Great test and thank you so much for saying that in person, the 3000 is so much quieter than the 3200. That is exactly what I wanted to know.
@Asidebar Жыл бұрын
bigger and harder to move around
@swsuwaveАй бұрын
I just changed the battery in my 3000i and I love the quietness of that machine. I also have a victron 12v/3000va inverter with a 4000Ah lifepo4 CALB battery and use that for the ultimate quiet system. I really appreciate the video here, might I suggest setting the cooktop to 9 or 8 so that you can find a power load that both gensets can run then compare the noise given a fixed load. Thanks for taking the time to put these through their paces.
@leanit5756 Жыл бұрын
With a 50% bigger engine and lower compression, my hunch is the bigger loafing generator may outlast the smaller harder working generator by a fair margin if they are seeing higher draws and long run times. Being EFI though, the smaller may have considerable advantage at higher altitude and when changing altitude regularly.
@stephenajones443810 ай бұрын
I've had my EU3000i from Sea Level to 6ooo' and it ran like a champ. I actually prefer my EU3000i to my EU 2200i it just takes up more real estate.
@leanit575610 ай бұрын
@@stephenajones4438 Good to hear. I have a 3000 too, but have only run it near sea level.
@rainkingatx Жыл бұрын
Great video! Got right to the content without a lot of fluff. MICROWAVEs are a generators worst enemy. We turn off the AC when we use it. It’s all about power management.
@GeneratorReviews Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jim👍🏾
@singuyenvan790 Жыл бұрын
This is just what is needed for partial rv backup. Operates the ac and stuff perfectly. kzbin.infoUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y is quieter than my rv generator. Only suggestion is that it needs a fuel shutoff valve. So it is easier to store.
@scottmichel9582 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison brother! Always doing it right my friend.
@Rockrewls Жыл бұрын
Hey Gavin good video, something to consider is that many people do not have an electric stove usually they are propane, you may want to stick with the a/c's, the microwave, and fridge, and only use the stove when additional load is needed for larger gensets. Also the advantage is you can run the electric stove from 1-10 to ramp load as needed.
@GeneratorReviews Жыл бұрын
I know buddy I was just trying to get max amps output
@Rockrewls Жыл бұрын
@@GeneratorReviewsHey no problem It was a suggestion on future genset testing , its all good :)
@Asidebar Жыл бұрын
I'm sure he would not use all those at same time. He was doing a test
@Rockrewls Жыл бұрын
@@Asidebar Did you even read what I said??? All I suggested was changing the order of use of the items in the RV. And btw I use the fridge, a/c, and micro at the same time and probably many others may as well if the genset is large enough.
@James-oh1wp Жыл бұрын
@@Rockrewls Like AA said it was a TEST he was doing to compare both units
@atburke6258 Жыл бұрын
It might not be the difference in engine power but where the shut off setting is set by Honda to protect the internal electronics. A T Burke
@joebrown9621 Жыл бұрын
i bet its this newer inverter is just more efficient plus might have some bigger capacitors that allows it to squeeze more juice from this smaller engine
@LemonySnicket-EUC Жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking. Besides that, they both overloaded. Who cares if one carries the load for 20 more seconds than the other? Big deal.
@KuntalGhosh Жыл бұрын
Make a fuel consumption difference video for these two units at constant load of 500w ,1kw , 2kw , 2.5kw & full rated. With eco throttle on. Fuel efficiency with the fuel injected model should be lot better at low load conditions.
@GeneratorReviews Жыл бұрын
I can do that 👍🏾
@xavierneckor8918 Жыл бұрын
@@GeneratorReviews Please include no load consumption as well. It would be great to see comparison to see fuel consumption comparison at different load levels between inverter generator and regular generator of the same power capacity.
@Tom-In-Ga Жыл бұрын
Great video, Gavin! They both have their pluses. For me, the 3200 is best. Mainly for the weight. Now I know Honda quality is great but the price is crazy on any of them. If my now 4 year old Westinghouse ever dies, I'll consider a Honda long and hard. As good as my Westy is running, it may be a while.
@berettaguy7445 Жыл бұрын
For a lot of guys, pride of ownership is important; in other words, owning quality gear matters. That's why I own two EU2200's. My brother is a bargain hunter, so he bought a couple of Westinghouse Igen2500's. Knobs fall off, habitually hard to start; exactly what you'd expect for the price. Not impressive at all.
@JaromMcallister Жыл бұрын
I have both. If you have to move it the 3200 is better, but if you are stationary: the larger fuel tank, the electric start and the fact the 3000 is much quieter give the 3000 edge (if you don't have to lift it).
@MarkBuildGood Жыл бұрын
Great Video Gavin! Just checked the manuals on both machines and the EU3200i has a much higher compression ratio. EU3200i = 10.0:1 EU3000i = 8.5:1 While both manuals state that a minimum of 86 octane is required. I bet you can eek out a little more performance from the EU3200i running 92 octane.
@LemonySnicket-EUC Жыл бұрын
Depending on elevation.
@bitpri05 Жыл бұрын
Rather than comparison testing outside operating limits - why not turn down the cooktop power to match actual design constant power for a longer continuous run. I think this is a more valid comparison
@sortega9766 Жыл бұрын
Big improvement for Honda. Thanks for the great review.
@tumbleweedking5668 Жыл бұрын
Not really, no electric start or remote start capability is a big no for me. I've had the 3000 for 10 yrs with no problems.
@sortega9766 Жыл бұрын
@@tumbleweedking5668 yes but the weight/power and size compared to eu3000i ? Hopefully Honda will incorporate more features. My 3000 is a battle tank and is equally heavy. I still think this is a huge update to the Honda line.
@pegapod16 ай бұрын
Excellent comparison. Honda's advertised specs appear to be honest. A cheaper non-Honda generator (4000/3200w), that we load tested, handled 20% less wattage than they advertise (barely 2600w).
@davidtotten618 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. If you do further tests it would be very interesting to see fuel economy compared.
@GeneratorReviews Жыл бұрын
I will do that thank for watching
@mikemeyers40164 күн бұрын
Great job , like to see fuel consumption test
@lancelot1953Ай бұрын
Hi Gavin, excellent presentation, thank you for sharing with the community. Could you tell us what do you use to measure the power consumption (the little grey box gauge) that you have connected in series with your power connections? If it is custom-made, could you explain how you made it, thank you, Ciao, L
At this time I have 2x 2200 , had 2x 2000 , & had the older 3000 . From what I gathered Honda changed the magnets in the new 3200 to neodymium magnet - stronger magnets make for the more power .
@James-oh1wp Жыл бұрын
That was an awesome vid ! Wow … was shocked at the results . I just bought the 3200i last week !
@GeneratorReviews Жыл бұрын
Thanks 😊
@EazyT84399 ай бұрын
I’ve had my champion for 5 yrs. Still runs like new. I just couldn’t justify the price of the Hondas but yes they are the best money can buy
@jaysonstebbins2539 Жыл бұрын
I had the eu3000is for almost 7 years. Solid unit. I will say it doesn't handle big loads while it eco mode like you did. I don't think the eu3000is had a fighting chance with that eco mode on. I like how compact that 3200 was tho! Nice little unit! Was the eco mode on , on the 3200?
@GeneratorReviews Жыл бұрын
I agree ☝🏽
@Nick-gi6ym Жыл бұрын
Another great useful video. The 300 is really heavy big can’t be picked up by one person. The EU3200 fuel injection gas gauge wireless 🛜 information on your iPhone big price tag you also can double your power with the EU2200 with a set of cables. Thank You
@patriotone755 Жыл бұрын
Picked up my 3200i…awesome! Love the My Honda app, nice tech.
@patriotone755 Жыл бұрын
Nice review, I have a 3000is that I converted to LP and I can run it off my quick connects on my TT. But now I am considering the new 3200 as it is much more portable decisions, decisions.
@blackpepe Жыл бұрын
say buh bye to propane then
@colloidalsilver1096 Жыл бұрын
Great video Gavin!
@GeneratorReviews Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@jwestney285911 ай бұрын
You do great vids! i would love to see a vid comparing fuel consumption of the two generators. Subscribed!
@GeneratorReviews11 ай бұрын
Thanks I will add it to the list
@usptact Жыл бұрын
What about running every single load separately, measuring it and then tallying the numbers to see how much running power you need? Or, which combinations of loads your generators will handle? Good video nevertheless!
@georgesrisomsak9650 Жыл бұрын
Oh man! This is exactly the test I've been waiting for. It's a compromise between the two. Apparently the engineers won't let you have your cake and eat it too. If they give you everything, they don't sell new units that they sandbag and hold back, always leaving you wanting a newer model that still won't do it all. I want the smaller one, but the run time, quietness, and longevity of the larger one is definitely going to be better. Less rpm from the larger displacement engine is going to wear longer, as it's over built, and less rpms, mean less wear. Plus you get the electric start. I'll be switching gears and going with dual eu2000is's, and do a very large 240 split phase inverter on a 800ah lithium setup for large intermittent loads. Like cooking, laundry and water heater duty. I have the roof space for a ton of solar, but still want a stout backup, and I think it'll be hard to beat dualing 2200's on the 12 gal extended tank I've already invested in. They'll fit in compartments better, lighter, and if one fails, ya still have half of your power. I've thought good long and hard about it for quite a while now, and my trade off will be more maintenance, a bit more fuel, setup time and two pulls instead of one. That will be a rare occasion with the setup I have planned. The good is more raw heavy power, redundancy, and cheaper initial investment. Gavin, without these vids, I'd probably go another 6 months thinking way too much about it. Now it's simple, buy the companion, link them up, and spend the $ I save on the solar portion, which will be used most until the clouds come out for an extended period. Awesome vids as usual, a like and comment for support. Best Genset tester and reviews on KZbin period. Thanks for what you do for us brother, I most certainly appreciate it. Have a great day. Time for me to go get that paper.
@SuperRobkar Жыл бұрын
Thats what I did with my two 2000's. that gives you 3200 running watts, redundancy, and run it through a transformer, you got it all!
@kevinsweeney297911 ай бұрын
I'm liking the fact that you can parallel the 2000 with this especially cuz I own one but I like that. And Bluetooth operated eco control? By my phone? Yes please!
@usmcshepherdE9 Жыл бұрын
Had a Champion and it was always testy about starting..the new Honda 3200 with EFI starts easily on first pull every time.
@arriagada195720 күн бұрын
The big red is actually 49 db in low now the other newer honda 3200 has a better inverter capacity than the other
@AdamAdam-gd2tv4 ай бұрын
Thank you for nice and good review cheers
@bobbyb71272 ай бұрын
Going to buy the Honda EU3000is today for $2000 but really getting cold feet now. I'm reading a lot of bad reviews like it's not the same quality Honda generator as in the past, but idk what I would get instead.
@GeneratorReviews2 ай бұрын
There’s quite a few more affordable options these days
@bobbyb71272 ай бұрын
Keyboard warriors...LOL, which one personally do you like better, like if you could only own one? Awesome video!!!
@GeneratorReviews2 ай бұрын
I would personally keep the 3000 that 3200, Yes it has better mobility, but it’s loud.
@Abp.Mars-Assembly Жыл бұрын
Wow, very good test!
@isidorogarcia4803Ай бұрын
Big difference in weight. 3000 is 160lbs vs the 3200 is 70lbs
@jeffwhite3021 Жыл бұрын
Not a surprise. It has more peak than the big one. It's target market is rv'rs who will use them a week a year and want it to start the air conditioner 😊
@dadmachines Жыл бұрын
Good video. I'm considering selling my 3000 in favor of the 3200. The 3000 is tough to get into the box of the truck by myself but I love it otherwise. I am also considering keeping my 3000 and buying a 2200 for times when i don't need to run the ac. I like the idea of fuel injection but I've heard of flooding issues with the 3200.
@JaromMcallister Жыл бұрын
You can buy two EU2200i for the price of one EU3200i. Two EU2200i paralleled will give you more power (4400 watts) than the EU3200i and are easier to move around. Also running a Fuel Injected motor out of fuel is much worse than running a carburated engine out of fuel. Having said that I run a hybrid system. I use a Solar Charger and recharge it with a small gen. My solar charger will run the AC for about 3.5 hours by itself.
@kevinsweeney297911 ай бұрын
Dunno. I use my 2000 full time and its small but breatha easy. I've got thousands of hours on it. I do miss my 3000 do that thing kicked ass.
@davidthomas-qw8dz Жыл бұрын
Great video but instead of overloading them immediately why not build up to that like you have on other reviews
@browsedeweb8834 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I would have gone closer to their rated wattages first to verify their advertised ratings, then ramp up into overload.
@GeneratorReviews Жыл бұрын
That’s how I always did it and some folks wanted to see the maximum output amps
@SNS1212 Жыл бұрын
Could you do a real world review between the 2200 and the 3200? Not sure if it’s worth it but it would help to see where the 2200 fails and the 3200 keeps going in real world examples.
@moonobservergilles573010 ай бұрын
nice to see the two perform. I am looking to buy one either 2 2,220I watts or the 3200i . 2 x 2200 parallel give 4,400 watts Have not made up my mind yet. but the 3200I is fuel injection must be better of fuel consumption?
@ryanvansoest1942 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a comparison of the 3200 Honda and your gp 3300 I Generac for quality, power output and noise?
@pegapod16 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@GeneratorReviews6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the support 🙏🏾☺️👍🏾🎊
@randallweaver7034 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison video! Question on the inline AC meter - where do I buy 1 or what model is it?
@GeneratorReviews Жыл бұрын
I made it but you can buy the monitor on my website www.Gavins-garage.com
@mikeJohnson-ie2md11 ай бұрын
Isn't the bigger one bigger because of the larger gas tank and it's elevation due to the wheels and frame? Otherwise, I suspect that the internal parts I presume are about the same size.
@billsparling7691Ай бұрын
check the price of a timing belt change on the 3200......and it runs at around 4500 rpm
@GeneratorReviewsАй бұрын
Honda prices are wild
@mariodiaz42713 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@barrthom603 Жыл бұрын
now lets compare that new EU3200 to the other 3000 range generators!!
@GeneratorReviews Жыл бұрын
You got it 👍🏾😎
@Joe333x10 ай бұрын
Awesome video, currently deciding between two 2200, a 3200 or a 3000 and I noticed you said the new 3000 has Bluetooth, do you know what year Honda added Bluetooth to the 3000? I dont even see the Bluetooth logo on their photos on the website.
@jmljml506510 ай бұрын
I went the two 2200 route (Companion and standard) and am very happy I did. When you factor in the performance (meaning output), and the cost, it makes sense. Additionally I like the portability and ease of storage, especially over the 3000. I keep mine on shelves in my garage; try putting the 3000 on a shelf. FYI, the 3000 does not have Bluetooth.
@djejdenver678 Жыл бұрын
Man... I love your generator videos. My only complaint is your microphone. It seems to compress the sound so that we can't hear the sound of the generator. Hopefully you'll consider changing your mic....thanks for doing these. They are helpful.
@GeneratorReviews Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this information I will definitely look into it
@steveharkins279 Жыл бұрын
Have the 3000iu, love it, but it’s 140 lbs, and I’m getting older.
@HansZarkovPhDКүн бұрын
Like 7k in generators sitting on the lawn.
@mulefan1977 Жыл бұрын
Great video, what is the wheel kit installed on the generator? Does it work well?
@GeneratorReviews Жыл бұрын
Works great 👍🏾
@cystalskull3 ай бұрын
Higher RPM won it! for the 3.2
@bobbyb71272 ай бұрын
Seems like these are selling for $1999. I've seen some for $1399 but these could be a scam site. Do they ever go on sale? Will dealers take less?
@GeneratorReviews2 ай бұрын
Those are definitely not legit sales
@bobbyb71272 ай бұрын
@@GeneratorReviews I'll probably just suck it up and get the EU3000i for $1999 this weekend. :)
@CaptainPetrolburner Жыл бұрын
Neither one handles your unrealistic high load. 1 second versus 5 seconds makes no difference.
@GeneratorReviews Жыл бұрын
Lol wasn’t trying to handle it, just trying to see the peak output
@jmljml506510 ай бұрын
You're right. This "test" really did not provide any useful information.
@DannerPlace8 ай бұрын
What size was the AC? Great video.
@GeneratorReviews8 ай бұрын
The AC unit on my RV are 13,500 BTU with soft starts.
@just1lifexx118 күн бұрын
Inlike electronic starter.. ;but hate the weight
@Alexb_1775 Жыл бұрын
Awesome
@huntbran11 ай бұрын
Hey! I’m looking to get the compact generator for my RV to charge my battery and run the AC when needed. My RV is 30 amp, which adapter did you use to plug in to the compact? And would this generator suffice? Thanks for your help!
@GeneratorReviews11 ай бұрын
There’s lots of choices out there go ahead and check out my other videos. You’ll probably have a better idea of what you’re looking for. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIaucmVjqct7aJIsi=kRRXH-T1XywPl-kO
@Jay-j1u11 күн бұрын
He said "handles the load"
@GeneratorReviews10 күн бұрын
That’s what you got out of the video
@Moondoggy19416 күн бұрын
I thought the Honda 3000 was going for 3k, but I check now and they re going for 2K, does that sound right?
@GeneratorReviews5 күн бұрын
Be careful with sellers
@TalonNismo Жыл бұрын
Great video, is it an option to run a propane setup on it?
@GeneratorReviews Жыл бұрын
No, unfortunately it’s only Gas no dual fuel
@patriotone755 Жыл бұрын
Hey Gavin, will the 2200i Honda cover fit the 3200i? Just wanting a nice cover for my 3200i when I pick it up next week. Thoughts? Thanks!
@GeneratorReviews Жыл бұрын
I don’t think it will fit the 3200i is a bit longer.
@patriotone755 Жыл бұрын
@@GeneratorReviews yes it’s 23Lx12Wx19H
@stevezb Жыл бұрын
What did you use to examine sign wave characteristic?
@GeneratorReviews Жыл бұрын
I used this oscilloscope amzn.to/44ITO51
@skittybeef Жыл бұрын
Hi Gavin, can the EU3200i parallel with the EU7000is?
@GeneratorReviews Жыл бұрын
Probably not since one only puts out 120 V and the other puts up 240 V it would be hard paralleling them together
@gavinelliot3564 Жыл бұрын
Electric start the 32.sell millions.T800Aust
@GeneratorReviews Жыл бұрын
Gavin 👍🏾💯😎😊
@SteveH982646 ай бұрын
Does the AC on the RV have soft start?
@GeneratorReviews6 ай бұрын
Yes I have soft starts on both units
@sharonoberholzer74492 ай бұрын
Can you parallel the 3200?
@GeneratorReviews2 ай бұрын
Yes you can. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnTTn5qheb1mpNUsi=D_9oiuwxRyjbHToK
@6paxer Жыл бұрын
Take the eco mode off it will run it.
@55afishead Жыл бұрын
At 8:05 you turned the choke off?
@GeneratorReviews Жыл бұрын
No, I didn’t turn the choke off when looking through the camera I thought I grabbed the key. I was trying to turn it off, and I accidentally grabbed the choke instead
@55afishead Жыл бұрын
@@GeneratorReviews Thanks for the explanation.
@colloidalsilver1096 Жыл бұрын
Can we put a extended tank on the 3200i ?
@GeneratorReviews Жыл бұрын
Yes I believe you can
@colloidalsilver1096 Жыл бұрын
@@GeneratorReviews All it needs is a fuel pump?
@Asidebar Жыл бұрын
Why do you need more than 8 hours of fuel?
@SolGuy42 Жыл бұрын
Parallel them
@tumbleweedking5668 Жыл бұрын
Only real advantage is the portability vs the 3000. Other than that way overrated vs Champion products.
@KuntalGhosh Жыл бұрын
Honda is in a different league. You can not compare it to anything else. Maybe Yamaha comes close but again Yamaha also has some inverter issues but honda is just pioneers at this tech. There is not a single common failure in these that other brands do not have. Honda gens last 15-20 years easily.
@KuntalGhosh Жыл бұрын
@@joebrown9621 i don't know where you live, but here in India. eu30is goes for 1200$ and 70is goes for 2500$. parts are super cheap aswell for honda oem parts. most of the small components that come from japan are a bit pricy but rest of the locally honda made parts at honda siel factory is so cheap that there is no market for imported china generators. i bought a used eu30i for 300$ , it had very low hours but the previous owner left the fuel on and the fuel rotted in the carb. i cleaned the carb. bought a whole set of gaskets , filters , tools from the honda dealership and the whole set was 30$. cleaned everything up in 3 days and it runs like a brand new set , in 2020 it ran 6 days non stop on propane after cyclone knocked out power for my home. my previous honda ebk was 25yrs old before it got stolen.
@mclcr4053 Жыл бұрын
What model of Champion is their quite model in comparison to Honda or Yamaha? I have personally never seen one that wasn’t as bad as a lawnmower.
@berettaguy7445 Жыл бұрын
Champions are loud. If you don't mind noise, Champions are fine.
@6paxer Жыл бұрын
I’ve owned both, I would never go back to a champion. Hondas are soooo easy to work on if they ever need it.
@erastusnjoki2404 Жыл бұрын
Bigger engine will outlast that smaller engine in the long run rem Japanese build stuff to last not for showing off