Georgie Porgie: The Scandal That Shook History

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@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
Greetings, darklings 🖤 Thank you for joining me on this eerie journey through the shadows. I trust you found our exploration into the dark origins of Georgie Porgie both intriguing and spine-chilling. If you enjoyed the experience and would like to support the continuation of our adventures, I'm always grateful for a cup of coffee ☕. Your generosity keeps the candles burning and the mysteries unravelling: www.buymeacoffee.com/theresurrectionists Yours in darkness and discovery, L x
@joancurran4897
@joancurran4897 8 ай бұрын
@DJones476
@DJones476 3 ай бұрын
Georgie Porgie pudding and pie Kissed the girls and made them cry When the boys came out to play He kissed them too because he was gay! Georgie Porgie pudding and pie did cocaine and he got high When the cops came out to play He flushed his stash and got away!
@supertuscans9512
@supertuscans9512 3 ай бұрын
This video is extremely well Made.
@gthompson58
@gthompson58 7 ай бұрын
My name is George. I’ve heard this annoying nursery rhyme a lot over the past nearly 66 years. Your explanations about its origin are entertaining.
@aprilshields2993
@aprilshields2993 6 ай бұрын
My name is NOT George, but for some reason my family has called me George since I was a toddler (a female toddler!). I hated this nursery rhyme.
@francesbernard2445
@francesbernard2445 4 ай бұрын
I have a son with a different first name. Not John; Or, Henry. I hope "The Ressurrectionists" KZbin channel offers discussion about nursery rhymes that includes his first name some day too after so many adult women in the past since he was a year and a half of age have been in the habit of reading nursery rhymes to him before then having to dissapear out of his life most of the time from there. In a world where day care and divorce and hookups with live in girlfriend maids too have become the norm among men.
@degraafenator
@degraafenator 4 ай бұрын
@@aprilshields2993 My Dad called me George too since I was a little girl too. He used to sing this song to me but changed it to "kissed the boys and made them happy" because I was a girl and I didn't want to make anyone cry. I have fond memories of him singing it to me.
@outlawJosieFox
@outlawJosieFox Ай бұрын
I always heard it like this When they boys came out to play, he kissed them too and ran away
@zzzsydneyhom1379
@zzzsydneyhom1379 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for publishing this! I always enjoy your work... I had always assumed that the nursery rhyme was about George Gordon, Lord Byron, the famous English poet and peer, who was also a notorious womaniser, and who also had a fondness for men I believe. The dates match up with the first recorded versions of the rhyme pretty well, since Byron was born in 1788 and died in 1824. His scandalous affairs instigated his departing England and taking up residence on the Continent in 1816, which also jibes with Georgie Porgy running away. Byron was however not cowardly and died fighting for the Greek cause to free themselves from Ottoman Turkish rule. Guess we'll never know...
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
That's a great observation! Thank you for sharing 🖤 I can see how it could fit with Lord Byron... My only reservation about both George IV and Lord Byron is that the earliest known publication of the rhyme (1841) calls it an "old ballad," and is among other well known songs/rhymes, implying it might have been familiar to people before it was published. This raises the question of whether Georgie Porgie was already well-known before the publication, and if there was enough time between these men's deaths and the rhyme becoming widely known....Thank you for watching and I'm happy you enjoyed it! :)
@paurushbhatnagar8100
@paurushbhatnagar8100 8 ай бұрын
Lord Byron wud make interesting entry . It also possible that rhyme was made for one flamboyant but later tweeked to describe another
@WildWoodsGirl65
@WildWoodsGirl65 5 ай бұрын
It is possible that if people noticed several guys that happened to be named George who had these similar characteristics, it would be alluded to in relation to all of them, & human nature being what it is, it's quite likely. So they're not all the first. But there is no tv, many people can't read & then can't afford many books for a length of history & they entertain themselves by word play, story telling, making jokes, gossiping about prominent figures - especially those who think they're their "betters," & over time I'm betting it will have been applied to them all. Had they not been named George 😂 they'd have been jokingly referred to as Georgie. It only became politically incorrect to tease over the last couple of decades. Until then it was common practice. And it's not like people have stopped doing it now that it's been labelled taboo. So position & status would not have prevented it. So, I say it applies to them all though one inspired it, and maybe we'd better not call boys named George, Georgie. 😂 I'm half kidding....
@lllPlatinumlll
@lllPlatinumlll 7 ай бұрын
I remember thinking on the words of this rhyme when I was a lad. I had been told that nursery rhymes were often political in nature and had lost their meaning however I saw something different in the words. To me this is an incredibly succinct story regarding morality, Georgie Porgie is a cad, he ran from his actions. The Rhyme asks young men to think about what constitutes manly behaviour.
@supertuscans9512
@supertuscans9512 3 ай бұрын
Actually he I believe looked after his bastard offspring quite well. There’s a chap who’s a scientific academic in the UK who used to make entertaining science programs. He is a descendant of one of Gerorge’s illegitimate children. In one programme he stood next to a portrait of George which hangs somewhere like Richmond House. He doesn’t just look similar to George 1V, he looks like the same person. Off the top of my head I can’t remember the man’s name. I believe Boris Johnson ( The former PM) is also a descendent of George IV.
@EleanorPeterson
@EleanorPeterson 8 ай бұрын
After the naughty 'pie' revelation, I'm intrigued by the thought of what Little Jack Horner managed to get out of one with his thumb. 😳
@kokoreneeherbert2111
@kokoreneeherbert2111 8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😅ROFLMAO🤪
@garylefevers
@garylefevers 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the laugh. I needed that.
@marymccaffrey48
@marymccaffrey48 8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@lynntownsend100
@lynntownsend100 8 ай бұрын
There's a theory that all those children's stories with a guy named jack (I. E. "Jack and Jill") is all about the same guy...
@catherinerobilliard7662
@catherinerobilliard7662 8 ай бұрын
@@lynntownsend100Jack (a nickname of John) was another name for a boy/lad as Jill was for a girl/lass; today an unknown person is John or Jane Doe.
@labethspain7936
@labethspain7936 8 ай бұрын
My great grandmother, whose own great grandmother was English and lived during the time of George IV, referred to obese people as “porgie”…so I tend to favor him as being the subject of this nursery rhyme.
@Bella-fz9fy
@Bella-fz9fy 8 ай бұрын
A little bit like podgy,used for a slightly doughy fat person/child.
@louisemorris1581
@louisemorris1581 7 ай бұрын
My understanding of porgie is also referring to fatness. Also from my grandmother who was born in 1905.
@WildWoodsGirl65
@WildWoodsGirl65 5 ай бұрын
I've heard that too, from the people who were in their 90s when I was a little kid. I was told it was rhyming slang based on George IV, pork pie > porky > Georgie porky? No, Georgie porgie! It rhymes. I asked an elderly British lady why her very tubby cat was named George. That was why. Her grandmother referred to anyone obese as porgie bc Georgie was porgie. But we don't know that George IV wasn't the butt of an existing joke bc nobody actually liked him. He was known as a selfish person in general & not exactly a wise leader, but one who didn't care about much except doing what he wanted and eating. The tradition of mocking kings and politicians goes back a very long way including comparing them to nursery rhymes but they have also inspired them. Humpty Dumpty was based on a real guy. I don't remember which. There are royals throughout time in fairy tales that make me glad to be a commoner! 😁
@PatriciaMacintosh
@PatriciaMacintosh 5 ай бұрын
yes. probably fat is best definition George IV was very fat. wore corsets and crafts high on his neck to hide a double chin
@ruthd7274
@ruthd7274 3 ай бұрын
The word is very close to 'podgy', which does, indeed, refer to a certain degree of rotundness 😂
@anthonycalbillo9376
@anthonycalbillo9376 8 ай бұрын
It sounds like George the 4th, is a likely candidate for this poem.
@dwiggi3rd504
@dwiggi3rd504 8 ай бұрын
I well remember in the early 1960's that my Junior school teacher (Mr Neasham) told me and fellow classmates this was so (Geoge IV), I have never forgot his wise words after all these years.
@SafetySpooon
@SafetySpooon 6 ай бұрын
This was always my thought as well.
@kitkat186
@kitkat186 8 ай бұрын
My father was a George my mother would tease my father with this ryhme, and he would laugh and chase her around the table and up the stairs, while she shrieked her head off.
@firstchoice7761
@firstchoice7761 8 ай бұрын
My husband always answered my quoting this rhythm by saying, "made them sigh". Hee, hee.
@jimsmith9301
@jimsmith9301 8 ай бұрын
These comments are just as great as the video! Thank you.
@laurencetitusoates6328
@laurencetitusoates6328 8 ай бұрын
Too much information.
@Kepi_Kei
@Kepi_Kei 7 ай бұрын
@@laurencetitusoates6328 🤣🤣🤣
@Graeme_Lastname
@Graeme_Lastname 7 ай бұрын
@@laurencetitusoates6328Never enough. 🤣👍🇦🇺
@rl3293
@rl3293 8 ай бұрын
My brother was Georgie Porgie in a play in his kindergarten class. When the time came for him to kiss the girl, he ran away crying. I was 4 and he and my other brother were 5 and 7. I'm 62 so a long time ago. 😅😊
@AnMuiren
@AnMuiren 8 ай бұрын
As a teen I remember my classmates, particularly ones from Catholic families having adapted the rhyme as code for whether they'd missed their period, "Has George come to visit?" or "Had a kiss from George?". In that context Georgi Porgi, pudding and pie, kissed the girls and made them cry referred to one's time of the month, and if the boys come out to play, no period, no kiss from George and you had a real problem.
@mickyjgreen
@mickyjgreen 8 ай бұрын
This makes sense - pudding and pie is still a mystery to me though - some allusion to puberty? And the choice of Georgie as a name (and porgie).
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your insights, that's a great interpretation! :)
@TheKrispyfort
@TheKrispyfort 8 ай бұрын
​@@mickyjgreen pudding - sausages pie - already alluded to
@JohnPatterson-kz8jr
@JohnPatterson-kz8jr 7 ай бұрын
Well Sheldon Cooper's big brother is named Georgie!!😮😅😊
@ThisIsLovelyLaura
@ThisIsLovelyLaura 7 ай бұрын
You may be on to something... I watched a video from an Amish woman who said girls could not go out to play if they were on their period. When the girls came out to play, Georgie Porgie ran away.
@whiterabbit-wo7hw
@whiterabbit-wo7hw 8 ай бұрын
Indeed. Georgie the 4th would be the prime perpetrator in this investigation of who kissed the girls. This case was well presented, and though our suspect has been deceased for quite a number of years, we'll dig him up and put his bones on trial. Thank you for a brilliant showing of evidence to move this case forward. Well done, Queen of darklings. Well done.
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I'm so happy you enjoyed it and thank you for such a lovely comment :) 🖤
@TX200AA
@TX200AA 8 ай бұрын
Re Caroline of Brunswick. When a supporter begged the Lords to remember that Christ himself had forgiven the woman taken in adultery the reply was one of the best ever:- "Most gracious Queen, we thee implore to go away and sin no more, Or if that effort be too great, to go away at any rate."
@karphin1
@karphin1 7 ай бұрын
Am thinking that George IV was the target of the rhyme, it certainly fits a good deal of his life. Of course, the rhyme may have existed in oral tradition before, and been adapted to refer to him. Fascinating as usual!
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much :) 🖤
@katherinelarini8514
@katherinelarini8514 8 ай бұрын
George IV just seems a fitting protagonist for the character of Georgie Porgie... thanks for another great video...
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
You're very welcome! I'm so happy you enjoyed it :) 🖤
@davepowell7168
@davepowell7168 8 ай бұрын
A strong narrative without distracting music has become scarce, thanks .
@victorcontreras3368
@victorcontreras3368 8 ай бұрын
What great insights into poems and verses we've heard! I never knew they dated back so many years and you offer interesting viewpoints and explanations. I also love your English accent. It makes you sound that much more genuine on these subjects. Keep up the good work ❤.
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your lovely comment! I'm so happy you enjoyed it :) 🖤
@sergepd
@sergepd 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. I've been here since the beginning and this episode was my favorite. This was the first rhyme I read as a child that made me consider that there was more to the story told. My favorite aspect of these videos is that you've give us detailed explanations of each theory you present. And your voice is spot on for this series.
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, both for your ongoing support and lovely comment! :) 🖤 I'm so glad you enjoy my videos and I really appreciate you being here!
@rayzorback88
@rayzorback88 5 ай бұрын
I watched just to hear her say Georgie Porgie over and over again. Best voice on KZbin!!! 🖤🖤🖤
@charlotterolph5373
@charlotterolph5373 8 ай бұрын
I went to Portsmouth Grammar School which is next door to the building where Buckingham was murdered, I even had English litterature classes in an upstairs room of that house. I never knew about the possible connection to Georgie Porgie. Very interesting.
@user-rv8wb1nl1b
@user-rv8wb1nl1b 4 ай бұрын
Is Mr Wright still fidling with young boys ? all thru the 90's . . . .
@stevejohnston7501
@stevejohnston7501 8 ай бұрын
Perfect narration, tight scripting…and a beautiful voice!
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! What a lovely comment! I'm so happy you enjoyed the video :) 🖤
@skullrose8985
@skullrose8985 7 ай бұрын
I come across this video today & I'm so happy I did..Your narration was so clear & you made it easy to follow & understand, also it was very intresting & kept me gripped.. Thankyou so much,I'm going to check out the rest of your video's..Have a great day & take care 🔥💜🤘🏻☮🔥💜🤘🏻☮
@kellygillette5852
@kellygillette5852 8 ай бұрын
As a descendant of George IV I vote for him being the subject. When my mom bragged of being related as a child, her history teacher took her aside and said it’s nothing to be proud about! Although it can be said he influenced fashion and architecture.
@WildWoodsGirl65
@WildWoodsGirl65 5 ай бұрын
There is probably absolutely no one without at least one ancestor we'd have looked askance at! It serves to keep us humble! 😂 Even if they were royal, lol, & perhaps especially then as there's more lesson in that!
@gazza2933
@gazza2933 6 ай бұрын
The Stuarts were a strange bunch. As always. Great narration. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 👍
@martinwarner1178
@martinwarner1178 8 ай бұрын
The poem stands for any time in history. Love the video. The ladies voice is nothing but lovely. Peace be unto you.
@KeithPrince-cp3me
@KeithPrince-cp3me 8 ай бұрын
My 1973 copy of Folklore Myths and Legends of Britain gives the options of George Villiers, George I or, less likely, Charles II, as the model for the rhyme.
@whatsanenigma
@whatsanenigma 8 ай бұрын
I doubt any girl cried after being kissed by Charles 2. 🙃
@elphi4321
@elphi4321 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your research in explaining the origins of these childhood rhymes. I knew these rhymes were much darker than suggested, but I never knew. Though, the best explanation I've heard for these rhymes was to accustom children that life is dangerous. 😮
@gregbuckley7596
@gregbuckley7596 8 ай бұрын
I think these rhymes (and songs)were originally made up by adults and told to other adults,much like jokes get told today. Then someone decided to publish them, and they ended up being read to children.
@linpollitt8950
@linpollitt8950 8 ай бұрын
George IV I think. I've always thought that. Great video 😊
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! :) 🖤
@paulboucher806
@paulboucher806 8 ай бұрын
The amazing voice of the narrator really makes this content more interesting, I'd really like a telephone discussion with her
@nickcoppard5335
@nickcoppard5335 7 ай бұрын
How is the contessa ?
@paulboucher806
@paulboucher806 7 ай бұрын
@@nickcoppard5335 no idea, is that what she is?
@nickcoppard5335
@nickcoppard5335 7 ай бұрын
@@paulboucher806 old programe on telly the protectors Tony anholt is Paul bouche nyree Dawn porter is the contessa
@seitisetsoh4991
@seitisetsoh4991 8 ай бұрын
The Duke of Buckingham's story needs a Netflix series, just wow
@jawo8754
@jawo8754 8 ай бұрын
Iris being made by STARZ.they have already announced it and showed previews.
@ikarus_incarnate
@ikarus_incarnate 8 ай бұрын
Yet another intriguing insight to something we think we know, but probably don't. Thanks for sharing your knowledge 🙏🏻
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
You're very welcome! I'm so happy you enjoyed it :) 🖤
@tommysmith5479
@tommysmith5479 8 ай бұрын
Really loving your nursery rhyme videos - a great delve into history.
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm so happy you're enjoying my channel :) 🖤
@uwantmikehawk1
@uwantmikehawk1 8 ай бұрын
i just found your channel , i have to say i never really gave much thought to those nursery rhymes's humble or not so humble origins . It is incredibly interesting , and frankly a fascinating aspect of our culture and history . Simply put i enjoy learning and thinking on things and it is rare to find a subject where i never even wondered about even fleetingly , let alone even thought , to think about it . thanks
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I'm so happy you enjoyed it and thank you for such a lovely comment :) 🖤
@lauradavison4044
@lauradavison4044 8 ай бұрын
Again another interest set of ideas, thank you. I cannot decide which is the best as both are plausible.
@jamessotherden5909
@jamessotherden5909 8 ай бұрын
I think its George the 4th. I really enjoy hearing the Nusery Rhymes of my youth , But love the history lesson on how they might have come about. I'm never disappointed.
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm so happy you enjoyed it :) 🖤
@loromas63
@loromas63 3 ай бұрын
Keep them coming dear Lady. Nice hearing your voice!
@lindarichards2218
@lindarichards2218 8 ай бұрын
George 4th I think. Very much enjoyed it. Thanks for all research that you do very well put together and presented. Looking forward to your next delve into the dark world of nursery rhythms 👍🏻
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm so happy you enjoyed it and appreciate you watching/commenting :) 🖤
@hannahk1306
@hannahk1306 5 ай бұрын
I think George IV is a more likely fit. I've now got the Horrible Histories song stuck in my head, thanks to this video!
@Jay-Leigh
@Jay-Leigh 8 ай бұрын
New subscriber. Really enjoying so far 😊❤
@andydavis8437
@andydavis8437 8 ай бұрын
Sometimes the Answer’s in plain sight - read the rhyme again, and think of Georgie as a Woman She could be the Duchess of Devonshire (1757-1806) Georgina Spencer-(great, great, great Aunt of Diana Spencer) Socialite, Libertine, Author, activist & Feminist - Bisexual You may remember her from the 2006 movie The Duchess played by Keira Knightley
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
That's a great observation! Thank you for sharing. You're absolutely right; the Duchess could be another contender! 🖤
@kimlarso
@kimlarso 7 ай бұрын
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@josephinelinville3280
@josephinelinville3280 7 ай бұрын
I am so glad I decided to become a "darkling". So enjoying listening and thinking of the nursery rhymes from childhood.
@tamarrajames3590
@tamarrajames3590 8 ай бұрын
I had always understood this rhyme to be associated with George IV, as it did seem to point up his hedonistic tendencies and overindulgence. You are, however correct, it could well fit the much earlier King’s favourite, although I don’t recall him ever having let his fine figure go through excesses at the table. While he was not the most successful leader of military men, I saw no indications that he shirked his duty, or deserted his men. He even died like a man, in attempting to slay his assassin with his own knife. Thank you, I thoroughly enjoyed this.🖤🇨🇦
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching and commenting :) 🖤
@supertuscans9512
@supertuscans9512 3 ай бұрын
Pudding and pie might have nothing whatsoever to do with food but instead may well refer to male and female genitalia. Pudding was sausage shaped meat like ‘Black Pdding ( a sausage made of Blood) and Pie is a euphemism for female genitalia which is still used. Florence (of Florence and the Machine) has a song titled ‘ Get your filthy fingers out of my pie’ and she’s not singing about her lunch.
@VijaySuryaAditya
@VijaySuryaAditya 8 ай бұрын
Both stories are excellent candidates for the original inspiration.
@margeebechyne8642
@margeebechyne8642 3 ай бұрын
I had always understood Georgy Porgy to be the Prince Regent. Hadn't heard about Buckingham before and found it very interesting. Thank you!
@mch12311969
@mch12311969 8 ай бұрын
Unlike some of your other videos this one only has two options, which makes it much easier to follow. While I would like to think that it is referring to the Duke of Buckingham, from the evidence presented it would appear to me that this rhyme is referring to the Prince Regent.
@hoibsh21
@hoibsh21 8 ай бұрын
Thus we have the Genesis album, Nursery Cryme.
@AudioFlat
@AudioFlat 8 ай бұрын
I always thought it referred to George IVth - but I do like the alternative you put forward.
@IRSA1
@IRSA1 8 ай бұрын
Somehow, the duke of Buckingham seems a better fit for this popular rhyme. Once again, this clearly illustrates that grand titles, power and riches are no reflection of virtue,courage or industry, but rather a licence for debauchery and untamed ruthless excess. This is why I have always viewed anything to do with the aristocracy with total suspicion and often contempt for their scandalous privileges.
@peterkilbridge6523
@peterkilbridge6523 8 ай бұрын
Wonderful series. Nursery rhymes were the rock songs of their day. Like "Last Dance with Mary Jane 🌿" (😏). How to mock a king? In a nursery rhyme!
@MickyO567
@MickyO567 4 ай бұрын
Love this channel !! We were brought up in Newcastle in the 60/70's with the rhyme ending - "..... When the boys came out to play, he kissed them too - he's funny that way". My money is on the Duke of Buckingham 😂🤣
@gabrielrousseau958
@gabrielrousseau958 8 ай бұрын
I think the rhyme fits both, later adapted to fit the prince regent.
@finbarrsaunders
@finbarrsaunders 8 ай бұрын
Your voice is beautiful ❤
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
Oh thank you! That's very sweet of you to say :) 🖤
@BrianMcClure-b7z
@BrianMcClure-b7z 8 ай бұрын
If these happened today, only you would find it in the tabloids, and by and by, it's all true. A cautionary tale to loose weight or stop acting like something that you would find in a 80's comedy skit.
@hebbyhope2094
@hebbyhope2094 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for another fantastic video, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I think its about George the IV. ❤❤❤❤
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
You're very welcome! I'm so happy you enjoyed it :) 🖤
@cw4608
@cw4608 8 ай бұрын
“Affections and patronage”. OK I guess it is another way of putting it.
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
😂
@Imhexed
@Imhexed 4 ай бұрын
Very interesting and very well put together
@JoeWudgeP5000
@JoeWudgeP5000 8 ай бұрын
Us Georges are always AMAZING looking creatures. My closest friends call me, 'JOE-WUDGE' tho.
@MrOzzy241
@MrOzzy241 6 ай бұрын
really like this channel thanks
@lordbarham1
@lordbarham1 8 ай бұрын
Funny, I have been wondering if you were going to do this one, and lo and behold, while looking for something completely unrelated, it came into my KZbin feed! Not sure why this one was circulating in my head w.r.t. its origins: I actually remember it from childhood when it was used to bully a kid named George who was my friend at the time. Pity Charles I liked Villers: it was one of those things used against him by all those 19th Century Historians. (18th Century Historians were a lot kinder to him, and my own feelings are that he was not that bad of a king: he stood up for the nascent working class against both aristocrats and the rising middle class, which was already starting to cruelly exploit them. I suppose I'm biassed: our family were cavaliers who lost everything when the roundheads prevailed!) Well done! I quite enjoy your explorations of the darker side of nursery rhymes, You gonna do Mother Hubbard next? Would love to know what that one was all about. (See exploited working class above.)
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm so happy you enjoyed the video. Yes, Mother Hubbard is on my list; I've got so many to work through but I will get to it I promise! :) 🖤
@Bolanboogie10
@Bolanboogie10 7 ай бұрын
When the boys came out to play, he kissed them too because he's funny that way. That's what we were taught at school.
@rodneyatleson2861
@rodneyatleson2861 7 ай бұрын
I couldn't help but to think back to the early nineteen-nineties with Andrew Dice Clay's version of Georgie Porgie...😂😂😂😂😂
@fs.pureblood
@fs.pureblood 8 ай бұрын
Georgie porgie pudding and pie. Kissed the girls and made them cry. When the boys came out to play he kissed them too he's queer that way.
@kathdudek1673
@kathdudek1673 8 ай бұрын
I kinda favor the inspiration as George lV. Makes sense to me. Good research!
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much :) 🖤
@VickyCooksalot
@VickyCooksalot 8 ай бұрын
I always thought that it referred to George III. That's what I remember from my own research anyway. I'm really enjoying these videos. Keep them coming.
@greeboX
@greeboX 8 ай бұрын
Hmmm... why oh why?! Now I want to sew a Musketeer costume :D And to read the book again. (Thanks for the video :) )
@PMA65537
@PMA65537 5 ай бұрын
It's enough to make Raquel Welch fight Faye Dunawaye.
@paulchambers3142
@paulchambers3142 8 ай бұрын
Very hard choice. Although George the 4th seems the stronger candidate you put a compelling argument about the Duke of Buckingham. In many cases one leans towards the lesser of the two simply based on the amount of discretion and indiscretion of those who had power in those days. Great presentation as ever...Well done 😊 Keep up the good work 👏
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm so happy you enjoyed it :) 🖤
@nerinat8371
@nerinat8371 8 ай бұрын
George 4th, love your work
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much :) 🖤
@here_we_go_again2571
@here_we_go_again2571 7 ай бұрын
Your narrations are fabulous! I always enjoy your videos ❤❤ (Pudding /puddin' / pudden = pudendum?) As I recall, "porgie" / porky) is old-time slang for a fat person My money is on the Prince Regent, later George IV.
@danielwillens5876
@danielwillens5876 4 ай бұрын
The moment you said "Prince Reagent" I thought OF COURSE! Didn't need to see the rest of the doc.
@angr3819
@angr3819 7 ай бұрын
Thank you. So glad to not have to listen to background music.
@JeffreyHornick-ep3si
@JeffreyHornick-ep3si 3 ай бұрын
I think the rhyme deals with the Jacobite rebellions, culminating with Bonny Prince Charlie. The “kissed the girls” would refer to George I as elector for f Hanover being made king after Queen Anne died. Anne’s sister and her husband William of Orange had supplanted their father but both died childless. The boys coming out to play would be the Jacobites rising to restore the Stuart line from the Hannovers.
@misscatalina711
@misscatalina711 8 ай бұрын
I love your posts!
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much :) 🖤
@jodygoar7071
@jodygoar7071 8 ай бұрын
Great writing, as usual.
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much :) 🖤
@costrio
@costrio 5 ай бұрын
I like your analysis. I think that it's also the kind of rhyme that children would skip a rope to, perhaps? In that way, a tale can be told by the innocents without knowing it? Then when it safe enough to print, the avant-guarde of artists might polish it up a bit? I wonder what the man on the street thought about in those days.
@laurencetitusoates6328
@laurencetitusoates6328 8 ай бұрын
I love a slice of pie from time to time.
@Emanresuadeen
@Emanresuadeen 8 ай бұрын
Warm apple pie.
@baylorsailor
@baylorsailor 8 ай бұрын
I named one of my kitties Georgie Porgie. 😊
@SakuraAsranArt
@SakuraAsranArt 8 ай бұрын
A lot of nursery rhymes and fairy tales have dark origins. The most famous is probably Ring-a-roses which is about the bubonic plague.
@mikequirk6879
@mikequirk6879 4 ай бұрын
Excellent. Many thanks. Xxx
@neoamor414
@neoamor414 5 ай бұрын
The definitive jazz-pop representation of this story is from the band Toto. In the late 1970s on their first album. Pretty decent song.
@mywickedqueen3547
@mywickedqueen3547 5 ай бұрын
😂 I love to burst people’s bubbles with such trinkets of knowledge.
@miladydewinter7770
@miladydewinter7770 8 ай бұрын
I'm going with the George IV story. Love you videos
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much :) 🖤
@DonP_is_lostagain
@DonP_is_lostagain 8 ай бұрын
I'd say it much more fits George IV than Georges Villiers. Although there is another candidate in one Lord Byron. If I'm not mistaken his name is George as well, and he was equally known to be a womanizer, and scandal prone. So much so that a lady was wont to state that he was mad, bad, and dangerous to be around (though I've also heard it as dangerous to know). I don't know his history well enough to link that pudding and pie, though I believe he was bisexual, or the running away when either the girls or boys came out to play.
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
That's a great observation! Thank you for sharing 🖤 I can see how it could fit with Lord Byron :)
@jimsmith9301
@jimsmith9301 8 ай бұрын
@An. Fascinating. I never knew that. God bless.
@nicholaswalker2494
@nicholaswalker2494 8 ай бұрын
Thank You dark one for another awesome video 👍👍
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
You're very welcome! I'm so happy you enjoyed it :) 🖤
@KimCrisp92
@KimCrisp92 2 ай бұрын
I grew up reading these bedtime stories. I wondered why
@spontaneous_kat
@spontaneous_kat 8 ай бұрын
I love your videos!
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much :) 🖤
@BrandiRayburn
@BrandiRayburn 6 ай бұрын
so enjoyable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Graeme_Lastname
@Graeme_Lastname 7 ай бұрын
Really liking your channel. Are you sure about those weight calculations? 🙂
@Patbwoy
@Patbwoy 5 ай бұрын
Haha, as a non native speaker it was quite a revelation to learn that "Georgie Porgy" isn't just a song by Toto :) I never knew :)
@dmikewilcox
@dmikewilcox 8 ай бұрын
Well done!
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much :) 🖤
@capitanvonchickenpants8492
@capitanvonchickenpants8492 5 ай бұрын
You have a soothing voice
@RandomHouseDudeChats
@RandomHouseDudeChats 7 ай бұрын
(HMMMM.....) "....& THESE 'Adult Affairs' Were CONSIDERED 'Nursery Rhymes' For CHILDREN????!!!!" Wowzerz....👀👀🤔✌️
@ninatrabona4629
@ninatrabona4629 3 ай бұрын
When very young I read a faery tale about two children who found themselves in the land of faery after they walked around the church counterclockwise (widdershins). Where might I find this story?
@paulboucher806
@paulboucher806 8 ай бұрын
I think George the 4th is a very likely source of the inspiration for this ryhme, mainly gleaned from watching the Scottish Detectorist on KZbin who refers to him as Dirty Bertie when he finds coins from his epoch 🤓
@LewisLittle66
@LewisLittle66 8 ай бұрын
I've always assumed it was George IV
@sstaners1234
@sstaners1234 8 ай бұрын
You should do one on All The Pretty Horses.
@falcolf
@falcolf 5 ай бұрын
This is my first time ever hearing this rhyme. I'm 34.
@julianbarber4708
@julianbarber4708 6 ай бұрын
I've always believed it was George....no idea where I got the idea though!
@davidpeters6536
@davidpeters6536 8 ай бұрын
The first 7:30 are pure speculation, but George IV is a good possibility as is Lord Byron. It is very nicely read, no blundering AI voice to suffer.
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much :) 🖤
@peregrinemccauley5010
@peregrinemccauley5010 8 ай бұрын
That was interesting, thankyou.
@The-Resurrectionists
@The-Resurrectionists 8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching :) 🖤
@duomerikissa3200
@duomerikissa3200 5 ай бұрын
Toto made Georgie Porgie song and I always wondered, where it came from
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