GERMANIC: OLD SAXON & OLD HIGH GERMAN

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[@MohamatYosafi]

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[@rudmillahnowrin9151]

True

[@rudmillahnowrin9151]

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[@marcquestenberg8385]

Old High German sounds much more melodic than modern German. Similar to a mix of Frisian, Dutch and Swedish language and dialect.

[@john.premose]

Are you sure she's pronouncing it properly?

[@aroma13]

It's because the speaker isn't familiar with phonetic vowel length,so they over extend the long vowels,and make awkward pauses after the short vowels,making the language sound more ,,sing-songy" then it was

[@prismaticc_abyss]

I speak both German and english, these I could both mostly understand, especially with the text being displayed. Though both of them to me are made understandable through german, not through english.

[@Hamzachebbi137]

Nice video 😍😍💪

[@789Dd]

Good morning! Old Saxon and Old High German are two different stages of the Old German language, but they are not mutually convertible. Both variants originate from Old Germanic, which was the language spoken by the Germanic peoples before the 5th century. Old Saxon, also known as Old Low German, was spoken by Saxons in what is now northern Germany, while Old High German was spoken in what is now southern Germany. While these two variants share some similarities and linguistic roots, they have developed in different directions over the centuries. Because of this, Old Saxon and Old High German are considered different languages ​​and are not mutually intelligible. Therefore, a person who speaks Old Saxon would not be able to understand or communicate easily with someone who speaks Old High German.

[@lodewijkvandoornik3844]

Old Saxon is not an old stage of the German language. Old high German is. But not old Saxon.

[@theChaosKe]

In a way it is, as old saxon and old high german would have been considered dialects of the same language before the high german consonant shift occured (finished at 750 AD). It split into a low and a high variant from then on. Similar to how the frankish language split into low franconian (modern dutch) and high franconian (dialects of high german). @@lodewijkvandoornik3844

[@waltergro9102]

Historical Linguistics is in favor of mutual intelligibility of West Germanic dialects, like Old Saxon and Old High German. Old High German is the subgroup of dialects that evolved by the Old High German Consonant shift. They differ vastly because the northern ones have only incomplete shift and also experienced some North Sea Germanic innovations like "he" or "her" instead of "er". They developed into the Central German dialects. The dialects with complete High German Consonant Shift but without North Sea Germanic innovations evolved into Upper German dialects. Both are subsumed under High German dialects. The High German Consonant Shift doesn't necessarily imply the loss of mutual intelligibility. That came later (ca. AD 800) by many small changes in pronunciation and the meaning of words fuelled by increasing isolation of farming communities. But the dialectal differentiation of continental West Germanic didn't prevent the popular conception that they all belong to the German language. The sound shifts matter neither in popular nor in scientific opinion (except in respect of Dutch since the establishment of the Dutch standard language). My mother spoke southern Low Rhenish that belongs to East Low Franconian but is and was always called Low German. It's southern neighbor is Ripuarian (scientifically belonging to West Central German, but historically and in popular opinion to Low German). Because southern Low Rhenish was influenced by the Ripuarian of Cologne (Kölsch) they sound similar but Low Rhenish has almost no High German Consonant Shift while Ripuarian has already much more but incomplete (Central German). They are mutually intelligible and speakers of both regard them one and the same dialect (belonging to Low German). I pointed to the many differences concerning the High German Consonant Shift, like maken vs machen, röpt vs röfft and many more. My mother just said: "that doesn't matter, it's the same". The importance of the High German Consonant Shift is way overrated, at least in the case of neighboring similar dialects. Of course it's different between Low German respectively northwestern Central German on the one side and Upper German on the other side.

[@christinemaria0815]

thank you very interesting 🙏 you should also make a video Old High German vs. Old High Frankish

[@waltergro9102]

In the course of the early Middle Age Old Franconian differentiated into Old Low Franconian (Dutch and Low Rhenish) without the High German Consonant Shift and Central and Rhine Franconian with High German Consonant Shift. The latter are subsumed under Old High German together with East Franconian, Alemannic and Bavarian. Old Low Franconian and contemporary Central Franconian are only badly documented in the Early Middle Age. Only Rhine Franconian is well documented.

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[@elvyn8709]

Both sounds corresponded to written than Modern German.

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[@guernica5413]

Around when were these languages spoken? I'm not an expert on clothes, but the vibes of the characters are from before the middle ages

[@marcquestenberg8385]

4-11 century. In northern and central Germany down to the Alps.

[@guernica5413]

​@@marcquestenberg8385thank you

[@waltergro9102]

Old High German is the group of dialects that evolved from West Germanic by the action of the High German Consonant Shift. But there were more sound shifts and the "High Franconian" dialects (Central and Rhine Franconian) were different from East Franconian, Alemannic and Bavarian. The first group had North Sea Germanic innovations (like "he" or "her" instead of "er" - thus equivalent to Old Saxon and Old Dutch), the latter had them not. They were spoken during a large part of the Early Middle Age.

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[@222TK]

🔆🔅Old Saxon, Old Anglo-Saxon, and Old High German are all different stages of the Old Germanic language, which was spoken in Central and Western Europe between the 5th and 12th centuries. These three linguistic variants are related and have a common origin, but they also have significant differences. Old Saxon was spoken in the region of Saxony in present-day Germany and was one of the main variants of West Germanic. Old Anglo-Saxon, in turn, was spoken in England, especially in the regions of Anglia, Saxony and Jutland. Both variants are linguistically close and share many common elements and words. High German was spoken in areas of what is now Germany, Austria and Switzerland, among others. It is considered an offshoot of West Germanic, but had a separate evolution from Old Saxon and Anglo-Saxon, mainly due to Latin influences. It is important to emphasize that these linguistic variants evolved over time and gave rise to different modern languages. Old Saxon and Old Anglo-Saxon are considered to be ancestors of Low German and Angleish, respectively, while High German evolved into Modern German.🔆🔅

[@sentboumaster3436]

Modern German is basically based on Upper Saxon German dialect from Free State of Saxony just like how Italian is based on Florentine Tuscan from Tuscany

[@Ndsfrees]

Old Saxon was spoken in northern Germany. Today's "saxony" has nothing to do with the original saxons.

[@john.premose]

High German for the win any day. Low German is rubbish and so are the Scandy lingos. Tiresome, all of those. High German is just plain better. Idcwys

[@john.premose]

​@@NdsfreesSaxony is in northern Germany. Please stop igmorance.

[@Ndsfrees]

@@john.premose ik, read what I've written

[@mahdiyarabbasi3800]

This is better than German today

[@indedgames4359]

No surprise saxon evolfed. They added so much someone eventuly relised other languageswher easier lol

[@MrAllmightyCornholioz]

Old Saxon sounds like an Englishman speaking Old German.

[@brittibeeper]

In a way, that’s correct lol

[@Lampchuanungang]

🫂💙💋🌹

[@CinCee-]

Now do Old Saxon & Old English

[@autumnphillips151]

Already did that.

[@CinCee-]

@@autumnphillips151 Did she? I gotta check it out

[@autumnphillips151]

@@CinCee- Yep, two days ago.

[@lateblossom]

Old Saxon even sounds a bit Italian.

[@rafiabatool2542]

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[@bluebaum2.7.16]

Old Saxon is straight up elvish.

[@rafiabatool2542]

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[@user-nc5yc9es6j]

The sentences don't look that similar.

[@autumnphillips151]

Well, they’re different languages. And one is an Ingvaeonic/North Sea Germanic language, whereas the other is Erminonic/Elbe Germanic. Their descendants are probably closer to each other, though, because they’ve been in much closer contact for many centuries.

[@MLeon-ip7ii]

As a German speaker I understand both languages and I say they just use different words to say the same things. So they sound more different than they actually are! In fact, they are close to each other.

[@kamrankhan-lj1ng]

​​@@MLeon-ip7iiOld policy of Andy. I would rather have two versions of similar languages as those are normally and naturally spoken, not two deliberatlely distant versions.

[@ProblematicSloth666]

That’s because the text is completely different in the first place. Weird to do that. They were mutually intelligible.

[@waltergro9102]

Several different sentences. Not equivalent.

[@tavrinon]

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[@lumethecrow2632]

​@@LeroyUrocyon Germanic: Icelandic Faroese Norwegian Swedish Danish Jutlandic Scanian Elfdalian Gotlandic Low Saxon West Frisian East Frisian North Frisian Dutch Luxembourgish German Bavarian Austrian Alsatian These are just the ones I remember

[@lumethecrow2632]

@@LeroyUrocyon I think you mean survive

[@user-qh4dr1vy9d]

French has its roots in Frankish, not in Gaulish.

[@tavrinon]

@@user-qh4dr1vy9d French is a romance language, therefore, Latin origin. From the Latin root, the other influences come from the Occitan, Gaulish, Provencal and Germanic dialects. I put the flag of France to refer to the continental Celts

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[@human8454]

Nothing similar to Sanskrit.

[@angelicart.6]

ok?

[@abelstropicalfruit8647]

We’re still a few thousand years away from a common ancestor. No need to comment this.

[@human8454]

​@@abelstropicalfruit8647it's a fact balto slavic languages are more similar mainly number's.

[@michaelcalle2981]

@@abelstropicalfruit8647 And we look nothing alike and our languages are nothing alike, Indo European is a term that has been added when the Greeks went went as far as India.

[@human8454]

​​​@@michaelcalle2981iam taking about languages only.i speak English that doesn't mean I am from UK.this is an linguistic channel not about ancestry or genetics.