Getting a raise in USA be like 🤣

[@tygrahof9268]

Love how corporations can make getting a RAISE a BAD thing...

[@trendel13]

Corporate: well we have to make sure that when you get a raise we do too. We can't just give people money without taking more back that's socialism.

[@tygrahof9268]

@@trendel13 Socialism is a good thing compared to CRIMINAL CORPORATISM...

[@mrkdavis22]

my last job removed raises all together & added a 3 monthly challenge to meet for a 50$ dollar pay bonus across the board by working twice as harder & faster then cut everyone's hours by a 3rd to make up for it 😑

[@hereturbie7458]

Let's play make believe... Corporate: In order to keep your wages up with inflation and offset effects like an upward movement on the tax bracket, you will each be receiving an x% wage increase. Additionally, one time bonuses based on the agreed upon metrics have been allocated that are separate from these raises to eligible employees. Lastly, Corporate notes that management track will periodically evaluate promising employees who appear to have sufficient ability not based purely on how many hours you work, but on ability. In order to avoid favoritism, the process has been made as transparent as possible for your individual review. Corporate wanted to offer a pleasant surprise for this news, so today will be a half day with full day pay and no strings attached. Thank you for your time.

[@tygrahof9268]

@@hereturbie7458 Corporations are making record profits, Fact. Corporations are gouging Americans, fact. They can give raises AND be headed in America but choose not to, fact. One CEO of a military contracting corporation made $900 MILLION last year, Sickening fact.

[@narutoroxanne22]

"no one is grateful"... You mean because people can do math 🤣

[@miloelite]

☝️This.

[@0manoscar]

That's not how the math works, though. Let's say the employee makes $20/hour. That's $800/week. They get a five percent raise. That's $1/hour, or $40/week. Lunches increase by 10 percent, but it's 10 percent of $5, so fifty cents per day, which is $2.50/week. Let's say the employee pays $100/week for insurance, and it increases by 7 percent. That's $7/week. So in short, the employee earns $40 more per week, and has to pay an additional $9.50 per week. The employee got an effective raise of $30.50 per week, or a little over 3.8 percent.

[@notthatyouasked6656]

I once went to a timeshare presentation, but declined because it made no sense financially. They asked me why they didn't get my business that day. I told them, "because I understand how math works."

[@narutoroxanne22]

​​​@@0manoscarAdd the higher tax bracket.

[@0manoscar]

@@narutoroxanne22 The higher bracket only applies to the portion of income in excess of the lower bracket. Let's say they jump from the ten percent bracket to the twelve percent bracket; they only pay twelve percent on the extra $40/week. That's $4.80.

[@MCChubbyUnicorn]

"You might be in a new tax bracket " The money made beyond said bracket gets taxed more, not all of the money. It is a bit confusing, but still.

[@jonathandpg6115]

it's really not confusing, people are just dishonest. Really it's quite logical that way

[@anvilsbane]

Taxation is theft. That about wraps it up.(income tax)

[@mikezerker6925]

I actually cut back to 70 hrs per 2 weeks instead of working 80 hours after I got a raise… I ended up with almost the same take home pay at 70 hours vs 80 hours.

[@anvilsbane]

@@mikezerker6925 Ah, see? Mike gets it. You said you got a raise, then cut back hours? That’s the ticket! I don’t WANT MORE HOURS. I WANT MORE MONEY PER HOUR. Most don’t make that breakthrough.👍

[@blacky_Ninja]

@@anvilsbane Yeah, but maybe they just want more money so that they can afford to eat or live better or whatever. Cutting back hours wouldn‘t really help with that. And these BS „raises“ wouldn’t help either.

[@firesidewithsumgai9932]

Welcome to this week's installment of 'How to encourage quiet quitting'

[@Squeekysquid]

Pretty sure this encourages regular quitting.

[@ARedMotorcycle]

Grateful for what? 😡

[@RobertDandino]

“I do not accept the pay increase, but thank you for the offer.”

[@ANARCHY.050]

“No problem, but everything else will still change, thank you for not taking from the company!” :)

[@Magical_Trash]

@@ANARCHY.050😭😭😭

[@RobertDandino]

@@ANARCHY.050 “here’s my two weeks.” Take control of your life…

[@clashdevil2925]

​@@ANARCHY.050 "here is my 1 week notice"

[@da11king]

That's stupid lol everything else will still go up 😂

[@nattyw495]

The question to ask is how much is the CEOs raises this quater?

[@nathanbrady8529]

Executives tend to not take much in the way of salaries because they don't want to pay the taxes. The bulk of their "compensation" is bonuses and stock options, because those incomes are taxed at a much lower rate than wages. That's how you end up with executives making $100k in salary, but getting $10M as a bonus.

[@flyingfalcon8999]

Don't forget that it never keeps up with inflation.

[@kramer1372]

..never

[@ChaplainChristineMercy]

“In that case, I don’t want a raise, thank you!”

[@TheRazorTongue]

No. I don’t want any increases on bills.

[@jonathandpg6115]

you do want a wage increase don't fall for the trap of veronica lying to you. It's evil

[@jayt4701]

Five steps forward, seventeen back!

[@jaredroussel]

She should be fired for her math skills...

[@arkitakama7]

Right? Firstly, tax brackets aren't applied like that, they only apply to the amount over what was covered by previous brackets. So you're still paying only 10% on your first 10k, and only 12% on everything afterward up to 25k, you're just now paying 15% on everything beyond that to 50k. Secondly, the percentage increase to your insurance costs isn't taking that percentage of your whole check, it's just 7% more than what you were already paying. So for example, if you were paying $150 per check for your insurance, you'll now be paying an additional $10.50. Also, that's pretax, so it lowers your tax bill anyway. And finally, 10% additional on your $5 meal is just 50¢. So Veronica is complaining over nothing because she can't do math. ETA: The tax brackets I described aren't accurate to actual tax brackets, I'm just using these numbers as examples.

[@jaredroussel]

@@arkitakama7 Yeah. You don't just add random percentages around that aren't even describing the same quantities. This video ended up proving a worse point about the painful combination of stupid and entitled. If I was that manager, I would have been like, "Your Excel privileges have been revoked. You can take an unpaid mental health day to review your elementary math school books and check your attitude. In the meantime, we'll reevaluate your performance."

[@burningshine5524]

​@@arkitakama7while you are correct, its still losing extra money. 50 cents x 20 is 10 additional dollars. Plus 10 for insurance. Its not very much, but you are still getting screwed over, as there is no reason why shouls those increase. Ans with inflation, you are not evwn making more money.

[@Icewind007]

Meanwhile, executives and CEO are getting another 20% increase in pay with extra year end bonuses for tanking the company into the ground.

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

Your comment is exactly one of the many many reasons on why I'm grateful for not having a real job.

[@kramer1372]

100%

[@codygarton7177]

Well…. When you throw percentages around like this it’s hard to actually track how much money you will be making/paying, I think if you do math, you will still be making more from your pay raise then what you will be paying from now on, the lunch raise would only be fifty cents, not bad at all, now the insurance payment is a little harder to track but I’m confident you will still be making more money

[@jonathandpg6115]

for sure she would

[@Apes2man]

Assumptions aside, I'm thinking the increase in other areas brings the raise down to an average cost of living increase.

[@notyou6950]

This is worth another “Office Space” sequel.

[@TheFirstPotato]

Clearly corporate isn't grateful for the work being put in. If we're getting a 17% punishment, you're going to get a 17% reduction in work productivity. Sounds like a fair tradeoff.

[@mateuszkrytyk5711]

Math ain't mathing

[@douglasmccoy5414]

And higher ups wonder how competitors get advanced info on projects.

[@Teadrinker-zy1yp]

She probably pays more in taxes than the Corp who employs her.

[@NathanTaub]

That's not how tax brackets work

[@jscan4442]

Says the guy that doesn't even pay taxes.

[@NathanTaub]

​@jscan4442 I paid about 40% of my income in taxes last year, and even more the year before. There is no cutoff at which your net income goes down despite your gross income going up, each bracket only applies to income within that bracket. So for example, if your post-deduction income increases from $47,150 (the bracket cutoff for single filers going from 12% to 22%) to $47,250, your taxes go up by $22, not $4,725. Same applies to state taxes.

[@longWriter]

^ true. They could've left out the tax bracket stuff, and the short would've worked just as well, honestly.

[@Mark73]

The manager knows. She's just trying to get them to turn down the raise.

[@mrmonokel2335]

@@longWriter it wouldnt have. Calling it a „17% increase“ is completely wrong, since it is 2 percentages applied to different costs. Lunch went up by 10% - if something else goes up by 7% it doesnt make it a total increase of 17%. We don’t even know the 2nd number.

[@infini.tesimo]

Getting a raise! = It's coming out from somewhere else to double the CEOs paycheck

[@psychronia]

How about we take a 5% pay cut and an increased discount and insurance contribution instead?

[@flyboymb]

A smart manager would have announced the raise in person then sent out a very wordy e-mail with the downsides intermixed with subjects like "photo of employee pet of the month" and "office fitness that can be done from the desk".

[@jesseleeward2359]

Like when I was at the stationary store in Georgia

[@williamdesmarais4931]

The last company I was with had a $3.00 an hour retention "bonus" in lieu of a regular raise. The company was already on the lower end of the pay scale. The bonus was paid out at the end of the year in one lump sum. They decided to get rid of the bonus and give out raises. A few employees got $3.00 an hour raise. Most got $1.00 or nothing. Basically most of us got a $2.00 to $3.00 pay deduction. And they tried to justify it by saying that we would pay less in taxes. A lot of people either left the company or just no longer had the heart to give their all at work and production just dropped.

[@BI-11y_TheStormTrooper]

As it should, they screwed you over in pay so screw over their pay as well.

[@sagarsriva]

5% is good. Reality is like 2%

[@colelawton2939]

I need to clarify something because this is a really specific thing everyone gets wrong: The higher tax bracket does NOT tax your whole income at the new tax rate. That's why it's a bracket, only the money you make above the line of that bracket is taxed at the higher rate. If your income tax is 20% up to 50k, and 30% until 80k, and you make 60k, your paying 20% on the first 50k and 30% on that last 10k. Just a PSA.

[@MisterZalem]

I got one percent increase this year even though I got great reviews...Jesus Christ truly saves cause I felt a murderous rage hit me- then felt the holy Spirit throw that bundle of multi-felony energy like a burning microwave.

[@edwardoleyar9825]

That's why the only new bracket I look forward to is the next age bracket for the Army ACFT.

[@silviaconsonni586]

"we will have to"

[@MuzixMaker]

Veronica can’t do math.

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

Veronica can do math because if anyone should be paying more taxes it should be CEOS and not the employees working their asses off.

[@MuzixMaker]

@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr you think CEOs don’t work their asses off?

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

@@MuzixMaker , most CEOS in Sony nowadays inherit their job positions.

[@MuzixMaker]

@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr were not talking about nepotism

[@coolxdmx3]

"No one is grateful!?" Woman you basically told us we.are losing -12% of of salary. Screw that

[@sirraulo9002]

😂 This is whats happening every minimum wage hike. Prices also goes up even more.

[@TheLeijosa]

Prices go up regardless of wage increases. It’s why wage increases need to happen.

[@phastinemoon]

It’s not.

[@jscan4442]

@@TheLeijosa So you're telling me a $10 Big Mac was going to happen REGARDLESS of a minimum wage increase? Have another sip of your Kool-Aid. 🙄

[@psychronia]

​@@jscan4442There are cities where minimum age is increased and burger prices remained the same. Minimum wage has remained the same in other cities and burger prices have only climbed.

[@rickhelsdon5357]

I guess this has a modicum of truth ,I wonder about the people who thought up the whole pay rise ,health insurance ,tax bracket scenario how can they treat their employees like that and how do they sleep at night.

[@sickofcrap8992]

Giant corporations only give a 3% or less raise to the actual workers. Mgmt gets higher raises as well as already making 6 figures, or more. They can then afford all the additional fees. The workers go into the hole more and more each year.

[@jonathandpg6115]

the tax bracket thing is false. A lot of people don't actually understand how it works. The higher tax is only on the higher amount. For example Let`s say you live in new york and let's look at state tax to keep it simple. For single people there is a tax bracket that begins at 80,650 If you make 80,000 you pay 600$ + 5.5% for anything over 13,900. That would be: calculate the amount to be taxed at that bracket:80,000 - 13900 = 66,100 Calculated the 5.5% rate of the amount to be taxed at bracket ((66,100)/100)*5.5 = $3,635.5 Adding the previous brackets amount to the current tax bracket. = 4,235.5 Results the taxes would be $4,235.50 for someone making $80,000 -------- So what happens when someone makes just a bit more (81,000) and hits the next tax bracket So you are taxed 4,271 for the last tax bracket. (it's 600 + 5.5% of 80,650-13,900)). and then are only charged 6% on any amount OVER 80,650. 81, 000 - 80,650 = 350 (350/100)*6 = 21 Add the 21$ + 4,271 =. 4,292 So you made 80,000 and where taxed 4,235.5 Now you make 81,000 and are taxed $4,292 You still end up on top. A LOT OF PEOPLE get this wrong and I don't understand why. In todays age the information is accessible

[@jonathandpg6115]

@@sickofcrap8992Except for the last few years which where super high in inflation as we head towards a recession, 3% was outpacing the wage of inflation. So I think these type of comments are disingenuous at best.

[@Doors067]

Top level employees: 5% raise means were making 50 grand more a year that offsets these increases for us Veronica: ....

[@Wyndamn]

Got damn this is so depressing 😭😭😭

[@Lightningcount4]

While funny, they cant actually change the insurance in the middle of the contract. The ACA does not consider annual payment increases to be a life changing event when it comes to changing your health insurance. The lunch one is funny and 100 percent would happen.

[@ALrinea]

This is the reason why we dont do these things openly to cheat pur employees out of their money.

[@Bobalini1]

"Raises" pay but increases costs at the company store. Gon' die with great grandpappi in the coal mines with this one! Sign me up for the rebellion before the Pinkertons get here

[@CyclingMartialartswithMusic]

I had a manager who bragged about an 18 cents increase to me.

[@peterdisabella2156]

The tax bracket thing isnt really an issue tho

[@craigholland2274]

💯. A lot don't understand marginal tax brackets

[@Puggy42069]

It’s a progressive tax rate so this raise is good.

[@sagarsriva]

It's more like 2% increase for top performers 😢

[@Draconiangem]

Nah if it’s retail they will just cut your hours and hire less people since payroll shrinks.

[@Kilotip1]

Sounds about right.

[@darthkobe73]

This hit me hard 😢

[@sarahsayshello9726]

My boss amounced today everyones gettings a .5% pay increase. Thats 11 cents folks. I started at him with my rbf the ladt 20 seconds of him talking was just us starinh at each other while he tries to amp it up

[@sn6owe]

You get raises in the US? Here in Italy only prices for stuff raise, the avg salary has been pretty much the same for at least 20 years.

[@schwarzerritter5724]

Why would an employer pay your health insurance?

[@commonviewer2488]

Not American? You see, the government refuses to implement *s¤ci@lis+* reforms like universal health care, and have us pay for severely inflated medical costs. Many can only afford insurance provided their employer, deducted from their paycheck

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

The employer should be paying their employees heath insurance otherwise socialized medicine should be mandatory in the United Nations.

[@retrogaming8415]

These corporations better be grateful is that we're not calling for another Blair Mountain.

[@pepleatherlab3872]

Meanwhile the Federal Reserve itself manages a 2% loss of the dollar's value EVERY year for the last twenty years. The U.S. worker is ice skating uphill against the wind, and politicians act confused as to why so many are dropping out of the job market. An unmanaged central bank and the politically 'bought' have toppled more than a few governments.

[@cameronc9556]

Remember when there used to be an incentive to work hard? It’s gone now. And I feel like that is by design now. My coworker worked 12 hrs on 8hr shifts for weeks and I hardly ever see the guy take lunch. He told me the lion share of his OT went to taxes. When we get a raise (tax), when we do over time (tax), when we inherit (tax), when we buy (tax), when we sell (tax), when we get tips (tax), when we own land (tax), when we own collectables (tax), and when we die (tax). Was it always this way! When did the government get so dang greedy!?

[@ericsmith1517]

from the start is wasn't this way. income tax was illegal until the 16th amendment.

[@johnfeight2123]

They have always been greedy you just finally noticed it. Sorry you had to find out the hard way. But it was going to happen eventually 🥴😩.

[@ChaplainChristineMercy]

You get taxed for breathing and taxed when you don’t. That’s why soooo many people remain poor, whilst a few in comparison strive at all odds to remain rich. It’s a sorry state of affairs for sure. 😵‍💫

[@radolfkalis4041]

The more you make, the more they take.

[@FOUR22]

You guys get a yearly increase 😂

[@YolkyList206]

Damn sick animations, did you also voice it too?

[@ethandark1232]

Hey you get a 5% raise which then we will deduct 2% for tax, 6% health insurance, also 3.5% for pension and 0.8% church tax, also you have to pay more for your lunch and since inflation is raised by 12% good luck with that also cost for energy gets raised by 8% so yeah. In other words you get actually a 7% pay cut due to the raise and living cost greatly increases as well. Thats corporate, if you were to work 6 hours less a week you would not get a cut of 7% so working for less hours and more money not more money and hours is more cost effective.

[@cmar4076]

EXACTLY THE WAY IT IS! 😡

[@bluethinggg]

Math is hard

[@talhaomair1455]

Time to look for a new job

[@hillbillydeluxe27]

I don’t live in the USA, what the f*ck is “health insurance”???

[@-AxisA-]

Remember going up tax brackets doesn't mean you will earn less money... With progressive tax there's different tax brackets and let's say the lowest bracket is 25k€ per year and let's say 10%, if the next bracket is 35k€ and 15% you will pay that 15% tax only off the 10k€ in that bracket and from that 25k€ you will pay the 10% you uses to pay. So if you have a pay of 70k€ a year and the company is trying to give you 80k€ a year and your tax bracket goes up, don't turn it down!:D You won't make less money, you will only pay more tax from every cent you make over that tax bracket limit.

[@TheRedBrethren]

Should reduce taxes and/or merge brackets

[@jonathandpg6115]

no need to merge brackets

[@alexdeadeye6905]

Next question would be: my chair you want it in the head right now or this instant?

[@aeonjoey3d]

This is not even fiction

[@patrickpromen3605]

"At least I don't have to worry about the tax bracket. I don't make enough for that to be an issue."

[@jonathandpg6115]

Even if you did, tax brackets don't work that way. You are only taxed the higher percentage on the portion of your pay that is higher than that bracket. It's ALWAYS WORTH a raise for tax bracket purposes. The only time it MIGHT be a problem is when you are on social assistance

[@DJSubAir]

Another channel stealing content and regenerating it via Ai, thanks for nothing

[@Nihil-2005]

While I agree with the sentiment overall, the 17% comment is just bad math.

[@brianhowells1547]

A little misleading with the % figures as they are %'s of different values

[@roboticintelligenceunit1a652]

Is this satire or actual america

[@susanrand512]

A 5% increase is not enough to kick you into another tax bracket.😅😊Do the math, they shouldn't have increased the luck prices, this is a crap show.

[@ants7279]

You could always cancel your health care,never used it and took up a junk of my pay & as for lunch I always bring my own food in a big backpack.

[@Quagthistle]

This is how it is on goivernment aid, too. We get a "record breaking" COLA increase to Social Security, say $50, and then our medicare costs go up $70 at the same time. Gee, I'll try not to spend that -$20 COLA increase all in one place...

[@Vitriol-Divergent]

Oh, capitalism ...built on the backs of the little guy.

[@MuzixMaker]

Yes Marxism is better.

[@radolfkalis4041]

Yeah, no one us greatful to get a little extra money in their pocket just to see their benefits go down enough they are loosing money. Ungreatful plebes.