The Pantoran Dilemma | CW HISTORY S1E19

[@viperson9818]

Rex in this episode, really wished he was in command. He was struggling to protect his dumb orders

[@brianainsworth9497]

It was moments like this that I wish rex was promoted to commander instead of captain

[@MarkTosto]

My sons and I enjoy rewatching and calling out "kid's show" everytime something horrific transpires. The pentultimate is during the Umbara arc. When Rex walks up to a screaming wounded tank driver and shoits him in the face. (Offscreen of course)

[@lordkronos5470]

Why is no one taking about how cute Senator Chuchi is?

[@2Potates]

I know right?

[@dubspool]

_Possibly_

[@victorbruant389]

@@dubspool Then you must know Master Sifo-Dyas.

[@really296]

Because shes a flexible lady and humanity first.

[@wommyu]

You just atarted another rule 34

[@daapple6692]

Alan - hi welcome back to generation films Me - wait a minute

[@mattd2026]

9:24 rex just lifted a limp man over his shoulder with one arm!!!

[@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954]

If you stop and think of this from the Talz perspective (I know, I know - that is Heresy and the Inquisition has been notified, but bear with me before I am dragged away to the Excruciators in neural shackles), then this whole situation is very confusing. The Pantarens and the human Jedi and Clones all use similar forms of technology and all share nearly identical basic body plans, certainly compared to the Talz themselves. The only obvious visual difference is the Pantarens' blue skin tone, and the Talz have no way of knowing if that is just a different ethnicity of the same species, and depending upon the wavelengths of light that the Talz see in (or whether or not their species ever evolved equivalents of rods and cones in their eyes), they may not even be able to perceive these colour differences at all. If either of these scenarios is the case, then from the Talz' perspective the Jedi who initially negotiated with them either acted in bad faith or were overruled, and the Jedi and Clones are just part of the same military force as the Pantarens. The Talz aggression is not surprising in such a circumstance. Chairman Cho's behaviour made conflict all but inevitable, and the Talz didn't realise they were actually attacking republic troops and not the Chairman's own forces. This being the Republic era of Star Wars, such misunderstandings can be forgiven and smoothed out, at least until the Empire turns up and exterminates the Talz.

[@casbot71]

Unfortunately due to a dyslexic navigator they end up in the system of *Pantera* and are instead subjected to a _vulgar display of power._

[@carbonitegamorrean8368]

awesome

[@NerdWithGuns]

I've never been this early before... So I have a question but there's always been thousands of comments before I'd be able to ask it. In the Clone Wars movie, they initially wanted to include ARC trooper Alpha from the republic comics, but figured the main cast would be too much of an alliteration (Anakin, Ahsoka, Artoo, Assajj Ventress, and Alpha) so Rex was created with virtually identical armor to Alpha but with the addition of Jaig Eyes on the helmet. What would the clone wars have been like if Alpha was Anakin's clone officer instead of Rex?

[@giantslayer9335]

Steve Wiswell Rex and Alpha aren't really that different. Both wear blue armor and are complete badasses

[@alphaarc-2836]

Alpha-17 is an Alpha Class ARC Trooper which is modified tobe more like Jango Fett and is a lot more independent/rebellious so we could expect him to act more rudely when compared to Rex which is just a normal clone who was taught and trained harder to be more independent.

[@CJ-442]

Probably wouldn’t have too different. Rex was created to be a more simple version of Alpha. Rex can still be a badass super-soldier when the need arises, with unique armor, and an independent personality. But without the extra lore of the original concept of ARC troopers.

[@imposterblockade1826]

I still like to think that alpha 17 is canon but he's apart of some super secret clone team or project like maybe their in pods that freeze their age so they could possibly wake up 1000 years after the clone wars

[@blumylk1389]

The War ends Republic: lets glass those teddy bears

[@turkeybeard2010]

If I remember correctly I think the droids attacked the snow alians first, and they retaliated by attacking both Separatist and Republic outputs not knowing who was who.

[@sennescholten7278]

that is exactly what happend. there is a video about the unluckiest clone betaloin that betalion was in that base

[@nikoclesceri2267]

Custard also lost because the native Americans had repeating rifles while he had single shot carbines.

[@hi-to6sk]

And because he was seriously outnumbered.

[@johnycoho7830]

Karaz Feral-Fang well any other time that would have worked. Plus he already sent a skirmish force to attack the other side of the camp as a diversion. So it probably didn't look like suicede until it was to late.

[@Rosscarrock]

It’s Custer, custard is a dessert

[@jlokison]

He also decided to leave his artillery and gatling guns behind because they slowed him down. Custer made a lot of mistakes before that battle.

[@justchilling704]

@@jlokison I''m kinda glad he lost wasn't a nice guy don't mean that in a beta way.

[@alexstoyo7850]

When I saw this episode I always wondered how the Tal would react to seeing a Wookie.

[@alexstoyo7850]

The Tal look a bit like a Wookie.

[@ambiguumspectatoremespecta9803]

11:10 No they don't; the Talz are clearly a sapient species.

[@idealaccent5110]

Yh idk why tf hes so anti alien, humans are pretty boring

[@DoodleMan149]

I can't believe someone gave this a thumbs down. I remember watching this episode on TV and this gave me a nice nostalgia boost. Thanks GenTech!!

[@victorbruant389]

i love the background music, reminds me of the music I imagined hearing during detox :-)

[@CloneScavengerVulpin8389]

The talz are really an honorable species they were just protecting themselves.

[@theurbangoose1225]

Thank god that Pantoran Dilemma had no sand

[@LostEmpireProduction]

For sure one of the best clone wars episodes

[@seanssafetykorner]

I'm sure your not going to see this Allan but the clone wars is a Generation Tech series not your Generation Films.

[@skytheannur6168]

The Chairman's actions prove he was a fool, in all honestly his nature would have gotten many killed. Were he in command of a Clone Battalion and facing the separatists he would have most likely gotten himself and his clones slaughtered. The engagement with the Talz is a prime example, and in all honesty the man should NOT have been in charge of anything. Not even the Janitorial closet.

[@CloneScavengerVulpin8389]

"Not even a janitors closet." 🤣

[@gb2062]

It bothers me how only one pocket on his shirt is buttoned....

[@washington_pc3306]

Isn’t this alien species the same of one of the alien Jedi that protected palpatine and died from grievous when palpatine was abducted?

[@intzbk1]

From the cartoon? I think so. Too bad that's not canon anymore. Mace Windu f&^ked up Grievous and caused his wheezing by crushing his lungs. Now they changed that and it sucks.

[@ShaneWalta]

I'm surprised that you didn't mention the Talz that made it to Mos Eisley

[@calvinmatthews1527]

Wonder what happened to the Talz after Episode III

[@RayMKlll]

Well, we see one in Episode IV, that should give you an idea.

[@mixmaster3028]

Look up what happened to them in the Eu.

[@michaelhalbert9264]

Your "knowledge"makes me almost wish Star Wars was real, your good at what you do.

[@TyrinsClips]

Yes, it's great to be here at Generation Films.

[@Zathaghil]

Isn't it nice here on the Intranet?

[@mattd2026]

I wonder how the Null Arcs would've handled the Pantoran leader in this situation...

[@jlokison]

Accidentally catch him in a crossfire with the enemy.

[@mattd2026]

@@jlokison oh no! How could a null arc make such a rookie mistake ;)

[@robertmills6497]

The Nulls would have just made him disappear (Unless of course Kal Skirata saw a profit in keeping him alive ;) )

[@rc59191]

Pretty sure they'd of decked the Chairman in the face lol.

[@TheBlueBaron]

I rather liked the old canon version of the story line better, being that in it the Talz were actually native to Alzoc III and their settlement here was itself a colony. That makes for a much more interesting and complex story line about who is trespassing on whose land.

[@TheNoseOfSauron7675]

got 'a say, I never get tired of watching Rex tossing chare man Cho over the front of his speeder like a deer.

[@mcgarbageproductions588]

OMG GENERATION TECH KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!

[@justinsmith9006]

All can serve the god Emperor and if the xeno chose to willingly can they truly be savage? i think not. the Emperor first.

[@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954]

If the Xenos recognises their abominable character, and chooses to serve the Emperor for as long as He has need of them, and then to end their wretched existence for the good of humanity, then no loyal servant of the Emperor should gainsay them. Should they be lucky, they will die honourably in combat fighting for humanity. Even the Alien can find redemption for the sin of their birth in a glorious death for the Emperor. And people say the Imperium isn't egalitarian... ;-)

[@justinsmith9006]

@@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954 as long as they know that man is rightfully in command then as the mutant finds purpose so to can the xeno and as long they serve the Emperor they will know peace, the tau had the right idea but the greater good IS the Emperor and all can gather under his banner. The Emperor protects.

[@sadturtle540]

Phase 1 clone winter armor is my second favorite clone armor after the armor used at the battle of Kaseek especially the clone scout armor

[@GALAXIE67]

This was another Awesome episode! Great review/video!! 👍☯️👍

[@stevedoggart2805]

No geraffes were harmed in the making of this film.

[@porckchopz5680]

I bet the senator got that nice Coo-chie *SLAPS KNEE*

[@STbattlefront]

Every xeno has a use for humanity. I rather not destroy them all, but make them feel welcome and have them work for us. By doing so we have new cheep labor force, their technology improve are technology. Then do it again and again until all xeno life work for humanity.

[@thefreshestman9438]

Britain looking at any country be like

[@gabrielm.942]

Quick question how did they kill the droids? With Spears? And how did they make Spears? I didn’t see any trees

[@CORALLLLLLLLL]

you know, Senator Chuchi didn't even react when the Chairmen died

[@toonbartholome479]

There is a Talz in mos eisley in a new hope. He must be sweating a lot

[@dreadwing01]

Due to the politics in this episode of clone wars it annoyed me, I enjoy how you break things down the good bad and ugly. I can’t wait for season 2.

[@gregorygray2403]

I love what you shoveling miss a Allen I love what you're shoveling keep a smile on that

[@jordanasiegel2099]

Your videos are wonderful and fun. This series got me to finally watch the clone wars. It's great Thanks! I've been wondering. What did the Jedi plan to do with the clone army after the war? What do you think they would do? I've seen a comic page where a Jedi Master says the Jedi will teach the clones peace in peace time. I wonder what that means. Teach them how to live like people or how to police the galaxy like Jedi did?

[@jonahstirbis3361]

The tals were attacked by the droids and the clones got caught in the middle of it!

[@16merrick]

I really like this series, but if there are ever breaks in the series, I want another star wars species video

[@rickyt11]

Thank you Allen.

[@SimonCarl93]

Something I have always wondered: IF they declare it an internal matter what right do they have to the GRA/GAR (Grand Army of the Republic)? They are REPUBLIC troops! If it’s a internal matter should they not be forbidden to use Republic property?

[@darthderp8066]

The winter Wookiee’s

[@DrGreen-ze2sk]

Yes but what about the droid attack on the Wookiees?

[@palpatine6424]

The chairman was on death sticks if he thought that battle would be a win

[@mineman2002]

Generation tech > generation films

[@karlnemo8658]

A Talz was seen in the legendary Tatooine Bar Scene of _A New Hope._ Not to mention one was a Jedi in the animated Clone Wars series. Yet the impression was given in this episode that the Talz were recently discovered and very technologically primitive society. Non-canon! _Heresy!_ (LOL I really don't give a frak, I just have an eye for detail.)

[@terrified057t4]

I still want to know the boys from the Gild base, love the armor design. simple and never mentioned again :(

[@Armand-ue7om]

Am I mistaken or during the Empire era these creatures managed to gain space travel technology? I think I saw one in the Cantina in the New Hope movie. or it would be more reasonable that one of them managed to get a ride on a smuggler or trader....

[@iceturtle-nb6rc]

It’s the Battle of Little Bighorn, not little horn

[@katsarelas1947]

Wait…pantora was the moon of the ice planet? Huh. Wonder how a planet is frozen but it’s moon presumably the same distance from its star is temperate? …or how 2 earth density similar planets could be in any situation where one could be a moon of the other. Orbiting a central point, sure. But one orbiting the other?

[@fatpandatouge]

Calling Tal’s ‘spear chuckers’ was a pretty damn poor choice of words.

[@Rufus7092]

Can't wait for S 2

[@DaleESkywalker]

I really liked this episode. Now, I forgot which one I was on.

[@jawyoga]

I know that Stars Wars The Old Republic isn’t canon but the Talz show up there a ton as allies if not outright members of the Republic. It seems strange that in the Clone Wars series they are treated as if they are a new species never before encountered by the Republic.

[@RiGuy]

You said G... Films by the way

[@Aaron-fb6mb]

GENERATION WHO

[@MarkTosto]

You broke out the "S" word! LOL

[@KuDastardly]

It got me thinking. The One-Day War, took place in the early era of the Clone Wsrs, right? Also wahat is the typical lifespan of a Talz? Reason I'm asking because in the cartoon series depicting the Batyle of Coruscant, we see a Jedi Talz protecting Palpatine from abduction. Also, the very first Star Wars movie debute a Talz species just chilling out in Mos Eisley.

[@channelreviews4485]

He said generation flims

[@patrickwentzell4638]

Bikes are cool in fact them hover speeder Bikes are great for racing in competition.

[@timothylam1043]

Ironic, For a planet called Orto Plutonia, the Talz living on there does not have much Oppo-tunity-nia

[@scotthedrick5736]

Was that tension palpable or Palpatine?

[@solaris2956]

I hope there is a season 2 planned in the future

[@quinn5699]

Me talking to a talz Talz: Look me in the Eyes Me: Which ones, you have 4 Eyes Talz: *Shoots Me*

[@magallanthepenguin9132]

no blood :C

[@harryobriensmith40]

Why am I still awake? My parents ask me. "We need to stop the Dolphins" i scream as CWH Season 1 closes

[@social3ngin33rin]

Who found all the language data and translations for C3PO?

[@Erreul]

Allen... Where the fuck on this ice waste do you see a wheel working properly?

[@noneedtoknow07]

So if clone armor can protect the user in the vacuum of space, why do they need cold weather gear?

[@captaindinoplayz5702]

You said here in generation film

[@alluringming]

So Spears and spikes can easily penetrate clone trooper armor? Does that slug through armors can do the same? I remember some star wars legend comics showing storm troopers killed. Also weren't the talz native to the moon as well?

[@heathward8826]

I LOVE YOU ALLEN!!!😚

[@karrde5566]

im prob gonna be banned from chat by bin but here i go i think riyo tuchy is a little attractive :D

[@doctorlunarous5747]

A R rated spinoff into anything would be interesting.

[@ryantormey7277]

Don't we see the Tulls throughout the movies? Wasnt there a jedi that looked like a tull? They cant be a total primitive species?

[@washington_pc3306]

Ryan Tormey yea he protected palpatine I think?

[@Bluesonofman]

How did the Talz go from living on several ice worlds and understanding advance tech to being a backwater race on one world? 3000 years earlier they had forces on Hoth! And I dont want to hear you say "because of the 2000 years of darkness". I want a real answer dammit.

[@RayMKlll]

I actually like the Talz, despite their proboscis like mouth-tube things on their chins...

[@Bluesonofman]

Custard Died because two of the 3 squads under his command did not come to help him against his orders.

[@thestarwarsgamer3258]

Hello there

[@wizardpig02]

General Kenobi...

[@thestarwarsgamer3258]

Wizardpig02 _ you are a bold one

[@sennescholten7278]

when will s2 start

[@Ostentatiousnessness]

The whole Pantoran/ Talz conflict was meant to reflect on the whole situation in South Africa and the apartheid

[@caiminsue-tang2843]

wow, usually i love your videos but i feel like you missed the point of this episode. this is a twist on the british and the zulu and the conflict between an indigenous people and technologically advanced people. Its about how it is better to be accepting of other peoples and to not be racist or look down on people. the pandorans even have south african accents. the tull are not the primal animals you say they are, and it really rubbed me the wrong way to hear you talk down to them as a people just because of technological inferiority. they are suppose to be an intelligent but uncontacted species. you can even see one in the canteena scene in a new hope mixing with everyone else which shows they are an intellegent species.

[@Verboten_Joey]

Technological power is a superficial measure of a civilization. Our ability to peacefully co exist with neighbors, to not seek to impose our will on others, that is the marker of a civilized people. In this instance making the Pantoran Chancellor the savage invader and the Talz defenders.

[@steampunkmonkeyproductions5792]

his xeno hate is a joke

[@grandcato3612]

soooo the enemy of my enemy dies last

[@raijyn2452]

So you consider the talz your enemies?

[@tylerr381]

you said gen. films

[@Daimon-X]

When in doubt. EXTERMINATUS...

[@rkneegordon6316]

Basically don’t pick a fight with a tribe of snow Wookies.

[@robertagu5533]

I'm sure in universe, in that "real life" the Clone Wars was as M rated as any other war. It's just the evil that is Disney dilluding it

[@shavy7734]

It's star the clone wars wars, damn it can't Disney get anything right?

[@toonbartholome479]

Generation films...

[@catsaresharp5781]

Exterminotus Purge the xenos

[@imoncall1378]

It’s ya boi

[@2Potates]

I'm going to be honnest, the humanity first gag is getting realy old.

[@staceymcconnell1827]

Chan man is a Men man

[@mikealpha2611]

What is with the star wars and entire planets being represented by teenage girls??

[@thomasall8336]

Am i watching generation films?