Get Better Planet Photos with WinJupos Derotation!

A basic introduction to WinJupos with guest cameo from Cory Schmitz.
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[@stefanidno]

Nice! A useful tip to speed things up - In your acquisition software set the file naming scheme to use the Winjupos format, then when you create a stack keep the naming (if you're using R,G and B filters name G if you take that in the middle). When you load the stack into Winjupos it will recognise the data in the file name so you don't need to enter time and date etc...

[@DylanODonnell]

stefanidno great tip thanks !

[@martynh5410]

On Corey’s phone the call is from “Dylan O’D***head”. LOL

[@ctortolini]

Insufferable Tesla Owner... LOL!

[@FosterFarmsOk]

omg that thumbnail is amazing!

[@Mistr_A]

I'm a kid at heart thanks for actually making explaining winjupos so easy

[@markc7884]

Your intro music always shakes my floor, the bass is so high. .. I love it!

[@ohhellno8759]

1:59 nah im staying subscribed, you're one of the reasons i started photographing planets

[@DylanODonnell]

Oh Hell No oh hell yeh

[@bradmichelbach6442]

Add that thumbnail to the ever growing list of thumbnails I'll never unsee. Another great video from KZbin sensation and best southern-hemisphere-astrophotographer, thanks Cory.

[@DylanODonnell]

Hehehe

[@TokinAg08]

I appreciate that you've used the last few videos to share details on crowd sourced science.. another avenue for exploration & fun for the at home astrophotographer!

[@scottrk4930]

Thanks again for a great Video . I really like the Graphics on the Topics Intros . I had a "Light Bulb Moment" at 4:20 when you explained very clearly what WinJupos is actually doing . Nice . Don't see anyone else noticing at 6:34 the Image Info entry as "World Famous Astronomer" but I thought that was clever . Cheers for talking "to" us and not down to us . Keep it going .

[@DylanODonnell]

Thanks for the kind words! I know what you mean, I found the software quite obtuse for a long time.

[@sirmeowcelot]

thanks for the video.notifications woke me up at 2am to watch your vid.

[@sirmeowcelot]

I really hope that your arm is felling better. I recommend you to use calamine cream and poison Ivy/Oak Soap.

[@anwarbeg6681]

You ARE a great role model! Trust me! You are actually one of the people who keep me going in the hard hard world of astrophotography. Im 12 so you can probably imagine how difficult it is for me!

[@aronbodi808]

Yeah im 14 and AP is so hard when everything costs your kidney lmao

[@anwarbeg6681]

Áron Bódi Exactlyyyyy

[@davepastern]

thank you Dylan!!!!

[@derekderek2570]

I keep going between you and astrobiscuit as my favorite astronomy youtuber and at this point it's trying to decide if you love mom or dad more, because you both absolutely crush it.

[@DylanODonnell]

Hehe love the biscuit

[@wolfyjaz]

I have been subscribed since I was 12. Sorry about that man but you are more a comedian than a role model for us dorks. That is because all the other comedians just cannot relate 😂

[@DylanODonnell]

U get it! 👊🏼

[@sciencepetr5179]

You are consistently amazing. A role model.

[@bostronomy]

The sign off is incredible. Happy Star Trek Day.

[@elmikol2443]

Thanks for sharing this information Dylan! I don't do planetary imaging, but if I ever do, this is really a must try.

[@flanerpete2040]

Useful software. Look forward to seeing your future results, Dylan. You deal with sea air, I'm dealing with Colorado snow at the moment. Yeah, I said snow ... in the summer! BTW, I'm still a kid at heart.

[@AstroDenny]

This is really a neat concept- I don't think I've been able to get good enough data to make a difference here but I'll play with it. I'm hoping for a great Mars pic here in the coming weeks! Thanks, Dylan.

[@GuybrushThriftweed]

This is why I subbed to your channel!!! Not for the content but for the intro and the lab coat :) Just kidding... Love your vids.

[@johngraham7045]

Thanks for Videos Dillion! I just downloaded winjupos yesterday. Its going to be a while before I become familiar with it. Big learning curve. With this one.

[@Hellridermetal]

That setup is outstanding!! Great vid man!

[@DylanODonnell]

Cheers mate!

[@christopherayres164]

A great study and thank you!

[@LoneWolf-sh1ph]

When you called Cory and your name came up as Dylan O' Dickhead, that had me rolling...😂

[@Nottsboy24]

Fantastic tool 👌 nice one Dylan 🔭

[@dinomonaco2665]

Dylan. Ur definitely staying ahead of the pack with ur videos. Great job😎

[@brianbishop83]

You're spoiling us with all these videos! 😃

[@DylanODonnell]

Thx Brian! Still on my weekly schedule just been more consistent with it lately since uni stopped. :)

[@brianbishop83]

@@DylanODonnell perhaps I've been binge watching your older videos too much. Hello from Brisbane BTW.

[@DylanODonnell]

Brian Bishop gday brisvegas.. missing that side of the mountain range. Nice to get a car park here though!

[@anwarbeg6681]

Nice vid! Keep up the good work! 👌🏽

[@stew_redman]

Hey Dylan! "Activate Windows" :)

[@DylanODonnell]

You’re not my dad Todd!

[@stew_redman]

@@DylanODonnell I'll be back.

[@starsips]

Only 5 minutes into this video and I can't help but comment and say, this is really cool!

[@DylanODonnell]

Haha thx Rowan !

[@FR3EKELITE]

Great video! Very cool software

[@TheHoaxHotel]

That was the stock market crashing into Jupiter

[@DylanODonnell]

Hehe hey thanks for the sub Hoax Hotel.. your channel is rad.

[@weasele1]

now why would the stock market crash lol

[@spookydonkey2195]

Lol at that image info! I would say that is an accurate description. Great video as always 👍

[@DylanODonnell]

Hahaha

[@4RunnerDuck]

"Insufferable Tesla Owner" 🤣🤣🤣

[@book3100]

Cool. That's going to be very helpful. I'm planning on getting into planetary imaging.

[@AdirondackAstronomy]

You made that look a lot easier than I made it out to be 5 or 6 years ago when I last tried it. You might not be a role model, but you know your shi.... stuff. Thanks, Dylan! Also love the Cory appearance.

[@DylanODonnell]

Still learning (in front of everyone heh)

[@AdirondackAstronomy]

Not a bad way to learn

[@GarnettLeary]

Ha ha ha on the phone call ID. Nice.

[@atharvapatole6128]

hi dylan you're amazing at astro-photography

[@jeffreypicard6022]

Great, now I really need to invest in a scope for planetary imaging. Another item added to the list. By the way... 2:03 ... possibly the creepiest thing I've seen in an astrophotography video! Keep it up Dylan.

[@10886dom]

happy to hear the bass back in your intro the last videos intro had very little bass but it could have been my speakers to hahaha

[@DylanODonnell]

Hahah I blame your speakers ;)

[@10886dom]

@@DylanODonnell lol i figured

[@TheWonkyAstronomer]

It's a great piece of software. I could go for some de-rotation right now.

[@judd_s5643]

I’m liking the big pointer...🙂

[@DylanODonnell]

Hehe

[@zeroracer07021]

Shout out to the 3% chicks viewing this channel who hopefully one day will inspire even more females of all ages to look up and explore the cosmos!

[@DylanODonnell]

I’m up from 1% !

[@birreboi]

Loving these info videos, learning a lot here from you. Thanks! And I spose I love your images - I guess ;-)

[@DylanODonnell]

Haha gee thx 🙃

[@birreboi]

@@DylanODonnell No probs

[@RaysAstrophotography]

I use WinJupos, but not for derotation. I didn't even paid attention. Now I know how to "correctly" stack the stacked image.

[@matthewsmith5104]

Excellent video Dylan, definitely one I will use in the future to improve my planetary images. Being as I started out with planetary photography using AutoStakkert and Registax and then expanded to DSO later, I have almost no experience with software like Pixinsight. I think it would be really insightful to see a PI planetary tutorial to go along with the great DSO tutorials from yourself and others.

[@DylanODonnell]

I’ve just started using wavelets in PI.. it would be a short video but a good one :)

[@ClearAmbientSkies]

“Dylan O’Dickhead” 🤣🤣

[@TheUrbanAstronomer]

Nice one Dylan, have been playing around with Winjupos for a few weeks now..(esp because of Mars like you said :D) it seems to really improve the output.

[@DylanODonnell]

Yeh it’s been on my todo list for way too long.

[@jujubean7664]

I’m one of those kids, lol.

[@nishantpatil61]

Yet again a video sharing tonnes of knowledge. interesting how this app can do so much. On the other hand, what do you eat to keep your brain so knowledgeable every single time?

[@DylanODonnell]

Lotttts of coffee and red bull :)

[@dankahraman354]

I would still keep my videos under 2 minutes for Jupiter. WinJupos would be a bonus

[@knutzoinsane8564]

Thank you bro🙂

[@vnth2186]

Hey Dylan. Could you please make a video about your astronomy degree. Where you did it from; how much maths (mathematics) was involved; how much money did you you spend; who would you recommend it to; was it worth the hassle; and some major things you learned from it. Love from India ❤️ And also, were all the letters in the textbooks upside down (get it?)😂

[@DylanODonnell]

Really great suggestion 👌🏼

[@theastro-philosophersappre2786]

I’m nearly off the age chart. Good video thanks💫

[@ricardoabh3242]

Just tested, it great! My moon photos are amazing! 🤪

[@sPidX1]

How ironic this video should show up, it was only yesterday I tried WinJupos for the first time myself (not that I was expecting much with the shoddy data I was using 😆) ...the one part I did get hung up for a while on was the 'T' in the timestamp hh:mm:T, all I seemed to uncover from Google was that it was maybe a zone designator? But couldnt for the life of me find out what I should input here...I left it at 0 🤷🏻‍♂️ .... I've checked the lil box in my capture software to save winjupos compatible file names for my next session so hopefully this'll make the process a bit smoother 😁 Still curious what that T should be though 🤔 Love your work and another very helpful video, thanks! 😎👌🏻

[@sjgonline]

It’s been a couple years since I did planetary imaging, I’ll try this on Mars with the C8 that has been idle for even longer than that. Thank you for the quick and easy tip!. BTW: Where do you find the patience to tear down, build the gear, balance, etc. over and over?

[@stromytube]

thanx for nice explanation

[@TwoPancakes]

Yes, you are my role model

[@DylanODonnell]

Thx! I make no promises 😆

[@TwoPancakes]

don’t make one, remember? We have no purpose and we’re all gonna die

[@escolastic2623]

My like for the thumbnail XD

[@jamiboothe]

Very cool vid, and I liked how you answered my Mars question without even being asked. One question that I probably missed but am too lazy to watch the vid again, did you stack your Jupiter data from avi, or did you just take individual tif. photos of Jupiter? Asking for a "friend" because she recently took a bunch of tiffs of Mars and can`t figure out what to do with them.

[@DylanODonnell]

Heya thanks :) Stacks from video .. because 1000s of TIFS would be hard to work with! I would probably try to convert them into video first.

[@chemtrail_brew_Que]

Hey Dylan what’s that font you use for your star stuff logo? Looks sick

[@DylanODonnell]

I think it’s nasalisation font which is a free version of the NASA font from dafont dot com :)

[@paule1984]

9'06" in..... 🤣🤣

[@InYourLocation]

Gonna de-rotate my life with this

[@stewartbeveridge1564]

As per other comments, you need to set your acquisition software to WinJupos naming convention. Then the file name auto fills the data. You also need to set your coordinates of your location

[@crazyelon9774]

Hehehe I am a kid and I like your old guy humor :D

[@danielodonnell1007]

Mad stacks brah

[@AstroLaVista]

The perfect storm of dick jokes (thumbnail) and intellect. Keep up the great work.

[@robsbackyardastrophotograp8885]

It sucks that my neighbor's house and trees seem to block all the planet views from my backyard. Hopefully the move to college in a year or so will provide some improved sight lines. Even if it means taking on some extra light pollution. Trevor seems to love the results from the L-eXtreme filter almost as much as he does Ashley, so there's still hope in that department.

[@reahs4815]

Build a high tower or you know, use some gas and matches :)

[@howardbond1583]

Dylan I’m the Old Guy and your the Kid. You’re a great role model.....Stay Safe!

[@stormingbarney4498]

Great video. I would be happy if I could get focus 😂

[@DylanODonnell]

Lol I’ve been there.

[@cayalag]

I haven't read all comments, so someone might have already told you... to avoid artifacts on the edge of the planet, just reduce de "LD value" to something like 0.65. You can either do it on the "Adj" tab, so it applies to all frames as you work with them, or in the de-rotate tool individually changing their values.

[@DylanODonnell]

Hey thanks for that!

[@SnaxxNZGaming]

Does the sea air really effect images that much? Christopher Go's guide actually recommends being close to the sea (although it doesn't say why). Given your location the Jet Stream is probably a big issue as well (I know its a right pain here in New Zealand)

[@DylanODonnell]

Depends on the sea :) when the winds up you can see the salt haze in the air here.

[@constellationshots3893]

I'm 16 but don't really care, I love your channel, and your love for astronomy, and I know when to ignore shit you say because I've lived in australia and grown up near people who say wacky stuff. I don't put you on such a high horse but you seem like a nice and free soul. But on Jupiter, I wish I took such good images of jupiter, it's always too bright, IDK what type of filter will help, I have a pretty fast telescope, f/5. Maybe an ND filter.

[@DylanODonnell]

Varun Vanga 🇦🇺🍻

[@DylanODonnell]

Haha nice ! Thanks for watching mate !

[@constellationshots3893]

Dylan O'Donnell thanks for the vids🍻

[@weasele1]

ok so this is a recent video obviously with the ntz storm. i found the second one before anyone else mentioned it in cloudy nights . I have a 16 inch f7 and im using an asi 224 adc corres=ctor and 2x barlow i have some nice mars images you can see them on my f book page or cloudynights moonwatching ferret. one question I have is i have been capturing 300 seconds on a 400 roi thinking rotation would not cause blurring. some of my ser files are 4 min. I am thinking i can drop it down to 120sec i should still get way over 20,000 frames i get that with Jupiter on 800x 800 in 120sec. I was wondering if i can de rotate one image or dr=e rotate the ser file ? the imagen=s came out awesome but there can be some blurring i suppose

[@purplesky7893]

i just turned 13 and i subscribed

[@DylanODonnell]

Get off my lawn !

[@vnth2186]

@@DylanODonnell 😂😂

[@gy9326]

Well I now know what I’m doing today. Wish I had some better data at my disposal.

[@scottneith1]

When you say use your stacked images, do you mean after you've already used the wavelengths in registax?

[@TheJoshuaCarter]

Which brand makes the extension tube you use in your image train?

[@DylanODonnell]

Oh that things so old. I think it came with the Celestron guide scope.

[@GregMcCall]

at about time 1:14, you show the imaging train. If it's the same as the 9.25, the T adapter for EdgeHD is 91mm. So for EdgeHD 9.25, thats 146mm backfocus - 91mm = 55mm to the sensor. (that would be similar to your SCT) I understand the televue powermate doesn't affect that distance but I would have thought the camera, filter & spacers exceed the 55 without the copper coloured tube. So two questions. 1) what is the copper coloured tube ? (guessing some form of M42 to 1 1/2" eyepiece adapter) and 2) How did you work out the backfocus distance you are using? (SCT up to the sensor)

[@DylanODonnell]

I really just fiddled until it worked!

[@markc7884]

@@DylanODonnell Don't we all do that? :) Roughly going by the numbers the manufacturer gives, then some tweaking here and there.

[@pilotguy1983]

Hey Dylan, I understand making sure the back focus is right for most imaging applications but I don't bother for planetary as I think when I'm imaging on such a small area of the sensor, flat field is less critical, but now I'm having doubts. Is there a good reason to get the back focus just right for planetary?

[@DylanODonnell]

Good question. I’m not sure I have the answer yet.

[@InsertAstroNameHere]

I have never had issues focusing on planets with any imaging train. I’m using a SCT crayford focuser, 2x Powermate, filter wheel, and camera currently. Have also had success in the past with ADC/color cam as well as leaving the diagonal on. Not an issue for planets.

[@luboinchina3013]

How do you get a proper spacing with barlow? I've got 8SE, ZWO Filter wheel and Barlow3x. At the end ZWO ASI 290MM Mini. I was not able to get that information anywhere.

[@seansmith908]

I may have a laughed too hard at Dylan O Dickhead, but enjoyed the video all the same :). Clear skies Dylan.

[@harishk30]

I'm a kid and subscribed :)

[@jamesdougan8789]

g`day dylan thanks heaps for this video .i have tried to work out winjupos with no luck (just stupid i guess)armed with this info i will be giving it another go ....you should of told the viewers about the option in firecapture to implant the info winjupos needs in the meta data /header whatever they are paying you your worth 1000 times more mate cheers james D EDIT: just read stefanidno pinned post oops he talked about the fire capture option i did not know other capture software could do it as well sorry my boomer

[@DylanODonnell]

Thanks mate! I got the file name thing working last night ... even easier now !

[@jamesdougan8789]

@@DylanODonnell i learned about the option in a video with christopher go on another channel he also had some good tips in autostakka like shift and click on the data quality graph to set the stacking frames amounts / % in the boxes speeds things up too and some tips with registax wavelets

[@quasar3312]

Hi? Can I use the Winjupos program to calibrate the moon’s field rotation phenomenon?

[@brodymk45]

hey ive been trying to take good photos of the planets through my celestron powerseeker 127eq through my phone using nightcap app on the app store and when i turn down the exposure and iso i cant see the bands why is that? is it because im not zoomed in enough cause im just using 12mm for my videos.

[@Devlinator61116]

I noticed the Moon was on the list of possible celestial objects. Could this program be used to "undo" lunar libration?

[@DylanODonnell]

I suspect so !

[@banday78]

How long one video file of Mars should be? And how many such video files should we take?

[@DylanODonnell]

Mars rotates slower so i I think you could get away with 10 mins for a single frame if you really pushed it.

[@SaltyPirate71]

Being new to astrophotography, I have a question: why is your image of Jupiter set to north pole down?

[@stromytube]

Am damn old kido still thank u Dylan😁

[@tombutts919]

Winjupos does take a little bit to get used to, but it has made huge differences in my planetary imaging. I was able to use 20 minutes (10x2mins) of data of Mars, it certainly helped pull out better details and keep the noise at a reasonable level. Here's a comparison between a single video (stacked 5300 frames out of 17000), vs a derotated image: imgur.com/gallery/Y6fl0Wh

[@DylanODonnell]

Excellent before and after !

[@tombutts919]

Those new QHY462C cams are certainly something else!

[@astronomynotebook]

When you are entering the time and date on a stack...where is this time originate....if it is coming from a stack should it be the average or midpoint time....please explain😊

[@DylanODonnell]

I assume if they are all relative (eg all start or all end) then you’ll be fine.

[@AfloatFob]

I'm fairly new to this and made a 1 Hour time lapse GIF of Jupiter the other day. I messed up somewhere in processing, because there is a wobble to it (I think Earth's rotation). What do you use to correct this?

[@DylanODonnell]

I use auto align in firecapture so they’re all in the same place. Also make sure your camera doesn’t slip.. also winjupos corrects the alignment :)

[@AfloatFob]

@@DylanODonnell Thank you for the fast reply. This was my first time trying a lapse, the seeing conditions weren't the best (Florida in Summer), but it was the first clear night in a while. photos.app.goo.gl/MfxeCXh5eMRUYbtV9

[@DylanODonnell]

Ahh I see. You’re using an alt-az Mount. Winjupos will correct this but using an equatorial mount stops the frame from rotating from frame to frame :) or use a wedge so your alt-az acts like an equatorial Mount.

[@AfloatFob]

@@DylanODonnell Probably should have mentioned that... I do have an EQ as well. but didn't feel like setting it up, as I was only doing planetary video stacking. Thank you again, love your work.

[@colinsoars5748]

A question - my Jupiter pic from the a week or two ago includes three moons. The moons are a bit blurred because of the amount they moved during the video I took. Can derotation fix this?

[@DylanODonnell]

I’m no expert on this but I did try and derotate with moons and it smears them as the surface is the reference point .. so no I don’t think so!

[@colinsoars5748]

Dylan O'Donnell thanks. I have split my original video (six minutes) into 30 second bits. I plane to stack each one then crop every thing but the moons. Then I’ll stack these and see how it goes. Cheers

[@jpb321]

I'm having an issue trying to de-rotate a set of images. I've followed this procedure, but the final output image is coming out cropped in a lot. So much that jupiter doesn't even fit in the frame. In the original images, jupiter takes up less than 25% of the frame. Why would this be happening and how can i fix it?

[@johnatowers]

Ha ha, made me laugh out loud.

[@mgmcd1]

Dylan O’Dickhead! 😂😂😂 Thats love. 🤓

[@DylanODonnell]

Cory Schitz strikes again!

[@mgmcd1]

I can see why he’d have to with a last name like that. 🤔

[@Talalpro_1]

Nah im 16 and i watched u for like 2 years so no im subscribing

[@DylanODonnell]

Foiled again! 😆

[@Talalpro_1]

Dylan O'Donnell 🤣

[@kenn7915]

I am her because your life, according to the Time Lord's Chronicles, impacted the golden age of astrophotograpy. In 10years you will discover time flux spatial travel. We will see you in dimension 3.

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[@kenn7915]

No clue. Who is Dr. Who and the wokes?