GH - Luke and Laura - 1981 playlist p. 28

[@jennhunt1996]

OMG! I'm sitting here with my mouth open. Now I completely understand how the writers were able to move forward with L&L. This scene explains so much. Wow. Just Wow.

[@jacifertik7038]

Best years of GH indeed

[@bakers41]

I'm so confused. This old stuff is better than anything on TV nowadays

[@christineadams1284]

bakers41 It sure is better than anything on TV these days. This is all I watch, otherwise I am studying on YT.

[@kathylanda681]

Damn you most certainly sooo right. Thanks. RosieYes sorry it me Rosie I wrote something already...BUT TRUTH BE TOLD RIGHT NOW AM WATCHING THE BEST OF THE BEST AND I HAVE MY TV ON WITH A VERY SCARY MOVIE. I STILL CANT TAKE MY EYES OFF OF THE MOST WONDERFUL TV SOAP OPERA EVER! I have to say in all honest I get some much enjoyment from GH then I do on my TV ......JMVHO! Love GH all of the time⏱ Rosie!Oh so sorry my KZbin. Thanks!

[@sandyRndisco1]

@@christineadams1284 Yep, I stated earlier I have to go back 41-years in order to watch a good soap. Better than all the nonsense lying they have on tv nowadays with the fake news/programs/soaps/movies everything. This is my way of getting away from what's going on in the world now.

[@irmacavazos8186]

Me too! Especially now with what is happening in our world in 2024! 😢😢😅😅😅😅😅

[@TMM-c9z]

Love Luke and Laura's sit-down conversations; at restaurants, at the Campus Disco bar, at the student lounge, at the hospital cafeteria etc. They could always communicate in good times and in bad ... At least in 1979-1981.

[@sandyjuntunen4088]

I love how she says " You're stuck Luke." He should have known not to underestimate her anymore.

[@sussezq]

It really is... much better than ANYTHING on current day television!!!

[@ionestevens1846]

Because the writers today have NO IDEA HOW TO WRITE DIALOGUE!!!! They should seriously take a lesson from these classic GH clips

[@jacifertik7038]

I think I it's just the way MILLENNIALS are so thanks way there something definitely MISSING

[@melodyherman]

Such a poignant episode. I love being able to see this. I havent watched your playlists in almost a year. Im glad i have time to continue.

[@susanb1394]

“Rick, stop making father noises.” Hilarious!!

[@cleanfreak2005]

I read somewhere that Denise Alexander wasn't really happy working with Chris Robinson. I always thought that she was a very talented actor and could cry on a dime and give some of the best witty ad-libs. In 1985, Robinson was convicted of income tax evasion. He was allowed to continue his role on General Hospital under a prison work-release provision. Meanwhile they fired Denise for 'telling Genie to take a break from the show and get into rehab'. HMmmmm!!??!

[@christineadams1284]

Buzzy'sHelper I never felt Denise had any chemistry with Chris, she did with Michael Gregory. I was very upset when they switched actors for Rick. I loved Denise Alexander and getting rid of her was just sad.

[@lb1262dt]

@@cleanfreak2005 Wow!!😮. I never knew that!! She did?

[@cleanfreak2005]

@@christineadams1284 Yeah, I never warmed up to Chris Robinson, I always thought that Michael Gregory was the better actor and he had better chemistry with Denise. I'm always glad when they bring back Denise (Leslie). Remember when she told off Cyrus Renault !?! She is a jewel !!/:)

[@kathylanda681]

@@cleanfreak2005 See here we go again double standers for Men Virus Women ..... It’s the BOYS CLUB all over again! ... Then they have the audacity to call us bitches...... HELLO! Something don’t smell right to ME! JMVHO! Rosie never silent....sorry no disrespect to any who read this thank you. Rosie!

[@love2drive371]

I saw Tony Geary discuss the rape in an interview. He said it was scripted as rape, it was played as rape, and the powers that be at ABC said they had to change it and play it as seduction. Don't want to spoil but it was worked out later.

[@sussezq]

@CatchupGirl71 The newer viewers never saw this, so some think somehow that the fans of L&L condone rape and geez we were taken on such a ride which included re-writes as well, to make this couple work(once they made Luke Spencer stick around for more than 13 weeks). .part of the reason that made me want to post this. It is controversial.. but also so much more complicated than some choose to think. That controversy, complications is what made it such deep, thought provoking entertainment.

[@sussezq]

It was a RE-WRITE and we all knew it, and accepted it... because it meant we could watch and route for Luke and Laura with a clear conscience.. and we wanted to because there has never been anything like the chemistry between Tony Geary and Genie Francis. (which they realized after the fact) But it was there, did exist, so everyone who talks about the L&L fans as some sickos who condoned the act of a rapist just need to see the scene... doesn't matter what it was before this scene really.

[@sandyjuntunen4088]

I don't understand how grown women can't get past the rape of Laura turning into love. Kids, teenagers, yes. But most women have seen enough of relationships to know women can forgive almost anything. Even if a man hits them, they'll believe he's sorry bc they love him. They're NEVER sorry! But Luke was, and his pain was obvious and long. And over time, not only did he prove she could trust him, but he risked his life multiple times for her. Put that together with the fact she'd been attracted to him to start with, and he encouraged her to report it ( until it was no longer safe bc of Smith), it's very easy to believe. Considering the level of respect he always showed her, and the way Scotty never did, I don't get why anyone was surprised at all.

[@niskamelchionne1942]

She just said it wasn't rape. That Luke didn't rape her at the disco. She made it all up because she couldn't face the family and Scottie for what she did with Luke, both of them Made Love that now. Out of her mouth she said it. Look at the video again. I know I have to see if I heard right

[@fancyfrancy2244]

@@niskamelchionne1942I never saw it as rape because she didn’t even try to fight him off except to say no and I always figured she was really saying no to herself!

[@niskamelchionne1942]

@@fancyfrancy2244 she was in love with him that's why she even stayed in that episode he was telling her to leave and she didn't want to leave she wouldn't want to go . But there was a scene of them in a restaurant she went to go meet him this was years later and they were seeing each other she was divorced from Scotty then for some reason they broke up I think it was because when they got back to Port Charles and then they got separated because the reporters were saying where is your wedding ring to her and are you still married to Scotty and she said yeah I think then they broke up. Then after that Luke was mad at her he didn't want nothing to do with her and lawyer was trying to get back with him. They met up in a restaurant and she was saying that you didn't rape me to Luke that that didn't happen I was stun to hear that but she said that there wasn't a rape at all in the restaurant. And Luke was saying to her we talking about yes it was and she said no it wasn't no rape. But then after that they didn't really say anything much about that you know about her saying that it wasn't no rape no more episodes about that and then they was going back to her oh yes it was a rape I don't know

[@fancyfrancy2244]

@@niskamelchionne1942 Yeah, I wonder if they got pressured into making it considered a “rape”again even after her admittance of it not being one? Maybe women complained or they didn’t want to make light of real rape cases. Crazy because I never saw this restaurant scene before either!

[@niskamelchionne1942]

@@fancyfrancy2244 I know yes I never saw that seen either only one time and I saw it just right now in this present time so they did that scene just one time in the pass and only one time because that was never talk about again in that show

[@betsykeller9096]

They were changing the story, but about 20 years later, they did a great job of bringing it back, and giving it a grim reality that was necessary for closure for the characters and the fans. So, what we see now is the Laura that blocks things in her mind, that coping mechanism she uses, and years later when it comes back she and Luke talk it out in a really fantastic scene that is worth watching "Luke and Laura A Day of Reckoning" on YT.

[@sussezq]

Betsy Keller Yeah that's one way to look at it.

[@2006bbbb1]

IMHO I don't think the revisit of the rape was necessary. It was "required" because of the times that had changed in the late '90's. Society has become very sensitive about so many things. And now there is a need to overcompensate with things from the past. The past was the past, things were different, people were different. It is unwise to put today's values and mores onto another era. After all this show was just entertainment and Luke and Laura were fantasy. All of us in those days "knew" it was fantasy. That's what we loved about it. Years later, in a "reality" era, people wanted to throw cold water all over it. And nowadays people want to rob us of our joy of these two characters, because its the "in" thing to do. That's a sad commentary about this world today. Rant over, returning you back to your regular scheduled program. ;-)

[@dz7a756]

@@2006bbbb1 I agree that the past should be left in the past unless the past somehow has a way of rearing its ugly head in the future. LNL were such an iconic couple that did translate for some in such an emotional way that I think the writers did give the rape revisit some justice. It's significant for some to acknowledge that it was rape (can call it date rape)...especially with soaps drawing in a majority female audience. You would like to believe that truth, values and tenets stand the test of time no matter the era. So acknowledging that an intimate violation in a relationship like what took place between LNL is rape is a good thing...especially for scenes like this where Laura adopts a different philosophy 🙄. You are correct, LNL are fantasy and most should be able to divorce fantasy from reality. But I have come to appreciate for some, that is not always the case especially based on what they may have experienced. Just two cents to add to the conversation 😊.

[@kathylanda681]

@@dz7a756 Ok here is my two cents! It was just a soap a TV it’s our own soap opera fantasy . Something that day dreams from our reality . Some hum drum lives ...well for some . I mean who knows maybe some of our lives have to much drama? Look it made us sit up take notice and just go with it. For it was a fun filled escape others am not sure but GH had so many GH fans they could not keep up. TV shows, magaZine’s even on the evening news wow come on. Remember over 30 million people and fans together all can’t be wrong! Look GM and all the rest wrote and product this TV DY Time drama we the fans of GH just put on our TV sets seat back and enjoy era the times and the love that came our way thank you JMVHO. Much love and respect. Rosie.

[@gerardfonz]

Nope. As Laura just said. They made love at the disco. End of subject. The wonderful adventure began from here and the Wedding, the return with Lucky and getting Frank Smith and then LuLu's birth. Writers decided to recreate to make a political statement (note the Jackilyn Zeman ad when Elizabeth was raped). This was politics in hollywood. Now in 2021, it's much much worse.

[@archaeogeek25]

After watching the story from the beginning, I can see why Laura was conflicted over the rape, and now is admitting that it wasn't, that it was love. The way she acted after the rape, and the way they grew closer, she grew up. It may be confusing, but the way the writers handled the chemistry and the whole rape story was brilliant in a way. It was brutal and it was rape, but the aftermath turned out to be a brilliant love story.

[@suemcgee612]

archaeogeek25 imho the MOST brilliant love story.❤️

[@susanmartin313]

I wonder sometimes, what the original story had in store for Laura after the rape and when Luke died after the Mitch William's assassination

[@kathylanda681]

Yes it most certainly did. In the end I mean.... I just love Luke and Laura together. Yes thank you sooo much love Rosie

[@71olddog]

@stefan103 It was rape. Luke called it rape when he talked about it but there were several times when Laura said she didn't know if it was really rape because she wanted him. She is in denial about it and the look on his face when she says "just like we made love in the disco" shows that he knows she is in denial about what really happened. He knows he messed her up and that guilt carries over into what is going on with Luke on the show today.

[@zannemarie6591]

The rape is very complicated and it has to do with many things including the times in which this was written. You can't really look at that through the lens of today and have it make sense at all. In the 1970's when this is written, it's an acceptable writing trope, hard as that is to understand, to have a "forced seduction" and there were sociological reasons for that. You have to remember that this was written at the beginning of the rage of bodice rippers with all of their forced seduction scenes. Luke and Laura play very close to that model, the difference being that we're seeing it with two actors with amazing chemistry benefiting from amazing writing rather than in a bodice ripper. The reason for the popularity of bodice rippers and why this story could be turned to seduction during that time is because of the way women were viewed. Women were good girls or bad girls with no inbetween. If you were raped back then, it was your fault no matter what happened. It was the way you dressed or talked or where you were or whatever. In addition, the view of sex was still very repressed. The "free love" concept was still not generally accepted. Good girls did not have sex with men they didn't marry if they didn't want to be labeled and married girls/women who found out their lives were dull and a prison did not verbally acknowledge that anything was missing because that would get you labeled a bad girl. Hence the bodice ripper is born. It lets good girls off the hook. They can read about amazing chemistry and hot sex between couples because it's cloaked in rape. "She couldn't help it." Once the heroine is forced into it, she can gradually acknowledge she likes it and tame the wild, alpha male into marriage thereby making the whole thing legitimate. If you look at them through that lens and you know the story with the clips between Luke sabotaging the car and showing up at college to take classes, it starts to make more sense. Luke and Laura talked all the time. She confided in him a great deal about her real feelings. The bond was there already when she used the credit card to get Scotty's books. I don't think these clips include Scotty's reaction to that, but you see enough to see that Scotty infantalizes Laura and treats her more like a father than a husband. Luke is the one who understands why she did what she did and gives her a job to pay off the debt. He understands the need for independence. He has his own hang ups which is why he's attracted to her, but Laura is attracted to Luke exactly because there is a side of Laura that has always been wild. She ran away and joined a cult. She had an affair with Rick's friend at 15. Laura is not a goody two shoes but she feels she has to be so she suppresses that and tries to play the role of Doctor's daughter and Lawyer's wife. It's only Luke who can see Laura as she is and not judge her. Many, many of us who were older and saw the very early parts of Luke and Laura thought she was attracted to him before the rape scene. So when the rape occurs, knowing Laura's willingness to live in denial (see also David Hamilton's murder), we hear her say no, no, but we don't know what happens between then and afterward. We don't know if this is rape or forced seduction or just Laura can't accept that she has now slipped of the ledge of good girl to bad girl and can't face it. We don't know and any of those can be true. In addition, there is the common trope of the day which says good girl has forced seduction, realizes what she's been missing, complication bring her and anti-hero together and they fall in love. It's something recognizable and known in that time. The fact that she won't name him afterward just puts the nail in the coffin. Writing that there will always be a part of her that loves him is another nail. (By the way, no one in PC believed she was raped as soon as that came out.) The final nail is when she rescues Luke and goes on the run with him. In that time period, they didn't have a soap audience over 18 that believed it was rape because that was the general society belief at that time. The change hadn't occurred yet. By the way, this was part of what was studied in Feminist Literature classes. Not just LnL1's popularity, but the whole popularity of the bodice ripper.

[@jorettadrive9439]

I've been watching this from sussezq's first video and have been loving your comments, and love this one especially. I grew up reading my aunt's bodice rippers and you're right about all that. Nuance which is hard for people to understand in 2022.

[@lisah9709]

Thank you so much for your lengthy and informative explanation! I was only 12 when I watched this originally and did not have as much background in which to frame the story. What you say helps so much in understanding what happened and why they did what they did production wise.

[@gerardfonz]

Incredible post. Thanks!

[@annberringer8467]

Thank you for sharing that. It helps make sense of this was it rape or not debate. I know the writers were under pressure to declare it wasn't in order to move Luke and Laura back together. At 18, I bought it. It wasn't rape in our minds then after seeing this scene, but the whole societal view of rape as being the woman's fault and girls"crying rape" so they would continue to be seen was very prevalent and damaging and this scene perpetuated that. None of the teens and young adults watching this at the time realized this until years later or after experiencing it ourselves.

[@sussezq]

@43cdc You want to talk about the character of Luke Spencer fine.. but not really interested in negative comments about real human beings.

[@calvin667]

Boy, what she said put a different spin on everything, but she made sense. People knew it wasn't rape because of the way they were at the police station.

[@daydreamerinca]

Woah. That was intense.

[@sussezq]

Thanks... your reaction was priceless....and you could say WOW again! (because it REALLY is WOW!)

[@Dizlaz8]

this is one scene I don't like. we all knew it was rape. Just because Laura now wants to say it wasn't did not change how we felt about her and Luke . we were already hooked.

[@coleenmcdonald2649]

This scene would have been better if they had not tried to revisit the rape here. Regardless of whether she was "conflicted" - she said no multiple times and even then no still meant no so even if it was date rape, but to try and say it was never rape - that I am not sure that was really necessary for us to watch their relationship go forward.

[@frankiejones3711]

Thanks so much for posting these videos sussezq! I was to young to watch the original airing of these, but heard about the storyline years later when I became a GH fan. It's so great to finally see the whole story!! Have to say though that I wish they hadn't changed the storyline from rape to seduction. It was a total cop-out and I feel the original story worked much better.

[@karlamazzola8898]

I saw this in real time and all I can say about your comment, or in response to it, is that I did NOT feel fooled or manipulated in ANY way. You are talking about my favorite couple and it was CERTAINLY not a ''cop out''. I feel that you may be watching as a ''researcher'' or something of that ilk. Mostly, all of us on this channel deeply love and care for this ''fictional'' couple very much and I have to say IMO, you clearly are not one of them. This comment also applies to JoJo Leigh, below. With last question....why are either of you watching this channel if you don't love the couple that is the center of it, You both ARE aware of the title of it, no????

[@debrahubbard763]

Those eyes of his are mesmerizing!

[@monicajones5943]

Just thought about it. The tips at Kelly's ain't paying for this. They're having dinner on that ELQ expense account.

[@Janybody17]

I watched this scene for the first time a few days ago & it really stuck with me. I had to watch it again. I can't believe that Luke would let her say, let alone believe that what happened at the disco wasn't rape. I understand that they are trying to make light of it, but to keep pushing it just seems insulting to the fans intelligence. I get Luke was at a low point and under other circumstances it would never have happened, but it did. Fans still adore them as a couple. Isn't that enough?

[@susanmartin313]

I choose to believe Luke knows it was rape, but Laura has pushed that back in her mind so she can still love Luke, she had feelings for him before and needs to protect herself and him from the public consequences, much later she is able to face it as rape and confronts Luke

[@lisah9709]

Although I personally believe Luke the character would NEVER rape Laura, because rape is a violent act not a sexual one...the way they portrayed the rape...it WAS Rape. It drives me crazy how the writers Gaslight the characters and the audience constantly about whether it was rape or not. The fact is that Most SA is by acquaintances. It's not only possible but normal to be SA'd and continue to have a relationship with that person. You might be conflicted and/or you might be scared. This is a reality for tons of women. It's not a fantasy like GH LnL. I personally know so many women who have lived this. It is real and it is common.

[@sussezq]

DEFINITELY... I hate being on message boards where people are clueless about this.... yeah if you don't know how Laura really felt you would have a hard time swallowing the relationship....and that just stinks because it is SOOOOO good!

[@kaiw4673]

I don't think people are are just clueless. She said no and he didn't listen- the literal definition of rape. I do like watching Luke and Laura together but it is problematic and gross to ignore that it was rape. The writers can try and spin it however later but we all saw the scene and hear Laura say no many times.

[@sussezq]

Truth is things change all of the time, there were so many viewers that came on board between the rape and the wedding... MILLIONS.. that they never saw the scene in question (no YT, Hulu,..),so it was easy for them to change it on the fly and lessen the impact of the events. It was done to prop the characters/story. I am way more insulted by current day GH telling me Luke perpetually cheated on Laura. Done to tear the characters and story down.That makes me look way more stupid for loving them!

[@sharonhudson8105]

GH ruined both Luke and his relationship with Laura by having him cheat on her and him always saying that he never wanted to have children. The writing in the early 2000s under Lynn Phelps was crap.

[@suemcgee612]

I was extremely insulted by the old sweatshirt remark. More hurt than anything. It was like they were saying everything we believed in about this beautiful couple for 20 years was a lie.

[@7bear]

Yes that scene was a disgrace :(

[@lisanealy1703]

@@suemcgee612 what's even more of a disgrace than the "old sweatshirt" remark is that Anthony Geary actually said it. I read that he had considerable control over his dialogue.

[@whatifhypotheticallyi1578]

I do agree it is crap the writing in 2000,I can’t watch pass 2001.

[@sonyab1974]

Wow Luke! You brought up the reporters! You act like you understood why she did what she did with that one reporter the day you two came back home. :)

[@ccrooks782]

Ok….Laura just lost me with this crap …”they made love on the disco floor”. WTH!!! Don’t get me wrong, I’m a forever fan on their ❤️ story…BUT he did rape her. No if, and, or but about that fact. Now, did they developed a relationship after that horrible night? Of course. The aftermath - trauma she went through of being scared to be touched etc.. was not bc they made love..it was rape…period!!! I like how the writers (brilliant) turn the horrifying night into a long ongoing love story & gave us many adventures storyline’s but don’t lie or down play the facts. It is what it is. Ok sorry for my rant. I will unpause and continue watching. Lord help me get through this scene 😬

[@sussezq]

@dgprincess23 Yeah.. I was asked for a research project all about it.. and I pretty much said that I would have forgiven any ficitious character anything JUST to see TG and GF work together.

[@Ylremik]

I’m with you. The chemistry and energy between these two is uncanny, whether they are doing drama, romance, or comedy. They are up there with the great screen couples like Hepburn and Tracy.

[@christineadams1284]

Ylremik I agree, AG & GF acting is phenomenal, right up there with great screen couples. Genie Francis is one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen, she is physically beautiful and so is her spirit. Mr. Frakes is one fortunate man. 💜

[@vandouglasjr1613]

Luke was trying to be angry with Laura but she knew how to break him down

[@zekenserena]

THIS is a HOLY SHIT MOMENT!!!! Cause Luke PAYS for this "lie" throughout his years in Port Charles!!! I will NOT give away anything more, but her saying thins is significant to me!!!!

[@monicajones5943]

Are they at THE FLOATING RIB?

[@sussezq]

Yes the original incarnation.

[@Janybody17]

I agree with what you are saying. I have not been a fan for nearly as long as any of you have & I have been taking my time in watching their history. But from what I have seen & do know, the writers do make a mockery of their fans pretty much at every stage. I get that they had to cover their asses and were probably kicking themselves for starting L&L that way. Also I agree that saying Luke had cheated on Laura was also a huge insult to fan and they really aren't doing much now to redeem either.

[@PEGGYHART]

Sad what they did to Rick and Laura's relationship.

[@sussezq]

Travesty!

[@izzatluv]

thanks this is why back then i never was outraged by the rape-i always thought laura was more concerned that she was married and had sex with luke

[@2006bbbb1]

Sort of where I was coming from too. I had seen rape depicted on several soaps before and after this. Even back when Tony Geary played the rapist George Curtis and Y&R, and his victim, Chris Foster was brutally raped, and it was acted in a realistic, ugly way. This time with LnL never felt that way to me emotionally. It just didn't. Just some random ramblings from me.

[@coleenmcdonald2649]

Whatever happened to the "Versaille Room"? It is so much more interesting than the "Metro Court".It seems like Port Charles has lost some of its charm and history.

[@christineadams1284]

Coleen Mcdonald Yes, sadly the "Metro Court" is UN Agenda 2030 lingo. The US/UN wanted to get rid of charm and history to bring in the new millennium. 😢 World Government is now here. 💔

[@annberringer8467]

This scene rationalized away the rape, which helped viewers accept Luke and Laura as a supercouple and was a symptom of societal views on rape at the time but was damaging to young people's psyches in a way the writers never imagined and didnt understand until years later and they tried to rectify that with Elizabeth's rape and Lucky's reaction. That storyline was very confusing to many of us viewers who had bought into the premise of this scene that it was not rape. I know I was confused and couldnt understand until now having finally been able to rewatch these scenes through a different lense Thanks SusQ.

[@gerardfonz]

Yes. This is where we find out the truth. No rape. And it lasted 15 year’s before bogus writers changed it back.

[@ritaeichler2066]

The scene back in the disco, she clearly yells at Luke 'no,no and stop" and he continued so yes it was rape and no matter what she says now that is what it was! being that she was only 18 , it was a criminal act that Luke could have been indicted / convicted for.

[@LynnEllingwood]

She was 17 and that was usually the consensual age. But I agree it was rape. That said, rationalizing it after their relationship has progressed this far would be understandable, especially when she’s trying to reconcile.

[@sussezq]

Yes it was definitely 18. I had just missed it. They made it 19 for a year and then switched it to 21 the year I got to college.

[@jorettadrive9439]

Wow, having seen the rape scene for the first time just a few months ago on this channel, it's shocking to hear the retcon straight from Laura's mouth. But I do understand why they did it.

[@eveboone7342]

Well that explains everything and it makes it more believable. There’s no way a woman could fall in love with her rapist.

[@aggiesbaby]

This is such a poignant scene in Luke and Laura's history....and so important for us "younger" LnL fans who didn't see it in the beginning!

[@CatchupGirl71]

I only rewatched clip tonight as a precursor and catchup to the next scene (p. 29) one of all my all time favs and I think tonight was the first night I heard (or paid attention to the fact) that Laura called the rape making love. Funny how the writers, rewrote that for this period of L&L and turned it back into rape in their later years, when they were planting the seeds for breaking them apart. L&L are truly one of the all time controversial couples ever.

[@popbre3]

I have a few questions. Laura was supposed to be 18 in this time line but she’s in a bar drinking wine. In 1980/81 was the drinking age younger then 21, or is ok because this a TV show? Also when this first aired I was like 12 and was hooked on Luke and Laura and never realized the age difference was like 12 years.

[@annberringer8467]

The drinking age was 18 in 1980, raised to 19 in 1981, then to 21 the year after that. All those who were 18 in 1980 were grandfathered in and could still drink even though we were not 21. I was one, same age as Laura/Genie.

[@taj8231]

OMG nice fancy restaurant evening ambiance let's talk about . . .😢

[@sonyab1974]

Leslie: Rick stop making father noises. ROFL! Laura is his daughter Leslie! :) Of course he is going to make father noises. :)

[@deja_vu..]

As a rape victim myself, I'm always disgusted when Luke refers to it as making love in the sailboat scene & Laura refers to it here the same way. Let's not forget that many rape victims are murdered & will never get to tell their story. And i don't have any problem with how GH depicted the story, just don't insult our intelligence & call it making love. Maybe our sweet, little, teenage Laura likes it extremely rough but I'm not convinced. Granted, she must have been intrigued by something because she hung out with him a lot more after the rape. She certainly had no fear of him. Maybe she liked the dance or the kiss, then things went sideways. It was written that she liked Luke & was attracted to him prior. They were probably alone at the disco many times at closing time. She was tired & probably having "50 Shades of Grey" fantasies about Luke - i would. I like how conflicted Laura was about it for a year because that's what happens in real life. GM could have been decades ahead of time if she could've called it date rape & extreme workplace sexual harassment. Maybe it could've been an incentive to pass laws to protect women. I like that soaps can explore topics like this over a long time, as opposed to movies. Her understanding and forgiveness were great qualities that the world could use today. Luke's redemption story was the Summer on the Run. He was patient and didn't force himself on her, even though everyone could understand the temptation. He let her decide, on her own, without any seduction. There was no need to throw in these random scenes referring to it as making love.

[@cindyharper6292]

Very well said😊

[@sussezq]

You are entitled to your opinion... mine just doesn't typically include thinking the worst of people... saying that the writers made a mockery of their fans is not something I would ever agree with. There are so many factors that come into play... mostly business, the bottom line, and the almighty dollar. I do not believe it was anybody's intention to make the "fans" look stupid. Just circumstances, and pressures from higher up, and show business in general.

[@ionestevens1846]

Well said my friend well said

[@kathylanda681]

Yeah u got that right! It was basic ratings to get more fans. Look bottom line it was a rapewhich turned into a subduction . Because of mostly out of fear on Laura’s side because ofDavid Hamilton. Laura’s fear was so great things became confusing dark and very mix up in both there mines. Love turned into forever. The children came realty came back hit them square in the face. Love sometimes dose some crazy ass life altering chances later on in life. We come to a crossing the road then we have to make better decisions we never thought possible. Love goes into a different direction and you find yourself either alone or with someone you thought would ever happen.you are not alone but still are still breathing from one day to the next. Not happy just excepting life until the end. Thanks Love. Rosie.

[@kathylanda681]

Well sorry Sus but between you and me the higher up don’t know anything about being true blue . The last thing they don’t either is being true to there storyline . They wrote it ...as for money and rating. I say bull, bull all the way those writers lied to us just to keep us watching... well you guys mess up really BIG...and that dear Writers is My Honest Opinion on the truth about The storyline of Luke & his Laura’s true love on GH.. So go ahead and lie all you want you men lead us to the sweet waters of there love. Then throw ice cold water on what was once a brilliant storyline ever written on day time TV. You guys ruin a very happy GH fans like no other. Well there you go right out the GH window. Unhappily yours. Rosie

[@supermom23]

I like Lesley, I want to hang out with her.

[@christineadams1284]

supermom23 I know, Lesley is so cool you want to hang out with her. Lesley was the reason I tuned into GH when I was really young before Laura came along. I did not have a good mother and Lesley represented to me what a mother should be. I loved her and I was very very sad when Denise was let go.

[@nikoviamcclenton5044]

I ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ LUKE SPENCER!!

[@KDL861]

Ugh! Always interruptions!

[@sussezq]

Hi B!!! Yes I know.. they know too... and are trying to forget... it wouldn't be LnL without at least ONE of them in denial! Now in 2013 we have both!!

[@franceslarsen4037]

Rebekah Gore Not exactly. It was rape and we all could see that (remember her shock when Jessie helped her in the emergency room?) but at this point in the show, the writers were doing some fancy backpeddling, trying to "reframe" it as a seduction type thing because of the huge popularity of these two together. Tony and Genie were just reading the lines given them, neither was that comfortable with the "rewrite."

[@sharonjonsy9412]

To quote character Luke, "she was bruised, she was battered and she was destroyed". He said it over and over, a crazed, drunken, broken shell of a man. He pleaded guilty to her, asked her forgiveness over and over. She felt conflicted because she wouldn't desert him at the disco, she wanted to help her friend who said he was going to die, but she said Scotty and I can help you. She forgave him because Laura knew he loved her, she wanted to help this man because she is a caring compassionate young 17 yo.

[@2006bbbb1]

@@sharonjonsy9412 That quote of Luke's is also a rewrite. After the rape, in the hospital, when Jessie talks to Rick on the phone, she specifically tells him that she was not beaten or cut, so decide for yourself the true reality. Each of us do. YMMV

[@niskamelchionne1942]

Not for anything. But now im confused about the rape. Was it or wasn't it had happened

[@SandraWade666]

Lol Rick and Lesley are funny. So overprotective

[@gorerebekah8]

So is she admitting that Luke never raped her? I'm confused.

[@sussezq]

Rebekah Gore Yes they were changing the story. There was no you tube...lots of people joined their story after the rape and never saw the actual scenes.

[@susanmartin313]

@@sussezq the look on Luke's face says different, he knows it was rape,

[@timetochange800]

No home cooking in Port Charles tonight.

[@anniefenter8697]

Why did Rick and Leslie get divorced if all they do is hang out together, work together, eat together, and show up for Laura together???😂😂

[@alexjohnson9630]

People who like to bring up the rape, should watch this part.

[@ionestevens1846]

Still slays me that Laura is only 19, she still sits at a bar and drink wine!

[@sussezq]

Drinking age was 18 in NY then.

[@christineadams1284]

Ione Stevens The drinking age of 21 had not been upped until 1985 for NY. New York's drinking age was raised from 18 to 19 in 1982. Legislature raised the drinking age from 19 to 21, effective December 1, 1985.

[@LynnEllingwood]

18 was legal drinking age.

[@Blaize2001]

Did Alan just say "deuces"?

[@sussezq]

I am too.

[@jimmywaynegirl]

I couldn't agree more, don't know why days continues to put them together, just gross!

[@bakers41]

Kudos.

[@kimw4634]

Yes, you TOTALLY HAVE IT. It was a rewrite. They didn't realize at the time that they had magic in a bottle & they tried to rewrite the rape. It wasn't a great idea, and IMO they should've left it alone & ignored it like they had been doing but it was a TOTAL rewrite & it's the one time I've been disappointed with GM, but what can you do. She made her choice & we all had to live with it.

[@PEGGYHART]

The way they look at each other, were they in love in real life?

[@sussezq]

They are masters of their craft. They are ACTORS....amazing ones.

[@zannemarie6591]

No they weren't which makes their acting all the more amazing. IRL, TG was a lot older than GF. He was very aware of her age and very protective of her, but they had acting chemistry that was out of this world. It was magic. Just pure magic.

[@Janybody17]

As much as I love Rick and Lesley... Go away.

[@sussezq]

LOL!

[@ghfever4445]

Leslie can be so annoying.

[@carolynstewart8465]

Is she old enough to drink?

[@tinabaker70]

yes it was 1981🥂

[@annberringer8467]

Yes. The drinking age was 18 in 1980, canged to 19 in 1981, grandfathering in those who were already 18, I was one, same age as Laura

[@sussezq]

LOL!