Get Your Harley Engine Built in the Best Order while Saving Time and $

[@GixxerFoo]

Would you go for it and build your engine all at once or do it over time?

[@kerrylewis2581]

I would have if it wasn't for my extended warranty.

[@125saito]

Over time. I went with the S&S Sidewinder, Arlen Ness Big Sucker and Powervision all at once. Early fall I will install Redshift 468 cam, S&S lifters and pushrods, upgraded HD oil pump and dynotune.

[@chrisautrey5051]

Over time. I did a stage 1 2 into 1 pipes and hiflow air cleaner. Next is a better clutch and compensator. Then later big bore kit and cams.

[@Bluis5445]

For sure a stage 1 of the bat. Then after a year of saving some money! I’d go straight to a stage 3 or 4.

[@gdubbsmotolife9713]

Over time. No way I could get the wife's approval to spend $thousands in upgrades in one shot 😆

[@trippontwowheels]

Gixx - The man of reason!

[@jamescantlin1072]

Just some advice if don't have all the money for what you want save your money and buy one part or kit at a time then when you have all parts bought then do it and that's if you are paying a Mechanic it will save you quite a bit of money on labor doing everything at 1 time and that way you can do your research on what you want to add to your big bore or whatever you decide to do When I got started with my 128 kit was planning on about $3500 Time I got done adding everything I was pushing over $8000 So when you start a project do your research for some time buy your parts overtime Just some friendly advice.

[@perryhart3172]

Lots of people don't think about it, but for torque, just changing the sprocket and trans tooth ratio, can make a big difference.

[@bradballard2068]

I bumped up my drive sprocket off the transmission to the rear wheel by two teeth. But I already have the big bore in the s&s cams so I had the torque to do that, I wouldn't have done that to a stock V-Twin. It will serve me well on my over the road travels I love the results it gave me

[@trippontwowheels]

My way is to own and ride a bike for a couple months and a few thousand miles before I upgrade anything. Cuts down on mistakes, regrets, and buying stuff you don’t really need.

[@slowpokebr549]

I save up parts. I get them as I can afford them. With fuel injection you have to tune it and I don't want to have to mess with that more than once. I want the entire build done in one shot. BUT if it has a carb....I'll add stuff one at a time

[@jayalexander8027]

@@slowpokebr549 I do the same. I’ve always got parts kicking about

[@chopperchopster]

I usually start with a frame I find at a swap meet. LOL. Build a roller. Always a chopper so not needing much. Then I find an old beat up shovel or pan. When I say beat up I do mean BEAT UP. Eventually its a rolling running headache. And its NEVER finished. Last week I was staring at one of my ironhead chops and realised it needed a sissy bar, P pad. passenger pegs and highway pegs. 2 days of cutting and welding and some rattle can paint later its now a 2 up chopper instead of a one person bobber.

[@kerrylewis2581]

I only went to stage one air filter complete exhaust (CAT delete) and a tune hoping it would have the power I needed for two-up touring because I had an extended warranty to deal with. It didn't so once I hit 60,000 miles I refreshed my cam chest along with a cam for heavy bikes and of course a dyno tune once again. I'm now at 125,000 and still very happy with how my engine performs.

[@scottarmstrong1172]

Great info as always. It's a money thing with me. When I bought my Street Glide in '06 I was still working and had more money than time. I paid a good independent shop to install a Zippers torque king kit and Rinehart true duels. So all at once on that bike. Now that I'm retired and relatively poor, it's one step at a time on this Soft Tail. I would rather do the work myself, so I don't mind. I never had much money in my younger days so except for that one time I've always worked on my own stuff. I trust in my abilities and get a sense of satisfaction in doing it myself.

[@robertbaumann4742]

Food for thought… there is adjustable, push rods, and then there is (S&S quickie )adjustable push rods, which are apparently what you need to Not take off the top end rocker boxes. I made this mistake.

[@keystonedaytrip238]

Research , plan , buy ALL items over extended period . Tear down and complete all mods at once . Reveal & admire your work . I’m an all or nothing kind of guy . Did numerous rides this way .

[@hawkdsl]

Agree 100%.

[@bradballard2068]

Haha, I'm glad I'm not the lone ranger because that's exactly how I have to do it. As a matter of fact, just a couple years ago my living room look like an eBay store for Harley-Davidson. Clearly I'm a bachelor 😂🤣😂 because I thought it looked nice

[@keystonedaytrip238]

@@bradballard2068 Nothing wrong with a few dozen Harley parts as bachelor decor

[@bradballard2068]

@@keystonedaytrip238 hahahaha, and the Christmas lights during the holidays complimented the Chrome.

[@hawkdsl]

My living room is full of Hot Rod parts and HD parts as we speak..LMAO

[@franksaxton3583]

I bought my 2010 FXSTC new and it's been a great bike. Far from my first Harley but this is my first twin cam and I'm impressed how trouble free it's been. I'm an old geezer and for a variety of reasons I want to soup up this bike with me doing most if not all of the work. I am hardly a skilled mechanic but I've been wrenching on Harleys and clunker cars since I was in my early teens. I am just now seeing this video but my first step was to install an FP3 on my bone stock bike to sort of baseline it. I didn't notice a huge improvement but it seemed like it ran better. Since then I have done the slipons and an arlen ness air cleaner. Bike definitely sounds better and has a lot more punch to it. Why or how did I wait so long to do this? So next step is a complete upgrade to the cam chest. cams, bearings, better tensioners, high flow oil pump. I'd prefer to wait until Winter just in case I run into problems... since the bike is running great I want to enjoy it before tearing it apart. I do enjoy working on my bikes and I have more confidence when I am out on the road since I know more about the condition of everything since I'm the only one who touched something.... or didn't touch/check something. I have zero interest in any M8 so I guess I'll be spending whatever is left of my life with grease under my nails :)

[@brianhelgerson3870]

I've done a few bikes a couple different ways, the last build I did started with suspension,tires,brakes, setting the sag. That way I had the confidence in the bikes handling and its ability to hook up. Thanks for the video. Have a great weekend.

[@joebehanna5894]

I agree brain the suspension is key to smooth sailing thru the curves. Don't need a death wobble at 110 in the twisties

[@kenbrandmier3678]

I've ridden motorcycles since 1978...dirt bikes then...all carbureted...I lived in upstate NY and experienced snowmobiles from 1988 -2006 doubles, triples, 2 strokes and 4 strokes...all having one carburetor per cylinder...1000cc 160hp...no turbos yet.....I've built 2 sportsters and a 2002 softail. I know a little bit from experience plus I'm an Electro-mechanical engineer. I ride a 2015 touring now that was supposed to be a "built bike"....It's a champ but really loud... I'm not impressed enough yet to buy an M8, regardless of the displacement. I like your approach. I think I want to make my 2015 run forever...Although, I may buy a new quieter one to ride my wife around on Sundays...like we did today. I agree, you can make an HD MC last forever...and there's really not that much difference...old (late 1990s) to new.

[@GixxerFoo]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with riding a Twin Cam or Evo and building it up into something special. No payments, upgrade in cash and to me those bikes are more special than anything bone stock new someone just bought.

[@thatbuelldude189]

Ive got full bolt ons rn Exhaust intake and ignition Just got offered a hardtail sportster with a hot lil motor Its already had a 01 Buell Cyclone motor (97hp from factory) This motor has stage 3 nallin headwork Andrews N8 cams High compression pistons (11.0 to 1 comp) Mikuni hrs42 carb He only wants 4k for the bike I cant beat that for that price

[@tommyarnold890]

Have a plan is the ultimate advice. I just bought my wife her first motorcycle. I plan to advise her, but ultimately, its her bike. I will be buying my own as a graduation present. I plan to do a few things that won't upset the warranty for the first couple of years. But buy and store the parts along the way. After the warranty is up do all major upgrades at once.

[@GixxerFoo]

That's awesome! My wife rides her own bike too and we thoroughly enjoy getting to ride together, you two are gonna have a blast out there!

[@tommyarnold890]

@@GixxerFoo I'm so excited for her she passed her permit test the other day and we are doing Harley's riding academy together at the end of the month. It's going to be a blast next year.

[@gdubbsmotolife9713]

Fully agree tuning needs to be the 1st thing. Running w/o a tune can cause damage. PV user here. I have the ability to do pretty much whatever I want.. at least until I run out of $$ LOL

[@jongray9342]

Make a plan , check the budget, work the plan...bless n carry on...

[@keystonedaytrip238]

Yes , yes , yes ! Having a realistic plan and sticking to it are #1 .

[@xlr8r3VA]

If you buy a used bike, make sure you start with finding out what you already have. I just bought a 2000 Sportster 883 to get back into riding and found out it already had straight pipes and a K&N air filter. I swapped out the straight pipes for a set of Screamin' Eagles I got from my dad. I am definitely upgrading in stages as I am in the same boat. Not enough cash flow. End game is a 1275 Hammer Kit with ported heads and Hammer .570 lift Jackhammer cams. Lots of other stuff to upgrade along the way.

[@GixxerFoo]

That's my favorite Sportster setup, 1275 with the 570 cam. Keeps the compression down and you have a ton of usable power. The 560 cam with higher compression in a 1275 makes a lot of horsepower but it's way up on top.

[@genekelley7579]

🛑🛑 Gix....Just got out on my 2016 CVO Limited after taking the CVO 110 to a Stage 4 build using the Harley Davidson 117 Race Kit, S&S True Duels, Rinehart 4” Mufflers, and Harley’s 57 mm Intake (we talked after you video “Untapped Potential”) ...Let’s just say the bike is “Stupid Fast and Stupid Powerful” 😂👍💯 Power numbers are 120 Horse and 120 pounds of Torque. While 2 up-riding, the bike is simple with no downshifting looking for “passing power”, just role the throttle and let it gooooooooooooo😀👍 The bike feels like it could burn the tire off while in motion, in 4th gear, while solo riding. When you “jump on the throttle”, the front comes up, and the bike pins you to the back of the seat😂. The motor is still breaking in, but I can say moving from the Stock 110 Twin Cam, to the 117 Race Kit “is a game changing upgrade”!!!😂 Thanks for all your videos. Keep the Info Coming Our Way💯👍

[@GixxerFoo]

I bet that's a monster now going with high compression and big cam they use in that kit!

[@genekelley7579]

@@GixxerFoo The Race Ejectors were also installed. Really Fun to Ride😂💯

[@joebehanna5894]

First thing you may want to stabilize the suspension first so it's going to handle the power and paces you put it thru .

[@GixxerFoo]

That's an excellent point!

[@Bluis5445]

Man I agree with you. I personally wouldn’t spend that much on a sportster. But to each their own ya know?

[@seekerofthenarrowgate8716]

I'm late to the party but great video! For me the compensator is the first thing to go. Stock ones are best used for paper weights. Dark Horse is the way to go for this upgrade. 🍻

[@GixxerFoo]

You can't beat that Dark Hirse Eliminator with the cush drive! It's even rebuildable!

[@seekerofthenarrowgate8716]

@@GixxerFoo Exactly! Have a great weekend.

[@johnthomas1263]

I. Like. The. Way. You. Give. Information

[@jayalexander8027]

I’ve spent nearly 5000 pounds Sterling building my FXDLS out over 3 years. S&S 585 cams, Bassani road rage exhaust. S&S HC pistons. S&S adjustable pushrods and tappets. Legend suspension. Dyno tune. The list is endless

[@GixxerFoo]

Once you get going in a build it never ends!

[@rider14mcd63]

I start out with pipes. Milwaukee 8s run great without a tune, mine are. No coughing or decel pop. And I get to keep my warranty. Now Sportster and twin cams, I agree you need a tune. After warranty game on. Several reasons, I may not like the bike, or it may be a bad fit and I haven't wasted the money.

[@GixxerFoo]

Right on, the M8 were designed with the lean emissions compliant tunes in mind and they handle it way better than the Twin Cam and Sportster.

[@denniscassillo2032]

What about changing the intake manifold and injectors? Bigger would be a welcome addition to the power band!

[@GixxerFoo]

Larger injectors really come into play with the big inch engines and serious head porting.

[@timkeane7469]

I appreciate your videos. One thing I feel you could have mentioned on this particular one that’s (to me at least) extremely important when building up your bike...rebuild, weld and true the bottom end. HD is notorious for their run outs on the shafts and balancing of the cranks. I know it’s expensive but considering the final result possible if you don’t can be catastrophic. Thanks for the good work! Glad you fixed the shelf!

[@GixxerFoo]

Good point! If you're down far enough to have the cases split that's a must do!

[@bloodymarvelous4790]

I did it all at once (128", cam, full exhaust, extreme flow intake, PV2), got a special tuning map from Fuel Moto, and didn't have it dyno tuned. That last decision came to bite me in the a$$. The rear cylinder seized after only 120 miles, probably because the bike was running too lean. So we're rebuilding, and getting it dyno tuned right away now. Total additional and preventable expense is probably gonna be well above $2,000.

[@GixxerFoo]

Oh crap, that's insane! Did you call FuelMoto and let know what happened?

[@bloodymarvelous4790]

@@GixxerFoo Yeah, they're working with me to get it fixed.

[@GixxerFoo]

@@bloodymarvelous4790 Good deal, man that shouldn't of happened even with their canned tune. I'm glad to hear they are working with you on it!

[@jjs8046]

I will be getting Fat Bob soon - I asked AD to perform Stage 2 before I will even see it. IF I ever go any further, I will opt for Stage 4 crate engine. That's it.

[@denniscassillo2032]

I've heard that the crate engines have problems. You are better off using your own engine. JMO

[@dustinalexander1829]

Thank you for this I've seen oil cooler recommendations on websites. At what point do you recommend adding one.

[@jankralik533]

Great content, i have startet on my cvo pro street with vance and soft tune, next finaly step is engine stage IV

[@GixxerFoo]

Going all out!

[@jeckel6953]

Good advice: First mod, get a tuner... (same advice I give to people) Bad advice: Get an FP3 I bought one. Nothing but problems with their forced updates and communication issues. Last time I tried to use it, it mapped my bike as a 197 Ci engine and threw every code known to man. Used my SESTP and was able to bring my bike back to life. Good Advice: Get the Power Vision.

[@GixxerFoo]

Power Vision is a very versatile tuner, it's what all the dyno shops use as well. I've got FP3's and a power vision, nice thing about the power vision is you can buy a tuning license for and tune another bike for around 200 bucks. Beats buying another tuner, I've had pretty good luck with the FP3's. Did you give Vance & Hines customer support a call?

[@jeckel6953]

@@GixxerFoo I have not called them. I don't have a lot of free time during their business hours. One improvement they could make is allowing you to use a PC instead of just your phone. And also able to do things with your tune without being connected to your bike.

[@franksaxton3583]

@@GixxerFoo I have a FP3 which was not my first choice. I planned to go the Dynajet route but they decided to obsolete their flagship model. My bike does not have a CAN bus and the FP3s were selling out quickly so I had to pull the trigger on one. So far it's worked out well but I have to say that V&H support is *HORRIBLE*! Most of the techs don't seem to know anything and they try to snow you with a lot of blather that sounds really intelligent unless you actually know how fuel mapping works. They have so far been completely unresponsive. I asked to talk with a supervisor and so far the supervisor refuses to reply. So V&H has make themselves radioactively toxic to me. So far, the maps I've been using work ok but they have none for my actual configuration. The ECU seems to have settled into sane long term fuel trims and the bike runs really well. I'm a bit concerned about staying with V&H as I move towards a cam chest upgrade given that they will likely be MIA if I need help. Bottom line: FP3 is better than I thought it would be. V&H support is the absolute dregs. I'm managing it with a Samsung tablet btw.

[@crspcritter]

Well great video; got my 34 tooth pulley in ; 👍🏻👌 What a bunch a work . Many seals replaced . Factory shifter seal was leaking and it was one lip and no spring . Replaced with aftermarket two lip and spring !!!- well it was over 10 days of getting parts and cleaning stuff . Belt adjustment better be prepared for laying over seat upside down spring tensioner and adj and adj and adj . But I know the bike much better now and satisfaction . Oh my torque wrench would not work backwards on left handed nuts on pulley nut and clutch hub nut . Heck of a way to find out . It’s meticulous but we do what we do - ✊❤️👍🏻👌🙏🏻

[@GixxerFoo]

That's awesome you got those seals replaced as you went, that's doing it right! Yeah that left handed thread is a pain, l found out about my torque wrench the same way. How are you liking that pulley so far?

[@crspcritter]

@@GixxerFoo yes ; thank you ; had mechanic told me to replace seals while in there . The new seals fit much tighter ; good call - Test run ; 1st and 2cd still slightly lower than the six speed . Still way better . Little bigger jump from 2cd to 3rd than six speed . 4th slightly higher than six speed and 5th slightly lower than 6 th in six speed . Well ; slightly more braking effort with higher gearing and less engine braking. Shifting into 5th at approximately 65 now . No longer try to up shift when your in 5th.😁 Now I can run with my wife on interstate ; hers is 6 speed. Dakota digital recalibrate next . $120 . Someone mentioned mpg . Another Benifit !!!- One other thing ; check rear belt tension with axle fully tightened !!! Found that out . You’ll get tighter after axle tightened !!!- Well thanks fer asking ; and always wanting to share info - ✊❤️👍🏻👌🙏🏻

[@GixxerFoo]

That's awesome when a plan comes together like that! Great to hear you're enjoying that new setup!

[@crspcritter]

@@GixxerFoo big bore kit next ; budget person here . Fun doing stuff on budget . I can deal with stuff a few hundred dollars not thousands . The sportster pulley is much easier to change if you have sportster. Thanks for all ya do on here . Great to share knowledge. ✊👌👍🏻🙏🏻😎

[@crspcritter]

@@GixxerFoo ok gixxerfoo : second test ride . 50 miles ; odometer said 40 . Shifting : 1-2 @ 25 instead of 15mph. 2-3 @ 35 instead 25 3-4 @ 45 instead of 35 4-5 @ 55 instead of 45 . Torque monster so a slightly little less throttle response a lower rpm z It’s a torque monster so turn the wick and no problem. ✊👍🏻👌🙏🏻

[@brucer261]

great looking bike!!

[@vancedyer755]

Have you ever reviewed an S&S 106 Hot set big bore kit? I went with the S&S 106 set after doing the stage 1 and 2 on a 96 ci FLHTCU a few years back. The Stage 2 was with SE 255 cam High flow intake and D&D 2 into one Fat Cat creating 101 lb torque and 95 hp. Last year I had the S&S Big bore kit installed and got 108 lb of torque a 103 hp with the 585c eay start.

[@GixxerFoo]

I haven't looked into it but I've heard a lot of great things about it!

[@vancedyer755]

@@GixxerFoo forgot to add the my Tuner is a TTS done with a Dyno tune. The heads are stock.

[@johnchilds6471]

First of all, you have to decide what you want the bike to do, and where you expect to run the rpms. Too many guys look for max hp at 6000 rpms and up, On a sporty 7000. But how often do you really max out the rpms? I set up my sporty to make max hp, but it didn't come on till I was above 4500 than katey bar the door.A lot of fun but not really a good day to day bike. I set up my LowRider to make max torque a around 3000 -4000, right where i really needed it during normal riding and it works great for me. Also, if you are looking at a big bore and later getting a lot of headwork done pick out who is going to do the heads, talk to him and find out what he needs as far as pistons. When he does the heads he will have to set the compression and will need to know the piston head height and dome shape to meet your requirements. In short, know what you really want, talk to the guy who will tune the bike and he will do the best he can to meet your expectations. If you are going for max hp on a twincam he may suggest that you talk to Darkhorse to make sure your crankshaft can handle it. Going fast costs a lot, so spend wisely.

[@rw6783]

Kinda funny you posted this. I just picked up a 2004 1200R sporty. Was wondering where to start.

[@artmchugh5644]

Get a Ducati sport bike !!! There !!! Wasn't that easy !!???😎😎😎😄😄😄😄😄🍺🍺🍺

[@rw6783]

@@artmchugh5644 but.... I like my sporty?

[@GixxerFoo]

Those are fun bikes! It's hard to beat good carbed sportster, those R models run pretty dang good!

[@RogueA100]

Always enjoy these videos. Thanks for your time and knowledge!

[@GixxerFoo]

My pleasure!

[@MrPAULONEAL]

I would recommend the Street tuner and auto tune pro.

[@newsnowadirondacksredux360]

Cam plate and oil pump when doing the cams.

[@chrisbryant9621]

Good advice as always! Not only for new riders but also for seasoned riders with a new project. Don't let emotion drive your decision. Kudos to those that get it right the first time.

[@GixxerFoo]

Well said!

[@adrielbarrios4559]

Awesome video as always. Could you discuss going turbo? Specifically on an 88 twin cam. Thank you!!

[@GixxerFoo]

Great suggestion!

[@ejgrace420]

I'm trying to choose between buying a new Road King Custom 114 or building my Slim S 110. Cuz I hear of the power them new M8s are producing. Great video n thanks for the info for the ppl that dont have a clue or are new to motorcycles. Always love from Upstate Ny

[@johnliotta2583]

Where in upstate ny? I live in the lower to mid hudson valley by West point military academy.

[@ejgrace420]

@@johnliotta2583 Canada is my backyard. You go as high north as you can in ny on near the St. Lawrence River. My bros n some family live down near Albany n Hudson.

[@johnliotta2583]

@@ejgrace420 ok very Kool. Ride safe and God bless.

[@GixxerFoo]

I wouldn't let that S model go for anything!

[@ejgrace420]

@@GixxerFoo lol no no it's not going anywhere I'm keeping it as well so I'll own 4 Harleys when I do buy my new road king.

[@dominicminichiello7834]

I find all your videos very informative. I am going to take your advice and see what rpm’s I usually ride in and then decide on what cam to go with but to me the wood cam sounds like the one that is best suited for me.I live in the city of Vaughan in Ontario Canada I just wish I didn’t have to pay all these shipping fees when I order parts. If there is any way around this let me know.

[@mickeygaines007]

I think the big first step that is missing is have a nice long talk with an experienced, qualified builder before you spend several hundred on anything. Things like make sure to get an exhaust that will perform well with the build you are looking at. Tons of little things at play here and if you don’t know what you’re doing, you can easily turn out with a result that doesn’t make you happy. So if you know you are going to be building up, talk to a reputable builder before spending a dollar on upgrades.

[@WAKO426]

Would a power commander be worth putting on a magnetti marveling on 01 cvo with stage 1?

[@phillipwagner7347]

Great videos keep them coming!! What tuner would you recommend for the 2000 ElectraGlide ultra classic with the 88”?

[@GixxerFoo]

Thank you, I appreciate it! Being a 2000 FI it is going to have the Magnetti Marelli system, the MM system can be very finicky. When they work they are fine but if you make changes and start having issues it can become a real headache. Really the only tuner out there for that system is the Power Commander V.

[@georgeveneziano2754]

My buddy just did a 95 ci big bore kit. He's at over 950 miles still smoking pretty bad. He's builder says not to worry it will break in mine 400 miles it was perfect no smoke. Same kit what do you think? Thank again videos are awesome. .

[@GixxerFoo]

Something is for sure not right there, rings or something.

[@georgeveneziano2754]

@@GixxerFoo thank you it's what we thought also should he keep riding it ? Or take it in,?

[@CPerreault]

More great info, thanks. My '06 Deluxe TC88 has 50k miles on it and compression is at 125 psi both cylinders. I am considering upgrading the cam setup to hydraulic with higher lift cams. Should I go ahead and refresh the cylinders at this point or do they still have enough life in them and wait to rebuild the top end at a later date?

[@BillyBlaze7]

dig the vintage logo T

[@GixxerFoo]

Thank you!

[@gw10758]

So my 2014 Ultra Limited says "Screaming Eagle" on the air cleaner and has what looks like a better flowing exhaust. It is still a "dog" in my mind though.. Does this mean it already has a "stage 1" setup so I can start now at stage 2?

[@exexpat11]

First! First! First! Get it where you feel comfortable riding it. If you are not comfortable you will not ride it. It will sit in the garage and will become a low mileage sell to someone that will appreciate your loss. If you don't feel comfortable you will not even want to upgrade it to begin with. Get the seat where you want it, the bars where you are comfortable holding on to it, leg position where you are not cramped up or barely reaching the controls. Doing a test ride will gloss over comfort flaws because you are wanting to get a bike. I had a garage sitter. Handlebars were too far forward/low and my knees were above my hips. Forward controls and raised bars made it an everyday rider. Now I am spending money on tires and oil!

[@brandot.7466]

Thanks for all the great content you are great !!!!!!!!!

[@GixxerFoo]

I appreciate that!

[@darealshaft9735]

I’m waiting on my first bike, should have it in 4-6 weeks. Are brand new bikes not tuned from the factory?

[@GixxerFoo]

New bikes have a very very lean tune to meet emission requirements. I bought a new one in 2016 and it was super lean. It was apparent it felt like it was starving for fuel and it would stutter and cough back through the throttle body. Definite sign of being lean, road for a year like that and tuned it with a FuelPak 3, major improvement! Difference was night and day on it, but the new M8 does handle the lean tune much much better.

[@drummerdm1016]

Good advice Thank you

[@GixxerFoo]

Glad it was helpful!

[@thewheel2023]

Thanks cool explanation!

[@paulhorvath9784]

Is there a big difference Regarding Long term Reliability of the bike between a Flash and a Dyno. I had my previous 18 xl1200cx Roadster Dynoed at a HD Dealership ( stage 1 ) which put out 79lb and 80 bhp which ran great part from Excessive Backfire but it also started using a Quart of oil every 1000 Ks..Very Reluctant to Tune my 20 FXLRS by Anyone now..

[@GixxerFoo]

Not really in terms of reliability, flash tuner will get you a great map and the bike will run very well. Dyno in my opinion is hard on the motor, but it's the only way to get a real true fine tune.

[@Jimmy_Jim_Jim_1234]

First thing first, make it reliable. Such as oil pump, primary...

[@chrisdawson8252]

Great idea

[@GixxerFoo]

Great point!

[@craven9388]

What about air cleaners? Is there a big difference between an open air intake and a Hypercharger?

[@GixxerFoo]

On stock displacement any style of high flow air cleaner will produce roughly the same amount of power. When we get into larger engines 117 up for example, that's when the style of air cleaner really starts to play a major part.

[@richardanderson4916]

With a flash tuner I need to take the bike to a dyno correct? What about an auto tuner like Thundermax? Excuse my ignorance, but if I put the Thundermax on, won't it tune the bike pretty close by itself? I guess the question that I have is can I use the same thundermax tuner over and over again as I make upgrades for better performance piece by piece?

[@GixxerFoo]

If you have a flash tuner you can map your bike yourself with a map that matches your setup, same thing with the ThunderMax. When you buy one if you have a basic setup like exhaust, air cleaner, maybe a cam or big bore kit depending where you buy the tuner life Fuel Moto for example they will send it preloaded with a map to match your specs for you to flash. Now if you have head work, something they can't exactly match perfectly you'll need to take it to a tuner with a dyno.

[@Prairie_Barbarian]

I have a 1998 FXDL, stage 2. On the stage 1 end of it, I did pipes, breather, and a performance carb kit. On the electrical side it has a Screaming Eagle 40K volt coil, Sumac wires/iridium plugs, and a 40amp Compufire stator. What kind of ignition system would you recommend running in it? My bike feels like it has more to give but I've never really messed with the timing on it. Thanks, foo

[@GixxerFoo]

Ignitions can really be hit or miss on those bikes. Dynatec is a a pretty good one, with aftermarket ignitions it seems like they have more failures. Dynatec has seemed to hold up pretty well, S&S isn't bad, but l've seen a few of those fails. Could of just been a run though. A little timing goes a long ways!

[@Prairie_Barbarian]

@@GixxerFoo Appreciate it! I prolly should have mentioned it has an EV 27 cam. Think it'll pair with a Dynatec just fine, or did I end up putting myself in a corner going with that cam?

[@linru992]

Which upgrade do you recommend first: handle bars or seat? I have an '08 harley Fat Bob and I'm 5'11. The stock drag bars are too low and the seat doesn't put be back far enough: I sit on top of the seat during long trips. I also pull on the bars to fight the wind. I'm considering yaffee sport monkey bars or short apes either 10" or 12". For seats: I'm considering a saddle man extended seat. My bike is stock with forward controls and will not be changed. What are your thoughts?

[@GixxerFoo]

They really need to be done together, but if I had to pick one first I'd personally go with the seat. Having drag bars there isn't much adjustment there though.

[@Duey_diditGarage]

Well said

[@jefflagrimas6205]

Thank you, very informative. I’m fixing up my wife’s 08 1200, pipes and air cleaner what tuner do you recommend? I’m not going any further as far as performance and it pops like crazy ... lean. Or can it just be mapped out on the stock controller?

[@GixxerFoo]

I would recommend the Power Vision if you have multiple bikes between 2007 and 2012. You can buy a license and tune your other bikes for about 200 bucks, save you buying another tuner. The FP3 is way easier to use but you would need another tuner for a different bike. Both are very capable but the Power Vision is easier to get tuned on a dyno. They are about the same price now and both do the same thing, just PV is more accepted by dyno tuners with their heavy investments in it.

[@jefflagrimas6205]

@@GixxerFoo Thanks Bruddah, as I do have a ‘12 SG also and you’re saying I can use a PV for both?

[@GixxerFoo]

Yeah they both have the J-1850 electrical system. 2014 they went to can-bus and that's a different connection. So the Power Vision would work for both bikes, you would have to buy a license which is like 200 bucks or so for another bike. A lot cheaper than another 450 for an additional tuner.

[@terencebigt3825]

Great video and information. So i have a 2012 RG with 103. I have a stage 1 with a SE street tuner and V&H 2 into 1 pro-pipe with SE heavy breather. It runs okay but i want to increase my passing power. I’m thinking on upgrading to a Thundermax tuner and Woods TW 222 cams. What are your thoughts? Thank you!

[@GixxerFoo]

Sounds great! That's a solid combination, it will get you what you're after and then some!

[@terencebigt3825]

@@GixxerFoo thanks! Appreciated!

[@johnstrickland9545]

Great video

[@jammer_6245]

As always great video !!!!

[@GixxerFoo]

I appreciate that!

[@jameskeppner317]

Why hasn’t Harley comeback with a dirt bike cousin had a mx 175 as a kid wicked bike

[@oldrlh]

Cheers from Australia mate. great vids.

[@GixxerFoo]

Thanks 👍

[@Mr1972z]

Do you have any information on a Harley Davidson FXR upgrades? Or do you already have a video? Thanks.

[@GixxerFoo]

The videos that would fit for the FXR would be the EVO videos currently. I also have one on suspension upgrades. FXR's are a hot ticket item right now, prices are going up on those

[@Mr1972z]

@@GixxerFoo thank you bro!

[@donaldbaker7022]

If I put1200 beull heads on my 05 1200 Harley Sportster what does it do for performance

[@chalibanec1]

Good timing. Flash tuner or Dyno tune? Need choose to finish my stage one

[@gdubbsmotolife9713]

Stage one no need to dyno, really. You'll need a flash tuner first either way. Quality tuners can upload solid canned stage1 tunes to your bike's ecu. Very easy to do.

[@chalibanec1]

@@gdubbsmotolife9713 but the flash tuner is same price like Dyno. And I'm not sure if I will use the tuner later on. I'm planing stage 2 next year.. if tuner I think power vision..

[@GixxerFoo]

If you're going to Dyno Tune the power vision is the way to go. That's what most dyno shops use anyhow and it's good to have the tuner so you can make modifications if you need or want to later down the road.

[@DanNevis]

Yes Sir thats xactly what WAS done on my 03 Nighttrain only thinng left would be open case for bigger bore. .Now I didn,t even hear the standard mention of THe Thunder-max w/ato tune! LOL. Great information!! PEACE!!!

[@GixxerFoo]

ThunderMax is awesome, it's worth the extra money but it is so hard to convince people to pay twice the money. Wideband tuning is the way to go, autotuning is very close to a dyno run. Not perfect but as close as you can get.

[@DanNevis]

@@GixxerFoo Yes I like it so far. So hey whats your thoughts on "Vance & Hines" shorty staggered , no baffle gimmick AND the torque cones. Torque cones being my question.....Thanks

[@gsxrjct733]

Is that bike behind you a dyna with FL touring front end?

[@traceydevlin7066]

Nope. I think its a XL1200X Sportster 48.

[@trueman1326]

I have a 2022 Lowrider S. My local H.D dealer said they cannot find the map, nor which tuner to tune my bike. I don’t know what’s going on. Could you help ?

[@GixxerFoo]

For real? Power Vision has tuners as well as Vance and Hines...

[@trueman1326]

@@GixxerFoo thanks so much for your response I’ll look into this. Enjoy your videos every time.

[@loucurti]

Morning, So this is my situation. Have a 2021 Street glide special. I installed slip on mufflers and have a high flow air cleaner. If I wanted to get it to perform a little better should I put a tuner in there or should I leave it the way the factory mapped it ?

[@GixxerFoo]

A canned tune from a Power Vision or a FuelPak3 would do wonders for your bike, night and day difference after a tune. They run a lot cooler when they are getting some fuel. The M8 does run a lot better with the leaner air fuel ratios from the factory than the twin cam, I am assuming you are under warranty so Screamin Eagle Street Tuner is the one to use to keep your warranty intact. The Screamin Eagle tuner still has the lean air fuel ratio but it will adjust the proper parameters for your mufflers and air cleaner.

[@Bones6856]

I have a ?. I bought a set of just big bore cylinders for my 883 can I use the stock heads and cams with it or do I haft to change them

[@GixxerFoo]

You can use the same heads and cams, you'll have a different piston for the 883 heads. To change over to 1200 heads you'll need a different piston if you decide to change the heads. But for a big bore kit you'll have the pistons that match the 883 heads if you buy it as a kit.

[@stevesayers1941]

i just bought a 2023 fatboy i want a new s&s cam. should i just get the s&s cam plate and oil pump or is the 2023 oil pump and plate good enough?? thanks man!

[@mickeygaines007]

Check your crank runout first. I think the S&S plate and pump only allow a tolerance of up to .005. They allow for much less slop than the stock and if your crank isn’t true enough you’ll do more harm than good with the S&S. Is the S&S better? Yes. Is stock sufficient? Yes again.

[@ChillidogTWMF]

Do you know of manufacturer that produces 11;1 compression pistons for ‘17 FXDWG? I’ve looked for Wiseco but none greater than 10.5;1. KB s are not an option for me don’t think their pistons hold up very well .

[@GixxerFoo]

Zippers sells CP pistons, they make some pistons in the 11:1 range.

[@jimedward8908]

Awesome vid

[@momule55]

since I have a carbed 02 88 none of this really applies?

[@tommyweese5697]

First step- shit loads of research. Second step tuner. Third air filter and exhaust. Fourth cams and pushrods. Fifth throttle body and depending on year model do injectors. Last big bore and heads at the same time

[@GixxerFoo]

It's very beneficial to get it all done at once, most don't like the up front cost but it saves in the long run.

[@tommyweese5697]

@@GixxerFoo I haven’t done mine all at once. But the way I said, keeps going in twice to a minimum until the very end when everything has to get torn down. And if you do it over the course of a few years it’s probably gonna need new gaskets somewhere in there anyway lol do it once or at least do it smart

[@craven9388]

Do you wrench for a living?

[@GixxerFoo]

I worked in shops for years doing just about every job there, but I mainly just work on my own bikes these days.

[@angel2you]

Hay your sitting too low I can't see the shelf any longer.lol thanks for the info

[@theChestnutMtnTinman]

Good recommendations 😎😎

[@mdwillowswillows5414]

Do u think I go any big I 88ss 10.2.1positions/ w6 cam. What u think. I no mommy sad it time to do a video on 🚜. 😀👍👍👍👍👍⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@alvinmay5928]

I am waiting for a video that explains what H.D. did beginning with the twin cam re; the shotty, cheap, pressed flywheel. This has been the cause of multiple serious issues. After much research, I had my flywheel true'd, welded and balanced by Darkhorse. Then anything you spend is building on a proper foundation. My opinion is that H.D. has been building a overpriced home on a sand foundation for 20+ years.I am amazed at how many H.D. riders I talk to that do not understand the "runout" issues these pressed flywheels have. It has caused issues on both ends of the bike. Yes, it was expensive as I paid for the motor work. My point is that the more power you add coupled with aggressive driving,(fun, fun) can make the crank runout even worse, magnifying an already bad issue even worse. Maybe you have already touched on this and I missed it. It was your video on cam upgrades that got me going in the 1st place. I found a great s&s pro-tune dealer to help me. That is when I decided to go all in. I am now stage 3 on a very sound, smooth power plant. Thanks. Keep the video's coming. I really like your style.

[@GixxerFoo]

I actually have a couple videos about the Twin Cam about why they did some of the things they did. This one cover how the Twin Cam came to be kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZ-4c2OZp7F0fpI, this one explains some information on the cranks kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYTQoZKjrMSNmK8.

[@HammerHeadGarage]

When I build these engines I find out what the customer wants. Then build it on paper. Do all the engine math, compression, quench, cams etc.

[@robertbrewer2179]

I hate adjustable pushrods. Once you have one back off you will too.

[@leonardstanford1877]

Please discourage anyone that does the whole thing or just a big bore from going directly to the dyno ! A fresh motor should have 5 to 700 miles on it before going to the dyno ! A good dyno tuner should tell u this up front but I know that is not always the case ! The bike needs break in miles ! I just installed a screaming eagle 110 kit for a guy & with 18 miles on the bike he went to the dyno & now his bike uses oil ! Gee No Shit !

[@josephtilotta9974]

Just to change the chain tensioners you have to change..cam plate..new oil pump new chain just for 1 fix. Sad.

[@larrys.3992]

Nice tee shirt!

[@GixxerFoo]

Thanks!

[@asquared7861]

BRO! You fell through the floor of your garage!?! You need some help??

[@chrisdawson8252]

So humble. So grounded. Inspirational

[@jeffreycarroll5920]

#1 thing is get that trash out of the cam chest with the M8’s

[@psychoslingers8732]

I just found that out at 4,000 miles. Tons of weak trash in that cam chest and top end.

[@asquared7861]

BRO! What happened to your legs??!!

[@chrisdawson8252]

They're resting on forward controls

[@minnesotabymotorcycles4773]

Sell it. buy a bike thats good from stock. More power in a harley almost always equals less reliability. Touring bikes should go 100000 plus with nothing but routine maintenance. I guess my standards are too high. Harleys are only good for flipping, money pits otherwise. Shame for such nice looking bikes to have subpar engines in the 21st century.