Gerry Conway Blames Boys for Birds of Prey Flop

[@cyanidejunkie]

Fems: Sorry boys... this ain’t for you! Men: ok, see ya. Fems: wait... where you going? Bigots!

[@nooneofimportance2110]

Did anyone actually know this movie was coming out before it hit theaters?

[@JesusRuiz-gb4is]

@@nooneofimportance2110 i saw a trailer of it but when i saw "that" joker i was reminded why i didn't lile suicide squad so i just avoid it like the plague not knowing Harley and that joker broke up lol

[@nooneofimportance2110]

@@JesusRuiz-gb4is I didn't see that trailer, only the release trailer. Maybe it's just me, but it felt like there was barely any promotion for the film at all.

[@JesusRuiz-gb4is]

@@nooneofimportance2110 yeah I mean after that ad i never saw a single one like as if it only exsited to fade away which im glad i never saw more as much as this movie is bad its mostly what its from that made me wanna avoid it aka suscide squad i didn't want what they where dishing out it wasn't pleasing at all

[@nooneofimportance2110]

@@JesusRuiz-gb4is True, but still my point remains, you only saw the one? That is really weird, isn't it? Like almost no marketing for the movie, even Sonic got way more marketing, and it's .... well Sonic.

[@nevernottrash4974]

"no one went because Harley wasn't naked" The joker: shows a scene of stairs. 1 billion dollars in box office

[@crusaderknight915]

I wanted to watch joker for that

[@JohnTheLobsterMan]

Those stairs are marked as a religious place on google maps Edit: They actually used to be a religious place, but it was changed to a historical landmark

[@BluePhoenix_]

@@JohnTheLobsterMan praise the joke!

[@draconshot928]

@@JohnTheLobsterMan i know i'm 3 months late but this is how we start the joker cult and we all end up like those guys in batman beyond

[@rhyscallinan4402]

And that's the Killing Joke.

[@fulltimelegend6853]

"Boys only like films with superpowers or sexual stuff" Yeah because i just watched Joker for the one bath scene that lasted 15 seconds

[@newperve]

Yeah GMILFS rule! Oh wait you were being ironic. Yeah, um, so was I! Yeah that'll work.

[@unclecreed2986]

I don't know anybody would watch films for sexual stuff anymore porn is super assessable.

[@silverdays2909]

@@unclecreed2986 porn for the win bois

[@infamouscooper9286]

I also love Joker dancing in the stairs doing pelvic thrust.

[@Legendary_Detective-Wobbuffet]

@@newperve the phrase would be DILFs.

[@calemr]

Sonic the hedgehog features a mixed race marriage shown in a positive light without being pandering or acting like that's a big deal. Sonic the hedgehog is even better at progressive politics.

[@tomtoken627]

Sonic the Hedgehog has had a diverse cast, for as long as I can remember. They got a blue guy, a red guy, a black guy, a yellow guy, a sexy as hell bat lady, and a pink lady. The bad guy is even white, should be an SJW wet dream.

[@SpinyPuffs]

@@tomtoken627 but there has to be a """"""""subtle"""""""" commentary on how Eggman represents the oppressive alt-right and so on and leftist bullshit.

[@nottoofast]

@@nonymouswisp8176 he's actually eight Even worse

[@ohmyoof3pizzaman205]

The best part is that is he also a sjw feminist.

[@Dylan-qs3ev]

@@nonymouswisp8176 prison

[@ZestyStupidGirl]

Everyone here talking about how the movie bombing isn't a surprised but I'm over here shocked that Just Some Guy is nearing 40! That voice did, indeed, fool me!

[@MrSuperbeast92]

Holy shit!! 🤯

[@blankpage9277]

He probably doesn't look a day over 25 either!

[@ZestyStupidGirl]

@Assoluto Cosmico Same! He doesn't anywhere near his actual age at all!

[@juniorjunior5884]

I am shook!

[@Lordpoison67]

I'm about his age and if I shave my beard I get I.D.ed, so not that surprised.

[@vladimiravich7260]

Director: "This movie isn't for Yoooouuuuu!" Men: "okay!" Director: *surprise pikachu face*

[@YeagerBomb-ww3bn]

Says the film isn't for men, then blame men for the film failing. SJW logic is no logic at all.

[@Muck006]

... even when the majority of people who actually watched the move were men.

[@lostsnowman127]

I offer a cipher ᴍᴇɴ ᴍᴜꜱᴛ ᴏʙᴇʏ. ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴍᴜꜱᴛ ʙᴇ "ɢᴏᴏᴅ ᴀʟʟɪᴇꜱ" ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴍᴜꜱᴛ ꜱɪᴛ ᴅᴏᴡɴ, ꜱʜᴜᴛ ᴜᴘ, ᴀɴᴅ ᴇɴᴊᴏʏ ᴡʜᴀᴛ ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴀʀᴇ ꜰᴇᴅ. ꜱᴛᴀɴᴅᴀʀᴅꜱ ᴀʀᴇ ᴛʜᴇ ᴇɴᴇᴍʏ ᴏꜰ ᴛʜɪꜱ ᴀɢᴇɴᴅᴀ ᴀɴᴅ ᴡᴏʀʟᴅᴠɪᴇᴡ. ɪɴᴅɪᴠɪᴅᴜᴀʟɪꜱᴛɪᴄ ᴀᴜᴛᴏɴᴏᴍʏ ɪꜱ ᴛʜᴇ ᴇɴᴇᴍʏ ᴏꜰ ᴛʜɪꜱ ᴀɢᴇɴᴅᴀ ᴀɴᴅ ᴡᴏʀʟᴅᴠɪᴇᴡ. ɪᴛ ᴏɴʟʏ ᴅᴏᴇꜱɴ'ᴛ ᴍᴀᴋᴇ ꜱᴇɴꜱᴇ ʙᴇᴄᴀᴜꜱᴇ ʏᴏᴜ'ʀᴇ ɴᴏᴛ ᴛʜɪɴᴋɪɴɢ ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴀɴ ᴀᴜᴛʜᴏʀɪᴛᴀʀɪᴀɴ ʙᴇɴᴛ ᴏɴ ᴄʀᴇᴀᴛɪɴɢ ᴀ ɢᴜʟᴀɢ, ɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍɪɴᴅ ᴏꜰ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴠɪᴄᴛɪᴍ.

[@komocakeps527]

nah, they're saying its not for MEN but they are blaming BOYS. there's still some semblance of logic. at least a thread's worth of logic.

[@BlueBD]

Yet the majority of watchers are men

[@alsovan6791]

@@komocakeps527 It's PG-R. What "boys" exactly?

[@mjhernandez984]

"Boys only like Sci-fi action and sexual stuff" ...Ah yes cuz I definitely want to see shirtless kylo ren in woke star wars

[@fedegibsonlespaul]

Reading your comment made me think about it. I cringed whe I saw shirtless Kylo, but why? Is it because I find disgusting a shirtless man in a movie? And then it hit me: we've seen hundreds of shirtless men movies: lot of them have Arnold and Sly, or an action hero or martial artist, and then you have sports like boxing, mma, etc, and I never noticed, I never cared. Why is this different? Why shirtless Kylo made so many of us cringe? I come to think is because is so goddamn pulled out of context, so unjustified, so obvious, almost like something Austin Powers would do, and it felt like he'd done it to try to impress this teen girl Rey and hit on her, it felt kinda pedo/sexual assault. "Ima fight you naked, young girl, avoid touching my sweaty chest, or else..."

[@NeptuneRjo]

@@fedegibsonlespaul I dont think the point of showing Kylo shirtless was to try to push "that GROWN MAN is hitting on her guys look, new starwars romance for you all to follow". Kylo and Rey are pretty much the same age and Kylo had no idea he was going to be seen by her. The whole point of showing him shirtless was to prove that their connections were random and unexpected by both.

[@spritekingjay]

why is kylo ren so w i d e

[@mjhernandez984]

The real question is...why are people still replying to this comment? (Yes I know no one was asking a question)

[@pablom-f8762]

@ivan ivanovitch ivanovsky pants were so high I thought he was mocking Bruce Lee.

[@Adorni]

**sighs** Why, exactly, did the costume designer think that that outfit was a better look for Black Canary? And who was the genius who said “Let’s make the character with the name ‘Black Canary, a Black Woman? That’s not going to come across as a stupid decision!” Black Canary has one of the best outfits in comics, period. It’s simple, it’s memorable, and it invokes a sense of confidence, power, and yes, sexiness. Because - a little trivia for you - confidence is a major quality of sexiness. You have to have the ability to present an air of “I look damn good in this, and I don’t care what anyone else thinks.” This goes for men, as well. Anyone remember Will Smith’s line in Men in Black? “You know the difference between me and you? _I_ make this look *good.”*

[@jamjamg4898]

Finally someone who agrees. I was thinking the same thing.

[@javonyounger5107]

Kinda the opposite of what they did with Black Lighting, where they made the lighting he makes dark in color to kinda remove the racial aspects of his name.

[@ardendragoon]

Robbie, it's her production company. It's funny, she was the one to pick the outfit in SS. Them the. Twatter bluehairs, and woke media attacked. She had to please them. So she went "male gaze" woke. Feminist writer, etc. They always make the females ugly.

[@Adorni]

@@DemonicRemption I would much rather have had someone who looked the part definitely. But if the supposed "issue" (which it shouldn't be) is "Well, we already have a blonde, blue-eyed woman already," then... fine. That's not a good excuse, mind you, but fine. However, I saw someone illustrate a picture of this actress as Black Canary, and if they had made her look more like that? I would have been okay with it! Here, look: preview.redd.it/fym9h7hqc5341.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=c3bd0cb214ac535792166f53fe97f495db2361bc That, at least, would have been something of a compromise?

[@roguepoison]

@@Adorni that picture of her would've been SUCH a better concept than what they did to her.

[@codeviper8665]

"Don't let the voice fool you--I'm almost 40" Wait, what?

[@sageangelica2576]

I thought he was in his early twenties lol

[@spunge5989]

I thought he was joking

[@greenrandall143]

Sage Angelica yeah me to

[@MaverickChristian]

His voice and his comic persona made me think he was way younger. Apparently he's about my age.

[@lilchip3280]

@@sageangelica2576 same😅😅

[@geekybugle4241]

BoP> "This film isn't for you!" People> "Fine, then we won't see it" BoP> "How dare you!"

[@fedegibsonlespaul]

And then: "I can't believe you've done this"

[@notkingali1798]

“You weren’t supposed to do that”

[@MrAyybee2cold]

NotKing Ali 🤣🤣🤣

[@captcrais101]

I liked Huntress in the movie. The rest of the characters I hated, makes me wish Bruce Timm made a animated BOP movie.

[@geekybugle4241]

@@captcrais101 I hated every character, the "good guys" & the bad guys. I especially hated what they did to my girl Cassandra Cain (Best Batgirl fight me bro). Agreed on Bruce Timm, but without the intervention of Jar Jar Abrahams, the guy from Teen Titans Go! or any other of the filth WB hired to make the new superman cartoon.

[@soylentteal]

Just announced, another name change: Now called "Harley's Angels."

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

What’s funny is that most of the people that I know who watched this movie are males, who watched it because Margot Robbie is a cutie.

[@Studmuf-Rockin]

I swear we have the same likes, see you everywhere

[@SciFi4MeTV]

I read the stat that men made up 54% of the people who actually went.

[@enjamessimpson]

Was*

[@kittenbursworthy9613]

Mista Scott Who tf decided it was a good idea to make it look like she just clocked out of her side gig in sewer system maintenance and forgot to take off the rubber yellow overalls?

[@blankpage9277]

Her being attractive is news to me. I guess we all have our tastes, though.

[@michaelr20010713]

"The success of suicide squad..." I'm sorry, did I somehow end up in an alternate reality where suicide squad didn't suck?

[@theenderdestruction2362]

No it sucks but I would rather watch that then this cause atleast a bit of the music is good

[@julianseguin2748]

Dude, it made $748 million! That's more than three times the gross of Birds of Prey! Regardless of the film's quality, it was a success.

[@michaelr20010713]

Julian Seguin Right, I forgot the people who make the decisions can only see in numbers

[@R_Forde]

The animated movie was pretty good.

[@danaberg6354]

People actually liked the Extended Cut better than the theatrical cut. There are rumors the actual complete movie (Ayer Cut) is being kept from release by WB. With the Zack Snyder Justice League fiasco and WB cutting many movies for shorter run times it would surprise me that fans haven't seen the complete Suicide Squad movie.

[@kittenbursworthy9613]

Director forgot about the “female gaze” of the female gays

[@zacharygadzinski3147]

@Maxx Kroes Well women do like to see an image that they find beautiful. So it's more of an admiration envy thing more or less. Same with guys who like seeing buff dudes. Men just crave the look for themselves.

[@MrDevious88]

They could have avoided this issue if they had her dress up like a Harlequin clown. You know, what the character's original appearance was like.

[@hardromeo436]

@Maxx Kroes exactly. My girlfriend's reaction to the trailer was "omg they look frumpy"

[@nooneofimportance2110]

Did anyone actually know this movie was coming out before it hit theaters?

[@Bluesit32]

@@MrDevious88 Ehhh...it has too much of a "I'm the sidekick" vibe. She's supposed to be making a name for herself. She needs to look tough.

[@coolbeans3752]

The only tragic scene was when, Harely dropped that egg sandwich. It didn't even have the chance for ANY, character development. What a rip.

[@Ilovegrunge123]

Huntress had potential for character development but they ruined all the emotional scenes by having Harley voice over them with her horrible accent and also having some lame jokes after. Huntress is the only one I would like to see a solo movie after birds of prey.

[@SansoHumar]

Yes. That sandwich did look delicious. I watched it on hbomax and that’s the only part I was crying. NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! I was hungry

[@cullenderoche1589]

These birds better pray for their budget back

[@henneymannn]

Oof

[@TSPH1992]

They are going to need a bag of ice

[@Tailsisacrybaby]

Very funny, I laughed

[@Gregornmy]

LMAO

[@johngancarcik5682]

@@TSPH1992 no amount of ice will cool that burn

[@ayyylmao101]

9:44 I almost spit my coffee out at this, dude, LMAO So I _wasn't_ the only one who noticed her weird looks at Peter in Endgame...

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

Don't forget the actress that played Alita. Like Gal, she was charming and didn't try to antagonize the audience and for that, the woke crowd tried to slander her and even shamed her body by saying that she and Alita were using it to lure in pedophiles simply because she and the character she portrays are petite. The most sexists people I have seen in this argument are the progressives because if there is one thing that they hate, it's men and woman getting along and enjoying things together. What they want is power to manipulate and skew things off to their personal favors while at the same time they do not take up the mantle of 'leaders' as they demand us to call them because the refuse to take responsibilities for their own failing, something that actual leaders do. It's over. The movie tanked and people are more interested in a blue hedgehog than what some loud mouth with blue hair wants to lecture to us.

[@sarahcanibell69]

Nail meet head!!! And I really want to take my 5 year old son to see Sonic. I think he will love it, his adhd energy needs a new excuse to be burned off.

[@humblemarty]

They blamed men for the movie bombing yet 54% of the audience who went to see Birds of Prey is men. Heck those guys were the centrists who gave the balanced thoughts on the movie.

[@Raycheetah]

@@sarahcanibell69 I won't pay one thin dime to watch anything that psycho Jim Carrey is in. ='[.]'=

[@jackofallclaws6672]

I haven’t seen Alita but I still agree with ya point...also screw this movie’s portrayal of Cassandra Cain!

[@sarahcanibell69]

@@Raycheetah, LMFAO!!! 🤣😂🤣

[@DaMoNarch91]

"Male gaze"? All this time I thought they were saying "male GAYS." I was like, they can be catty but dang, why doesn't Margot want male gays in the audience? Probably because they would've clowned those outfits something fierce.

[@helixsnow3722]

Meh Black girl here. Love Harley as she is my Spirit Animal. Didn't see this movie or Suicide Squad. I didn't like the look of Joker. Nor am I a fan of either Harley Quinn look. I'm a 90s girl and I prefer the 90s Harley look and her obsessive, goofy, temperamental, lovesick character. I read the new comics, I'm not a fan of how they changed her storyline.

[@MrOldboy1971]

U should check out her 2019 show. Its pretty awesome!

[@dawnrazornephilim]

Yeah agree that the old Harley used to have a personality, the new is a bit vapid.

[@theinfamousbruce6602]

facts

[@Kitkat-986]

DC has an animated show out called 'Harley Quin'. It's surprisingly good, if you like Harley Quin as a character, I'd highly recommend checking it out. It's an R rated show with modern style animation, but still has some nice callbacks to the old style. It follows Harley, Poison Ivy, and her small band of misfits she puts together as she tries to get over being left behind and forgotten by Joker. It's a funny, exciting show, but every once in a while, it cuts deep with a moment of clarity, and I swear that someone writing the script knows what it's like to love someone as toxic as the Joker.

[@Bolbi145]

Paul Dini is the best writer for Harley Quinn

[@Itsyovice]

"What is this 1953 oh gosh she's gonna show an ankle" 🤣🤣🤣 5:40

[@genericname1136]

Feminists: THIS MOVIE IS NOT FOR MEN!!!!!!! Men: sounds good to us

[@damiengrimm7285]

Feminists: THIS MOVIE FAILED BECAUSE OF MEN!!!

[@jonathancoco4568]

@@damiengrimm7285 men: yeah suuure and this is coming from a movie who told us to not watch this 😒😡

[@damiengrimm7285]

@@jonathancoco4568 exactly

[@fedegibsonlespaul]

"Didn't you hear? We said is NOT FOR MEN!!! HAHAHA!! WE WIN!! How's it feel, huh?? W-wut? Are you not concerned? Worried? SCARED MAYBE?? What?? What do you mean "you don't care"??? Surprised Pikachu face. YOUWERESUPPOSEDTODESPAIR!!!AAAARRRGGHHHHHH!!!!!" as it melts down screeching aaand pufff, vanished.

[@DarthTingleBinks]

That would honestly make me watch it more. Unless it was clearly feminist, unlike this movie. It's based on a wholly female comic book team. Not in any way feminist. I don't even understand how people think that Wonder Woman was perceived as feminist as it was based on a character that has existed for well over 70 years, and hasn't been related to feminism for probably 50 years or more.

[@GanonGhidorah]

"It's your fault for not seeing this movie that we didn't make for you in the first place!" It's like they think that somehow, supporting the entertainment industry is an obligation. When in reality, if the "disastrous future" that they claim we're going to have does happen, they are literally so superfluous that their livelihoods will be the first to go. I can't help but think that a lot of these crybabies need to read the Jurassic Park Novel, because it has a quote that smacks them right in the face - "Nobody NEEDS entertainment. That's not a matter for government intervention. Nobody needs to come here." - John Hammond "And entertainment has nothing to do with reality. Entertainment is antithetical to reality." - Henry Wu Why is it that they can't grasp this concept? They are effectively dancing clowns, who want to pretend that they're somehow invaluable to the world. They're only as rich and famous and as popular as WE allow them to be. They know the power the "mob" has as they've tried to use it against their "enemies". So we decide that we're indifferent to something they make...that's even worse than hating it...

[@crazymaner2003]

"Where are all the unattractive male superheroes." Seth Rogan in THE GREEN HORNET. It bombed.

[@jasonseipler2665]

It was funny though (sometimes).

[@hydrolito]

Fat Batman in Justice League it did not do as well as they wanted, less than Wonder Woman also less than Aquaman.

[@dinoblacklane1640]

*cough* deadpool *cough*

[@anjaneyasreetrout2444]

Was it really that bad?.....

[@Phantom8941]

@@hydrolito Less than MoS as well.

[@WladcaPodziemia]

"Man won't see strong woman!, just want to see cheap almost-porn!" At the same time, Wonderman still standing as one of best movies and most naked we saw there was pilot-guy.

[@hxllion9182]

Wonderman

[@angrytheclown801]

And in that scene, all I can do is try to figure out how to renovate my bathroom like that.

[@triniking1234]

The writer who threw Gwen Stacy off a bridge shouldn't be called other men misogynists.

[@Dangerous2099]

Haha good one!

[@chellismcelveen4402]

All this because they couldn't bother to find a way to make her more interesting.

[@bloodyneptune]

@@Nightman221k Well I mean, I think the most infamous example of the Women In Refrigerators trope would be the Green Lantern plot it was named after.

[@nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj9457]

The irony must have fly over his head into a black hole.

[@croweman6515]

You know, I still keep getting KZbin ads saying, "NUMBER ONE MOVIE IN THE WORLD", "100% ON ROTTEN TOMATOES" tho that 2nd one makes sense. Lol

[@artofcode]

Men aren't going out to see this movie... Reality: Birds Of Prey’s Opening Weekend Audience Was 54% Male.

[@henrycockwoddle2990]

Compared to the other films that isnt a lot

[@nevernottrash4974]

Hey 46% bought tickets and didn't show up, you can't forget them

[@neurotic3015]

@@henrycockwoddle2990 It's a lot for the fact they tried to throw trash onto men as their "marketing campaign"

[@MarvinXOnline]

Yeah, 54% of fail is still fail lol

[@chrisw6164]

“I’m almost 40”. Whippersnapper.

[@armchairgeneralissimo]

Dang millennial!

[@Itsyovice]

@@armchairgeneralissimo what

[@armchairgeneralissimo]

@@Itsyovice You should say "excuse me sir" learn some manners young man!

[@Itsyovice]

@@armchairgeneralissimo lmao im confused

[@Itsyovice]

@Ork Trukk Drivah thx bro where we goin

[@IMarcaI]

"Boys need T&A to go see an action movie"... Looks over at my John Woo collection, "you fukking wat?"

[@kjoc70]

Are you saying that the secret is actually doves?

[@jasondphoenix]

@@kjoc70 got a better idea!! Wait for it...Doves....ON FIRE!!

[@Mariobro4]

Birds of Prey: "This movie will scare men from seeing this movie." Men: "Okay we'll spend our money elsewhere." ... Birds of Prey: "We didn't get enough money. Men, why didn't you see our movie?" JSG: "If you tell us not to give you our money. We won't give you our money." Birds of Prey: (Shocked Pikachu face)

[@kittiekat7819]

I preferred the original Harley Quinn.

[@MasiMojoda]

You mean the only Harley Quinn?

[@kittiekat7819]

@@MasiMojoda yeah, that one.

[@thaddeuscheeleyjr.369]

Bruh if you like the original look Harley you should read Sean Gordon Murphy's Batman White Knight. He gives a very interesting explanation for this. SPOILER: the original Harley left Joker because of his abuse and some rando teller chick who Joker held hostage at a bank he robbed developed Stockholm's syndrome for him and became this new design of Harley all while Joker apparently never noticed. I certainly wish that were the canon for all the timelines honestly.

[@clevernamerighthere9240]

Thaddeus Cheeley Jr., love that story.

[@cowabungadoug]

@@thaddeuscheeleyjr.369 Yeah, that was the main achievement of the series- giving us a satisfying and provoking Harley story...which just so happens to involve the classic Arlene Sorkin BatmanTAS version. It's eternally frustrating that we never get to see a live-action of the classic version but that would entail exploring Harley complicated relationship and a story with no blunt PC agendas or simple feminist conclusions.

[@deedlessdeity218]

"This movie isn't made for you, mean and boys!" "Men and boys are the reason the movie flopped!" There is logic here... you just need to put the puzzle pieces together the right way, not the psychotic delusional way the people who say both these things do.

[@greenrandall143]

It is men

[@greenrandall143]

It is men not mean

[@mapleman6981]

As Grandpa Palpatine once said. This is quite Ironic

[@DarsiPadilla]

Uncle Bad Touch is his name.

[@nemmondommegneked669]

@@MrNickPresley Palpatine is the kind of grandpa who would make another guy unalive you if he would be a better grandson in Palpatine`s eyes.

[@tyrkun1624]

Is that you Rey? *Reylo PTSD flaashbacks intensify*

[@DarsiPadilla]

@Scion of Madness Confession: Uncle Bad Touch was coined by JSG.

[@Quurze]

Do it, Jew it, screw it, blew it, Grump it. Sorry, I know it wasn't on-topic but I felt the urge to just do it.

[@Beagslie76]

"You're not punishing me by telling me I can't have something I don't want". This right here might be the best quote on the interwebs.

[@Keyce0013]

Not only did they have to get a man to do the action scenes, they had to get a Chad.

[@defalto-o5524]

I fuckn spit my ramen out at reading that

[@MrBiggles53]

Chads rule, Soys drool.

[@DaveMan1K]

"You're too slow!" - Sonic the Hedgehog

[@godiva7721]

You Sir , are criminally undersubbed. You just spit a comic book retrospective, a cinematic critique, and political treatise all in one spicy video. This is some of your best work. Such admiration, much respect!

[@ocean_booi]

"Don't let the voice fool you, I'm almost 40" Me: *[a surprise to be sure, but a welcomed one]*

[@Theleaver5088]

Ah, a prequel fan

[@SuperSonicWarrior93]

What’s also truly pathetic is how these Birds Of Prey fans are so pissed off about their precious Harley Quinn movie failing piss-poorly at the box office, that they feel they have to spread lies about the Sonic movie, since it’s gonna upstage Birds Of Prey.

[@MrSuperbeast92]

That moment when the live action SONIC movie, outperforms a DC movie. X,D

[@OtaniNoAsagi]

Wait what are they saying about Sonic? It's not even out yet.

[@SuperSonicWarrior93]

Luxu yae Chihasu They’re accusing the Sonic movie of having racist, homophobic, beastiality, and KKK scenes of all things. These psychotic Birds Of Prey fans are so pissed off about their precious Harley Quinn movie bombing in the box office, that they feel the need to spread these stupid ass lies on the Sonic movie, since it has to compete against it.

[@MainerdLoyd]

I myself think it's just some typical internet trolling and not a targeted campaign against Sonic. Heck they started before Sonic was released and some involve sneaking their young children into "Birds of Prey" after they were upset by Sonic. Those posts had me laughing pretty good at how silly they are. By even taking these posts serious you're allowing the trolls to level up several times.

[@MainerdLoyd]

@Victor Strelok I don't do Twitter but I heard the ones Clownfish were reading off and they were funny as hell.

[@MelloCheese]

fems: we don’t need boys we can make our own best movi- boys: okay see ya fems: NO COME BACK COOOMEEE BAAA- (insert feminist dinosaur scream)

[@theenderdestruction2362]

Boys: *RUNNNNN*

[@dariandavis7228]

Why in the hell is rosie Perez at almost 60 years old playing Montoya talk about a miscast.

[@Legendary_Detective-Wobbuffet]

She kept grabbing the ball while they were playing, so their moms just told them to let her play too.

[@BryonLape]

Because, diversity

[@dariandavis7228]

@@BryonLape because reasons

[@dariandavis7228]

@@BryonLape keep those diversity Hires coming and I'll keep staying away.

[@yuukisama2001]

Hey, that's "ageism"! But yeah, I get it. But hey everyone needs work these days. Hell, we did get almost 70+ Linda Hamilton getting pumped up again. Where's' the lemonade on the porch???

[@deyantodorov6775]

joker had an R rating and rating and didn't sexualize women, and yet it was a massive success

[@austin9568AuraMasterDX]

Mr.J always gets the last laugh Harley. *hysteric laughter*

[@grinningchicken]

Perfect.

[@HotaruZoku]

"Unpleasant Suprise" 7 words in, and they're already either lying or proving they're out of touch. Who thought this was going to skyrocket? Who?

[@rubix4195]

The freaking crime was they hyped it afterwards as the "film that made most of the year of lockdown." They may want to double check their figures because Bad Boys For Life might want a word about that. (The best two films globally that year of the lockdown were two Chinese films; Bad Boys for Life was *third*)

[@Legendary_Detective-Wobbuffet]

I was in Tokyo during the halloween after Suicide Squad, and trust me, there was ONLY two highly popular costumes women were wearing. There was slutty zombie nurses, and Harley Quinn. These were costumes they themselves bought.

[@Legendary_Detective-Wobbuffet]

@@joejitsu034 I preferred the random crazy ones dressed up as Abraham Lincoln or a pet store. I was dressed as Spider-Man, ran into like ten other Spider-Mans/mens, and we started our own street gang, until most of us got too drunk to continue on.

[@joejitsu034]

Legendary Detective Wobbuffet Sounds amazing mate. Lucky guy! 👍

[@striker8961]

@@Legendary_Detective-Wobbuffetfucking legend

[@catonachimney3602]

Taking away a sexy Harley didn't just effect men, but women too, who thought Margo Robbie is the finest snack pack in Suicide Squad. - Cat Wife.

[@Starvin-Marvin]

The male to female ratio for BoP was exactly the same as Suicide Squad (53/47)... The movie flopped because both genders were turned off by the marketing. That fact is, more men still went to see BoP than women.

[@zigfaust]

But the patriarch was the cause for this film failing. That and Sonic The Hedgehog being a weekend blockbuster. Amirite lads, or amirite lads?

[@thefloppydischero]

A 3 foot tall lego man appears at your bedside in the middle of the night. The only words to come out of their mouth is "You are right, lad." Then he dissipates into the night

[@Geminilion100]

"Don't let the voice fool you I'm almost 40" . . . . I'm sorry, what?

[@docsavage873]

I know I'm a little late with this particular video you put out, but I've subscribed a few weeks ago.. and I really appreciate your commentary. Lol I Sometimes I even find myself saying aloud "RIGHT?!!" when you hit those key points. Thanks for bringing common observation and sense to this KZbin medium.

[@darthsolo3]

Going to enjoy watching Sonic the Hedgehog put the final nail in Birds of Prey's coffin.

[@Devil-Speed8]

I mean the joker film already beat them right?

[@patchmoulton5438]

@@Devil-Speed8 It did but for some reason leftist decided to attack the Sonic movie with one review making definitive remarks _before_ the movie even came out. And no, he didn't have a review copy

[@Devil-Speed8]

@@patchmoulton5438 wooow. Thats the best way to make people buy the sonic movie out of spite.

[@bloodyneptune]

The whole 'male superhero body' you always see, with the veins popping out, thats severe dehydration. That log-chopping scene from Logan, he hadnt had water in over 36 hours and they got like one take of that scene before he blacked out. And then you see these guys on the cover of Mens Health looking like that as if its ok to try and convince dudes thats healthy and 'goals'.

[@typicalneon6503]

When I first saw the ad for "Birds Of Prey" I thought it would be just Harley Quinn going against Joker and I thought it was cool. Then more ads came out and I realized it was one of those movies...

[@striker8961]

I was mildly interested when I saw Ewan but was one of those things I just didn't go see

[@umecha1020]

I have been a fan of the character of Harley Quinn since she first appeared in 1992............I shed a tear or two over what they recreated her to be.

[@galvatronus1139]

Honestly surprised they aren't going after Gerry for killing Gwen Stacy to further Spider-Man's development back in the day.

[@aaron75fy]

they probably see the introduction of Spider-Gwen as an apology to that

[@josegregoriobencomogomez4958]

He also created the Punisher, whom many liberals see as a glorification of fascist violence.

[@johnnyelizabethton]

I've never forgiven him for murdering the original Mr.Terrific. Conway had absolutely no understanding of the character. A hack writer looking to kill somebody.

[@ASR-Ansori]

Conway's received enough hate mail as it is from that one death lol He's still a good writer, though

[@jforonda31383]

"Coked-out Punky Brewster". Bwahahaha!!! Thanks, JSG. That has made my day!

[@natto4now]

Anyone gonna talk about the fact that the 6 people that liked birds of prey are calling the sonic movie(that hasn't come out yet) homophobic

[@blackg450]

Yeah, that's a next level retardation these guys are getting. I guess Birds of Prey gives people retardation.

[@virgilbarrios3174]

Wait, seriously?

[@lord_destros2188]

How is sonic homophobic?

[@natto4now]

@@lord_destros2188 cause hedgehogs have two penises That's double the amount sjw can stand

[@lord_destros2188]

shelby MD damn you right the only ones they can handle are tiny ones that the soy boys have and the old wrinkley shriveled up dick that their millionaire husbands have

[@MsSharondenadel]

Well, i don't have to pay a ticket if i want to watch a lunatic with purple hair hating and blaming men, i just have to walk in a college campus 😑

[@stonebaxter]

13:06 The military should slap a patent your precision...holy shit. I've never heard an argument so on target that it melted my damn eyebrows...

[@jade5202]

I'm a girl and yes, you are right. I "male gaze" too. Just appreciating beauty

[@kotonohayama8576]

de-sexualization is only achieved when everyone is finally wearing orange jump suits lol

[@nemmondommegneked669]

True nobody would look good in orange.

[@ViniciusSilva-zj2mo]

Slipknot intensifies

[@Zan_Jayna]

I prefer 'quasi-futuristic' silver..

[@Izzoroth]

@@nemmondommegneked669 especially since such a jumpsuit is accompanied by a small room with one window and a reinforced steel door that you don't get the keys for.

[@rhyscallinan4402]

Black Canary in comics and popular culture: white, sexy and blonde. Also strong. Feminism: I'm going to pretend I didn't see that. (Also for an almost 40 year old guy he sounds young)

[@MrBiggles53]

A 40 year old superhero, if you see his avatar. Cool design.

[@albatross4920]

6:10 Seriously!? You sound so young!

[@cameronmefford]

Albatross flight The biggest takeaway here

[@marchaelbarras200]

We've all been fooled

[@ren4issance-754]

Carefully constructed intricate plot vs “haHaDiamondGoeSiNAsS”

[@carlmanvers5009]

Spot on as always JSG. When I listen to your videos I feel like I have returned to one of the few pockets of sanity left on YT.

[@sirg-had8821]

You're nearly 40? Holy shit. Keep fighting the good fight for us old timers.

[@BluemoonLacrymosa]

Wait...you're almost 40?! I agree with every last point in this. They try blame teens when its Rated R which effectively blocks most teens. They ostracize the fans of actual Birds of Prey by making them basically side characters. Then to keep emphasizing boys and men as the problem? If it were such a good movie, wouldn't seats be filled with women? And I've said it before, how can anyone see what happened with the similar movies and think this would do well? They keep repeating the same mess with new makeup and eventually hope it'll work.

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

It's the same thing that happened with Ghosbusters 2016 even if it wasn't an R rated film either. The problem with both is that it never reached it's 'intended' demo, which both movies claimed were for kids or in this case, kids and teens but all the marketing was aimed at ADULTS. Even if GB2016 had toys, all the interviews, marketing and so on brought to mind that it was an adult oriented film, not so much in terms of content but in just how they movie was presented and so on. BoP has the same problem. It's made for a Deadpool audience but claims to be empowering to young girls despite the movie being rated so they can't see it by themselves. Their parents have to take them and the parents control the wallets and if they say no, so be it. It's a no. Now compare this with Sonic. Sonic is a family movie and knows it has to cater to a WIDE generation of Sonic fans. Sonic fans that have been around since that magical year of 1991 to kids who love him now. And they listened. We can thank a lot of the older fans for the design change but if you look at the marketing, they remember they still have to bring kids in. The latest marketing move they made was having a digital screen where kids could actually TALK to Sonic and it was the coolest and most heartwarming thing to see. THAT alone is going to get parents who don't care about Sonic to take their kids when they ask and for the older fans, it really does put the crew in good graces because they're not trying to openly attack or antagonize anyone. When you look at Wonder Woman and Alita, it's the same thing; all these films share the idea that attacking fans does not do anything good and they are rewarded for it, even if they don't really break records. Movies like Birds of Prey, Charlie's Angels and so on fail because they make it clear that you're not welcome. They seem to be proud of the fact that they know that a good portion of their audience will feel uncomfortable, acing as if it is needed when it's not. Captain Marvel only got through because Disney claimed that you NEEDED to see it to understand Endgame but we found out that this was not true at all. The last two Star Wars movies tanked while the Mandelorian got the fans to come back due to good writing and a creative head who cared. If these creators were really that adamant about stopping sexism and racism in films, they should stop antagonizing people and trying to guilt them into seeing their trash films. If the movie looks interesting and peaks curiosity, people will see it.If you keep spitting hate they will not come.

[@lord_destros2188]

Super Cosmic Mutant Honey Candle Squid yeah the manodlorian was amazing it almost made me tear up twice it's the second a starwars movie/show that did that (the first was ep 3 when Anakin turned to the dark side. Can you blame me? I was 6 and Anakin was my favorite character (and still is))

[@bluedragon8417]

@@SuperCosmicMutantSquid Yeah you bring up a good point. Since if they really wanted to stop sexism and racism. They would stop making a big deal out of the character gender or skin color, when it comes to these movies. That and stop marketing themselves in such awful ways, that give the middle finger to a viewer who might want to see them. Since how do they believe, they are going to make money by making it clear over and over again, you are not welcome or this movie is not for you? Since that sound like awful marketing. Since even if i wanted to give the movie a chance, all they did was tell me jack about the film and spend more time saying how it's not for me, rather than giving me any information about the plot, story or characters.

[@michaelzaiser8088]

Why are they mad? They told us not to see the movie. We only did what they asked! Are they actually stupid enough to think that insulting their audience will make us want to see the movie out of shame?!

[@AlcatrazCobrache]

I forgot Jonah hex was a thing

[@InfernosReaper]

Just like how we'll forget Birds of Prey was a thing, too.

[@kjoc70]

It wasn't a thing. They tried to make it a thing, but it never became a thing. That's why you forgot it.

[@tyrkun1624]

@@Nightman221k I knew Jonah Hex from Batman: The Brave and the Bold and still couldn't be arsed to watch it. I fell asleep watching a pirated copy. On another note I just googled it and found out Thanos played Jonah Hex.

[@fedegibsonlespaul]

"Me, as a company, failed to produce an appealing product wich is doomed to bomb, but it's the customers fault somehow. They are supposed to buy shit they dont like, right?"

[@lostsnowman127]

I felt a deep kinship - Am also almost 40 - Also remember the cartoon and the live action (Oh noes, someone is trapped in the fridge) - Also have a deceptive voice - Also disappointed in this movie Obligatory Happy Comment!

[@PlasmaMongoose]

I assumed JSG was an early 20s, cusping Millennial/Zoomer, so it caught me by surprise to learn that he is a good 10 to 15 years older.

[@timothykurdt7645]

". . . but as you can see, I'm not mature, so I'll say what needs to be said." I had to pause the video and applause. Thank you

[@HERITAGE12]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha the stand In action director was LITERALLY a "chad"? 😂 😂 😂 😂 That's just too funny

[@Justsomelycan]

Bruh they make green lantern look like a good movie

[@ConscriptedKnightRose]

Almost fou-- Okay, where the hell is your fountain of youth?

[@destinygalearies7382]

Black don't crack

[@JD92205]

I was actually very disappointed with how Harley was designed in the new DC movies, especially in suicide squad, in comparison to her original design from the Batman animated series from the 90’s

[@AmarilloArmadillo1234]

Obi-won and Padame you’ve let us down!

[@DarsiPadilla]

Now who's in the Dark Side?

[@AmarilloArmadillo1234]

The good guys are the bad guys and the bad guys are the good guys... It’s like Nazi Germany!

[@AmarilloArmadillo1234]

midgetydeath yea it was pretty funny! It’s how the left treats women like they can do no wrong and force their will on others. Sad too.

[@umcaraqualquer3640]

@midgetydeath I also love how they didn't point out a single finger to him violently treating his staff, and almost killing his medic at that same comic book... Like, WTF?

[@Urgelt]

I'm loving your video essays, Guy. Great work.

[@DOAM1234]

man, i thought i'd heard all the birds takes, but i like your zoomer voice, ya boomer, so i gave it a listen. then you did the whole "opening a jar for you" bit. 100% worth it just for that laugh.

[@TaddiestMason]

The saddest part of DC's bad live action movies is that their comics and animated movies have handed them the blueprints to craft excellent movies.

[@ddaman7854]

I find Gerry Conway's statements... Disappointing. Also: Magic Mike - $167,221,571 Worldwide gross (NOT including the live shows) from a $7 million budget....But please do go on about how it's just men who "Sexualise" and want to see attractive people on screen, Gerry.

[@t.thomas8919]

Most of the comic/pop cultures movies I wouldn't have a chance to see when I was young if not for hot men. If it wasn't for how Hugh Jackman looked in X-Men films, Jude Law in the Sherlock flicks, or Chris Evans in Fantastic Four and Captain America. My mom would have never bothered to take me. Sex sells both ways. And oh well, tis life.

[@thomaslardinois6383]

By their blaming the R rating for the low turnout, are they implying that this movie was made for children? If so, boy howdy does that open up a can of worms...

[@rustyheckler8766]

Actually, I thought it would pay for itself, maybe even a small profit. This level of rejection is impressive.

[@Jireblade]

JSG. Your vids are one of the only things on yt that makes fking sense these days. keep up the amazing work.

[@jeremy6005]

Conway needs to keep his mouth shut. He’s out of touch with reality.

[@TheGeronimojack]

LOL! Well said! "Get off of your Jabba the hut fat asses", I love it.

[@theblackcoatedman6794]

Almost 40!? Holy shit! I thought you were around mid 20s or something. That voice and avatar is hella misleading. Haha.

[@Zan_Jayna]

Yes, people over 30 should gracefully commit suicide or be hunted down so the hip young folks won't feel uncomfortable..

[@theblackcoatedman6794]

@@Zan_Jayna How is that the takeaway from my comment? Chill.

[@Zan_Jayna]

The BlackCoated Man I watched Logan’s Run too many times lol, I was just playin..

[@adoni5848]

@@Zan_Jayna yes lets get all the boomers

[@Zan_Jayna]

@@adoni5848 r/fwoosh!

[@jamestaylor9151]

Props for eloquently savaging these non-arguments time and again.

[@LordVulcan93]

0:06 Jeffrey Epstein didn't see that coming.

[@whitebeardskydaddy6756]

You're awesome man. Thanks for renewing my hope that other people around the country still use logical thought processes to reach logical conclusions. There are way more of us than there are these neo-pantywaste-diletante creators and "fans." The box office proves it, time after time. Why would I watch this, especially after being told it's not for me? I thought the idea was to get as many people as possible in theater seats.

[@cronaon317]

Absolutely brilliantly put, I agreed with you on every point. Glad I found your channel.

[@sloantempest9421]

Wait that was suppose to be Cassandra Cain?! You can’t be serious

[@truthblade01]

You're almost 40? Dang.

[@airkami]

Absolutely great video man! I remember the live action Punky Brewster too. If being mature means you can't criticize these people for their failure, I don't want to be mature either. Thankfully, you nailed this one and there's nothing left to say about it. It's over lol.

[@b_g_c3281]

"The definition of 'insanity' is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results" ~ -Albert Einstein- ((purportedly)) [ ?more likely Narcotics Anonymous? ]

[@Comicsluvr]

Maybe if the CEOs and producers lose enough money, the boards from these studios will fire them and put in some people who know WTF they're doing.

[@MasterrangerABR]

Get woke, go broke (chanted alla thunderdome chant) Edit: I dislike Harley's SS look and I dislike the look here, I really like her original harlequin look. Edit 2: wait they actually acknowledged Wonder woman?

[@InfernosReaper]

Yeah, the SS and BoP looks really lack substance. Some variation of the harlequin outfit from the animated series is the best, because that is the root of the Harley Quinn look. For some reason, they just think Harleen Quinzel just shortened her name to Harley Quinn for the hell of it

[@zednotzee]

@@InfernosReaper The Batman Arkham series look would be a happy middle ground. It's not a silly jester onesie, but hearkens to that look enough that she's still Harley Quinn. Margot Robbie just looks like a Hot Topic manager

[@jeangentry6656]

Thunderstone? Or do you mean Thunderstruck by AC/DC?

[@MasterrangerABR]

@@jeangentry6656 thunderdome, stupid autocorrect.

[@JohnDoe-hr4cf]

Just Some Guy, one of the most straightforward KZbinrs on this site.