
@zachchartier570
@zachchartier570 5 жыл бұрын
Would you guys ever consider doing a rundown on the Yuuzhan Vong War like you're currently doing with the Clone Wars? You could probably fit it into only one season if you just hit the major flashpoints like Fondor and Yuuzhantar.
@Shadx27
@Shadx27 5 жыл бұрын
I have a secret hope that the 'loyal' subjugate of the Chiss Ascendancy take advantage of getting the allies from the outer rim and whatever Ray does. In the end, the first Imperial Republic is formed for the galaxy. Thrawn, Ezra, Maarek Stele, Ashoka, and few others can appear with that. Some of those would be old though.
@Mr_Curtis_Kelley
@Mr_Curtis_Kelley 4 жыл бұрын
“Alot of pissed off disappointments I mean rose ticos”
@jimtalbott9535
@jimtalbott9535 5 жыл бұрын
To the "Military First" part of this discussion - Read "Zwietes Buch", Hitlers "Sequel" to Mein Kampf - even he had a plan to wind down the military economy and create a decent (though not at all free) environment for regular Germans.
@barrybend7189
@barrybend7189 5 жыл бұрын
Best mech based armies in sci-fi my suggestion is the UN Spacey from SDF Macross.
@jeansalomon8225
@jeansalomon8225 5 жыл бұрын
0:05 Oh hi Allen
@Potrimpo
@Potrimpo 5 жыл бұрын
If we heard Palpatine laugh in the Rise of Skywalker trailer, I can only guess the first order was only there to cause instability like the civil unrest in the Star Wars prequels that Palpatine started. The first order devastated the galaxy, civil unrest erupts, then Palpatine swoops in to restore order with tonnes of empty promises using the force's ability to influence the weak minded -- especially taking out certain leaders of organizations and putting his people in power. But also like a tonne of plans, something went wrong that wrecks the plan like the first order taking into conquest rather than causing instability. Think Pizzagate, or the rise and fall of Stephen Harper up here in Canada. Or even the rise of the UCP in Alberta -- but they're run by a bunch of baffoons.
@alanpartridge461
@alanpartridge461 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Allen, where do you get the pictures from that you use, are they from books?
@patchworkfellow
@patchworkfellow 4 жыл бұрын
6:33 Of course he wouldn’t blow up the Senate, Palpy-McRaisinFace ain’t suicidal!
@nobody4248
@nobody4248 5 жыл бұрын
What if Anakin failled to find Ventress during the Wrong Jedi arc?
@DMSProduktions
@DMSProduktions 5 жыл бұрын
It's STAR WARS, the bad guys NEVER win in the end!
@mattd2026
@mattd2026 5 жыл бұрын
God forbid the first order creates anymore angry rose ticos...
@KommanderHooyah
@KommanderHooyah 5 жыл бұрын
I almost forgot if I was watching Generation Tech or Off the Great Wall for a moment.
@greeners021
@greeners021 5 жыл бұрын
High friends welcome back to generation tech
@user-Jay178
@user-Jay178 5 жыл бұрын
Great video these guys do have a lot of flaws into it and do they control the galaxy already?
@Zarcondeegrissom
@Zarcondeegrissom 5 жыл бұрын
according to the crawl at the beginning of TLJ, they did control the galaxy already. The resistance is down to a few dozen refugees on a single cargo ship at the end of TLJ, so game over.
@orbaitv5991
@orbaitv5991 5 жыл бұрын
@@Zarcondeegrissom Not really. There are corporations, planetery fleets, the huts, other organisations that can challenge them or make chaos. Also the first order controlling the core words doesn't make the galaxy conquered.
@Zarcondeegrissom
@Zarcondeegrissom 5 жыл бұрын
as much as I would agree given the lack of First-order victories shown on screen (Kylo caused more damage to first order equipment than foes did, lol), that is not what the opening crawl at the beginning of TLJ said. "The first order reigns", the opening line at that, they are mopping up at this point, the war is already won and at least a few worlds have capitulated to the first order by the opening of TLJ (I don't think it would be worded as it is otherwise). Episode VIII THE LEST JEDI The first order reigns. Having decimated the peaceful Republic, Supreme Leader Snoke now deploys his merciless legions to seize military control of the galaxy. Only General Leia Organa's band of RESISTANCE fighters stand against the rising tyranny, certain that Jedi Master Luke Skywalker will return and restore a spark of hope to the fight. But the Resistance has been exposed. As the First Order speeds toward the rebel base, the brave heroes mount a desperate escape.... note, that reads "speeds toward 'The' rebel base", 'base' instead of 'bases', and "the rebel base" as in singular, there is only one of them the rebels are at. Implying that all the rebel ships shown at the opening scene of the movie, is all there is of the rebels/resistance. I'm with you that there should be more resisting the First Order at this point, however, that is not what the crawl sais.
@Zarcondeegrissom
@Zarcondeegrissom 5 жыл бұрын
Gamer King, it would be interesting to find out, if the Chiss Ascendancy in the unknown regions is also independent, or part of the first order by TLJ. by def, 'the galaxy' would imply all of it, and it isn't clear how much the republic was. Only General Leia Organa's band of RESISTANCE fighters stand against the rising tyranny would seem to indicate, that they are the only ones resisting the first order by the opening of TLJ. so that would also imply the rest have either been conquered by, or allied with the first order. so yeah, 'F' for respects, GG, Game over. at least the Dunkirk evacuation went a tad better, more people got out.
@jkb2016
@jkb2016 5 жыл бұрын
Yup. Totally would love to see Kylo fuck everything up in episode 9. Makes as much sense as the previous two films.
@cmtat1976
@cmtat1976 5 жыл бұрын
I have had generation tech on autoplay all morning. For a good day it makes.
@andyb1653
@andyb1653 5 жыл бұрын
I'd be pissed if I was Rose Tiko as well. Rian Johnson wasted her character. I want to see Kelly Marie Tran, Laura Dern and Gwendolyn Christie kick the crap out of Rian Johnson. He wasted all of these actesses time (and ours). Not to mention, he wasted Carrie Fisher's final performance and permanently damaged the Star Wars franchise and fandom.
@XizEA
@XizEA 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot the #1 reason - bad Disney writing and SW plot armor
@lordwunglerbeckett
@lordwunglerbeckett 5 жыл бұрын
1. Hux didn't kill Ben Swolo when he had a chance to
@sheevone4359
@sheevone4359 5 жыл бұрын
He wanted to but then he saw that Kylo moved.
@frostyoreo8657
@frostyoreo8657 5 жыл бұрын
He was too slow but what if in ep 9 kylo losses to rey is injured then hux with 8 stormtroopers kill kylo.
@frostyoreo8657
@frostyoreo8657 5 жыл бұрын
@Tron How do you defend against a hyperspeed ship heading to your ship? Also Hux was in command of the officer in the dreadnot canady so canady was not stupid it was hux. Hux destroyed the republic with starkiller base also his new troops the Fo troops are better than the imperial ones in both space and ground combat. All I have to say is Hux has the reasorces and troops to destroy the resistance but dosent know how to as he is inexperienced that goes to all First Order officers. As much as i love Hux( no im not gay) he has made many mistakes that cost him alot of huge ships ans lossesand the first order will fall with all the inexperienced officers.
@lordwunglerbeckett
@lordwunglerbeckett 5 жыл бұрын
Excuse me good sir, even with him being a general he was a mere punching bag of Snoke and Kylo whilst being the most rational of them all, and if a GENERAL is in command of a FLEET, first of all either First Order had some serious personnel shortage or snoke was just that stupid, and second of all don't expect him to be great at commanding ships
@lordwunglerbeckett
@lordwunglerbeckett 5 жыл бұрын
So if he could get to being the mew supreme leader, he'd be able to actually do what he's good at without any bath robe wearing elderies nor vader wannabes constantly throwing him aganist the floor for trying to execute his strategies
@titanic_monarch796
@titanic_monarch796 5 жыл бұрын
Heres an idea, what if the separatist negotiations went through successfully without anyone getting blown up?
@Bobby90
@Bobby90 5 жыл бұрын
I watch this and only realize how poorly the squeal trilogy was planned out. Or how that poor plan was thrown out midway through.
@ExcaliburHeavyBattlecruiser
@ExcaliburHeavyBattlecruiser 5 жыл бұрын
That thumbnail looks sick man!
@JustAGuyWhoLikesStuff.
@JustAGuyWhoLikesStuff. 4 жыл бұрын
The only competence in the First Order was the Old Guard. Exhibit A: Just the whole battle of D'Qar. I rest my case.
@ameliorategibberish8027
@ameliorategibberish8027 5 жыл бұрын
Hands down favorite channel.
@misterangel8486
@misterangel8486 5 жыл бұрын
Perfect. Sharply observed. Keep up the good job👍👌
@SorenDoesStuff
@SorenDoesStuff 5 жыл бұрын
1:08 palpatine is in daft punk!?
@optimalhazza
@optimalhazza 5 жыл бұрын
Damn, I was hoping someone in the comments would of put 'Because it's being led by Kylo Ren' five times, also the First Order probably deserves to vulnerable, just nearly everything about it seems problematic.
@MaxHDAvenger
@MaxHDAvenger 5 жыл бұрын
Snoke forgot that Sith Lords will backstab you if the opportunity shows up.
@jkb2016
@jkb2016 5 жыл бұрын
Be careful with predictions. Life in the galaxy can be rianjohnsoned at any time.
@Controlled_Insanity_003
@Controlled_Insanity_003 5 жыл бұрын
Do a new republic version of this episode
@woodspringstcg
@woodspringstcg 5 жыл бұрын
So glad I found this channel. 👍
@zacharycrater2588
@zacharycrater2588 5 жыл бұрын
I thought they were supposed to be parody characters of the real empire. I didn't know they were supposed to be serious. Oh wow.
@VulpisFoxfire
@VulpisFoxfire 5 жыл бұрын
I might note that Palpatine left the Senate in place right up until ANH.
@ziplocktheimpostor1402
@ziplocktheimpostor1402 5 жыл бұрын
They never took position in the higher grounds🤣 Nine times they lost and these are in fact the 5 real reasons... 1.never learned the higher ground tactic 2.never studied higher ground advantages 3.never actively used higher ground 4.they only used higher ground for their evil speeches 5.they underestimated obi wan's true knowledge of the higher ground's force power
@jakegearhart
@jakegearhart 5 жыл бұрын
1. They're lead by idiots. 2. They haven't learned from the Empire's TWO major defeats at the hands of small fighters. If the First Order had any competence, they wouldn't've made a third Death Star, they would've just made a massive Tie-Bomber production facility and overwhelmed the new Republic worlds with tons and tons of bombs. If all they had was millions of tiny ships with hyperdrives, the resistance could do nothing to stop them.
@frostyoreo8657
@frostyoreo8657 5 жыл бұрын
For officers and tie fighter pilots trained from birth they still lose the rebels.
@kesselrunner
@kesselrunner 5 жыл бұрын
If the FO isn't falling apart at the seams in EP9, my suspension of disbelief will be strained beyond its limits.
@piecharb.1343
@piecharb.1343 5 жыл бұрын
Nothing like the 1st Galactic Iraqis Republic... I swear he has some skills relating star wars to Iraq
@alexrabochii7655
@alexrabochii7655 4 жыл бұрын
7th: Their sponsor isn’t raid shadow legends
@knivesmillions2913
@knivesmillions2913 5 жыл бұрын
This is why I prefer the prequels better Characters, planets, and lastly better factions.
@williamnelson5549
@williamnelson5549 5 жыл бұрын
I thought Star Killer was their base previously
@robertagu5533
@robertagu5533 5 жыл бұрын
Since its FO, I'm assuming, also, since help was requested across the Galaxy. It involves some sorta climatic battle. Cuz most Star Wars movies gotta Star Wars. BUT the FO is remarkably small when you think of it. A good sized and powerful fleet, since their mega paper football from hell was destroyed a movie or 2 ago, should be able to destroy or catch vast majority of them all if it came to it. No way least some of that HUGE powerful armada at the Jakku battle was, or could all be at the destroy Hosian system or decommissioned AND totally dismantled entirely. We're talking a Rebellion fleet big enough an powerful enough to take on pretty ALL the remaining Imperial Star Destroyers backed by, we know for sure SEVERAL Super SDs which I think if remembering right is how the Republic came to possess some of those. So even a relatively SMALL number of those should be a huge or considerable threat even outright out gun whats basically an Imperial Remanent with basically no super weapons left really since Admiral SJW kamikazed it.
@mitchellhayward6492
@mitchellhayward6492 5 жыл бұрын
The worlds they strip-mine don't necessarily have to be habitable.
@lugi5804
@lugi5804 5 жыл бұрын
Me: Lets hope they dont watch this Me: Oh they di- *FiRsT oRdEr HaS jOiNeD tHe ChAt* Me RUUUN!!! Me: wait whats that light? Oh god *Everybody left the chat*
@DerAnanasKing
@DerAnanasKing 5 жыл бұрын
is anything what you say even backed by official courses? because definetly non of it was in the movies. I mean, maybe there is extendet material on it, I just don´t know about it and so far I think you are just fanfictioning all this stuff. some of it seem to be outrigt contradicting to what was established in the mive. like you say that many planets would feature a planetary defence fource, yet the first Paragraph of the intro tex say "the first Order rules supreme" I am tempted to belive all of this is just wishful thinking and fanfiction.
@Red-Faction
@Red-Faction 5 жыл бұрын
From what I know of disney cannon they leave most of the world-building to their books and other secondary material. If they are pulling from there then they probably have the best source of information, because who the hell could tell what's going on in the galaxy by watching the movies up to this point. That said, I wouldn't count on episode 9 to keep their story straight.
@lynchkid003
@lynchkid003 5 жыл бұрын
Can someone PLEASE tell me where he's getting this awesome Music? I can't find any reference
@christo-gj1qk
@christo-gj1qk 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly can't see how the resistance will be able to destroy the first order, they are so small and militarily inferior.
@sorcererberoll4641
@sorcererberoll4641 5 жыл бұрын
They didn’t listen to the old guard
@madrabbit9007
@madrabbit9007 5 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas...still.
@DerAnanasKing
@DerAnanasKing 5 жыл бұрын
I would say, the future of the new trilogy is uncertain. with practically everything fucked up and the last jedi completely fucking the lore, it is uncertain how JJ will salvage any of it.
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