Canon R5 & R6 Review: GOOD Cameras. TERRIBLE Marketing.

[@mikemuponda1781]

I refuse to believe "undone" doesn't mean "sensei" in Japanese

[@rhykko77]

"GOOD Cameras. TERRIBLE Marketing" .......... I am in camera sales , and have a couple of decades of professional photography experience. I TOTALLY agree with what you have said .

[@therealjimmy5411]

Agree but I’ll add this. We can’t fully blame the marketing. Canon’s leadership pushed for that marketing and approved it. Canon’s leadership needs to be in serious question and primed for a major overhaul.

[@RealTechGeek]

@@therealjimmy5411 Absolutely drain the swamp of those old men! Bringing down the company, we young blood thinking!

[@SonerBaysal]

I cant understand how Gerald Undone is not overheating with this much information.🔥

[@JJShankles]

Gerald's mouth beats the R5 on output bit rate

[@daniellove162]

He wasn’t built by Canon?

[@evan.whobrey]

James Reind underrated comment right there ^

[@alex0589]

He records externally!

[@BreezeA]

😂👍🏽

[@michaelandrew83]

I’m not sure I can compare the effectiveness of any review of any kind of product I’ve ever seen to Gerald here. This is mind blowing how he can not only test these very specific tools to their utmost far limits and yet compress and deliver the analysis in such a concise and understandable package. A++ As a note, I am a professional photographer that does almost zero video for work. These cameras were not marketed to me. I don’t need anything new, I’m happy with my DSLR, however I do feel Canon marketing and product highlights in these cameras are very confusing. How can they on one hand, deliver 99% of what people hated about the R yet shoot themselves in the foot by offering features that are somewhat unusable? That’s not typically their MO, I have always looked to canon for their reliability and durability. They should stop trying to be something they are not.

[@andyakishev]

This is undoubtedly the best canon r5 and r6 review on the web, leaves no question unanswered staying neutral and unbiased at the same time👏👏👏 Gerald, I can’t stress enough how helpful and important your work is for photographers and videographers out there. Thank you for all your hard work.

[@chrisbrockhurst]

The encyclopedia of cameras by Gerald Undone. Seriously good work 👍🏻

[@DelusionalNYC]

This could be one of the most valuable videos on KZbin when you consider how Gerald is helping people avoid the financial costs and emotional toll associated with spending thousands of dollars on the wrong camera for their needs. It's a product review tour de force. Thank you!

[@snazzy]

This is without a doubt the best R5 review on the internet. Period. From beginning to end it is an excellent compendium of information. I’ve still got my R5 on order and I’m excited, but it looks like it’ll end up being less than the “everything cam” we were hoping for.

[@KaiTiura]

Agreed. I have my R5 and it's crazy good for photos. Haven't had a lot of video time yet, but don't need much video from it, and know all the limitations (especially after this video), so I know what to expect.

[@PunkImagin8tionX]

Best R5 review regarding video for sure

[@aradhyakumar7383]

And as always, stay snazzy. P.S. waiting on your 2020 Hackintosh video since the new iMac 27 is out!

[@vtcook]

I agree... and I don’t agree. It is a great review if you care about video. It is not a good review at all if you care about photography.

[@hugevibez]

@@vtcook this is Gerald Undone dude what did you expect?

[@vmakineni]

I've been hooked from the first minute. To hold someone's attention for a full 23 mins, all while delivering the amount of detail you did is truly outstanding!! Gerald, you are currently the No. 1 camera reviewer on KZbin!

[@SooTanGoo]

the intro jingle is my favorite thing to hum while im showering, watering flowers or trying to cut out background noise while taking a No.2

[@cameraconspiracies]

Rumor has it, taking the 1 photo to set custom white balance overheats the camera :)

[@geraldundone]

🤣🤣🤣

[@JF..]

Gerald Undone Wait, what? 😂🤣

[@jpemile]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 words can't describe how much I love your humour.

[@EmmeandEffe]

Rumor has it, overheating the camera overheats the camera 📸

[@RumourHasitYT]

Rumour has it !!

[@iangc6799]

Thank you for an excellent review. As an early adopter, I ordered my R5 on a 'wing and a prayer'; however still photography, and not video, is my artform. I am reassured by your opinion that, for a still photographer who already owns quality Canon glass (tick for both), this camera is a good choice. I have just charged the batteries, and will start exploring tomorrow. Looking forward to learning more from you in the future. Best wishes, Ian (Gold Coast, Australia).

[@hectorohh]

Don't usually watch 20+ minute videos from start to finsh, however, this was so well done and informative I thoroughly enjoyed it!

[@jamiewindsor]

Great review. I'm going to get the R5 because I like the look of Canon images and I need dual card slots because I photograph weddings (and cards have failed on me before). For video it'll suit my needs. I make KZbin videos in 1080p. I'm not about to shoot a feature film with it.

[@peshrawable]

We still watching your videos if it is 480p.

[@parthadeepbera479]

The great artist replying to the great reviewer . Thank you !!

[@GreenhornPhototaker]

@@peshrawable So true!

[@Tristan_Judkins]

Does the R5 shoot 1080? I didn't think they included 1080 at all in the R5?

[@philipbloom]

Brace man!

[@mark_pavlik]

So here's the thing. I find myself in a world of videographers and "KZbinrs" (not you Gerald) that have gotten so video focused it feels like it's almost ruining photography products because the camera companies are trying to appease both sides. Or appease more heavily towards the KZbinr. There are very few people who are clearly talking about just the photography side of things with these new products. It truly seems odd to me to buy a handheld camera to shoot production videos but that's not what I do for a living. I absolutely love the breakdown you have given to both sides equally and were so thorough. Your level of intelligence is pretty amazing when it comes to the ins and outs of some of these crazy specs and technical intricacies. You are very correct in saying that the marketing is terrible. I almost feel like I shouldn't buy these cameras for landscape photography because they are marketing in such a poor way. These companies are almost forgetting about the people who want to buy these cameras because they are fun to shoot with and take amazing photos. Thanks for the awesome review.

[@patrickchase5614]

Very nice overview. A few thoughts now that I have my R5: 1. Absolutely spot-on about marketing. This is not a video workhorse, and asking people like Johnnie Behiri (or you) to evaluate it as such was suicidal 2. The fact that the camera's recovery times aren't improved by cooling/heatsinking/etc suggests that their thermal-management firmware isn't very well optimized, or that they prioritized predictability (giving the same recovery time and time-to-shutdown every time) over allowing maximum usage. Hopefully they'll fix that or at least provide an alternative mode that allows you to run the camera closer to its true limits. 3. When you look at video DR using static compositions of a Xila chart, what you measuring in large part is the aggressiveness and quality of temporal denoising. Plenty of the DR measurements I've seen using this method have been physically impossible within a single exposure (i.e. there are not enough electrons per pixel to provide the stated DR without averaging across multiple frames) so it's clear that noise reduction is in play. BTW that also explains why C5D has consistently seen lower "DR" for raw modes than for in-camera ones using the same methodology. The NR is different and often less aggressive in a raw workflow. 4. The 6R isn't the only Canon body that can shoot 4K60 without overheating. The 1Dx3 can do that, though without AF in its oversampled full-frame mode. 5. I slapped on my trusty Sigma 18-35 and tried out the crop modes (which are automatically enabled with that lens) and they are quite good. 6. Photographic performance and handling are mind-blowing IMO.

[@mfmg1000]

Great video. I really enjoy how you break it down at the end. I've been a Canon EOS shooter since 1989 with the EOS 620. Now that I'm shooting more video, I've been wanting a mirrorless that is focused for video. After seeing Phillip Blooms A7s III review and now your video, I'm considering my first Sony camera purchase... crazy.

[@robinmc123]

Wow unbelievable the amount of information you got about these cameras in such a short time is just amazing. So very much appreciated. You need to be brought in on the design phase. I agree great camera poor marketing. Canon has a lot to be proud of in these cameras.

[@mmike855]

Loved this review, but might be good to compare it with the S1H? No overheating, IBIS, USB-C, etc. even the S1.

[@lupinearsenalALT]

Gerald, could you do a video comparing colour science and skin tones between R5/6 and a7siii. The latter has some extremely reliable video functions but to me the colors, while improved, seem less pleasant. A lot of youtubers butcher the colors with poor colour grading, so it’s hard to say how the Sony stacks up to Canon colour science.

[@MaxRovensky]

The way you make me listen to your sponsor spots are admirably despicable. I respect your skills.

[@tubevandaan]

Always respectful, always to the point! Thx so much! Your a true safe haven; clear, unbiased and very thorough testing...what a time spend...to find these conclusions. Undone from all marketing strats. Bare bottom line of a respectful truth....and canon should be very thankful for your insights.

[@Revan89]

Incredible thorough, practical and objective. Plus some humor here and there. Gerald, you are doing this KZbin thing so well. You have no competition.

[@KPGuitarStudios]

@Gerald Undone you made the perfect video, seriously. You said everything important, answered everything important and gave the most useful perspective possible. Your rock buddy!

[@gsanchez922]

Hello Gerald, If is possible for you to make a new video about the R5 and C70 since those camera have been enhanced from the time you created your original reviews?

[@liangzhao9378]

The physics-defining overheating and the long cool-down time really seem to be a software limitation at this point. Especially considering the fact that cool-down time is not affected by ambient temp. Perhaps this should be considered as a "feature" for protecting Canon's pro cine cameras.

[@tech-utuber2219]

No, all of the symptoms suggest thermal insulation of the internals with respect to conditions outside of the camera body.

[@allend6137]

It’s not that deep.. It’s simply the effect of the CRIPPLE HAMMER! Just Canon doing what they do. It’s all intentional. I can’t believe people are falling fo this 🤦🏻‍♂️. Canon laughs at you all 😂😂😂😂😂

[@joshblank1]

I was a Sony shooter but sold all my gear. I do still photography only. I hated the square body, bad grip (felt glued on), hated the materials, hated the ergonomics, colors, jpeg, shutter sound, lens mount, lenses, menus. I only liked tracking & eye AF, and dynamic range. I’m waiting for R6 or Z6s, that’s my camera

[@1young-geezer]

REMARKABLY well put together Gerald. You put it in a nutshell. I've been watching you progress through the Canons and Sony A7s III, and this video just puts the cherry on top. Thanks. I'll bookmark this specific video for re-watching when my R5 arrives - if ever! Pre-orders will certainly take a while to meet the product sloooow availability - but I don't blame anything or anyone - just hope my day comes, very excited. I'm a stills shooter, and am over the moon w/ your assessment regarding all things photographic.

[@spritual_enlightenment]

Good job, Gerald. I played at x .075, and was able to hear and understand you a lot better. I'm staying with a7S III for video work. 10bit UHD with less rolling shutter effect is all I want, and nothing more.

[@JasperTordilla]

I'm Gerald undone, and now i'm overheating.

[@georgiivanov4739]

*Gerald Canondone

[@poldivina27]

i'll keep mg bmpcc4k for video and upgrade mg 5div to r5 for photography and some hybrid shooting for travel. thanks for this!

[@captaintendean4116]

The man! The myth! The legend! In Gerald, we trust!

[@maruwaanmoses]

I bought the X-T4 today and ran a similar runtime test. These were the results: 4K 60fps at 200 Mbps recorded for 42 mins then shutdown with temp warning. I restarted the recording immediately after the record limit twice. 4K 24fps at 400 Mbps - filled up the 128gb with no overheating. Restarted the recording after time limits. No overheating in any of the 1080p modes. One more thing, the new battery lasted for 42 mins of 4K 60fps and 36 mins 4K 24 fps in total continuously. The camera was in boost mode with the IBIS enabled. I also ran my XT3 at the same time and noted it was consistently less warm than the XT4. Power consumption wise I used 5 batteries on the XT3 vs 2 batteries on the XT4.

[@ZachAshcraft]

Incredible helpful. I’m a photographer who occasionally shoots video. I’m happy with 1080p and occasional 4k. The R6 is the camera for me

[@ivankiefer3886]

Me too but im not happy with the 20mp I wish for the EOS r 30 mp into the r6.

[@saadrabia]

If you are mainly into 1080p and some occasional 4K, there are better options than these two cameras. The fact that they overheat when shooting RAW photos and still need up to 40 minutes of recovery time is absolutely disastrous for any type of photographer.

[@ZachAshcraftPhotography]

Saad Rabia I’m mainly into photography. So I’m fine with the video limitations

[@djecek]

Can't seen any other so detail review of these cameras on YT. Great job Gerald.

[@BasicFilmmaker]

Wow. Just wow. You are the camera review king IMHO. p.s. Please tell me you script these first. If you don’t, please lie. 😎

[@bioliv1]

Yes, never pre-order a camera before Undone is Done!

[@KevinBasicFilmmakerUnscripted]

@@bioliv1 LOL! True that! ^^^

[@Revan89]

@@bioliv1 I feel there is a catch phrase around that idea

[@kubagorajek1365]

That's the most amazing, straight to the point, detailed, no bullshit test I've ever seen on KZbin!

[@iandetenma]

These 20 minutes was soo good that I'm speechless... 22:45 wise words mann.... very wise...

[@stevecarver9179]

Well done. You squeeze a lot into a short time. Clearly you do thorough testing, and carefully write a script. I appreciate your focus on video features as that is most important to me.

[@peterlemke3468]

The community is indebted to you Mr G. Firstly for your thorough testing and secondly for your honesty and buying advice in your commentary. Possibly your best ever gear review.

[@ilkoallexandroff]

I’m all about photography, and the R5 is a great comeback from Canon! Cheers from Japan!

[@tianshuozhang]

Great review ! I am M50 user with some L lenses. I shoot still and video for my family 50% - 50%. For years I have been dreaming a FF camera: 20m + ibis + 1080p 120fps + fully tilt and touchable screen + nice color rendering. R6 will be my Christmas gift to myself, cheers !!

[@NoTicket]

So there are two possible explanations for Canons heat recovery times: 1. Canon has placed a software limitation on the recovery time to lower the operating time following a heat warning. 2. Canon has created a space time barrier surrounding the camera that prevents heat energy from leaving the dimensional planes in which the camera exists. Maybe it’s a mixture of the two.

[@jaysanchez4407]

All electronics have a central processing unit that is designed to protect itself from extreme heat

[@NoTicket]

Jay Sanchez hey Jay, yes I know. I agree with you on that. The problem is that the laws of physics are being defied through some mechanism which prevents cooling the camera externally with any real benefit. This camera seems to have the thermal characteristics of a Yeti cooler, rather than a 750g camera with how well it retains heat and resists cooling. Many have reported already that when the video “overheated” the camera is cool to the touch, and the fact that leaving the camera fully open, placing ice packs on it, make no difference means something weird is going on.

[@germandolgin]

3. canon tried to sell their garbage

[@allend6137]

It’s called the Cripple Hammer

[@eusenjo]

Maybe they insulated the camera so well from the outside heat that as a downside the heat inside is difficult to dissipate. Tony N. said that according to it’s test the overheating time doesn’t change so much when the camera is exposed to sunlight, meaning that probably is very sealed against heat.

[@generaltso9402]

Perhaps the best video/photography review I've seen. No annoying flash, sizzle, music or other BS. Just thorough analysis of pertinent features and specs, and great summary at the end.

[@LuisGomes.]

This video vas 100% perfect! well done... I just wanted to tell you because you deserve it... Gracias por tu tiempo (Thanks for your time) doing this video,,, it is the best review!

[@RumourHasitYT]

Got a spare few days to do it again with dummy battery and no card external 👍 4 hours expected

[@davidlongenecker9414]

I can't believe I'm gonna say it, but for me, the Sony is looking like a much better option

[@jeni719]

Camera, like any electronics, change so fast that what ever you buy looks ancient in 3 years. I was not impressed with Sony 3 years ago with the A7II, a camera I would have hated, but not with the A7III the best on the market.

[@digitalvizun5678]

I know...very tempting.

[@davidlongenecker9414]

@@jeni719 very true! I bought my gh5 a while ago and now it's left in the dust with all these full frame 4k 120 cameras. But at a certain point, I'm held back by the gh5, and the a7siii looks like it solves a lot of issues

[@alex0589]

That’s because it is...

[@derekv6479]

Imagine. Goodness I'm so glad I could give two s**** about video.

[@jamesnetherian4981]

Best review you can find on youtube about the R5 and R6. Honest af. I'm buying the R5 for photography and a tiny bit for video. Just a clip here and there maybe. 95% photography and 5% video. I will be fine.

[@kirk4517]

Hope you can someday do a test with different cooling gear with R5, like the Tilta one, and I see someone open up the R5, apply some thermal paste and get the same record time but a faster cool down time

[@DavidRoachJS]

You are the best reviewer, period. On the photo side would love R5 vs A7RIV and R6 vs A9II for wildlife and sports.

[@kn0ckamus]

Your intro says “he’s crazy”, but you’re literally the most sane person on KZbin lol

[@galexyphoto5725]

I'm so glad you mentioned that verge article. "obtuse" is way more kind than my comments about it.

[@ashutoshsharma328]

The long recovery cooling time is a major deal breaker - Sony is far better in this regard

[@chiscogti]

And Canon is infinitely better in photos and have 8k

[@ashutoshsharma328]

@@chiscogti Atleast it is not dead for an hour after mild usage😂

[@plisskenetic]

You don't know the Sony's shortcomings yet dude it's not even out yet lol

[@NoLifeDigital]

Excellent review as always. I do want to state, I haven't noticed IBIS issues at all. In fact, I'd say from my testing its the best I've seen on any camera. That said, I've seen multiple channels experience "warping" in the corners. I believe this may be due to one of the lens aberration settings? I'm still trying to reproduce this warping, but have failed to do so. So I guess YMMV.

[@camcamwatt]

Another master review! Thank you! I used the R5 for a year. We tired using them for live streams and other longer form content - they were a nightmare at times. Great for Vlogging and short form content creation though and they are amazing for photography indeed :)

[@KenFlanagan]

Excellent but a concern that this wasn’t apparent to everyone who had this camera in hand at the launch. Armando’s adventures in narrative drama seemed ridiculous from the start. Why???Beautifully summed up but this conclusion was surely never in doubt. It may be stating the bleeding obvious but it’s truly reassuring that you have done so so clearly where others seemed to have not. I would take issue that the alternative cinema option is the c300 or 500 as these surely are another league of camera and use case. Thanks again for your time and care.

[@AdrianBacon]

Also, I wish canon would realize that they could make most of the heat issues go away if they simply give us the option to record video without the camera rescaling it. So, for the R6, give us the option to just record 5.1K video in h.264/265. Don’t scale it down to 4K in the camera. On the R5, give us the option to record 1:1 pixel readout and let us choose the window capture size starting at 2K and going up from there, then either record that as raw or h.264/265 without rescaling it in camera. That way you can record ~5.1K super35 with the option to incrementally record higher video resolutions up to 8K, with the trade off of lower record times as you add resolution.

[@DonovinJones]

18:14 Yeahh that’s a deal breaker 🤣

[@alex0589]

Veldey Photos olympus!

[@jayorlino9163]

Thank you, Gerald Undone. I mostly shoot video with my Fujifilm XT3 and was looking @ the Fujifilm GFX 50S II to upgrade my gear (too bad that the GF35-70mm F4.5-5.6 WR kit lens is just so so). I also have a Canon 5D Mark 3 + a few beautiful Canon EF lenses! I only buy gear if I really need to. Your review persuaded me to get the R5 instead. Again, thanks!

[@dannygo4230]

Nice video. Any sane reason why it does not allow to record the 8K to an external recorder? The ability to record 8K for some 30 minutes (assuming 50% overheat time advantage) would be welcomed. Very useful for short clips, where you would want to do some extensive panning zooming in post, and without having to buy the expensive memory.

[@macska92]

After your A7S III review and now this you just gained yourself another subscriber. Keep up the good work, Gerald!

[@SpectreSoundStudios]

@9:46 12 Megapixels are plenty. Even for print. Thanks for bringing this up!

[@ManleyReviews]

didn't think I'd see Glenn here!

[@andrewenglishsc]

@@krane15 Don't know why I'm replying to this so late but I agree. I don't do much video but I do a lot of surf photography with a 5D IV and make my own prints + order large format prints. Printing on my 13" mediums? Fine, 12mp can make do. Any larger format prints and with the print tech we have today, 12mp ain't enough. That rule maybe applied back in the day but it's obsolete now (in my experience).

[@suhassamak4009]

Can we PLEASE have an undone review pinning the XT4 with the A7III? I'm having problems choosing between the two :(

[@ZaberAnsaryOfficial]

Great job Gerald. Still too much specs talk for my not so technical mind :p. Surprisingly much of the problems seemed like software problems rather than limited by hardware. So I do hope Canon is watching this video and taking notes 😅😅 and release firmware updates soon. Again, Great Review. 💝

[@estevanzamora]

I literally clapped out loud after your last bit about buying the right camera and not getting stuck by bad marketing. BRAVO!

[@sanghuloom6943]

Another way to test the Canon R5 specific overheating location (part of the camera body) is by using a thermal camera like the FLIR C3, etc. This will pinpoint the exact location of thr overheating part of the camera. We have one in the office but we don't have an EOS R5 and probably cant afford one. Haha 😄 I saw your comment in No Life's KZbin channel with his overheating test performed while removing the cf express card and recording internally via the atomos ninja v. Will you do another test about this?

[@TimothySunday]

*Goes and cancels R5 preorder...starts buying sony glass 😭

[@michaelbell75]

RF glass buries Sony, not even close. Have fun though lol

[@IgnacioDure]

Michael Bell are you serious?? Sony is the brand with one of the best lens ever made but sigma is better than both of this

[@EugeniaLoli]

​@@michaelbell75 This is true. Canon glass is cheaper and better than Sony's, more models, faster and with IS. This is all true. BUT. Their cameras suck for videos. I rather get a Sony A7S III with a basic cheap zoom, and then use a passive EF adapter to use my (many) Canon lenses. I prefer that option than having to deal with Canon's crippled video. And I don't even mean overheating. There are way too many little problems with video mode, very few options too. The Sony has the software and option availability ready for us videographers. It's just missing the lenses.

[@michaelbell75]

nacho dure sorry but you need to do some research. Start with the F Stoppers test where only ONE of the top 8 Sony lenses could even resolve 47 megapixels on the 61 megapixel a7RIV. The others couldnt even come close. Sony lenses are a joke compared to RF glass.

[@EugeniaLoli]

​@@michaelbell75 I personally do not care one iota about resolving power of lenses. I shoot music videos and narrative films, so relative softness is what I'm actually after. It would save me from using a softening filter on set. That's why the bulk of my shoots is with vintage lenses anyway. From the modern lenses, when I need them for run & gun, I only care about AF/aperture speed and IS. If they have to sacrifice quality to get me those, I'm very much good with it. Resolving power is more important in photography, or corporate/product videography. I don't take such jobs.

[@noelchignell1048]

I’m not into video and I’m really sick of all the focus on the video aspects of these cameras but this Gordon Undone is excellent and it’s a shame there’re no reviews of this calibre on the stills aspects of these cameras

[@PremiumLeo]

As a hobbyist photographer, I understood about 30% of what he was saying ^_^ Achievement unlock please ;)

[@TheHouseOfEstest]

When I want an honest, straightforward and information dense review... I get Undone!

[@MalteAaronVeh]

Without the overheating these would literally be the PERFECT cameras 😢

[@NirnBootMod]

Nope... they would still have a record limit for no good reason.

[@RockyMaiviaMiami]

Magick Metaphysics absolutely no reason

[@MalteAaronVeh]

@@NirnBootMod true, but thats something i'd be much more willing to accept than having to wait for hours until it cools down

[@NirnBootMod]

@@MalteAaronVeh Yes, but not everyone can use a camera that shuts off every 30 min. There are certain situations I need to record for hours straight.

[@trym2121]

Don't worry. With whatever term you throw, Canon Cripple Hammer will always follow closely

[@philipbloom]

Jeez, how much did Sony pay you to make this? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Seriously though that was very good but depressing as hell for someone who has just bought an R5! 😂

[@stevenstevensteven4]

Shouldn’t you be working on R5 The Movie, instead of surfing the web ?

[@philipbloom]

stevensteven no thanks. Rather be doing what I choose to do. Thank you.

[@philipbloom]

stevensteven I think I am allowed some time off :don’t you think?

[@stevenstevensteven4]

Philip Bloom time off ! How dare you ...

[@stevenstevensteven4]

Philip Bloom love you

[@MyBernis]

You are the best English speaking KZbinr currently. Period. Not Brand driven and always honest. Keep on going.!

[@WesPerry]

I’m definitely the wrong customer. *gets comfortable*

[@stevenbaileytv]

I suppose there's a type of shooter you didn't mention really in your summary: people who own canon cinema cameras already and need smaller b-cameras. For me, the R5 seems like it could be a perfect match to my C200. Ninja V for b-cam interviews (no different than what I'm doing with my current EOS R), but also the ability to grab some specialty shots in raw (care very little about the 8K, just the fact that it's raw video) to pair with the raw from the C200. I suspect a lot of the presales are from owner/operators of cameras from the cinema lineup. These types of hybrid cameras, in general, don't really work for me as A cameras, and never have. I'm probably going to rent the R5 and see how I like it, but ultimately wait to see if they release any rumored R-mount cinema cameras. Those might end up being a better fit.

[@TimMug]

Glad to have found this channel when new to photography / videography, love getting undone with these things.

[@ZaneSherif]

hi mate, thanks again for another deep dive. it is this attention to detail and getting granular on a subject that has made you the premier go to channel for camera info. anyway, could you make a chart of your preferred video settings on the R5 with a short brief on best use scenarios? cheers. zane

[@KendrickDischCreative]

I don't see how you could do this without a teleprompter, but your delivery and eye movement doesn't seem like a teleprompter. Either way... F*ing fantastic work you do! Cheers!

[@ArifKhan.]

You know what's more impressive than a 8K camera that doesn't over heat? Gerald's ability to test, review, analyze and present tech.

[@gillesvanleeuwen]

@3:37. My R6 will overheat if recording externally with a Ninja in 4K25. That is in a 'hot' environment like +25c.

[@caseybachmeyer]

what about dynamic range in raw clog2?

[@jhellier]

one of the annoyances with the r5 (besides the inflated price and overheating) is that it needs to be customized much more heavily than a dslr to be enjoyable to use. If the body was alittle bigger it would allow an improved button layout. im still puzzled by the lack of a mechanical mode dial, no other camera company has removed it on their high end cameras. the electronic mode dial is a PITA to press - its just as bad as the touchbar imo. also BBAF feels a bit awkward due to the recessed feel of the AF on button, the info, Q and zoom buttons are a bit small and cramped, and the rotary dial feel too minaturised (make sure you trim your fingernails before shooting). There are too many buttons on the right side of the camera, it just doesn't "feel" right to me. The camera will definitely produce great results but I can't help but feel the usability has been compromised. It feels more like an expensive consumer level camera than a professional tool like the 5d4. Canon seems to be prioritizing aesthetics and compactness over function and usability, and somebody there is making really bad design decisions. Its seems like the team that designed the pro DSLR bodies (5d4, 1dx3) had zero input for the RF bodies. The extending zoom mechanism of the rf 70-200 2.8 is too cumbersome for shooting sports. I'm curious to see the body design of the R1, the rumoured professional level body. if they get that right it would give me hope that things could change in the future bodies.

[@valladares9045]

Great review Gerald. I am a wedding filmaker. Imagine to get an overheat in the middle of the outdoor ceremony, you acting like you are filming the moment but the camera needs to cold down, she is delicate, no one knows the problem, everyone smiles at you, they don't know. You arrived home with stress, all your investment on the fkn 3.9999 body and 2.299 50 1.4 and you didn't get the moment, you can't pay rent that month because of the insane canon overpricing products, the heat in your body starts rising up too and then, you will need some time to cold down too before you call your clients to tell them about the problem. You lose part of the money, everyone talks about the cameraman that didn't récord the most important moment of their life, and your life ends up in a terrible overheat depresión post camera overheat. Your Psychiatrist recommends you to travel to Antarctica and stay there with the R5 for a while. Thinks AS7III will win the Battle in weddings and other áreas for sure, cheaper, so many good and cheap lenses, a great brand behind. I think for weddings R5 will not be the best 4k camera, for other things, photography will be an amazing option no doubt about it.

[@positronicbrains]

Over heating is a pita. All the sony a7 series has this issue on 4k, including filming outside this summer on my a7siii. Sad to see canon has this heat issue too. I've resorted to cooling packs around the chassis. Anyway dslrs have never been true workhorses, people just hallucinated them to be. The bmpcc 6k has treated me well for a video workhorse at a very fair price.

[@Poik242]

One thing that I haven't really seen talked about is how the APS-C crop mode for the R6 works. Is this a 1.6x crop that is then upscaled to 4k, resulting in low quality, or is it a 1:1 readout with 1.43x crop? If it's the 1.43x, do EF-S lenses even work for 4k recording on the R6, or is the vignetting terrible? In the manual it clarifies the 1.6x crop for stills in crop mode, but it doesn't specifically say for movie recording.

[@ramonbril]

Fantastic review, so much work has been put in it and the information here is great.

[@nGz12]

Great review! As a long exposure photographer, I'm a little bit concerned about the overheating issue. I have not seen anyone tlak about it yet (but I don't know if anyone tested it either..). Do you have any idea regarding that?

[@mathew_pang]

Can R6 output 10bit 422 color for FHD through Ninja V ? Any master here know about it ?

[@thenightowl5438]

curious too

[@FedorAntony]

I’m curious how the Canon R5 compares to the Panasonic S1R from a photography perspective. There are some pretty good deals on the S1R now...

[@SonOfInfernum]

14:22 Which LUT from the Canon EOS R page should we use? There are tons of LUTs in the folder: 3d luts, 1d luts, 17 grid, 65 grid etc.

[@chesed]

This video-centric review and Gordon Laing's photography-centric review paints a pretty complete picture of the R5 and R6. Good stuff. Cheers.

[@TheOgach]

Absolutely stunning review ! 👏🏻 Well done ! I just wonder: any overheating issue using 1080p modes? Yes, some of us still us this resolution... 😅 Thanks a lot!

[@RBztudio]

Honestly one of the best R5/R6 reviews mate.. well done.. I'm real estate photographer 60% photos 40% videos.. and also im doing food and landscape photography, which one should I go R5 or R6???

[@BarttRoman]

Gerald: I'm done Me: still manually breathing

[@suprat49]

I don’t know how, but somehow, Gerald Undone always answers all my questions before I’ve even thought of them.

[@JonPais]

Gerald switched things up and did a pre-emptive livestream first this time. ❤️ Great review as always.

[@SMoeun-zs9ji]

Because the First 8K sounds unique that it is easy for the marketers to brand a camera, but they may find it hard to highlight the uniqueness in photography to be distinguished from the current cameras in the market.

[@AlejandroMaagno]

This video is the video of videos. All you need to know about the R5 and R6. Great analysis and excellent conclusion. Those giving you thumbs down are clearly ignorant. Goodbye.

[@exhalestories]

I like your videos so much that I watch them in 1.5 playback speed. Thank you so much. It's extremely disappointing that R6 doesn't support dual card video recording.

[@RogerAVHansen]

I know Canon M6 mark ii isn’t a high end camera like the EOS R, R5, R6, A7S3 and so on.. but have you ever tried it, tested it and maybe thought about making a video about it and it’s big brother, Canon 90D?