GENESIS BEST ALBUMS!? (Tier-List)

[@kevtruth]

I love this idea. When you get comfortable and familiar enough with another discography, hit us with another one

[@JustJP]

Definitely! Ty Kev :)

[@stephendarcy9803]

@@JustJP Just come across your channel mate. Subscribed!! Anyone that sees the genius of The Lamb is pretty cool in my book. Personally everything from Trespass to Wind is top tier for me.👍👍

[@JustJP]

@@stephendarcy9803 Thank you Stephen :) I appreciate that a lot!

[@painless465]

Nursery Cryme ahead of Foxtrot seems like a bit of a hot take,but to each his own. My own personal rating; S-Selling England A-Foxtrot,Lamb Lies Down..,Trick of the Tail B-Wind and Wuthering,Nursery Cryme,Duke,And then there were three C-Abacab,Debut album, D-All others Great Channel! Keep up the good work!

[@jml-rj5re]

I approve this message.

[@AqualungsBreath]

First: Thanks for all ur reactions. Now my list S: SEBTP (which imho is the best Album of all times) , The Lamb, Foxtrot, Nursery Crime, A: Trick, W&W, Trespass B: Duke, And then there were 3, GENESIS, From Genesis to Revelation, We cant dance, Invisible touch C: Calling all Stations D: Abacab Seems I am very much in favour of the classic 5 piece. And Steves parting was hard.

[@michaelbenz8092]

Superior: Foxtrot, Selling England By the Pound, The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway..... A: Nursery Cryme, A Trick of the Tale, Wind & Wuthering, Duke, Abacab..... B: Trespass, And Then There Were Three.... C: Genesis, Invisible Touch, We Can't Dance..... D: From Genesis to Revelation, Calling All Stations

[@frugalseverin2282]

Very close to my rankings.

[@killianlpc]

Selling England By The Pound and A Trick Of The Tail, are on another level! The Lamb and Wind And Wuthering are a close second.

[@dankeliikoa281]

Hey Justin! This video looks like it's doing well, and as a big Genesis fan I really loved your song/album reactions so this was right up my alley. Great job here on your rankings and fair reasoning for your opinions, sir! For me: 15. Calling All Stations 14. From Genesis to Revelation 13. Abacab 12. We Can't Dance 11. Invisible Touch 10. Genesis 9. And Then There Were Three 8. Duke 7. Trespass 6. Trick of the Tail 5. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway 4. Foxtrot 3. Nursery Cyme 2. Wind and Wuthering (yep!) 1. Selling England by the Pound

[@bjwnashe5589]

Seconds Out is one of the best live albums of all time.

[@bobhartman1215]

That's a big 10-4!

[@markallen2984]

I agree and I also think the version of "Cinema Show" sung by Phil is better than Peter's version

[@mauriziolagaxio4954]

Absolutely

[@FormulaProg]

Dance on a volcano into los endos is superb on there

[@BieneMaier]

No. But „Genesis Live“ is.

[@neuroisis85]

S-Selling England, Nursery A-Foxtrot, Lamb, W&W B-Trespass, Trick C-Duke, Three D-Everything else

[@jonnykhatru]

I'll look forward to you reacting to We Can't Dance at some point! I think there's a decent bit of stuff you'll enjoy on it, it might surprise you!

[@jameswarner5809]

The thing to remember about Supper's Ready is that it is effectively half a dozen tracks and they're all good, so the percentage of the album that is top quality is greater than if you think of it in terms of ranking 6 tracks.

[@Aboundedcoast]

the cover art for the k'mono albums are some of the coolest I've seen, i can tell its my kind of music. thanks for the recommendation.

[@jml-rj5re]

Robbery, Assault, & Batter has an unbelievable jazz fusion - prog instrumental break. One of the highlights of Genesis' discography. I consider Trick of the Tail the "musician's album" and for me it's a Top 10, possibly Top 5 album of the rock era.

[@shyshift]

The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway number 1. My favorite concept album ever.

[@Alix777.]

Agree

[@Josledes]

It's one of the ones I like the least, it has good songs, but listening to it in its entirety makes me tedious. Too much prominence of Peter Gabriel, which I like, but I like his solo discography better.

[@shyshift]

@@Josledes My first of 3 Genesis concerts was seeing The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway in it’s entirety and Peter Gabriel is my favorite singer.

[@ProgBartleby]

Absolutely.

[@garri5108]

Bro I wanted to watch this video little bit later but ngl that was the best clickbait ever, I almost believed, my top: 1) The lamb 2) Selling England 3) Foxtrot 4) Nursery 5) Trespass 6) The wind 7) Trick 8) Duke The rest is not that important P.s. I'm surprised you put Nursery above Selling England, that is interesting, also Foxtrot B tier, damn, that hurts man, thanks for the video :)

[@Alix777.]

Nice list

[@sylvanm4216]

Fun! I hope you'll eventually cover enough XTC albums to do this. One of a VERY small number of other bands with a 10+ album discography that’s worth hearing from beginning to end for more than just completeness's sake (I'd put Gentle Giant and the Beatles in that list too).

[@wushu_jingwu_ar]

We Can't Dance is a hell of an album, it contains three epic prog songs of which two of them having a long instrumental section and all.

[@shyshift]

Boring my least favorite. I much prefer Calling All Stations.

[@fuckamericanidiot]

Haha

[@richardgonzalez7433]

@@wushu_jingwu_ar These two instrumental sections are really boring : too much (aged) synths, not enough guitar or rock feeling.

[@foxtrott689]

When you changed the order of the albums at the end I clapped a lot! My two favourite Genesis albums are Nursery Cryme and The Lamb.. in that order; Wind and wuthering is 3rd, then A trick..., Duke, Selling England, Foxtott, etc.. a very similar order. I enjoy watching your videos, keep it going!

[@simonbondsfield4249]

S: Foxtrot, The Lamb, Trick Of The Tail A: Abacab, Duke, Nursery Cryme, Selling England, Wind And Wuthering B: And Then There Were Three, Invisible Touch, Trespass C: Genesis, We Can't Dance D: Calling All Stations

[@sammelisuominen706]

This was a fantastic idea to do this! You should definitely do these more when you have finished other artist’s discographies. My ranking: Fantastic: Selling England, Lamb Really good: Foxtrot, Wind and Wuthering, Nursery Cryme Good: A Trick of the Tail, Trespass Decent: Duke, And Then There Were Three, Genesis Meh: From Genesis to Relevation, Invisible Touch, Abacab Bad: Calling All Stations

[@PhilliptBates]

Superior: Wind & Wuthering, A Trick of the Tale, Selling England By the Pound, ..... A: And Then There Were Three, Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, Duke, Abacab, Genesis, ..... B: The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, Invisible Touch, We Can't Dance, .... C: Trespass, ..... D: From Genesis to Revelation, Calling All Stations I would also put: Seconds Out (Live) in Superior; Three Sides Live in C Tier; Live over Europe in A Tier.

[@ethosardour2320]

I like these album tier rankings, JP. It was fun watching you rank these. Never thought of WInd and Trick as companion albums. Wind has it's own vibe and creates an autumn feel. I would put it in the top tier. A fantastic album to listen to start to finish on a good system. Always find reviews of And Then interesting. Many reviewers put it down and then talk about how great the songs are. Like all Genesis albums some tracks are better than others. It shows how talented these guys are to make a great album after losing Gabriel and Hackett. Again, great to listen to on a good system. Hackett is one of the best guitarists on the planet, but when I listen to these songs he is not missed. This album works just fine without him and creates a captivating winter mood, and would be more fitting near the top of the rankings.

[@shyshift]

Ethos Ardour is one of my favorite albums. When Genesis were touring The Lamb in America Peter was seen wearing an Ethos t shirt. Open Up is great too. I think they opened for them.

[@ethosardour2320]

@@shyshift Ethos Ardour is one of my favorite american prog albums along with Happy The Man - ST, Utopia - RA and Todd Rundgren's Utopia. The best moments are stunning. Open Up is almost as good. I would like to have an Ethos t-shirt, very cool looking. Saw Ethos open for Angel in 1976, had never heard of them. Those were the concert days.

[@shyshift]

@@ethosardour2320 I have a cd called Relics and it’s pretty much early demos. It’s on Black Moon Records.

[@ethosardour2320]

@@shyshift I have it. Worth a listen. Would like to hear some complete live recordings.

[@e997e]

Yay, I'm glad you did this, as Genesis is my favorite band. I actually really agree with a lot of what you said. The Lamb is my favorite album ever, so I'm glad you put it up there. As for differences, A Trick.., W&W, and Foxtrot would be in S for me. ATTWT would be in A behind Selling England. Duke would be down in B (Misunderstanding ruins it for me) and Abacab would be up in B as well (my love for Abacab would probably be my most controversial opinion, and I love Keep It Dark, so agree to disagree lol). I agree with the other stuff. Their very first and very last would be in the D category for me and WCD would be in B as well (also controversial....). Thank you for your updated opinion!

[@mico5678]

I absolutely adore "keep it dark"...

[@mico5678]

And totally agree on Abacab and WCD in B category

[@e997e]

@@mico5678 Not a lot of people appreciate them in the fandom, but it's cool to find someone else who agrees👍

[@ianfortier6796]

I agree with you both. Abacab does have it's missteps (I'm looking at you, "Whodunnit?"), but it's got some great music on there. I'm actually a big fan of Keep It Dark and Another Record. To me, AR is a solid way to end the album, kind of the aural equivalent to last call at the bar, imo. WCD is a solid album too, but doesn't grab me the way Invisible Touch does. That's probably a result of IT being released right sbout the time music was really hitting for me and it being my first real exposure to the band, combined with hitting at the right time when I was about 7 or 8.

[@mico5678]

Ok, let's change the evaluation criterion: which albums have you listened to most often? Not the most valid artistically but the ones you listen to the most. In my case definitely "seconds out", Abacab, Duke, ATOTT, WW. Yours?

[@chrissharkey3085]

Cool list - love it. i came up in the Phil-era, and so tend to gravitate more toward those albums. Just for me, I'd go: Duke, Genesis, Seconds Out, Trick of the Tail, Foxtrot, Abacab, Invisible Touch, Selling England, Three Sides Live, Wind and Wuthering, And Then There Were Three, We Can't Dance, Lamb, Nursery Cryme, Trespass, Calling All Stations, FGTR. This list is kind of constantly evolving.

[@char6364]

Love your content JP. Convinced nobody can top the randomness of my Genesis tierlist: *S* And Then There Were Three/A Trick of the Tail *A* Selling England by the Pound/Wind & Wuthering/Duke *B* We Can't Dance/Trespass/Nursery Cryme *C* Foxtrot/Invisible Touch/The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway *D* From Genesis to Revelation/Genesis/Abacab/Calling All Stations Yeah I've definitely somehow found a way to offend every type of Genesis fan one way or another there. ATTWT is to me their ultimate atmospheric winter album. Always surprised by the lukewarm reputation that one has. ATOTT is the band's storytelling at its finest. We share very similar A tiers and I'm glad someone else appreciates Duke's incredible blend of moody Phil Collins with some of Mike Rutherford's best work. Think you'd appreciate parts of We Can't Dance which surprised me when I sat through it because while very poppy felt like it had traces of Duke in its DNA. Hot take: Supper's Ready is just fine. There, I said it. Don't think it's the Magnum opus it's made out to be which is very much Firth of Fifth to me. Definitely gonna earn the ire of Peter Gabriel evangelists too by being one of those who thinks TLLDOB is musically sophisticated and ambitious but ultimately a stuffy mess with an ocean of filler. Think I'd get laughed out of 'classic Genesis' circles for saying I actually listen to more of Invisible Touch (the last three tracks are my Genesis guilty pleasure) than Broadway (only Fly On A Windshield and Carpet Crawlers get repeat listening in my house). Would be interested to know your top-five tracks someday!

[@biglyyuge6012]

Right there with you with the exception of And Then Yhere We’re Three which I believe should also be in column A

[@curlessmania4708]

Solid ranking! I love that Nursery Cryme is your favorite, it is such a great record! I also agree that Trick of the Tail and Wind and Wuthering are like sibling records. I would put Abacab and shapes a bit higher but enjoyed the video.

[@JustJP]

Ty Curless!

[@jenphillips3212]

I agree with a lot of your points, but naughty JP, the video thumbnail was a windup 😉

[@grahamharley4895]

Well played JP. I LOVE mid term Genesis but for me the standout single track is Firth of Fifth. Can I remind you of a totally disassociated request, a 'one off'? John Miles 'Music'... (at the proms). A simple fusion of rock, orchestra and choir, a brilliant and moving live performance you can check out on YT. Hit single in '76 is OK but 'live' has a bit extra despite the pauses. He died a couple of years ago, but this lives on.

[@MyNameIsBucket]

One thing you might want to consider before jumping back into Genesis: they re-recorded "The Carpet Crawlers" in 1999 for a greatest hits album. Definitely worth a listen.

[@kevinrombouts3027]

Yes it's fantastic featuring both Peter's and Phil's vocals in equal measure: a unique track.

[@eikestolze9109]

"Lamb", "W&W" and "Selling England" (in that order) are my S and "Abacab" is also my D. "Lamb" is my No. 1 album in general, so of course it is on top here.

[@rondegroot1508]

Nr.1: A trick of the tail for me

[@Alix777.]

weak

[@rk41gator]

@@Alix777. not a weak track on the whole album

[@Wayner71]

I was about to go to bed until I saw this video in notifications. There will be no sleep until I watch this. It's great to see another 'Seven Stones' fan. 'Nursery Cryme' might be on my S tier if its production was a bit cleaner. 'The Lamb' has always been my number one so that won't change. As a Gabriel-era troglodyte I put 'Foxtrot' and 'Selling England' ahead of 'Trick' and 'Wuthering' although I like those albums very much. I would put 'Trespass' just behind those two post-Gabriel gems. The rest of your list is very close to mine. Being very familiar with the three you haven't heard I don't think they will threaten the top tier albums. I do have a soft soft for 'Genesis to Revelation' though. I just wish someone would remix the album. A great list. Cheers.

[@thetid8852]

Interesting list - thank you for being different! Too many of these rankings are so similar to each other.

[@SpaceCattttt]

I don't think I've ever been more nervous watching one of your videos, Justin! Genesis have always been my favourite band. Going on 40 years now. Having someone else rank their albums is often a painful thing, because, well....I know how they should be ranked! 😂 But it's all in good fun. Here's my list. I'll post it here before watching the video so that it's a more fair comparison. 15. From Genesis to Revelation 14. Calling All Stations 13. Trespass 12. Wind & Wuthering 11. Nursery Cryme 10. And Then There Were Three 9. We Can't Dance 8. Abacab 7. Invisible Touch 6. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway 5. Genesis 4. A Trick of the Tail 3. Foxtrot 2. Selling England by the Pound 1. Duke

[@JustJP]

Good list Cat!

[@joaquinlezcano2372]

The only thing I agree with your list is Wind and wuthering. But interesting list nonetheless

[@Retro_Man_76]

Wind and Wuthering at 12? Ouch 😢

[@SpaceCattttt]

@@Retro_Man_76 Well, it's not bad. There are no bad Genesis albums. I just can't place an album that has "All in a Mouse's Night" and "Your Own Special Way" any higher than this. I wish I could.

[@TheSonnyfaiz]

Man, great idea. A little bit early for me to provide you all the information, I am going over each album over and over because when I was younger I liked them but too young to appreciate them until i heard The Musical Box and decided Nursery Cryme is the one. I have been listening to the first album this year more than ever. And selling England by the pound is very good, but I have to say all of these albums are all good. I even got my children to do a first kids review on The Musical Box, and a series based on the front cover and song on my channel, but man this is a good idea. Right now though oddly enough ….but I have to say my mind will change later…. This is my top three for now: 1: from Genesis to Revelation Because of the early psychedelic prog rock sound, awesome 2: Invisible Touch even though I really liked the earlier albums I think Phil Collins and the band is at their best and every track a hit 3: Nursery Cryme Me and the kids at home have a few favourites here, and we play them loud. I think when I discovered the first track two years ago I thought it was the best track ever written. Thanks 🙏

[@JustJP]

Thank you Sonny! I like your top 3! Interesting to see you have their 1st album as your favorite- I'll have to check it out a bit more

[@mcbeezee2120]

Ranking Genesis releases. Tough job indeed. Couldn't agree with you more on Nursery Cryme. Simply unparalleled.

[@Lightmane]

Interesting idea Justin. If you're going to try to rank all the YES albums, you'll have to listen to quite a few more, but there's some good news. You're done with all the U.K. albums, so you can rank those next 😎😱😛😃🙂

[@iainswettenham202]

Foxtrot should be A tier but apart from that I'm going to agree with you

[@sheldonhowells3083]

My favourite will always be, "Selling England By The Pound".

[@robertbarnett9939]

Pretty good list, personally I would swap totally the S and A lines complete, Anyway it's obvious that you are a complete Genesis fan now, So with that being said (and I've said this before) you must MUST do Seconds Out, I know you don't normally do live albums but you did make an exception with ELPs Pictures album and this is another case like that, To many fans (myself included) it contains the definitive versions of many tracks including Firth Of Fifth, Supper's Ready and Cinema Show and has often been quoted as the best live album ever (obviously debatable but it's right up there) Please Justin, please do it, you owe it to yourself.

[@ianfortier6796]

I really enjoyed this type of video, JP. I'd be up for more of these. My rankings don't really match yours, but that's the beauty of music. S-tier for me would be SEBTP, Duke, and W&W. A-tier would be Invisible Touch, Trick, Nursery Cryme. B-tier would be Shapes, Abacab, WCD. C-tier is Foxtrot, Lamb, ATTWT, Trespass. D-tier is Stations,l and Revelation. That's probably a result of me growing up with the poppier side of Genesis before discovering their prog work. I love both periods, though. Calling All Stations for me suffers from not having Phil involved. Nothing against Ray Wilson, he did a great job and sounds a little like Phil and Peter at times. It's just not Genesis for me without Phil. That being said, The Dividing Line and There Must Be Some Other Way are top tier Genesis songs. Looking forward to seeing your thoughts on the last 3.

[@stevemd6488]

That was fun JP. I'd make one pretty obvious switch but other than that good list.

[@VampeyMK]

Currently my tierlist would be this: S: Selling England, Nursery, Foxtrot, Lamb, Trick A: Trespass, Duke, Invisible Touch, We Can't Dance B: Wind, Genesis, And Then There Where Three... C: Abacab - D: From Genesis To Revelation, Calling All Stations

[@jml-rj5re]

1. Trick of the Tail 2. Selling England by the Pound 3. Duke 4. Foxtrot 5. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway 6. Wind & Wuthering 7. Nursery Chryme 8. Abacab

[@jml-rj5re]

S: Trick of the Tail, Selling England By the Pound A: Duke, Foxtrot, Lamb B. Wind & Wuthering, Nursery Chryme C. Abacab, Genesis D. Invisible Touch, There There Were Three

[@Retro_Man_76]

Nice ranking!

[@MisterWondrous]

I like their first (G2R), Selling England, and Lamb as all S-tier. Curious how you come down... Great way to start the afternoon!

[@rocky-o]

great video..i really enjoy your style..and your ranking was pretty good as well..i would put foxtrot and tresspass with selling england in a, wind and trick in b, throw duke down in c...and yes..lamb and nursery stay at the top..nice work..look forard to seeing more... peace..rocky

[@JustJP]

Appreciate you watching Rocky! Good list as well

[@axolotl8694]

nicely explained. I too have a soft spot for Cryme… it’s so original, busting out both Hackett and Collins on the same album. I think my only big difference would be I’d bump up Foxtrot, quite a bit, but I get your reasons. these are fun… looking forward to more.

[@JustJP]

Thanks Ax :)

[@michelcamino6290]

I agree. Can-Utility to me lifts the album a notch higher. Keep listening to it, JP. I'm sure you'll get to love it.

[@murdockreviews]

I think my two fave Genesis albums are 'Selling England by the Pound' (Gabriel era) and 'Duke' (Collins era).

[@toppledgod]

My favourite albums, Marillion's Misplaced Childhood and Genesis' Genesis, both hit me at the same time. We were on a School trip Ice Skating and on the PA they first played Marillion then Genesis. My teachers thought there was something wrong with me because I sat in the stands and listened to both albums in full. They cemented the greatest period in my life and my intro to Prog!

[@Marlinspike1964]

What an interesting ice skating rink.

[@jimbricker4982]

You really should listen to Genesis Live (73), and Seconds Out (77). Since ATOTT and W&W are A, I'm thinking SO would be an A+ and Live would be a solid B.

[@rushbravado1972]

If you get a chance give the last two albums a listen or two. Both are really good. I know a lot of Genesis fans dont like Calling All Stations but I think Ray WIlson does a great job replacing Phil Collins. Yes the album has some spots but it still tries to find some progressive sound. I love We Cant Dance. I know it can poppy in many spots but You still have Driving The Last Spike and my favorite Genesis song Fading Lights. Enjoyed the video. Got to say my go to album is Foxtrot. Top five would be Foxtrot, Selling England By The Pound, Wind And Wuthering, Genesis and Invisible Touch. I really love all Genesis albums except the first one and Trespass.

[@rk41gator]

Really like your comment, except for dissing 'Trespass'....it is rather folky, but it is solid. 'Fading Lights' is one of my favorite Genesis tunes. Some can't get past the drum machine, but I like Phil's use of the machine and playing live over it in some songs (Like his 'In The Air Tonight'). I like Ray on 'Calling All Stations' Wish the guys would have tried for one more album.

[@kevinrombouts3027]

Good to hear your ideas and analysis. My top 5: 1. Selling England by the Pound 2. Foxtrot 3. Wind & Wuthering 4. Nursery Cryme 5. Trespass 6. Trick of the Tail 7. Lamb lies Down 8. Duke 9. Invisible Touch The others I don't know much about but I will say their first album " In the beginning" is good for an album of its Era. Trespass takes them into the direction that captivated me. I actually love Trespass. Selling England is my favourite album of all time. Ir is the album that radically changed my musically taste. The prog door was opened and it has never shut in my life ( 50 years after first listen) Firth of Fifth is absolutely wonderful. Foxtrot is great. Supper's Ready just gets better & better. The Lamb's story is just too weird for me, but it has some stunning music. Case in point, the Lamia; making love with snakes?? But the music is phenomenal. Genesis' later stuff doesn't move me so much but I live Domino.

[@yannuku123]

The music Genesis composed, recorded and performed is so all round. Your ranking comes close to mine. I know voyage of the acolyte is not a Genesis album, but still Collins and Rutherford show their influence. I would rank it between selling and lambs. Just my opinion, hey!! :)

[@raushaxleman]

Something like tbis was always going to devide opinions, but i guess you expected that anyway 😂. My favourite by a country mile is SEBTP. Although i do tend to agree about The battle of EF. BUT!!! Sacrolige!! Cinema Show!!! The progressive Jazz fusion crescendo at 9:40 in, musicianship at its very best. Have a re-listen..... I demand a recount!!! 🤣

[@JustJP]

Haha ty Paul! CS is cool overall instrumental-wise, but I think its a bit overrated 😈

[@Larsangel]

The lamb lies down on broadway is a very divisive album I feel. Some people love it and says it's their best album, and some don't like it. I fall into the last category, I never really enjoyed it as much as Foxtrot, Selling England, Nursery and Trick of the tail.

[@glibmedley2314]

Agree, Lamb too claustrophobic for me. Selling and Trick are my top two, followed by Duke.

[@jorundef2032]

Generally not a fan of rock opera double albums in general and I don't think I'm alone there. You need to be in the mood for something like that.

[@timt9625]

The thumbnail actually scared me for a sec lol

[@JustJP]

💀

[@MisterWondrous]

At the time, Cinema Show was tantamount to Return to Forever, relative to everything else. Listened to from today's standards...it is still brilliant. Especially as a drummer, I should think you would be all over this. Where else a quality instrumental in 7/8? Then you add "Firth of Fifth", their masterpiece, and those two alone should put Selling England on top tier. It is by far the one I have heard most over the year, and was my first, thus special. It was fresh from the oven though, and so smooth it made their previous works seem like practice, and the much later work seem like pop. I had to give up, being a progressive ear, after a point. It wasn't progress. Other folks took up the mantle. Dead Can Dance. Listening now to Nursery Cryme, I can see why you set it so highly. So many great songs. Adventurous. I agree with most of your other placements.

[@quaid667]

The Cinema Show wasn't one of my favourites until I saw The Musical Box play it. Now it's definitely in my top 5 faves.

[@unicyclepeon]

WOW! This is basically my tier list as well, though sometimes I toy with bringing Duke up by 1.

[@paulayers1111]

Keep It Dark IS AWESOME!!! But my favorite from ABACAB is “me and Sarah Jane”

[@Retro_Man_76]

I've always loved Keep It Dark, and from what I seen, it's a fan favorite from Abacab. Not sure why he thinks the song is funny?

[@daneng3641]

S-tier Foxtrot; Trick of the Tail; Selling England by the Pound A-tier Nursery Crymes; Wind and Wuthering; Duke B-tier Shapes; The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway C-tier Abacab; Trespass; And Then There Were Three; Invisible Touch D-tier We Can't Dance; Calling All Stations; Genesis to Revelations Abacab was my first Genesis album and I feel like it should be B-tier, but the stinkers on that album just drag it down. I've been railing against Invisible Touch since it came out, but I actually do like some of the songs quite a bit and at least it's fun. We Can't Dance is just dull dull dull.

[@geneleonard4368]

S- Lamb ,Selling ,Trick A- Foxtrot , Wind & , Duke B- Nursery , Trespass, Invisible , Genesis C- Then there .. , We can't dance D - abacab, F- Calling That's my list - should give We can't dance a listen sometime it's got some good songs on it ✌️😎

[@stevelamonica2297]

I enjoyed your takes on all these albums. However, after over 40 years of digesting this band's albums, allow me to truly rank their exemplary catalog.. 1. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway 2. Foxtrot 3. Selling England By The Pound 4. Nursery Cryme 5. Wind And Wuthering 6. And Then There Were Three 7. A Trick Of The Tail 8. Trespass 9. Duke 10. Abacab 11. Genesis 12. We Can't Dance 13. Invisible Touch 14. From Genesis To Revelation 15. Calling All Stations

[@sAEGGi]

so 3 more genesis albums to listen through :D cant wait when they come

[@pilesovinyl]

You were a little hard on them I feel. I rank Selling England in top tier as well as A Trick Of The Tail. Duke and And Then There Were Three would go in A for me, agree with Abacab at the bottom, and I like Invisible Touch a bit more too.

[@Jared-91]

Interesting. Me personally S-Foxtrot, England A-Trick, Nursery B-Wind, Three, Duke C-Lamb, Touch, Abacab, "Shapes" D-Dance, the others i haven't listened to enough

[@paulayers1111]

My ALL TIME favorite band 10. Genesis 9. Invisible Touch 8. Duke 7. Nursery Creme 6. A Trick Of The Tail 5. Wind And Wuthering 4. Foxtrot 3. Selling England… 2. Trespass (personal favorite) 1. The Lamb Lies Down…

[@andrewundershaft1162]

Even though I don't agree with everything, I'm pleased with your ranking, all in all. 😄 Thumbs up for placing Nursery Cryme highly. And Lamb must indeed be S, no way around it.

[@thedarksiderebel]

You honestly could probably get away with never listening to their first and last albums. Neither are really indicative of the band you know. However, We Can't Dance is *incredible*. I dont know where it ranks among the fanbase, but of their more commercial period, it is probably my favorite. Driving the Last Spike, Fading Lights, Jesus He Knows Me, No Son of Mine. All absolute bangers

[@pema22]

yeah true. love named songs and "dreaming while you sleep". but these 5 are the only songs to listen to. almost everything else is pure crap.

[@BackLooking]

...but I agree with Jason´s ranking of Abacab. But I would put Trespass there as well 🙂

[@daneng3641]

Fading Lights is the only song in this album I would want to hear again.

[@thedarksiderebel]

@@daneng3641 surprising. I think there are a couple of songs on side 3 that could have been cut, but i dont know how you can not be moved by Driving the Last Spike

[@silchasruinedmytea7307]

Also -- make time soon if you can to listen to We Can't Dance. Genesis is my fav band, I don't think they have a bad record, and I think WCD is greatly underrated by some of the diehards

[@billjones8503]

A decent fair assessment JP. TBH never really paid much attention to Lamb. Sacrilegious I know! lol - A-listers agree with, except for Duke. I'd put down in C. Too poppy vibe breaks the Genesis cult imho. _ ATTW3 would put in B, or even A. The last great progressive album of theirs! I was there! ;) ~ Anyway, a good overall listing brother Justin. - p.s Oh, love your honesty in calling/sifting out the good & bad! 👍👌

[@jhillst]

S: Foxtrot, Selling England, The Lamb, Trick of the Tail A: Trespass, Nursery Cryme, Wind & Wuthering B: And Then There Were Three, Duke, Abacab C: From Genesis To Revelation, self-titled, Invisible Touch, We Can't Dance D: Calling All Stations

[@DrVentur3]

Since you really like the 2nd album, have yo reacted to their track "Twilight Alehouse" from that era? I believe it was only a single or b-side or something,but it's one of my favorites from that era. Also, if you haven't done their first live album, for me, the live version of *all* of the track on that album crush the album versions... there's so much fire in the performances! That album alone moves both Foxtrot and Nursery Crimes down a whole step in your ranking system for me, since the studio versions sound so flat by comparison.

[@frugalseverin2282]

Their b-sides are worth hearing as well as the "3 Sides Live" tracks.

[@DrVentur3]

@@frugalseverin2282 - Truth!

[@JustJP]

Thanks Craig; yup I've done TA

[@benoitrenaud519]

Looking forward to your ranking of Gentle Giant albums. I would rank Fox Trot higher and Duke lower.

[@BrendanAshton]

Foxtrot, Nursery Crime, trick of the Tail, Lamb lies down and Selling England by the pound are my favourites

[@sanddab]

IMO, Genesis made four masterpiece albums in a row, starting with FOXTROT (1972) and ending with A TRICK OF THE TAIL (1976). That to me was their Golden Era.

[@Alix777.]

Trick of Tail overrated weak record with too much gentle music in it.

[@jonnykhatru]

I'd argue Trespass to Wind & Wuthering are all masterpieces!

[@sanddab]

@@jonnykhatru For me, those albums had some great individual songs. 'Blood on the Rooftops' is one of my favorites, but as an entire album, I prefer the four I mentioned. I think they needed a couple albums under their belt to fully realize their sound, so by the time they started Foxtrot in '72, they'd arrived. W&W just has too much filler on it for me, and I didn't care for it's "more expansive sound" as Banks described it.

[@painless465]

Completely agree!

[@ProgBartleby]

You are correct. I agree 100%.

[@Alix777.]

Hello Justin it's Alix, I totally agree with your list ! (except for A Trick of The Tail, an album I never liked, I don't know why, C tier for me) And at least someone agree with me on Cinema Show : yes, this song is OK. Nothing crazy really. It's clearly overrated. SEBTP could have been a masterpiece with a last solid song, instead of this weak track (for a Genesis song I mean) Very glad you put Nursery Crime AND the Lamb first on S tier, those are my favorites too, the true Genesis masterpieces !

[@Josledes]

My selection: S - Duke, Wind & Wuthering A - A trick Of The Tail, We Can't Dance, Invisible Touch, Genesis, Calling All Stations, Abacab, And Then Where Three B - Selling England By The Pound, Foxtrot, Nursery Cryme C - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway, Trespass D - From Genesis To Revelation Obviously I like some albums more than others. In the case of Genesis, removing the album from their debut that I prefer not to value, the albums that I like the least, I like more than the best albums of other groups.

[@nintendo64isking]

I respect this mine personally: 1. A Trick of the Tail 2. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway 3. Foxtrot 4. Selling England by the Pound 5. Nursery Cryme 6. Duke 7. Invisible Touch 8. And Then There Were Three 9. Wind and Wuthering 10. We Can't Dance 11. Abacab 12. Genesis (1983) 13. Trespass 14. Calling All Stations 15. From Genesis to Revelation

[@rk41gator]

'We Can't Dance' and 'Calling All Stations' have some decent songs. Obviously, there will be no 'D' tier Genesis albums. 'Wind and Wuthering' keeps moving up toward the top for me. I agree with you, but would put 'Foxtrot' in A and move 'Genesis' to B. ABACAB I want to move up, but can't after all. Good work, dude.

[@sylvaindupuis5595]

My ranking: S: Selling England By Te Pound, Foxtrot, Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (in no particular order) A: Nursery Crimes, Trick of a Tail, Wind and Wuthering B: Trespass C: From Genesis to Revelation D: Everything after Peter and Steve left!

[@Alix777.]

"Wuthering Height" ? Non ça c'est Emily Brontë ;)

[@sylvaindupuis5595]

@@Alix777. Corrigé. Merci!

[@jimhardiman3836]

The four post Gabriel albums can be seen as representing the four seasons: ATOTT = Summer W&W = Autumn ATTWT = Winter Duke = Spring

[@a.k.1740]

Good analogy!👍 Everything that follows from Abacab up to and including Calling All Stations can be perceived as the disruption of the seasons🤣😂

[@MrGrahawk]

The top tier would be Selling England, Trick of the Tail and And Then there Were Three. After that it's picking out the decent tracks amongst the dull stuff, the indulgent stuff and the dross stuff (such as much of Abacab). Most albums have some really decent tracks, even The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, which at least led to Gabriel leaving for his stellar solo career. The first half of Genesis is one of their best album sides.

[@cedricmilford5254]

I totally respect that this is your opinion. For me, Lamb is just a little too trippy; a few good tracks amongst a bunch of weirdness. It’s my least favorite of those choices. I would also group Selling England, and Nursery Cryme together (like you did with Wuthering and Trick). I’d bump up Trespass, and move down Then 3. I also like Abacab more than Invisible. But hey, those are my rankings… Everyone has their own, right? Enjoy your day, Justin!

[@JustJP]

You as well Cedric!

[@mickr1448]

Lol yeah do it again, it was fun, Pink Floyd next maybe, however I know loads of Genesis fans you but you are the only one I know who puts Nursery Crime at number one, listen more to Can Utility its an epic Genesis track, anyway great channel.

[@SteelyDaddy59]

Everybody dumps on Abacab but it's a top 3 Genesis album for me.

[@sersineiro9784]

I agree with your assessment of Selling England. Is not as strong as the Lamb or Trick of the Tail. Do more tier lists. Fun stuff

[@JustJP]

Glad you enjoyed Ser!

[@Marlinspike1964]

I’m glad you did this Justin. One note “Seconds Out” is not just a live album from this band. It contains some of the best versions of their songs so I think it should be included. The other thing I’ve never really understood is how overrated Duke is. It has some great moments but the production is very thin and there are a lot of filler tracks. Here are my rankings. S- Trick of the Tail, Selling England by the Pound, The Lamb lies down on Broadway. A- Seconds Out, Nursery Cryme, Wind and Wuthering, Foxtrot. B-And then there were three. C-Genesis (Shapes) Abacab D-Invisible Touch, We Can’t Dance, From Genesis to Revelation, Calling all Stations

[@TRANZEURO]

No thoughts on 'Trespass' ?

[@AquaticDot]

I was surprised to see Nursery Cryme as the highest. I guess I made a mistake skipping that one and going straight to Foxtrot when I got into the disco. I'll have to add it to the list.

[@stuarthopkins1308]

I'm with you on Abacab. I hear a lot of love for it but I just don't get it. For me (just my opinion): S: Duke A: Selling England, Foxtrot, Nursery Cryme, Trick of the Tail, And Then There Were Three B: Genesis, Wind and Wuthering, Invisible Touch C: We Can't Dance, Abacab, The Lamb... D: Trespass, Calling All Stations, From Genesis to Revelation

[@eximusic]

The original Genesis Live (with Peter Gabriel) should always be ranked with the studio albums. Leaving it out is like leaving out Frampton Comes Alive from Frampton album ratings (you know, the live album that made him famous).

[@robertcartier5088]

A minor problem with Foxtrot... you claim that "Supper's Ready" is so epic that it gives the normal position of the album a 2-tier boost... Which either means that you consider it to normally belong at D, since you are leaving it at B... Or, you forgot to move it from B to S, where it actually belongs! ;-] You see my problem? I'm wondering if you consider it so bad that even with S's R, you still think it's a B, which is rather harsh... Or if you just forgot to give it that obligatory boost... cause, ya can't just ignore the best track they've ever done just because it skews you tier list, right? lol Just playing with ya, JP! It's a fine list! ;-] If I had to change anything, for me, I would swap Foxtrot and Duke. Cheers!

[@faldyreizandy9120]

My tier: S: Trespass until Trick of The Tail (except Nursery Cryme) A: Nursery Cryme, Wind and Wuthering, And Then There Were Three B: Duke C: FGTR, Genesis 1983, We Can't Dance, Calling All Stations D: Invisible Touch E: Abacab

[@danculbert6349]

S - Lamb, Foxtrot, Selling England A - Invisible Touch, Duke, Trick of the Tail B - Wind & Wuthering, Abacab, Nursery Cryme C - Tresspass, And then there were 3, Genesis D - We can't Dance F - From G to R, Calling all Stations

[@paulsharp2565]

I like the drumming on Robbery, Assault and Battery. I don't think it's a bad song. It keeps my interest. I find the rhythm and music cerebrally fulfilling rather than feeling the song on an emotional level.

[@WorseReviews]

I'd say my top 5 (It'll be very apparent what era I like lol) goes like this: 5. And Then There Were Three 4. Duke 3. Abacab 2. Genesis (1983) 1. Invisible Touch It literally goes in order of these releases haha, I'm an 80s pop guy so yeah lol

[@stephenpesta1550]

That was fun! Pretty much the same except Whodunnit is way worse than Keep It Dark which is actually underrated. 😁 Are you doing YES, RUSH and Fish-era Marillion?! Oh wait, you still have Misplaced Childhood (Side Two), Fugazi and, of course CLUTCHING AT STRAWS to do first!

[@jpirard]

If you do Marillion you have to do it ALL Hogarth era is awesome as well, and actually a LOT more material.

[@stephenpesta1550]

@@jpirard they really needed to switch the name of the band after the ‘88 split. Steve Hogarth brings a different vibe but still too many argue about which is better. It’s absurd. Marillion just kept evolving over time and, while I’m partial to Fish era material, I found I liked Hogarth too. It just took some time. My friends and I were so sore about Hogarth switch that, when we went to the Toads Place show in New Haven in 1989, we left after listening to just 4-5 songs. We weren’t ready yet and I think some people never will be.

[@fourseasons4105]

1. The lamb lies down on broadway 2. Foxtrot 3. Nursery cryme 4. Selling england by the pound 5. Trespass 6. A trick of the tail 7. Wind and wuthering 8. Duke 9. ABACAB 10. Self titled 11. And then there were three 12. Invisible touch 13. From genesis to revelation 14. We can't dance 15. Calling all stations

[@lukaf2393]

S) Foxtrot A) Selling -& The Lamb B) Nursery & Trespass C) Trick of the tail D) All the remaining in any order

[@Vantyler66]

Foxtrot is in a tier of its own for me. I feel like all 5 members are fully present and not holding anything back. Only track I have any problems with is Time Table which I think on its own is good but really just doesn't work for me on this album. I think Selling England is also slightly above the rest. Similar to foxtrot but I can tell when it's a Peter written track and when it's not. Not particularly fond of Banks' lyrics on the album, altogether though it's still an absolutely amazing piece of music. After that I'd put Nursery Cryme and Lamb. I love Musical Box and Salmacis but not a fan of Hogweed. Still an excellent album but not sure I can put it much higher. The Lamb has some great songs like Chamber, In the Cage, Fly, Counting Out Time, Back in NYC, Slippermen and my fave Riding the Scree. But there are quite a few songs I just am not a fan of so overall I can't put it above some of these other albums especially with the nonsensical story. B tier for me is Trick, Trespass, Duke, and ATTW3. Love Ripples and Mad Man Moon and there is some great music on here, but I again am not really feeling Tony's lyrics and there are some songs that just way exceed their ideal run time imo. Trespass is up here because it still has Peter's lyrics and it has Stagnation which is up there with Supper's Ready for me and brings this album up a tier. Duke is idk. It's still really tight but doesn't really connect with me consistently outside of Duke's travels and Guide Vocal. ATTW3 is imo Phil's best album as a vocalist and I think might be his best on the drums too. I don't like Snowbound or Follow You Follow Me and there are a few average tracks but I really like the tracks you mentioned and a few others. And then Wind in C tier. The only songs I really like on here are the 3 ending songs. Your Own special Way might be my next favorite. I think they were justified in becoming more pop after this album. Maybe Abacab is in this tier, I don't think it's terrible from the couple of times I've listened. Nothing after it has really made much of an impression on me outside of Mama but haven't listened to them very much.

[@reklovjj]

Appreciated yet you lucky guys are a bit young to truly understand Genesis especially during Pete and Steve’s period. Phil brought an outstanding drumming pace to the band and Tony and Mike kept their own pace. Let’s never forget the technology advancements of 80’s vs 60/70’s… especially in concerts